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Speaker 1: Seven two weekend breakfast Motoring.

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Speaker 2: Let's see eleven minutes after seven o'clock timepus to talk motoring,

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Speaker 2: and of course the big motoring story is the fuel

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Speaker 2: price hike, and not just that, but what's going to

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Speaker 2: be the impact on the cost of transporting goods but

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Speaker 2: also the cost of transporting people public transport. So if

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Speaker 2: you know people in the transport sector are paying more

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Speaker 2: to do business, they're going to have to try and

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Speaker 2: recoup that cost. And so it is expected that there

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Speaker 2: will be significant public transport fair price increases over the

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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. And maybe you're someone that uses

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Speaker 2: public transport, have you been made away? Has there already

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Speaker 2: been an increase? I know there was an association in

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Speaker 2: seven No two Land, the Joburghforce Law Taxi Association. They

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Speaker 2: confirmed that they will be increasing their prices just after

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Speaker 2: one April. They just had a new increase fair in March,

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Speaker 2: and so they're talking about potentially another one after the

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Speaker 2: first of April. And so it is expected that consumers

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Speaker 2: are going to pay a little bit more for transport.

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Speaker 2: So if you're someone who uses public transport, let us

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Speaker 2: know what that impact has been of the higher fuel

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Speaker 2: no tube. Send us a WhatsApp message on seventy two

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Speaker 2: seven two one seven O tune. Joining us on the

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Speaker 2: line is our resident motime enthusiast, Warren Tucker. Warrent is

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Speaker 2: always great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, and how are you doing. I'm all thank you, Warren?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 1: Did you get your Christian roles this weekend?

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Speaker 2: My?

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Speaker 1: What your Christian roles? Hot cross bunds?

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Speaker 3: I eat hot cross bands all year round.

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Speaker 2: They were like one of my favorite things, and I

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Speaker 2: was so glad it was a couple of years now

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Speaker 2: where supermarkets stopped only selling them in April and you

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Speaker 2: can get them all your us. My face is always

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Speaker 2: few more extra this weekend.

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Speaker 3: That feels correct, definitely.

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Speaker 1: So South Africa, the picture that we've currently got at

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Speaker 1: the moment seems bleak. We've got fuel increases coming, We've

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Speaker 1: got an electricity high coming, so it seems quite pleaque

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Speaker 1: for everybody out there. And you know, government could have

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Speaker 1: mitigated a lot of these things by keeping systems that

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Speaker 1: were running upgrading them, keeping them going. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you've got your own refining capacity. You can cushion the

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Speaker 1: blow to consumers in terms of how you can refine

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Speaker 1: your fuel. Obviously, if you stockpile your fuel, you are

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Speaker 1: able to then sort of you know, manage your costs

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Speaker 1: that you would pass on if you also controlled to

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Speaker 1: a large extent the public transport sector. If you are

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Speaker 1: producing a fuel, you can obviously pass that fuel on

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Speaker 1: at a discount to keep down to obviously mitigate the

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Speaker 1: fact that people will then dig deeper in their pockets

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Speaker 1: to get to work or to get to school, that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. So there's a myriad of options that

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Speaker 1: government had, but unfortunately they've let all these systems you know, disappear,

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Speaker 1: need upgrade, not put the money in, and now unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're sitting with a problem where the chickens

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Speaker 1: have come home to roost. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was reading a report by JP Morgan this week

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Speaker 2: where they kind of try map how the world is

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Speaker 2: going to run out of fuel as the crisis in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East continues, and they said the world is

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Speaker 2: going to run out of fuel in phases.

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Speaker 3: So first we'll be Asia.

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Speaker 2: Asia gets their fuel first from the Middle East, and

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Speaker 2: already we're seeing that impact South Korea. The president was

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Speaker 2: already seeing that impact, and those numbers are lower in Asia.

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Speaker 2: Next on the list is US. Africa is meant to

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Speaker 2: and then Europe is next in early in mid April.

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Speaker 2: And then last on the list is the US, which

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Speaker 3: To deal with those lower fuel stocks.

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Speaker 2: Not only is it more expensive to buy fuel, there's

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Speaker 3: It is the perfect crisis that we're finding ourselves.

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Speaker 1: In, definitely, So unfortunately it's the way JOG organized just

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Speaker 1: be safe. Here's the thing, because we've got diminished defining

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Speaker 1: capacity in South Africa, right, we need to buy a

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Speaker 1: lot more finished product on the open market. Now, you

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Speaker 1: then sit through the situation where you are purchasing fuel, right,

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Speaker 1: and so is everybody else trying to purchase finished product.

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Speaker 1: So then you get into bidding wars to buy product.

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Speaker 1: All a TELSA is we normally give you a billion

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Speaker 1: and you're going to have to pay whatever it is

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Speaker 1: Africa as a whole with all this price calgean with

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Speaker 1: not regulated. They've come out and said, well, this is

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Speaker 1: the increase for the diesel, but they haven't fixed the

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Speaker 1: the next three months and all this crisis is over.

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Speaker 1: Diesel is fixed at this price. You're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: the price calgeen that we currently have. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: look at it this way. Everything transported in South Africa

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Speaker 1: all transported by cruck. Trucks run on diesel, right, and

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Speaker 1: those diesel costs increase when the diesel price goes up,

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Speaker 1: they never come down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Even when the fuel price drops, they never come down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so then I guess we find ourselves in a

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Speaker 2: position where we're going to have a number of direct increases.

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Speaker 2: So the fuel increasing is a direct increase, the cost

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Speaker 2: of paraffin going up, a direct increase. Electricity is up

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Speaker 2: this month are just over eight percent. That's a direct increase.

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Speaker 2: And then as a result of those increases that we've

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Speaker 2: so the cost of transport, the cost of food. I

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Speaker 2: got an email from my security company saying because they

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Speaker 2: because of the increase in fuel, they now need to

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Speaker 2: add I think a twenty one rand fuel levy to

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Speaker 2: which honestly I didn't anticipate that, but my private security

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Speaker 2: a result of the other three costs or the other

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Speaker 2: two costs, So they're going to be at minimum, we're

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Speaker 2: going to see about three, maybe four, maybe five perhaps

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Speaker 2: more in terms of increases just from the disruption in

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Speaker 2: the global fuel supply.

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Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. And like you just mentioned there, so you

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Speaker 1: didn't think that your security company would pass on the

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Speaker 1: just like everything else. So there's a situation there where

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Speaker 1: the increasing fuel. Therefore I've got to pass that price

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Speaker 1: onto you to keep you secure. Okay, Now, if we

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Speaker 1: subsidized by government. So again you have a situation where

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Speaker 1: because there's one department that's ineffective, it's got to knockt

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Speaker 1: effect right on the line. If you take the transport industry,

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Speaker 1: you've got buses, we used to have buses, trains, and

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Speaker 1: the buses are not subsidized as much as they were,

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Speaker 1: So you now need to make a decision of can't

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Speaker 1: I've got the taxis and the buses. This bus might

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Speaker 1: so there if I'm going to go to the taxis.

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Speaker 1: The taxi associations are not subsidized by government. They've got

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Speaker 1: a direct impact. When the fuel goes up, they pay

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Speaker 1: more for fuel immediately. Therefore they passed that on to you.

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Speaker 1: So we sit in this in a country where because

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Speaker 1: government doesn't own a lot of these services that they provide,

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Speaker 1: and these services are privatized, they can't dictate pricing, they

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Speaker 1: can't cushion, they can't do anything. Unfortunately, it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. This is the new price for the fuel,

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Speaker 1: and we've got to go that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a cover story by the sawat and

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Speaker 2: Ela on this week I think it may have been

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Speaker 2: Wednesday or Thursday, where they were talking about now that

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Speaker 2: and they were saying that there's an association and how

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Speaker 2: that's already increased their phase by five rand, and then

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Speaker 2: another increase is expected after the initial after the announcement

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Speaker 2: of the new field prices, which I mean is going

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Speaker 2: to be absolutely devastating. We know that some people, particularly

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Speaker 2: people who are working poor, spend up to seventy percent

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Speaker 2: of their income and transport already. And so if transports,

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Speaker 2: the cost of commuting is going up, that means you

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Speaker 2: are then spending what little money you have, You're spending

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Speaker 2: even more on transport.

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Speaker 3: There's less for food, but then food is also going up.

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Speaker 2: It is catastrophic the thing that's about to happen, particularly

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Speaker 2: to push South Africans who just simply do not have

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Speaker 2: the cushion.

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Speaker 3: The cushion doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: There isn't that buffer between them and these increases.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so you see, there's got to be some learning

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Speaker 1: that comes out of all of this, all right, And

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Speaker 1: one thing that I think the ministers and the president

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Speaker 1: who just think along and hard about is South Africa

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Speaker 1: as a country needs to be self sufficient in the

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's about. It comes back to implementation and willingness to

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Speaker 2: Larren, as always, it's a great pleasure having on the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time, Thank you for

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Speaker 2: having me. That's our resident motoring enthusiast Ryren Tucker taking

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