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Speaker 2: Right, it's time to open the lines for your motoring

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Speaker 2: six seven is the address to use if you would

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Speaker 2: like to post a motoring question to Ernest Page from

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Speaker 2: change Cars, dot Co, dot z and all things motoring.

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Speaker 2: He is standing by to answer those questions for you.

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Speaker 1: Ernest, always great to have you with us, Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Oh fantastic to be a papa, and lots to talk about.

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Speaker 3: And I've got quite a bit, as he says it

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Speaker 3: up done and something personal that I'd like to touch on

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I know that a lot of that research

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Speaker 2: relates to some of the listener questions and also to

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Speaker 2: the bigger issue you want to start with today, which

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Speaker 2: is looking at the Chinese brands. But do you want

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Speaker 2: to first tell us about the personal thing you look

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Speaker 2: to you be referenced.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've just signed up as an athlete. But Tiza,

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Speaker 3: and she's a seventy year older drivers from Janet Bird.

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Speaker 3: She makes here this weekend past and we managed to

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Speaker 3: qualify poll at the opening round of the Nationals this

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Speaker 3: weekend in the Theota Kazouge Geo Cup. So very very

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Speaker 3: proud coach, but also just a great performance from her

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Speaker 3: and looking forward to working with her for the rest

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Speaker 2: Seventeen years old, that's amazing, Ernest. Is that a typical

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Speaker 2: age to be starting to climb their ranks in motorsports.

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Speaker 2: I know some of them start in karting very very early,

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Speaker 2: but I mean to me, that sounds extraordinarily young to

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Speaker 3: It is young. So she started off with the Theota

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Speaker 3: Parting Academy, so she is from a carting background, and

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Speaker 3: Toota has the system where you sort of slowly but

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Speaker 3: surely make you wayne progress and she's now progressed through

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Speaker 3: to the big cause. And yeah, it's a very strange

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Speaker 3: scene because she's quite small in this giant cargoing at

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Speaker 3: two hundred ks an hour. I myself, my art is

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Speaker 3: beating a little very much, yes, but clearly she is

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh exciting, So just give us that name again

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Speaker 2: that we need to keep an eye on. But okay,

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Speaker 2: there's a name to watch going forward everybody you have

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Speaker 2: been tipped off early. Well, congratulations Ernest, huge achievement and

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Speaker 2: please pass on our best wishes to her now. She

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Speaker 2: was driving not a Chinese brand, but we do want

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Speaker 2: to start with a focus on Chinese brands today. We

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Speaker 2: get so many questions around them, Earnest, the pricing is

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Speaker 2: what makes them so incredibly attractive. Tobias who are feeling

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Speaker 2: the pinch right.

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Speaker 3: Now, Yes, exactly, and when we're doing more and more

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Speaker 3: comparisons now and by the way, that I should have

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Speaker 3: is up with Theyota versus versus VW is up. We

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Speaker 3: were the next one, which is a used Toyota Gerola,

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Speaker 3: always get asked, should I get a brand new insert

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Speaker 3: like BW A theater And it's getting so much better.

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago you asked me about it

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Speaker 3: And this is what I think a lot of these

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Speaker 3: And in the modern world, a car doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I mean that's I remember you using that

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Speaker 2: what most of us are looking for is a perfectly

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and even me as a fine puvious, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Chinese cars give you those extra features that don't come

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the Amota C seven perfectly average, and it

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Speaker 2: So let me go to an Emoda question that has

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Speaker 2: a GWM. And if anybody else has a question around

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Speaker 2: Chinese brands in particular, you're very welcome to send them through.

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Speaker 2: You also can send anything else, by the way, except

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Speaker 2: asking for evaluation of a vehicle. Anything else we're happy

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Speaker 2: to tackle. Now, this is an interesting comment from CC

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Speaker 2: on the Emoda. CC's observation is that the dash changes

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Speaker 2: And then another comment of a strange incident where opened

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Speaker 2: another Emoda in the parking lot got the fright of

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Speaker 1: Now I've had that experience.

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Speaker 2: If you drive a plane white on a Jazz like

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Speaker 1: And I've made that mistake myself several times. But of

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Speaker 2: It wasn't open to to open in that way, which

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Speaker 3: Exactly it shouldn't surely it shouldn't be unlocked or be

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Speaker 2: You've just answered absolutely word perfectly m's question about whether

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean point well taken. So if you want

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Speaker 2: then it's perfectly good. But Gareth, if you are going

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Speaker 2: it's not the vehicle to consider. But thank you for

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Speaker 1: Let's just try and get a field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. If I may not just the Emoda, but any

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Speaker 3: of the Chinese manufacturers, there are heavily loads of electronics

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Speaker 3: because even Landrover is not immune to having electronic bugs

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Speaker 1: Ernest.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, I have learned about a whole bunch of new

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Speaker 2: brands I've never heard of today, and I appreciate, as

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Speaker 2: do many of our listeners, the input on the ones

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Speaker 2: roads in South Africa. We're going to park the Chinese

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Speaker 2: Car Conversation there and next week we'll be back with

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Speaker 2: some of the other brand questions that came through to

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Speaker 2: to Michael with your Persia and Chavorn asking for advice

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Speaker 2: on replacement for your Honda. We will pass those questions

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Speaker 2: on too, Ernest to research the answers for you and

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Speaker 2: feedback to you next week Wednesday. Ernest, you please drive

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Speaker 2: safely until then.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. Thanks so much for the wonderful chat.

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Speaker 1: Good nice to have you with us.

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Speaker 2: As always, Ernest page of Change Cars, dot Co, dot

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