WEBVTT - Car Talk with Ernest Page: VW T-Cross

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<v Speaker 1>Join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Join the conversation you're.

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<v Speaker 1>With Kate Talk the conversation turns out to All Things Motoring.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the name of the TV show hosted by Ernest

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<v Speaker 1>Page on Ignition TV. Here is also, of course a

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<v Speaker 1>representative of Change Cars dot co dotza, and he's standing

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<v Speaker 1>by to talk to us about what he's been driving,

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<v Speaker 1>but more importantly to answer your questions about what you

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<v Speaker 1>are or could be driving. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask a question today, remember you can phone in on

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<v Speaker 1>two one four four six O five sixty seven. You

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<v Speaker 1>can also send us a WhatsApp to seven two five

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<v Speaker 1>six seven one five six seven. Good to have you

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<v Speaker 1>back with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Ernest, fantastic to be by Potmanalaba. You said that more importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about what the listeners want to drive, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>why my job exists. It's not about me driving the cause,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about getting people into the car that they want

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<v Speaker 2>to get into and figuring out if that's that I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got absolutely, and thank you in advance for all the

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<v Speaker 1>help you give our listeners and making those decisions. We do, though,

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<v Speaker 1>like to sort of live vicariously through you and your

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<v Speaker 1>driving a little bit each week, So tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>you've been driving this week.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment, I've got the M two three five BMW,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is one of those situations where I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>walking my opinion back let me start there. But what

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing is I'm realizing that I might need

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<v Speaker 2>to amend my opinion on this car. So I've driven

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<v Speaker 2>the M one three five mostly, and then i spent

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of time with A two three five

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago. And BMW's just launched this

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<v Speaker 2>car now and it's gotten interesting reviews worldwide. Basically, my

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<v Speaker 2>conclusion and the conclusion of many others, was that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a traditional BMW. It doesn't feel like a traditional BMW,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't drive like a traditional BMW. It's not three

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<v Speaker 2>will drive. It's actually based on a front wheel drive platform,

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<v Speaker 2>and the tops pick models, the one three fives, they

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<v Speaker 2>come with four wheel drive. But the reason for that

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<v Speaker 2>is because it's technically it's based on the Mini. It's

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<v Speaker 2>based on the Mini chassis. It's based on because MENI

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<v Speaker 2>and BMW. Basically it's the Mini's owned by BMW, so

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<v Speaker 2>they get access to all the technology. So you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a bat for the Toppix model, about nine h

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty thousand for the Topsic model, which is again

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<v Speaker 2>it's always a lot of money these days. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I always exclaim who buys these cars, but upon close

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<v Speaker 2>inspect the price is very competitive when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>its nearest competitive which is the gulf Ar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll parked the car in the driver the other

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<v Speaker 2>day and while I've literally got a slight look of

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<v Speaker 2>disdain on my face, my neighbor comes throwing over and

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<v Speaker 2>he's this young guy, you know, cool like he's twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>just like gets the world and it gets what's cool,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, I love this car. So I told him, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to go for a spin. And we chat briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think where this car plays is that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thirty young, thirty audio old to someone that's making

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<v Speaker 2>decent amounts of money once and is deciding between a

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<v Speaker 2>golf R and a BMW, but maybe wants to go

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<v Speaker 2>for a slightly more mature option, and that's where the

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<v Speaker 2>BMW fits in. So, whether the BMW sells a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these cars or not, it's a good way for

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<v Speaker 2>strategy wise. It seems like it's a good way for

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<v Speaker 2>them to get more people into that specific BMW and

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<v Speaker 2>potentially then get them into air quotes the real BMW's

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<v Speaker 2>later on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so your labor loved it, even if you were

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<v Speaker 1>on the fence a little bit. That's a very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>comment when you say they have to be earning decent money.

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<v Speaker 1>Just how much decent money does want earn to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for this car?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So letty, I need to work at the installments

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<v Speaker 2>on that one. But it's basically a million, million Ran.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're looking at a twenty thousand rand installment basically

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<v Speaker 2>thereabout because it's a million RAN car effectively, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at about I think about twenty k all

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<v Speaker 2>in with insurance, et cetera, et cetera, ettech. So, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>some people might get this car as a company car.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people might get this car on a lease of a

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<v Speaker 2>BMW does have options for financing, which is I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say competitive. It makes the installment price a lot lower.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have those numbers in front of me right now,

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<v Speaker 2>but they do make the installment prices a lot, a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot lower. However, I wouldn't necessarily recommend that pricing

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<v Speaker 2>structure unless you're going to be doing a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>of mileage which is appropriate for that, or it's a

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<v Speaker 2>company car and the company's paying a set amount every

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<v Speaker 2>month and you want to get into the best possible

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<v Speaker 2>car that you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, thanks for that. Okay. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>BMW M two three five. I believe you've also been

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<v Speaker 1>playing with the new VWT Cross range.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, BWT Cross has been updated. It was a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months ago and they've launched a new entry level

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<v Speaker 2>model for three hundred and ninety nine thousand. I'm a colleague,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Williams. You went to the event to go check

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<v Speaker 2>out what was happening and the T Cross line. The

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<v Speaker 2>pricing has remained very competitive even when they updated the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you can still get into the seventy kilowat

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<v Speaker 2>manual version for just their hair under four hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three hundred ninety nine thousand, and the top peck

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<v Speaker 2>one goes for five hundred and forty three that's the

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five killer what now. VW has been very clever

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<v Speaker 2>about this because they know that this is their entry

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<v Speaker 2>level suv and they've got lots and lots of competition

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<v Speaker 2>in the space. So you do, however, get a manual

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<v Speaker 2>gearbox with this, but you also get decent fuel consumption

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<v Speaker 2>under under six liters one hundred claim the real world

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<v Speaker 2>figures is about six point five. It's got Apple corplay

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<v Speaker 2>and auto USB ports, it's got a nice entertainment system

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen inch will central locking, child locks, et cetera. So

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<v Speaker 2>the basic good stuff is all in there. But then

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the competition, of course, you look

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<v Speaker 2>at something like the Cherry t Go four Pro, which

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<v Speaker 2>maxes out at three hundred and eighty six thousand, which

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<v Speaker 2>is less than the entry level, and then the Renokai

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<v Speaker 2>Go one lead to Turbot, which I think it's not

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<v Speaker 2>premium enough, that's at three hundred and twenty nine, and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course the regular Haval Jullian one point five

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<v Speaker 2>T top spick for just thirty thousand more, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a fully loaded Haval Jullian. So a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, the VWT Cross would have been the sensible choice,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it still is the sensible choice if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not willing to risk it with one of the

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<v Speaker 2>with a Valve or Cherry, which is not to say

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<v Speaker 2>it is a risk I just think, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>still at that point where there are still some questions

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<v Speaker 2>being asked, and I'm starting to get some feedback on

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<v Speaker 2>parts availability, with certain parts not being as easily obtainable.

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<v Speaker 2>But I need to get more concrete evidence on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did a review on a Handai. The other

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<v Speaker 2>had had Tucson, and someone I know actually bought that car,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can maybe get your input on this. Hyundai

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<v Speaker 2>went from being the Korean Handa was the old Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>cause basically just like before that the Japanese cause with

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<v Speaker 2>the turn from the East kind of thing. But now

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<v Speaker 2>Honda has become a trusted brand. And even though the

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<v Speaker 2>pricing on that car is a little bit high, the

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<v Speaker 2>person that I'm usedtill got it because they trusted the brand.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hear you. I've never driven one myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say that upfront, but I think you're right

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<v Speaker 1>that the perception of the brand has sort of settled

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<v Speaker 1>and solidified, and it's a very different perception today than

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a couple of years ago. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an unknown factor. People were nervous about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of you were nervous, a little nervous about

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<v Speaker 1>parts availability and servicing quality and all of that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going forward, and reliability and longevity. I think it's now

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<v Speaker 1>had sufficient longevity that we could trust trust in the

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<v Speaker 1>brand more. And you know, one hopes that the same

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<v Speaker 1>will apply in five or six years time to the

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<v Speaker 1>brands that right now we're feeling a little bit iffy about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, and we at that we get into that

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<v Speaker 2>crossover point now where GWM has been in the country

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<v Speaker 2>for many, many years, and I think they are trusted brand.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had some incidents, as I mentioned before, with people

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<v Speaker 2>that own GW and BUCkies with the white Africans gentlemen

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<v Speaker 2>said to me in a very strong Africans accent, it

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<v Speaker 2>loved it. So you love these GW and Bucky. So

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<v Speaker 2>that is starting to happen. But the sensible choice is

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<v Speaker 2>still the VW T Crass starting at three ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>for the manual version.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you so much for that feedback. Ernest page

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<v Speaker 1>Dandy by now to take your calls and questions O

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<v Speaker 1>one five six seven. Diane's call was more consumer than motoring,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it relates to a cart. So Diane, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to call you back during Consumer Talk and Tyrone

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<v Speaker 1>just confirming receipt of your question for Wendy. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to speak to Ernest, please send your question

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<v Speaker 1>through right now to O seven two five six seven

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<v Speaker 1>one five six seven. Let's take a question that came

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<v Speaker 1>in last week that we didn't get a chance to answer,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was from Jackie who would like to know

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion on the Proton one point five versus a

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<v Speaker 1>t Go four.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Proton one point five is the one point

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<v Speaker 2>five turbo three cylinder engine and the Ti Go four

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<v Speaker 2>is the one point five liter turbo four cylinder. Both

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<v Speaker 2>of them make similar power, similar talk. But the Proton

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<v Speaker 2>has got a seven speed DCT gearbox, which means that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a conventional deal clutch gearbox versus the CBT and

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<v Speaker 2>the Cherry Ti Go four, which not my favorite tub

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<v Speaker 2>of gearbox, especially when you've got to call it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of power. Then you start noticing the CBT,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the talk and the power in the

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<v Speaker 2>Cherry Tig. It's quite up there. The Proton will and

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<v Speaker 2>should use less fuel than the Cherry Tig, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily believe the claims of both of these manufacturers,

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<v Speaker 2>so it would be something that you'd have to get

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<v Speaker 2>real bold figures for. Unfortunately, I don't have any of

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<v Speaker 2>those deal Bolt figures at the moment. Both of them

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<v Speaker 2>have warranties of about five years, but the Cherry Tig's

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<v Speaker 2>GO one hundred and fifty thousand kilometer warranty, and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course there's that ten year one million k kilometer

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<v Speaker 2>one million kilometer warranty on the engine, which that's gimmick key.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to keep the car for a million ks,

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<v Speaker 2>then you've got a warranty. The engine vituals service plan

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<v Speaker 2>on the Proton is better than the on the Cherry Tig.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me. The Proton does feel more premium inside with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more soft touch materials, but the ti Go,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, especially the elite version tops Pick one, is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be much much higher spect and it's also

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<v Speaker 2>both be causse f ten point twenty five touch cream displays,

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<v Speaker 2>where the Tig has a seven inch digital cluster and

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<v Speaker 2>leave the seats so the t GO is quite a

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<v Speaker 2>substantial amount less than the proton. So if money is

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<v Speaker 2>the primary consideration, then yes, you're looking at about a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five thousand difference and you're paying that premium on

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<v Speaker 2>the proton. I think protons still, They've been here before,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are still. Was he trying getting a foothold

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<v Speaker 2>in South Africa? I would just say my personal recommendation,

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably go for the TIG on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Jackie. I hope you were listening

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that feedback and thanks for the help on

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Ernest. Okay, let's see we've got a WhatsApp, Blanche.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid we can't assist with valuations live on air,

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<v Speaker 1>but so I would advise you to rather go and

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<v Speaker 1>just do some research on sites like change cars, dot co,

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<v Speaker 1>dotja to get an idea of the comparative value of

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle that you are discussing. So let's rather move

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<v Speaker 1>on to Dana. Dana would like your thoughts on the

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<v Speaker 1>Persia two thousand and eight GT.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and eight GT. I spent some time with

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<v Speaker 2>that car a while ago, and she's correcting saying that

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<v Speaker 2>I used to call it the two double eight that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually a two thousand and a GT. It's got the

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<v Speaker 2>one point two liters three cylinder engine. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>later model now, so I haven't driven this car in

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<v Speaker 2>such a long time, and there are various iterations, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm want to walk away with this one

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<v Speaker 2>and do some research. I am working with a client

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<v Speaker 2>now that actually sells these cars as well, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can get some inside info and maybe even get some

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<v Speaker 2>pricing for us, so I can get more info, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll come back to us next week with the

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<v Speaker 2>detailed research on the future, because I haven't given one

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<v Speaker 2>of these in ages.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you so much for that, So Dana, please

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're listening next week for feedback on that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Amanda has a follow up to one of your earlier comments.

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<v Speaker 1>She is interested in how the Kia Sonnet models compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cherry and the Toyota Cross that you've been discussing.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, the Ka Sonnet dependable, solid care. I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like what my opinion is that it's generally underspect.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got a decent sized boot of my three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty five liters eighty five Killer Watts talkers, the

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty four Newtons, most of them have

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<v Speaker 2>CVT gearboxes. If you're not going for the manual, it

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<v Speaker 2>starts at two ninety nine, it ends off at about

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred and eighty. The sensible choice, for sure, the

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<v Speaker 2>sensible choice. Easy to drive, easy to live with. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>works good, right, quality, sometimes a little bit firm. The

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<v Speaker 2>visibility of the backs not the best in class, but

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<v Speaker 2>again it's the same choice for me. Now. The main

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<v Speaker 2>and we're getting a lot of these questions, the main

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<v Speaker 2>consideration is how much spec do you want versus the

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<v Speaker 2>sensible choice. That is the key a sonnet which will

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not be as well inspect. But again, the manufacturers

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<v Speaker 2>of being now being forced to play in the space

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<v Speaker 2>where there are tons and tons of features, even on

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<v Speaker 2>an entry level car. So that three hundred thousand, four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand grand space is the most difficult space to play. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're shopping in this, well, not difficult, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>got the most options. For me, it's difficult because I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to come up with good alternatives.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks for that, Amanda. I hope there's some food

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<v Speaker 1>for thought in there. Okay, I'm trying to digest a

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<v Speaker 1>question from Dean. Let's come through with I think perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>the spelling or autocorrectors not quite said what Dean was

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<v Speaker 1>precisely meaning. But I think I'm getting the gist of

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<v Speaker 1>it that Dean is wondering when there is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a shape update for the Suzuki Jimney three door.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm making head or tail of a somewhat confusing question,

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<v Speaker 1>any comments on on on the on the styling of

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<v Speaker 1>the Suzuki Jimney.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard anything about the chimney being facelifted. There's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking online now, there doesn't seem to be any

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<v Speaker 2>facelift discussions. There's just HD autel says there's I've just

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<v Speaker 2>found an article on HD Auto desk. You can try

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<v Speaker 2>them out, and they're talking about a features update which

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<v Speaker 2>is ads TIC update, which means that you basically have

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<v Speaker 2>drivers support systems for traffic recognition, break support, automatic braking

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that. But it does seem like the

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<v Speaker 2>design is going to stay. I changed it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think Suzuki knows that they're onto something with head Cliff

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<v Speaker 2>and Jimney. Everybody loves the chimney that has one and

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<v Speaker 2>to change the look on that car. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>would be a risk. I think it should it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's still fresh face. Let's do that way. It

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<v Speaker 2>still looks cool and I think it will continue to

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<v Speaker 2>look cool for quite a while longer. So don't missed

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<v Speaker 2>with something that's a good sort of recipe. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to keep that card looking like at for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. There's in my mind, there's no in my circle,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no mention of an update on the looks on that.

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<v Speaker 1>If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And having said that, but if you do want to

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<v Speaker 2>spruce up your chimney, there are so many off the

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<v Speaker 2>market options available. But yeah, you can get lift kits,

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<v Speaker 2>you get big wheels, you can get light covers, you

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<v Speaker 2>can get through fras, so there's a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 2>to make your jymney look cool and individual so Zuki

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<v Speaker 2>is very much about individualization. They do sell some parts

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in house, but there are also many companies in

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<v Speaker 2>South Africa that do upgraded parts for the Suzuki jymney.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so lots and lots of space to play with

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<v Speaker 1>what you've already got. If you're getting bored with the look.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're still very cute and fresh. As you say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can squeeze in one more. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is from Fran who is interested in the new golf

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<v Speaker 1>and would like to know what other options should she

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<v Speaker 1>be considering an the same class size and price capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the golf goes, I've spoken to a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of people, and I haven't driven it myself yet. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>I was invited the Lords but couldn't make it, and

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<v Speaker 2>the colleague of mine went through and it is still

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<v Speaker 2>the good old fashioned, dependable VW. You know exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get. It's the same pleasant polo esque

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<v Speaker 2>driving experience with extra space, but it's just not as

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<v Speaker 2>relevant as it used to be, simply because the market

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<v Speaker 2>is now looking at SUVs. But if you set on

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<v Speaker 2>getting something like this, the starting price is five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eighty thousand for the one point four life and

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<v Speaker 2>goes up to a million round or so. But for

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<v Speaker 2>the call we spoke about early on, which is the Golf,

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<v Speaker 2>are other cass to consider would be the Honda Civic,

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<v Speaker 2>a much better all rounder. Possibly it's a lot more refined. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit more modern looking, a bit larger

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<v Speaker 2>than the Golf. Other option is the Mass the three

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best looking cause in the segment, very

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<v Speaker 2>underrated all Masters, or just blanket underrated Pugo three h

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<v Speaker 2>eight if you want something of a bit of French flair,

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<v Speaker 2>that's also an option starting at four eighty. But notice

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<v Speaker 2>that these these cars will start at one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and less than the Golf. And then the Toota Corolla

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<v Speaker 2>Hatch bulletproof, Toota Corolla super efficient, well equipped, and also

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<v Speaker 2>there's a hybrid version as well, which I think might

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<v Speaker 2>be the pick of the bunch. And if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of extra budget, then maybe look at something

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<v Speaker 2>like the used Audi A three.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Okay, fran there are lots of options for you

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<v Speaker 1>to consider there. Thank you. I'm intrigued by what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said about Mazda's being so underrated, Ernest. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they are? Is there is there history here

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<v Speaker 1>of problems in the past that is still lurking in

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<v Speaker 1>people's memory.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it's got to do with

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<v Speaker 2>marketing and the engine range. Firstly, let's start with the

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<v Speaker 2>marketing side of things. They I believe you do need

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<v Speaker 2>a Halo car on your fleet. They've gotten the rid

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<v Speaker 2>of their Halo car, which is the NX five. They've

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<v Speaker 2>now only got the hard top hotel version, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not great, So you don't have that enthusiast sort of

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<v Speaker 2>sub section of the market that's always mumbling about. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>Masdas are and then they're pricing it's pretty decent their

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<v Speaker 2>cause of well inspect, but the engines have let them

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<v Speaker 2>down in the past. They've now started to bring in

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<v Speaker 2>bigger engines, but I think MASDA might need to look

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<v Speaker 2>at turbo charging down the line. But once you inside

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<v Speaker 2>the car and you drive the car, and you experience

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<v Speaker 2>a car, it's chic, it's stylish, it's not overly spect,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's well inspect and I just think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good driving experience for someone that's thinking maybe something a

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<v Speaker 2>little different.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks so much for the explanation. So we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it there for today. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to just say a reminder, if you've got a particularly

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<v Speaker 1>complex question, or if you are wanting a comparison of

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<v Speaker 1>multiple vehicles and competitors within a class, can I encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you please to feel free to send that through in

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<v Speaker 1>advance that we can brief Earnest to research it for

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<v Speaker 1>you and give you same week feedback. You're very welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to do that any time of the week. Just pop

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<v Speaker 1>through an email to me on peperh at cape talk

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<v Speaker 1>dot com co dot Sday and we'll brief Ernest to

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<v Speaker 1>research for the following Wednesday so that you can get

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<v Speaker 1>the quickest possible feedback. Danis, So we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>that for you for next week feedback on your question

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<v Speaker 1>around the perso. But I just wanted to remind everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that you very welcome to not wait until Wednesday and

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<v Speaker 1>send your questions in advance. Ernest. We always appreciate the

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<v Speaker 1>research you do for our listeners, and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>hard work behind the wheel, the terrible job of testing

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<v Speaker 1>all these cars. I know you hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tough line, but someone's going to do it. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a cheeky answer from me, but I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 2>cheeky today. Thanks so much for everything. Appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, and please drive safe. Feeds. We'll reach out

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<v Speaker 1>again next week Wednesday. Ernest Page of Change Cars dot

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<v Speaker 1>Co dot Surday