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Speaker 1: Car Talk with Melinda Ferguson on Weekend Breakfast with Sarah

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Speaker 1: Jane mcquali King.

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Speaker 2: The time is eight point thirty five.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Weekend Breakfast with Me, Sarah Jane

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Speaker 1: Macaui La King looking forward to what is still to

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Speaker 1: come on the show, which includes Melinda Ferguson of course,

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Speaker 1: with car Talk next, and then in the final hour

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Speaker 1: of the show, we're going to be chatting to Brent

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Speaker 1: Linda Key of Good Things Guy, Good Things Guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brent Linda.

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Speaker 2: Key, He's always great to have on.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to be joined in studio by actor, director,

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Speaker 1: content creator, hilarious person Glenn Biderman Pam and then we've

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Speaker 1: got music taking us to the end of the show

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Speaker 1: by Canadian singer songwriter Billy Ruful. But first this, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this week's car, well not car necessarily,

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Speaker 1: but Bucky because.

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Speaker 2: It is a first for Kia.

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Speaker 3: Melinda, Hello, I'm so excited as well, and I'm happy

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Speaker 3: we're starting like early today. And yeah, I mean this

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Speaker 3: is probably and I can't think of another car where

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Speaker 3: there's been more of a kind of anticipation much to weighted.

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Speaker 3: Oh my word, look at the pictures.

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Speaker 4: What is that?

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Speaker 3: People have been going mental since twenty twenty four when

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Speaker 3: they revealed the name the Kia Tasman Tasman, and then

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Speaker 3: it had its world premiere in October twenty four in Jedda.

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Speaker 3: Then August twenty five it launched in the Middle East,

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Speaker 3: and then Australia got it. And South Africa is very

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Speaker 3: close to being in like the top countries in the

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Speaker 3: world to the first let's say top countries, first countries,

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Speaker 3: and I think we are a top country by the way.

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Speaker 3: I love it South Africa, Yeah, love it. And so

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Speaker 3: this Kia Tasman, we've all been waiting and fin finally

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Speaker 3: Kia South Africa sent invites and apparently not one person

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Speaker 3: said no, none of us like always media, sorry I

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Speaker 3: can't go, Sorry, I can't go. Everyone said yes, where

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Speaker 3: did you go?

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Speaker 4: Oh my word?

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Speaker 3: So we met in like sort of on the water

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Speaker 3: on the on the seafront waterfront in a hotel and

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Speaker 3: then we drove off towards the west coast, Lambert's Bay,

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Speaker 3: but we went through the Cedarburg and we went and

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Speaker 3: had a lunch in a cave. I couldn't believe they

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Speaker 3: managed to get like caterers to drive tables and tables

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Speaker 3: of lovely food into a cave and we all sat

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Speaker 3: there and ate lunch, looking at our beautiful, well beautiful tasmans.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of it?

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Speaker 2: I want one.

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Speaker 1: I am mildly obsessed with this. Listen, listen, and I

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Speaker 1: know that's I don't. I know nothing about it. And

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Speaker 1: this is purely going on the on on on looks.

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Speaker 1: But can I tell you I have been chatting with

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Speaker 1: somebody about maybe and I probably won't but change if

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Speaker 1: I was going to change up my car.

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Speaker 2: I love my car. I've got a big old seven

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Speaker 2: seater to Santa Fe.

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Speaker 1: It's fantastic for what I need it for the kids

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Speaker 1: and dog occasionally jumps in the back and all this

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Speaker 1: sort of jazz. Right, But I I you've actually got

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Speaker 1: me into BUCkies. It's Hugh Melinda Ferguson. You've done it.

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Speaker 1: So whenever you do buck my little ears prick up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But I'm still I'm still that person.

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Speaker 1: I'm still the person that I want a car that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit quirky. My car at the moment is

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Speaker 1: not quirky. It's just very utilitarian. It's why I loved

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Speaker 1: my you know, I had a mini when I lived

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Speaker 1: in by I had, you know, my little fee at

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Speaker 1: five hundred. It's got a bit of something, a bit

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Speaker 1: of character, a bit of and this sits in that beauty.

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Speaker 1: It looks like a Tonka truck.

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Speaker 4: Like it is like a Tonka. I said, we've gone

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Speaker 4: to Noddy's toilet. I love it. It's like Lego, It's

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Speaker 4: like anime.

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Speaker 3: It's like big fat panda beg, a big fat panda

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Speaker 3: bear who's just like I mean, I I'm a say.

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Speaker 3: When I saw it in the photo, I didn't like it.

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Speaker 3: When I saw pictures interesting, I well, I found it interesting,

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Speaker 3: and I thought I'm dying to see it in the flesh.

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Speaker 3: When I finally came face to face this huge truck,

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Speaker 3: I must say, I stepped back and I said, what

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Speaker 4: I did? I didn't say, ha, what is this?

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Speaker 3: I was quite like thrown to be honest, okay, And

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Speaker 3: as I got up close and personal with my tasman,

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Speaker 3: I landed up literally trying to hag its about bonnet

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Speaker 3: and say bye bye Panda by Panda.

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Speaker 4: Because it is like a major bit.

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Speaker 3: It's got a very eastern when it's south Korean brand,

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Speaker 3: but I had that Japanese feel to it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've got that kind of look. Wherever we went, everyone

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Speaker 3: stopped and I have to just.

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Speaker 4: Tell you a little story.

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Speaker 3: We stopped off in Peckettberg at this big sort of

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Speaker 3: fuel station. Luckily we didn't have to put it was

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Speaker 3: a diesel. By the way, it is a diesel. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk engine just now. But these two guys got out

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Speaker 3: of a Highlux and they walked around and me and

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Speaker 3: my partner were standing at our Tasman and they said,

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Speaker 3: can we take a look like these two nice Afrikaans gies. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they got in the car, they started looking at the tech.

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Speaker 3: They got back into their Highluxes and they looked at

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Speaker 3: each other and said, hey, maybe it's time for a change. Huh,

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Speaker 3: that would be a good ad.

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Speaker 4: Hey great, and if you're allowed to do that.

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Speaker 3: But I mean Highlax is the big fat brand in

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Speaker 3: South Africa. I mean Tonyota Highluxes. Every month we go

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Speaker 3: into the numbers and we're like, how the hell can

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Speaker 3: they just keep selling these BUCkies, Ford Ranger, Issuzi d Max,

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Speaker 3: big rivals. These Kia is coming in as the absolute outsider,

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Speaker 3: but it's got the jazz.

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Speaker 1: Just give us a bit of background in terms of

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Speaker 1: what's what's taken so long?

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Speaker 4: What this is?

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Speaker 1: This is Kia's first Bucky. Where where has this come from?

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Speaker 1: How long has it been in the making?

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Speaker 2: What is that thought? What is Kia saying about this?

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean Kia, I don't know if you realize,

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Speaker 3: but they've got huge experience in the military, in military vehicles.

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Speaker 3: They have been making military vehicles for years, so they've

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Speaker 3: been put so they put so much testing into this

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Speaker 3: Tasman it took a long time for them to do

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Speaker 3: all their they did. They went into the Australian outback

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Speaker 3: obviously Tasman Tasmania the name is a derivative of Tasmania.

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Speaker 3: It was really tested in that area. Then they took

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Speaker 3: it to the Middle East, and I think they did

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Speaker 3: such thorough work that it just you know, they're unveiled

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and it's taken for us two years

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Speaker 3: to actually get it. But I do think that they've

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Speaker 3: been very circumspect. They are very aware they're coming in

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Speaker 3: to a very a very brand loyal market.

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Speaker 1: Right, But yeah, that that that brand loyalty might do

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Speaker 1: them a favor in terms of people like me who

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Speaker 1: I have no brand loyalty when you know, to anything really,

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Speaker 1: but in terms of a Bucky space, but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: am very seriously somebody who would wh would consider getting

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Speaker 1: a Bucky And this speaks to me, I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 1: And I would imagine, although I'm not sure, this might

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Speaker 1: be friendier on the pocket, but we'll talk about price

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Speaker 1: in a second. So so the fact is, there could be.

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Speaker 4: There could be I was.

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Speaker 1: Going to say conversion therapy, That's not what I mean,

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Speaker 1: but there could be.

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Speaker 4: Some there could be.

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Speaker 1: There is the opportunity to to bring non Bucky heads

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Speaker 1: into the Bucky space with this, I think, because we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with a double cabal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what it really looks like in

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Speaker 3: the flesh. You know those old hummers? Remember the hammer?

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Speaker 2: Yes, somebody the other day what happened to all the hummers?

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Speaker 3: It's got like a kind of cross between a hammer

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Speaker 3: look and then there other kind of lego look, lego look,

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Speaker 3: and it is it is a head turner. And if

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Speaker 3: those two guys in the highlights could jump out and say,

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Speaker 3: what like, can we see it?

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Speaker 4: Because they knew what it was. I mean, everybody knows

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Speaker 4: what it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that that that he has been

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Speaker 4: They know they're the outsideer.

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Speaker 3: They're saying, listen, whatever market share, we ain't got none now,

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Speaker 3: so let's get some. And the Bucky segment. I mean, Sarah,

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Speaker 3: we know the Bucky segment is huge in South Africa.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been growing exponentially. It's it's the what

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Speaker 3: the what the suv was the back he's now taken

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Speaker 3: over as the kind of new Well, it's not new

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Speaker 3: at all. Everyone's had BUCkies, but people are using them

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Speaker 3: for lifestyle purposes now, not just workhourses and these new ones.

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's get into the tech. Now.

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Speaker 3: If I start talking about the tech, that's when you're

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Speaker 3: going to actually say, how am I going to buy this?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Go on? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So the tech is where those high lugs owners went.

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Speaker 4: You're I'm go and say sweat. Yeah, anyway, it's a brilliant.

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Speaker 3: Cabin, no two ways of saying it any differently, no

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Speaker 3: other way of saying it. Rather, it's very tech savvy.

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Speaker 3: You've got this like huge, I think it's twelve point

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Speaker 3: three inches. This instrument cluster entertainment system, a five inch

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Speaker 3: you know, it's the thing you touch and then it's

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Speaker 4: It's got.

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Speaker 3: The is easy to use physical controls. They've done a

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Speaker 3: good combo between physical and screen. And there's so much space.

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Speaker 3: There's more space apparently leg room wise for back passengers

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Speaker 3: back passengers than apparently any other double cap. Well, this

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Speaker 3: is what they're saying. There's a lot of shoulder room. Also,

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Speaker 3: you can recline your rear seats.

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Speaker 4: This is big.

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Speaker 3: So you've got a little button where you can actually

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Speaker 3: RESTful ride. Sarah's eyes are huge. I have to tell you,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at you and I love your cap.

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Speaker 4: There's also I have. It does look lovely.

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Speaker 3: There's a wireless phone charging tray which is nothing new,

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Speaker 3: but I used it because I didn't bring my charging

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Speaker 3: cable by some I left it in the hotel to

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Speaker 3: be honest, and if the marrier hasn't, please give it back.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, so I put my phone on

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Speaker 3: a wireless charger and a charge properly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see because this is one of the first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got a lot of storage, Sarah Jane, I'm

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Speaker 3: thirty three liters concealed storage bin, which is a strange

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Speaker 3: little surprise, but a lovely one. Listen, I have to

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Speaker 3: just tell you now, I'm going to say a big

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Speaker 3: thing that I didn't like because I'm kind of raving, raving, raving.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to just so. One of the things

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Speaker 3: they've got is a lot of safety control systems, and

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Speaker 3: they've done within the system. When you get in the car,

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Speaker 3: it immediately goes into lane keep assist, which is that

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Speaker 3: awfully irritating beeping deep every time you touch the line.

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Speaker 3: In South Africa, we have narrow roads. You can't go

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Speaker 3: on passes without touching. We went on a lot of

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Speaker 3: passes and this bloody thing was just beep, beep, beeping.

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Speaker 3: So my partner and I found out. But it was

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Speaker 4: See's this is?

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Speaker 1: This is this is everyone's big question that here here

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Speaker 1: I think the carnival people, the sportage people, they might

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Speaker 3: Well, I've only got the goshwhere is it not I'm bragging.

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Speaker 1: then you've got a Ford Ranger Raptor one point two

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Speaker 1: seven million.

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Speaker 3: That's a Raptor though, that is a Raptor, so it's

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Speaker 3: not this strange straight Ranger. I had all these prices,

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Speaker 3: but I don't have nine thirty four nine hundred. Is

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Speaker 3: the Isuzu d Max three liter double cab v Cross

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Speaker 3: nine thirty four nine hundred. The Ranger is comes from

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Speaker 3: eight sixty five for the wild Track to a million

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Speaker 3: and thirty nine for the Tremor. Yeah, but like I

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Speaker 3: know that the Kire top of the range is absolutely

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Speaker 3: you know, in line with the Tremor and maybe even better.

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Speaker 3: Sorry Ford. Then you've got the new Highlus that's coming.

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Speaker 3: We don't know pricing yet, but the Legend fifty five

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Speaker 3: is nine forty five three hundred, and then you've got

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Speaker 3: the gr Sport for one million and something.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, interesting, interesting.

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Speaker 1: When you when you're when you're looking at the kind

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Speaker 1: of under seven hundred, which is the entry level for

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Speaker 1: the Kia Tasman you go, sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I wonder when you're then looking top of the range,

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Speaker 1: you're and you're kind of comparing a little bit more

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Speaker 1: like for like price wise, whether it's gonna be a downfall,

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I must say, go into a cabin of

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Speaker 3: a high Likes or even a Ranger. Ranger's got a

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Speaker 3: cool one though, I do like it, and then going

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Speaker 3: to get into the Tasman and you'll see like a

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Speaker 3: world of difference in terms of tech and gorgeousness.

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Speaker 2: What are you giving this out of ten?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's hard because if it wasn't for that lane keeper,

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Speaker 3: syst I'm in that lane keepers. I'm actually giving it

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Speaker 3: a nine out of ten today. I'm very, very very

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Speaker 3: impressed with this, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've been saying this for the last

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Speaker 1: three weeks. But I have to get I have to

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Speaker 1: get behind the wheel of one of these This is

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Speaker 1: this has been on my radio.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to speak to them. I will.

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Speaker 1: I will tell them, tell them Sja needs to get

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Speaker 1: behind the wheel of this now, Thanks very much. Indeed,