Neroli Brennan: This is Seeds for Success, a show where we have
Neroli Brennan: a good yarn about ag life with producers who are
Neroli Brennan: having a go. On the show you'll hear from farmers
Neroli Brennan: in New South Wales who are out there battling the elements,
Neroli Brennan: making tough calls, and getting the job done. You'll get
Neroli Brennan: a laugh out of some of their stories and also
Neroli Brennan: pick up some know- how along the way. I'm your
Neroli Brennan: host Neroli Brennan. Today we're catching up with Paul Jameson.
Neroli Brennan: Paul runs a livestock business on Pine Knoll Park, a 460-
Neroli Brennan: acre property near Geurie. Paul is currently the New South
Neroli Brennan: Wales Livestock Stud Manager for Elders and utilizes this experience
Neroli Brennan: to run sheep and cattle on what was once a
Neroli Brennan: blank canvas 10 years ago when he purchased the property.
Neroli Brennan: Over this period, Paul has invested in improving the infrastructure
Neroli Brennan: and establishing permanent pastures, including tropical pasture mixes, temperate pastures,
Neroli Brennan: and the additional dual- purpose crop when the season allows.
Neroli Brennan: Paul is also part of our Farming Forecaster network, which
Neroli Brennan: is recently ventured into the central west region and as
Neroli Brennan: you'll hear him explain, he identifies why he's so excited
Neroli Brennan: about this opportunity to forecast pasture growth and get real-
Neroli Brennan: time data from his farm. You'll also hear Paul speak
Neroli Brennan: to his experience as a stud livestock specialist and shares
Neroli Brennan: with us some of the important things to consider as
Neroli Brennan: producers coming out of the silly sale season and bringing
Neroli Brennan: those new purchases home. Local land services cropping advisor Tim
Neroli Brennan: Bartimote sat down with Paul early one morning to have
Neroli Brennan: this chat in our Dubbo office.
Tim Bartimote: Right. Well, welcome back listeners to the Seeds for Success podcast.
Tim Bartimote: Today I'm here with Paul Jameson. How are you going today, Paul?
Paul Jameson: Yeah, really well, Tim. Thank you. Thanks for the opportunity.
Paul Jameson: Good to have a chat.
Tim Bartimote: Thanks for squeezing this in. A bit of an early
Tim Bartimote: morning start, which is great. Maybe we get a conversation
Tim Bartimote: that's firing on all cylinders, but we're going to have
Tim Bartimote: a chat about Pine Knoll, your place just outside of Dubbo.
Tim Bartimote: Can you let the listeners know a bit about that?
Paul Jameson: Yeah, just 10 years ago now, Tim, I guess I'd
Paul Jameson: been decades or a long time trying to scratch enough,
Paul Jameson: a few funds together to buy a bit of land.
Paul Jameson: I grew up on a property, so I've always had
Paul Jameson: my roots on the land I guess. Fortunately about 10
Paul Jameson: years ago now, we're able to buy the property Pine
Paul Jameson: Knoll Park. It wasn't named that at the time, but
Paul Jameson: we changed the name. So it's just a beautiful little
Paul Jameson: 450, 60 acre place just in the Geurie district. So yeah,
Paul Jameson: just a mix there of mostly livestock, obviously in my
Paul Jameson: career where the livestock background and so that's where my interest is.
Paul Jameson: But yeah, just a nice little weekend style block I
Paul Jameson: suppose you'd call it.
Tim Bartimote: Yeah, right. So 10 years ago now, how did it
Tim Bartimote: start when you got it 10 years ago?
Paul Jameson: So when we purchased it, I saw the opportunity there
Paul Jameson: to improve it quite a bit, both in terms of
Paul Jameson: the infrastructure there, fencing and so on, but I guess
Paul Jameson: more importantly, the upside in the productivity side of it.
Paul Jameson: So that was really appealing to me to see that opportunity.
Paul Jameson: So we set about initially with I guess just hitting
Paul Jameson: it with heap of fertilizer and stuff straight up just
Paul Jameson: to stimulate some growth and pasture and so on, running
Paul Jameson: just cattle initially just to keep it simple but then
Paul Jameson: in a way, because it was a blank canvas, that's
Paul Jameson: where we saw the opportunity and why we were so
Paul Jameson: sort of keen to get our hands on it.
Tim Bartimote: Yeah, great. So can you kind of describe the landscape there,
Tim Bartimote: maybe the soil type as well?
Paul Jameson: There's a mix there, Tim. It's got quite a long,
Paul Jameson: about a two kilometer creek frontage, not a permanent creek.
Paul Jameson: So all of that land, those paddocks along that creek are,
Paul Jameson: I would describe them as a red sandy loam and
Paul Jameson: they rise up to some lighter stony or probably a
Paul Jameson: sand stony sort of ridge I suppose. So there's a
Paul Jameson: really good mix, a good balance, but particularly those flats
Paul Jameson: along the creek are quite fertile and productive.
Tim Bartimote: Yeah, I remember I've been there once or twice now
Tim Bartimote: and yeah, it definitely strikes me as a bit more alluvial.
Tim Bartimote: Definitely you see the pastures responding in those particular paddocks
Tim Bartimote: quite well, which is good to see. And so talk
Tim Bartimote: me through that blank canvas. So basically completely no permanent pastures,
Tim Bartimote: anything like that is purely just native or maybe pastures
Tim Bartimote: that have been let go a bit.
Paul Jameson: In was primarily just native pastures. So I could see that
Paul Jameson: the place had been many years ago it had been farmed.
Paul Jameson: It was quite evident just with clearing and the stacking
Paul Jameson: up of a bit of stone, that type of thing
Paul Jameson: that obviously it had been cropped or pastured many, many
Paul Jameson: years ago. As I say, we hit it with a
Paul Jameson: fertilizer initially and just got that initial rapid response, 200 kilos,
Paul Jameson: a hectare of single super straight up in that first year.
Paul Jameson: And then I guess as the income started to come
Paul Jameson: from a few livestock and so on, there were a
Paul Jameson: couple of pretty good years through that period in the
Paul Jameson: early part of that 10 years that we've owned the place.
Paul Jameson: I guess it generated enough revenue or cash flow then
Paul Jameson: to start to work on our infrastructure, but the primary
Paul Jameson: focus initially was just to boost that productivity with a
Paul Jameson: view down the track at the point that we're at
Paul Jameson: now to start to really put some proper permanent pastures
Paul Jameson: and so on onto the place.
Tim Bartimote: Well that's a great segue. Fast forward 10 years, you've
Tim Bartimote: now got a few more paddocks set up like fenced off,
Tim Bartimote: but you've also got, like you said, some permanent pastures
Tim Bartimote: set up. So you've just recently put in some temperate pastures,
Tim Bartimote: but you've also got tropicals and then you also do some
Tim Bartimote: grazing crops. Can you walk us through the process with the...
Tim Bartimote: What have you got in the temperate pastures? What have
Tim Bartimote: you got in the tropicals and what are you doing with
Tim Bartimote: the cereal grazing?
Paul Jameson: We've just systematically sort of paddock by paddock. So it
Paul Jameson: started with a process of just using grazing cleaning type
Paul Jameson: crops I suppose you call them, so generally oats. And we've
Paul Jameson: run through that cycle for a couple of years and
Paul Jameson: then in the recent sort of fruit... Well one to
Paul Jameson: say five years, we've started to plant permanent pastures starting
Paul Jameson: with a tropical mix of Bambatsi, Gatton Panic, Sabi grass and so on.
Paul Jameson: Into probably a couple of our tougher paddocks just understanding
Paul Jameson: that those grasses would probably perform there pretty well and again,
Paul Jameson: just continue to clean the broadleaf weeds and so on out of
Paul Jameson: that grass pasture for a couple of years. And ultimately
Paul Jameson: over sowing it with some clovers, with some legumes. So
Paul Jameson: that worked really well for us. So we went on
Paul Jameson: to do three years ago. Now the paddock that we're
Paul Jameson: at the point now, we have it clean enough weed-wise
Paul Jameson: to over sow with legumes probably in this next autumn
Paul Jameson: coming up. And then this early this year we planted
Paul Jameson: a temporary grass pasture paddock, so Cocksfoot, Phalaris under sown
Paul Jameson: with Arrowleaf Clover and lucerne. So it's just a really
Paul Jameson: good mix and it's firing away. It's just fantastic.
Tim Bartimote: Right. So walk me through that thought process of having
Tim Bartimote: the temperate pasture. Because I guess the listeners can't see
Tim Bartimote: it obviously, but there's a temperate pasture and across the
Tim Bartimote: fence is a tropical pasture. Is that just more of
Tim Bartimote: a feed gap trying to fill that?
Paul Jameson: Yeah, absolutely. So as recent as the last couple of
Paul Jameson: days when I was having a look, so the legumes
Paul Jameson: in that temperate pasture now are flowering, so we're ready
Paul Jameson: to move a few livestock off that paddock. And straight
Paul Jameson: through the fence of the tropical grasses, identical soil types
Paul Jameson: and so on. But just the converse in terms of
Paul Jameson: that grazing window I suppose. So fingers crossed with a
Paul Jameson: bit of moisture perhaps in the coming weeks and a bit
Paul Jameson: of urea over the next few days that tropical grass
Paul Jameson: paddock in another month will have absolute power feed. So
Paul Jameson: those livestock will just move pretty much through a gate,
Paul Jameson: straight onto the next grazing system.
Tim Bartimote: Do you anticipate any issues with the transition from the
Tim Bartimote: temperates to the tropicals?
Paul Jameson: I'm hoping not. I think souped-up or fertilized up, I think
Paul Jameson: just the bulk of those tropicals... I think the livestock will...
Paul Jameson: There might be a week or two of adaptation, I guess
Paul Jameson: just from one system to the other, but I don't anticipate any great
Paul Jameson: setback for them in that process.
Tim Bartimote: And I guess with the feeding of that tropical pasture,
Tim Bartimote: obviously there's a correlation between the feed quality and how
Tim Bartimote: much fertilizer you put on it, so that's hopefully minimal. Coming
Tim Bartimote: off on the grazing cereals, can you walk us through
Tim Bartimote: what happened this year?
Paul Jameson: This year, Tim, we brought another new paddock into the
Paul Jameson: system with a view to two or three years time
Paul Jameson: again going to a permanent pasture. So we were able
Paul Jameson: to procure some barley close by, Spartacus Barley. So it's
Paul Jameson: an awn variety, so not brilliant for grazing or haymaking
Paul Jameson: but certainly plenty of good vegetative growth early. But we
Paul Jameson: struck that warm week at the end of August and
Paul Jameson: pretty much over the course of a week it came
Paul Jameson: into head, so we basically sort of flicked a switch
Paul Jameson: and we'll use that this year, hopefully get it through
Paul Jameson: to harvest for a bit of grain, but we'll certainly
Paul Jameson: put there in the first instance as part of a
Paul Jameson: grazing plan, but we've decided now to potentially harvest that.
Paul Jameson: So yeah, looking forward to seeing what yields we get there.
Tim Bartimote: Do you think that'll be a part of your process
Tim Bartimote: going forward, utilizing, perhaps those cereal varieties that aren't typically
Tim Bartimote: identified as dual purpose per se, but have the opportunity
Tim Bartimote: for an initial little graze and then locking up later?
Paul Jameson: Definitely. I think bearing in mind that it is primarily a
Paul Jameson: grazing system or operation, so I think I'd stay away
Paul Jameson: from an awn variety of grazing cereal for that reason, just
Paul Jameson: to keep the focus on that grain. So I've got
Paul Jameson: more options I think. I feel like I've gotten into
Paul Jameson: a corner a bit with it going to head I suppose.
Paul Jameson: I mean I'm not really disappointed, but it wasn't the plan.
Paul Jameson: The ultimate goal is to have that paddock all clean
Paul Jameson: and tidy. It was sprayed. We used in- crop sprays
Paul Jameson: to take the weeds out so it's well on its
Paul Jameson: way to being all clean and tidy for a permanent pasture.
Tim Bartimote: Right, okay. It's just making the most of it while it's there,
Tim Bartimote: but end goal is to turn it into part of
Tim Bartimote: that pasture mix. That might be a good place to
Tim Bartimote: transition into chatting about Farming Forecaster network. We were talking before,
Tim Bartimote: just before we started the podcast and you mentioned that there
Tim Bartimote: was a bit of a cold snap, was it - 5 or something like that?
Tim Bartimote: So where I met you Paul obviously was we were
Tim Bartimote: establishing a Farming Forecaster site, which is part of an
Tim Bartimote: LLS program to put weather stations around and trying to
Tim Bartimote: forecast pasture growth in a few months in advance and
Tim Bartimote: see what the weather's doing. So can you just walk
Tim Bartimote: us through your interest in that project and how it
Tim Bartimote: might help your operation?
Paul Jameson: When it was mentioned to me, I jumped at the opportunity,
Paul Jameson: any of that sort of stuff, particularly given that I
Paul Jameson: don't live on site on the farm. So I've grabbed
Paul Jameson: the opportunity to use tank monitoring systems, anything that I
Paul Jameson: can get my hands on to know and understand what's
Paul Jameson: going on there. At times I can be a week
Paul Jameson: or 10 days away and not have a clue with
Paul Jameson: what's happened there. But we were talking about that morning,
Paul Jameson: so a mid- September, particularly cold morning in the Farming
Paul Jameson: Forecaster or the weather station recorded a - 5. 2 temperature,
Paul Jameson: at a pretty critical stage I thought in that barley
Paul Jameson: crop that we were talking about. So it's just really
Paul Jameson: interesting to have your hand... Not that you can change
Paul Jameson: what the weather's doing, but certainly knowing what's going on
Paul Jameson: and I look at it every day and happy to show
Paul Jameson: other people how it works. And I just think for me
Paul Jameson: particularly not being there, it's just a really, really handy
Paul Jameson: tool to have access to all that information.
Tim Bartimote: And so do you think there's application there, not just
Tim Bartimote: for the person who's not always on site, but also
Tim Bartimote: for the person who's got such a broad farm, perhaps
Tim Bartimote: a fair bit of scale and so they can't physically
Tim Bartimote: access all those to have a look and they can
Tim Bartimote: just see that on their phone?
Paul Jameson: Even more so for those large operations. Mine is relatively small,
Paul Jameson: but most definitely. It's just the ease to be able to just log on and just to
Paul Jameson: have all of those recordings and there'll be more (inaudible)
Paul Jameson: courses, as we know with the probe stuff when
Paul Jameson: it comes online telling us what's happening under the ground
Paul Jameson: as well. I mean even if you're on site, that's
Paul Jameson: stuff that you can't see or feel. So it's just
Paul Jameson: to have an understanding of what's going on, soil moisture
Paul Jameson: and temperature wise with these sorts of systems is just,
Paul Jameson: it's an amazing thing to have.
Tim Bartimote: Yeah. And I guess it's probably worth me mentioning that. Yeah,
Tim Bartimote: so the Farming Forecaster network, like you said, incorporates a
Tim Bartimote: capacitance probe to determine moisture as a weather station, but
Tim Bartimote: it also has a forecasting arm to try and predict
Tim Bartimote: pasture growth. And I think it's three months off the top
Tim Bartimote: of my head, but it's situated across the whole state almost.
Tim Bartimote: And so you can see eventually central west will pop
Tim Bartimote: up on this big map that shows you what's going
Tim Bartimote: on across the entire area, which would be interesting. Do
Tim Bartimote: you think there's benefit in terms of not just seeing
Tim Bartimote: your own place but also seeing how you reflect across,
Tim Bartimote: say the rest of the region or the rest of
Tim Bartimote: the state? Is that helpful information?
Paul Jameson: Most definitely. And I guess in the industry that I'm in,
Paul Jameson: the livestock agency industry, that's one of the tools we
Paul Jameson: have as a network of businesses and I guess services
Paul Jameson: to rural people is to have that knowledge of what
Paul Jameson: the seasonality is across different areas for the information of
Paul Jameson: other people, whether it's looking for agistment or whatever
Paul Jameson: it might be. So with these systems monitoring a lot
Paul Jameson: of that information digitally over such a vast area, it's doing
Paul Jameson: our job for us in a lot of ways just
Paul Jameson: without having a conversation. It's right there in your palm
Paul Jameson: of your hand.
Tim Bartimote: It actually reminds me of a cricket saying, when someone strikes
Tim Bartimote: a ball really hard and it's going to the boundary,
Tim Bartimote: what they say? They say save your legs or something like that,
Tim Bartimote: like don't bother running.
Paul Jameson: Yeah, don't bother running.
Tim Bartimote: Yeah, it's a bit like that with this. You don't have to go out and mosey around.
Tim Bartimote: You can just know exactly what's going on. In terms
Tim Bartimote: of just generally, not just Farming Forecaster, but utilizing technology
Tim Bartimote: and apps and things, do you think it's pretty easy
Tim Bartimote: to pick up or is it a bit of like, oh,
Tim Bartimote: this is how it works and it takes a couple
Tim Bartimote: of weeks to sort that out?
Paul Jameson: I guess I picked it up and I'm certainly no
Paul Jameson: technology guru, but I picked it up straight away and
Paul Jameson: I feel like I've been in this game now for
Paul Jameson: 40 years thereabouts, and I think that the generations that
Paul Jameson: we're seeing coming through now on the land or in
Paul Jameson: the ag industry, without any disrespect to the older people,
Paul Jameson: but they're that way inclined. So there'll be no issue with
Paul Jameson: the understanding of how it works and along with any
Paul Jameson: other technology and that's being adopted, whether it's in the
Paul Jameson: animal world or the animal production world or the cropping world.
Paul Jameson: It's just like what we're seeing and the speed of it
Paul Jameson: happening now is the likes that I've certainly never seen in
Paul Jameson: my time.
Tim Bartimote: The availability that is of various technologies for like off-
Tim Bartimote: site monitoring and things.
Paul Jameson: Yeah. Availability and I guess just the accuracy of it,
Paul Jameson: if it's in the planning or the spreading of fertilizer
Paul Jameson: in the cropping world or if it's in the data
Paul Jameson: collection and extraction around the DNA and the genetics in the
Paul Jameson: animal world, or the breeding livestock world. It's just getting
Paul Jameson: pretty close.
Tim Bartimote: So Paul, your official title is the Stud Stock Manager
Tim Bartimote: for New South Wales for Elders. Can you give us
Tim Bartimote: a bit of an insight into what that role looks like?
Paul Jameson: Yeah, so I've had, as I mentioned before, I've had
Paul Jameson: now 40 years this year with Elders. I've always, even
Paul Jameson: as a kid, had an interest in livestock. So I
Paul Jameson: was very fortunate, I suppose coming out of Farrow to
Paul Jameson: be one of the chosen trainees, I suppose by Elders
Paul Jameson: at the time to join their company with a view
Paul Jameson: to being involved in livestock somehow. So I've come through
Paul Jameson: branch manager of a few different locations across New South Wales.
Paul Jameson: And here at this stage in my career, find myself
Paul Jameson: in what we call the stud stock section, stud livestock section.
Paul Jameson: So I've done that role now for the last probably
Paul Jameson: six or seven years, I suppose, based out of Dubbo.
Paul Jameson: So pretty much we service and look after... We do
Paul Jameson: about 150 or 60 events and stud sales across the state each
Paul Jameson: year with a really big dominance in the springtime. So we're
Paul Jameson: just rolling out of that period now. So pretty much
Paul Jameson: it just involves marketing rams and bulls on behalf of
Paul Jameson: our clients, matching up buyers with them as sellers, I suppose.
Paul Jameson: And it's an exciting game to be in. We see
Paul Jameson: some big numbers and some big prices at times. It
Paul Jameson: really has a direct correlation with what's going on in
Paul Jameson: the commercial world, just your general sheep and cattle markets
Paul Jameson: that happen every day of the week across the country.
Paul Jameson: But where I guess we're seeing that the clients are
Paul Jameson: making decisions today to buy a bull or a ram,
Paul Jameson: they won't really see the progeny from technically for another
Paul Jameson: year or two and not even get to sell it for
Paul Jameson: another two or three years. So it's a long game,
Paul Jameson: but it's fascinating to watch it evolve.
Tim Bartimote: So from someone who's been in the industry for a
Tim Bartimote: fair while now, what do you think has been the
Tim Bartimote: impact of, say, online platforms to sell stock and even
Tim Bartimote: stud stock perhaps and people utilizing that to less so
Tim Bartimote: do face- to- face sales and things?
Paul Jameson: It's had a massive impact. So certainly really took off
Paul Jameson: through the COVID period, Tim. So when people weren't allowed
Paul Jameson: to travel so much, although we were still able to
Paul Jameson: conduct sales, they were considered at the time an essential service.
Paul Jameson: So you could have somebody turn up and film and
Paul Jameson: photograph animals and still run an online sale and people
Paul Jameson: could just continue to do their jobs and to get
Paul Jameson: their animals out there to the marketplace, I suppose. But
Paul Jameson: definitely the advent of online platforms has changed the landscape
Paul Jameson: a lot. I also do have a view that it's
Paul Jameson: nice to have the people on site given that it
Paul Jameson: is an auction situation. So that whole atmosphere of having
Paul Jameson: a crowd of people there bidding at a sale in
Paul Jameson: many ways is I guess a lot... There's a lot more activity,
Paul Jameson: a lot more stimulating, a lot more sort of theater
Paul Jameson: to it, I suppose, to have the people on site.
Paul Jameson: So it's a double- edged sword. It won't go away.
Paul Jameson: It's here forever. It's still a growing space, that online
Paul Jameson: space with marketing livestock and I guess with talking about
Paul Jameson: technology and data... So it's all there right in front of you.
Paul Jameson: It's written the information, the EBVs, all the statistics on
Paul Jameson: the animals are very visual when you've got an online
Paul Jameson: platform to work with as well.
Tim Bartimote: That provoked a thought in my mind, and I wonder
Tim Bartimote: what you think about this. Do you think that having say a face- to-
Tim Bartimote: face auction versus something online, and you talked about it
Tim Bartimote: being almost an event and there being a certain atmosphere,
Tim Bartimote: do you reckon that influences people's decision- making significantly to
Tim Bartimote: have say, not to say in an emotional decision, but definitely if
Tim Bartimote: they're face- to- face that you might be more likely
Tim Bartimote: to buy or not buy versus online where it's a
Tim Bartimote: bit more cold, I guess?
Paul Jameson: Yeah, no, you are spot on. I mean, it's a fine line to have
Paul Jameson: a conversation with a producer about which path they should go.
Paul Jameson: We run some sales exclusively online and it is a
Paul Jameson: bit pedestrian to be honest, but it's a best fit
Paul Jameson: for that style of operation, I suppose. So you're 100% correct.
Paul Jameson: If you're at a sale where the interest and the levels
Paul Jameson: are very high and for whatever the reason is that
Paul Jameson: people want that article, it happens all the time that
Paul Jameson: buyers will just have that extra one or two or
Paul Jameson: three bids or just because they're caught up in the moment,
Paul Jameson: there's no risk about that.
Tim Bartimote: What's currently going on in the stud stock world that producers
Tim Bartimote: should be mindful about?
Paul Jameson: Yeah, so we're just coming towards the end, Tim, of
Paul Jameson: what we term in our industry, the silly season, I suppose.
Paul Jameson: So two or three months of bull and ram sales,
Paul Jameson: particularly here in the central west of New South Wales.
Paul Jameson: It is a seasonal thing that's sort of coupled up
Paul Jameson: with when the joining periods are for the commercial producers
Paul Jameson: when they put their bulls and their rams out. So
Paul Jameson: we're a couple of weeks from sort of closing out
Paul Jameson: a really hectic two or three months of sales. I
Paul Jameson: guess from this point forward, mid- October, those joinings will
Paul Jameson: be happening. People have just spent the last few months
Paul Jameson: securing their bulls or their rams to join up with
Paul Jameson: their females at home primarily through this month, October, November,
Paul Jameson: in this part of the world, certainly. So I guess
Paul Jameson: it's important that with that in mind, the condition scores
Paul Jameson: of those animals, the general health of them, the females
Paul Jameson: that is, and the bulls I suppose too, or rams,
Paul Jameson: it's a critical period given that most joinings are sort
Paul Jameson: of five or six weeks in terms of duration. So
Paul Jameson: you've got that tiny little snapshot or that window of time to
Paul Jameson: get it right to get those females pregnant. So it's
Paul Jameson: all about just making sure that everything's healthy, forwarding condition
Paul Jameson: and it's got every opportunity to go in calf or
Paul Jameson: in lamb.
Tim Bartimote: And I guess it makes sense. You've just spent inordinate
Tim Bartimote: amount of money on a particular animal and you want their
Tim Bartimote: genetics passed on, so you want to put them in
Tim Bartimote: the best position to be able to do that and
Tim Bartimote: do their job, I guess.
Paul Jameson: Yeah, definitely. I feel like it's pretty easy for people,
Paul Jameson: and I've fallen into this trap even myself, with my
Paul Jameson: own little operation just to take the "she'll be right"
Paul Jameson: approach or a bit of a shortcut, but you're really
Paul Jameson: sorry with that sort of attitude when it comes to
Paul Jameson: pregnancy scanning and it isn't what you thought it should
Paul Jameson: have been, and what have I done wrong? And invariably
Paul Jameson: it comes down to the nutrition and the health. I mean,
Paul Jameson: certainly there are fertility traits through certain breeds and types
Paul Jameson: of animals that will give you heightened levels of pregnancy
Paul Jameson: rates and so on. But I think the underlying thing
Paul Jameson: is nutrition and health and condition, and it goes right
Paul Jameson: back to where we started the conversation about your pastures
Paul Jameson: and so on. It all ties in together. So if you've
Paul Jameson: got them humming, give them... There's any amount of, I guess,
Paul Jameson: products out there that can also assist in getting animals pregnant.
Paul Jameson: But if you can feed them properly and those bulls
Paul Jameson: and those reams are in prime condition when they go
Paul Jameson: out with those ewes or those cows, then that's your opportunity
Paul Jameson: for your best gain going forward to get a live
Paul Jameson: animal on the ground.
Tim Bartimote: So yeah, I like how you tied it back because that's where I was thinking, setting
Tim Bartimote: up your pastures for success so you can set up
Tim Bartimote: your animals for success and get your whole farm pumping along,
Tim Bartimote: being productive.
Paul Jameson: Yeah, no, definitely a full circle, but no, I can't stress
Paul Jameson: that enough. But yeah, just to your question, so I suppose
Paul Jameson: the next three or four or two or three months
Paul Jameson: leading into Christmas, we're in that window of time where
Paul Jameson: those joinings are happening after we've just had this busy
Paul Jameson: stud selling season with all these rams and these bulls
Paul Jameson: going to their new homes, I suppose, and we look
Paul Jameson: forward to seeing the results of what they produce next year.
Tim Bartimote: Awesome. Well, thanks Paul, appreciate your time coming in today. Yeah,
Tim Bartimote: look forward to hearing how you get on with your
Tim Bartimote: pastures and that farming forecast aside.
Paul Jameson: My pleasure, Tim. No, no. It's great to have a
Paul Jameson: catch up and certainly the opportunity for, you don't stop
Paul Jameson: and think about these things at times until somebody asks
Paul Jameson: you the questions. But no, it's been a great opportunity.
Paul Jameson: Good to have a chat. Appreciate it. Thank you.
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