WEBVTT - Using Dancers' Body Heat to Power a Club | S5 E4

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<v Speaker 1>This week, we're getting hot and sweaty for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of sustainability.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going? Thank you so much for hitting play

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth Care the podcast where we have climate conscious

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<v Speaker 1>conversations in a not so overwhelming way. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Christie and welcome to episode four of the Sustainability

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<v Speaker 1>and the live music Industry series. Now, before I introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to this week's guest, I just wanna extend the biggest.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to you. Whether you've listened before, whether this

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<v Speaker 1>is your first time hitting play, I really do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time and that you're joining this conversation. Swg

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<v Speaker 1>three is a venue in Glasgow Scotland that embodies the

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<v Speaker 1>creative innovation that a green future calls for in your

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about sustainability. The phrase use what you have may

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<v Speaker 1>have come up. This call to action is a big

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<v Speaker 1>proponent of waste reduction

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<v Speaker 1>because it isn't dependent on more, right, more extraction, more emissions,

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<v Speaker 1>more waste, which yeah, it can easily be put in

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<v Speaker 1>motion on an individual level. You don't have food containers

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<v Speaker 1>to store leftovers. Great. I'll just use old jars and

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<v Speaker 1>old take out containers that I have ran out of rags.

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<v Speaker 1>No problem. I'll cut up an old T shirt and

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<v Speaker 1>turn that into rags. But what does that look like

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<v Speaker 1>for a venue though, especially one of Scotland's busiest venues

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<v Speaker 1>that welcomes 250

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<v Speaker 1>1000 people year round. In 2021 swg three began their

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<v Speaker 1>substantial shift towards Net zero. They began measuring the carbon

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<v Speaker 1>footprint of their operation to better understand their environmental impact.

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<v Speaker 1>With that. They developed a baseline that allows them to

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<v Speaker 1>continuously move that sustainability needle as a business, they want

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<v Speaker 1>guests to keep dancing, they want to keep working and

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<v Speaker 1>have made it their mission to operate in a

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<v Speaker 1>manner that recognizes the climate crisis. By 2022 swg three

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<v Speaker 1>caught the world's attention by introducing a form of renewable

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<v Speaker 1>energy that no other venue had tapped into. They started

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<v Speaker 1>using the heat generated by all of the dancing fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Body heat. I remember reading about that here in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>and a being so jealous that it wasn't here. It

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<v Speaker 1>was all the way in Scotland and B being so

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<v Speaker 1>energized at the fun strides being

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<v Speaker 1>made for the environment. Body heat is just one of

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<v Speaker 1>the items on the very long and growing list of

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<v Speaker 1>systems in place that are getting swg three closer to

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<v Speaker 1>net zero. I'm so thrilled to introduce you to Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>George sustainability coordinator at SWG three who is here to

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<v Speaker 1>break down how exactly body heat works, what other green

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<v Speaker 1>practices are in place and what's next for SWG three's

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<v Speaker 1>sustainable journey.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is episode four of the sustainability and the

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<v Speaker 1>live music industry series on Earth Care with Hannah George.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah George sustainability coordinator over at SWG three. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? I'm good,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks. Yeah, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you? I'm great. I, like I said, so excited, beyond

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<v Speaker 1>excited to be talking with you right now. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me as we get into it just to kick

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<v Speaker 1>it all off the back story on SWG three deciding

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<v Speaker 1>to kickstart the journey to going to Net

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<v Speaker 2>Zero. Back in 2021 SWG three hosted the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times climate hub during COP 26. So that was,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a really big turning point for us. We

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<v Speaker 2>began to ask ourselves the question, you know, are we

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<v Speaker 2>doing enough for the environment? Yes, we're recycling. Yes, we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be energy efficient. But is that enough? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the truth is we could always be doing more.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's when we decided to start our journey to

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<v Speaker 2>going Net zero and just looking at all aspects of

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<v Speaker 2>sustainability across the venue and across our events,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the capacity of the venue?

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<v Speaker 2>So we have four different venues within our venue. So,

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<v Speaker 2>so the largest is around 1500 the smallest is around

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<v Speaker 2>100 and 25. So we can put on a huge

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<v Speaker 2>kind of range of events and there is a really

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<v Speaker 2>big diversity in the kind of events that we get

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<v Speaker 2>at the venue and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of potential for waste for a venue that size.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a large number, right? So when you are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this transition, I am wondering what were some

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<v Speaker 1>of the roadblocks that or the hurdles that you had

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<v Speaker 1>to overcome to really start chipping away at this mission?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think anyone who has tried to implement

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<v Speaker 2>will probably agree that one of the biggest hurdles is

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<v Speaker 2>behavior change. So it can be difficult to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get people on board with change with sustainable change. That's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of different to business as usual or what they

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<v Speaker 2>have expected when they've been to the venue before or

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<v Speaker 2>other venues. So yeah, whether that's like a different recycling

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<v Speaker 2>system or reusable cup system, um it all kind of

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<v Speaker 2>takes a level of communication, but I think there's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>like a slow but certain change

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<v Speaker 2>in people's attitudes towards environmental issues and people are being

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<v Speaker 2>more open to these changes as they become more common

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<v Speaker 2>in other venues and around the place as well. Definitely

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see a shift in

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<v Speaker 1>that, right? And communication plays such a major role and

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it for an event space, right? You

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<v Speaker 1>have to be communicating with your entire team, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the guests who are then coming and letting them know

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<v Speaker 1>about all of the new projects you have in place

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<v Speaker 1>like body heat, which was implemented in 2022.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you walk me through this technology? How, what is it,

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<v Speaker 1>how does it work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Body heat is a thermal heating and cooling system. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>it allows us to harness body heat from club and

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<v Speaker 2>gig goers and guests attending our events. So essentially the

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<v Speaker 2>heat from our venues is transported using a carrier of

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<v Speaker 2>fluid through a closed network of pipes to heat pumps

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<v Speaker 2>in a plant room. And then that heat is then

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<v Speaker 2>stored 200 m underground in our 12 boreholes. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when that energy is ready to be used,

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<v Speaker 2>it can travel back to the heat pumps where it's

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<v Speaker 2>upgraded to a suitable temperature and then it's emitted back

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<v Speaker 2>into our spaces. So that was a very brief rundown.

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<v Speaker 2>But I hope that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing is encouraged, sweaty is sustainable, you know, the sweatier,

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<v Speaker 1>the better is that what you're saying here?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. Yeah, we kind of realized like, I mean, anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's been to a club will know how hot it

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<v Speaker 2>gets in there. Um So we, yeah, we just thought,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see what we can do. How do we harness that,

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<v Speaker 2>how we use it?

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<v Speaker 1>I was laughing when I was uh doing some prep

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<v Speaker 1>for this interview because I read that you often get asked,

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<v Speaker 1>does it smell and does

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<v Speaker 2>it? No, it doesn't. So all we're capturing is the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not capturing the sweat or the smell or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So yeah, actually it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't smell. How long did this take to install? Because

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds like a major project. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was so I wasn't actually sure when body heat was

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<v Speaker 2>being implemented, but as a rough timeline, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>took around two years from kind of the initial idea

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<v Speaker 2>to the installation.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is very much a project that began during

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<v Speaker 2>lockdown when the venue wasn't able to operate. So, um

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we were thinking, what, what can we do

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<v Speaker 2>with this time? How can we work towards our sustainability goals?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was kind of like a perfect opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on a much bigger project like this and that

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<v Speaker 2>required that time and resource. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>turning lemons into lemonade for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this the first of its kind, I've, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>read about anything like this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as we know, um this is the first

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<v Speaker 2>of this kind of system that's been implemented in a venue.

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<v Speaker 2>And the interesting thing is that it does use kind

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<v Speaker 2>of off the shelf technology. So it uses heat pumps

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<v Speaker 2>and it uses the kind of technology from geothermal storage

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<v Speaker 2>to store

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<v Speaker 2>that energy. So kind of putting different pieces of the

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<v Speaker 2>puzzle together to create something new. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's super cool. Now, you also touched on the reusable

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<v Speaker 1>cup system that you have in place and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for a venue of your size, I imagine there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of upkeep. What is that like for SWG three?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So our reusable cup system um only kicked off

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<v Speaker 2>in December of last year. So it's pretty new.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've partnered with an amazing company called Stack Up

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<v Speaker 2>who basically help us with the logistics of the system.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've also implemented um a similar system in the

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<v Speaker 2>hydro which is a neighboring venue with 14,000 capacity. So

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<v Speaker 2>they definitely know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think a lot of it comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to communicating again how the system works with our visitors

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<v Speaker 2>through social media and posters. And also making sure we

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<v Speaker 2>have an effective cup collection system at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the night. So we're gathering them all back in to

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<v Speaker 2>be reused. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is for everything you go up to the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>you order your drink, whether it's whatever beer, uh cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>water and then it's given to the guest in a

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<v Speaker 1>reusable cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And are you guys looking after washing it

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<v Speaker 1>or is it then given back to your partner that you,

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<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned that cup

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<v Speaker 2>will at the end of the night, take all the

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<v Speaker 2>cups away and wash them and return them. So, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're locally based. So yeah, it was a really great

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<v Speaker 2>kind of partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>right? So then you're working with the, you know, within

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<v Speaker 1>the economy too, for green initiatives, which is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you about the water bottle that

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<v Speaker 1>I never leave my house without. This is the most

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<v Speaker 1>convenient reusable water bottle, it's collapsible. So when you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>using it, you squish it down into a little disk

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<v Speaker 1>size and put it in your pocket purse. Fanny pack.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about when you're traveling and you don't wanna take

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<v Speaker 1>up too much space in your luggage or hiking and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to carry around a heavy bag. This

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<v Speaker 1>bottle is space saving, leak proof, ultra light. Then

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you pass a water refill station, you expand it

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<v Speaker 1>hydrate for free and help reduce plastic bottle pollution. My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite place to bring it is concerts. I take it

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<v Speaker 1>with me to every show. As long as the venue

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<v Speaker 1>allows reusable water bottles, then fill it at the concert

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<v Speaker 1>for free. It's the best though because it's suitable with

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<v Speaker 1>venue regulation. It's so small that it fits in your

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<v Speaker 1>tiny bag, which is perfect since most venues only allow

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<v Speaker 1>small bags. Now check out the hideaway collapsible water bottle

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes and use the discount code podcast

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<v Speaker 1>for 10% off your first purchase. What is the circular

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<v Speaker 1>swap shop? How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's another recent one. We're not just a

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<v Speaker 2>venue at SOG three. We also have 23 artist studios

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<v Speaker 2>on site. We kind of wanted to create a platform

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<v Speaker 2>for our resident artists to be able to like donate

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<v Speaker 2>and swap and sell items. So they have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of art supplies, books and materials. So yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>an online platform that we've created for them to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of be able to share things reduce waste and also

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<v Speaker 2>kind of contribute to the circular economy.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the venue is just leading in that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation of a circular economy. What about the active travel initiative?

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<v Speaker 1>What's

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<v Speaker 2>that? Our active travel initiative is a strategy that we're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in the process of developing,

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<v Speaker 2>to encourage our staff and audiences to travel to the

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<v Speaker 2>venue more sustainably. So it kind of began back in

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<v Speaker 2>2022 when we carried out an audit of how our

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<v Speaker 2>staff travels to the venue and what those behavior patterns

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<v Speaker 2>look like and kind of asked them, what would they

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<v Speaker 2>like to see what would encourage them to travel to

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<v Speaker 2>the venue more sustainably and a lot of that was

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<v Speaker 2>to do with um facilities. So this year, we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>much more cycle parking facilities installed and also looking at

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<v Speaker 2>ways to engage staff with cycling such as proficiency lessons

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<v Speaker 2>and bike

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<v Speaker 2>maintenance workshops. And then hopefully, if the staff program is successful,

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<v Speaker 2>we can start to expand some of these initiatives and

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<v Speaker 2>with our audiences as

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<v Speaker 1>well. It really sounds like you're just part of such

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger conversation and leading in so many ways, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just really encouraging and hopeful to see you're on

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<v Speaker 1>this journey to be net zero by 2050. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the goals do I have that correct? 2050 still? So

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<v Speaker 2>2030 is our, is our goal that's kind of aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with the Glasgow City. Um

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<v Speaker 2>It's your target. So that's what we're aiming

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<v Speaker 1>for. So, one of the other goals by 2030 is

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<v Speaker 1>to be working with artists reducing their touring emissions. Has

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<v Speaker 1>that started yet? Have you had any artists come to you? For,

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<v Speaker 1>in that aspect, we

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<v Speaker 2>definitely are hearing more artists coming to us and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>asking what our sustainability credentials are like, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's still a long way to go

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<v Speaker 2>with that. One of the things that we're doing this

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<v Speaker 2>year is we've put together a green events guide which

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<v Speaker 2>is being distributed to every single artist and event organizer

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<v Speaker 2>that comes into the venue.

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<v Speaker 2>So essentially this sets out the key areas for environmental consideration.

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<v Speaker 2>So like waste energy, food production and kind of giving

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<v Speaker 2>them tips on ways that they can reduce their environmental impact.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you

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<v Speaker 1>handle the rider situation? Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of our first step in that. It's,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something we're mandating, it's just suggestions starting that

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<v Speaker 2>conversation because I think that's what needs to happen first

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<v Speaker 2>and then eventually we'll maybe look at including that in

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<v Speaker 2>more of a formal rider for artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had other clubs reach out to you and,

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<v Speaker 1>and other venues reach out to you trying to follow suit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are really kind of connected with um other

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<v Speaker 2>venues um in the Glasgow scene, I guess. And So

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<v Speaker 2>we work quite closely with the f concerts who um

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<v Speaker 2>put on a huge range of uh concerts and events

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<v Speaker 2>and have their own sustainability strategy. So looking for ways to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, align those things to link up with promoters

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<v Speaker 2>and other venues and

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<v Speaker 2>yeah, event organizers to find ways that we can collaborate

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<v Speaker 2>on this. Because I think that's, that's what this issue needs,

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<v Speaker 2>it needs kind of that cross sector collaboration.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All hands on deck and now that you've had

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<v Speaker 1>time to really spend in the sustainability space and see

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<v Speaker 1>it be successful. What do you hope to see more

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<v Speaker 1>of moving forward from, you know, the live music industry?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think more artists communicating with their audience.

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<v Speaker 2>I think artists have such an influence. There's only so

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<v Speaker 2>much we can do as a venue. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>um if artists are communicating these issues to their audiences,

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<v Speaker 2>that could have a huge kind of ripple effect. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to work with more artists um to see

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<v Speaker 2>what we can do to make change in the

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<v Speaker 1>industry. If I ever find myself in Glasgow swg three

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be the first stop on the travel bucket list.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah George. Thank you so much for sharing your time

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<v Speaker 1>with Earth care. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>such a pleasure chatting with you. Thank you. How much

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<v Speaker 1>harder would you dance if you knew it was supporting

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<v Speaker 1>renewable energy? I can't get over how reassuring it is.

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<v Speaker 1>To learn that innovation like this is successfully in motion

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<v Speaker 1>and it's such a populated place. The word we keep

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<v Speaker 1>going back to in this series is community because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what live music effortlessly creates. Swg Three has organically welcomed

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<v Speaker 1>a community of a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of a million people annually who are celebrating live

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<v Speaker 1>events while simultaneously embracing green alternatives. The body heat technology

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<v Speaker 1>is such an ingenious creation that addresses the climate crisis

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<v Speaker 1>without interfering with the norm. You know, you still get

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the concert, you still get to dance.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's encouraged, imagine how this technology could be used.

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<v Speaker 1>Not if but when it catches on

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<v Speaker 1>at other venues, gyms, hot yoga studios, schools the mall

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<v Speaker 1>during the holiday season, when you trekked in from the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the parking lot and your winter coat, if

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<v Speaker 1>you live somewhere that gets winter, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the technology hasn't made its way to Canada yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>there are a ton of venues here in Canada, major

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<v Speaker 1>ones too that allow guests to bring their own reusable

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<v Speaker 1>water bottles, which is a really simple way to take

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<v Speaker 1>climate action. The fans choose to reuse pledge is a

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<v Speaker 1>call to action that I launched that encourages music lovers

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<v Speaker 1>and concert goers to bring a reusable water bottle to

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<v Speaker 1>live music events. Whenever the venue allows it, if you

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<v Speaker 1>choose to reuse, this is so great,

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<v Speaker 1>you can prevent up to 156 plastic bottles from being

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<v Speaker 1>discarded annually, which is important when you hear that 1

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<v Speaker 1>million bottles are purchased every minute. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about the pledge, add your name, join that

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<v Speaker 1>community of music fans taking action. I'll include the link

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes each episode. I promise to do

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<v Speaker 1>the research. So you don't have to and tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about more venues across the country that are cool with

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<v Speaker 1>personal bottles. This is all based on where you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to look though.

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<v Speaker 1>So keep messaging me about venues and cities. You're curious

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<v Speaker 1>about this week's message is from Luke and Edmonton who

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<v Speaker 1>said he saw Noah Khan at Roger's Place but wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure if he was allowed to bring his bottle. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only are you allowed to bring a reusable water bottle there,

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<v Speaker 1>Roger's Place is actually Lead certified, which is a green

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<v Speaker 1>certification and one of their other initiatives. This is so neat,

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<v Speaker 1>ensures prepared but unserved food from events is then donated

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<v Speaker 1>to the Edmonton Food Bank.

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<v Speaker 1>So, hey, cheers to reusing at the next concert you

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<v Speaker 1>go to if you've been enjoying the series so far,

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<v Speaker 1>I invite you to leave a review rate. This podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>This really helps get the word out about the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and then encourages new listeners. And if we've been learning

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<v Speaker 1>anything about this conversation, it's that we need as many

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<v Speaker 1>people as we can get in these climate conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is welcome to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly do appreciate you making time for this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining episode four of the

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<v Speaker 1>sustainability in the live music industry series on Earth Care.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Sarah Christie. I'll talk to you next

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<v Speaker 1>week when actually, we're taking a deep dive into that

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<v Speaker 1>lead certification at Canada's largest Convention Center.