1 00:00:00,119 --> 00:00:03,140 Speaker 1: This week, we're getting hot and sweaty for the sake 2 00:00:03,150 --> 00:00:04,179 Speaker 1: of sustainability. 3 00:00:05,460 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: How's it going? Thank you so much for hitting play 4 00:00:08,529 --> 00:00:11,279 Speaker 1: on Earth Care the podcast where we have climate conscious 5 00:00:11,289 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: conversations in a not so overwhelming way. I'm your host, 6 00:00:15,170 --> 00:00:19,469 Speaker 1: Sarah Christie and welcome to episode four of the Sustainability 7 00:00:19,479 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: and the live music Industry series. Now, before I introduce 8 00:00:22,930 --> 00:00:26,129 Speaker 1: you to this week's guest, I just wanna extend the biggest. 9 00:00:26,139 --> 00:00:28,959 Speaker 1: Thank you to you. Whether you've listened before, whether this 10 00:00:28,969 --> 00:00:31,719 Speaker 1: is your first time hitting play, I really do 11 00:00:31,825 --> 00:00:35,924 Speaker 1: appreciate your time and that you're joining this conversation. Swg 12 00:00:35,935 --> 00:00:39,764 Speaker 1: three is a venue in Glasgow Scotland that embodies the 13 00:00:39,775 --> 00:00:43,485 Speaker 1: creative innovation that a green future calls for in your 14 00:00:43,494 --> 00:00:48,485 Speaker 1: conversations about sustainability. The phrase use what you have may 15 00:00:48,494 --> 00:00:50,955 Speaker 1: have come up. This call to action is a big 16 00:00:50,965 --> 00:00:52,604 Speaker 1: proponent of waste reduction 17 00:00:52,889 --> 00:00:57,069 Speaker 1: because it isn't dependent on more, right, more extraction, more emissions, 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,340 Speaker 1: more waste, which yeah, it can easily be put in 19 00:01:00,349 --> 00:01:04,220 Speaker 1: motion on an individual level. You don't have food containers 20 00:01:04,230 --> 00:01:07,149 Speaker 1: to store leftovers. Great. I'll just use old jars and 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,669 Speaker 1: old take out containers that I have ran out of rags. 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,699 Speaker 1: No problem. I'll cut up an old T shirt and 23 00:01:11,709 --> 00:01:14,309 Speaker 1: turn that into rags. But what does that look like 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,449 Speaker 1: for a venue though, especially one of Scotland's busiest venues 25 00:01:18,459 --> 00:01:20,430 Speaker 1: that welcomes 250 26 00:01:20,531 --> 00:01:26,030 Speaker 1: 1000 people year round. In 2021 swg three began their 27 00:01:26,041 --> 00:01:30,412 Speaker 1: substantial shift towards Net zero. They began measuring the carbon 28 00:01:30,421 --> 00:01:34,092 Speaker 1: footprint of their operation to better understand their environmental impact. 29 00:01:34,132 --> 00:01:37,431 Speaker 1: With that. They developed a baseline that allows them to 30 00:01:37,441 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: continuously move that sustainability needle as a business, they want 31 00:01:42,571 --> 00:01:45,641 Speaker 1: guests to keep dancing, they want to keep working and 32 00:01:45,652 --> 00:01:48,101 Speaker 1: have made it their mission to operate in a 33 00:01:48,564 --> 00:01:53,823 Speaker 1: manner that recognizes the climate crisis. By 2022 swg three 34 00:01:53,833 --> 00:01:57,484 Speaker 1: caught the world's attention by introducing a form of renewable 35 00:01:57,494 --> 00:02:01,153 Speaker 1: energy that no other venue had tapped into. They started 36 00:02:01,164 --> 00:02:05,073 Speaker 1: using the heat generated by all of the dancing fans. 37 00:02:05,083 --> 00:02:07,994 Speaker 1: Body heat. I remember reading about that here in Canada 38 00:02:08,002 --> 00:02:10,313 Speaker 1: and a being so jealous that it wasn't here. It 39 00:02:10,324 --> 00:02:13,154 Speaker 1: was all the way in Scotland and B being so 40 00:02:13,163 --> 00:02:15,714 Speaker 1: energized at the fun strides being 41 00:02:15,815 --> 00:02:19,686 Speaker 1: made for the environment. Body heat is just one of 42 00:02:19,695 --> 00:02:21,716 Speaker 1: the items on the very long and growing list of 43 00:02:21,725 --> 00:02:26,484 Speaker 1: systems in place that are getting swg three closer to 44 00:02:26,496 --> 00:02:29,865 Speaker 1: net zero. I'm so thrilled to introduce you to Hannah 45 00:02:29,876 --> 00:02:34,266 Speaker 1: George sustainability coordinator at SWG three who is here to 46 00:02:34,276 --> 00:02:38,115 Speaker 1: break down how exactly body heat works, what other green 47 00:02:38,126 --> 00:02:41,996 Speaker 1: practices are in place and what's next for SWG three's 48 00:02:42,005 --> 00:02:43,315 Speaker 1: sustainable journey. 49 00:02:43,699 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Here it is episode four of the sustainability and the 50 00:02:47,449 --> 00:02:51,020 Speaker 1: live music industry series on Earth Care with Hannah George. 51 00:02:51,850 --> 00:02:56,478 Speaker 1: Hannah George sustainability coordinator over at SWG three. How are 52 00:02:56,490 --> 00:02:57,789 Speaker 1: you doing? I'm good, 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,758 Speaker 2: thanks. Yeah, how are 54 00:02:58,770 --> 00:03:01,259 Speaker 1: you? I'm great. I, like I said, so excited, beyond 55 00:03:01,270 --> 00:03:03,508 Speaker 1: excited to be talking with you right now. Can you 56 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,220 Speaker 1: tell me as we get into it just to kick 57 00:03:05,229 --> 00:03:09,149 Speaker 1: it all off the back story on SWG three deciding 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,759 Speaker 1: to kickstart the journey to going to Net 59 00:03:11,770 --> 00:03:16,300 Speaker 2: Zero. Back in 2021 SWG three hosted the New York 60 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:19,630 Speaker 2: Times climate hub during COP 26. So that was, 61 00:03:19,714 --> 00:03:21,934 Speaker 2: it is a really big turning point for us. We 62 00:03:21,944 --> 00:03:24,363 Speaker 2: began to ask ourselves the question, you know, are we 63 00:03:24,373 --> 00:03:27,643 Speaker 2: doing enough for the environment? Yes, we're recycling. Yes, we're 64 00:03:27,654 --> 00:03:30,554 Speaker 2: trying to be energy efficient. But is that enough? And 65 00:03:30,563 --> 00:03:33,013 Speaker 2: I think the truth is we could always be doing more. 66 00:03:33,054 --> 00:03:36,533 Speaker 2: So that's when we decided to start our journey to 67 00:03:36,544 --> 00:03:39,283 Speaker 2: going Net zero and just looking at all aspects of 68 00:03:39,294 --> 00:03:41,923 Speaker 2: sustainability across the venue and across our events, 69 00:03:41,934 --> 00:03:43,694 Speaker 1: what is the capacity of the venue? 70 00:03:43,703 --> 00:03:47,494 Speaker 2: So we have four different venues within our venue. So, 71 00:03:47,578 --> 00:03:51,287 Speaker 2: so the largest is around 1500 the smallest is around 72 00:03:51,317 --> 00:03:54,476 Speaker 2: 100 and 25. So we can put on a huge 73 00:03:54,488 --> 00:03:56,397 Speaker 2: kind of range of events and there is a really 74 00:03:56,408 --> 00:03:59,587 Speaker 2: big diversity in the kind of events that we get 75 00:03:59,598 --> 00:04:00,608 Speaker 2: at the venue and 76 00:04:00,617 --> 00:04:02,888 Speaker 1: a lot of potential for waste for a venue that size. 77 00:04:02,897 --> 00:04:04,527 Speaker 1: That is a large number, right? So when you are 78 00:04:04,537 --> 00:04:06,848 Speaker 1: thinking about this transition, I am wondering what were some 79 00:04:06,858 --> 00:04:09,147 Speaker 1: of the roadblocks that or the hurdles that you had 80 00:04:09,158 --> 00:04:12,598 Speaker 1: to overcome to really start chipping away at this mission? 81 00:04:12,697 --> 00:04:15,348 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anyone who has tried to implement 82 00:04:15,632 --> 00:04:18,481 Speaker 2: will probably agree that one of the biggest hurdles is 83 00:04:18,492 --> 00:04:22,342 Speaker 2: behavior change. So it can be difficult to kind of 84 00:04:22,351 --> 00:04:26,182 Speaker 2: get people on board with change with sustainable change. That's 85 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:28,661 Speaker 2: kind of different to business as usual or what they 86 00:04:28,671 --> 00:04:31,432 Speaker 2: have expected when they've been to the venue before or 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,161 Speaker 2: other venues. So yeah, whether that's like a different recycling 88 00:04:34,171 --> 00:04:37,891 Speaker 2: system or reusable cup system, um it all kind of 89 00:04:37,902 --> 00:04:41,441 Speaker 2: takes a level of communication, but I think there's definitely 90 00:04:41,451 --> 00:04:43,221 Speaker 2: like a slow but certain change 91 00:04:43,466 --> 00:04:46,246 Speaker 2: in people's attitudes towards environmental issues and people are being 92 00:04:46,255 --> 00:04:49,226 Speaker 2: more open to these changes as they become more common 93 00:04:49,235 --> 00:04:51,656 Speaker 2: in other venues and around the place as well. Definitely 94 00:04:51,665 --> 00:04:53,216 Speaker 2: starting to see a shift in 95 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:56,536 Speaker 1: that, right? And communication plays such a major role and 96 00:04:56,545 --> 00:04:59,096 Speaker 1: you think about it for an event space, right? You 97 00:04:59,105 --> 00:05:02,126 Speaker 1: have to be communicating with your entire team, but also 98 00:05:02,455 --> 00:05:04,966 Speaker 1: the guests who are then coming and letting them know 99 00:05:04,976 --> 00:05:07,615 Speaker 1: about all of the new projects you have in place 100 00:05:07,626 --> 00:05:11,075 Speaker 1: like body heat, which was implemented in 2022. 101 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:15,190 Speaker 1: Can you walk me through this technology? How, what is it, 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,488 Speaker 1: how does it work? 103 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:17,570 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,140 Speaker 2: Body heat is a thermal heating and cooling system. Basically, 105 00:05:22,149 --> 00:05:25,940 Speaker 2: it allows us to harness body heat from club and 106 00:05:25,950 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: gig goers and guests attending our events. So essentially the 107 00:05:30,010 --> 00:05:33,100 Speaker 2: heat from our venues is transported using a carrier of 108 00:05:33,109 --> 00:05:36,209 Speaker 2: fluid through a closed network of pipes to heat pumps 109 00:05:36,220 --> 00:05:38,459 Speaker 2: in a plant room. And then that heat is then 110 00:05:38,470 --> 00:05:42,959 Speaker 2: stored 200 m underground in our 12 boreholes. And then 111 00:05:42,970 --> 00:05:44,630 Speaker 2: when that energy is ready to be used, 112 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,190 Speaker 2: it can travel back to the heat pumps where it's 113 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,109 Speaker 2: upgraded to a suitable temperature and then it's emitted back 114 00:05:50,119 --> 00:05:53,230 Speaker 2: into our spaces. So that was a very brief rundown. 115 00:05:53,238 --> 00:05:54,829 Speaker 2: But I hope that makes sense. 116 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Dancing is encouraged, sweaty is sustainable, you know, the sweatier, 117 00:05:58,890 --> 00:06:00,619 Speaker 1: the better is that what you're saying here? 118 00:06:00,630 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 2: Definitely. Yeah, we kind of realized like, I mean, anyone 119 00:06:03,928 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: who's been to a club will know how hot it 120 00:06:05,850 --> 00:06:08,660 Speaker 2: gets in there. Um So we, yeah, we just thought, 121 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:10,709 Speaker 2: let's see what we can do. How do we harness that, 122 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,420 Speaker 2: how we use it? 123 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:14,459 Speaker 1: I was laughing when I was uh doing some prep 124 00:06:14,470 --> 00:06:18,510 Speaker 1: for this interview because I read that you often get asked, 125 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:20,899 Speaker 1: does it smell and does 126 00:06:20,910 --> 00:06:23,470 Speaker 2: it? No, it doesn't. So all we're capturing is the heat. 127 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: We're not capturing the sweat or the smell or anything 128 00:06:25,928 --> 00:06:27,959 Speaker 2: like that. So yeah, actually it 129 00:06:27,970 --> 00:06:30,678 Speaker 1: doesn't smell. How long did this take to install? Because 130 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:32,969 Speaker 1: this sounds like a major project. Yeah, it 131 00:06:32,980 --> 00:06:35,488 Speaker 2: was so I wasn't actually sure when body heat was 132 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:38,049 Speaker 2: being implemented, but as a rough timeline, I think it 133 00:06:38,059 --> 00:06:40,750 Speaker 2: took around two years from kind of the initial idea 134 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:41,709 Speaker 2: to the installation. 135 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:44,619 Speaker 2: And this is very much a project that began during 136 00:06:44,630 --> 00:06:48,690 Speaker 2: lockdown when the venue wasn't able to operate. So, um 137 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: you know, we were thinking, what, what can we do 138 00:06:50,928 --> 00:06:53,868 Speaker 2: with this time? How can we work towards our sustainability goals? 139 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,630 Speaker 2: And it was kind of like a perfect opportunity to 140 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: focus on a much bigger project like this and that 141 00:06:58,769 --> 00:07:01,058 Speaker 2: required that time and resource. Wow, 142 00:07:01,070 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: turning lemons into lemonade for sure. 143 00:07:03,820 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: Was this the first of its kind, I've, I've never 144 00:07:06,488 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: read about anything like this. Yeah. 145 00:07:08,850 --> 00:07:11,519 Speaker 2: As far as we know, um this is the first 146 00:07:11,529 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: of this kind of system that's been implemented in a venue. 147 00:07:14,929 --> 00:07:17,380 Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is that it does use kind 148 00:07:17,390 --> 00:07:21,589 Speaker 2: of off the shelf technology. So it uses heat pumps 149 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: and it uses the kind of technology from geothermal storage 150 00:07:25,609 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: to store 151 00:07:26,109 --> 00:07:28,890 Speaker 2: that energy. So kind of putting different pieces of the 152 00:07:28,899 --> 00:07:31,130 Speaker 2: puzzle together to create something new. Wow, 153 00:07:31,140 --> 00:07:34,070 Speaker 1: that's super cool. Now, you also touched on the reusable 154 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:36,429 Speaker 1: cup system that you have in place and you know, 155 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,359 Speaker 1: for a venue of your size, I imagine there's a 156 00:07:39,369 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: lot of upkeep. What is that like for SWG three? 157 00:07:43,070 --> 00:07:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. So our reusable cup system um only kicked off 158 00:07:46,290 --> 00:07:48,328 Speaker 2: in December of last year. So it's pretty new. 159 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: But we've partnered with an amazing company called Stack Up 160 00:07:51,489 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: who basically help us with the logistics of the system. 161 00:07:54,609 --> 00:07:58,100 Speaker 2: So they've also implemented um a similar system in the 162 00:07:58,109 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: hydro which is a neighboring venue with 14,000 capacity. So 163 00:08:02,209 --> 00:08:03,470 Speaker 2: they definitely know what they're doing. 164 00:08:04,239 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think a lot of it comes down 165 00:08:05,890 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: to communicating again how the system works with our visitors 166 00:08:09,649 --> 00:08:13,029 Speaker 2: through social media and posters. And also making sure we 167 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,420 Speaker 2: have an effective cup collection system at the end of 168 00:08:15,429 --> 00:08:17,100 Speaker 2: the night. So we're gathering them all back in to 169 00:08:17,109 --> 00:08:18,179 Speaker 2: be reused. So 170 00:08:18,190 --> 00:08:19,779 Speaker 1: this is for everything you go up to the bar, 171 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:22,890 Speaker 1: you order your drink, whether it's whatever beer, uh cocktail 172 00:08:22,899 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: water and then it's given to the guest in a 173 00:08:25,769 --> 00:08:26,369 Speaker 1: reusable cup. 174 00:08:26,654 --> 00:08:29,364 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And are you guys looking after washing it 175 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:32,044 Speaker 1: or is it then given back to your partner that you, 176 00:08:32,085 --> 00:08:33,544 Speaker 1: that you mentioned that cup 177 00:08:33,554 --> 00:08:35,125 Speaker 2: will at the end of the night, take all the 178 00:08:35,135 --> 00:08:37,815 Speaker 2: cups away and wash them and return them. So, and 179 00:08:37,825 --> 00:08:40,474 Speaker 2: they're locally based. So yeah, it was a really great 180 00:08:40,484 --> 00:08:41,335 Speaker 2: kind of partnership, 181 00:08:41,344 --> 00:08:43,955 Speaker 1: right? So then you're working with the, you know, within 182 00:08:43,965 --> 00:08:48,484 Speaker 1: the economy too, for green initiatives, which is so important. 183 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:52,289 Speaker 1: I have to tell you about the water bottle that 184 00:08:52,299 --> 00:08:54,809 Speaker 1: I never leave my house without. This is the most 185 00:08:54,820 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: convenient reusable water bottle, it's collapsible. So when you aren't 186 00:08:58,570 --> 00:09:01,070 Speaker 1: using it, you squish it down into a little disk 187 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 1: size and put it in your pocket purse. Fanny pack. 188 00:09:04,250 --> 00:09:06,210 Speaker 1: Think about when you're traveling and you don't wanna take 189 00:09:06,219 --> 00:09:09,250 Speaker 1: up too much space in your luggage or hiking and 190 00:09:09,260 --> 00:09:11,580 Speaker 1: you don't want to carry around a heavy bag. This 191 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:15,049 Speaker 1: bottle is space saving, leak proof, ultra light. Then 192 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,181 Speaker 1: whenever you pass a water refill station, you expand it 193 00:09:18,192 --> 00:09:22,531 Speaker 1: hydrate for free and help reduce plastic bottle pollution. My 194 00:09:22,541 --> 00:09:24,442 Speaker 1: favorite place to bring it is concerts. I take it 195 00:09:24,452 --> 00:09:26,502 Speaker 1: with me to every show. As long as the venue 196 00:09:26,511 --> 00:09:29,581 Speaker 1: allows reusable water bottles, then fill it at the concert 197 00:09:29,591 --> 00:09:32,611 Speaker 1: for free. It's the best though because it's suitable with 198 00:09:32,622 --> 00:09:35,892 Speaker 1: venue regulation. It's so small that it fits in your 199 00:09:35,901 --> 00:09:39,541 Speaker 1: tiny bag, which is perfect since most venues only allow 200 00:09:39,693 --> 00:09:42,833 Speaker 1: small bags. Now check out the hideaway collapsible water bottle 201 00:09:42,843 --> 00:09:45,914 Speaker 1: in the show notes and use the discount code podcast 202 00:09:45,924 --> 00:09:50,943 Speaker 1: for 10% off your first purchase. What is the circular 203 00:09:50,953 --> 00:09:52,573 Speaker 1: swap shop? How does that work? 204 00:09:52,583 --> 00:09:54,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's another recent one. We're not just a 205 00:09:54,903 --> 00:09:58,973 Speaker 2: venue at SOG three. We also have 23 artist studios 206 00:09:58,984 --> 00:10:01,533 Speaker 2: on site. We kind of wanted to create a platform 207 00:10:01,544 --> 00:10:04,113 Speaker 2: for our resident artists to be able to like donate 208 00:10:04,356 --> 00:10:06,814 Speaker 2: and swap and sell items. So they have a lot 209 00:10:06,825 --> 00:10:10,335 Speaker 2: of art supplies, books and materials. So yeah, it's just 210 00:10:10,346 --> 00:10:12,556 Speaker 2: an online platform that we've created for them to kind 211 00:10:12,565 --> 00:10:15,155 Speaker 2: of be able to share things reduce waste and also 212 00:10:15,166 --> 00:10:17,166 Speaker 2: kind of contribute to the circular economy. 213 00:10:17,176 --> 00:10:19,835 Speaker 1: It sounds like the venue is just leading in that 214 00:10:19,846 --> 00:10:23,966 Speaker 1: conversation of a circular economy. What about the active travel initiative? 215 00:10:23,976 --> 00:10:24,236 Speaker 1: What's 216 00:10:24,245 --> 00:10:27,096 Speaker 2: that? Our active travel initiative is a strategy that we're 217 00:10:27,106 --> 00:10:28,685 Speaker 2: kind of in the process of developing, 218 00:10:28,890 --> 00:10:31,239 Speaker 2: to encourage our staff and audiences to travel to the 219 00:10:31,250 --> 00:10:33,709 Speaker 2: venue more sustainably. So it kind of began back in 220 00:10:33,719 --> 00:10:36,609 Speaker 2: 2022 when we carried out an audit of how our 221 00:10:36,619 --> 00:10:39,309 Speaker 2: staff travels to the venue and what those behavior patterns 222 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,710 Speaker 2: look like and kind of asked them, what would they 223 00:10:41,719 --> 00:10:44,010 Speaker 2: like to see what would encourage them to travel to 224 00:10:44,020 --> 00:10:46,130 Speaker 2: the venue more sustainably and a lot of that was 225 00:10:46,140 --> 00:10:48,750 Speaker 2: to do with um facilities. So this year, we're getting 226 00:10:48,799 --> 00:10:52,229 Speaker 2: much more cycle parking facilities installed and also looking at 227 00:10:52,239 --> 00:10:56,289 Speaker 2: ways to engage staff with cycling such as proficiency lessons 228 00:10:56,299 --> 00:10:56,669 Speaker 2: and bike 229 00:10:56,770 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: maintenance workshops. And then hopefully, if the staff program is successful, 230 00:11:00,289 --> 00:11:02,709 Speaker 2: we can start to expand some of these initiatives and 231 00:11:02,719 --> 00:11:03,699 Speaker 2: with our audiences as 232 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:05,789 Speaker 1: well. It really sounds like you're just part of such 233 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,169 Speaker 1: a bigger conversation and leading in so many ways, which 234 00:11:09,179 --> 00:11:13,419 Speaker 1: is just really encouraging and hopeful to see you're on 235 00:11:13,429 --> 00:11:16,809 Speaker 1: this journey to be net zero by 2050. What are 236 00:11:16,820 --> 00:11:19,890 Speaker 1: the goals do I have that correct? 2050 still? So 237 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: 2030 is our, is our goal that's kind of aligned 238 00:11:22,650 --> 00:11:24,549 Speaker 2: with the Glasgow City. Um 239 00:11:24,650 --> 00:11:26,450 Speaker 2: It's your target. So that's what we're aiming 240 00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:29,039 Speaker 1: for. So, one of the other goals by 2030 is 241 00:11:29,049 --> 00:11:32,329 Speaker 1: to be working with artists reducing their touring emissions. Has 242 00:11:32,340 --> 00:11:35,630 Speaker 1: that started yet? Have you had any artists come to you? For, 243 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:36,689 Speaker 1: in that aspect, we 244 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:39,309 Speaker 2: definitely are hearing more artists coming to us and you know, 245 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,109 Speaker 2: asking what our sustainability credentials are like, what are we doing? 246 00:11:42,119 --> 00:11:43,380 Speaker 2: But I think there's still a long way to go 247 00:11:43,390 --> 00:11:45,229 Speaker 2: with that. One of the things that we're doing this 248 00:11:45,239 --> 00:11:48,229 Speaker 2: year is we've put together a green events guide which 249 00:11:48,239 --> 00:11:51,239 Speaker 2: is being distributed to every single artist and event organizer 250 00:11:51,250 --> 00:11:52,390 Speaker 2: that comes into the venue. 251 00:11:52,530 --> 00:11:56,309 Speaker 2: So essentially this sets out the key areas for environmental consideration. 252 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,669 Speaker 2: So like waste energy, food production and kind of giving 253 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,150 Speaker 2: them tips on ways that they can reduce their environmental impact. 254 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:03,539 Speaker 2: How do you 255 00:12:03,549 --> 00:12:05,510 Speaker 1: handle the rider situation? Yeah. So 256 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,159 Speaker 2: this is kind of our first step in that. It's, 257 00:12:08,169 --> 00:12:12,020 Speaker 2: it's not something we're mandating, it's just suggestions starting that 258 00:12:12,030 --> 00:12:15,429 Speaker 2: conversation because I think that's what needs to happen first 259 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: and then eventually we'll maybe look at including that in 260 00:12:17,969 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: more of a formal rider for artists. 261 00:12:20,409 --> 00:12:23,349 Speaker 1: Have you had other clubs reach out to you and, 262 00:12:23,359 --> 00:12:26,510 Speaker 1: and other venues reach out to you trying to follow suit. Yeah. 263 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,330 Speaker 2: So we are really kind of connected with um other 264 00:12:29,340 --> 00:12:34,309 Speaker 2: venues um in the Glasgow scene, I guess. And So 265 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,070 Speaker 2: we work quite closely with the f concerts who um 266 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,579 Speaker 2: put on a huge range of uh concerts and events 267 00:12:39,729 --> 00:12:42,789 Speaker 2: and have their own sustainability strategy. So looking for ways to, 268 00:12:42,799 --> 00:12:46,799 Speaker 2: you know, align those things to link up with promoters 269 00:12:46,809 --> 00:12:48,189 Speaker 2: and other venues and 270 00:12:48,450 --> 00:12:51,299 Speaker 2: yeah, event organizers to find ways that we can collaborate 271 00:12:51,309 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: on this. Because I think that's, that's what this issue needs, 272 00:12:53,409 --> 00:12:56,109 Speaker 2: it needs kind of that cross sector collaboration. 273 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. All hands on deck and now that you've had 274 00:12:58,929 --> 00:13:03,390 Speaker 1: time to really spend in the sustainability space and see 275 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,510 Speaker 1: it be successful. What do you hope to see more 276 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: of moving forward from, you know, the live music industry? 277 00:13:09,409 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think more artists communicating with their audience. 278 00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: I think artists have such an influence. There's only so 279 00:13:16,330 --> 00:13:18,229 Speaker 2: much we can do as a venue. But I think 280 00:13:18,359 --> 00:13:21,469 Speaker 2: um if artists are communicating these issues to their audiences, 281 00:13:21,479 --> 00:13:24,289 Speaker 2: that could have a huge kind of ripple effect. So yeah, 282 00:13:24,299 --> 00:13:26,449 Speaker 2: I'd love to work with more artists um to see 283 00:13:26,460 --> 00:13:27,770 Speaker 2: what we can do to make change in the 284 00:13:27,780 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: industry. If I ever find myself in Glasgow swg three 285 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:34,409 Speaker 1: is gonna be the first stop on the travel bucket list. 286 00:13:34,419 --> 00:13:36,650 Speaker 1: Hannah George. Thank you so much for sharing your time 287 00:13:36,659 --> 00:13:37,530 Speaker 1: with Earth care. It's been 288 00:13:37,780 --> 00:13:41,118 Speaker 1: such a pleasure chatting with you. Thank you. How much 289 00:13:41,130 --> 00:13:43,539 Speaker 1: harder would you dance if you knew it was supporting 290 00:13:43,549 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: renewable energy? I can't get over how reassuring it is. 291 00:13:46,650 --> 00:13:50,750 Speaker 1: To learn that innovation like this is successfully in motion 292 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,989 Speaker 1: and it's such a populated place. The word we keep 293 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,010 Speaker 1: going back to in this series is community because that's 294 00:13:57,020 --> 00:14:01,630 Speaker 1: what live music effortlessly creates. Swg Three has organically welcomed 295 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,289 Speaker 1: a community of a 296 00:14:03,405 --> 00:14:06,645 Speaker 1: quarter of a million people annually who are celebrating live 297 00:14:06,655 --> 00:14:12,564 Speaker 1: events while simultaneously embracing green alternatives. The body heat technology 298 00:14:12,575 --> 00:14:17,104 Speaker 1: is such an ingenious creation that addresses the climate crisis 299 00:14:17,114 --> 00:14:19,724 Speaker 1: without interfering with the norm. You know, you still get 300 00:14:19,734 --> 00:14:21,875 Speaker 1: to go to the concert, you still get to dance. 301 00:14:22,054 --> 00:14:26,604 Speaker 1: In fact, it's encouraged, imagine how this technology could be used. 302 00:14:26,614 --> 00:14:28,945 Speaker 1: Not if but when it catches on 303 00:14:29,260 --> 00:14:34,500 Speaker 1: at other venues, gyms, hot yoga studios, schools the mall 304 00:14:34,510 --> 00:14:36,650 Speaker 1: during the holiday season, when you trekked in from the 305 00:14:36,659 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: back of the parking lot and your winter coat, if 306 00:14:39,010 --> 00:14:41,340 Speaker 1: you live somewhere that gets winter, you know, 307 00:14:42,109 --> 00:14:45,159 Speaker 1: the technology hasn't made its way to Canada yet, but 308 00:14:45,349 --> 00:14:48,250 Speaker 1: there are a ton of venues here in Canada, major 309 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:51,869 Speaker 1: ones too that allow guests to bring their own reusable 310 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,359 Speaker 1: water bottles, which is a really simple way to take 311 00:14:54,369 --> 00:14:57,150 Speaker 1: climate action. The fans choose to reuse pledge is a 312 00:14:57,159 --> 00:15:00,159 Speaker 1: call to action that I launched that encourages music lovers 313 00:15:00,169 --> 00:15:03,969 Speaker 1: and concert goers to bring a reusable water bottle to 314 00:15:03,979 --> 00:15:06,929 Speaker 1: live music events. Whenever the venue allows it, if you 315 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: choose to reuse, this is so great, 316 00:15:09,526 --> 00:15:13,426 Speaker 1: you can prevent up to 156 plastic bottles from being 317 00:15:13,435 --> 00:15:17,185 Speaker 1: discarded annually, which is important when you hear that 1 318 00:15:17,195 --> 00:15:20,085 Speaker 1: million bottles are purchased every minute. If you want to 319 00:15:20,096 --> 00:15:22,565 Speaker 1: learn more about the pledge, add your name, join that 320 00:15:22,575 --> 00:15:26,335 Speaker 1: community of music fans taking action. I'll include the link 321 00:15:26,346 --> 00:15:28,945 Speaker 1: in the show notes each episode. I promise to do 322 00:15:28,955 --> 00:15:30,866 Speaker 1: the research. So you don't have to and tell you 323 00:15:30,875 --> 00:15:33,715 Speaker 1: about more venues across the country that are cool with 324 00:15:33,726 --> 00:15:36,176 Speaker 1: personal bottles. This is all based on where you want 325 00:15:36,185 --> 00:15:36,866 Speaker 1: me to look though. 326 00:15:36,942 --> 00:15:40,460 Speaker 1: So keep messaging me about venues and cities. You're curious 327 00:15:40,471 --> 00:15:44,512 Speaker 1: about this week's message is from Luke and Edmonton who 328 00:15:44,521 --> 00:15:47,202 Speaker 1: said he saw Noah Khan at Roger's Place but wasn't 329 00:15:47,211 --> 00:15:49,401 Speaker 1: sure if he was allowed to bring his bottle. Not 330 00:15:49,411 --> 00:15:51,682 Speaker 1: only are you allowed to bring a reusable water bottle there, 331 00:15:51,692 --> 00:15:54,921 Speaker 1: Roger's Place is actually Lead certified, which is a green 332 00:15:54,932 --> 00:15:58,841 Speaker 1: certification and one of their other initiatives. This is so neat, 333 00:15:58,942 --> 00:16:02,882 Speaker 1: ensures prepared but unserved food from events is then donated 334 00:16:02,892 --> 00:16:04,242 Speaker 1: to the Edmonton Food Bank. 335 00:16:04,580 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: So, hey, cheers to reusing at the next concert you 336 00:16:07,530 --> 00:16:10,940 Speaker 1: go to if you've been enjoying the series so far, 337 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,239 Speaker 1: I invite you to leave a review rate. This podcast. 338 00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:18,239 Speaker 1: This really helps get the word out about the podcast 339 00:16:18,250 --> 00:16:21,140 Speaker 1: and then encourages new listeners. And if we've been learning 340 00:16:21,150 --> 00:16:24,869 Speaker 1: anything about this conversation, it's that we need as many 341 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: people as we can get in these climate conversations and 342 00:16:27,969 --> 00:16:29,669 Speaker 1: everyone is welcome to them. 343 00:16:30,059 --> 00:16:32,679 Speaker 1: I truly do appreciate you making time for this conversation. 344 00:16:32,690 --> 00:16:35,919 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining episode four of the 345 00:16:35,929 --> 00:16:38,969 Speaker 1: sustainability in the live music industry series on Earth Care. 346 00:16:39,250 --> 00:16:41,380 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sarah Christie. I'll talk to you next 347 00:16:41,390 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: week when actually, we're taking a deep dive into that 348 00:16:44,090 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: lead certification at Canada's largest Convention Center.