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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges

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Speaker 1: is recorded on. Hi. I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma

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Speaker 1: MIA's daily news podcast, The Quickie. And just before we

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Speaker 1: from six am. All right, crank up the heater, grab

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Speaker 1: your warmest jumper and hunker down. Australia, a polar blast

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Speaker 1: is upon many of us across the country right now,

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Speaker 1: and it's causing some of you to experience a phenomenon

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Speaker 1: known as seasonal effective disorder, whereas we most commonly refer

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Speaker 1: to it seasonal depression. Today we find out if there's

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Speaker 1: anything we can do to combat the feelings of sadness

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Speaker 1: that come with the colder, darker days of winter, and

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Speaker 1: whether those gadgets were being marketed actually work. But first,

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Speaker 1: here's the Laters from the Quickie newsroom. Tuesday, July sixteen,

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Speaker 1: just days after an assassination at tempt on former President

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, a judge in Florida, has dismissed the classified

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Speaker 1: District Judge Eileen Cannon, who was appointed to the bench

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Speaker 1: by Trump when he was president, ruled that Special counsel

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith, who's leading the prosecution, was unlawfully appointed to

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Speaker 1: the role and did not have the authority to bring

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Speaker 1: the case. She found that US Attorney General Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 1: kind of prosecutorial power. Smith is also leading the case

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Speaker 1: against Trump in Washington that accused him of trying to

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Speaker 1: challenged by the recent U. S. Supreme Court ruling that

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Speaker 1: he cannot be prosecuted for actions that were within his

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Speaker 1: first time any form of presidential immunity from prosecution. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Trump is attending the Republican National Convention, where he's chosen

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Speaker 1: nova member announcing Ohio Senator JD Vance as his running mate.

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Speaker 1: King Charles has written to Donald Trump in the wake

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Speaker 1: The private message is believed to be similar to the

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Speaker 1: one written by new Prime Minister Kirstamer, in which he

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Speaker 1: condemns the violence. The King also expressing his condolences for

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Speaker 1: the victims and their family, wishing Trump and the two

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Speaker 1: others who were critically injured a quick recovery. Meanwhile, a

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Speaker 1: small issue of concern was raised. The issue itself was

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Speaker 1: Luke Perry's daughter has paid tribute to her late father's

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Speaker 1: The twenty four year old shared a black and white

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Speaker 1: It's also been revealed that Doherty had been struggling through

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the world today. Next, are you

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Speaker 1: on your mental health. Northern Exposure was an iconic TV

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Speaker 1: So this week might be pulling at that sad feeling

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Speaker 1: the best news for those who've been feeling a sense

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Speaker 1: Is it that decrease in natural light exposure during wind

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Speaker 2: daily hours of sunlight. And also there is alternative hypothesis

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Speaker 1: So is that impacting our levels of melatonin?

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Speaker 2: Well, there is research about that, but still we need

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Speaker 2: seemed to be related with melatonin and other neurotrunser in debray.

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Speaker 1: Do we have a handle then on who might be

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Speaker 1: most affected by seasonal effective disorder? Is it genetic? Is

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Speaker 2: like predisposition for seasonal changes in modern behavior run among families.

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Speaker 1: Can we look at the symptoms of SAD which is

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Speaker 1: not funny but kind of funny acronym for seasonal effective disorder.

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Speaker 1: Do we take this kind of depression as seriously as

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Speaker 1: we would take someone who's depressed but not affected seasonally

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Speaker 1: by it? Is it that serious?

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Speaker 2: Well, it is serious, but we consider that it's particularly

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Speaker 2: are accustomed to these symptoms, or we don't know exactly

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Speaker 2: what is happening. That's why we would like to do

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Speaker 2: more research, but it seems like it's not taken seriously,

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Speaker 2: or it's on the recognized or something is happening. But

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Speaker 2: definitely it is at the present disorder needs to be

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Speaker 2: treated as such.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the treatments. It seems like you

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Speaker 1: could buy like a thousand gadgets that claim to help

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Speaker 1: treat seasonal effective disorder, one of those being of course,

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Speaker 1: light therapy. Is that actually something that is worthwhile exploring

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Speaker 1: buying these little light gadgets that supposedly mimic natural line.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, around the world there is evidence that the

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Speaker 2: bright light therapy works. There are different recommendations, but for example,

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Speaker 2: in Australia it is recommended as a first line of treatment.

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Speaker 2: There is a suggestion that should be treated as a

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Speaker 2: usual depression. It can be with psychotherapy. It can be

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Speaker 2: also UNTI the presence there is another contributing factors to

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Speaker 1: Just finally, do we need to look out for ourselves

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Speaker 1: in the lead up to these months too? I was

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Speaker 1: reading that seasonal effective disorder might start to kick in,

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Speaker 1: maybe even before winter arise, like in autumn, when we're

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Speaker 1: transitioning away from those warmer months into that cooler stage

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Speaker 1: of the year that people already start to experience symptoms.

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Speaker 1: Do we need to look out for ourselves even earlier

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Speaker 2: Well, I believe yes, definitely. If something is changing, we

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Speaker 2: need to pay attention to that because basically, symptoms change

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Speaker 2: your functionality, so that means people change from previous functioning.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe they notice the change, maybe their family

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Speaker 2: noted to change, and that's key in the diagnosis because

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Speaker 2: if they feel like sad and that's it, but nothing

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Speaker 2: else changes, well maybe it's just like you know, the

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Speaker 2: winter blows that people say. But if the activities change,

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Speaker 2: the functionality change, then something else is happening. So we

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Speaker 2: need to be aware of those symptoms and we need

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Speaker 2: to be aware of these changes in the behavior. If

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Speaker 2: we acknowledge the presence of the symptoms, this can lead

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Speaker 2: to prove treatment and this can have a significant life

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Speaker 2: change in consequences in the line of people.

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Speaker 1: There are a ton of gadgets that claim to help

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Speaker 1: those suffering from sad from wake up lights that simulate

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Speaker 1: a sunrise led light bulbs that are closer to the

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Speaker 1: light from the sun minus damaging UV light therapy lamps,

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Speaker 1: and it's up to you to try these out to

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Speaker 1: see if they work for you. But as always, if

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Speaker 1: you can see that you're suffering from any of the

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Speaker 1: your GP or therapist and get on top of that

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Speaker 1: seasonal depression and bring on summer. The quickie is produced

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Speaker 1: by me Claire Murphy and our senior producer Taelestrano, with

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Speaker 1: audio production by Tom Lyin

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Speaker 4: All Mo