WEBVTT - A Forensic Analysis of Meghan Markle’s Announcement 0:00:10.622 --> 0:00:13.382 You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 0:00:13.822 --> 0:00:17.182 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:17.222 --> 0:00:21.222 that this podcast is recorded on. My concern is that 0:00:21.302 --> 0:00:23.662 Megan Markl becomes the boy who cried jam. 0:00:23.741 --> 0:00:25.262 No. That is a real concern. 0:00:25.582 --> 0:00:28.662 Yeah, because you can't just keep sending people jam and 0:00:28.702 --> 0:00:31.142 expecting them to spreuk it. You've already used. 0:00:31.222 --> 0:00:32.702 She didn't mention dog treats either. 0:00:33.062 --> 0:00:34.782 I think it's going to be dog treats. I reckon 0:00:34.822 --> 0:00:36.821 it's going to be scented candles. I think we're going 0:00:36.862 --> 0:00:43.982 to have a tetowel and a fancy class. Welcome to 0:00:44.102 --> 0:00:47.222 MoMA mea out loud what women are actually talking about? 0:00:47.262 --> 0:00:50.982 On Wednesday, the nineteenth of February. I am Jesse. 0:00:50.902 --> 0:00:53.582 Stevens, I'm mea Friedman, and Holly. 0:00:53.302 --> 0:00:56.502 Is away this week, which means Amelia Lester, you are 0:00:56.542 --> 0:01:00.502 here again. Hello on the show today. A moment's silence 0:01:00.582 --> 0:01:05.941 for Megan Markles American Riviera Orchard We hardly knew, an announcement, 0:01:06.222 --> 0:01:09.862 an Instagram reel and a new brand. Did Meghan pull 0:01:09.941 --> 0:01:14.022 off an epic relaunch? May I do not answer it? Plus? 0:01:14.182 --> 0:01:16.262 Is it a did you don't know? 0:01:16.342 --> 0:01:19.822 There's no suspense. Plus is Elon Musk using his kids 0:01:19.822 --> 0:01:23.622 as props? And if so why? And open marriages are out. 0:01:23.662 --> 0:01:27.782 Affairs are in the essay making people rethink non monogamy. 0:01:27.982 --> 0:01:29.941 But first, Amelia, in. 0:01:29.902 --> 0:01:34.182 Case you missed it, America is divorcing Europe on Valentine's Day, 0:01:34.222 --> 0:01:37.182 no less. Donald Trump's vice president J. D. Vance gave 0:01:37.222 --> 0:01:40.222 this speech in Germany, which left European leaders, who were 0:01:40.222 --> 0:01:45.102 normally a pretty blase brunch, open mouthed, slack jawed, not applauding. 0:01:45.382 --> 0:01:48.822 You came in having read this to our early morning 0:01:48.862 --> 0:01:51.062 planning meeting a little bit shaky. 0:01:51.302 --> 0:01:52.862 I was literally shaky. 0:01:52.662 --> 0:01:57.022 Little unsettled. I'm sort of blithely ignorant of Well, I've. 0:01:56.862 --> 0:01:59.222 Seen the headlines, but can you tell me why? Because 0:01:59.302 --> 0:02:02.302 they were literally in shock after they heard his speech. 0:02:02.542 --> 0:02:06.462 Yes, they were in shock. So what did he say? Well, 0:02:06.542 --> 0:02:09.221 for one, he said, everyone needs to relax about Nazis. 0:02:09.582 --> 0:02:11.061 Let's listen to a grab now. 0:02:11.102 --> 0:02:15.502 Again. We don't have to agree with everything or anything 0:02:15.621 --> 0:02:20.182 that people say, but when people represent, when political leaders 0:02:20.262 --> 0:02:24.222 represent an important constituency, it is incumbent upon us to 0:02:24.342 --> 0:02:27.382 at least participate in dialogue with them. 0:02:27.502 --> 0:02:29.222 An important constituency. 0:02:29.502 --> 0:02:31.942 Yeah, that's not what is the Nazis. 0:02:32.022 --> 0:02:34.542 So this is really the next level of Trump's. Some 0:02:34.742 --> 0:02:35.982 of them are very nice people. 0:02:36.382 --> 0:02:38.062 Yeah. So you have to know the context for this, 0:02:38.102 --> 0:02:40.742 which is at the weekend before this speech, Vance met 0:02:40.742 --> 0:02:44.982 with representatives of Germany's AfD party. This is a far 0:02:45.102 --> 0:02:47.622 right party which some describe as neo Nazi, and for 0:02:47.662 --> 0:02:51.382 good reason, its leaders have been convicted for using Nazi 0:02:51.422 --> 0:02:54.422 slogans a political rallies, and they've also said that not 0:02:54.542 --> 0:02:56.302 all SS leaders were bad guys. 0:02:56.502 --> 0:02:57.501 Is it the German election? 0:02:57.942 --> 0:03:00.822 Yes, iminently to day is the German election, and the 0:03:00.902 --> 0:03:04.142 AfD is actually second in the polls. It looks like 0:03:04.181 --> 0:03:07.222 it's going to have its strongest showing ever. But what's 0:03:07.222 --> 0:03:11.102 interesting is how Germany responded. So the German Chancellor Olf 0:03:11.181 --> 0:03:15.102 Schultz got up afterwards and he gave this speech. He said, basically, 0:03:15.222 --> 0:03:17.702 not on my watch. He said that Germany has committed 0:03:17.782 --> 0:03:21.342 to never again returning to fascism and the Holocaust, and 0:03:21.382 --> 0:03:24.062 that the laws that Germany has restricting hate speech that 0:03:24.142 --> 0:03:28.742 Vance was referring to ensure that that commitment is upheld. 0:03:28.782 --> 0:03:30.822 He said that they're not going to work with the AAFD. 0:03:30.982 --> 0:03:33.582 There's some talk about whether or not the AfD is 0:03:33.622 --> 0:03:35.862 going to be part of the government coalition, after all, 0:03:35.902 --> 0:03:38.342 they are tracking second in the polls. But all the 0:03:38.382 --> 0:03:40.542 other mainstream parties in Germany have said no, they're not 0:03:40.582 --> 0:03:43.542 going to work with the AfD, and Schultz, in response 0:03:43.542 --> 0:03:46.062 to Vance, said, I'm holding the line. We are going 0:03:46.102 --> 0:03:48.022 to make sure that Nazis do not end up in 0:03:48.062 --> 0:03:54.182 the German parliament again. Now do you see why I 0:03:54.222 --> 0:03:55.142 was shaky on Monday? 0:03:55.422 --> 0:03:56.062 Yeah, And the. 0:03:56.022 --> 0:03:59.142 Problem is Vance is forty by the way, he's really young. 0:03:59.622 --> 0:04:01.862 So a lot of the European leaders there was reporting 0:04:01.902 --> 0:04:04.662 afterwards that part of what shocked them is that Trump 0:04:04.822 --> 0:04:07.462 is an old man and you can likely write him 0:04:07.502 --> 0:04:09.782 off as he's a little kookie. He's going to leave 0:04:09.822 --> 0:04:10.622 the world stage. 0:04:10.702 --> 0:04:13.302 He also doesn't believe in anything other than Trump, like 0:04:13.342 --> 0:04:16.622 he has no real ideology, which is just I'm going 0:04:16.662 --> 0:04:19.861 to be really populars so everyone loves me because I'm 0:04:20.022 --> 0:04:21.022 the biggest, strongest. 0:04:21.262 --> 0:04:23.741 Can I ask what JD. Vance is doing in Germany? Like, 0:04:23.822 --> 0:04:25.222 what does he have to do with any of this? 0:04:25.541 --> 0:04:27.902 Oh, he was in Germany because there's this thing called 0:04:27.902 --> 0:04:30.981 the Munich Security Conference, which is where European leaders get 0:04:31.022 --> 0:04:33.541 together to talk about how to help Ukraine and other 0:04:33.662 --> 0:04:36.822 security issues, none of which Vance talked about in the speech. 0:04:36.941 --> 0:04:38.622 And this is the kind of stuff that Trump wouldn't 0:04:38.621 --> 0:04:40.061 want to do because he would think that it would 0:04:40.101 --> 0:04:42.022 be boring. Yes, so do you think this is how 0:04:42.022 --> 0:04:42.501 it's going to go? 0:04:42.702 --> 0:04:45.101 The diet coach are smaller in Europe, so that would 0:04:45.101 --> 0:04:46.741 be another reason why he doesn't want to travel there. 0:04:47.022 --> 0:04:49.541 The other thing is that Elon Musk went to an 0:04:49.541 --> 0:04:51.662 AfD rally. I don't know if you saw that via 0:04:51.782 --> 0:04:52.342 video link. 0:04:53.621 --> 0:04:58.421 Right, Okay, kats out of the bag. 0:04:58.501 --> 0:05:00.501 I'm shocked we've kept this a secret for so long. 0:05:00.541 --> 0:05:03.101 In two weeks, my show is coming out, which I'm 0:05:03.142 --> 0:05:06.702 so excited for, and also my business, which I think 0:05:06.741 --> 0:05:10.261 there's been a lot of curiosity about. Last year, I 0:05:10.301 --> 0:05:12.261 had thought, you know what American Revier. That sounds like 0:05:12.301 --> 0:05:14.981 such a great name. It's my neighborhood. It's a nickname 0:05:15.022 --> 0:05:17.941 for Santa Barbara, but it limited me to things that 0:05:17.941 --> 0:05:20.861 were just manufactured. 0:05:20.181 --> 0:05:21.822 And grown in this area. 0:05:21.902 --> 0:05:24.782 Then Netflix came on, not just as my partner in 0:05:24.861 --> 0:05:28.022 the show, but as my partner in my business, which 0:05:28.061 --> 0:05:28.541 was huge. 0:05:28.662 --> 0:05:29.662 So I thought about it. 0:05:29.582 --> 0:05:31.981 And I've been waiting for a moment to share a 0:05:32.061 --> 0:05:34.902 name that I'd secured in twenty twenty two, and this 0:05:34.941 --> 0:05:36.702 is the moment. And it's called as Ever. 0:05:36.941 --> 0:05:38.702 As Ever essentially means. 0:05:38.462 --> 0:05:40.822 As it's always been. And if you followed me since 0:05:40.861 --> 0:05:43.462 twenty fourteen with the Tig, you know I've always loved 0:05:43.501 --> 0:05:45.822 cooking and crafting and gardening. This is what I do 0:05:45.981 --> 0:05:47.421 and I haven't been able to share it with you 0:05:47.541 --> 0:05:49.501 in the same way for the past few years, but 0:05:49.541 --> 0:05:51.901 now I can, so as things are starting to trickle 0:05:51.941 --> 0:05:53.702 out there, I wanted you to hear it from me first. 0:05:53.861 --> 0:05:56.021 Of course, there will be fruit preserves. 0:05:56.061 --> 0:05:57.941 I think we're all clear at this point that jam 0:05:57.981 --> 0:06:00.061 is my jam, but there's so many more products that 0:06:00.142 --> 0:06:01.861 I just love that I use in my home, and 0:06:01.902 --> 0:06:03.461 now it's time to share it with you, so I 0:06:03.462 --> 0:06:04.381 can't wait for you to see it. 0:06:04.421 --> 0:06:07.342 Thanks guys, if you have been waiting for pots of 0:06:07.421 --> 0:06:11.501 Jam by American Riviera Orchard, we have terrible news because 0:06:11.541 --> 0:06:15.541 Megan Markle yesterday announced a new identity for her lifestyle brand, 0:06:15.941 --> 0:06:17.382 now called as Ever. 0:06:17.582 --> 0:06:19.981 She shouldn't need me labels, she is going to need 0:06:20.061 --> 0:06:20.382 new like. 0:06:21.101 --> 0:06:24.342 Pour Out some strawberry jam from American revera orchard. 0:06:24.582 --> 0:06:27.902 If you have a Google alert set for American Riviera orchard, 0:06:28.061 --> 0:06:31.582 which mayor does, you'll know that the trademark was rejected 0:06:31.621 --> 0:06:34.262 last year as one cannot have exclusive rights to the 0:06:34.342 --> 0:06:37.302 name of a place. An American reviewer an orchard or 0:06:37.301 --> 0:06:40.381 an orchard. American Riviera is a commonly used place name 0:06:40.421 --> 0:06:43.502 to describe Santa Barbara, where she lives with Harry. There 0:06:43.501 --> 0:06:47.462 were other issues, apparently the o in the logo didn't 0:06:47.462 --> 0:06:50.341 look enough like a letter, and something about other food 0:06:50.381 --> 0:06:52.861 companies saying the name was too similar to theirs, which 0:06:52.902 --> 0:06:56.741 I don't think is that uncommon. Interestingly, American commentator and 0:06:56.821 --> 0:07:01.301 Royal reporter Kinsey Schofield said in October last year. She 0:07:01.381 --> 0:07:03.861 said that there were rumors that Netflix has said, allow 0:07:03.981 --> 0:07:07.101 us to manage the retail strategy if you can't find 0:07:07.142 --> 0:07:09.862 a CEO or somebody willing to work with you. They 0:07:09.941 --> 0:07:13.662 said this to Megan, and Netflix saw an opportunity there. 0:07:13.821 --> 0:07:16.141 And it's just interesting because that's exactly what has happened. 0:07:16.222 --> 0:07:17.942 Netflix so true, I'd forgotten about it. 0:07:17.862 --> 0:07:20.862 Has come on board as a partner. Meya. Meghan says 0:07:20.902 --> 0:07:24.862 the original name meant she was limited to things that 0:07:24.941 --> 0:07:27.462 she would have to manufacture and grow in the American 0:07:27.542 --> 0:07:30.142 riviera orchard. Do you buy it? 0:07:30.462 --> 0:07:32.862 I think it's great spin. I think it's really good spin. 0:07:32.941 --> 0:07:36.542 I think what I took away from this video is 0:07:36.582 --> 0:07:41.581 that Megan is picking up her influencing exactly where she 0:07:41.702 --> 0:07:46.062 left off around twenty fifteen twenty sixteen when she shut 0:07:46.142 --> 0:07:50.982 down the TIG and when social media and influencing really changed. 0:07:51.062 --> 0:07:52.942 And none of this is a disc at all because 0:07:52.982 --> 0:07:55.021 I know that I'm sort of the one on the 0:07:55.022 --> 0:07:57.702 show that's considered to be anti Meghan. I'm not at all. 0:07:57.742 --> 0:08:01.062 But my observation as to why people often or why 0:08:01.102 --> 0:08:03.982 people in the last few weeks have found this stuff 0:08:04.782 --> 0:08:06.822 it sort of feels a little bit out of step, 0:08:07.262 --> 0:08:10.422 and some people say it doesn't feel authentic or it 0:08:10.462 --> 0:08:13.581 feels fake. The more modern way to do it in 0:08:13.622 --> 0:08:16.782 the TikTok era is to be like a little bit 0:08:16.821 --> 0:08:19.422 like Ryan Reynolds at Saturday Night Live. I don't know 0:08:19.422 --> 0:08:22.062 if you've seen the fiftieth Birthday celebrations and he was 0:08:22.062 --> 0:08:24.782 in the audience. It's like Lively and Tina Fay and 0:08:24.821 --> 0:08:28.102 Amy Poehler were like, hey, Ryan, Reynolds in the audience 0:08:28.102 --> 0:08:30.422 and they're like, hey, Ryan, how you doing, And he's like, 0:08:30.462 --> 0:08:31.662 why what have you heard. 0:08:31.742 --> 0:08:33.982 Which, to be clear, is just as manufactured. 0:08:34.182 --> 0:08:37.462 Oh yeah, totally, But it's not pretending that everything that 0:08:37.502 --> 0:08:41.542 everybody knows it's not gaslighting, and it's owning it and 0:08:41.582 --> 0:08:44.222 being honest about like he was making funny, is it. 0:08:44.182 --> 0:08:46.662 Gas lighting or is it someone don't we get to 0:08:46.702 --> 0:08:50.142 tell our own stories about copyright issues? Well, like what 0:08:50.302 --> 0:08:51.342 out of basic human right? 0:08:51.502 --> 0:08:54.022 She can do whatever she wants. But I'm just saying 0:08:54.062 --> 0:08:58.942 that if I was advising her, it would be just go, yeah, 0:08:58.982 --> 0:09:01.182 you know, you might have heard a few copyright issues. 0:09:01.262 --> 0:09:05.782 Turns out American Riviera very popular. Luckily, back in twenty 0:09:05.822 --> 0:09:08.982 twenty two, I reserved another name because thinking about the 0:09:09.062 --> 0:09:11.422 name for a and can be quite hard. So on 0:09:11.462 --> 0:09:14.462 my short list was as ever, and here's why it's 0:09:14.462 --> 0:09:15.822 actually going to be even better. 0:09:16.062 --> 0:09:18.342 Also, to me his point, there were so many edits 0:09:18.382 --> 0:09:22.022 in that. So she kept in the start where Harry, 0:09:22.062 --> 0:09:24.182 of course says I've turned the camera on away, which is. 0:09:24.182 --> 0:09:26.222 Weird because it's selfimotes. So it's like, why would. 0:09:25.982 --> 0:09:29.502 Which was that was all very calculous and That's what 0:09:29.542 --> 0:09:32.662 I mean. People see through those tricks. Now. Ten years 0:09:32.662 --> 0:09:35.262 ago they would have been seen to be charming, or 0:09:35.262 --> 0:09:38.102 people wouldn't have picked up on them. But we've moved 0:09:38.142 --> 0:09:41.622 on and influencing his moved on, and because of TikTok 0:09:41.902 --> 0:09:45.142 and the desire for authenticity, we've also moved past the 0:09:45.182 --> 0:09:49.542 faux authenticity. They're oh so grateful. Oh my god, you guys, 0:09:49.542 --> 0:09:54.542 can you believe Netflix? You know, like all that feels disingenuous, 0:09:54.702 --> 0:09:57.702 Whereas I think the criticism of Meganofen is that she 0:09:57.862 --> 0:09:59.822 just can't have a laugh at herself. 0:10:00.062 --> 0:10:01.982 She said, Jam is her jam. That was very funny. 0:10:02.662 --> 0:10:03.822 Did you make that was funny? 0:10:03.942 --> 0:10:05.902 So, first of all, I want to make an observation 0:10:05.982 --> 0:10:08.622 about the name as Ever. I had a boss once 0:10:08.742 --> 0:10:12.502 who was a real famous, good writer, and this boss 0:10:12.662 --> 0:10:16.382 advised me to always sign my emails as Ever because 0:10:16.422 --> 0:10:19.822 he explained to me that whether you mean to diss 0:10:19.902 --> 0:10:23.182 someone or to say I still hate you, or to 0:10:23.262 --> 0:10:26.582 say you still annoy me, as Ever is the ultimate 0:10:26.622 --> 0:10:30.822 way to just be authentic to yourself but still appear 0:10:30.862 --> 0:10:32.662 polite to everyone you write to. 0:10:32.902 --> 0:10:34.862 It's a great name. I think it's so much better 0:10:34.902 --> 0:10:35.862 than America. 0:10:36.742 --> 0:10:38.582 Like as ever, fuck you yes exactly. 0:10:39.382 --> 0:10:41.862 The second thing I noticed about this name change is 0:10:41.862 --> 0:10:45.182 that there was some reporting by Puck recently about how 0:10:45.422 --> 0:10:48.022 Flamingo a state which is actually started by an Australian 0:10:48.062 --> 0:10:50.382 man named Richard Christensen and which I believe is sold 0:10:50.382 --> 0:10:53.302 in Mecca here in Australia, which spaced out of LA 0:10:53.502 --> 0:10:56.102 There was some reporting that Megan had asked to work 0:10:56.142 --> 0:10:59.261 with Richard on jams and to sort of collaborate, and 0:10:59.542 --> 0:11:01.742 that he had said that he didn't want to do that. 0:11:01.862 --> 0:11:04.182 So that's why she went off to start her own company. 0:11:04.302 --> 0:11:05.382 Is He a beauty brand? 0:11:05.662 --> 0:11:08.782 It started with soaps and candles right and now has 0:11:08.822 --> 0:11:11.902 moved into, among other things, jams, rose, et cetera. It's 0:11:11.902 --> 0:11:13.142 sort of a lifestyle. 0:11:12.702 --> 0:11:15.022 Brand, which I assume and not sold a Meca unlesson's 0:11:15.062 --> 0:11:17.702 been a while, and stuff in in Mecca. 0:11:17.102 --> 0:11:19.822 And so I think that by changing it to as Eva, 0:11:19.862 --> 0:11:22.382 she's we know that Megan's hyper sensitive to what people 0:11:22.422 --> 0:11:24.902 are saying about her online. I'm sure she tracks that's 0:11:24.942 --> 0:11:28.502 understandable in her course, and didn't like the idea that 0:11:28.542 --> 0:11:30.862 she was being reported as kind of a copycat or 0:11:30.862 --> 0:11:33.462 someone who was spurned from a collaboration, so started her 0:11:33.502 --> 0:11:35.462 own thing as ever is moving it away from that 0:11:35.542 --> 0:11:39.102 idea of a lifestyle brand rooted in place that he does, 0:11:39.222 --> 0:11:41.462 and it's more making it into more of a generic 0:11:41.542 --> 0:11:42.702 influencer brand. 0:11:42.542 --> 0:11:45.822 To any better. And it also says classic, right. I 0:11:45.822 --> 0:11:48.862 think her style is generally very classic. You know, she's 0:11:48.902 --> 0:11:52.302 in her white shirt, her simple necklace, her blue jeans. 0:11:52.582 --> 0:11:54.502 I think that is really true to her. Giving how 0:11:54.542 --> 0:11:56.902 she debuted on the World Stages. She remembers she went 0:11:56.942 --> 0:11:59.382 to that event with Harry wearing blue jeans and a 0:11:59.422 --> 0:12:02.782 white shirt, and that's her classic signature. 0:12:02.982 --> 0:12:04.222 Yeah, I want to give her a bit. 0:12:04.142 --> 0:12:06.702 More credit because people are saying I've seen the word 0:12:06.942 --> 0:12:10.182 gas lighting thrown around, which is, we know what happened, 0:12:10.182 --> 0:12:12.142 we know what happened with a copyright, and you're pretending 0:12:12.182 --> 0:12:14.582 like it didn't. I think this is a case of 0:12:14.622 --> 0:12:16.702 two things can be true, like, yes, there was the 0:12:16.742 --> 0:12:20.182 whole copyright issue, but she also might have looked at 0:12:20.222 --> 0:12:22.742 all the back and forth and gone, this isn't worth it. 0:12:22.782 --> 0:12:25.662 I can't say a very long name. 0:12:25.942 --> 0:12:28.422 Yeah, she rethought it, which I had this yesterday. I 0:12:28.462 --> 0:12:31.022 wrote a tagline for a podcast and we worked out 0:12:31.022 --> 0:12:33.462 that there was something incredibly wrong with it, and I 0:12:33.502 --> 0:12:34.702 was like, great, so we pivot. 0:12:34.742 --> 0:12:37.381 Oh no, totally. But my point is to take people 0:12:37.422 --> 0:12:40.622 along with you. What people expect now is pulling back 0:12:40.662 --> 0:12:44.422 the curtain, but in a real way, not going you know. So, 0:12:44.542 --> 0:12:46.302 here's why I changed it. And you're right, that could 0:12:46.302 --> 0:12:47.782 have been part of the reason that she changed it. 0:12:47.822 --> 0:12:49.182 But everybody knows about the track. 0:12:49.222 --> 0:12:51.422 I think we've heard story A and she's like, I'm 0:12:51.462 --> 0:12:54.022 just gonna throw story bas out there. This is my 0:12:54.102 --> 0:12:56.902 concern because she did. Let's not forget that she did 0:12:56.942 --> 0:13:00.782 send the jams out already. She sent the American reviewer. 0:13:00.622 --> 0:13:03.422 Richard Tigue and had them and she on bacon. 0:13:03.782 --> 0:13:05.822 Yeah, and is she going to be My concern is 0:13:05.862 --> 0:13:08.462 that Megan Mirkal becomes the boy who cried Jen No. 0:13:08.622 --> 0:13:11.902 That is a real yeah, because you can't just keep 0:13:12.342 --> 0:13:14.982 sending people jam and expecting them to spruk it. You've 0:13:14.982 --> 0:13:15.862 already used. 0:13:15.902 --> 0:13:17.382 She didn't mention dog treats either. 0:13:17.742 --> 0:13:19.462 I think it's going to be dog treats. I reckon 0:13:19.502 --> 0:13:21.502 it's going to be scented candles. I think we're going 0:13:21.542 --> 0:13:23.062 to have a tetwel and a fancy bas. 0:13:23.182 --> 0:13:25.502 We're not far away from learning what it is. I 0:13:25.542 --> 0:13:30.182 was slightly surprised about the Netflix connection, even though very 0:13:30.182 --> 0:13:30.742 good research. 0:13:31.342 --> 0:13:34.462 So Netflix is launching. I did some reading on it. 0:13:34.462 --> 0:13:37.382 It's like an Amazon storefront, like it's launching a shop. 0:13:38.182 --> 0:13:39.262 You were like, shoppable. 0:13:39.462 --> 0:13:40.862 That's really clever. 0:13:40.982 --> 0:13:42.822 So it'll also get all the affiliate links. 0:13:42.942 --> 0:13:43.142 Yeah. 0:13:43.462 --> 0:13:46.822 Smart. And you know she said word has been leaking out. 0:13:46.862 --> 0:13:49.142 I hadn't heard any words, so I think props to 0:13:49.182 --> 0:13:51.502 her for getting ahead of the new song. 0:13:51.662 --> 0:13:54.062 Apparently a news outlet was going to publish that she 0:13:54.222 --> 0:13:56.982 changed the name, so she was kind of forced into 0:13:57.022 --> 0:13:57.662 it a little bit. 0:13:57.902 --> 0:14:00.462 I liked the euphemism of the century, which was there's 0:14:00.502 --> 0:14:02.062 been a lot of curiosity about my. 0:14:01.982 --> 0:14:03.582 Business, a lot of people asking. 0:14:03.342 --> 0:14:05.542 A lot of asking, like are they asking or are 0:14:05.542 --> 0:14:08.462 they smearing you? In every publication in the entire world. 0:14:08.462 --> 0:14:10.782 But me, I think you're onto something with the idea 0:14:10.902 --> 0:14:14.342 that social media changed in the intervening years when she 0:14:14.462 --> 0:14:16.102 was off it, and it's sort of like, you know 0:14:16.142 --> 0:14:19.622 how people say that your persona is crystallized at the 0:14:19.622 --> 0:14:22.902 time you became famous. At the time she became famous, 0:14:23.062 --> 0:14:27.262 we were doing Instagram grids and CPR shots of a 0:14:27.342 --> 0:14:28.862 vocado toast and latte art. 0:14:29.102 --> 0:14:31.502 That was what we were doing, yes, and putting little 0:14:31.502 --> 0:14:32.342 flowers in ice school. 0:14:32.342 --> 0:14:34.582 Maybe it's some matchra if we were adventurous, but that 0:14:34.822 --> 0:14:36.582 was the vibe back then, and you could call this 0:14:36.742 --> 0:14:39.702 kind of like Instagram grid pr It feels like we've 0:14:39.742 --> 0:14:42.702 moved on to something much looser, and she's trying the 0:14:42.782 --> 0:14:45.182 loose with the Harry kicking off the video, but then 0:14:45.222 --> 0:14:45.982 you got the editing. 0:14:46.142 --> 0:14:49.022 Yeah, that doesn't want We've also done not just looser, 0:14:49.102 --> 0:14:52.062 but also even Gwyneth Paltrow, who started with look at 0:14:52.102 --> 0:14:56.382 my expensive things, she has to sell these candle smells 0:14:56.382 --> 0:14:56.942 like a vagina. 0:14:57.102 --> 0:14:59.102 She now sells skincaret Target Yeah, and. 0:14:59.022 --> 0:15:02.382 Steaming vaginas because it wasn't enough for her to just 0:15:02.422 --> 0:15:03.062 be fancy. 0:15:03.702 --> 0:15:06.702 She doesn't sell steaming vaginas, I don't think. 0:15:06.382 --> 0:15:08.262 But hot steaming vaginas. 0:15:08.702 --> 0:15:09.742 That is a gap in the mine. 0:15:09.862 --> 0:15:10.062 Yeah. 0:15:10.062 --> 0:15:14.102 Come in a moment, why Elon Musk is suddenly covered 0:15:14.142 --> 0:15:17.222 in kids and the woman who regrets her open marriage 0:15:17.262 --> 0:15:19.342 and says she should have just had an affair instead. 0:15:19.502 --> 0:15:21.062 We discuss after the breaking. 0:15:26.782 --> 0:15:28.982 Every day is take your kids to work day at 0:15:28.982 --> 0:15:31.702 the White House. These days, you've probably seen the pictures 0:15:31.742 --> 0:15:34.662 of Elon Musks striding through the corridors of power in 0:15:34.782 --> 0:15:37.262 Washington with a four year old on his shoulders. 0:15:37.302 --> 0:15:39.542 I have seen that. And also you've been sending me 0:15:39.622 --> 0:15:43.982 links about a conservative influencer who's having his like twenty 0:15:43.982 --> 0:15:44.422 to fifteen. 0:15:44.462 --> 0:15:47.022 I'm obsessed and you're ignoring my lengths and that's hurtful. 0:15:47.102 --> 0:15:49.302 So now I'm going to sit here and explain the 0:15:49.342 --> 0:15:51.502 story to you, okay, while you have no choice in 0:15:51.542 --> 0:15:54.502 the matter. So the kid that Elon is carrying around 0:15:54.702 --> 0:15:58.262 on his shoulders is named Actually, I think we better 0:15:58.302 --> 0:15:59.662 hear from Elon himself on the name. 0:15:59.942 --> 0:16:03.302 I mean, it's just X, the letter X and then 0:16:03.982 --> 0:16:10.542 the AE is pronounced ash. Yeah. Twelve is my contribution. 0:16:10.942 --> 0:16:14.502 Oh y twelve Archangel twelve, the precursor to the s 0:16:14.582 --> 0:16:16.222 R seventy one, coolest plain ever. 0:16:17.222 --> 0:16:20.382 So some people shouldn't be about to make more children 0:16:20.502 --> 0:16:21.022 more visually. 0:16:21.062 --> 0:16:23.462 I only just realized that when he was jumping around 0:16:23.542 --> 0:16:26.662 with Trump on stage during the election campaign, that was 0:16:26.702 --> 0:16:29.622 to create the X shape with his jump. Did you 0:16:29.662 --> 0:16:33.302 realize that now? And it took our entire production staff 0:16:33.302 --> 0:16:35.222 here to nut out their names and ages today and 0:16:35.222 --> 0:16:37.582 we're still not quite sure we've got them straight. Just 0:16:37.582 --> 0:16:40.462 this week, there's been another child announced. Ashley Saint Clair, 0:16:40.742 --> 0:16:43.862 who was a twenty six year old conservative influencer and author, 0:16:44.382 --> 0:16:47.462 said she had masks Baby earlier this year and that 0:16:47.542 --> 0:16:50.142 he has now ghosted her. This is what is no 0:16:50.182 --> 0:16:53.102 one in the business as a leopard face eating situation. 0:16:53.622 --> 0:16:54.582 I've never heard that. 0:16:55.582 --> 0:16:58.382 It means you might think leopards are glorious creatures and 0:16:58.502 --> 0:17:01.702 very dignified and elegant and beautiful, but one day, one day, 0:17:01.702 --> 0:17:03.062 they're going to eat your face. 0:17:02.902 --> 0:17:04.502 And I'll get you close you and they're going to 0:17:04.542 --> 0:17:05.141 eat your face. 0:17:05.581 --> 0:17:08.422 So Ashley and Elon are now squabbling on X the 0:17:08.502 --> 0:17:12.142 social media platform, not the child. Moving back to ex 0:17:12.182 --> 0:17:15.022 achild Ex, a child is in the White House acting 0:17:15.022 --> 0:17:17.821 in all sorts of age appropriate ways, and he also 0:17:17.861 --> 0:17:19.421 appears to have been doing things that a lot of 0:17:19.462 --> 0:17:22.341 world leaders might like to do, like he did appear 0:17:22.341 --> 0:17:25.221 to tell Donald Trump to shush your mouth, and he 0:17:25.262 --> 0:17:27.782 also wiped his snot on Trump's desk. 0:17:28.581 --> 0:17:29.462 So I like him. 0:17:29.502 --> 0:17:30.061 I like him. 0:17:30.381 --> 0:17:33.022 Ex is being a normal kid. That's not up for discussion. 0:17:33.061 --> 0:17:34.981 What I want to talk about today is the adults 0:17:35.061 --> 0:17:37.942 behavior in this Why is Musk doing this and how 0:17:37.982 --> 0:17:41.741 should we feel about it? In The Guardian, Awa Madawi 0:17:41.782 --> 0:17:45.022 had some theories about what she called Musk's pr strategy, 0:17:45.141 --> 0:17:47.581 and she wrote she didn't find it cute. She said, 0:17:47.661 --> 0:17:49.901 having a kid on your shoulders makes you seem less 0:17:49.942 --> 0:17:52.341 like a robber baron with a weird breeding fetish and 0:17:52.462 --> 0:17:54.661 more like a fun dad. But this is what I 0:17:54.661 --> 0:17:56.222 want to bring to you. Could it be a good 0:17:56.262 --> 0:17:59.261 thing to normalize children in all areas of life and 0:17:59.302 --> 0:18:02.262 to highlight look, dads also have to juggle work with parenting. 0:18:02.861 --> 0:18:05.542 And didn't we all celebrate Jacinda when she became the 0:18:05.581 --> 0:18:07.861 first world leader to attend the you in General Assembly 0:18:07.982 --> 0:18:08.662 with a baby? 0:18:08.861 --> 0:18:11.061 Remember how to Sindra Ardun was an elected official. I 0:18:11.141 --> 0:18:13.982 know that was a totally different point. Oh yeah, that yeah. 0:18:14.022 --> 0:18:17.141 That he has referred to X his child. This is 0:18:17.182 --> 0:18:19.982 a quote from Musk as a cuteness prop He's used 0:18:19.982 --> 0:18:23.581