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Speaker 1: From MoMA Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop

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Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and.

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Speaker 2: I'm Anita A. Swarren and coming up on the show today.

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Speaker 1: Lots to discuss that's been bubbling up over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days. Robert Pattinson and Zendeya are wrapping up

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Speaker 1: their drama tour, but there's so much drama happening behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes.

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Speaker 3: Lots of jokes.

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Speaker 1: About that, Yeah, lots to jump into there, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: also a petition against Megan Markle and Prince Harry coming

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Speaker 1: to Australia. The couple have responded and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to read in between the lines of that.

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Speaker 3: So we're getting into that.

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Speaker 1: But first, just taking us back to the end of

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Speaker 1: last week and a certain pop star attending a certain

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Speaker 1: award show.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and all through the weekend, my feed was all

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, which isn't unusual, but it

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Speaker 2: wasn't the usual edits of them to love story. It

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Speaker 2: was because they went to the artist.

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Speaker 3: In your feed a lot of the time. Weirdly, Yes,

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Speaker 3: because I've.

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Speaker 1: Been very under the radar since she put out Life

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Speaker 1: of a Show Girl, and like the football.

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Speaker 3: That's a sporty place.

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Speaker 1: The football season is also not happening now, so they

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Speaker 1: have been very under the radar.

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Speaker 2: They've got some gaps in the calendar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm sure they're wedding planning because that's happening

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Speaker 1: this year. But she in particular is very strategic with that.

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Speaker 1: She comes out with a big burst of publicity and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, she's everywhere, even if she's going

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Speaker 1: to dinner, and then she disappears for a few months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she sort of SLINKs back to a little songwriting

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Speaker 2: cave where she's baking her muffins and things like that.

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Speaker 2: But she did bring Travis Kelsey to the iHeartRadio Music Awards,

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Speaker 2: which is their awards show debut together, which doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: like it is because we've seen them at so many

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Speaker 2: public things, but this is her first, like official awards

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Speaker 2: show debut.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and a lot of people were thinking, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you do that for the Grammys or anything else.

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Speaker 1: But she has a long history with iHeart. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she's their most awarded artist in history, but that's not

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Speaker 1: hard to be But iHeart was the first radio network,

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Speaker 1: or in one of the very first big radio networks

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Speaker 1: that committed to exclusively only playing her re releases her

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Speaker 1: Taylor's version when she was going through trying to get

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Speaker 1: her master's back. So the girl has an intense sense

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Speaker 1: of loyalty. Like I will say that about her.

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Speaker 3: She does.

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Speaker 2: I do rate that. And she was nominated for nine awards,

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Speaker 2: she won seven, including Artists of the Year, and she

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Speaker 2: did this really great speech. She was sort of telling

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Speaker 2: young people to pursue their craft, really about how she

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Speaker 2: spent hours and hours playing guitar and that's how she

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Speaker 2: became such a good songwriter. But that's not what everyone's

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Speaker 2: talking about. I feel like the two things people are

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Speaker 2: what she was wearing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sign With what she was wearing, people were really

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Speaker 1: ripping it apart, which I guess always happens with any

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Speaker 1: of her looks at an award show, or to be honest,

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Speaker 1: any of her looks just going out to dinner, like

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Speaker 1: people always have really big opinions. But she was wearing

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Speaker 1: a mint green two piece, a few kind of sparkle

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Speaker 1: encrusted like very Taylor Swift. She had a full fringe

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Speaker 1: but also like a side fringe going on and none

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Speaker 1: of hers signature red lip or cat eye, like very

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Speaker 1: soft makeup. Basically, she was in Life of a show

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Speaker 1: Girl kind of colours because she had that green and

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Speaker 1: then the peachy makeup to go with it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the top was it was a custom Jackson

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Speaker 2: wieder Hoft and it was like a Corsett kind of top.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought she looked a little bit like a mermaid.

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Speaker 2: And then she had the half up, half down hair.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people were saying it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: she's teasing debut because it was sort of also those

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Speaker 2: and things like that. And in octob with the twentieth

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Speaker 2: anniversary of when she put out her debut album, so

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Speaker 2: everyone's like, Taylor's version's coming. I don't know, I agree

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Speaker 2: with you. It was Life of a Showgirl colors as well,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, she does like to announce things

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Speaker 1: album was the time, she was wearing that clock necklace

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Speaker 1: and so at the time, So she does like to

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Speaker 3: Her next release is going to be.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, because she didn't re release her

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Speaker 1: Reputation album because she's like, I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: kin and she owns her masters.

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Speaker 2: Now exactly, so there's no real point with.

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Speaker 3: The other releases.

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Speaker 1: She did say she felt she could approve upon them,

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Speaker 1: she had something else to say.

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Speaker 2: And she had the songs from the vault as well

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Speaker 2: that she would release. But I do think fans now,

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Speaker 2: just at every awards, who were like, what is she teasing?

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Speaker 3: What is she using?

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Speaker 1: Because she's built that up so it's kind of it's

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Speaker 1: part of the fun, Like that's the fun she has

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Speaker 1: back and forth with the fans. But yeah, people were

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Speaker 1: ripping her look and saying that she looks like too

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Speaker 1: old school PRINCESSI, that she's got bad style, that they

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Speaker 1: found it quite boring. Some people were saying that they

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Speaker 1: were very happy she didn't have the red lip and

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Speaker 1: the cat eye. It's that same conversation that always bubbles

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Speaker 1: up around Taylor Swift of like why doesn't she wear

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Speaker 1: more designer pieces, Why isn't she more high fashion? Why

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Speaker 1: is she Sometimes people think she dresses ugly on purpose,

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Speaker 1: But it's that whole thing of like she's so aware

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Speaker 1: herself look even though she is like so otherworldly and unattainable.

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Speaker 1: Everything about her life is unattainable, but she'd always dresses

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Speaker 3: And I think she's very aware of that.

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Speaker 2: She really wants to be relatable so badly, even though

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Speaker 2: she's probably the least relatable person.

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Speaker 1: Really still comes across as relatable. That's always her trick,

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Speaker 1: and she always comes across as like relatable, kind and

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Speaker 1: sometimes even an underdog when she's one of most powerful

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Speaker 2: What did you think of the outbit? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I liked it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have never sort of disliked Taylor Swift's fashion.

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Speaker 1: This is why I'm just not a fashion girl at all.

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Speaker 1: Like this is why, again she looks relatable. Is when

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Speaker 1: people talk about how bad her fashion is, I can't

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Speaker 1: see it. I was like, I think she looks nice

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Speaker 1: and she looks pretty. I love a full friend in

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Speaker 1: if I was that rich and like that kind of

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Speaker 2: She also doesn't have to dress for the spectacle like

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Speaker 1: And it's so interesting to me that she's still got

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Speaker 1: the same stylist that she had when she first started out,

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Speaker 2: I love when people do that, like Zendea as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she has the real loyalty, but Zendea has little.

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Speaker 1: Roach that's a bit different. It's a whole and here's

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Speaker 1: think also maybe like she's not looking to dress for trends,

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Speaker 1: as we said, she's looking to dress to send a message.

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Speaker 1: And her and Travis Kelsey were being crazy loved up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I was gonna say, what did you think of

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Speaker 2: how they were behaving because I mean, obviously there was

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Speaker 2: a fair amount of PDA. That's kind of their way.

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Speaker 2: She did her awards show dancy thing, which she always does,

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Speaker 2: and he got in on it and they had that

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Speaker 2: where the Hell's my Husband's song moment?

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh, when they when that lyric where the

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Speaker 1: Hell's my husband? And she turned to him and pointed

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Speaker 1: at her engagement ring. But the thing is that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love tales.

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Speaker 3: If you know I love it.

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Speaker 1: Is the most cringey thing you will ever see. But

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Speaker 1: she pulls it off. But that's her thing at award

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Speaker 1: shows because I think she knows it. No matter who's

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Speaker 1: to always and she said this publicly. She finds it

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Speaker 1: really strange when you're at an award show and she

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Speaker 1: And her thought is, you're at the best concert in

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Speaker 1: show about her. Yeah, But what she's trying to do,

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Speaker 1: at least in her words, what she's trying to do

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Speaker 1: I'm like putting herself in a fan situation of like

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Speaker 1: I'm up on my feet, I'm singing along, I'm dancing

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Speaker 1: to your music because I like your music. And also

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Speaker 1: credit to her, she knows the every lyric of every

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like she's genuinely listening. And also I

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Speaker 1: But that is actually quite cute because I remember her saying, like,

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Speaker 1: before she got together Travis Kelcey, she just wanted to

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Speaker 1: like have someone she'd go to Coachella with, but she's like,

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Speaker 1: I can't do that because her and Joe album was

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Speaker 1: so private, she was so famous. And then when they

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Speaker 1: Coachella just like dancing together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there are all these comments this time with Travis,

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Speaker 2: people being like she found her fellow Awards show dance buddy, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. I mean, they really didn't let

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Speaker 2: go of each other's hands all night when they were

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Speaker 2: walking around. It's like he's going behind they still holding

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Speaker 2: her hand. Then she shouted him out in her speech

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Speaker 2: and he mouthed that I love you back to her.

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Speaker 2: So it's all so cute, so cute, But to be fair,

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Speaker 2: in my head, I was like, oh, this is a

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Speaker 2: little bit cringe. But then I was also thinking I

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Speaker 2: have friends who have had engagement periods who aren't celebrities,

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Speaker 2: and in the lead up to their wedding they have

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Speaker 2: also done all.

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Speaker 1: The oh exactly, And also, like her bread and butter

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Speaker 1: is cringe. And I don't say that in a bad way.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that she embraces cringe and that's what's

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Speaker 1: built up her kind of fandom around her.

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Speaker 2: So fair enough, And this is the love story she's

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Speaker 2: been waiting for. I mean, this is like I didn't

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Speaker 3: They're the ones that have.

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Speaker 1: Like sued publications for misinformation about her. A whole point

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Speaker 3: So I actually think it's a fair enough statement for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it does feel like such a stark difference

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Speaker 1: That's my caveat for seeing Megan Markle. As I said

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Speaker 1: See them like catch them on the ferry to like

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Speaker 3: Sure afterwards she'll share a few.

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Speaker 1: That girl loves Instagram, an old fool Instagram pup. I

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Speaker 1: take it of Bondaie Like I've already know the picks

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Speaker 2: She's just a classic tourist, I exactly.

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Speaker 1: So that's where right now they've responded. Their official statement

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a few weeks to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exciting. Someone please get me a ticket at my

441
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Speaker 1: own room. So a very notable press tour is coming

442
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Speaker 1: to an end. Well this week I think they have

443
00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,280
Speaker 1: one or two events, which is Zendeia and Rob Pattinson,

444
00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,880
Speaker 1: our new favorite acting duo, because the drama is coming

445
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,480
Speaker 1: out this week. I feel like We've been talking about

446
00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,960
Speaker 1: this movie for such a long time.

447
00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,680
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like I saw the trailer for

448
00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 2: this literally an age ago, and I'm so excited to

449
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,800
Speaker 2: watch it. I know you've seen it. I haven't yet.

450
00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm avoiding spoilers at all costs.

451
00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would say as much as you can.

452
00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,960
Speaker 1: Everyone don't, like, don't look at anything, don't open links,

453
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,320
Speaker 1: don't watch videos, don't search for it, don't respond.

454
00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,200
Speaker 2: To your friends this week, because who knows what they're feeling.

455
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:07,600
Speaker 3: I haven't.

456
00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,199
Speaker 1: So many people have said to me, just tell me

457
00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,680
Speaker 1: the twist, and I've told no one.

458
00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,720
Speaker 3: No, because you can't. I don't like everybody.

459
00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,119
Speaker 1: Want to hear twenty four, just because I had to

460
00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,440
Speaker 1: sign an Nda in blood to be able to see

461
00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,520
Speaker 1: the movie, and so I haven't even told my friends

462
00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,679
Speaker 1: who've asked me what the twist is.

463
00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,760
Speaker 2: Because that's the good of art. That's like, yeah, experience

464
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,520
Speaker 2: that well exactly.

465
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, you have to go into like

466
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Speaker 1: with an open mind. But the press tour has been

467
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,439
Speaker 1: winding down, and I think overall it's been very successful

468
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Speaker 1: for Zendea and Rob until this week. But we'll get

469
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Speaker 1: to that in a moment. So obviously with Zendea, she

470
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,639
Speaker 1: was in an interesting spot because it's ninety nine percent

471
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Speaker 1: sure that she has married Tom Holland is kind of

472
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Speaker 1: the vibe we're getting all they're going to get married soon.

473
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Speaker 1: But I kind of do think the wedding has happened.

474
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Speaker 1: What do you think?

475
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Speaker 3: Do you think Lroach was telling the truth?

476
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Speaker 2: I think so because I don't really see the reason

477
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Speaker 2: to lie.

478
00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he would just lie for some headlines,

479
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,840
Speaker 1: like he just loves to mess with reporters and say

480
00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,359
Speaker 1: stuff like that.

481
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Speaker 2: But I wonder what Zendea's vibe on that would be,

482
00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,639
Speaker 2: or she'd be like, just go for your life, do

483
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,520
Speaker 2: whatever you want. But I reckon they are married.

484
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,200
Speaker 1: But also Zendea's mom shared the clip of Laureate saying

485
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: that but with a laughing face. Was she was she

486
00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,800
Speaker 1: laughing because like, hah, we kept the wedding secret, or

487
00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,760
Speaker 1: was she laughing like ha ha, this man's being crazy.

488
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Speaker 3: They're not married.

489
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Speaker 2: I was like, hah, you'll never know.

490
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Speaker 3: Well, I actually think it's that one.

491
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Speaker 1: The thing is we actually will never know. I don't

492
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Speaker 1: imagine them ever coming out and saying like.

493
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Speaker 2: Unless they do get married at a later date and

494
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Speaker 2: somehow photos from that get leaked. That would be the

495
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Speaker 2: only way I.

496
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Speaker 1: Think they're so private when never like they're so careful

497
00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,440
Speaker 1: with that sort of stuff. As we say with celebrities,

498
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,400
Speaker 1: like if you don't want stuff to get leaked, most

499
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,240
Speaker 1: of the time, you can stop it. But she actually

500
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Speaker 1: I thought she did like a really interesting She's so

501
00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,719
Speaker 1: well media trained and so kind of just across what

502
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,920
Speaker 1: she needs to say, because she walked so many red

503
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Speaker 1: carpets and did so many events and talked to so

504
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,480
Speaker 1: many journalists who were all asking her very like veiled

505
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,320
Speaker 1: wedding questions, like obviously because she plays a bride in

506
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Speaker 1: the movie. But they were all trying to get information

507
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,920
Speaker 1: even though they would have been told no questions about

508
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Speaker 1: the wedding, so they had to sort of like ask

509
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Speaker 1: her like, oh, I'm getting married soon, what advice do

510
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Speaker 1: you have for me? And she was so quick. She's

511
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 1: always like well as Emma, who's like her character in

512
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 1: the movie. I would say blah blah blah, so that

513
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 1: she didn't allude to anything.

514
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:06,359
Speaker 3: I know.

515
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 2: I feel like the closest she got was talking about

516
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 2: marriage and things like that very conceptually. So she did

517
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 2: say like the closest I saw her get to where

518
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,920
Speaker 2: it sort of sounded like she was talking about herself,

519
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 2: was how she thinks, you know, you really need people

520
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 2: who seem like best friends. It's always nice to see

521
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 2: two people who like each other as much as they

522
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 2: love each other. But it's still very topic even.

523
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Speaker 1: That she linked to the movie because she says as

524
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Speaker 1: Emma like that's what she because obviously people are still

525
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 1: rong with that about her trying to give something about

526
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: her relationship, but yeah, it was it was an interesting

527
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Speaker 1: way to do it, and also maybe her getting married

528
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 1: also up to the ante with people being like desperate

529
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,439
Speaker 1: to look at her premiere outfits and desperate to hear

530
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 1: what she had to say. And the premiere roll out

531
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Speaker 1: with the dresses was really interesting because obviously she's such

532
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Speaker 1: a theme dresser. Her in law wrote are really big

533
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Speaker 1: on doing that for all her red carpets and like

534
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Speaker 1: pulling out these looks, and prior to coming into this

535
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 1: press too, I did wonder if like she's just gonna

536
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Speaker 1: wear like a different wedding style dress to each one,

537
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: but obviously they're smarter than that. So the first one

538
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,400
Speaker 1: was something old, which was her original Oscars dress something new,

539
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: which was I think a customed Louis Vuitton gown, something borrowed,

540
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: which was Cape Blanchette's black dress that she has reworn

541
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Speaker 1: multiple times on the red carpet, and she borrowed it

542
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: directly from Cape blanchet because she owns it. And then

543
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 1: I think there's one more red carpet to go, so

544
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Speaker 1: it should be something blue.

545
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 2: I know, I'm excited to see what it is. I

546
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 2: really like that theme. I think it's so much more

547
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: interesting than just doing various versions of wedding dresses.

548
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Speaker 3: And this is why I'm not a stylist.

549
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's many reasons, but I would have just

550
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Speaker 1: been like, hey, let's just wear a wedding dress to

551
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Speaker 1: each one. The other interesting thing, while she is walking

552
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Speaker 1: red carpets looking so chic in her borrowed and new

553
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: and something borrowed something blue kind of looks is that

554
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 1: she's with Robin Pattinson, who just on a press tour

555
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Speaker 1: is a really something to behold.

556
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Speaker 2: He is a wild little nugget. I mean, we've talked

557
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 2: about how he just lies.

558
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is, like Zendia did say as

559
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Speaker 1: they were starting their press to it, I talked to her.

560
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: Host said to her, like, you know, Rob's a compulsive liar,

561
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, I know, she's.

562
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 2: Only just sitting there like okay, Rob. Like the number

563
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: of things he's lied about. We obviously all know about

564
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Speaker 2: how he talked about when he was doing water for

565
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Speaker 2: elephants the Pressed tour that he saw a clown die

566
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Speaker 2: in a car collision when he went to the circus,

567
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Speaker 2: and then at a later date he was like, no,

568
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Speaker 2: that was completely fabricated.

569
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Speaker 3: I just had no fambricated.

570
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Speaker 2: He's like, I've just never been to the circus. It

571
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: just made something up. I'm like, you got to stick

572
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: to the lyre.

573
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Speaker 3: No.

574
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Speaker 1: It's so funny how years later he just distance himselves

575
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Speaker 1: from the lie. Yeah, they're like, have you been to

576
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: a circus? He's like, yeah, the clown died like little

577
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: car exploded. And also like lying about not washing his hair,

578
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: which might have been true. Maybe he said he was

579
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: expelled from school for helping to save snails, but his

580
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: Wikipedia's page says he was expelled from school for stealing

581
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: porno magazines.

582
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Speaker 3: What's the truth, I know?

583
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: And then he's got really random ones that he was

584
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 2: a woman's hand model for jewelry because he has really

585
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 2: androgynous hands. He also said that he sold sawdust as

586
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 2: drugs at school.

587
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Speaker 3: Anything this meant really not.

588
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Speaker 1: I think his mum was a talent agent, like a

589
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: modeling agent, so he might have been doing some hand modeling.

590
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: But he Yeah, he always has like something ready to go.

591
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: Remember when he did that interview with a with a

592
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Speaker 1: journalist that went for like nearly two days, and he

593
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: was saying that he was trying to invent a.

594
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Speaker 3: Part esme this.

595
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: It was like the pasta burger or something like the

596
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: past burger, but you could eat pasta like straight from

597
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: your hands.

598
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: He was like, it's such a great idea.

599
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, you know how you can just

600
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: grab a burger and run down the road and eat it.

601
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 1: And he's like, that's all we need to do, pasted up.

602
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 1: We need a pastor you can grab and just eat

603
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: from your hands, and then his microwave exploded during the interview.

604
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Speaker 2: I don't think we need to see Rob Pattinson.

605
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: I feel liked.

606
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: When he told Jennifer Lopez in that Variety Actors on

607
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: Actors that he is dying to be in a ballet

608
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: movie because he feels like there's a ballerina living inside

609
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: of him.

610
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 3: Like he thinks he smells like a crayon.

611
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: I think he has looked crayon, like in this press tour,

612
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: something about his face.

613
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: Like that's so true.

614
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: What did you think about his recent one of like

615
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: no one was team Jacob, that was a marketing tool.

616
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: As you know, I have very strong feelings.

617
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because you're such a Twilight girl.

618
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 2: Listen to our brittally honest of Twilight, because we did

619
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: one for the twentieth anniversary. I've always said, and you said,

620
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Speaker 2: this is the worst thing I've ever told you that

621
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: my mind was with Edward and my body was with Jacob,

622
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: because I think that was so I don't know if

623
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: he's just playing. I see what he means, like Edward

624
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: was always the choice, but he can't deny Jacob was hot.

625
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: That is the worst thing you've ever said. And he

626
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: said twice, which is the whole thing. So what his skills?

627
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting that we just know all those

628
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: things off the tour by hand. Neither of us looked

629
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: at our notes that whole thing, like, what else are we.

630
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: Doing with our life?

631
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just everything every lie Robert Pattinson has ever

632
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: told is burnt into my brain, And he's actually so

633
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: clever because you know, the reason he does that on

634
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 1: a press to her is that he is so strict

635
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: about never talking about his personal life because especially he

636
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: got burnt so badly when Twilight really took off.

637
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: It became this intense.

638
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: Worldwide obsession, and especially because he was dating Christian Stewart

639
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: at the time, there was a particular spotlight on their

640
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: relationship and how they behave, and they were really hit

641
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: with questions. I mean, I don't feel overly sorry for

642
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: them because you know, the rich movie stars in a

643
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: huge blockbuster franchise, but you know, I can it did

644
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: take a turn for the worst. And then also when

645
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: those photos came out of Christian Stewart hooking up with

646
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: her snow White direct the car, and that was, yeah,

647
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: my god, those photos. That is one of the few

648
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: times you're like, oh not literally, no one knew that

649
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: paparazzi was there. Those photos are just crazy and such

650
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: a vulnerable, awful thing, and that got blasted. And then

651
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: Christian Stewart put out that which is so unlike either

652
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: of like Robert Pattinson or Christian Stewart to put out

653
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: such a public statement where she was like, what did

654
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: you say? I'm so sorry, and then she's like to Robert,

655
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you, I love you, I'm sorry.

656
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: As a public statement, it felt.

657
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: Very like this is an actual direct message to him,

658
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: and he's not text or something like that, so you

659
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: had to put it out as a statement.

660
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: And then that really blow up.

661
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 1: And I just remember paparazzi following them so intensely, but

662
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: both of them, but particularly him because everyone wanted that

663
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: broken shot of him. And when he did Press two

664
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: is later on or he did red carpets, people would

665
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: try and weaving questions and like photographers would shout things

666
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: from the street, not the professional photography on the red carpet.

667
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: I just there was such a difference between people who

668
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: are on the red carpet and people who were just

669
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: following people through the streets shouting things about Christian cheating

670
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: on him to get a reaction out of him. And

671
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: now I think that he's just He does strike me

672
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: as someone who loves making movies but doesn't quite love

673
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: all the fandom that comes with it, whereas some people

674
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: like I think someone like Zendea does also quite like

675
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: the celebrity aspect of it, like the dresses and the

676
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: interviews and the events and things. And so I think

677
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: what he's really honed is this ability to do oppress

678
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: to her, say outrageous things. Everyone laughs, He goes viral,

679
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: he gets publicity for the movie, but no one's asked

680
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: him about his private life. No one's asking him like

681
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: that much about Sukie Waterhouse. We still don't know his

682
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: daughter's name. We don't know like even if they're married

683
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: or anything like that. He's been able to sort of

684
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: walk this line of being a superstar and keeping his

685
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: private life to an extent. And it's because he lies

686
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: about edible pasta in your hand, past a burgo and yeah,

687
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: and it feels.

688
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Like no one really asked that traditional sort of question

689
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: anymore because they just know that he's going to derail

690
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: into a completely different direction.

691
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 3: And then you've got a viral moment. So it's kind

692
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: of great.

693
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: It's like a win for him and also a win

694
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: for the journalist because at least you walk out with

695
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: something that people are going to be interested in.

696
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: He's got a bit of that curated symbiotic relationship with them,

697
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: and that it works for both parties pretty well. So

698
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: with Zundaia, as we said, she also avoided any drama.

699
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: Didn't talk about Tom Holland, but we thought this press

700
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: run was going to be drama free. But right in

701
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: at the end, something's come to change things us.

702
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: Well, there's a few little controversies bubbling up. Also, shout

703
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: out to Tom Holland.

704
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: Who, as we move on from the red carpet stuff,

705
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: who was always as he always is, never walks the

706
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 1: red carpet with her if they're not walking together, but

707
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: if you look up there he is in a balcony.

708
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: Smile.

709
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: He always gets a hotel room balcony near where her

710
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: red carpets are so he can watch from there. And

711
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: he was really he was waving to fans. He wasn't

712
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: trying to hide that he was there. But I love

713
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that he's always just in a hidden balcony somewhere whenever

714
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: she's doing a red carpet.

715
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: He's like her biggest fan. He left little comment on

716
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: one of her posts being like, she looks so beautiful

717
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: one of the fans, and I'm like, I love that

718
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: you're just her number one cheerleader without having to jump

719
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: in and do joint interviews on the carpet.

720
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he should be her biggest cheerleader. I think

721
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: they they're very cute together. Yes, there's a few little

722
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: controversies bubbling up around the film. One of them is

723
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: to do with the subject matter of film, which obviously

724
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 1: we're not going to spoil here, but it has leaked

725
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: online in various places of what the big twist is,

726
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: because if you're not across it, Zendeia and Robert Pattinson

727
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: in the movie play a couple who as a little

728
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: meet you at the start, and then it kind of

729
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: like you see like shots of their relationship, but it's

730
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: pretty much them. They're engaged and their wedding is a

731
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: few days away, so the whole movie pretty much takes

732
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: place in the lead up to the wedding.

733
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: And this is in the trailer, so it's not a spoiler.

734
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Is that they're with their friends at a pre wedding like, well,

735
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: they're at a menu tasting. I can say it's a

736
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: tip it from the movie, not that changes anything. They're

737
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: and a menu tasting for the wedding. They're having lots

738
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: of drinks that with their two best friends who are

739
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: also the groomsmen, the maid of honor, and their wedding,

740
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: so they're married. The groomsmen are made of honor. They

741
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: were saying before their wedding, they told each other the

742
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: worst thing they'd ever ever done. And then they shared

743
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: at the table and they say to Zendea and Roberts characters,

744
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: now you say your worst thing, and Zendea's character, Emma

745
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: says hers, and it just is shocked.

746
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: It's pretty bad. Yeah. I was like, I was sitting

747
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: in the cinema and I.

748
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, I think because I had up anything, Like,

749
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: I went in completely blind, and I was a bit like,

750
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: it is jarring.

751
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: So it wasn't what you expect.

752
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't what I was saying.

753
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was to be honest, like,

754
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: oh no, I won't even say anything just in case

755
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: I give something away.

756
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: But I was a bit I found it very jarring.

757
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: And then it plays such a big part in the movie.

758
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where like it's really

759
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: intense subject matter and it's upsetting subject matter, and I

760
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: can definitely see how some people would watch this movie

761
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: and be upset by it. There's a lot of laughter

762
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: in the cinema. But it was also sometimes I think

763
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: nervous laughter of like are we allowed to laugh at this?

764
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: Well?

765
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: I think as well. People are going into this being

766
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: like Robert Pattinson's En Day. I mean, it hasn't been

767
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: marketed as a rom com like I think it is

768
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: obvious it's people taken that away from it because it's them,

769
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: And I think people are going to go into this

770
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: like they did with Materialists, which actually was marketed more

771
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: like a rom com, and be expecting this like, oh,

772
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: feel good Friday night movie with the girls, and come

773
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: out and be like a little bit heavy.

774
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

775
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is quite heavy and funny and just offbeat.

776
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: It's a very dark dark if it's just on the dark,

777
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: a very very dark comedy.

778
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: It's keeping me up nights what that is.

779
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: But you need to go.

780
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: It comes out this week. I'm going to the trauma

781
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: is nearly over for you. Yeah, you need to go

782
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: to directly to the cinema when it opened.

783
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: I can't access the internet until then, I'm gonna I

784
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: can't see.

785
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: People will spoil it for sure as soon as it

786
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: comes out, which I hate, but so that's kind of

787
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: happening now. People are starting to write think pieces about

788
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: like should they have made this movie? Is the subject

789
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: matter too much? Zendeia and Rob haven't really because they

790
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: can't say anything about the movie. When they did, they

791
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: interview magazine cover shoot together and in their joint interview

792
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: they were even saying in that like, we have no

793
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: idea what to say because we can't say anything.

794
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is difficult.

795
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: And so now it's coming circling back around of like, oh,

796
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: you guys were walking down red carpets and pretty dresses

797
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: talking like making jokes about weddings and making jokes about

798
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: couples and the movies about this.

799
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: Like what can you do? Because you don't want to

800
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: spoil it for people, so you don't really have a choice.

801
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: And now some real life, very dark drama has come

802
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: out to accompany it because this essay that was written

803
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: by the filmmaker Christopher Bordley has come out that he

804
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: wrote when he was twenty seven for this Norwegian magazine,

805
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: and that's been circulating. He wrote about his romantic relationship

806
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: with a high school girl who was ten years younger

807
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: than him, so at the time she was seventeen and

808
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: he was twenty seven. And now people are reading that

809
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: which has come out. They've almost had this clean press run,

810
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: and right before the movie officially premiers everywhere, this is

811
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: what people are starting to talk about.

812
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has really blown up because I believe it

813
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: is obviously it was run many years ago, but I

814
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: believe it's been translated and then reprinted by the Hollywood

815
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Reporter and it's just blown up. And look, it's fairly

816
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: questionable and engross and now obviously because the movie itself

817
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: has some like difficult subject matter, and now people are saying, well,

818
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: how could Robert and zenday our work with this man

819
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: when he's written this essay. I mean, it always comes

820
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: back to the celebrity, so I guess their names on

821
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: the movie. But I'm like, there's a lot to unpack

822
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: here that's nothing to do with Zendea in particular, Like

823
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: people love to pull her name into things, and she

824
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with this essay that he wrote.

825
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: But yes, in this essay he talks about his May

826
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: December romance and look, ten years ten years is not

827
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: the biggest steel breaker.

828
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: I think it's the first he was seventeen. Yeah, exactly,

829
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: I don't think it.

830
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Ten years is the biggest steel breaker when someone's forty

831
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: and someone's fifty, because then like you're both completely adults,

832
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't really bad an eye at that, but

833
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: someone being seventeen, I know, like a school student a

834
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: child with a twenty seven year old who's like a

835
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: fully an adult with a fully formed frontal open out

836
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: in the world.

837
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: But that's bad.

838
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: But then also just the way he writes about it,

839
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: like their May December romance, and he said he had

840
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: to like recalibrate his moral compass, and also that he

841
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: said and this is he kind of said he watched

842
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of movies that made him feel like it

843
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: was okay, like Lost in Translation. I was like, dude,

844
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: you took the wrong message from Loston Translation. They don't

845
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: have a relationship.

846
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: Well, so she is older and she's married, she's not

847
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: seventeen in.

848
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Lost, No, she's a fully formed adult.

849
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: Well, I mean she's early twenties, but still she's not

850
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: a high school student. I was like, don't bring Sophia

851
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Coppler into this. She didn't tell she didn't tell you

852
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: to do this.

853
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: And the way he talks about so there's one part

854
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: where he goes if a film from nineteen seventy nine,

855
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: featuring Woody Allen's character a forty two year old man

856
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: involved with a seventeen year old girl, is presented solely

857
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: in a favorable life and sparked no controversy at the time.

858
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: Why should my relationship with a much smaller age gap

859
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: be considered inappropriate in twenty twelve?

860
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: And I just okay.

861
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: By twenty twelve, we were already off the Woody Allan

862
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: vandwagon or like we should you should have been so

863
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I get you wasn't, Yeah, exactly. Throwing a Woody Allen

864
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: movie into the mix as a defense is wild because

865
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: that's been a criticism of Woody Allen movies as they

866
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: often depict an older man having a relationship with a

867
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: much younger, like an ing new woman who comes in

868
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: and like changes his life, and that's something that he's

869
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: been called out for. Also, Woody Allen like never found guilty,

870
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: but accused of some pretty terrible things to do with

871
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: young girls, in particular the daughter of the woman he

872
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: was in a relationship with, Mia, Pharaoh's daughter, who there's

873
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: been allegations around, like sexual assault and inappropriate behavior. And

874
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: it's not that he was found innocent, it's just that

875
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: there wasn't enough information to go to court, which is

876
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: a completely different thing. And then he has also been

877
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: married to Mia, Pharaoh's adopted daughter, and who was a

878
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: child at the time. Well, he's not exactly the model,

879
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: and I guess for this guy, he actually would be

880
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: the model because he's like.

881
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my that's how I want to live my life.

882
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: I know. And he goes, I opted to heed Woody's

883
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: perspective over my friends. So he's talking to all his friends.

884
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know about this man.

885
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what he did it.

886
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: His friends were like, dude, don't date a seventeen year old.

887
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: He's in high school, so creepy and weird. And he

888
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: was like, well, Woody Ellen told me it's okay, which

889
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: is the worst defense you can have.

890
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: And there's even parts in the essay where he said like.

891
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I had to climb out of her bedroom window

892
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: because her parents came home early. And I was like, well,

893
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: obviously that that's inappropriate, and there's a power and balance

894
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: if her family are like, don't come over and hang

895
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: out with it, don't date our teenage daughter or nearly

896
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: thirty year old man.

897
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, I'm also wondering what inspired him to write this article.

898
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Well, he was defending his May December romance.

899
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: I'm just not sure that it landed the way I mean,

900
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: I know at the time, probably this is really his

901
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: first mainstream project.

902
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is his first Speaker's Yeah. I think

903
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: his other movies have been more kind of indie art house.

904
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: And that's the interesting thing about this is like when

905
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: I went to the screening, everyone's like, oh, they're not

906
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: doing a big Australian premiere, and I was like, I know,

907
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: it looks like this is a big blockbuster release because

908
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: they've done some like they've done some big red carpets,

909
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: and because it's Synday and Rob Pattinson and it isn't

910
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: a twenty four films, so it's not tiny, but it's

911
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: not meant to be a big blockbuster. And so I think, yeah,

912
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: he is more of like an under the radar indie

913
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: director who has made some interesting movies and then got

914
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: these two big superstars to be in his movie, because

915
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: you know, it isn't obviously it's very buzzy interesting, and

916
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: like I can see why Robert Inzendea said yes to it,

917
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: because there's it's basically a two hander between their characters,

918
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: and it's just them like in rooms together acting and

919
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: having these It's like watching a play, to be honest.

920
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: So like I can see why they wanted to do it,

921
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: because it's a real show piece for their acting. I

922
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: don't think anyone expected this essay to resurface right now

923
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: and sort of take on the life that it has

924
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: against him. I don't think it will affect ticket sales.

925
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 2: No, everyone I know wants to see this man exactly.

926
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I think the marketing has been the allure of this movie,

927
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: and like the talk ability has been too strong. It's

928
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: just so timely with it coming out, as you were

929
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: saying before, like they've had such a good press run,

930
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: and there's all the interviews they've done together have been

931
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: so like Robin and Zendea have been so well received,

932
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: and there's been her looks on the red carpet and

933
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: then his crazy lies that he's telling and it's all

934
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: been so positive. And now attaching like a creepiness to

935
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: the director and having the story blow up is also

936
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: getting a lot of traffic for websites. I mean me

937
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: to be so clear, I think this guy sounds like

938
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: an absolute creep And I know it happened a long

939
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: time ago, but everything about this essay just made me.

940
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: I was like, so, I like your filmmaking a bit

941
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: you as a human being such a question. Well, no,

942
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm not, um sure I do. I just think he's

943
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: a bit creepy and it's such a typical thing of

944
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: men to be like it's my right to date this

945
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: much younger woman. He's like, we just we were equals.

946
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: That's what he says in the essay. He's like, we

947
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: actually were equals, and it's just.

948
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: No, you just weren't. Like, can you come up with

949
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: a really good lie? Just feel I need to divert this, like,

950
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: just come up with something crazy.

951
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: The only thing I don't really agree with his people

952
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of as I said before attaching Zendea's name to

953
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: it and being like Zendaya's director, the man working with

954
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: Zendea has done this.

955
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: They like, I've known this anyway, Like this is something

956
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: that's research firm so long it's unlikely they even knew

957
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah.

958
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: I just think it makes it more of a clicky

959
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: story to bring into me feel like some day the

960
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: Holy Reporter didn't sell it like that it's all the

961
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: outlets that are now covering it are bringing her name

962
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: into it to make it more of a story.

963
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's an unfortunate taint on it. Otherwise pretty

964
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: clean press.

965
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

966
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in the last week of this and one

967
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: more premiere to go, when I can wait for you

968
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: to see it.

969
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: Actually I get in on the first night, guys, we can.

970
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the actual movie closer to the day.

971
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, I will just say just because I don't

972
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: want anyone to be like Laura told me to go

973
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: see this movie and it upset me, so it just

974
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I will just yeah, it's it's some parts of it.

975
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: A quite upsetting. That's all I'll say on that.

976
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640
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977
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,160
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978
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979
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00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,840
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981
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,480
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982
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,560
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983
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