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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. Former Olympic swimmer James Magnuson is

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Speaker 2: quotejuicing to the guilts for a new kind of sporting

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Speaker 2: event where performance enhancing drugs aren't just allowed, they're encouraged. Plus,

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Speaker 2: those viral TikTok videos of people cracking their bags might

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Speaker 2: Before we get there, he is Clare Murphy with the

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Speaker 2: latest from the Quickie newsroom for Friday May thirty.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. A group of Hollywood royalties, sporting champions, singers

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Speaker 1: and other high profile Australian men have come together to

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Speaker 1: try and help tackle domestic and family violence. Hugh Jackman,

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Speaker 1: Eric Banner and actor Travis Fimmel are joined by cricketer

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Speaker 1: Orsmond Kwaja, comedians Hamish Blake and mcmlloy, singer Vans Joy,

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Speaker 1: and footballers Dancy Maud, James Cicily and Jonathan Thurston to

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Speaker 1: share this message family.

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Speaker 2: Violence harms too many Australians each year. Family violence is

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Speaker 2: a national disgrace.

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Speaker 1: We need to call it out.

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Speaker 3: It is to change. We have a shocking level of

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Speaker 3: domestic violence in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Domestic violence in any abuse is just not on.

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Speaker 1: The initiative was started by Family Circuit and Family Court

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Speaker 1: Chief Justice Will Austgen, who says he hopes it will

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Speaker 1: call out behavior while stressing men must be part of

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Speaker 1: the conversation about domestic violence. The video, which stars the

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Speaker 1: captains of both teams, will be shown during the Hawthorne

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Speaker 1: Collingwood game at the MCG tonight. A woman who once

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Speaker 1: worked for Sean Diddy Combs has told the court at

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Speaker 1: his sex trafficking and racketeering trial that she was sexually

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Speaker 1: assaulted by Combs more than once. The woman, who's known

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Speaker 1: only as Me, has said Combs also made her work

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Speaker 1: insane hours, including at one stage forcing her to stay

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Speaker 1: awake for five days on a trip to Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: during which she says she was required to always remain

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Speaker 1: shift left to go see friends, Mia claims Combs was

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Speaker 1: angry and send his security guards to collect her and

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Speaker 1: bring her back to his house. She described her time

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Speaker 1: employed by Combs as chaotic, toxic, and exciting, and that

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Speaker 1: the highs were high, but the lows were really, really low.

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Speaker 1: She says she was paid a salary of fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars for a forty hour work week that included looking

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Speaker 1: after his social media, liaising with other entertainment industry people

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Speaker 1: writing his next movie. Mia says she always did more

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Speaker 1: Mia says she was given a room to sleep in

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Speaker 1: at Combs's home as she was expected to always be available,

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Speaker 1: claiming Combs said it was his house and in his

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Speaker 1: male security guards were allowed to. She also claims Colmbs

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Speaker 1: was physically violent towards her, throwing things at her and

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Speaker 1: pinning her against walls, alleging he also sexually assaulted her

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Speaker 1: more than once, forcing her to perform sex acts on

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Speaker 1: her against her will. Until recently, Mia says she was

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Speaker 1: The Spys Girls have taken a social media to wish

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Speaker 1: their girl Scary a happy fiftieth. Melanie Brown aka Melb

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Speaker 1: or Scary Spyes posted herself too, saying fifty today. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for all the love and messages. I

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Speaker 1: see you and appreciate you all so much. Sporty Spice

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Speaker 1: Melse wrote, fifty years on this planet, my darling, Oh

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Speaker 1: the adventures we've had. I still remember the first day

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Speaker 1: Nutter Ginger Spies Jerry Halliwell shared a photo of her

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Speaker 1: Baby Spice aka Emma Bunten wrote that she's not far

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Speaker 1: behind her and from Ziggazigahs to belly laughs, she hopes

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Speaker 1: she has the best day Posh Spice. Victoria Beckham, who

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Speaker 1: was the first to turn fifty last year, posted a

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Speaker 1: Still on the Spice Girls, and there are more rumors

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Speaker 1: Mark Antony, who's a friend of the family, offered to

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Speaker 1: The sauce says Nicola felt Victoria stole her moment and

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, Welcome to the Olympics on Steroids. Remember

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Speaker 2: James Magnuson, the Golden Boy of twenty ten's Australian Swimming.

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Speaker 1: Less don't wor.

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Speaker 2: Well? The Olympic silver medallist is making headlines again, but

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Speaker 2: this time it's for openly taking performance enhancing drugs. The

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Speaker 2: Vegas in May twenty twenty six. Backed by billionaire Peter

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Speaker 2: a doctor. Magneson's already packed on twenty kilograms of muscle

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Speaker 2: While the Games promise medical supervision, some of the substances

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Speaker 2: multiple drugs are stacked together. The winner's purse is significant, though,

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Speaker 2: up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per event,

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Speaker 2: So far, Magnuson is one of the biggest names to

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Speaker 2: Whenever I see one of those backcracking videos on TikTok,

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Speaker 3: And observe what's going on it's over here.

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Speaker 2: But while those satisfying bat cracking videos might be taking

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Speaker 2: bone health. We all remember being told to drink milk

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Speaker 2: be thinking about bone density health much earlier than we do.

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Speaker 2: start with an easy one. What actually is bone density?

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Speaker 3: So your bone density is now thick and strong your

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Speaker 3: be or matthy on you, but standard deviations away from

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Speaker 3: we would not expect anybody to have the bones of

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Speaker 3: us have weaker bones in that, but it's just about

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Speaker 2: Why is bone density health important? I mean, you say

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Speaker 3: The lower your bone density goes, the higher your risk

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Speaker 2: It feels like when we talk about bone health and

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Speaker 3: Well, it depends on whether you're asking me what medicare

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Speaker 3: people over fifty. I find that number just insane. So

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Speaker 3: go and get it done. The problem is it's not free.

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Speaker 3: good news, the test you just kind of lifefully closed

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Speaker 3: the area of your lumbus spine. Whole thing takes five

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Speaker 3: to do and how seriously you need to take your

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Speaker 2: Is it as simple as downing some milk, maybe popping

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Speaker 2: some elsium pills and taking a brisk, thirty minute walk daily, Like,

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Speaker 2: how do we actually look after our bone density? Taylor?

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Speaker 3: This, It is a bit of a complicated question. A

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Speaker 3: lot of this is genetic, so a lot of this

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Speaker 3: this massive hormonal shift as they go into menopause and

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Speaker 3: it probably makes sense. And then light bearing exercises with bones,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are concerns about the way chiropractice crack spines,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to assume you're going to tell us

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Speaker 3: It's hard to study it for specific things, but it's

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Speaker 3: And these days the evidence is very strong around self

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Speaker 3: That is not best practice for a phytheo therapist. The

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