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Speaker 2: culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney, I'm Mverner and Happy New Year, Happy.
Speaker 3: Neil Yah, hope you had a good one. I hope
Speaker 3: you love twenty twenty five, because get ready, you're gonna
Speaker 3: love twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a lot of energy that your bringing this here. Well,
Speaker 2: it was beautiful, but I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: are just there in that mellow holiday phase. Hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 2: everyone's recovering from a big night.
Speaker 3: Hoursually they're on their second day hangover, yeah, and doing
Speaker 3: lots of swimming and lounging under an air con avoiding
Speaker 3: the family. Perhaps if you are going through that, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry for yelling the last years' ry.
Speaker 2: For that intense cheer. So because of all that, we
Speaker 2: decided that the only topic we could all as a
Speaker 2: group handle in these early days of the new year
Speaker 2: is something very important, and that is the top rom
Speaker 2: com couples from our favorite romantic comedy movies that we
Speaker 2: believe ended their relationship in angry, upset circumstances after the
Speaker 2: credits rolled. Oh controversial and this is a brand new
Speaker 2: episode we're dropping for you guys to celebrate the new
Speaker 2: year with a few, like little reruns we've had, but
Speaker 2: only because we thought this was breaking important news and
Speaker 2: the first thing you.
Speaker 3: Want to listen to had of your grandma's lunch. We've
Speaker 3: got something important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so romantic comedy couples we believe didn't stand the
Speaker 2: test of time. Do you want to kick us off?
Speaker 2: I don't want to drink.
Speaker 3: Us off with something quite controversial, because this movie is
Speaker 3: a movie that everyone's watched and everyone always rewatches every year.
Speaker 3: Everyone would have watched this movie last month, do you
Speaker 3: think so? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: Cameron Diaz Jude Law playing Amanda and Graham in the
Speaker 3: Holiday I.
Speaker 1: Just broke up with someone, and considering the you showed
Speaker 1: up from your insanely good looking Emma probably won't remember
Speaker 1: me anyway, I'm thinking we should have sex if you want.
Speaker 1: Is that a trick question?
Speaker 2: Can I tell you what I've always thought this to
Speaker 2: be true? Well? Both couples? Yeah, I actually think everyone
Speaker 2: You think both?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Both. It's because it's a distance thing and their lives
Speaker 2: being so different. But I think the reason that the
Speaker 2: camera just shows them dancing in New Year's Eve and
Speaker 2: the camera pulls away and you just have that moment.
Speaker 2: It's just meant to be a moment in time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And they make no plans for the future, Like Miles
Speaker 2: literally says to Kate Winslet's character, do you have a
Speaker 2: date for New Year's Eve? And nothing past that? So
Speaker 2: I think it's only meant to be New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: That's the magic of the movie. Don't you think you're
Speaker 2: upset about this? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean it's one of those ones I feel like
Speaker 3: all of my options that it's like true in my
Speaker 3: heart where I know they won't laugh, but I've told
Speaker 3: myself they will. Yeah, And now I'm like facing reality
Speaker 3: all this.
Speaker 2: Episode because the thing is, if they have a big
Speaker 2: conversation trying to sort out their real lifelationship, you're going
Speaker 2: to see too many floors in the plan. You've got
Speaker 2: to know they're not together because it just ends with
Speaker 2: them dancing and you just end with that beautiful snow
Speaker 2: covered house and nothing is.
Speaker 3: And they don't like resolve. But that's okay in reality
Speaker 3: because like she's this massive TV producer who works in
Speaker 3: la He's got two young girls who lives in London.
Speaker 3: That's not gonna work out.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work out. But the thing is they
Speaker 2: all learn to open their hearts and they all let
Speaker 2: go of past toxic relationships. And that is the lesson
Speaker 2: of the holiday. That's the true lesson. And also, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, actually, that is the lesson of
Speaker 2: Christmas that it feels at this moment in time where
Speaker 2: there are no consequences and you don't have to plan
Speaker 2: because you're living in the moment of Christmas in New
Speaker 2: Year and the holidays, and then it feels like this
Speaker 2: big fresh start where anything is possible. And that's the holiday.
Speaker 3: Ah would come to a happy.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, but yeah, I just don't think of that
Speaker 2: when you watch the movie. I think, yeah.
Speaker 3: And also my other thing in this movie is that
Speaker 3: I've got his name, Albert the old guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about him all the time.
Speaker 3: He's still alive in my head.
Speaker 2: Absolutely lives on forever. Don't google that, don't google that.
Speaker 3: He lives on forever and ever and all the time,
Speaker 3: he's still making movies, he's still winning award.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think about him all the time because whenever
Speaker 2: I'm not like taking a risk or doing something or
Speaker 2: I always think, like, be the leading lady of your
Speaker 2: own life. I think for that all the time, not
Speaker 2: even ironically. I really like try and live that way.
Speaker 3: So true. He's so cute. He lives in a beautiful house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the most important thing I.
Speaker 3: Think when I should married him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, to everyone's longing for jud Law, I'm
Speaker 2: just longing for Cameron Diaz's house with the button where
Speaker 2: all the blinds closed and that big pool. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: need a man if I lived there, I'd be so happy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a spin. Anyway, what is yours? Okay,
Speaker 3: so full disclosure.
Speaker 2: I was all on board with this topic when we
Speaker 2: came up with it, but when I was looking for examples,
Speaker 2: I really struggled and didn't.
Speaker 3: Really about your own feelings because that's what I did.
Speaker 2: I did because I didn't realize what a die hard
Speaker 2: rom com family was. I was going through all the
Speaker 2: lists of my favorite rom coms and I was like, well, know,
Speaker 2: they're still together. No, they're definitely still together. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can't talk about them breaking up. And so I
Speaker 2: found it really hard to pick. So I've had to
Speaker 2: go for some really iconic movies that is probably gonna
Speaker 2: upset people, starting with one of the most iconic rom
Speaker 2: coms of all time that is still referenced in so
Speaker 2: many movies and TV shows today, Sleepless in Seattle. Have
Speaker 2: you seen it?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if you haven't seen it, you've
Speaker 2: seen the MINDI Project where she reenacts shes to react.
Speaker 2: They're like, man, what are you doing here? Every day
Speaker 2: I'm looking for a strange man. Movie's left to backpack.
Speaker 2: So Sleepless in Seattle. I've always had a little bit
Speaker 2: of beef with this movie because it is supposed to
Speaker 2: be one of the most romantic rom comms of all time.
Speaker 2: People still talk about it, and no it's not because
Speaker 2: so it stars Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan, who everyone
Speaker 2: talks about having this intense, wonderful But are they your
Speaker 2: favorite couple in this movie? Because in this movie they
Speaker 2: spend leslie You've Got Thing is, You've Got Mail? Is
Speaker 2: an iconic rom com ten to ten they're still together
Speaker 2: because they spend so much time together, you believe they
Speaker 2: fall in love. Do you know when Sleeper? Since Seattle,
Speaker 2: Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks have like less than ten
Speaker 2: minutes of screen time together. For the entire movie, do
Speaker 2: they Yeah, they spend no time together, and so I
Speaker 2: believe that once they left the Empire State Building and
Speaker 2: the lift on the way down.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so when he broke up on the list.
Speaker 2: I think so. So Tom Brady plays yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because they really they have nothing to talk about, right.
Speaker 3: Oh, they could have talked about all the cardio they got.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, exactly. So Tom Hanks plays Sam and Meg
Speaker 2: Ryan plays Annie. He's a single dad who lost his wife.
Speaker 2: His son calls into a radio station trying to find
Speaker 2: his dad a date. He gets on the phone. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna call them by their own names. Tom Hanks
Speaker 2: gets on the phone. Meg Ryan hears him, she starts
Speaker 2: to fall in love with him. She writes him a letter.
Speaker 2: Other people in their lives intervene so that Meg Ryan
Speaker 2: ends up flying to New York because she's going to
Speaker 2: meet him on top of the Empire State Building from
Speaker 2: the movie and Affair to Remember. It's just kind of
Speaker 2: homage to that. So they do briefly see each other
Speaker 2: in an airport and across the street, but they actually
Speaker 2: only come together in the final few minutes of the movie,
Speaker 2: where they see each other on top of the Empire
Speaker 2: State Building and we're meant to believe it's this incredible
Speaker 2: love story. But they're just in love with the idea
Speaker 2: of each other, and they also just have the hots
Speaker 2: for each other because they're both like they've just seen
Speaker 2: each other, they've had no interaction. So I just don't
Speaker 2: know how.
Speaker 3: All relationships are from just seeing each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that, but I think to believe that they actually
Speaker 2: ended up together, we need more than that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's just like, also think that's just modern dating telling
Speaker 3: us that our alarm bells are going off, and sometimes
Speaker 3: I don't want my alarm bell.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I just think. My thought
Speaker 2: is that they have this beautiful moment on top of
Speaker 2: the Empire State Building. They look at each other in
Speaker 2: the lock eyes. It's like it's you. I can't believe
Speaker 2: it's you. That's the whole vibe. And I think that
Speaker 2: they had that moment, and then they get into the
Speaker 2: elevator and I think they run out of things to
Speaker 2: talk about by the time they to the bottom, and
Speaker 2: then he's like you went town. They're like you yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think she's like, I mean, I think maybe
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to marry my fiance and I'm
Speaker 2: projecting onto you.
Speaker 3: Sorry man, And he takes it to a steakhouse and
Speaker 3: she's like, I'm vegetarian.
Speaker 2: Yes, and she's like, oh, actually, don't want to be
Speaker 2: a step mom. Like the idea of the kid was cute,
Speaker 2: but now that he's here, and also, you're clearly still
Speaker 2: in love with your ex wife. So yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think that Sam and Annie from Sleepless in Seattle ended
Speaker 2: up together.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll pay that, Okay, My next one is is
Speaker 3: Sandra Bullock and Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I nearly picks this in the proposal. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: we're getting married.
Speaker 3: Who is kidding?
Speaker 2: You and I are getting married? Can't fight in love
Speaker 2: like ours?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to marry you. If you don't,
Speaker 3: you'll be on the street. I'm looking for a job.
Speaker 3: Have the two of you told.
Speaker 2: Your parents we're going to their places?
Speaker 1: We can Alaska?
Speaker 2: Alaska?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they are not staying.
Speaker 2: They had a few weeks of really good hate sex
Speaker 2: and then they broke up.
Speaker 3: Yes, because I was and even the first time I
Speaker 3: watched this when I was not young, but I was
Speaker 3: like in my teens, I was like, what's going to
Speaker 3: happen next? Like do they just go back to work?
Speaker 3: It quit? He's still going to be her assistant.
Speaker 2: He was getting his book published. That was their deal.
Speaker 3: And where do they live in Alaska? Do they move
Speaker 3: back to New York?
Speaker 2: I think they moved back to New York because now
Speaker 2: she has a green card. But yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's it's that idea of like they actually hated each other.
Speaker 3: I hated each other and she was mean.
Speaker 2: I love enemies to love it. It's my favorite trope
Speaker 2: in rom coms, but this one had too much hate
Speaker 2: and then really not enough love. It had like hate
Speaker 2: to lust and hate to love is different, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think it would have been actually quite
Speaker 3: a nice ending. Actually no, because I it wouldn't be
Speaker 3: a rom com. But like if she actually did leave
Speaker 3: and then they just became friends and then naturally fell
Speaker 3: in love, Yeah, I just didn't think like the legality
Speaker 3: is around it. Like that was a third character was
Speaker 3: basically that guy who was like, I know, you're not
Speaker 3: rarely married.
Speaker 2: And it's also that classic thing of like she fell
Speaker 2: love with his family not here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I would fall in love with
Speaker 3: Betty White as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go live on that beautiful arm and
Speaker 2: like little rituals around Mary Steed Burgin and Betty White.
Speaker 2: That's the best family you could hope for, best family.
Speaker 2: And then Ryan Reynolds is just there.
Speaker 3: I was just fall in love with Alaska. Yeah say that, Ryan.
Speaker 3: You can go write your book, Your luck Luck Ryan.
Speaker 2: So they're not together, those people.
Speaker 3: Absolutely not together. If you think they're together, you can
Speaker 3: find me, because this is one that I'm like, they're
Speaker 3: absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Okay, great movie though, fantastic. When the dog gets taken
Speaker 2: by the hawk, he's one of the top ten scenes
Speaker 2: of comedy I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: And they're like, look at I'm playing the phone goes,
Speaker 3: do take the dog?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you haven't seen, it's not a good
Speaker 2: love story, but it's a good movie, really funny. Okay,
Speaker 2: this one I probably don't even have to explain to
Speaker 2: you once I say the name of the movie. Why
Speaker 2: it didn't work out? Okay, I think trauma therapy, hopefully,
Speaker 2: some trusted adults. Hopefully some unemployment and firing happened in
Speaker 2: the aftermath of this particular relationship, which helped our leading
Speaker 2: ladies see that she should not be around this creepy man.
Speaker 2: It's the classic rom com Never Being Kissed.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's a good ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I actually one hundred percent agree with you on this.
Speaker 2: So I loved this movie as a teen, but obviously
Speaker 2: I didn't know any better.
Speaker 3: I was just sectible to creepy man in life.
Speaker 2: Oh did you did you have a problem with it?
Speaker 2: Than you thought it was fine?
Speaker 3: I thought it was fine. Okay, yeah, but maybe later
Speaker 3: in life. I mean like mid twenty.
Speaker 2: Okay, so your frontal lobe hadn't developed yet.
Speaker 3: It was fine. I was fine.
Speaker 2: So Never Been Kissed if you haven't watched it, and
Speaker 2: also like still watch, it's a great movie. I think
Speaker 2: that like the best thing about a rom com is
Speaker 2: it makes you forget a very problematic setup that's like
Speaker 2: fifty first dates or something you just like, but they're
Speaker 2: so cute.
Speaker 3: It's just like, this is going to be controversial. Every
Speaker 3: good rom com happened in the late nineties to early
Speaker 3: two thousands.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's mainly because they were also problem bad, because
Speaker 2: you have to really suspend disbelief to believe in a
Speaker 2: truly great rom com.
Speaker 3: Like, there's so many things I feel like would not
Speaker 3: cut today, Like even in You Got Mail, Like that's
Speaker 3: one of my favorite realm coms of all time. He's
Speaker 3: so like he goes her and leaves her in a
Speaker 3: restaurant upon seeing her.
Speaker 2: Can I just say I was about to say, I
Speaker 2: think You've Got Mail as the only one that potentially
Speaker 2: holds up.
Speaker 3: But he isn't shocked too, Yeah, he'sn't shocked, but he
Speaker 3: like leaves her there. I'm like, but also that is
Speaker 3: too controversial to be redone now.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I think that one would be okay, absolutely
Speaker 2: only because that's just human behavior. If he had tricked
Speaker 2: her and then like a man can't do that to
Speaker 2: a woman. Yeah, I know it was a bad I know,
Speaker 2: but then they fell in love. It's okay. Oh god,
Speaker 2: anyway back to this problematic mean sorry. So Drew Barrymore
Speaker 2: plays Josie Josie Grosie, who is a twenty five year
Speaker 2: old newspaper journalist who has never been a relationship and
Speaker 2: because she looks quite young, she has sent undercover at
Speaker 2: a high school. It's great promise, undercover at a high
Speaker 2: school to write a bit of an expose and what's
Speaker 2: going on? And while she she's there, she falls in
Speaker 2: love with her, it must be said, young and hot
Speaker 2: English teacher Sam. But he also falls in love with
Speaker 2: her even though he knows she's a student, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't like instantly remove himself from the school and leave,
Speaker 2: which is what he should have done the moment he
Speaker 2: had those feelings, and afterwards it's all explained a way
Speaker 2: that she really is twenty five and she waits on
Speaker 2: a football field for him to come and kiss her,
Speaker 2: and he does, I.
Speaker 3: Know, we knew you were twenty five.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it's given every inappropriate male teacher
Speaker 2: a bit of a fantasy to work with, Like what
Speaker 2: if this girl that I'm lusting after in my class
Speaker 2: is actual secretly is secretly an adult on a job,
Speaker 2: and then it's all systems go e.
Speaker 3: I hate that.
Speaker 2: So I don't think Josie and Sam ended up together,
Speaker 2: especially because that was her first relationship in dating.
Speaker 3: Like, Josie should want to date a man who thought
Speaker 3: you were a student. Yeah, that is wild, And it's
Speaker 3: all up to her.
Speaker 2: To apologize to him, which I kind of feel get
Speaker 2: why he feels a bit tricked, But he feels tricked
Speaker 2: because he's like, oh, you made me like you, and
Speaker 2: I felt so bad myself and I was right the
Speaker 2: whole time. It's like, no, so you still were not right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're so right. It's one of those movies
Speaker 3: when you rewatch as like an adult, you're kind of like,
Speaker 3: what the hell is going on? Yeah, similar to like
Speaker 3: pretttle liars like Aria and Ezra. Did you ever watch really?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Obviously, well when Ezra were like when I was watching
Speaker 3: it when I was younger, I was like, Ezra so hot?
Speaker 3: Why did her dad punch him in the face? And Dad,
Speaker 3: I'm like, that should have been killed. Like he literally
Speaker 3: goes to these parents, I'm in love with your underage
Speaker 3: daughter and I'm gonna keep seeing her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they just get married at the end,
Speaker 2: like it's all fine and good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to change these tropes and should be
Speaker 2: in jail.
Speaker 3: In jail that should.
Speaker 2: Have been the follow up series. So yes, Never being Kissed.
Speaker 2: I do believe that once I left that football field
Speaker 2: and she had a kiss, and part of it she
Speaker 2: was just like she's like, oh, it's like that whole
Speaker 2: thing of like the first guy who shows you a
Speaker 2: bit of attention, you're like, he's amazing. But yeah, I just.
Speaker 3: Feel like she should mean, they're not our teachers, but.
Speaker 2: No, I know, but I just I just feel like,
Speaker 2: once Josie, you like really got out in the world
Speaker 2: and and you know.
Speaker 3: It's all like how hot and cute you were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's freaking Drew Barry More. They try
Speaker 2: to make it look ugly, but.
Speaker 3: More should legally be in every single rom com.
Speaker 2: Absolutely often I've seen every Drew Barry movie in existence.
Speaker 2: But sometimes when I'm just feeling like I need a
Speaker 2: little pick me up, I'll just type Drew Barry Moore
Speaker 2: into the search and just watch whatever. In the Rain. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's so wonderful. I knew there was that window rain.
Speaker 3: Like true, I'm working.
Speaker 2: I can't go stand the rain. I can't go find
Speaker 2: a window in my house that no one else knew exists.
Speaker 2: I can't do an apology in front of the poor
Speaker 2: wall in my house. I love that woman so much.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I never been kissed. Great movie, problematic relationship,
Speaker 2: and they definitely broke up the second they left that
Speaker 2: baseball field.
Speaker 3: I agree. Okay, my last one for today, I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm bending the rules a little bit. Okay, you know,
Speaker 3: I love that because I feel like with a lot
Speaker 3: of teenage rom coms, I feel like there is a
Speaker 3: consensus that they're not going to end up together because
Speaker 3: I teenagers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this one, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like is like you have to agree. It's Georgia
Speaker 3: and Robbie from Anger Stung's and Perfect Snogging.
Speaker 2: It's the new song I wrote.
Speaker 3: It's about Georgia.
Speaker 2: Wo life's biggest adventure.
Speaker 1: He's just beginning.
Speaker 2: Like you, Georgia, I know you are lad. Can I
Speaker 2: tell you something that I've managed to hide from you
Speaker 2: for an entire friendship that I feel like I've never
Speaker 2: seen this movie, but I do.
Speaker 3: I i'mctually gonna I'm not gonna cry.
Speaker 2: Are you sure you look like you're gonna cry?
Speaker 3: That's bullshit. You've watched every single movie ever exists I
Speaker 3: and you know this is my favorite one. Are you
Speaker 3: asking I open them? I'm gonna cry, but I'm not. Okay,
Speaker 3: now you've left me explaining this movie. I feel like
Speaker 3: you can't even help me this time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But also, which is my biggest sparable because you don't
Speaker 2: know what this movie is about.
Speaker 3: It's my favorite one. I do know.
Speaker 2: It's about two teenage girls who are best friends?
Speaker 3: Wrong?
Speaker 2: Oh, so Rock the Get Go? Is that in the UK?
Speaker 3: Is it in the UK?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 3: Okay. It's about Georgia Groom. She's a teenage girl. She
Speaker 3: has like a group of girlfriends, but it's not one
Speaker 3: of those like I mean, there's second friendship stuff going on.
Speaker 3: And then another girl in the group, Jazz, her and
Speaker 3: Georgia want to like have a relationship. They want a boyfriend.
Speaker 3: And then these two boys joined the school, which is
Speaker 3: Aaron Taylor Johnson who plays Robbie and another guy who
Speaker 3: plays is really hot brother. Yeah, and they call them
Speaker 3: the sex gods, so important, and Georgia and Jazz tries
Speaker 3: to just get with them, and they like have iconic lines. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's just such good, good rom com storytelling. It is
Speaker 3: just so funny. I read the books first when I
Speaker 3: was young, So it's based on book. Yes, it's based
Speaker 3: on a series of books.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: And this movie was just the best. And also there
Speaker 3: were like so many rumors that Georgia would which is
Speaker 3: the name of the girl who plays Georgia. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: Aaron Taylor Johnson had a thing going on, but wasn't.
Speaker 2: He married then not yet? Okay, so he got married
Speaker 2: really young.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got married literally after that, Like he met
Speaker 3: his now partner literally after the movie You're Up, when
Speaker 3: he was seventeen. Oh, and she married Rupert Grant and
Speaker 3: had a marribe.
Speaker 2: No, I'm across there, and their baby's name is Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I know that's okay.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you know that. Anyway, So the whole
Speaker 3: movie is about her pining after Robbie. It's just one
Speaker 3: of those movies where you're like, you want her to
Speaker 3: end up with him so badly because she's like the
Speaker 3: shobby girl. They were doing all these like friendship things
Speaker 3: where they all like raid each other's features, like in
Speaker 3: the Girls, and she's like, who gave my nose a four?
Speaker 3: What's wrong with my nose? It sounds she like, so
Speaker 3: has to like tan her legs and they end up
Speaker 3: being orange and she does hands and he's like, Georgia,
Speaker 3: what have you done to your legs? He's like, they're
Speaker 3: like big cheesy pops. It's so funny. But it's like
Speaker 3: one of those movies where they do end up together,
Speaker 3: like a cute little teenage rom com, but you just
Speaker 3: know they're both going to go to different universities. They're
Speaker 3: both going to have different friendship. Groops are so different.
Speaker 3: She had this bigcoming of age and the thing in
Speaker 3: the movie, but the whole movie just shows him just
Speaker 3: being hot and that's why she wants him.
Speaker 2: That's so important, so.
Speaker 3: Important, especially for teenage. And he can sing and play guitar.
Speaker 3: Oh so so important. Oh my god, I need to
Speaker 3: send you to soundtrack You're going to fall in love?
Speaker 2: Why do to watch the movie first? I feel like
Speaker 2: I've watched it because I feel like I missed the boat,
Speaker 2: like I feel like you. It's like everyone's favorite movie.
Speaker 2: Everyone watched it together. I watched it sleep over.
Speaker 3: You have to watch it. I mean it sucks that
Speaker 3: Christmas is just over. Yeah, but you have to watch
Speaker 3: it with your sister.
Speaker 2: Oh which one?
Speaker 3: Lucy?
Speaker 2: Okay, Like this is a yet bit. She's seen it.
Speaker 3: She probably has seen it, and she'll probably be as
Speaker 3: mad as me. You haven't seen it, But you have
Speaker 3: to watch it with Lucy like some wine. All right,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe I'll come to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you'll come to. I'll send her this Clipper's
Speaker 2: Wave invitation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think you'll really enjoy I'm sure I will.
Speaker 2: It just hasn't come up so you've.
Speaker 3: Been like not understanding any of my quotes. Whenever I
Speaker 3: quote the mo He's going along, It is like.
Speaker 2: The fifth time We've talked about this movie every time,
Speaker 2: but this time I'm like, there's no way, I can't
Speaker 2: wait to talk about this all the time. And I look,
Speaker 2: I do a really good job of looking interested.
Speaker 3: This is not the way I wanted to start twenty
Speaker 3: twenty six. So sorry, but I'm glad we started off
Speaker 3: with the truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we didn't lean in with the life. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: the lies in here.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Okay. So I was looking for a movie that could
Speaker 2: represent all the rom coms where we have a plague
Speaker 2: boy guy who sleeps around and suddenly drops it all
Speaker 2: for one woman, for one woman, and we're supposed to
Speaker 2: bleed it that this couple stays together and they didn't
Speaker 2: break up in a few months into relationship once he
Speaker 2: got over it, and the movie I have selected to
Speaker 2: represent all these movies. Wait, what do you think it's
Speaker 2: going to be?
Speaker 3: I'm scared I'm gonna guess it, and the I won't.
Speaker 2: Be a surprise, no, no, try and guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, is it? I forgot the name of it? Emma
Speaker 3: Stone and Ryan Gosling. No, is it pretty woman?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But a Pretty Woman was on my list of movies,
Speaker 2: so obvious. No, but you know what, that was one
Speaker 2: of my movies. I couldn't bear to have that conversation,
Speaker 2: so I took on the list. Is it what are
Speaker 2: you gonna say?
Speaker 1: Sound?
Speaker 3: Amus, It's not it.
Speaker 2: It's not the sound of music. Do we think Maria
Speaker 2: and Captain von Trump stayed together?
Speaker 1: Can?
Speaker 2: I tell you yes? Because they didn't have a choice
Speaker 2: because they were running over the mountains with no money
Speaker 2: and seven children running from Nazis, And that will just
Speaker 2: make you say together. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: I like her children, You're gonna run the other way.
Speaker 2: She knows better than anyone. It's so true. That's one
Speaker 2: of those ones where it's a marriage of convenience. They
Speaker 2: have just stating up there, so unfortunately Maria couldn't escape.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, watch the watch the sequel. No,
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you've seen this movie, it's worth watching.
Speaker 2: It's a really good movie. But it is made of honor.
Speaker 2: The two thousand and eight rom com with Patrick Dempsey.
Speaker 2: Do you know this movie? Wait?
Speaker 3: Is this the one where like she liked him first.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's that whole thing of like two best friends.
Speaker 2: He doesn't love her, so the movie is so it's
Speaker 2: made of honor. So it's Patrick Dempsey who plays Tom,
Speaker 2: and Michelle Monagan as Hannah. So a lot of people
Speaker 2: would know Michelle from the last season of Whitelader. This
Speaker 2: is like the sexy movie star, but here she's just
Speaker 2: the kind of quiet girl next door best friend. So
Speaker 2: Tom and Hannah meet in college and they have like
Speaker 2: this almost took up but not really, and then it
Speaker 2: cuts to them as like full blown adults over a
Speaker 2: decade later, both living in New York, and Hannah is
Speaker 2: like very sweet, very girl next door, very very work focused,
Speaker 2: and Tom has become like a multi millionaire of this
Speaker 2: little coffee invention, so he just hangs out all day.
Speaker 2: And his whole thing is that he's like a playboy,
Speaker 2: and he hooks up with a different woman every Saturday night,
Speaker 2: and then every yeah, every Saturday night, he finds a
Speaker 2: new woman, goes on a date, it, comes back, has
Speaker 2: sex with her. Sunday morning, he wakes up early and
Speaker 2: kicks her out of the house because he spends every
Speaker 2: Sunday with his best friend Hannah where they do all
Speaker 2: the fun things like go to Central Park, get coffee,
Speaker 2: rent a boat, go and get dessert to share.
Speaker 3: So he's like dating Hannah but having sex with these other.
Speaker 2: Women, yeah, because she's just his best friend. And there's
Speaker 2: like they're so platonic. It's that whole thing of like
Speaker 2: two each different sex people who are just completely platonic
Speaker 2: because he's a playboy and she's like, you know, looking
Speaker 2: for true love and they just don't see each other
Speaker 2: that way. But then they have just a little bit
Speaker 2: of a moment at his dad's wedding where of course
Speaker 2: he brings her as his date because he doesn't bring
Speaker 2: the girls he hooks up with because he doesn't want
Speaker 2: anyone to think that he's like ready to date. And
Speaker 2: then they have a bit of a moment at the
Speaker 2: dad's wedding on the dance floor and he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: what does this mean? And then she says, Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: going to Scotland for works for six weeks. While she's
Speaker 2: away in Scotland, he starts to think, maybe I'm in
Speaker 2: love with Hannah, maybe she's the one, Maybe she's not
Speaker 2: just my best friend.
Speaker 3: Was sleeping with women on the Saturday.
Speaker 2: Still you gotta get yours. So when she comes back
Speaker 2: six weeks later, he's like, I'm gonna tell her I'm
Speaker 2: in love with her. And a lot of it is
Speaker 2: just that he's really lonely and it's kind of sick
Speaker 2: of hooking up with all those women and he misses
Speaker 2: his companion really, but Hannah comes so hard. It's so
Speaker 2: hard being rich and having all this time in the world.
Speaker 2: It's not good for the mind and body. So plot twist,
Speaker 2: he gets the airport and Hannah has come back from
Speaker 2: Scotland with a man, with her fiance with her fiancee. Yeahah,
Speaker 2: they fell in love, I know, because she was like
Speaker 2: stranded in Scotland and he saves her. And he's like
Speaker 2: the heir to this very rich family. He's like a
Speaker 2: low understand engagement Colin. He's from a very rich family
Speaker 2: who like invented Scotch or something like that. Played by
Speaker 2: Kevin McKidd who plays Owen on Grey's Anatomy. He was
Speaker 2: actually Scottish, but on Greys Anatomy here has an American accent.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, was this before Greys Anatomy? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's like young.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like rugged Scotchman, and so Hannah's like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm in love with him. I'm gonna move
Speaker 2: to Scotland. I love his family. We're gonna be together.
Speaker 2: And she's like, Tom, I want you to be my
Speaker 2: maid of honor, as in like my best man, because
Speaker 2: you're my golden Yeah, exactly. So then it's this whole thing,
Speaker 2: and then they all go to Scotland for this big,
Speaker 2: fancy wedding and a castle. It's one of those like
Speaker 2: week long weddings, and the whole time, Patrick Dempsey's character
Speaker 2: is trying to make Hannah fall in love with him
Speaker 2: and like sabotage the wedding, and it's this whole thing
Speaker 2: of like.
Speaker 3: Him trying to like I can't just leave women.
Speaker 2: I know, this whole thing.
Speaker 3: He goes two years to do this.
Speaker 2: She's like he like literally the night before her wedding
Speaker 2: half hooks up with another woman. Busy Phillips's character, she's
Speaker 2: so good in.
Speaker 3: This because it's like, no, you can't kick a habit
Speaker 3: even if it's a Saturday. His clock is something that's
Speaker 3: missing right.
Speaker 2: Now, and so it's actually a really good cast.
Speaker 3: So Busy Phillips is just in Everythinguzy Phillips.
Speaker 2: Is in it, Whitney Cummings is in it. It's a
Speaker 2: really good cast. Yeah. Like, literally the night before her wedding,
Speaker 2: like she thinks, oh, maybe I do want to be
Speaker 2: in love with Tom and he's kissing Busy Phillips. To
Speaker 2: be fair, he did try to stop the kiss and
Speaker 2: then he's literally banging on her door the night before
Speaker 2: her wedding, being like, I want to marry you, and
Speaker 2: she's like, go away, I'm marrying Colin.
Speaker 3: So she literally sends the room guys need a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also try to make like Scottish traditions
Speaker 2: look really yuck. And I was like, how dare you how?
Speaker 2: It's a very romantic place, and then yeah, exactly. That's
Speaker 2: the thing. One of the reasons she doesn't want to
Speaker 2: marry him is he wears a kilt for his wedding.
Speaker 2: Oh my, he looks hot.
Speaker 3: Forget the one you don't deserve, Colin.
Speaker 2: I'll marry Colin. I still want to role still available.
Speaker 2: I'll go live in a castle in Scotland. So good.
Speaker 2: So literally, you have Patrick Dempsey in the last year
Speaker 2: riding a horse towards Hannah's wedding to like break it.
Speaker 3: Up where the horse.
Speaker 2: Well, he was leaving the wedding. Then he decides that
Speaker 2: he can't do that, and so the whole thing is
Speaker 2: them kissing and they go back to New York, and
Speaker 2: the whole thing is that they fall in love. Mum. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she leaves him in Scotland. It's the whole thing. But
Speaker 2: you know what, he dodged a bullet. I do believe
Speaker 2: he did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not gonna last.
Speaker 2: So my thing is that they it was all hot
Speaker 2: and sexy in Scotland after they broke up the wedding.
Speaker 2: They got on the plane once they landed and they
Speaker 2: got back home and she was like, okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: to work now, and like we're in a relationship. Do
Speaker 2: we live together? And he's like, oh, like he didn't
Speaker 2: think it. He didn't think this through. It's the whole
Speaker 2: thing that we see in rom comms of like the
Speaker 2: guy only wants the girl once he realizes someone else
Speaker 2: wants her, or because he wants to keep her there
Speaker 2: as like companionship into like y you know now she.
Speaker 3: Would have thrown off his routine. Yeah, and he loved
Speaker 3: his routine.
Speaker 2: He loved his routine. So his thing is like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'll just marry her and we'll sleep together and we'll
Speaker 2: be great. But you just know the moment these guys
Speaker 2: go back to New York, Prick, it all crumbled away.
Speaker 2: Patrick Dempsey, that man has rouen so much, baby, this everything,
Speaker 2: so come on, put a stop exactly. This is a
Speaker 2: caveat that. I just need our producer Minitia to not
Speaker 2: listen to this because she's going to be quite upset.
Speaker 2: But I rewatched this movie recently and I just thought
Speaker 2: these guys did not end up together. And it's the
Speaker 2: movie music and lyrics is literally crying, starring Hugh Grant
Speaker 2: and Drew Barrymore, Queen of our Hearts when it comes
Speaker 2: strong comms, you've seen this movie.
Speaker 3: I've seen this movie ages ago coms that I like
Speaker 3: see on repeat. Though, yeah, I watch it like it
Speaker 3: was one.
Speaker 2: Well, as I said, I watched Drew Braymore movies on
Speaker 2: repeat that I do love Hugh grand in everything, but
Speaker 2: this whole set okay, So if you're a cross, Hugh
Speaker 2: Grant in this movie plays Alex, who is a failed
Speaker 2: pop star. He had this big pop group and they
Speaker 2: had a few hit songs. He lives with those royalties.
Speaker 2: But his partner played by Shane who's so good in
Speaker 2: this left him and stole their songs and now he
Speaker 2: just does little part time gigs where he gets up
Speaker 2: on stage and sings his old songs by himself and
Speaker 2: gets drunken stuff. So Drew Barrymore plays his plant waterer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's that housekeeper.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, she's just said water the plants. Oh that's
Speaker 2: a whole job.
Speaker 3: Why did I picture her in like a maid's outfit?
Speaker 2: She doesn't just know she's she's that whole like eclectic
Speaker 2: girl living in the big city like two Cardians, two.
Speaker 3: Job Becken documentary that they get paid quite a lot.
Speaker 2: Houseplant water is yeah, yeah, but no in a huge mansion.
Speaker 2: I understand that you have a person just four plants.
Speaker 2: And I was like, so if you're having to do
Speaker 2: these gigs a business partner, I was like, so, if
Speaker 2: you're worried about money, can I tell you if I
Speaker 2: looked at your budget, the first thing I would cut
Speaker 2: is your plant waterer.
Speaker 3: And maybe the plants as well.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can to water those four plants.
Speaker 2: It's different if you have an office space or a mansion.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so already their relationship is going to fail
Speaker 2: because it's set up on a silly idea. So he
Speaker 2: gets tasked to write this song for this pop star
Speaker 2: called Korra who's kind of loosely based on Britney Spears,
Speaker 2: and he can't come up with the lyrics because the
Speaker 2: lyrics would never his thing. The melody is his thing.
Speaker 2: And then he realizes Sophie, which is Drew Barrymore's character,
Speaker 2: is this amazing writer, but she stopped writing because again
Speaker 2: this has coming backs never been kissed dry Barrymore's full circle.
Speaker 2: She hooked up with her professor in college, who then
Speaker 2: wrote a book about her and completely shattered her confidence.
Speaker 2: So Drew Barrymore and Q Grant's characters hook up to
Speaker 2: write this song, and as that happens, they start to
Speaker 2: fall in love and it all culminates and that is Yeah.
Speaker 2: Those scenes were at the piano are very sweet, like
Speaker 2: the words and yeah, and then it all culminates with
Speaker 2: her I'm getting to that. So it all culminates with
Speaker 2: her thinking that he's sold their song without her and
Speaker 2: her like ending their partnership, and then him coming out
Speaker 2: on stage and singing this beautiful love song that he
Speaker 2: wrote just for her because he found the words once
Speaker 2: he thought of how much he was in love with her.
Speaker 3: It's very like Lizzie Maguires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, sure, that's not quite the same thing,
Speaker 2: but I guess there's a song at the end. There is,
Speaker 2: and that's what I was getting to. And that's literally
Speaker 2: the only thing the whole thing is. And we're supposed
Speaker 2: to think that Alex and Sophie live happily ever after.
Speaker 2: The thing is, these two don't have chemistry as people.
Speaker 2: That don't have chemistry as a couple. They only have
Speaker 2: chemistry as collaborators. So I believe they were collaborators who
Speaker 2: could occasionally have some good sex. But there's nothing about
Speaker 2: these too that made me think they stayed together. I
Speaker 2: think they hooked up a few times.
Speaker 3: I think Fleetwood Max situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, potentially, like they create good art together and that
Speaker 2: leads to good sex.
Speaker 3: I but you know what, I kind of agree. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not just saying that because I think it makes Manicia mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, she's been very quiet join the sulting.
Speaker 3: In fact, I think they should have never been together.
Speaker 2: Fired. I mean probably there's there's would have been better. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that in that moment. But yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: he does do a few nice things for her, like
Speaker 2: that scene where they meet the professor who wrote the
Speaker 2: book about her after he slept with her in the
Speaker 2: restaurant and she tries to confront him and he goes
Speaker 2: and like gets his friend to give her the red
Speaker 2: dress to put on. I really do so, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: a huge point of the movie, so that she looks
Speaker 2: gorgeous when she goes up to confront him, but that
Speaker 2: she can't do it. So then Hugh Grant's character comes
Speaker 2: over and does it and they get in a fight.
Speaker 2: It's a whole like it like getting insoide that's nice.
Speaker 2: But I just don't think that they could sit on
Speaker 2: the couch together, or like have a home together, or
Speaker 2: go grocery shopping together, or get married. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: So I believe they wanted to write a lot of
Speaker 2: songs together, hook up a lot. And then there's also
Speaker 2: a bit of a dick. Yeah, he was a bit
Speaker 2: of a dick, And I think that's kind of cute
Speaker 2: when like the jerk guy likes it's always kind of
Speaker 2: interesting when you're having sex with a guy who normally
Speaker 2: either ignores you, which he ignores her a lot or
Speaker 2: is kind of bit shitchy because in this one moment,
Speaker 2: their attention is completely on you and that's really addictive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so I think that is the basis for a
Speaker 2: lot of these rom coms of like the jerky guy
Speaker 2: who who decides to give her a chance, give her
Speaker 2: a chand and then you have sex and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: but he does. He gives me attention that moment. But
Speaker 2: I don't think that their relationship could extend beyond the
Speaker 2: piano in the bedroom. Yeah, so they didn't say.
Speaker 3: Any seems like where she'll be like, hey, babe, can
Speaker 3: you do this one thing for me? And you'll be like, oh,
Speaker 3: but you're so much better at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, could you want of those plans because
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it? Yeah, come on. So
Speaker 2: I hope we haven't crushed too many dreams today. I
Speaker 2: should say these are all great movies, because like if
Speaker 2: they were ship movies, we.
Speaker 3: I think we gave sound evidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as we said, not every movie is meant
Speaker 2: to be about a long lasting love. Sometimes it's just
Speaker 2: a story about two people who fall them up with
Speaker 2: the moment and then the beauty from rom Com is
Speaker 2: the credits role. We never have to deal with the fallout,
Speaker 2: and that's why Romcom should never have sequels. I'm a
Speaker 2: big believer in it, okay, because then you have to
Speaker 2: break up the couple in a way or try and
Speaker 2: figure it away.
Speaker 3: How they say to me, another problem.
Speaker 2: They have to be one and done.
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