1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:23,145 Speaker 1: is recorded on hi Ubi's Kelly here. I am obsessed 4 00:00:23,185 --> 00:00:26,465 Speaker 1: with Pinterest and this little episode of Nothing to Wear 5 00:00:26,585 --> 00:00:29,625 Speaker 1: has exploded my mind with all of the hacks that 6 00:00:29,705 --> 00:00:32,025 Speaker 1: I can use to up my pinning game. I just 7 00:00:32,105 --> 00:00:33,465 Speaker 1: had to share enjoy. 8 00:00:35,865 --> 00:00:38,665 Speaker 2: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously. 9 00:00:38,265 --> 00:00:41,225 Speaker 1: Disturved laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 10 00:00:41,465 --> 00:00:43,785 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 11 00:00:43,865 --> 00:00:44,585 Speaker 2: for fashion. 12 00:00:45,865 --> 00:00:48,745 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 13 00:00:48,825 --> 00:00:52,745 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 14 00:00:52,785 --> 00:00:55,305 Speaker 1: and every week I chat to an expert who helps 15 00:00:55,385 --> 00:00:57,065 Speaker 1: us work out how to get more out of the 16 00:00:57,105 --> 00:01:00,265 Speaker 1: clothes we already own and tells us exactly what is 17 00:01:00,385 --> 00:01:03,545 Speaker 1: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. And one of 18 00:01:03,585 --> 00:01:05,585 Speaker 1: the keys to getting more out of the clothes we 19 00:01:05,625 --> 00:01:08,825 Speaker 1: already own isn't actually in our wardrobe, It's in our phone. 20 00:01:09,665 --> 00:01:12,265 Speaker 1: Our guest today has an incredible eye for spotting trends 21 00:01:12,305 --> 00:01:15,145 Speaker 1: before they hit the mainstream, and she knows how to 22 00:01:15,145 --> 00:01:18,545 Speaker 1: make those trends personal and unique. I'm talking about our 23 00:01:18,585 --> 00:01:21,905 Speaker 1: resident social media guru here at Mamma Mia Live James. 24 00:01:22,385 --> 00:01:24,465 Speaker 1: You might have seen Live on our socials. She hits 25 00:01:24,505 --> 00:01:26,985 Speaker 1: for streets and ask people lots of weird questions, but 26 00:01:27,105 --> 00:01:32,145 Speaker 1: she is also a styling, social and shopping guru. Live 27 00:01:32,265 --> 00:01:35,385 Speaker 1: knows more about Pinterest than anyone I've ever met. She's 28 00:01:35,425 --> 00:01:38,025 Speaker 1: going to talk us through how to curate your own boards, 29 00:01:38,225 --> 00:01:41,185 Speaker 1: how to search the biggest trends coming up in fashion 30 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:43,585 Speaker 1: that are about to be everywhere that we're all over 31 00:01:43,625 --> 00:01:46,505 Speaker 1: Pinterest first, and how she uses it to create an 32 00:01:46,545 --> 00:01:49,705 Speaker 1: algorithm that is exactly for her so she never has 33 00:01:49,785 --> 00:01:52,545 Speaker 1: to wonder what to wear get ready for Live, Secrets 34 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:56,705 Speaker 1: for turning your pinterest worthy ideas into realistic outfits. Live 35 00:01:56,785 --> 00:02:00,665 Speaker 1: James k honestly have not been more excited for an episode. 36 00:02:01,145 --> 00:02:04,305 Speaker 1: Shut up. So to give the listeners a bit of 37 00:02:04,305 --> 00:02:07,025 Speaker 1: a background story. You work here at MAMAMEA. What's your 38 00:02:07,025 --> 00:02:07,585 Speaker 1: actual job? 39 00:02:07,785 --> 00:02:09,585 Speaker 2: I am the lifestyle social producer. 40 00:02:09,665 --> 00:02:11,625 Speaker 1: Okay, so social media is your life as in you 41 00:02:11,625 --> 00:02:14,465 Speaker 1: are paid to do. Yes, you are very good at it, 42 00:02:14,505 --> 00:02:16,065 Speaker 1: but I don't get to spend that much timing with 43 00:02:16,105 --> 00:02:17,865 Speaker 1: you anymore because for those that don't know if you're 44 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:20,145 Speaker 1: not permanent, part time or full time here at Mamma Me. 45 00:02:20,225 --> 00:02:21,825 Speaker 1: You don't get a desk. You just kind of have 46 00:02:21,865 --> 00:02:23,705 Speaker 1: to wander around aimlessly and hope that you will be 47 00:02:23,705 --> 00:02:25,625 Speaker 1: able to sit somewhere. And a couple of weeks ago, 48 00:02:25,745 --> 00:02:27,705 Speaker 1: I got to sit next to Live James, and it 49 00:02:27,745 --> 00:02:29,265 Speaker 1: was the best and the worst day of my life 50 00:02:29,305 --> 00:02:32,825 Speaker 1: because I spent so much money and she had the 51 00:02:32,825 --> 00:02:35,585 Speaker 1: best product recommendations, the best tips, and from that was 52 00:02:35,585 --> 00:02:39,385 Speaker 1: sort of born this idea this episode. So Live James, Yes, 53 00:02:39,505 --> 00:02:42,225 Speaker 1: I'm going to make you describe your own style in 54 00:02:42,345 --> 00:02:42,985 Speaker 1: three words. 55 00:02:43,105 --> 00:02:46,985 Speaker 2: Okay. Sometimes you'll look at yourself and you'll wish your something. 56 00:02:46,825 --> 00:02:49,345 Speaker 1: Yes, other than what you are, what you're putting out there. Yeah. 57 00:02:49,425 --> 00:02:52,825 Speaker 2: So I came up with my three words eclectic, playful 58 00:02:52,905 --> 00:02:53,585 Speaker 2: and vintage. 59 00:02:53,705 --> 00:02:55,985 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you in a person you in three words? 60 00:02:56,025 --> 00:02:56,785 Speaker 2: Thank you very much? 61 00:02:56,865 --> 00:02:57,225 Speaker 1: Okay? 62 00:02:57,265 --> 00:02:59,905 Speaker 2: And I told the team right, and Julian said you 63 00:02:59,905 --> 00:03:02,105 Speaker 2: should probably put chaos in there too. 64 00:03:02,345 --> 00:03:05,305 Speaker 1: Okay. So Julian is another video producer here at Mamma 65 00:03:05,345 --> 00:03:09,025 Speaker 1: mea who we adore, but he doesn't understand the difference 66 00:03:09,025 --> 00:03:11,265 Speaker 1: between and yes and. 67 00:03:11,385 --> 00:03:15,785 Speaker 2: Eclectic but exactly he wasn't that wrong, but I like 68 00:03:15,825 --> 00:03:18,265 Speaker 2: to think that I'm slightly more you know how Jane 69 00:03:18,305 --> 00:03:20,025 Speaker 2: Burkin treats her burken bags. 70 00:03:20,145 --> 00:03:21,665 Speaker 1: Yes, I latches them. 71 00:03:21,745 --> 00:03:25,505 Speaker 2: Yes, so like good bones but with some personal chaos. Yes, 72 00:03:25,665 --> 00:03:26,425 Speaker 2: that's what I'm into. 73 00:03:26,665 --> 00:03:29,825 Speaker 1: I love that so much, and I feel like it 74 00:03:29,865 --> 00:03:31,945 Speaker 1: looks good at the end, like there's people that can 75 00:03:31,985 --> 00:03:34,985 Speaker 1: do a bit of chaos deliberately it looks great or 76 00:03:35,145 --> 00:03:38,705 Speaker 1: really just like whoa, what happened with your lights out? Yeah? 77 00:03:39,025 --> 00:03:42,105 Speaker 1: You always look really different and unique but cool. 78 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:43,465 Speaker 2: That's so nice. Thanks. 79 00:03:43,505 --> 00:03:43,625 Speaker 1: Well. 80 00:03:43,665 --> 00:03:46,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess like it is an artistic process 81 00:03:46,585 --> 00:03:48,505 Speaker 2: in the end, like I lay it all out before 82 00:03:48,585 --> 00:03:49,665 Speaker 2: I get dressed in the morning. 83 00:03:49,825 --> 00:03:52,785 Speaker 1: With my next question, so your personal style philosophy and 84 00:03:52,825 --> 00:03:55,305 Speaker 1: how you get dressed? Yes, do you think about it? 85 00:03:55,705 --> 00:03:59,385 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I will organize my outfit the night before I 86 00:03:59,425 --> 00:04:01,585 Speaker 2: can't go to sleep. If I don't, I'll lay it 87 00:04:01,625 --> 00:04:04,545 Speaker 2: out on the ground and I'll like put my shoes 88 00:04:04,585 --> 00:04:06,585 Speaker 2: next to it and make sure all the colors match. 89 00:04:06,905 --> 00:04:08,265 Speaker 2: Put my socks next, like you're. 90 00:04:08,105 --> 00:04:10,505 Speaker 1: Doing a flat light. Yeah, yeah, you social media in 91 00:04:10,505 --> 00:04:13,385 Speaker 1: real life. Literally, Now, look before we get into the topic, 92 00:04:13,545 --> 00:04:15,825 Speaker 1: you know this saying, and it's pretty true for a 93 00:04:15,865 --> 00:04:17,745 Speaker 1: lot of people. You were ten percent of your order 94 00:04:17,785 --> 00:04:19,865 Speaker 1: of ninety percent of the time. So the stuff you 95 00:04:19,905 --> 00:04:22,065 Speaker 1: really love, what's in your ten percent. 96 00:04:22,305 --> 00:04:25,865 Speaker 2: I have these pair of added as sombers. They're maroon. 97 00:04:25,985 --> 00:04:29,265 Speaker 2: I've got them on right now. Actually, maroon has become 98 00:04:29,545 --> 00:04:32,025 Speaker 2: a neutral for me. Yes. And then I have a 99 00:04:32,185 --> 00:04:34,985 Speaker 2: jacket so in the colder months, I have a jacket 100 00:04:35,025 --> 00:04:39,025 Speaker 2: in the same maroon lever, so I'll wear that. And 101 00:04:39,065 --> 00:04:42,865 Speaker 2: then socks. Colored socks I literally had in my three lists. 102 00:04:42,865 --> 00:04:44,305 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, colored, how do you have the. 103 00:04:44,225 --> 00:04:44,825 Speaker 1: Socks of your gun? 104 00:04:44,905 --> 00:04:46,945 Speaker 2: I think I've got my over fifty. 105 00:04:46,905 --> 00:04:49,745 Speaker 1: Like you look for shoes that you can wear socks with. Yeah, 106 00:04:50,025 --> 00:04:52,385 Speaker 1: it might be a sock episode, but it's not due 107 00:04:52,425 --> 00:04:54,505 Speaker 1: to your job, but also your personal interests. You are 108 00:04:54,585 --> 00:04:57,905 Speaker 1: a pinterest pro and pinterest is kind of a little 109 00:04:57,945 --> 00:05:00,585 Speaker 1: forgotten platform. I think we're all over social media, but 110 00:05:00,625 --> 00:05:03,025 Speaker 1: do you reckon Pinterest is social media. 111 00:05:03,145 --> 00:05:06,025 Speaker 2: I grew up as a tumbler kid, So you would 112 00:05:06,065 --> 00:05:10,345 Speaker 2: have your own website. You'd be reposting all this inspirational quote, fashion, 113 00:05:10,425 --> 00:05:11,025 Speaker 2: all that kind of. 114 00:05:11,025 --> 00:05:14,025 Speaker 1: Stuff like blurry, sparkly delitter photos and yamsati. 115 00:05:14,105 --> 00:05:16,705 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. And then I stopped doing that and 116 00:05:16,745 --> 00:05:20,225 Speaker 2: I got into Pinterest because Pinterest has the best algorithm 117 00:05:20,385 --> 00:05:23,505 Speaker 2: of any social media platform, and that shows my giekiness 118 00:05:23,505 --> 00:05:25,905 Speaker 2: about my job. But no, it truly does, like it 119 00:05:26,025 --> 00:05:28,505 Speaker 2: learns you like the back of its hand, like it's crazy. 120 00:05:28,665 --> 00:05:31,545 Speaker 1: So as a user, if I play around on their 121 00:05:31,545 --> 00:05:33,465 Speaker 1: searching for things I like, it really gets it right, 122 00:05:33,505 --> 00:05:34,185 Speaker 1: giving me what I. 123 00:05:34,145 --> 00:05:37,785 Speaker 2: Want absolutely, And you say it feels underground. But it's 124 00:05:37,785 --> 00:05:41,905 Speaker 2: got over five hundred and thirty seven million users a year. Okay, 125 00:05:41,985 --> 00:05:44,305 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of people using it because. 126 00:05:44,025 --> 00:05:46,385 Speaker 1: I use it, but I don't know how to use. 127 00:05:46,465 --> 00:05:48,465 Speaker 1: All I do is I type in you know, summer 128 00:05:48,505 --> 00:05:52,185 Speaker 1: street style or you know, brown cross body outfits or whatever, 129 00:05:52,225 --> 00:05:54,345 Speaker 1: and then I get served amazing things that I want. 130 00:05:54,465 --> 00:05:56,425 Speaker 1: But then I've got some boards that are private, but 131 00:05:56,465 --> 00:05:58,905 Speaker 1: I'm not a creator on there. I'm not a public pinner. 132 00:05:59,185 --> 00:06:01,345 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. So I'm so interested to 133 00:06:01,385 --> 00:06:04,345 Speaker 1: hear more about how you use it and what you've discovered. 134 00:06:04,385 --> 00:06:06,905 Speaker 1: So I want to ask about some trends for this year. 135 00:06:07,065 --> 00:06:09,665 Speaker 1: Yes where now officially into twenty twenty five, because yeah, 136 00:06:09,665 --> 00:06:12,625 Speaker 1: you're official start, yeah, yeah, So what are the biggest 137 00:06:12,625 --> 00:06:15,225 Speaker 1: fashion trends you've noticed for this year so far. Is 138 00:06:15,225 --> 00:06:17,985 Speaker 1: there anything that's crazy stuff that you reckon that's going 139 00:06:18,025 --> 00:06:19,705 Speaker 1: to stick around even though it's the start. 140 00:06:19,505 --> 00:06:21,745 Speaker 2: Of the year. Yeah. So Pinterest is really good because 141 00:06:21,785 --> 00:06:24,585 Speaker 2: it's got that five hundred million people using it every day, 142 00:06:24,625 --> 00:06:26,505 Speaker 2: and you do need to use Pinterest every day if 143 00:06:26,505 --> 00:06:28,345 Speaker 2: you want it to really learn who you are and 144 00:06:28,385 --> 00:06:28,905 Speaker 2: what you like. 145 00:06:29,025 --> 00:06:29,705 Speaker 1: Oh yikes. 146 00:06:29,825 --> 00:06:30,065 Speaker 2: Yeah. 147 00:06:30,105 --> 00:06:32,145 Speaker 1: For the purpose of this episode, it's just people using 148 00:06:32,185 --> 00:06:33,745 Speaker 1: it to look at pictures, not uploading. 149 00:06:34,025 --> 00:06:36,905 Speaker 2: No, you don't have to upload. I don't upload anything. Great, 150 00:06:36,985 --> 00:06:40,225 Speaker 2: but you repin and some creators like you could attach 151 00:06:40,305 --> 00:06:42,385 Speaker 2: your Instagram so it automatically uploads. 152 00:06:42,665 --> 00:06:45,905 Speaker 1: Oh hang on, is repin the same as saving it 153 00:06:45,945 --> 00:06:47,425 Speaker 1: to a board? Yes, okay, great. 154 00:06:47,505 --> 00:06:49,865 Speaker 2: Yeah, so then it will learn what you like, what 155 00:06:49,945 --> 00:06:52,385 Speaker 2: styles you like, and then what they do at the 156 00:06:52,465 --> 00:06:54,585 Speaker 2: end of every year, which is like my second favorite 157 00:06:54,785 --> 00:06:57,345 Speaker 2: day of the year compared to like the metgalap They 158 00:06:57,385 --> 00:07:02,105 Speaker 2: do Pinterest predicts, right, so they take everything that they've 159 00:07:02,145 --> 00:07:04,585 Speaker 2: learnt about their users, like kind of what they're searching 160 00:07:04,585 --> 00:07:07,105 Speaker 2: and what they're pinning, and they create a whole prediction 161 00:07:07,265 --> 00:07:09,025 Speaker 2: of what the next year's trends are going to be. 162 00:07:09,105 --> 00:07:11,945 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and there's some pretty interesting trends. 163 00:07:12,025 --> 00:07:12,785 Speaker 1: Live tell me. 164 00:07:13,025 --> 00:07:15,505 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going to show you some images from 165 00:07:15,545 --> 00:07:18,705 Speaker 2: the trends that I've found on the Pinterest predicts. If 166 00:07:18,745 --> 00:07:20,705 Speaker 2: you are listening and you'd like to see these images 167 00:07:20,705 --> 00:07:22,665 Speaker 2: as well, you can click a link in our show 168 00:07:22,665 --> 00:07:25,425 Speaker 2: notes and it will take you to the YouTube video. Okay, 169 00:07:25,665 --> 00:07:29,065 Speaker 2: the first one, it's called cherry Coded, and you can 170 00:07:29,105 --> 00:07:30,825 Speaker 2: see a pair of cherry shoes. Here. 171 00:07:31,145 --> 00:07:33,225 Speaker 1: You have made a slide show. 172 00:07:33,345 --> 00:07:35,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a little slideshow for you because I 173 00:07:35,625 --> 00:07:39,545 Speaker 2: think there's like fifty right right. They have pretty crazy names, 174 00:07:39,985 --> 00:07:42,905 Speaker 2: and people can get a bit intimidated by the fact that, like, 175 00:07:43,345 --> 00:07:45,545 Speaker 2: you know, you've got like castle Core, You've got all 176 00:07:45,545 --> 00:07:47,905 Speaker 2: these names that sound very intense, but I think the 177 00:07:47,945 --> 00:07:50,425 Speaker 2: success of them comes down the little details. 178 00:07:50,505 --> 00:07:50,625 Speaker 1: Right. 179 00:07:50,705 --> 00:07:53,385 Speaker 2: Yes, this is just cherry coded. So it's basically just 180 00:07:53,945 --> 00:07:55,625 Speaker 2: the cherry color that you think of when you think 181 00:07:55,665 --> 00:07:56,185 Speaker 2: of a cherry. 182 00:07:56,265 --> 00:07:58,665 Speaker 1: Okay. I mean there's versions of red that we've had 183 00:07:58,705 --> 00:08:01,825 Speaker 1: really deep burgundep then we've had like that almost tomato 184 00:08:01,905 --> 00:08:03,745 Speaker 1: red cherries somewhere in the middle. 185 00:08:03,625 --> 00:08:06,025 Speaker 2: Cherries in the middle. I think it's increased by two 186 00:08:06,305 --> 00:08:08,905 Speaker 2: hundred percent for Pinterest users when they're searching. 187 00:08:09,025 --> 00:08:11,025 Speaker 1: So we've seen and boots, we've seen it like a 188 00:08:11,065 --> 00:08:12,305 Speaker 1: semishar stocking. I'm in. 189 00:08:12,865 --> 00:08:15,185 Speaker 2: So it's in the details, particularly for this one. So 190 00:08:15,225 --> 00:08:19,465 Speaker 2: it's like accessories, but also a cherry infographic or something 191 00:08:19,545 --> 00:08:22,505 Speaker 2: like that, and on graphic Ta tea. Yeah, so it's 192 00:08:22,505 --> 00:08:22,945 Speaker 2: so cute. 193 00:08:23,225 --> 00:08:25,585 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't find that scary and I feel like 194 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:27,265 Speaker 1: I've only got pops of red in my wardrobe or 195 00:08:27,305 --> 00:08:31,625 Speaker 1: I've seen enough in stores. I'm into this, yes, exactly. 196 00:08:31,745 --> 00:08:34,785 Speaker 1: I'm completely doable. Also because I love color. 197 00:08:35,225 --> 00:08:37,385 Speaker 2: Pinterest is really helpful in that sense because you can 198 00:08:37,385 --> 00:08:39,825 Speaker 2: see how people will use a cherry color like this. 199 00:08:40,025 --> 00:08:42,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're one of the photos. This lovely Lady's got 200 00:08:42,225 --> 00:08:44,145 Speaker 1: shoes and tops in the red cherry red and then 201 00:08:44,185 --> 00:08:46,705 Speaker 1: a sky blue duck egg blue pants, which I would 202 00:08:46,745 --> 00:08:49,305 Speaker 1: never walk into my own wardrobe and put together. 203 00:08:49,345 --> 00:08:51,185 Speaker 2: But do you know what interesting about that photo? I 204 00:08:51,265 --> 00:08:53,705 Speaker 2: picked it because on the color wheel, those are both 205 00:08:53,705 --> 00:08:56,745 Speaker 2: opposite each other, so they go together, and that's something 206 00:08:56,745 --> 00:08:59,825 Speaker 2: that you can look at toasting the show. But like, 207 00:09:00,145 --> 00:09:02,305 Speaker 2: that's also something I'll do on Pinterest too if I 208 00:09:02,305 --> 00:09:05,225 Speaker 2: don't know what to wear with a certain color, I'll go, Okay, 209 00:09:05,265 --> 00:09:07,465 Speaker 2: i've got this light blue shirt on. I'll go and 210 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:09,905 Speaker 2: I'll look up light blue color palette and then it 211 00:09:09,945 --> 00:09:11,825 Speaker 2: will give me heaps of color palettes and show me 212 00:09:11,865 --> 00:09:13,265 Speaker 2: colors that go with it. 213 00:09:13,265 --> 00:09:15,225 Speaker 1: It's just opened up my mind to the ways I'm 214 00:09:15,225 --> 00:09:17,625 Speaker 1: not using it. And also, like you say, with the algorithm, 215 00:09:17,665 --> 00:09:19,945 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of this, so obviously the vast 216 00:09:19,945 --> 00:09:21,985 Speaker 1: majority are looking at this color, but mine's still just 217 00:09:22,025 --> 00:09:24,745 Speaker 1: in the minimalist vortex I've created for it because it 218 00:09:24,785 --> 00:09:26,065 Speaker 1: knows I probably won't do that. 219 00:09:26,265 --> 00:09:28,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's clever. Yeah, it is very clever. 220 00:09:28,865 --> 00:09:32,225 Speaker 1: Okay, what's the next one? Is it gonna get scarier? 221 00:09:32,945 --> 00:09:37,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit scarier. The next one is Fisherman Aesthetic. Okay, 222 00:09:37,345 --> 00:09:42,265 Speaker 2: Fisherman Aesthetic sounds crazy and it can get a little 223 00:09:42,305 --> 00:09:44,785 Speaker 2: bit nuts, but I actually love it because I think 224 00:09:44,785 --> 00:09:47,065 Speaker 2: it's like it's turned the dial up a little bit 225 00:09:47,105 --> 00:09:48,025 Speaker 2: for coastal grammar. 226 00:09:48,225 --> 00:09:49,305 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, good. 227 00:09:49,385 --> 00:09:51,585 Speaker 2: It does have certain elements where you're like, oh, that's 228 00:09:51,585 --> 00:09:54,865 Speaker 2: a bit brave. It's using a lot of netting but thinking. 229 00:09:54,625 --> 00:09:56,665 Speaker 1: Bags, So you know, I'm down with that. 230 00:09:56,825 --> 00:09:58,945 Speaker 2: Netted bags and stripes. 231 00:09:59,425 --> 00:10:01,745 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a bit like a market bag, sort of 232 00:10:01,985 --> 00:10:03,305 Speaker 1: like you've gone to the fish market. 233 00:10:03,425 --> 00:10:07,105 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, like that, and then think Wes Anderson, he 234 00:10:07,425 --> 00:10:09,945 Speaker 2: like the director, and all the little beanies that people 235 00:10:09,945 --> 00:10:14,025 Speaker 2: wear and bright colors. Think that, and then cable knit. 236 00:10:14,385 --> 00:10:17,265 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's a little bit nautical, but less I 237 00:10:17,345 --> 00:10:19,145 Speaker 1: have a fancy yacht, and more I have a little 238 00:10:19,145 --> 00:10:22,145 Speaker 1: fishing boat. Yes exactly, Okay, I'm really into that. And 239 00:10:22,185 --> 00:10:24,825 Speaker 1: some shells I've seen some shells. Shells are kind of 240 00:10:24,945 --> 00:10:26,225 Speaker 1: falls a little bit. 241 00:10:26,425 --> 00:10:30,625 Speaker 2: And waterproof clothing, so think like fries a, bone coats, 242 00:10:30,905 --> 00:10:32,665 Speaker 2: gum boots, all that kind of stuff. 243 00:10:32,745 --> 00:10:35,545 Speaker 1: Okay, see, we need you to decode these because if 244 00:10:35,545 --> 00:10:37,505 Speaker 1: I've read this prediction list of what I've been like Pinterest, 245 00:10:37,505 --> 00:10:39,105 Speaker 1: it's drunk. Okay. 246 00:10:39,145 --> 00:10:40,465 Speaker 2: So the next trend I'm going to show you is 247 00:10:40,505 --> 00:10:42,825 Speaker 2: castle core. What I want you to think about here 248 00:10:42,945 --> 00:10:47,185 Speaker 2: is kind of whimsy tool medieval details but not to 249 00:10:47,265 --> 00:10:47,905 Speaker 2: the extreme. 250 00:10:48,185 --> 00:10:49,545 Speaker 1: Okay, so not a dress up party. 251 00:10:49,665 --> 00:10:51,945 Speaker 2: No, you're not going to bring a sword, You're all good. 252 00:10:52,345 --> 00:10:56,665 Speaker 2: And then also probably like silks and kind of velvet 253 00:10:57,385 --> 00:10:59,785 Speaker 2: corseting details but not like corsets. 254 00:10:59,865 --> 00:11:01,825 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm feeling it. So it's a bit sort of 255 00:11:01,905 --> 00:11:04,425 Speaker 1: romantic and metal. I get it. 256 00:11:04,505 --> 00:11:07,665 Speaker 2: The necklace I have on today castle Core right intricate 257 00:11:07,745 --> 00:11:11,505 Speaker 2: detailing engravings that feel kind of vintage and like like 258 00:11:11,705 --> 00:11:12,305 Speaker 2: it could. 259 00:11:12,185 --> 00:11:15,465 Speaker 1: Be on a shield that you're fighting. 260 00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:18,225 Speaker 2: Exactly like that. And we've got like a necklace like that. 261 00:11:18,385 --> 00:11:22,985 Speaker 2: So brass, gold, laced up boots, all that kind of stuff. 262 00:11:23,225 --> 00:11:23,745 Speaker 1: The romantic. 263 00:11:24,585 --> 00:11:28,025 Speaker 2: So you're thinking like whimsical and like kind of floaty. 264 00:11:28,385 --> 00:11:30,625 Speaker 2: So I was doing a bit of research last night 265 00:11:31,025 --> 00:11:33,625 Speaker 2: and I saw a lot of designers are taking inspiration 266 00:11:33,705 --> 00:11:36,625 Speaker 2: from this kind of trend. Specifically, you know, John Paul 267 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:40,825 Speaker 2: Gautier and Isabelle Mornt are really pulling little details from it. 268 00:11:41,265 --> 00:11:44,865 Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. It's like romantic slash scary. Yeah, 269 00:11:54,345 --> 00:11:56,305 Speaker 1: I want you to talk all things Pinterests from a 270 00:11:56,385 --> 00:12:00,545 Speaker 1: user and from a professional social media person. Absolutely, how 271 00:12:00,585 --> 00:12:03,545 Speaker 1: do you organize your Pinterest boards? I laughed there because 272 00:12:03,585 --> 00:12:05,905 Speaker 1: I up until recently was just screenshotting them and keeping 273 00:12:05,945 --> 00:12:07,785 Speaker 1: them in my phone. That's how old I am. But 274 00:12:07,865 --> 00:12:10,425 Speaker 1: now I have thoughts I have. I've got a trip 275 00:12:10,465 --> 00:12:12,345 Speaker 1: coming up, so I've got to look somewhat for that. 276 00:12:12,745 --> 00:12:15,305 Speaker 1: I've got some jewelry boards of things I'm getting there. 277 00:12:15,465 --> 00:12:17,505 Speaker 1: How do you organize your boards? And are they public 278 00:12:17,585 --> 00:12:18,465 Speaker 1: or private? No? 279 00:12:18,545 --> 00:12:20,265 Speaker 2: So, well that's a really good start what you're saying. 280 00:12:20,305 --> 00:12:23,625 Speaker 2: So I actually don't do too many crazy boards. I 281 00:12:23,665 --> 00:12:27,065 Speaker 2: have one for fashion, one for jewelry, one for nails. Well, 282 00:12:27,065 --> 00:12:29,425 Speaker 2: I guess I have quite a few, one for makeup, 283 00:12:29,465 --> 00:12:30,905 Speaker 2: one for interiors, like that kind of thing. 284 00:12:30,945 --> 00:12:32,505 Speaker 1: That's fine because I feel like if I file them 285 00:12:32,545 --> 00:12:34,185 Speaker 1: into too many categories, I won't find them again. 286 00:12:34,305 --> 00:12:34,665 Speaker 2: Exactly. 287 00:12:34,745 --> 00:12:36,785 Speaker 1: So when I open my fashion one, I don't know 288 00:12:36,825 --> 00:12:38,105 Speaker 1: what I want to wear, so I want to see 289 00:12:38,145 --> 00:12:39,905 Speaker 1: lots of different options exactly. 290 00:12:40,105 --> 00:12:42,425 Speaker 2: I am so like that as well. You do not 291 00:12:42,625 --> 00:12:45,385 Speaker 2: need to make them public at all. It doesn't impact 292 00:12:45,465 --> 00:12:47,705 Speaker 2: how the algorithm works, it doesn't impact. 293 00:12:47,385 --> 00:12:49,225 Speaker 1: How regularly, So you can just keep it to yourself. 294 00:12:49,265 --> 00:12:50,145 Speaker 2: You can keep it to yourself. 295 00:12:50,145 --> 00:12:50,665 Speaker 1: I like that. 296 00:12:50,785 --> 00:12:52,905 Speaker 2: You can share it. What I do like doing is 297 00:12:52,905 --> 00:12:56,025 Speaker 2: sharing it with actual specific friends. So if you wanted 298 00:12:56,025 --> 00:12:58,665 Speaker 2: to share with your husband the jewelry that you've been pinning, 299 00:12:58,705 --> 00:12:59,865 Speaker 2: you can just add him to. 300 00:12:59,825 --> 00:13:01,545 Speaker 1: It, so you could, you know, if you were trying 301 00:13:01,585 --> 00:13:04,225 Speaker 1: to style all different color dresses for hens or something, 302 00:13:04,265 --> 00:13:06,225 Speaker 1: you could share it with all the hens or whatever. 303 00:13:06,265 --> 00:13:08,545 Speaker 1: It may be friends of ours had a party recently 304 00:13:08,585 --> 00:13:10,705 Speaker 1: where it was a joint forty was quite dressy and 305 00:13:10,745 --> 00:13:12,545 Speaker 1: they had a dress code and it was really confusing. 306 00:13:12,545 --> 00:13:14,545 Speaker 1: So they just created a pinteress board and just sent 307 00:13:14,585 --> 00:13:16,385 Speaker 1: it around and I was like, oh my god, great. 308 00:13:16,465 --> 00:13:18,345 Speaker 1: You know, there's all the colors we need to work with, 309 00:13:18,345 --> 00:13:22,305 Speaker 1: but there's dressy options, casual options on dressings male and female. 310 00:13:22,305 --> 00:13:24,585 Speaker 1: And it was like, Okay, that's the vibe. It's the 311 00:13:24,745 --> 00:13:27,025 Speaker 1: vibe rather than words exactly. 312 00:13:27,105 --> 00:13:29,065 Speaker 2: And it's so much like I mean a pictures says 313 00:13:29,105 --> 00:13:31,465 Speaker 2: a thousand words, you know it does. Yes, it's a 314 00:13:31,585 --> 00:13:35,265 Speaker 2: very centralized space because it understands who you are and 315 00:13:35,305 --> 00:13:37,945 Speaker 2: what you like. I had never gotten onto Pinterest and 316 00:13:37,985 --> 00:13:39,665 Speaker 2: looked at a photo and gone, I don't like that. 317 00:13:39,785 --> 00:13:40,465 Speaker 1: No, I mean neither. 318 00:13:40,665 --> 00:13:43,745 Speaker 2: It's actually the opposite, and it's concerning for my bank account. 319 00:13:43,385 --> 00:13:44,065 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. 320 00:13:44,225 --> 00:13:46,305 Speaker 2: What I also do, which is quite a good tip, 321 00:13:46,465 --> 00:13:48,785 Speaker 2: I do have two fashion boards, right, So I have 322 00:13:48,865 --> 00:13:51,785 Speaker 2: a dream fashion board where I put like carry Bradshaw 323 00:13:51,905 --> 00:13:55,105 Speaker 2: running through the street with like mismatched heels, all the 324 00:13:55,145 --> 00:13:58,345 Speaker 2: things that I'm like aspirational, aspirational, and then I have 325 00:13:58,465 --> 00:14:00,385 Speaker 2: the real life stuff where I'm like, Okay, I could 326 00:14:00,385 --> 00:14:01,625 Speaker 2: see myself wearing that tomorrow. 327 00:14:01,865 --> 00:14:03,585 Speaker 1: I have versions of those clothes exactly. 328 00:14:03,705 --> 00:14:05,825 Speaker 2: And that makes sure that it keeps both of these 329 00:14:05,905 --> 00:14:08,945 Speaker 2: kind of categories separated. So you're not going into Pinterest, 330 00:14:08,985 --> 00:14:10,945 Speaker 2: so I will go and then I'll go into my 331 00:14:11,065 --> 00:14:12,305 Speaker 2: actual real lifeboard. 332 00:14:12,785 --> 00:14:14,745 Speaker 1: But when you open your whole Pinterest, it gives you 333 00:14:14,785 --> 00:14:16,545 Speaker 1: a bit of both. Yes, so it's kind of helping 334 00:14:16,585 --> 00:14:19,385 Speaker 1: you meld the aspiration or you and the real you together. 335 00:14:19,585 --> 00:14:22,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, and those two crossover sometimes. Recently, one of my 336 00:14:22,545 --> 00:14:25,265 Speaker 2: friends got engaged, so suddenly I'm thinking, okay, I do 337 00:14:25,345 --> 00:14:27,865 Speaker 2: actually need to buy quite a nice dress. Yes, and 338 00:14:27,905 --> 00:14:30,585 Speaker 2: that's meshing over to my real lifeboard now. 339 00:14:30,665 --> 00:14:30,905 Speaker 1: Yes. 340 00:14:31,185 --> 00:14:33,625 Speaker 2: And then Pinterest does this thing where it will go 341 00:14:33,665 --> 00:14:36,225 Speaker 2: into your boards and you can click more ideas. 342 00:14:36,345 --> 00:14:38,745 Speaker 1: Yes, I just did that today research it was so 343 00:14:38,865 --> 00:14:39,625 Speaker 1: good and everything. 344 00:14:39,665 --> 00:14:42,145 Speaker 2: I was like, yes, more of that, Yes, great, exactly. 345 00:14:42,225 --> 00:14:44,865 Speaker 2: So this makes sure separating both of them that if 346 00:14:44,865 --> 00:14:47,625 Speaker 2: you're looking for your real clothes, it will give you 347 00:14:47,665 --> 00:14:50,665 Speaker 2: real life options. And that is probably my top tip. 348 00:14:50,905 --> 00:14:53,865 Speaker 1: That's so clever, it's so good. Now live. When I'm 349 00:14:53,905 --> 00:14:57,625 Speaker 1: scrolling Pinterest, usually I've searched something, say it was beige 350 00:14:57,705 --> 00:14:59,505 Speaker 1: cross body bag because that's what I did yesterday for 351 00:14:59,545 --> 00:15:01,665 Speaker 1: research and thanks to you, I bought it. So then 352 00:15:01,705 --> 00:15:04,465 Speaker 1: I'm seeing pictures of cool girls on the street whatever. 353 00:15:04,705 --> 00:15:05,785 Speaker 1: Who is uploading those? 354 00:15:06,105 --> 00:15:08,985 Speaker 2: So, like I said, a lot of people connect to 355 00:15:08,985 --> 00:15:11,745 Speaker 2: their Instagram out to Pinterest. So then as soon as 356 00:15:11,745 --> 00:15:13,865 Speaker 2: you post, their posts gone. 357 00:15:14,065 --> 00:15:16,825 Speaker 1: And then people repin. So that's how it gets really popular. 358 00:15:17,465 --> 00:15:22,105 Speaker 1: Then there's ads, so brands obviously advertise on Pinterest. And 359 00:15:22,265 --> 00:15:25,705 Speaker 1: because I've searched beige crossbody, she might like our bag. 360 00:15:26,025 --> 00:15:28,105 Speaker 1: So I've seen the street style, I've seen the runway whatever, 361 00:15:28,105 --> 00:15:29,665 Speaker 1: and then I've seen advertisers. 362 00:15:29,865 --> 00:15:33,545 Speaker 2: Yes, so all meshes into each other as well as. 363 00:15:33,425 --> 00:15:35,865 Speaker 1: Sometimes tricks me because I'm like, I like that street style, pick, 364 00:15:35,905 --> 00:15:37,785 Speaker 1: I'll pin it and it takes me to their website. Yeah, 365 00:15:37,785 --> 00:15:38,625 Speaker 1: but I'm not mad about it. 366 00:15:38,585 --> 00:15:40,105 Speaker 2: Don't know, not at all. I mean it's how I 367 00:15:40,185 --> 00:15:42,585 Speaker 2: find a lot of the girls that I like following 368 00:15:42,585 --> 00:15:44,785 Speaker 2: on Instagram because then I can just go straight to 369 00:15:44,785 --> 00:15:46,305 Speaker 2: the source. You can click on the photo and then 370 00:15:46,345 --> 00:15:48,545 Speaker 2: you go source and I'll take you to the Instagram pace. 371 00:15:48,545 --> 00:15:50,785 Speaker 1: It's nice, but it's not a meta tool, is it? 372 00:15:50,945 --> 00:15:51,185 Speaker 2: No? 373 00:15:51,345 --> 00:15:53,705 Speaker 1: But pin is just nice at sharing and letting you 374 00:15:53,745 --> 00:15:55,745 Speaker 1: go cross platform or as Meta doesn't want. 375 00:15:55,625 --> 00:15:58,225 Speaker 2: You to lead. Oh, they're very kind of interesting. 376 00:15:58,825 --> 00:16:01,185 Speaker 1: I feel like we need to get you on semi 377 00:16:01,265 --> 00:16:04,505 Speaker 1: regularly to teach us how to use social media. But 378 00:16:04,585 --> 00:16:07,345 Speaker 1: what's the general vibe for Pinterest? If there's someone listening 379 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:11,345 Speaker 1: that just thought it was photos of people or whatever, 380 00:16:11,665 --> 00:16:13,425 Speaker 1: what can people find on Pinterest? 381 00:16:13,785 --> 00:16:16,105 Speaker 2: You can find whatever you want. Do you know what? 382 00:16:16,265 --> 00:16:17,985 Speaker 2: All my friends make fun of me for this, but 383 00:16:18,425 --> 00:16:20,745 Speaker 2: I have had a wedding Pinterest board since I was 384 00:16:20,745 --> 00:16:21,305 Speaker 2: like fifteen. 385 00:16:21,345 --> 00:16:23,945 Speaker 1: Well, and you're ready to go all the time. 386 00:16:24,665 --> 00:16:25,265 Speaker 2: It's insane. 387 00:16:25,465 --> 00:16:26,825 Speaker 1: Unpinned something that's no longer you. 388 00:16:26,985 --> 00:16:30,065 Speaker 2: You absolutely can And like the other day I found 389 00:16:30,065 --> 00:16:32,425 Speaker 2: my dream engagement ring and I was like, oh god, 390 00:16:32,505 --> 00:16:35,065 Speaker 2: I wonder how much this is of eighty thousand dollars. 391 00:16:35,145 --> 00:16:36,945 Speaker 1: But that's okay because we pin it and then we 392 00:16:37,065 --> 00:16:39,185 Speaker 1: find the lux te less so we haven't made. 393 00:16:38,905 --> 00:16:43,065 Speaker 2: Exactly and that's what I did. Okay, versions, yet. 394 00:16:43,025 --> 00:16:45,705 Speaker 1: I love it. So anything that you want inspiration for. 395 00:16:45,945 --> 00:16:48,145 Speaker 1: It could be a table setting, it could be an outfit, 396 00:16:48,225 --> 00:16:50,585 Speaker 1: it could be a holiday. Yes, because I think also 397 00:16:50,665 --> 00:16:52,705 Speaker 1: what I like it for, I'll type in Paris street 398 00:16:52,705 --> 00:16:54,425 Speaker 1: Style and it'll show me what people are wearing on 399 00:16:54,425 --> 00:16:57,345 Speaker 1: the streets of Paris and then I'm like, oh, okay, 400 00:16:57,425 --> 00:16:59,385 Speaker 1: so it's that season or this season, or it's that 401 00:16:59,545 --> 00:17:01,425 Speaker 1: cold when I'm going there, or that hot where I'm 402 00:17:01,425 --> 00:17:04,625 Speaker 1: going somewhere, and it's almost like a street skate view 403 00:17:04,785 --> 00:17:07,025 Speaker 1: but cool it is, and like we don't. 404 00:17:07,105 --> 00:17:08,705 Speaker 2: I do it a lot for travel actually, because like 405 00:17:08,745 --> 00:17:10,225 Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie to my A lot of 406 00:17:10,225 --> 00:17:11,585 Speaker 2: the times when I go traveling, I want to get 407 00:17:11,585 --> 00:17:13,785 Speaker 2: the good photo. Like I went to Berlin last year, 408 00:17:13,865 --> 00:17:15,625 Speaker 2: and I'll look up Berlin and then I'll go, Okay, 409 00:17:15,665 --> 00:17:16,385 Speaker 2: we'll have to go there. 410 00:17:16,545 --> 00:17:17,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, that photo. 411 00:17:17,345 --> 00:17:18,985 Speaker 2: It's a good way to do that to live. 412 00:17:19,065 --> 00:17:20,545 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I feel like I need to hire 413 00:17:20,545 --> 00:17:23,145 Speaker 1: you as my personal person for all of this. Now 414 00:17:23,185 --> 00:17:25,665 Speaker 1: we know how Pinterests kind of amalgamate the big trends, 415 00:17:25,665 --> 00:17:28,265 Speaker 1: and it obviously knows me well, so my algorithm is 416 00:17:28,265 --> 00:17:30,345 Speaker 1: different to yours. What if you're trying to find a 417 00:17:30,385 --> 00:17:32,945 Speaker 1: style that isn't super generic. I like fashion, but I'm 418 00:17:32,945 --> 00:17:36,825 Speaker 1: pretty generic. I could be a certain Pinterest board. You're eclectic, 419 00:17:36,945 --> 00:17:41,305 Speaker 1: so how do you find those not everywhere pieces or tips? 420 00:17:41,345 --> 00:17:43,505 Speaker 1: Or tricks or styling hacks or DIY. 421 00:17:43,865 --> 00:17:48,265 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely so. Like I said, Pinterest has literally everything 422 00:17:48,265 --> 00:17:50,105 Speaker 2: you can think of. And one of the things that 423 00:17:50,185 --> 00:17:52,985 Speaker 2: I also like finding on there a little, like art 424 00:17:53,025 --> 00:17:55,945 Speaker 2: projects and DIY projects. One of the big things that 425 00:17:55,985 --> 00:17:57,865 Speaker 2: I've been pinning at the moment is how to beat 426 00:17:57,945 --> 00:18:01,345 Speaker 2: your clothes so you can add little There's this very 427 00:18:01,345 --> 00:18:03,945 Speaker 2: famous Chanelle shirt that has a beaded car on it 428 00:18:04,065 --> 00:18:07,625 Speaker 2: su and people have been diying it. So that's kind 429 00:18:07,625 --> 00:18:08,345 Speaker 2: of stuff. 430 00:18:08,065 --> 00:18:12,145 Speaker 1: And that how to infos on there in little infographics. 431 00:18:11,425 --> 00:18:13,185 Speaker 2: Sort of you can click the photo and then all 432 00:18:13,225 --> 00:18:14,785 Speaker 2: take you to a video of someone doing it on 433 00:18:14,825 --> 00:18:17,265 Speaker 2: TikTok or on Instagram, right, and you can watch that. 434 00:18:17,585 --> 00:18:20,825 Speaker 2: And that's the kind of stuff that I feel just 435 00:18:20,865 --> 00:18:22,945 Speaker 2: adds a little bit with these trends as well. You 436 00:18:22,985 --> 00:18:24,905 Speaker 2: can get sucked into it, but you can make it 437 00:18:24,945 --> 00:18:26,745 Speaker 2: feel like you're own with these little things. 438 00:18:26,785 --> 00:18:29,745 Speaker 1: Little tip so is pictures less about who you follow 439 00:18:29,945 --> 00:18:32,145 Speaker 1: and just things you like to look at. 440 00:18:32,305 --> 00:18:34,745 Speaker 2: Absolutely, the algorithm works so hard. I don't think I 441 00:18:34,745 --> 00:18:35,825 Speaker 2: follow anyone. 442 00:18:35,785 --> 00:18:37,945 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not about who you follow, it's just 443 00:18:38,145 --> 00:18:41,025 Speaker 1: you see something that resonates with you. An image absolutely 444 00:18:41,065 --> 00:18:43,385 Speaker 1: and you pin it somewhere and then it learns your aesthetic, 445 00:18:43,425 --> 00:18:45,785 Speaker 1: whether that's food, fashion, beauty. 446 00:18:45,985 --> 00:18:49,465 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a personal stylist. Seriously, it's actually magic. 447 00:18:49,705 --> 00:18:51,505 Speaker 2: Like I don't know how they do. 448 00:18:51,425 --> 00:18:53,545 Speaker 1: It, me neither, but now I want to go play on. 449 00:18:53,465 --> 00:18:56,665 Speaker 2: Pin It's incredible and like adding little like I'm going 450 00:18:56,705 --> 00:18:58,025 Speaker 2: to Japan in a few months. 451 00:18:58,145 --> 00:19:00,225 Speaker 1: Take me with you. The thrifting, the thrifting. 452 00:19:00,465 --> 00:19:01,185 Speaker 2: So excited? 453 00:19:01,305 --> 00:19:03,465 Speaker 1: Okay, so what have you started pinning for Japan or 454 00:19:03,505 --> 00:19:04,025 Speaker 1: looking at? 455 00:19:04,345 --> 00:19:08,145 Speaker 2: So they are? I mean the thrifting is incredible, right. 456 00:19:08,305 --> 00:19:11,225 Speaker 1: So could you research Japanese thrifting on Pinterest? 457 00:19:11,265 --> 00:19:14,465 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, and then you can find the photos and stuff. 458 00:19:14,505 --> 00:19:16,545 Speaker 2: I actually did a lot of that. They do this 459 00:19:16,665 --> 00:19:18,705 Speaker 2: thing that do you know on a super tigers like that. 460 00:19:18,745 --> 00:19:21,265 Speaker 1: Of course I'm not that uncool. I have two pairs 461 00:19:21,425 --> 00:19:23,865 Speaker 1: for those that don't know. They're very kind of iconic, 462 00:19:24,025 --> 00:19:26,865 Speaker 1: very slimline Japanese trainers. Yeah, everywhere, and. 463 00:19:26,825 --> 00:19:28,905 Speaker 2: You're doing better than me. I don't have any, so 464 00:19:29,505 --> 00:19:31,705 Speaker 2: but that is until I go to Japan and they 465 00:19:31,785 --> 00:19:33,665 Speaker 2: have a store where you can buy them and then 466 00:19:33,705 --> 00:19:35,145 Speaker 2: you can embroider them. 467 00:19:35,625 --> 00:19:37,585 Speaker 1: With initial character picture. 468 00:19:38,505 --> 00:19:41,505 Speaker 2: So they're obviously so trendy. Everyone loves is shoes. 469 00:19:41,225 --> 00:19:43,265 Speaker 1: So you'll have them from a holiday and they'll be 470 00:19:43,305 --> 00:19:44,225 Speaker 1: so unique and. 471 00:19:44,185 --> 00:19:46,425 Speaker 2: You can embroider them. I do a lot of embroidery too, 472 00:19:46,465 --> 00:19:47,465 Speaker 2: just on my normal clothes. 473 00:19:47,505 --> 00:19:49,425 Speaker 1: So if I feel like, yeah, I love it, it's 474 00:19:49,545 --> 00:19:52,265 Speaker 1: so cute and clever, you can make it special. The 475 00:19:52,305 --> 00:19:54,345 Speaker 1: average person at home is it about to go out 476 00:19:54,345 --> 00:19:56,745 Speaker 1: and buy a whole new wardrobe every season. And you 477 00:19:56,785 --> 00:19:58,705 Speaker 1: know Cozie lives, so we want to fall back in 478 00:19:58,745 --> 00:20:01,345 Speaker 1: love with the things we've got, whether or not it's 479 00:20:01,425 --> 00:20:03,545 Speaker 1: learning how to style or how to customize. So how 480 00:20:03,585 --> 00:20:06,145 Speaker 1: can people use Pinterest on their phone and then turn 481 00:20:06,185 --> 00:20:08,825 Speaker 1: around to their wardrobe and fall back in love or 482 00:20:08,865 --> 00:20:10,945 Speaker 1: rediscover all we totally. 483 00:20:11,145 --> 00:20:13,425 Speaker 2: It's kind of like what you said with the khaki jacket. 484 00:20:13,505 --> 00:20:15,785 Speaker 2: I would pick an individual item in my closet. Then 485 00:20:15,785 --> 00:20:17,625 Speaker 2: maybe I haven't worn for a while, but I still 486 00:20:17,665 --> 00:20:19,825 Speaker 2: really like maybe it's a denim jacket, I haven't been 487 00:20:19,825 --> 00:20:22,145 Speaker 2: wearing them lately, and then I would just look it up. 488 00:20:22,225 --> 00:20:24,305 Speaker 2: I'd look it up on Pinterest and i'd scroll through 489 00:20:24,585 --> 00:20:26,345 Speaker 2: and if I find a photo that I like, if 490 00:20:26,385 --> 00:20:28,425 Speaker 2: you click on it, you'll find one hundreds more that 491 00:20:28,465 --> 00:20:30,865 Speaker 2: are like that photo and you can just find inspiration 492 00:20:30,905 --> 00:20:34,425 Speaker 2: in that sense, and like people are insane like how 493 00:20:34,425 --> 00:20:36,185 Speaker 2: they put some things together and the things that they 494 00:20:36,225 --> 00:20:39,465 Speaker 2: think about, and it's incredible, like so cool. Without Pinterest, 495 00:20:39,585 --> 00:20:41,865 Speaker 2: I don't think I could put together heart the outfits. 496 00:20:42,185 --> 00:20:44,745 Speaker 1: It's coming into autumn soon, so I'll just do autumn 497 00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:48,145 Speaker 1: casual or autumn street style. None of them are wearing 498 00:20:48,585 --> 00:20:50,665 Speaker 1: such out there things that I don't have something similar, 499 00:20:50,745 --> 00:20:52,505 Speaker 1: so I'll be like, oh, I actually do like a 500 00:20:52,545 --> 00:20:55,825 Speaker 1: beige or a cream Maxi skirt trends seasonally, but I 501 00:20:55,865 --> 00:20:58,105 Speaker 1: would have never put it with that top. And you 502 00:20:58,225 --> 00:21:01,745 Speaker 1: might just see people going into the season weather they're 503 00:21:01,785 --> 00:21:03,345 Speaker 1: about to go in, and then you just go into 504 00:21:03,345 --> 00:21:04,545 Speaker 1: your order and find something similar. 505 00:21:04,625 --> 00:21:06,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're really lucky in Australia too because a 506 00:21:06,825 --> 00:21:10,225 Speaker 2: lot of American creators will be creating content in season 507 00:21:10,265 --> 00:21:11,185 Speaker 2: as we go into it. 508 00:21:11,225 --> 00:21:14,265 Speaker 1: And EU like Europe too, so they were they're kind 509 00:21:14,305 --> 00:21:16,265 Speaker 1: of six months behind in the best way in that 510 00:21:16,305 --> 00:21:18,945 Speaker 1: we're about to go into the season they've just finished. 511 00:21:19,185 --> 00:21:19,505 Speaker 2: Yeah. 512 00:21:19,545 --> 00:21:21,825 Speaker 1: Good for sales too, online, I know, so you can 513 00:21:21,865 --> 00:21:37,025 Speaker 1: get heats of INSPI that way. It's very expensive. 514 00:21:37,825 --> 00:21:39,985 Speaker 2: How Wonutch you are these. 515 00:21:40,865 --> 00:21:43,385 Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for Bougie and Budget my Friend Live 516 00:21:43,505 --> 00:21:46,385 Speaker 1: and this week we are obviously still on the Pinterest train, 517 00:21:46,465 --> 00:21:49,305 Speaker 1: So things that we've seen on Pinterest, maybe we've bought them, 518 00:21:49,345 --> 00:21:51,945 Speaker 1: maybe we've been inspired by the look. Maybe we're on 519 00:21:51,985 --> 00:21:55,665 Speaker 1: the wait list. So let's start with our bougies. I'll 520 00:21:55,665 --> 00:22:00,025 Speaker 1: go first. You made Me by by Osmosis. Yesterday when 521 00:22:00,025 --> 00:22:02,825 Speaker 1: I was researching a bag. It's an Australian brand called 522 00:22:02,825 --> 00:22:04,585 Speaker 1: The Horse. I think we've talked about it on the 523 00:22:04,585 --> 00:22:07,825 Speaker 1: show a really long time ago. I bought The Horse 524 00:22:07,985 --> 00:22:12,305 Speaker 1: Clementine bag. It is oat pebbled leather. It's two hundred 525 00:22:12,305 --> 00:22:15,385 Speaker 1: and sixty nine dollars. It's my bougie because someone was 526 00:22:15,425 --> 00:22:17,425 Speaker 1: wearing it really cool, and so I went to go 527 00:22:17,465 --> 00:22:18,785 Speaker 1: to that pin and then I ended up on their 528 00:22:18,785 --> 00:22:21,865 Speaker 1: website and I was like, well, it's for research absolutely. 529 00:22:21,905 --> 00:22:24,465 Speaker 1: So it's a little like Stunny. She's really cute. So 530 00:22:24,465 --> 00:22:25,985 Speaker 1: it's a little bag that you can hold as like 531 00:22:26,025 --> 00:22:31,025 Speaker 1: a hand bag. It is vibes, but then it can 532 00:22:31,065 --> 00:22:33,665 Speaker 1: be a cross body so if you're traveling, and then 533 00:22:33,705 --> 00:22:35,745 Speaker 1: it's got a little flat but not an annoying flap. 534 00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:37,585 Speaker 1: You always have to open your flap to get into it. 535 00:22:37,585 --> 00:22:40,465 Speaker 1: It's just stunning, right, thank you. I like that, Oh, 536 00:22:40,545 --> 00:22:42,985 Speaker 1: thank you a lot, because this research costs me two 537 00:22:43,025 --> 00:22:44,345 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy dollars. 538 00:22:44,105 --> 00:22:46,785 Speaker 2: And it's nice to see products like that in the wild. 539 00:22:47,145 --> 00:22:49,465 Speaker 1: We had heard of the horse but never been served 540 00:22:49,465 --> 00:22:51,865 Speaker 1: it on Instagram. I never really discovered it and t 541 00:22:52,505 --> 00:22:54,145 Speaker 1: so it goes to show that there's so much to 542 00:22:54,185 --> 00:22:55,985 Speaker 1: discover there. What's your bougie? 543 00:22:56,065 --> 00:23:00,825 Speaker 2: So my bougie is something I've already bought as well. No, yeah, 544 00:23:00,865 --> 00:23:06,425 Speaker 2: three hundred dollars. No, it is a pair of pink Solomon's. 545 00:23:06,665 --> 00:23:11,105 Speaker 2: Those sneakers. They're like hiking shoes, but they're very cool 546 00:23:11,345 --> 00:23:14,425 Speaker 2: and down. They're bright pink. It's what the kids don't 547 00:23:14,465 --> 00:23:16,785 Speaker 2: have the foot well sort of but you know, like. 548 00:23:16,945 --> 00:23:19,425 Speaker 1: I'm going to google them live, Yeah, give them a google. 549 00:23:20,545 --> 00:23:23,705 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, they're bright pink at least cool. Now 550 00:23:24,025 --> 00:23:26,665 Speaker 1: they're pretty cool. Okay, I just got into them. Bloody 551 00:23:26,985 --> 00:23:28,945 Speaker 1: New Balance. They're kind of chunky New Balance. 552 00:23:28,945 --> 00:23:31,745 Speaker 2: But yeah, they're chunky New Balance, but they're so comfortable. 553 00:23:32,185 --> 00:23:34,505 Speaker 2: They are three hundred dollars, which is a big spend, 554 00:23:34,505 --> 00:23:38,025 Speaker 2: but they last forever, completely waterproof and they just kind. 555 00:23:37,785 --> 00:23:39,945 Speaker 1: Of like go where there's so much water, oh, just 556 00:23:40,065 --> 00:23:43,065 Speaker 1: fishermen pouring all over the play What socks would you 557 00:23:43,105 --> 00:23:44,225 Speaker 1: wear with this pink look? 558 00:23:44,305 --> 00:23:47,625 Speaker 2: Honestly, with those, I probably would keep it to a 559 00:23:47,625 --> 00:23:48,265 Speaker 2: plain sock. 560 00:23:48,465 --> 00:23:51,065 Speaker 1: Okay. My budget is just because I really like the imagery. 561 00:23:51,065 --> 00:23:53,385 Speaker 1: It's an Australian brand called Meshki. We've talked about it 562 00:23:53,385 --> 00:23:56,265 Speaker 1: a lot, but I get served so much on Pinterest 563 00:23:56,345 --> 00:23:58,785 Speaker 1: because I obviously like their aesthetic and I just think 564 00:23:58,865 --> 00:24:01,865 Speaker 1: they do really good images. Because you know, there's some 565 00:24:02,305 --> 00:24:05,745 Speaker 1: retailers that just the model images are so daggy. Then 566 00:24:05,785 --> 00:24:07,545 Speaker 1: you've got your zaras where she's hanging off a cliff 567 00:24:07,585 --> 00:24:09,425 Speaker 1: upside downholding a dry cleaning and you're like, well, I 568 00:24:09,425 --> 00:24:12,105 Speaker 1: can't see that, whereas Meshki just does cool so obviously 569 00:24:12,105 --> 00:24:13,345 Speaker 1: in the studio most of the time, some of it 570 00:24:13,425 --> 00:24:15,185 Speaker 1: sort of street style, and so I get served a 571 00:24:15,185 --> 00:24:16,105 Speaker 1: lot of their stuff. 572 00:24:16,265 --> 00:24:18,785 Speaker 2: Meshki is one of the best brands that I've seen 573 00:24:18,945 --> 00:24:21,665 Speaker 2: using Pinterest. There you go. They always come up when 574 00:24:21,665 --> 00:24:24,065 Speaker 2: I was looking for like wedding guest dresses. 575 00:24:24,265 --> 00:24:27,705 Speaker 1: Well lived, I shout my wedding guest dress for your wedding. 576 00:24:27,905 --> 00:24:29,665 Speaker 1: You have to get married and winter though. Yeah, it's 577 00:24:29,665 --> 00:24:33,505 Speaker 1: the Meshki Presley contrast knit off the shoulder. It's navy 578 00:24:33,545 --> 00:24:35,425 Speaker 1: and cream. I don't know if the skirt's too cream 579 00:24:35,505 --> 00:24:36,665 Speaker 1: for a white, you know, a wedding. 580 00:24:36,985 --> 00:24:39,185 Speaker 2: Anyway, that looks beautiful. You can also dress that up 581 00:24:39,185 --> 00:24:40,305 Speaker 2: and down. That's a very nice. 582 00:24:40,225 --> 00:24:42,265 Speaker 1: Drite and it's one hundred and eighty nine dollars. I 583 00:24:42,345 --> 00:24:44,465 Speaker 1: love Meshki, but I hadn't seen that until I was 584 00:24:44,505 --> 00:24:47,025 Speaker 1: on Pinterest and I just got served so much of 585 00:24:47,025 --> 00:24:47,545 Speaker 1: their stuff. 586 00:24:47,585 --> 00:24:49,065 Speaker 2: It's so good, that's so beautiful. 587 00:24:49,105 --> 00:24:49,865 Speaker 1: What's your budget? 588 00:24:49,945 --> 00:24:52,585 Speaker 2: My budget is a skirt that I've had to sign 589 00:24:52,665 --> 00:24:55,225 Speaker 2: up for an alert from Verge Girl. 590 00:24:55,265 --> 00:24:57,065 Speaker 1: Oh I love Verrge Girl. I get them a lot too, 591 00:24:57,105 --> 00:24:58,865 Speaker 1: but I shop there a lot, so I assumed that 592 00:24:58,865 --> 00:25:00,985 Speaker 1: their cookiees are following me. Yeah, I don't even know 593 00:25:01,025 --> 00:25:02,225 Speaker 1: what a cookie is. Can you come back and talk 594 00:25:02,265 --> 00:25:03,825 Speaker 1: to us about that? I will, Yes, I. 595 00:25:03,825 --> 00:25:06,145 Speaker 2: Can do that, But yeah, I'm the same. They follow 596 00:25:06,185 --> 00:25:07,305 Speaker 2: me too, but I'm not mad about it. 597 00:25:07,425 --> 00:25:09,665 Speaker 1: Me neither follow me a girl. I love your cookie. 598 00:25:09,905 --> 00:25:11,025 Speaker 1: I know what's a skirt like. 599 00:25:11,065 --> 00:25:12,825 Speaker 2: We're going through a trend at the moment where we're 600 00:25:12,825 --> 00:25:14,105 Speaker 2: wearing a lot of sheer skirts. 601 00:25:14,545 --> 00:25:17,145 Speaker 1: We just the ditgeist. Yeah, I mean I am. 602 00:25:17,065 --> 00:25:19,185 Speaker 2: The world, Okay, maybe just in my bubble. 603 00:25:19,305 --> 00:25:21,225 Speaker 1: Well I wasn't sure because you're so much younger than me, 604 00:25:21,265 --> 00:25:22,825 Speaker 1: if you meant like the cool people. 605 00:25:22,945 --> 00:25:27,505 Speaker 2: But I do, yes, And this skirt is very sheer. 606 00:25:27,825 --> 00:25:29,985 Speaker 1: I'll describe it because I have seen it too. 607 00:25:30,385 --> 00:25:33,305 Speaker 2: Yes, it is the most stunning. It's quite glitzy. It's 608 00:25:33,345 --> 00:25:34,825 Speaker 2: got a lot of sequence, very. 609 00:25:34,745 --> 00:25:37,545 Speaker 1: Sheer and very shit. It's nothing like the Fisherman trend, 610 00:25:37,585 --> 00:25:38,865 Speaker 1: except it does look que nicky. 611 00:25:39,065 --> 00:25:41,905 Speaker 2: Yes, it's probably giving a bit more castle core in 612 00:25:41,985 --> 00:25:44,385 Speaker 2: the sense that it's whimsy cool and stuff like that. 613 00:25:44,545 --> 00:25:45,665 Speaker 1: I'm signing up for it too. 614 00:25:45,705 --> 00:25:47,705 Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, it is so sheit. I would wear a 615 00:25:47,705 --> 00:25:50,545 Speaker 2: little skirt under it, yes, or you can go oversized shirt, 616 00:25:50,585 --> 00:25:51,145 Speaker 2: but I still. 617 00:25:50,945 --> 00:25:54,025 Speaker 1: Have oversized shirt in winter, a big like long gray 618 00:25:54,105 --> 00:25:57,025 Speaker 1: knit with a boot and having it just peek out. 619 00:25:57,465 --> 00:26:00,985 Speaker 1: Oh my godfather. And would you wear your pink salmon 620 00:26:00,985 --> 00:26:01,705 Speaker 1: shoes with this? 621 00:26:01,905 --> 00:26:03,545 Speaker 2: Maybe not my pink salmon shoes. 622 00:26:03,625 --> 00:26:04,385 Speaker 1: Would you wear a sock? 623 00:26:04,465 --> 00:26:04,625 Speaker 2: Though? 624 00:26:04,665 --> 00:26:04,985 Speaker 1: You would? 625 00:26:05,025 --> 00:26:07,865 Speaker 2: I've got these leopard kitten hills very cool. I would 626 00:26:07,905 --> 00:26:08,145 Speaker 2: do that. 627 00:26:08,145 --> 00:26:10,505 Speaker 1: But I love this look and find that on Pinterest, 628 00:26:10,545 --> 00:26:12,425 Speaker 1: but I found it through you, and now I'm getting it. Yes, 629 00:26:13,545 --> 00:26:16,105 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget 630 00:26:16,105 --> 00:26:18,425 Speaker 1: to sign up to our Nothing to Wear newsletter. There's 631 00:26:18,465 --> 00:26:21,305 Speaker 1: a link in the show notes. 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