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Speaker 1: Disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have

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Speaker 1: to do it. You live for fashion. Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that solves fashion problems

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Speaker 1: and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell and every

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Speaker 1: week I talk to an expert who helps us get

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Speaker 1: more out of the clothes we already own and tells

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Speaker 1: us exactly what is and isn't worth adding to your wardrobe.

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Speaker 1: And if you've ever scrolled Deepop and thought where do

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Speaker 1: you don't even know what deepop is, but you keep

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Speaker 1: hearing everyone talk about it, so we've got you covered.

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Speaker 1: Today I'm joined by one of Australia's top deep pop sellers,

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Speaker 1: the queen of Curate ad Vintage and an appsolute expert

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Speaker 1: in turning secondhand gems into serious style. Her name is

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Speaker 1: Kara Otter or Karamelian As she's non online and she

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Speaker 1: doesn't just sell on deepop that's her job. She's made

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Speaker 1: shop in Sydney called so Familia, where she sources some

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Speaker 1: of the most incredible preloved pieces that you might find

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Speaker 1: on her depop. So today we'll get to dive deep

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Speaker 1: into the world of deepop. How to use it, what

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Speaker 1: of your questions answered. Kara. Firstly, let's start with some

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Speaker 1: general questions before we get into all things Deepop. Can

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Speaker 1: you describe your style in three words?

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Speaker 2: My personal style. This is kind of tricky because I

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Speaker 2: don't think I'm super extra, but I do love colorful things,

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Speaker 2: on the day. But yeah, majority vintage, and i'd definitely

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Speaker 1: Which is pretty much me though. I'm trying to experiment.

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Speaker 1: And they say that you wear ten percent of your

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Speaker 2: My wardrobe is really high rotation, so I have a

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Speaker 1: So what is Deepop? How does it work? Tell us

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Speaker 2: So Deepop is basically an app that's a super simple,

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Speaker 2: But it's very specifically in Australia clothing accessories, shoes and

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Speaker 1: That is a really good way to put it. And

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Speaker 2: So it's vintage dead stock, which is a lot of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's curated. It's kind of like the version of

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Speaker 1: shop because you know that's your style and your aesthetic

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Speaker 1: and your whole vibe exactly. Talk to me about listing stuff,

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Speaker 1: So how important are photos, descriptions and pricing? You have

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Speaker 2: Wear, I'd say just make sure that you've got good

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Speaker 2: For us, we definitely do body because I think it's

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Speaker 2: I guess the best way to think of deepop is

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Speaker 1: So if you know the style name, include as much

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Speaker 2: I would say depends how quickly you want to sell it,

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Speaker 2: You can definitely offer deep Hoop kind of gives you

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Speaker 2: So sure, I guess just depends how bad you want it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like an auction in a way.

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Speaker 1: What about specific ways to list, Like is there keywords?

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Speaker 2: of sunglasses, it will show you similar sunglasses. Also, I

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd rather sell it in the store. Touch

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Speaker 2: I said, have fun sell these on eBay. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: So I have a budget item that I bought off

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Speaker 2: There's something so satisfying about getting something that you've been

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so good at this.

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Speaker 2: And that's why secondhand clothes are so addictive.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about your bodget either something you've bought or

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Speaker 2: So one of my favorite things that I bought was

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Speaker 1: Olsome Twins brand. It's very expensive, like outrageously expensive. And

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Speaker 1: I also want a cream or white loafer for winter.

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Speaker 1: I found a white loafer by the Row on Deep Hop.

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Speaker 1: That's three hundred New Zealand dollars. I don't really know exchange,

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Speaker 1: but much of a much has three hundred dollars. They've

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Speaker 1: said they bought them off the real reel. Hmm, that's

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Speaker 1: third hand, but they look hardly worn. Well, what doesn't matter, greed.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure they're not counterfeit. But

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Speaker 1: like we discussed before, I think three hundred dollars, let's

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Speaker 1: just pretend New Zealand astraining the same. It's not that

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Speaker 1: different for the Row. Why loafers all leather? I reckon

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Speaker 1: that's a good deal. And like you said, I've searched

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Speaker 1: on Deep Hop for over the Row and there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot on there. I go on Best Year Collective.

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Speaker 1: There's so much row, so maybe not enough people are

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Speaker 1: listing stuff on there. And that's why it's a bargain.

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Speaker 2: What are they usually sell for? Because when I see

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Speaker 2: the row of the boots like two grands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my point, Like their shoes are in the thousands.

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Speaker 2: Don't even think about it. Get them because if they sell, yes,

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Speaker 2: you're going to regret it forever and you're not going

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Speaker 2: to be able to find them for that price again.

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Speaker 2: And leather shoes the biggest investment.

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Speaker 1: Right and my size. It's like dresses. Then things can

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Speaker 1: be altered if you need or worn over size, but

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Speaker 1: shoes they got to be the right size.

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Speaker 2: And if they're good quality shoes, you're getting a steal

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Speaker 2: because you'll just live in them. And I'd say that

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Speaker 2: is so much more sustainable than going on an iconic

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Speaker 2: orwn aesoce and buying a pleathor shoe that's going to

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Speaker 2: last you two months.

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Speaker 1: I love you so much for approving this one question.

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Speaker 1: If I'm buying from New Zealand, anything, I need to

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Speaker 1: know I've never bought overseas. I just buy it and

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Speaker 1: they send you buy it.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm like so confident in the.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, you're the best. I'm buying it.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna wear them, get them, I'm getting it at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day. If you don't wear them

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Speaker 2: the resel, they've sat there for two months, put them

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Speaker 2: back on deepop. Well, put them up on eBay and

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Speaker 2: you can add an extra hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: You are genius. Okay before I buy those, can you

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Speaker 1: tell me about your bougie. It doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: as fancy as the row, because I know your vibe

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Speaker 1: is all sort of more vintage. What have you got

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Speaker 1: for me?

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Speaker 2: This will also show you my age. But I have

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Speaker 2: still not let go of this high school obsession with

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Speaker 2: Wills and Doll Baby.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, the hold that brand had on me.

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Speaker 2: Well, Wills and Doll Baby has always had a special

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Speaker 2: place in my heart and it's something that you can't

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Speaker 2: buy anymore. So I'm always looking for Wills and Doll Baby.

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Speaker 2: I just love collecting it.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's all Australian made and unique, and so whenever I

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Speaker 2: find a little Wills and Doll baby bargain online.

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Speaker 1: I just have to get it, Okay, I love it. Well.

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Speaker 1: If I find anyone my searches, I'll send links your way.

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Speaker 2: Have any in your suitcases that you've you message me

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Speaker 2: before you listen.

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Speaker 1: When I find a weekend, I will message you. Kara,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing all your inside tips.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we'll POPLINX in the show notes to all of

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Speaker 1: your handles so people go shop your delicious curations. But

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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear, and don't

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio production by

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