1 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,104 Speaker 2: Mamma and Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and 3 00:00:18,224 --> 00:00:25,944 Speaker 2: borders that this podcast is recorded on from Mom and Mia. 4 00:00:26,144 --> 00:00:29,184 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm 5 00:00:29,224 --> 00:00:31,224 Speaker 3: em Burnon and I'm Laura Brodneck. 6 00:00:31,464 --> 00:00:32,464 Speaker 4: And on the show. 7 00:00:32,264 --> 00:00:36,384 Speaker 3: Today, we are talking about some pregnancy rumors surrounding two 8 00:00:36,584 --> 00:00:40,784 Speaker 3: high profile celebrity women. We are also diving in a 9 00:00:40,864 --> 00:00:44,024 Speaker 3: new reality TV show where I guess both the protagonists 10 00:00:44,024 --> 00:00:46,424 Speaker 3: of the reality TV show are under some heat. 11 00:00:46,624 --> 00:00:50,224 Speaker 1: But first, but first, this morning, I woke up, I 12 00:00:50,264 --> 00:00:52,544 Speaker 1: reached onto my bedside table and grabbed my phone where 13 00:00:52,584 --> 00:00:55,184 Speaker 1: it lives. I love this narrative, and I opened it 14 00:00:55,264 --> 00:00:58,904 Speaker 1: up to a very very important email from Netflix, which 15 00:00:58,984 --> 00:01:02,264 Speaker 1: was the new first look images for the upcoming new 16 00:01:02,344 --> 00:01:04,584 Speaker 1: season of Emily in Paris. 17 00:01:04,904 --> 00:01:06,984 Speaker 4: Okay you made this way. I was like, oh my god, 18 00:01:07,024 --> 00:01:08,304 Speaker 4: she's going to be on a Netflix show. 19 00:01:09,064 --> 00:01:11,264 Speaker 1: It wasn't offer to be, no, no, it's just the 20 00:01:11,264 --> 00:01:14,704 Speaker 1: first Emily in Paris. Yeah. Because I'm also a basic bitch. 21 00:01:14,784 --> 00:01:16,624 Speaker 1: That's what people who say they don't like Emily in Paris. 22 00:01:16,624 --> 00:01:18,744 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's because you see too much of yourself 23 00:01:18,784 --> 00:01:22,224 Speaker 1: in this slightly embarrassing white woman just jotting around the 24 00:01:22,224 --> 00:01:23,424 Speaker 1: city in pretty clothes. 25 00:01:23,464 --> 00:01:24,424 Speaker 2: I mean, she has my name. 26 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:25,504 Speaker 4: What do you expect from me? 27 00:01:25,704 --> 00:01:26,864 Speaker 2: Exactly? It's a good name. 28 00:01:26,944 --> 00:01:30,224 Speaker 3: I quite like Emily in Paris. Oh yeah, I don't 29 00:01:30,224 --> 00:01:31,824 Speaker 3: want to say guilty pleasure. I think we say guilty 30 00:01:31,824 --> 00:01:32,384 Speaker 3: pleasure too much. 31 00:01:32,424 --> 00:01:33,944 Speaker 2: I know that's my kind of pleasure. 32 00:01:34,064 --> 00:01:35,784 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a bit weird. I like it. 33 00:01:36,504 --> 00:01:38,424 Speaker 2: I don't like it in an ironic way. I just 34 00:01:38,544 --> 00:01:39,664 Speaker 2: like it as a show. Everyone. 35 00:01:39,704 --> 00:01:42,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, as you're saying, loves to hate watch thinks it's dumb, 36 00:01:42,464 --> 00:01:44,424 Speaker 1: and I just think there's so many shows out there 37 00:01:44,464 --> 00:01:46,904 Speaker 1: that are so intense, and this is a show about 38 00:01:47,104 --> 00:01:50,544 Speaker 1: a slightly clueless woman in some beautiful clothes in the 39 00:01:50,624 --> 00:01:52,064 Speaker 1: most beautiful city in the world. 40 00:01:52,264 --> 00:01:53,064 Speaker 2: What's not to like? 41 00:01:53,304 --> 00:01:55,864 Speaker 4: Just let women like things please exactly. 42 00:01:55,944 --> 00:01:57,104 Speaker 2: So I'm a big defender of that. 43 00:01:57,144 --> 00:01:59,104 Speaker 1: I actually wrote an article like once and we titled 44 00:01:59,144 --> 00:02:01,224 Speaker 1: it this will probably lose me in my career because 45 00:02:01,264 --> 00:02:03,024 Speaker 1: I was defending Emily in Paris, and I don't think 46 00:02:03,024 --> 00:02:05,264 Speaker 1: most film and TV critics do that. I mean, you're 47 00:02:05,264 --> 00:02:07,944 Speaker 1: still here, so I'm still here because I think that 48 00:02:08,024 --> 00:02:10,544 Speaker 1: kind of messaging is okay this particular workplace, no where 49 00:02:10,544 --> 00:02:14,264 Speaker 1: else anyway. So Emily in Paris season four is going 50 00:02:14,304 --> 00:02:17,024 Speaker 1: to be split into two parts, very bridges, and like, 51 00:02:17,064 --> 00:02:18,664 Speaker 1: so I get two hits of publicity. 52 00:02:18,704 --> 00:02:20,984 Speaker 4: I'm till over there, So oh yeah, I don't know. 53 00:02:21,064 --> 00:02:23,544 Speaker 1: Well. Also I'm angry at Emily in Paris because it 54 00:02:23,624 --> 00:02:26,504 Speaker 1: always has previously come out around Christmas, and so my 55 00:02:26,584 --> 00:02:29,144 Speaker 1: sister Lucy and I had a tradition of watching it 56 00:02:29,184 --> 00:02:32,544 Speaker 1: together on Christmas night once all the family festivities had 57 00:02:32,584 --> 00:02:34,544 Speaker 1: died down, and we didn't have it this year, and 58 00:02:34,584 --> 00:02:36,424 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I guess we're just not doing Christmas. 59 00:02:36,464 --> 00:02:39,824 Speaker 1: And August fifteenth, part one of the new season's coming out, 60 00:02:40,384 --> 00:02:42,864 Speaker 1: and I'm like, do I fly to Queensland to watch 61 00:02:42,904 --> 00:02:44,504 Speaker 1: it with her? That has been a discussion. 62 00:02:44,584 --> 00:02:47,624 Speaker 4: I think you should make fun of you, produce a tail. 63 00:02:47,624 --> 00:02:49,504 Speaker 1: I'm going to need that day off the spell. She's nodding, 64 00:02:49,624 --> 00:02:51,664 Speaker 1: So that's locked in anyway, Just quickly before we get 65 00:02:51,664 --> 00:02:54,504 Speaker 1: carried On, Carried Away, which the whole point of the show. 66 00:02:54,704 --> 00:02:57,104 Speaker 1: The new images have come out and it's all about 67 00:02:57,104 --> 00:02:59,624 Speaker 1: Emily's very over the top close. There's a lot of 68 00:02:59,704 --> 00:03:02,544 Speaker 1: hats which I'm into. It looks very winter to me, 69 00:03:02,704 --> 00:03:04,464 Speaker 1: kind of yes, well some of this. I think they 70 00:03:04,504 --> 00:03:06,104 Speaker 1: are in Italy for some of this as well. So 71 00:03:06,264 --> 00:03:08,384 Speaker 1: a lot of very big fur coats. 72 00:03:08,504 --> 00:03:09,864 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's real fur. 73 00:03:10,584 --> 00:03:13,344 Speaker 1: I would say probably not, but I guess we'll find it. 74 00:03:13,984 --> 00:03:16,384 Speaker 1: A lot of those like Page Boys style caps, which 75 00:03:16,384 --> 00:03:17,864 Speaker 1: a more as a teenager and I thought were cool. 76 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:20,344 Speaker 1: So I'm excited they're coming back. A lot of bright 77 00:03:20,424 --> 00:03:24,144 Speaker 1: colored fur. Yeah, it looks very yeah like you reminded 78 00:03:24,184 --> 00:03:24,584 Speaker 1: me of. 79 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:28,104 Speaker 3: That Gucci series that Lady kaka Whole the House of Gucci, 80 00:03:28,144 --> 00:03:28,824 Speaker 3: House of Gucci. 81 00:03:29,024 --> 00:03:33,744 Speaker 1: Well, one of the costume designers, Marilyn FITTORESI probably the right. Apologies, Marilyn. 82 00:03:34,024 --> 00:03:35,984 Speaker 1: There's an interview with her that came in this email 83 00:03:36,024 --> 00:03:38,344 Speaker 1: with the pictures, and she said, Emily is really coming 84 00:03:38,424 --> 00:03:41,664 Speaker 1: to her own asserting herself, becoming much stronger. Oh my god, 85 00:03:41,664 --> 00:03:43,624 Speaker 1: everyone in her French office is going to hate that. 86 00:03:43,704 --> 00:03:46,064 Speaker 1: It also feels like you're reading my horoscope right now. 87 00:03:46,624 --> 00:03:48,424 Speaker 1: Oh yes, this is going to happen to you and 88 00:03:48,424 --> 00:03:51,584 Speaker 1: Emily Cooper. She's becoming much stronger with a style that 89 00:03:51,664 --> 00:03:54,224 Speaker 1: is reinterpreting Parisian fashion codes. 90 00:03:54,384 --> 00:03:55,824 Speaker 2: Part of them. French people are going to love that. 91 00:03:55,864 --> 00:03:59,304 Speaker 1: They love people taking their style, reinterpreting it, and our 92 00:03:59,344 --> 00:04:02,784 Speaker 1: motto is obviously to have fun, but to take maximum risks. 93 00:04:02,984 --> 00:04:05,024 Speaker 4: Oh my god, she was really trying for that word count. 94 00:04:05,144 --> 00:04:09,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, So every single image that has been sent through 95 00:04:09,584 --> 00:04:12,184 Speaker 1: in this email to our Instagram feed and tell us 96 00:04:12,224 --> 00:04:15,544 Speaker 1: what to outfit you like most and August fifteen, the 97 00:04:15,624 --> 00:04:16,104 Speaker 1: new season. 98 00:04:16,184 --> 00:04:17,304 Speaker 4: I reckon we should recap it. 99 00:04:17,424 --> 00:04:18,464 Speaker 1: I reckon we should too. 100 00:04:18,784 --> 00:04:21,024 Speaker 3: You're hearing it first before we take this to our 101 00:04:21,064 --> 00:04:27,784 Speaker 3: producer to recapping it. Yesterday Lady Gaga posted a TikTok 102 00:04:27,824 --> 00:04:29,944 Speaker 3: that was kind of I want to say, a selfie 103 00:04:30,224 --> 00:04:33,344 Speaker 3: ish video on the screen. There were some texts that 104 00:04:33,504 --> 00:04:37,104 Speaker 3: read not pregnant, just down bad crying at the gym. 105 00:04:37,464 --> 00:04:40,664 Speaker 3: Register to vote at www dot headcount dot org. I 106 00:04:40,704 --> 00:04:44,984 Speaker 3: mean that's important, very important. So what we're assuming Gaga 107 00:04:45,024 --> 00:04:48,184 Speaker 3: is referring to is earlier this week, she was photographed 108 00:04:48,184 --> 00:04:51,104 Speaker 3: at her sister's wedding in Maine, looking beautiful wearing a 109 00:04:51,104 --> 00:04:54,784 Speaker 3: classic little black dress. The photo started circulating the internet 110 00:04:54,904 --> 00:04:57,184 Speaker 3: and there was roomors attached to their photograph saying that 111 00:04:57,264 --> 00:05:01,104 Speaker 3: Lady Gaga was pregnant with her first child, which is 112 00:05:01,184 --> 00:05:03,304 Speaker 3: kind of what happens when every other woman kind of 113 00:05:03,344 --> 00:05:06,424 Speaker 3: exists who has a stomach. I see there's pregnancy roomors everywhere, 114 00:05:06,504 --> 00:05:09,664 Speaker 3: especially that age. Coming back to the TikTok, the part 115 00:05:09,664 --> 00:05:12,384 Speaker 3: of the text that down bad crying at the gym 116 00:05:12,464 --> 00:05:15,144 Speaker 3: is a Taylor Swift lyric from her most recent album, 117 00:05:15,744 --> 00:05:19,304 Speaker 3: and Taylor Swift herself commented on the TikTok saying, can 118 00:05:19,344 --> 00:05:22,664 Speaker 3: we all agree that it's invasive and irresponsible to comment 119 00:05:22,704 --> 00:05:26,144 Speaker 3: on a woman's body? Gaga doesn't owe anyone an explanation, 120 00:05:26,304 --> 00:05:29,904 Speaker 3: and neither does any other woman now. Taylor Swift rarely 121 00:05:29,984 --> 00:05:32,984 Speaker 3: comments publicly on anything, so whenever she does, there's a 122 00:05:33,064 --> 00:05:36,584 Speaker 3: massive strategy behind it. We have Tree Pain working her Gears, 123 00:05:36,584 --> 00:05:40,384 Speaker 3: who's Taylor's publicist. Similar to Gaga, Taylor Swift has also 124 00:05:40,424 --> 00:05:44,064 Speaker 3: been the victim of some pregnancy rumors. She's been performing 125 00:05:44,064 --> 00:05:46,584 Speaker 3: her erastore. She doesn't rest, honestly, She's been performing her 126 00:05:46,624 --> 00:05:49,424 Speaker 3: Ears tour around Europe, and when she performs there are 127 00:05:49,464 --> 00:05:52,304 Speaker 3: obviously more clips from people's different point of views of 128 00:05:52,344 --> 00:05:55,944 Speaker 3: the concert circulating socials, especially tiktoks. A lot of the 129 00:05:55,944 --> 00:05:57,984 Speaker 3: comments now which were different to when she was doing 130 00:05:57,984 --> 00:06:00,224 Speaker 3: her ears too. I guess here in Australia is that 131 00:06:00,344 --> 00:06:02,704 Speaker 3: so many comments are saying, oh my god, she looks 132 00:06:02,704 --> 00:06:06,464 Speaker 3: so healthy, she looks so beautiful, and now publications are 133 00:06:06,504 --> 00:06:10,344 Speaker 3: running with that with people thinking she's pregnant, Laura Ronnie, 134 00:06:10,824 --> 00:06:13,744 Speaker 3: is it ever okay to talk about a female celebrity 135 00:06:13,824 --> 00:06:14,944 Speaker 3: body in this way? 136 00:06:15,584 --> 00:06:15,784 Speaker 2: No? 137 00:06:15,824 --> 00:06:17,384 Speaker 1: Not in this way, because I think there are some 138 00:06:17,424 --> 00:06:19,824 Speaker 1: people out there who say we shouldn't talk about bodies 139 00:06:19,904 --> 00:06:22,184 Speaker 1: or weight at all, Like it's the biggest ruling thing 140 00:06:22,304 --> 00:06:24,504 Speaker 1: in like pop culture and like in so many people's 141 00:06:24,504 --> 00:06:26,744 Speaker 1: lives what your body looks like. So in order to 142 00:06:26,744 --> 00:06:29,064 Speaker 1: sort of break down those barriers, you have to have 143 00:06:29,104 --> 00:06:32,184 Speaker 1: a conversation about it. This is different because it's not 144 00:06:32,264 --> 00:06:35,144 Speaker 1: about having a talk about body equality in the industry. 145 00:06:35,224 --> 00:06:38,904 Speaker 1: It's singling out these particular women and trying to wrap 146 00:06:39,064 --> 00:06:42,464 Speaker 1: up criticism of their bodies in a way that's just like. 147 00:06:42,624 --> 00:06:45,024 Speaker 1: Look with Taylor Swift, there's all these photos side by 148 00:06:45,064 --> 00:06:46,984 Speaker 1: side because on her breaks from the errors to her, 149 00:06:47,024 --> 00:06:49,144 Speaker 1: she went on some beach holiday with Travis Kelcey and 150 00:06:49,144 --> 00:06:51,864 Speaker 1: there's all these pat pictures of them in the ocean. 151 00:06:51,904 --> 00:06:54,624 Speaker 1: She's wearing a bikini and those photos were put side 152 00:06:54,624 --> 00:06:57,384 Speaker 1: by side exactly what happened to Selena Goromez a few 153 00:06:57,424 --> 00:06:59,744 Speaker 1: years ago, side by side of bikini photos of her 154 00:06:59,784 --> 00:07:03,144 Speaker 1: from five years ago, and some people were just outrightly 155 00:07:03,344 --> 00:07:05,464 Speaker 1: sat shaming Taylor Swift and saying she's put on way 156 00:07:05,504 --> 00:07:08,304 Speaker 1: she looks terrible, which is just a mind boggling situation 157 00:07:08,384 --> 00:07:11,064 Speaker 1: I can't even get into. Because she's a thin, blonde, white, 158 00:07:11,104 --> 00:07:13,264 Speaker 1: able body woman, like if she's the ideal of what 159 00:07:13,264 --> 00:07:14,984 Speaker 1: we're told to look like. And even they're saying that 160 00:07:15,024 --> 00:07:17,464 Speaker 1: she's fat, but most people are wrapping it up in 161 00:07:17,504 --> 00:07:21,024 Speaker 1: either she's pregnant or saying like it's so refreshing to 162 00:07:21,064 --> 00:07:23,424 Speaker 1: see her body be more normal because she's so in love, 163 00:07:23,504 --> 00:07:25,584 Speaker 1: basically saying she's in a love bubble with Travis Kelsey 164 00:07:25,624 --> 00:07:27,664 Speaker 1: and she's let herself go like relationship way. 165 00:07:27,784 --> 00:07:28,624 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 166 00:07:28,904 --> 00:07:31,784 Speaker 1: And it's interesting with Lady Gaga because she has been 167 00:07:31,824 --> 00:07:34,904 Speaker 1: so open about having all these terrible health struggles. She's 168 00:07:34,944 --> 00:07:37,144 Speaker 1: a whole documentary about it. She has a lot of 169 00:07:37,144 --> 00:07:39,344 Speaker 1: different like autoimmune diseases, and she's had a lot of 170 00:07:39,344 --> 00:07:42,024 Speaker 1: different health problems, and she's been open about talking about 171 00:07:42,064 --> 00:07:43,864 Speaker 1: how that's affected her body. And some days she can 172 00:07:43,904 --> 00:07:46,944 Speaker 1: barely stand. And yeah, she did perform live multiple times 173 00:07:46,944 --> 00:07:48,704 Speaker 1: of the COVID recently, but this is separate to that 174 00:07:48,744 --> 00:07:52,064 Speaker 1: with her health issues and so that could be having 175 00:07:52,144 --> 00:07:54,464 Speaker 1: sort of a fluctuation in her body weight. But instead 176 00:07:54,504 --> 00:07:56,624 Speaker 1: of anyone looking at her and being like, oh, this 177 00:07:56,664 --> 00:07:59,784 Speaker 1: woman like performs these live shows and she can barely stand, 178 00:07:59,864 --> 00:08:02,664 Speaker 1: it's this conversation about how terrible her body looks because 179 00:08:03,064 --> 00:08:05,064 Speaker 1: it appears to these people that it's gotten bigger. 180 00:08:05,264 --> 00:08:09,344 Speaker 3: I think it's also telling on the expectation society have 181 00:08:09,704 --> 00:08:12,264 Speaker 3: on women of this age. And we talked about it 182 00:08:12,304 --> 00:08:15,624 Speaker 3: briefly with Nicola Cocklan, but these women like Taylor Swift, 183 00:08:15,704 --> 00:08:18,464 Speaker 3: Lady Gaga in the mid to late thirties, it's kind 184 00:08:18,464 --> 00:08:21,904 Speaker 3: of like us going, oh, surely they're pregnant because they're 185 00:08:21,904 --> 00:08:22,784 Speaker 3: supposed to be at this. 186 00:08:22,944 --> 00:08:25,744 Speaker 1: Because what else she There's also this idea that it's 187 00:08:25,784 --> 00:08:28,184 Speaker 1: only okay to have your body change if you have 188 00:08:28,224 --> 00:08:30,624 Speaker 1: a child. Like there's all these things about like, you know, 189 00:08:30,744 --> 00:08:33,024 Speaker 1: having like your body change and being okay with it 190 00:08:33,024 --> 00:08:34,624 Speaker 1: because you brought life into the world, and it's like 191 00:08:34,664 --> 00:08:36,664 Speaker 1: your body can also change and you could not bring 192 00:08:36,704 --> 00:08:39,224 Speaker 1: life into the world. That's okay as well. But do 193 00:08:39,264 --> 00:08:42,144 Speaker 1: you think this is Taylor's way of commenting on this 194 00:08:42,184 --> 00:08:44,984 Speaker 1: without having to sort of address it herself one hundred percent. 195 00:08:45,184 --> 00:08:47,744 Speaker 3: I think just because she barely comments on anything at 196 00:08:47,824 --> 00:08:51,024 Speaker 3: all unless there's like deep thought going into it, and 197 00:08:51,144 --> 00:08:54,544 Speaker 3: her telling the people who are commenting on Lady Gaga's 198 00:08:54,584 --> 00:08:56,784 Speaker 3: body like we shouldn't be doing this. I think it's 199 00:08:56,824 --> 00:08:58,864 Speaker 3: a way of her saying, also, just stop talking about 200 00:08:58,864 --> 00:08:59,464 Speaker 3: my body. 201 00:08:59,424 --> 00:09:01,904 Speaker 1: Get out of here, because it'd be such a bigger 202 00:09:01,944 --> 00:09:04,664 Speaker 1: story to headline. If Taylor Swift, which we've always said before, 203 00:09:04,704 --> 00:09:06,864 Speaker 1: she's a very online celebrity, like she's so aware, she 204 00:09:06,944 --> 00:09:11,464 Speaker 1: sees everything, she sees everything, She's across everything, tree across everything, 205 00:09:11,624 --> 00:09:13,704 Speaker 1: like you'll get an email from that woman's speaking from experience. 206 00:09:15,744 --> 00:09:17,664 Speaker 1: Probably shuldn't even say that out loud again in Trouble, 207 00:09:17,904 --> 00:09:20,344 Speaker 1: they're across every little thing. But if Taylor puts up 208 00:09:20,344 --> 00:09:22,384 Speaker 1: a big statement about it, all of a sudden, that 209 00:09:22,384 --> 00:09:25,184 Speaker 1: becomes a huge story because she's addressed it. But her 210 00:09:25,224 --> 00:09:27,184 Speaker 1: coming in to defend Lady Gaga. 211 00:09:26,784 --> 00:09:28,704 Speaker 4: On like a TikTok comment, which I thought was very. 212 00:09:28,624 --> 00:09:30,864 Speaker 1: Interesting, which is also she knows is going to pick 213 00:09:30,944 --> 00:09:32,984 Speaker 1: up headlines, but it's not as blatant as her doing 214 00:09:32,984 --> 00:09:34,784 Speaker 1: a statement. I don't want to sort of say like 215 00:09:34,784 --> 00:09:36,944 Speaker 1: one body conversation is more important than the other. But 216 00:09:36,984 --> 00:09:39,984 Speaker 1: I also think that this is a conversation that people 217 00:09:40,024 --> 00:09:42,504 Speaker 1: feel really like, almost okay to jump into because it 218 00:09:42,544 --> 00:09:44,144 Speaker 1: seems very cut and dry. It's like, you have these 219 00:09:44,184 --> 00:09:47,304 Speaker 1: two thin women, they're being body shamed. That's not good. 220 00:09:47,704 --> 00:09:50,464 Speaker 1: But then there's all these other body issues and conversations 221 00:09:50,464 --> 00:09:52,704 Speaker 1: that happen around that, but they can sometimes be a 222 00:09:52,704 --> 00:09:54,544 Speaker 1: bit messier to wait into, Whereas I feel like a 223 00:09:54,544 --> 00:09:56,424 Speaker 1: lot of people feel okay to jump into this because 224 00:09:56,464 --> 00:09:57,624 Speaker 1: it feels very cut and dried. 225 00:09:57,984 --> 00:10:01,344 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think also because these women historically have 226 00:10:01,464 --> 00:10:05,024 Speaker 3: been so thin that I think it's so interesting to 227 00:10:05,064 --> 00:10:07,704 Speaker 3: see that the rumors about them putting on weight is 228 00:10:07,744 --> 00:10:10,304 Speaker 3: related to pregnancy versus them just putting on weight. 229 00:10:10,624 --> 00:10:13,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So anyway, it's a messed up conversation. 230 00:10:13,904 --> 00:10:15,464 Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna, you know, finish off by saying 231 00:10:15,464 --> 00:10:17,544 Speaker 1: that I'm sure that Lady Gaga took some comfort in 232 00:10:17,584 --> 00:10:20,184 Speaker 1: seeing that very supportive comment from Taylor Swift on her TikTok. 233 00:10:20,264 --> 00:10:20,504 Speaker 4: I hope. 234 00:10:20,584 --> 00:10:25,184 Speaker 1: So, so this is a TV show that a few 235 00:10:25,224 --> 00:10:27,184 Speaker 1: people have been asking for for a while. 236 00:10:27,624 --> 00:10:29,104 Speaker 2: Really, yes, no, no, no. 237 00:10:29,344 --> 00:10:31,904 Speaker 1: When the whole story about this family came out, there 238 00:10:31,944 --> 00:10:33,744 Speaker 1: were comments saying, you guys need to do a reality 239 00:10:33,784 --> 00:10:36,744 Speaker 1: show because that's now how we condition to think anytime 240 00:10:36,784 --> 00:10:39,384 Speaker 1: we come across a family unit that's a little bit different. 241 00:10:39,744 --> 00:10:44,024 Speaker 1: And it's Alec Baldwin and his wife Ilaria Alaldwin, who 242 00:10:44,104 --> 00:10:47,304 Speaker 1: have confirmed they do have their own reality TV show 243 00:10:47,384 --> 00:10:49,064 Speaker 1: coming our way next year. 244 00:10:49,144 --> 00:10:50,544 Speaker 2: It's we called the Baldwins. 245 00:10:50,624 --> 00:10:52,904 Speaker 3: I just want to say, bad name. They have seven kids. 246 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:56,904 Speaker 3: They missed an opportunity of being called the Boldtrap family. 247 00:10:56,944 --> 00:11:02,744 Speaker 1: So long. Well, well she calls them the Baldwin ititos 248 00:11:02,864 --> 00:11:05,344 Speaker 1: because of Spanish, which we'll get into. So they have 249 00:11:05,704 --> 00:11:07,944 Speaker 1: seven children under the age of ten. 250 00:11:08,344 --> 00:11:11,544 Speaker 4: That's like, that is insane to me. 251 00:11:12,064 --> 00:11:12,304 Speaker 1: Yeah. 252 00:11:12,464 --> 00:11:14,504 Speaker 2: Also, I think she's only a few years older than me. 253 00:11:14,624 --> 00:11:17,104 Speaker 1: She's only like late thirties or maybe she's gone into 254 00:11:17,304 --> 00:11:18,264 Speaker 1: early forties now. 255 00:11:18,304 --> 00:11:20,784 Speaker 4: And just I mean, imagine if you had seven kids. 256 00:11:20,944 --> 00:11:22,784 Speaker 1: I can't well, they would have to be okay, living 257 00:11:22,824 --> 00:11:24,944 Speaker 1: in my one bedroom apartment because Sydney rental post is 258 00:11:24,944 --> 00:11:28,224 Speaker 1: not great. So this is going to track their family 259 00:11:28,304 --> 00:11:30,704 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and they announced it with a very 260 00:11:30,784 --> 00:11:32,944 Speaker 1: cute little teaser video on Instagram. 261 00:11:33,104 --> 00:11:36,304 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Laria Balton and we have an announcement to me. 262 00:11:36,624 --> 00:11:38,304 Speaker 2: God no, definitely not. 263 00:11:38,544 --> 00:11:41,344 Speaker 4: We're done having kids. This is about her show. We're 264 00:11:41,344 --> 00:11:44,864 Speaker 4: inviting you into our own experience, the ups and downs, 265 00:11:44,944 --> 00:11:47,744 Speaker 4: the good, the wow and the crazy. Home is the 266 00:11:47,744 --> 00:11:48,944 Speaker 4: place we love to be most. 267 00:11:49,264 --> 00:11:55,504 Speaker 1: We are TolC what who was that woman? Okay, so 268 00:11:56,144 --> 00:11:59,144 Speaker 1: this is one of their daughters, a woman that's hilario. 269 00:11:59,704 --> 00:12:02,264 Speaker 1: It was nice, Like I can't say her name propably. 270 00:12:02,304 --> 00:12:02,984 Speaker 4: What happened? 271 00:12:03,384 --> 00:12:05,504 Speaker 1: If you're listening to that, like Emily is right now 272 00:12:05,544 --> 00:12:08,904 Speaker 1: and thinking what the hell is up with that woman's voice, 273 00:12:09,024 --> 00:12:11,144 Speaker 1: that's because this teaser te came out and there were 274 00:12:11,144 --> 00:12:13,544 Speaker 1: all these articles being like, oh, look, the. 275 00:12:13,504 --> 00:12:15,624 Speaker 2: Family's finally doing a reality show. This is going to 276 00:12:15,664 --> 00:12:16,784 Speaker 2: be so zany and fun. 277 00:12:17,144 --> 00:12:19,264 Speaker 1: And I was looking at Tea's room being like, there's 278 00:12:19,584 --> 00:12:22,184 Speaker 1: several huge stories that are happening behind the scenes here 279 00:12:22,184 --> 00:12:24,344 Speaker 1: that we're not touching on. The First one is that 280 00:12:24,384 --> 00:12:27,184 Speaker 1: woman has forgotten about her fake accent. 281 00:12:29,104 --> 00:12:32,064 Speaker 3: My mouth is so dry, it's been open this whole 282 00:12:32,104 --> 00:12:34,104 Speaker 3: segment since she started. 283 00:12:34,664 --> 00:12:37,944 Speaker 1: So a few years ago, one of the greatest things 284 00:12:37,944 --> 00:12:40,344 Speaker 1: in the world happened, and I was so sad the 285 00:12:40,384 --> 00:12:42,264 Speaker 1: spill was on Christmas break because I almost wanted to 286 00:12:42,304 --> 00:12:45,064 Speaker 1: like leave Queensland doing emergency episode. And that is the 287 00:12:45,104 --> 00:12:48,744 Speaker 1: fact that this Twitter fed went viral about Hilaria Baldwin. 288 00:12:49,024 --> 00:12:51,464 Speaker 1: Up until now, she was just known as kind of 289 00:12:51,464 --> 00:12:54,504 Speaker 1: the beautiful young wife of Alec Boulward, no one for 290 00:12:54,584 --> 00:12:57,464 Speaker 1: having all these kids. She did, you know, some modeling 291 00:12:57,544 --> 00:12:59,704 Speaker 1: and TV presenting. She cut a hand in all these 292 00:12:59,704 --> 00:13:03,024 Speaker 1: different projects. People really loved her, and there was this 293 00:13:03,064 --> 00:13:05,984 Speaker 1: whole story that she was this very fiery Spanish woman 294 00:13:06,064 --> 00:13:08,424 Speaker 1: and Alec bulw and go on talk shows and talk 295 00:13:08,464 --> 00:13:11,224 Speaker 1: about like all their cultural differences at home home and 296 00:13:11,344 --> 00:13:14,384 Speaker 1: how he could barely understand her because he didn't speak Spanish. 297 00:13:14,464 --> 00:13:16,904 Speaker 1: And she was on the cover of these Spanish magazines 298 00:13:16,944 --> 00:13:19,464 Speaker 1: as like this beautiful woman who had married into this 299 00:13:19,584 --> 00:13:22,744 Speaker 1: you know, American family, and she would give interviews saying 300 00:13:22,744 --> 00:13:24,704 Speaker 1: that she had to try and teach her family how 301 00:13:24,744 --> 00:13:26,904 Speaker 1: to say Baldwin because I don't speak any English, and 302 00:13:27,344 --> 00:13:30,344 Speaker 1: really going to town with the Spanish thing, because you know, 303 00:13:30,584 --> 00:13:33,304 Speaker 1: as far as everyone knew, she was from Spain, and she. 304 00:13:33,384 --> 00:13:37,224 Speaker 3: One kind of assumed Spanish was her first language, learning. 305 00:13:36,944 --> 00:13:39,184 Speaker 1: English, and she very infamously won on a few talk 306 00:13:39,224 --> 00:13:41,224 Speaker 1: shows where she would be speaking in a very thick 307 00:13:41,304 --> 00:13:44,664 Speaker 1: Spanish accent. And then this Twitter third went viral and 308 00:13:44,704 --> 00:13:46,544 Speaker 1: it was like, Hey, does anyone else think it's weird 309 00:13:46,584 --> 00:13:50,904 Speaker 1: that Hilaria Baldwin was raised in Boston, So she's American. 310 00:13:50,944 --> 00:13:54,824 Speaker 1: She's raised in Boston. Her name's Hilary Thomas, I do believe, 311 00:13:55,304 --> 00:13:58,624 Speaker 1: and that woman is American. She's not from Spain at all. 312 00:13:58,744 --> 00:14:00,624 Speaker 1: She's gone on holiday. That's like me. I've been to 313 00:14:00,664 --> 00:14:03,864 Speaker 1: like France twice saying that I am Parisian. 314 00:14:05,584 --> 00:14:06,384 Speaker 2: That's the same thing. 315 00:14:06,424 --> 00:14:09,744 Speaker 1: And then that blew up like crazy, and then people 316 00:14:09,784 --> 00:14:12,064 Speaker 1: started looking to family. Both of her parents I think 317 00:14:12,104 --> 00:14:15,144 Speaker 1: they still lived in Boston, like might have like retired 318 00:14:15,224 --> 00:14:18,304 Speaker 1: and moved to Spain. But she was raised in America. 319 00:14:18,384 --> 00:14:20,504 Speaker 1: She went to an American high school and primary school, 320 00:14:20,944 --> 00:14:23,784 Speaker 1: and she would go on holiday in Spain, and so 321 00:14:24,104 --> 00:14:24,904 Speaker 1: that blew up. 322 00:14:25,064 --> 00:14:25,824 Speaker 4: It's crazy that. 323 00:14:25,784 --> 00:14:27,784 Speaker 2: She got away with that for so long. 324 00:14:28,144 --> 00:14:31,744 Speaker 1: She's the cover of Spanish magazine. 325 00:14:32,624 --> 00:14:34,984 Speaker 3: I just saw the opportunity and she took it. Oh 326 00:14:34,984 --> 00:14:36,904 Speaker 3: you know what, girl boss. I respect it. I respect 327 00:14:36,944 --> 00:14:37,304 Speaker 3: the grind. 328 00:14:37,464 --> 00:14:39,304 Speaker 1: It was just like one of the biggest grifts of 329 00:14:39,344 --> 00:14:43,144 Speaker 1: all time. And I just cannot believe. I still to 330 00:14:43,184 --> 00:14:46,224 Speaker 1: this day. Years have passed, everyone's moved on. I stayed 331 00:14:46,224 --> 00:14:50,504 Speaker 1: there because I cannot believe that for nearly a decade, 332 00:14:50,664 --> 00:14:53,464 Speaker 1: this woman became famous for being the face of Spain 333 00:14:53,784 --> 00:14:54,904 Speaker 1: and she was from Boston. 334 00:14:55,224 --> 00:14:57,864 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of forgot about this story, Like, and 335 00:14:57,904 --> 00:14:59,864 Speaker 3: I know you're mad at me about you about. 336 00:14:59,704 --> 00:15:00,464 Speaker 2: It all the time. 337 00:15:00,624 --> 00:15:02,904 Speaker 3: I need to know, because, like I just heard that 338 00:15:02,984 --> 00:15:05,704 Speaker 3: clip and that video, the trailer we played, I was 339 00:15:05,784 --> 00:15:09,104 Speaker 3: very confused who that woman was because I forgot that 340 00:15:09,304 --> 00:15:12,944 Speaker 3: Hilaria had a accent and then tried to microdose and 341 00:15:12,944 --> 00:15:15,784 Speaker 3: accent to us, pretending. 342 00:15:15,424 --> 00:15:17,424 Speaker 4: That to get rid of it, get rid of it 343 00:15:17,464 --> 00:15:20,144 Speaker 4: in the slowest of way. So what did she sound 344 00:15:20,184 --> 00:15:20,664 Speaker 4: like before? 345 00:15:20,864 --> 00:15:23,384 Speaker 2: She sounded like this, have very few ingredients. 346 00:15:23,424 --> 00:15:25,304 Speaker 4: We have tomatoes, we have. 347 00:15:26,904 --> 00:15:30,744 Speaker 2: Kind of cucumbers, we have red pepper. 348 00:15:31,024 --> 00:15:33,664 Speaker 1: Oh my god, even going in and out there, like, 349 00:15:33,704 --> 00:15:35,464 Speaker 1: I can't believe no one picked it up beforehand that 350 00:15:35,544 --> 00:15:37,984 Speaker 1: she goes in and out of different accents. So after 351 00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:40,824 Speaker 1: this whole thing blew up, she put up this video 352 00:15:40,984 --> 00:15:43,384 Speaker 1: where she did this big explanation and she said she's 353 00:15:43,424 --> 00:15:45,944 Speaker 1: always felt that she's been raised with two cultures, and 354 00:15:45,944 --> 00:15:47,864 Speaker 1: she thinks it's okay to have two cultures. And every 355 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:50,744 Speaker 1: friend's like, yes, Hillary, Thomas, Haywood, whatever your name is, 356 00:15:50,944 --> 00:15:53,824 Speaker 1: it is fine to have two cultures. However, you have 357 00:15:53,944 --> 00:15:56,464 Speaker 1: invented a backstory and you've been putting on a fake 358 00:15:56,544 --> 00:15:57,584 Speaker 1: accent for many. 359 00:15:57,384 --> 00:15:58,264 Speaker 2: Many years. 360 00:15:59,224 --> 00:16:01,584 Speaker 1: And then she was like, we would you go spend 361 00:16:01,584 --> 00:16:04,584 Speaker 1: time in Spain? And then sometimes they often spoke Spanish 362 00:16:04,584 --> 00:16:06,784 Speaker 1: at home, but her parents have like done interviews because 363 00:16:06,784 --> 00:16:08,504 Speaker 1: I think they're both professors and they do some press 364 00:16:08,544 --> 00:16:10,944 Speaker 1: and stuff, and neither of them have a hint of 365 00:16:10,984 --> 00:16:13,584 Speaker 1: a Spanish accent. And it's so funny because a few 366 00:16:13,584 --> 00:16:16,024 Speaker 1: times when they've been talking, bits have gone viral where 367 00:16:16,384 --> 00:16:19,224 Speaker 1: they've been like our daughter Ilaria, like they've had to 368 00:16:19,304 --> 00:16:22,224 Speaker 1: kind of remember what her fake name is. So that's 369 00:16:22,264 --> 00:16:23,904 Speaker 1: going on and the other kind of really. 370 00:16:23,704 --> 00:16:25,424 Speaker 4: Seriously, I want to say my parents would do that 371 00:16:25,504 --> 00:16:25,744 Speaker 4: for me. 372 00:16:26,304 --> 00:16:28,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like, oh, we've got you know, we 373 00:16:28,384 --> 00:16:31,504 Speaker 1: can't out our daughter just because we have a holiday 374 00:16:31,504 --> 00:16:34,544 Speaker 1: home for two years in Spain. She's adopted a Spanish 375 00:16:34,584 --> 00:16:37,344 Speaker 1: accent and just run with it. The other really important 376 00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:39,824 Speaker 1: thing to note here is that it's really odd timing 377 00:16:39,824 --> 00:16:41,704 Speaker 1: for this family to announce a reality show. 378 00:16:41,784 --> 00:16:43,744 Speaker 4: They've been in the news the care a weird reason. 379 00:16:43,864 --> 00:16:47,704 Speaker 2: Alec Bourwin could potentially be going to jail. So that's 380 00:16:47,704 --> 00:16:48,384 Speaker 2: about to kick off. 381 00:16:48,464 --> 00:16:51,024 Speaker 1: So if you take your mind back to twenty twenty one, 382 00:16:51,424 --> 00:16:54,144 Speaker 1: very tragically, on the set of Russ that Alec Borlwin 383 00:16:54,224 --> 00:16:56,104 Speaker 1: was the star of that movie and also a producer, 384 00:16:56,504 --> 00:17:00,584 Speaker 1: very tragically, the cinematographer Helena Hutchins was shot by a 385 00:17:00,704 --> 00:17:02,744 Speaker 1: prop gun that had a real ball and it went 386 00:17:02,784 --> 00:17:05,944 Speaker 1: off and killed her. And two people who've been involved 387 00:17:05,944 --> 00:17:08,344 Speaker 1: in that, including the armor on the film, are currently 388 00:17:08,384 --> 00:17:12,224 Speaker 1: serving like the maximumount of jail time for manslaughter from 389 00:17:12,224 --> 00:17:15,464 Speaker 1: that and with Alec Baldwin, he was previously indicted by 390 00:17:15,464 --> 00:17:19,064 Speaker 1: a grand jury on involuntary manslaughter that was earlier this year. 391 00:17:19,144 --> 00:17:22,344 Speaker 1: After last year, the prosecutors had dropped the charge and 392 00:17:22,384 --> 00:17:24,744 Speaker 1: he's pled not guilty and his trial is scheduled to 393 00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:28,144 Speaker 1: start in July, so next month. And from what a 394 00:17:28,144 --> 00:17:30,544 Speaker 1: lot of legal experts have said, it's not looking good 395 00:17:30,624 --> 00:17:32,584 Speaker 1: for the fact that the two other people who were 396 00:17:32,624 --> 00:17:35,784 Speaker 1: involved in the shooting on set, are both serving like 397 00:17:35,824 --> 00:17:39,664 Speaker 1: a maximum amount of time in prison because yeah, exactly, 398 00:17:39,704 --> 00:17:42,944 Speaker 1: because that's the priestsint that's been set now that if 399 00:17:42,984 --> 00:17:45,624 Speaker 1: he's found guilty of this, then he could be going 400 00:17:45,624 --> 00:17:49,264 Speaker 1: to jail for eighteen months to a year potentially longer. 401 00:17:49,664 --> 00:17:51,864 Speaker 1: And this trial is going to be taking place all 402 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:54,664 Speaker 1: through the rest of this year while the show is filming, 403 00:17:54,664 --> 00:17:56,504 Speaker 1: and from the teaser trailer, I don't get the vibe 404 00:17:56,624 --> 00:17:58,384 Speaker 1: that's it's meant to this zaany like, look at all 405 00:17:58,384 --> 00:18:00,464 Speaker 1: the little kids we have not like come behind the 406 00:18:00,504 --> 00:18:03,504 Speaker 1: scenes of watching this man go to trial for potentially 407 00:18:03,584 --> 00:18:04,224 Speaker 1: killing a woman. 408 00:18:04,464 --> 00:18:07,184 Speaker 3: Do you think they'll actually address it in the series, 409 00:18:07,224 --> 00:18:09,784 Speaker 3: because it's actually blows my mind that they're doing this. 410 00:18:10,344 --> 00:18:11,224 Speaker 2: Do you mean they're gonna have to? 411 00:18:11,264 --> 00:18:13,264 Speaker 1: Also, this is not airing till next year, so like 412 00:18:13,664 --> 00:18:15,104 Speaker 1: you want to hope that it's not coming out till 413 00:18:15,104 --> 00:18:17,184 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so we should have the verdict by then. 414 00:18:17,224 --> 00:18:18,264 Speaker 2: It's just very messy. 415 00:18:18,544 --> 00:18:21,104 Speaker 1: It's very messy, but I guess you know, if they're 416 00:18:21,104 --> 00:18:22,744 Speaker 1: going to start filming now, we'll see what happens and 417 00:18:22,744 --> 00:18:25,544 Speaker 1: then yes, Alec Boorman's trial is set to start in 418 00:18:25,624 --> 00:18:26,504 Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks. 419 00:18:26,904 --> 00:18:29,144 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 420 00:18:29,264 --> 00:18:31,424 Speaker 3: If you want more Spill content, like we said, we 421 00:18:31,464 --> 00:18:34,144 Speaker 3: are posting all the picks from Emily in Paris season 422 00:18:34,144 --> 00:18:36,784 Speaker 3: four that's coming up on Netflix over on our Spill Instagram. 423 00:18:36,784 --> 00:18:38,504 Speaker 4: You can find us at the Spill Podcast. 424 00:18:38,904 --> 00:18:40,904 Speaker 3: Otherwise, we will see you back here in your podcast 425 00:18:40,944 --> 00:18:42,184 Speaker 3: speed at three pm tomorrow. 426 00:18:42,344 --> 00:18:48,224 Speaker 4: Bye bye Lan.