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Speaker 1: Some I've got a great show for you today coming up.

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Speaker 1: Is there such thing as a unicorn of under eye products?

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Speaker 1: But first Nina has asked.

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Speaker 2: So, I'm nineteen and I have a few in my

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Speaker 2: skin care. I'm like pretty stricch with moisturizerjoba oil, salacilic acid,

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Speaker 2: I'd use in the day. But I'm seeing so many

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Speaker 2: things online about retinol and vitamin C and nice cinemide.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering if I add those things, is it going

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Speaker 2: even need that? When should I start using those types

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Speaker 4: Would really appreciate your help, thanks, Nina.

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Speaker 3: I think you're really overthinking things. It sounds like you're

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Speaker 3: doing everything right. You're nineteen. You really don't need to

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Speaker 3: overdo too much. I personally wouldn't even look at a

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Speaker 3: retinoal at your age, and even vitamin C unless you're

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Speaker 3: struggling with pigmentation or any sort of textual issues.

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Speaker 4: It's just not if your skin's good, stick with what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen is so young, and I love that she

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Speaker 1: brought this question because we do see Sephora kids and

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Speaker 1: they're like fourteen and you.

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Speaker 3: Ten with a fourteen step skincare regime, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: oh lord, your skin barrier when you're twenty four is

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Speaker 3: going to be that of a ninety year old.

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Speaker 1: You can be trying to do good, but but you'd

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Speaker 1: not cause a lot of issues. So, nineteen, what you're

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Speaker 1: using is great. Look, vitamin C can't hurt. It is

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Speaker 1: preventative as well as corrective, so a vitamin C and

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Speaker 1: you've mentioned nicinamide, which is vitamin B three. So all

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Speaker 1: vitamins in your skincare are antioxidants and they're going to

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Speaker 1: help fight free radicals. So the damage from you've exposure,

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Speaker 1: and or a nicinamide. But you're nineteen. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: you're rolling in cash and you've got better things to do.

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Speaker 1: Get out there and live your life. So as Kelly said,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about retino. We'll deal with that later mid

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Speaker 1: to late twenties minimum. But you've got moisturizer HOBA. That's

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Speaker 1: all great. I love that you say sunscreen because at nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and reapplication is the numb number one best skin care

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Speaker 1: But if you are super diligent at nineteen, you are

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Speaker 4: Never gonna need it. Retinal correct we're gonna need anything.

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Speaker 1: But a multi vitamin serums with seeing it and vitamin

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Speaker 1: B and some other vitamins could be good. So I've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of recommendations for you. They're not super

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Speaker 1: else you're doing is great. So there is the Paula's

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Speaker 1: Choice Super Antioxidant Serum. It is four price sixty five dollars,

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Speaker 1: Antioxidant serum, so that cannot hurt. There is the Natio

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Speaker 1: This is fantastic for the price. The Natio Aromatherapy Multi

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Speaker 1: Vitamin All Day Serum, Oh so good, twenty two ninety five.

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Speaker 1: Everyone would love this. It's got vitamin C, E, B

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Speaker 1: of taking a multi vitamin for your body, on your skin,

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Speaker 1: They've put them all in there together for you so

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Speaker 1: So you're doing great. I love that you're thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: You don't need a huge extensive routine, you don't need

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Speaker 1: yet coming up after the break, we're chatting about dark circles,

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Speaker 1: those good old bags on the pip.

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Speaker 3: So the Lovely Natalie has written in asking please share

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Speaker 3: your best I cream to make eyes feel fresh and

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Speaker 3: reduce circle lines, preferably something that won't break the bank

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Speaker 3: if such a unicorn.

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Speaker 1: Exists, Natalie, some okay news. We've got some products for you.

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Speaker 1: But dark circles are hereditary and genetics, and it depends

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Speaker 1: on your ethnicity, It depends on a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: so it's not really lifestyle related. However, improving your lifestyle

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Speaker 1: if it's not great, can help. But you can't out

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Speaker 1: Like even if you go to a yoga retreat and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is your skin correct So it's not an

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Speaker 1: and you've also said, you know, circles and lines lines

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Speaker 1: are a little bit easier. I've got a few eye

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Speaker 1: to help. But first let's start the James Cosmetics little

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Speaker 4: You put it on before you do you make up.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, and then you take it off. Yeah, you go

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Speaker 1: Imagine trying to put concealer on top. So you get

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Speaker 1: five in a pack for thirty five dollars. There's single use,

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Speaker 1: and then they're on special. They're always on special. But

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Speaker 1: My eye era is so much fresher. I'm obsessed with them,

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Speaker 1: So that's really good. Another affordable one, because I know

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Speaker 1: Solution five percent eg CG Depuffing Solution for tired eyes.

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Speaker 1: So it's basically like an icerum, it deppuffs and treats

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Speaker 1: It's fourteen dollars and sixty cents. It helps, and with

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Speaker 1: But this layers beautifully under makeup, So try that. And

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Speaker 1: one other one I really like is Laroche Paz, a

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Speaker 1: redometic anti aging I cream. So this is sort of

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Speaker 3: The one that I do love that is cheap and

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Speaker 3: cheerful is the Bondi Sands I Spy Vitamin C I cream.

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Speaker 3: it's twelve dollars. It's so good. So it's got vitamin C,

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Speaker 1: a couple of affordable ones I am going to recommend

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Speaker 1: for you is the Maybolene instant Age rewind Eraser Dark Circles.

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Speaker 1: It is literally like a little wind up dough foot.

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Speaker 1: little goes a long way. You don't need a huge

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Speaker 1: but I haven't tried this personally. Is the Knoxat Dark

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Speaker 1: Circles under Eye Concealed About that one too, It's got

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Speaker 1: so please try that for us. It says a full coverage,

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Speaker 1: creamy concealer that minimizes the appearance of dark under eye circles.

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Speaker 1: Why have I not bought this yet? Saturn finished Vitamin

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Speaker 1: which I love is the Chee Che Hide all sins Seala,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of a jupe for the cosmetics by

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Speaker 1: by under Eye nineteen ninety five. Full coverage waterproof. You

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Speaker 1: It's quite juicy and hydrating. So sorry, but I think

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Speaker 3: You don't necessarily need to put makeup on, no gosh.

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Speaker 1: That's my face. We hope that helps anything else.

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Speaker 3: I would just I've spoken about it a lot recently,

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Speaker 4: It for years. A cheer seed.

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Speaker 3: If you will under each eye, blend it out, and

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Speaker 4: It just brightens the darkness.

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Speaker 3: I spoke about this on an episode recently, a Friday

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's so good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now after the break, I'm going to tell everyone

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't need retinal.

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Speaker 4: What a you makeup hacks?

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Speaker 1: Host hag host haag, all right, will tell me about

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Speaker 4: It's actually just so simple.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of people will be like, ooh, I

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Speaker 1: I love rettin Nola. I've used it for many years.

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Speaker 1: if it likes some loube underneath. Yep, okay. My host

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Speaker 1: tag is two sort of tips in one. Kelly, months

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Speaker 4: Sometimes we just need reminders, which is why host tag's good.

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Speaker 1: And you were so good at cleaning brushes and always

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Speaker 1: and inspiring that you be still a bit more cleaning

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Speaker 1: your led mask. You must wipe that down. Do you

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Speaker 1: So I just get those anti back wipes on the supermarket,

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Speaker 4: It's so gross.

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Speaker 1: If you think of it, it's mostly like dead skin

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Speaker 4: Even if you're pulling all of the hair out weekly.

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Speaker 1: It's still for that hair spray, dry, shampoo, dead skin

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Speaker 1: warm water. If you've got a beautiful timber brush that's

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Speaker 1: don't want the timber to go moldy. But I want

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Speaker 1: bet no one has done that in this year probably.

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Speaker 4: I think that is a brilliant hack.

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Speaker 1: I could also take a leaf at the Moment book.

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Speaker 4: You'd love to know when you did it last.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was looking at mine that made me think

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Speaker 1: of it. It's on the leak.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's how these host hacks come up. That's it

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Speaker 4: for today. Thank you so much for sending in your questions.

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Speaker 1: And if you want more, come back tomorrow for a

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Speaker 1: skincare deep dive with Aaron on the formula.

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Speaker 3: The producer of You Beauty is Cassie Merrit, with audio

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Speaker 3: production by Lou Hill.

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Speaker 1: Have a great week, yearbies, and we'll see you on Friday.

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Speaker 4: Bye.