WEBVTT - A Brutally Honest Review Of Gladiator II 0:00:10.869 --> 0:00:11.189 So much. 0:00:11.229 --> 0:00:13.909 You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 0:00:14.829 --> 0:00:18.389 MoMA Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:18.389 --> 0:00:21.109 that this podcast is recorded on. Did you love the 0:00:21.149 --> 0:00:25.069 episode we did on Paul Mescal about how he supposedly 0:00:25.149 --> 0:00:28.309 runs away from his one night stance. That wasn't all 0:00:28.309 --> 0:00:30.309 we talked about, but let's be real, it was the 0:00:30.309 --> 0:00:32.629 most absurd part of it. We thought we'd share an 0:00:32.629 --> 0:00:36.389 episode of mum MIA's daily celebrity podcast, This Spill, because 0:00:36.429 --> 0:00:39.669 they did a brutally honest review of Paul's new movie 0:00:39.709 --> 0:00:43.109 Gladiator two. It's not just Paul's movie, of course, there 0:00:43.109 --> 0:00:46.029 are other big names in it too, like Pedro Pascal 0:00:46.189 --> 0:00:50.349 and Denzil Washington, but it is being called Paul Mescal's 0:00:50.429 --> 0:00:53.549 movie by all the young, cool people like us. You're 0:00:53.589 --> 0:00:56.109 about to hear about all the best and worst moments 0:00:56.109 --> 0:00:59.069 from Gladiator too, and also an acknowledgment of Russell Crow's 0:00:59.109 --> 0:01:07.069 hurt feelings for not being included. Enjoy from MoMA Mia. 0:01:07.269 --> 0:01:10.509 Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm 0:01:10.629 --> 0:01:14.709 m Burnham and I'm Laura Brednick Hand. On today's show, 0:01:15.229 --> 0:01:18.869 get your horses and carriages out because we're diving deep 0:01:19.309 --> 0:01:22.989 back into the BC time. Also AD unclear, it's AD. 0:01:23.389 --> 0:01:27.069 We're going back to the Roman Empire where Paul Mescal 0:01:27.709 --> 0:01:31.309 killed everyone. We are going to be doing much anticipated, 0:01:31.749 --> 0:01:34.509 brutally honest review of Gladiator too. 0:01:34.869 --> 0:01:36.389 Yes, and we can watch us always in there if 0:01:36.389 --> 0:01:39.589 you're not across our brilliant honest reviews, they are where 0:01:39.869 --> 0:01:42.069 we let you the audience know they're coming. So you 0:01:42.109 --> 0:01:44.389 know whichever movie or TV show that we're going to 0:01:44.389 --> 0:01:47.989 be having a passionate debate about, and it's really just 0:01:48.029 --> 0:01:50.189 a space for us to give out honest thoughts, behind 0:01:50.229 --> 0:01:54.269 the scenes stories really go deep into the core of 0:01:54.309 --> 0:01:56.549 this thing that has we have been obsessing over us 0:01:56.629 --> 0:01:59.309 since we saw it. And obviously spoiler alert, we're going 0:01:59.349 --> 0:02:01.429 to be talking about the ending. So we've given you. 0:02:01.349 --> 0:02:03.749 A full week, which we are very kind people, We'll 0:02:03.749 --> 0:02:06.389 give you a week to watch it. But yeah, spoilers. 0:02:06.589 --> 0:02:08.749 Yes, I mean Paul Meskal said he wanted people to 0:02:08.789 --> 0:02:11.389 see this in cinemas and if you've disappointed Paul, I'm 0:02:11.389 --> 0:02:12.349 just gonna say that's on you. 0:02:12.349 --> 0:02:13.269 You disappointed us. 0:02:13.589 --> 0:02:17.309 So Gladiator two with what we're here today to discuss. So, 0:02:17.429 --> 0:02:18.989 first of all, life to ask you a very important question. 0:02:19.029 --> 0:02:20.429 You've seen Gladiator the original? 0:02:20.549 --> 0:02:20.669 Right? 0:02:21.069 --> 0:02:25.749 Yes? But I saw the original after it was announced? Yes, 0:02:25.989 --> 0:02:27.349 but you went did your home or I didn't know 0:02:27.389 --> 0:02:29.789 where you went to the premiere? Many did not bes 0:02:29.829 --> 0:02:32.909 a mess, Russell Crow because. 0:02:32.589 --> 0:02:36.389 As we were sitting in the premiere and Paul Mescale 0:02:36.429 --> 0:02:38.309 had just come out on stage, and it was clapping 0:02:38.309 --> 0:02:40.109 and the lights were about to go down, and that 0:02:40.269 --> 0:02:43.069 is when a number of people around me leaned over 0:02:43.149 --> 0:02:44.549 and whispered, what. 0:02:44.469 --> 0:02:47.469 Is Gladiator the first one about? Right? You can't be 0:02:47.509 --> 0:02:49.709 Australian and not know what Gladiator is. 0:02:49.949 --> 0:02:51.709 Well, just in case some of our listeners are also 0:02:51.749 --> 0:02:53.749 in that boat that they just have no idea where 0:02:53.749 --> 0:02:55.709 the original movie is. No, no, your points did. 0:02:55.789 --> 0:02:57.669 I was in that boat until like a month ago. 0:02:57.909 --> 0:03:00.229 I just thought that everyone was sitting in the cinema 0:03:00.349 --> 0:03:02.509 about to watch this movie. And it's fair enough that 0:03:02.549 --> 0:03:04.469 you hadn't watched the first one if that was your choice, 0:03:04.509 --> 0:03:06.429 and that's the piece you'd made with what over God 0:03:06.429 --> 0:03:09.029 that you subscribed to. However, it's a weird thing to 0:03:09.069 --> 0:03:11.949 start worrying about it as the lights go down. So 0:03:12.069 --> 0:03:14.349 just in case anyone else is in that boat. Gladiator 0:03:14.429 --> 0:03:15.869 came out in the year two thousand. 0:03:16.109 --> 0:03:17.549 You've had twenty four years to watch it. 0:03:17.789 --> 0:03:22.109 Yeah, time is it digging historical epic drama directed by 0:03:22.309 --> 0:03:25.909 Ridley Scott. It was a huge success when it came 0:03:25.909 --> 0:03:27.549 out in the year two thousand. It was actually the 0:03:27.629 --> 0:03:31.589 second highest grossing film of the year. It received almost 0:03:31.749 --> 0:03:35.389 universal critical and fam acclaim. Everyone was basically saying, this 0:03:35.509 --> 0:03:37.989 is the best movie we've ever seen. It also went 0:03:38.029 --> 0:03:41.269 on to win five Academy Awards, including the very coveted 0:03:41.309 --> 0:03:44.589 Best Picture and also Best Actor for young Russell. 0:03:44.309 --> 0:03:46.749 Crowe, Ah, Little Hotty and. 0:03:46.749 --> 0:03:49.389 The most Oscars I believe one of any movie that year. 0:03:49.469 --> 0:03:53.029 So a real clean sweep across the board. So in 0:03:53.069 --> 0:03:56.549 the original movie, Russell Crowe plays a Roman general called 0:03:56.709 --> 0:03:58.509 Maximus who is betrayed. 0:03:58.589 --> 0:04:00.949 I won't get into the backstory. It's you know, it'siler 0:04:01.069 --> 0:04:04.789 last twenty four Yes, spoilers, classic guy staff betrayal, revenge. 0:04:04.949 --> 0:04:08.069 You know man is Megan Man killing other Mega men? Yeah, 0:04:08.109 --> 0:04:09.709 men don't know how to work with their feelings. And 0:04:09.709 --> 0:04:12.069 it said they go on epic quest to you know, 0:04:12.149 --> 0:04:17.669 take down their enemy Barton. So Russell Crowe is you know, 0:04:17.909 --> 0:04:20.069 Russell Crowe, Maximus, they're. 0:04:19.789 --> 0:04:21.789 All very entertain it's Russell and Paul. 0:04:22.189 --> 0:04:24.429 Yeah, we're gonna be calling them Russell and Paul henceforth 0:04:24.429 --> 0:04:27.509 instead of their character names. So Russell Crowe reduced to slavery, 0:04:27.709 --> 0:04:30.549 becomes a gladiator and rises through the ranks of the arena, 0:04:31.029 --> 0:04:34.829 and spoiler Rolert because it's very crucial to Gladiator two, 0:04:35.269 --> 0:04:37.709 he dies at the end, which brings. 0:04:37.509 --> 0:04:39.909 Us to he had a good run? Did I think 0:04:39.949 --> 0:04:42.069 he did? I guess he died trying to like save 0:04:42.109 --> 0:04:45.709 his feet for a purpose, something greater than him as 0:04:45.749 --> 0:04:46.269 a man. 0:04:46.309 --> 0:04:48.549 Any of us can ask for. I meant, I don't 0:04:48.549 --> 0:04:49.109 want that to be me. 0:04:49.269 --> 0:04:50.469 No, I would never die for anyone. 0:04:50.509 --> 0:04:52.189 I wouldn't if anyone wouldn't die for you, wouldn't I 0:04:52.349 --> 0:04:53.949 Kim our producer. I'm just saying that now. 0:04:53.989 --> 0:04:57.589 But speaking of Kim our producer, So you're saying this, 0:04:57.589 --> 0:05:00.349 this is a recap of Gladiator one, because okay, you 0:05:00.429 --> 0:05:02.429 do kind of have to have a sense of Gladiator 0:05:02.469 --> 0:05:05.509 one before you watch Gladiator two. However, I was sitting 0:05:05.629 --> 0:05:10.509 between our video producer Julian and our producer Kim. Both 0:05:10.549 --> 0:05:12.869 have watched Gladiator, both had no idea what was going on. 0:05:12.909 --> 0:05:15.469 The amount of questions I got from these two people 0:05:16.069 --> 0:05:16.749 was insane. 0:05:16.949 --> 0:05:20.029 People asking me questions in the movie quite stresses me 0:05:20.069 --> 0:05:21.829 out because I'm like, please hold questions to the end. 0:05:21.829 --> 0:05:24.109 First of all, no talking during the movie. You're interrupting 0:05:24.149 --> 0:05:25.829 me watching men kill themselves. 0:05:25.829 --> 0:05:27.469 Second of all, I hate it when like, I guess 0:05:27.469 --> 0:05:28.909 this is different, because they could be like, is that 0:05:28.909 --> 0:05:31.109 the guy from the first movie, and you can be like, no, 0:05:31.189 --> 0:05:31.629 shut up. 0:05:31.789 --> 0:05:33.469 But it's more so when I want to see like 0:05:33.469 --> 0:05:34.469 one hundred years old. 0:05:34.949 --> 0:05:36.509 There's so many movies I go to and listen to 0:05:36.589 --> 0:05:39.229 a brand new story, and like a friend or whoever 0:05:39.229 --> 0:05:41.589 I'm with from work will lean over and say, what's 0:05:41.589 --> 0:05:44.469 happening here? I'm like, we have the same information. We're 0:05:44.509 --> 0:05:45.589 watching the same movie. 0:05:45.749 --> 0:05:48.989 My mom does that all like opening credit. Yeah, She'll 0:05:48.989 --> 0:05:51.269 be like, why are we at the beach? I'm like, Mom, 0:05:51.309 --> 0:05:53.189 this is literally the first thing. I don't know why 0:05:53.229 --> 0:05:55.389 they're gonna tell us. Okay, now we put that gripe 0:05:55.429 --> 0:05:55.789 out there. 0:05:56.269 --> 0:05:58.709 We had to get that's just a love letter to 0:05:58.749 --> 0:06:00.309 all of our friends and family not to talk to 0:06:00.389 --> 0:06:04.349 us in the movies. So basically, Gladiator two takes place 0:06:04.469 --> 0:06:07.029 many many years, like well over a decade after Gladiator one. 0:06:07.069 --> 0:06:11.109 And we know this because the son of Maximum Lucius, 0:06:11.309 --> 0:06:13.949 Lucius was a child in the first movie, and now 0:06:13.989 --> 0:06:16.789 he's a grown up, buff, adult man in the form 0:06:16.829 --> 0:06:19.309 of Paul Mescal looking very hot. It must be said 0:06:19.309 --> 0:06:21.229 and will be said many times throughout this podcast. 0:06:21.229 --> 0:06:24.309 So that is the biggest spoiler in the entire film. 0:06:24.709 --> 0:06:27.469 I think people knew that growing in, right, Yeah, I 0:06:27.589 --> 0:06:30.309 knew it, But that's because, like we're Gladiator fans, there 0:06:30.309 --> 0:06:32.309 are some people in the cinema, Kim, who were like, 0:06:32.989 --> 0:06:34.229 what's going on? Who was that? 0:06:34.589 --> 0:06:38.829 So after Maximus was killed, Lucius was like spirited away 0:06:38.869 --> 0:06:41.829 secretly by his mother Lucilla, played by Connie Nielsen, who 0:06:41.869 --> 0:06:45.469 is reprising her role from the first movie as Maximus's lover. 0:06:45.749 --> 0:06:48.549 Can we talk about some low brow rumors for a second. 0:06:48.589 --> 0:06:51.269 Oh sure. I was watching an interview when they were 0:06:51.309 --> 0:06:54.629 doing the press junket with Paul Mescal and Fred Hegenjer, 0:06:54.949 --> 0:06:59.349 and the interviewer asked Paul if Russell Crowe had called 0:06:59.429 --> 0:07:02.029 him and like given him some tips, and Paul straight 0:07:02.069 --> 0:07:04.229 away was like, no, I haven't talked to Russell Crowe, 0:07:04.269 --> 0:07:05.669 Like I haven't talked to him at all, and I 0:07:05.709 --> 0:07:09.429 was like, knowing what we know about Russell Crowe, he's 0:07:09.469 --> 0:07:12.309 an angry man. It has to be said. He would 0:07:12.349 --> 0:07:14.589 agree with that. He would agree with that. I Oh, 0:07:15.069 --> 0:07:17.349 I feel bad for Paul, But you know what, this 0:07:17.469 --> 0:07:19.829 movie was great, and I just wish I just feel 0:07:19.869 --> 0:07:22.589 like if Russell just gave him like a few like tips, 0:07:22.709 --> 0:07:25.789 or like had like a few little cameo roles like 0:07:25.829 --> 0:07:28.629 I think that could have just been like the perfect movie. 0:07:28.989 --> 0:07:30.749 It was a great movie. I think that could have 0:07:30.749 --> 0:07:31.389 made it perfect. 0:07:31.749 --> 0:07:33.909 Can I tell you a rumor that I think an 0:07:34.029 --> 0:07:37.749 unfounded and unfounded accusation it must be said around why 0:07:37.829 --> 0:07:41.269 there might be bad blood between Paul Mescal and Russell Crowe, 0:07:41.269 --> 0:07:43.349 a rumor that we are starting here on this very podcast. 0:07:43.349 --> 0:07:44.829 I mean, the bad blood. This one's been around for 0:07:44.829 --> 0:07:46.829 a while. I mean, when you have a blockbuster movie 0:07:46.829 --> 0:07:49.949 like that, of course everyone starts saying afterwards, after one 0:07:49.989 --> 0:07:52.349 of the oscars have made that much money, sequel, what 0:07:52.389 --> 0:07:54.949 do we do next? And so Ridley Scott and the 0:07:54.989 --> 0:07:57.389 team behind the first Gladiator movie were in talks for 0:07:57.429 --> 0:07:59.589 a long time to try and get a sequel up 0:07:59.669 --> 0:08:03.509 much sooner than twenty years but Russell Crowe well, allegedly 0:08:03.629 --> 0:08:07.509 again massive. Allegedly, Russell Crowe had thought he could probably 0:08:07.629 --> 0:08:09.709 come back because the biggest role of his career at 0:08:09.709 --> 0:08:10.109 this point. 0:08:10.189 --> 0:08:12.189 How did he think he'd come back he died? 0:08:12.429 --> 0:08:15.989 Well, apparently he favored a fantasy element in bringing Maximus 0:08:16.069 --> 0:08:19.269 back to life. But the studio were the ones who 0:08:19.269 --> 0:08:22.589 were like, no, it's not we can't bring you back 0:08:22.629 --> 0:08:25.629 to life in any kind of way. And they were 0:08:25.669 --> 0:08:28.389 the ones who were really pushing on having his son 0:08:28.789 --> 0:08:31.269 take on the main storyline because they were like, that kid, 0:08:31.309 --> 0:08:33.549 what happened to him? Surely he grows up to be 0:08:33.629 --> 0:08:35.669 a little mini Russell Crowe when he cast a hot 0:08:35.709 --> 0:08:37.389 young actor done. 0:08:37.229 --> 0:08:39.749 Something like a faster situation. Do you know where he 0:08:39.789 --> 0:08:42.709 appears in the stars and he's like Lucius looked to 0:08:42.829 --> 0:08:47.189 the sky, I am always with to you and he's like, wait, 0:08:47.229 --> 0:08:49.389 you're my dad. I thought you were just some idol. 0:08:49.429 --> 0:08:51.989 I liked It's funny because they kept having all these 0:08:52.029 --> 0:08:55.109 almost like ghostly moments rut the scene where Maximus aka 0:08:55.189 --> 0:08:57.189 Russell Crowe was meant to be there, like did you 0:08:57.189 --> 0:08:59.749 see how like the wind swept some of the gradd 0:09:01.229 --> 0:09:01.989 They tried. 0:09:01.829 --> 0:09:03.909 So hard to make it look like Russell was there, 0:09:03.949 --> 0:09:06.189 and we knew he wasn't there. Well, that scene right 0:09:06.229 --> 0:09:08.989 at the end where he's like stroking some flowers, like 0:09:09.029 --> 0:09:11.749 a field of flowers, and he was stroking the gravel 0:09:11.749 --> 0:09:13.989 where his father died. My god, I wonder whose hand 0:09:14.069 --> 0:09:16.229 that was. I wonder how much I got paid. 0:09:16.309 --> 0:09:19.469 You know, to be Russell Crowe's hand. So that all happened. Okay, 0:09:19.509 --> 0:09:22.309 back to the original movie. So yeah, it was a 0:09:22.349 --> 0:09:24.269 little fun segue rap Russell Ckroe. 0:09:24.269 --> 0:09:28.309 He's still alive. But is his career? I don't know. No, 0:09:28.429 --> 0:09:30.389 it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. 0:09:30.429 --> 0:09:32.349 I once bumped into Russell crow at a premiere and 0:09:32.389 --> 0:09:34.829 because of whoy we're standing our faces smashed together and 0:09:34.869 --> 0:09:37.469 our noses touched, and that's beautiful. And he looked angry 0:09:37.469 --> 0:09:39.069 at me, but he looked angrier at all the people 0:09:39.069 --> 0:09:42.909 around us who were there to support his movie. So okay, 0:09:43.549 --> 0:09:44.309 just an angry man. 0:09:44.509 --> 0:09:47.669 So it starts off with Paul feeding some chickens, right, 0:09:47.869 --> 0:09:51.509 He's like in his beautiful country home with his beautiful wife, 0:09:51.589 --> 0:09:53.989 his hot hot were the most good looking people in 0:09:54.069 --> 0:09:57.629 all of the land, probably in that entire century. Everyone 0:09:57.669 --> 0:09:59.669 who looks at them, just can't stop staring because you 0:09:59.709 --> 0:10:03.069 know what, they've got vineers, they've got great they've got 0:10:03.149 --> 0:10:05.309 great skin, they're muscly, they're. 0:10:05.269 --> 0:10:08.429 They're both warriors too, two sexy warriors who fell in 0:10:08.429 --> 0:10:09.069 love and got married. 0:10:09.109 --> 0:10:11.709 I don't have a single nick on them until we'll 0:10:11.749 --> 0:10:13.709 get there. We'll get to the next But they're living 0:10:13.749 --> 0:10:17.509 in this place called Numidia. It's a place around Rome, 0:10:17.909 --> 0:10:20.429 and it's during the time where the Romans wanted to 0:10:20.429 --> 0:10:25.029 take over every village, town, country city around them because 0:10:25.029 --> 0:10:28.749 they wanted to be the ultimate ultimate city. So I 0:10:28.749 --> 0:10:31.109 think Numidia was the last one that Rome had to 0:10:31.149 --> 0:10:34.149 take over. So Paul's like, got the boys together, we 0:10:34.229 --> 0:10:36.349 got to get ready. We also find out that he's 0:10:36.509 --> 0:10:40.469 somewhat a prominent figure in his hometown army. He gives 0:10:40.469 --> 0:10:43.549 like a lot of speeches. He's like, what we do 0:10:43.749 --> 0:10:46.669 we do together, and we do it to fight for Numidia. 0:10:47.069 --> 0:10:50.269 And everyone's like, fuck yeah. I'd be like pissing myself 0:10:50.309 --> 0:10:51.989 because I'd be so scared. I don't have time to 0:10:52.069 --> 0:10:53.909 listen to this. I'm like, can we all just watch 0:10:53.989 --> 0:10:57.789 what's happening? These ships are coming so fast. They've got 0:10:57.829 --> 0:11:00.389 like I don't know. They probably had some motors back there. 0:11:00.509 --> 0:11:03.389 They were going very fast, really fast. And also like, 0:11:03.629 --> 0:11:06.149 I don't know how they got their aim so good, 0:11:06.269 --> 0:11:09.349 Like with all the bombs and the like catapults, Like 0:11:09.389 --> 0:11:11.309 how could they aim so well when they do the 0:11:11.469 --> 0:11:14.309 training soldiers. Yeah, but they'd had no telescopes. I was 0:11:14.349 --> 0:11:16.669 just very stressful. So when I saw the ships, I 0:11:16.709 --> 0:11:18.709 was like, Ah, this is dumb. You think you can 0:11:18.749 --> 0:11:21.109 fight this massive land of people while you're coming on 0:11:21.109 --> 0:11:23.869 your little rickety boat. And you were wrong. I was 0:11:23.869 --> 0:11:26.549 wrong because you know what, Then I saw Pedro Pascal, 0:11:26.909 --> 0:11:30.069 and I was like, no one's safe here. The minute 0:11:30.069 --> 0:11:32.429 I see Pedro Pascal, he did one of those things 0:11:32.429 --> 0:11:34.909 where like he sees his soldiers fighting and trying to 0:11:34.949 --> 0:11:37.309 get up a ladder and he's like, oh, I have 0:11:37.389 --> 0:11:39.509 to do it myself, and he just like pushes everyone 0:11:39.549 --> 0:11:41.629 away and he's like, I'll get up there. He gets 0:11:41.709 --> 0:11:45.669 up there, he kills some prominent people are my prominent. 0:11:45.749 --> 0:11:47.069 I mean Paul's. 0:11:46.629 --> 0:11:49.829 Wife, Paul's hot wife. That was actually a very sad moment. 0:11:49.909 --> 0:11:51.669 A lot of moments in this movie are very cheesy 0:11:51.709 --> 0:11:53.309 and silly, especially it has to be a lot of 0:11:53.309 --> 0:11:55.109 the deaths because some of them as the movie goes along, 0:11:55.229 --> 0:11:56.629 some of them get a bit comical. 0:11:56.749 --> 0:11:57.749 We'll get to it shucks. 0:11:58.029 --> 0:12:01.269 But Paul Muscal's wife I thought was quite sad because 0:12:01.429 --> 0:12:02.549 they make eye contact. 0:12:02.589 --> 0:12:03.749 Everyone around them is dying. 0:12:04.069 --> 0:12:06.429 And then that arrow just like pierces her heart and 0:12:06.429 --> 0:12:08.429 she looks so shocked, and then she just falls into 0:12:08.469 --> 0:12:11.389 the water. And then they have almost like a dream 0:12:11.429 --> 0:12:14.269 sequence where you see, you know the legend that you 0:12:14.309 --> 0:12:16.309 get when you pass away, you get rowed across the 0:12:16.389 --> 0:12:18.829 river sticks by the ferryman, and that's what Paul was 0:12:18.829 --> 0:12:21.429 seeing as his wife got onto the faeryom was rowed away, 0:12:21.429 --> 0:12:22.549 which means she died. 0:12:22.349 --> 0:12:24.509 Because he got knocked out as well, so he was 0:12:24.549 --> 0:12:26.989 having that dream. And then he wakes up on the 0:12:26.989 --> 0:12:28.909 beach like the soldiers pulled him on to shore, and 0:12:28.909 --> 0:12:31.789 he sees his wife's body floating in the ocean, and 0:12:31.789 --> 0:12:33.509 he goes to run towards her. I don't know how 0:12:33.509 --> 0:12:34.869 he got there so fast, because I thought it was 0:12:34.909 --> 0:12:36.669 a riptid because he was going back and forth. But 0:12:36.709 --> 0:12:39.189 he gets there eventually, and then he does like this 0:12:39.269 --> 0:12:41.309 big sob and. 0:12:41.229 --> 0:12:43.109 Then we I thought it was he can see that 0:12:43.149 --> 0:12:45.029 he wants to bury her, but he knows the soldiers 0:12:45.029 --> 0:12:47.069 are coming to take him, so he does that really 0:12:47.109 --> 0:12:49.189 beautiful thing where he just tries to pull as much 0:12:49.229 --> 0:12:51.389 as the arrow out of her heart and then pushes 0:12:51.429 --> 0:12:53.229 her ount to the ocean because it's obviously He's like, 0:12:53.269 --> 0:12:55.389 I can't do anything, but I don't want my wife's 0:12:55.389 --> 0:12:57.509 body floating with an arrow sticking out of it, So 0:12:57.589 --> 0:12:58.949 all I can do is pull it out and just 0:12:58.949 --> 0:13:00.389 push her, and he keeps the arrow. 0:13:00.749 --> 0:13:02.589 Yeah, the arrow is like a little motif of a 0:13:02.629 --> 0:13:05.349 reminder of his wife throughout the entire film. Oh yeah, 0:13:05.349 --> 0:13:05.869 I was quite much. 0:13:05.989 --> 0:13:16.949 Yeah, it is an art choosing gladiators, they're usually prisoners 0:13:16.949 --> 0:13:17.389 of war. 0:13:19.189 --> 0:13:22.069 I claim this city for the glory of Rome. 0:13:25.269 --> 0:13:30.349 You have something in you wait, never let it go. 0:13:32.669 --> 0:13:36.829 It will carry you to quatness. 0:13:37.629 --> 0:13:41.469 Okay, So that was like probably the saddest part. Oh 0:13:41.549 --> 0:13:43.029 there was a few sad parts, but that was like 0:13:43.069 --> 0:13:44.829 the big sad one where we're like, oh shit, this 0:13:44.949 --> 0:13:48.429 is real. We then find out that Pedro Pascal is 0:13:48.469 --> 0:13:51.389 the general of the Roman Army. He doesn't seem to 0:13:51.549 --> 0:13:54.029 crash hot about his job. It just seems like something 0:13:54.029 --> 0:13:57.069 he's got to do. He's trying to quite quit pay 0:13:57.109 --> 0:13:59.389 the bills. He's trying to quite quit not conquer any 0:13:59.429 --> 0:14:01.309 more countries, but no one will let him. He did 0:14:01.349 --> 0:14:05.069 something really interesting where when he claims the land, he 0:14:05.189 --> 0:14:08.949 seems so not disinterested but ashamed almost, And that's I 0:14:08.949 --> 0:14:11.189 think where we get the first clear said Pedro Pascal 0:14:11.349 --> 0:14:13.149 might sort of be a different character than what we 0:14:13.269 --> 0:14:13.749 think he is. 0:14:13.949 --> 0:14:16.069 Yeah, because he set it through the eyes of poor Mescal. 0:14:16.189 --> 0:14:18.389 He is seen to be like this vicious killer, and 0:14:18.429 --> 0:14:19.909 I guess you know, he was leading the army that 0:14:19.989 --> 0:14:22.589 killed his wife and his friends. But what we see 0:14:22.629 --> 0:14:27.029 about acacious Pedro Pascal's character is that he is a 0:14:27.029 --> 0:14:32.669 soldier and a general who thrives off defending Rome and defending. 0:14:32.309 --> 0:14:35.669 They have the best character development in the entire film. Yeah, 0:14:35.669 --> 0:14:37.549 he really because you see him in this impossible situation. 0:14:37.669 --> 0:14:40.349 And then now he's because no one's actually attacking Rome 0:14:40.429 --> 0:14:42.389 because they hold all the armies in land and all 0:14:42.389 --> 0:14:45.909 that sort of stuff. Now, the two emperors geta played 0:14:45.909 --> 0:14:49.309 by Joseph Quinn and Emperor karro Kella played by a 0:14:49.309 --> 0:14:54.069 good friend Fred, basically just thirsty for more power and 0:14:54.109 --> 0:14:57.029 more land. A young men who don't know anything different. 0:14:57.069 --> 0:15:00.029 They've had everything handed to them on a silver pladdle, literally, 0:15:00.869 --> 0:15:03.589 and now they're only getting their only form of entertainment 0:15:03.589 --> 0:15:05.509 because they don't have TVs back there. They'd hate the spill. 0:15:05.509 --> 0:15:07.549 They'd have no idea what we're talking about. Yeah, the 0:15:07.549 --> 0:15:09.989 only form of entertainment they have is to watch men 0:15:10.269 --> 0:15:12.669 kill each other, and they are thriving off. 0:15:12.629 --> 0:15:15.029 It and sending a Casius out to all these different 0:15:15.029 --> 0:15:16.549 places to conquer, where he's like, I just want to 0:15:16.549 --> 0:15:18.389 be at home with my wife. Let's talk about the 0:15:18.389 --> 0:15:20.829 Empress for a second, because they were very well done 0:15:21.109 --> 0:15:21.709 and as. 0:15:21.629 --> 0:15:23.309 Scary they were because they. 0:15:23.149 --> 0:15:24.909 Have that thing, like we were saying when we did 0:15:24.909 --> 0:15:27.069 our little review of this on a previous episode, is 0:15:27.069 --> 0:15:29.589 that they have that thing is that they're entertaining to watch. 0:15:29.589 --> 0:15:31.549 But they're also like I have like a deep hatred 0:15:31.589 --> 0:15:33.389 for them, and I think that's very hard because to 0:15:33.469 --> 0:15:35.589 hate a character, you also have to see them as 0:15:35.629 --> 0:15:38.949 like fully formed people. And I really could just see 0:15:38.949 --> 0:15:42.189 these two spoiled, awful men who were just being brought 0:15:42.269 --> 0:15:46.149 up with immense power and privilege, no idea what to 0:15:46.189 --> 0:15:49.189 do with it, and instead they weren't even that power hungry. 0:15:49.309 --> 0:15:51.589 They were to extent, but they actually cared more about 0:15:51.989 --> 0:15:54.189 entertainment and being really sadistic. 0:15:53.669 --> 0:15:56.309 And they wanted people to take them seriously. It reminded 0:15:56.349 --> 0:15:59.229 me so much of Jeoffrey and Game of Throne had 0:15:59.229 --> 0:16:01.989 that same character one hundred percent. And I think we 0:16:02.029 --> 0:16:04.749 talked about in the last episode in such a dangerous 0:16:04.829 --> 0:16:07.869 villain because they don't kill out of hatred, they kill 0:16:07.949 --> 0:16:11.589 out of joy. Yeah, one hundred percent. They're just completely unhinged, 0:16:11.629 --> 0:16:14.269 like no one is safe, Like anytime they feel like 0:16:14.269 --> 0:16:16.749 someone's betrayed them, or they think someone's making fun of them, 0:16:16.829 --> 0:16:19.069 or they think someone's on their side, just immediately killed. 0:16:19.309 --> 0:16:22.829 So Ridley Scott described the characters as damaged goods from birth, 0:16:23.349 --> 0:16:25.749 and this is the wildest thing I've ever heard. So 0:16:26.229 --> 0:16:29.469 Apparently Joseph Quinn, who plays guitar, said that he was 0:16:29.509 --> 0:16:33.669 being really careful not to soil Joaquin Phoenix's performance in 0:16:33.709 --> 0:16:36.589 the original movie, who was the villain, and so he 0:16:36.869 --> 0:16:40.549 didn't look to him. Instead, he took inspiration from Philip 0:16:40.549 --> 0:16:44.149 Simoor Hoffman's villain in Mission Impossible three one of your favors, 0:16:44.189 --> 0:16:48.069 I'm sure, and also Gary Oldman's character from the Fifth Element. 0:16:48.669 --> 0:16:52.229 But Ridley Scott has said that the two evil Emperors 0:16:53.029 --> 0:16:56.389 are actually based well, one of their inspirations, I feel like. 0:16:56.389 --> 0:16:58.709 You're gonna drop a troop bomb right now, are based 0:16:58.749 --> 0:17:01.909 on the cartoon Beavis and butt Head. No you can't 0:17:01.949 --> 0:17:04.469 take me, but you cannot take my bumbhole. I am 0:17:04.469 --> 0:17:08.349 the Great Corn And once you hear it, oh my god, 0:17:08.389 --> 0:17:12.469 you can't unsee it. He watched Bea. 0:17:13.069 --> 0:17:15.509 So it ran from nineteen ninety three to twenty eleven, 0:17:15.549 --> 0:17:17.869 like it went for so long, and it was basically 0:17:17.909 --> 0:17:21.549 about these like really dumb teenagers and all the crazy, 0:17:21.949 --> 0:17:23.589 ridiculous antiques. 0:17:23.149 --> 0:17:24.669 They get, but you love them. 0:17:24.709 --> 0:17:27.229 It was like the epitome of like dumb humor. Yeah, 0:17:27.589 --> 0:17:30.749 oh my god, and how they each other up and everything. Literally, 0:17:30.829 --> 0:17:34.189 this whole epic dramatic story is based on Beavis and 0:17:34.229 --> 0:17:34.829 butt Head. 0:17:34.989 --> 0:17:38.229 And it was, yeah, their whole thing, and they're like obsession, 0:17:38.309 --> 0:17:40.469 Like I think my favorite scene in the whole movie 0:17:41.229 --> 0:17:45.429 was them calling in Paul to watch him fight. Yes, 0:17:45.549 --> 0:17:48.549 So what we just skipped over was like all the 0:17:48.549 --> 0:17:51.949 strong men from Pedro Pascal from the place that he 0:17:52.069 --> 0:17:55.109 just kind of violently murdered all the survivors and the 0:17:55.149 --> 0:17:58.229 strong men were taken prisoner back to Rome to be 0:17:58.389 --> 0:18:01.749 sold as gladiators. The person who controls the gladiators and 0:18:01.789 --> 0:18:05.349 owns them as Denzel Washington, very sexy men. Yes, everyone 0:18:05.549 --> 0:18:07.549 is really sexy in this movie and have great tea. 0:18:07.549 --> 0:18:11.069 Even there being evil, campy, ridiculous, Like Denzel Washington was like, 0:18:11.269 --> 0:18:13.909