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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty of body.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 2: Your Face.

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Speaker 1: I am Sarah Marie Bard.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Kelly mccaren and this is in Her Bag?

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Speaker 3: Will we talk about what's in your makeup bag and why?

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Speaker 2: And today we are diving into the jupes debates. Are

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Speaker 2: they really worth the hype? Are some actually better than originals?

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Speaker 2: And which Holy Grail products? Can we never dupe the undupable?

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Speaker 1: Let's get straight into it. I love a jeep, I do,

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Speaker 1: and I don't.

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Speaker 2: I had to find the liner in my bag.

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Speaker 3: I've got some thoughts about Joop, So first up, let's

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Speaker 3: have an ask around the office and find out what

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Speaker 3: beauty products women are swearing by that happen to be joops.

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Speaker 4: And you know, let me tell you, people had some opinions.

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Speaker 2: I love all the elf beauty products, I have them all,

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Speaker 2: but I seriously tell everyone I know about their dupe.

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Speaker 3: Of the flawless filter from Charlotte Tilbury because I think

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Speaker 2: I find this one interesting because well, you and I

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Speaker 2: both are a big Charlotte Tilbury fan.

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Speaker 3: That's a big call to say, yeah, beauty ones, I disagree.

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Speaker 3: So personally I find the elf on way too glittery. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't like a sparkle. Charlotte Tilbrey has a glow.

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Speaker 3: It does is a difference.

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Speaker 4: You do not want glitter on you.

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Speaker 1: No texture smoothing, anti aging.

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Speaker 2: You need to stay away from anything like frosty, glittery

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Speaker 1: Like it's too much, too much. The Sephora collection eyeshadows

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Speaker 3: I think that this is genius and this is a

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Speaker 3: good way to dupe because it's just the colors, it's

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Speaker 4: So I think the Sephora collection is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the products good.

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Speaker 3: Pigment I've never actually tried one, but I'm everything I've

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Speaker 2: Incredible, So I think the pigments are really good, prices

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Speaker 1: They've got enough in the pan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, actually, it's a great option.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that one, all right, So let's actually

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Speaker 2: talk about what a dupe is.

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Speaker 3: So droops have absolutely blown up over the past few years,

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Speaker 3: despite the concept not being new. So products that are

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Speaker 3: taken inspiration from designers and you just walk into came

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Speaker 4: And it was only actually after like I used to

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah this is the for this or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But Hilary Holmes talked about this on her Instagram last

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Speaker 3: end of the day, it's about language. And dupes can

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Speaker 3: But imagine if we applied that logic to everything. And so,

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Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, corporations are still people.

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Speaker 3: So I just think that that is definitely worth considering

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, for me personally, when I'm looking for a jupe,

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Speaker 2: finding a replica for these exact products. Right, let's say

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Speaker 2: When I hear jip, I'm like, okay, is it a

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Speaker 1: But I don't want them to be like, yeah, this

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Speaker 2: This is exactly the same thing, because I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: once you start saying that to me, I can't trust

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Speaker 2: is very close to this product. If you like this,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna really like this product. I'm like, okay, that's

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Speaker 2: that's personally what I like, Percy. I just don't like

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Speaker 2: because you know what, it's actually not going to be.

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Speaker 3: It's never going to be exactly the same. Great, I'm

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Speaker 3: happy to try it.

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Speaker 4: I completely agree.

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Speaker 3: Let's look at unskin cuticles Vitamin C the really cult product.

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Speaker 3: It's two hundred and thirty ish dollars. No vitamin C

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Speaker 3: product is ever going to replicate that because they are

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not? But you know what, it actually might work

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Speaker 3: better for you exactly. Yeah, that's the language. That's how

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Speaker 3: I've always seen it. Like, I don't necessarily want someone

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Speaker 3: to tell me it's a fake replica line. That's like

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Speaker 3: a fake Gucci bag. You know, it's not the real thing.

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Speaker 3: It's never going to be told me.

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Speaker 2: The quality is great and this it's product's comparable to this.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm going to be happy to try it. Well,

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Speaker 1: How do you do it?

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Speaker 3: Come on, I'll show you, all right, you because we

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Speaker 3: asked you to send in your dream due requests, those

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Speaker 2: So the first one that someone asked us about was

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Speaker 2: the Ray Morris Kobuki brush, which is two hundred and

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Speaker 1: Brushes anything like that.

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Speaker 2: If you go to like, for example, Scotti's Makeup, that's

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Speaker 2: where a lot of the makeup artists go. When you're

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Speaker 1: Of the prices are actually pretty decent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the quality is actually really I still have

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Speaker 2: shape wise, very similar shape the Ray Morris kobuki brush.

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Speaker 2: It is softer and from memory, it's a goat's hair,

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Speaker 3: Georgia l Money Luminous Silk Foundation. Now this is over

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Speaker 3: popular ones is the Laureal True Match Liquid Foundation. Now,

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Speaker 3: the True Match Liquid Foundation, which is so interesting that

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Speaker 3: so many people think it's like a direct, like, oh

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Speaker 3: definitely wouldn't be. But yeah, different things work for so

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Speaker 1: Last on me, either wow people love it orated.

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Speaker 4: People love that product so much.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those foundations when it works for you,

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Speaker 2: it's your right. Or I've seen people wearing it, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: probably it's just not for me. It just doesn't stay

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Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, it comes off for me. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: when it suits you, mate, it is gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: So I definitely think you should go and have a

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Speaker 3: little play with the Lorel True match because save you

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Speaker 3: Georgia own money unless you're really rich, of course, for

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Speaker 3: special occasions, and then have you one that's under thirty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you just need an every day one.

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Speaker 2: So the next product that we were asked about was

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Speaker 2: the Chanelle Sleis de Tinne. It's ninety one dollars. Okay,

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Speaker 2: people really say how much they love this product, you do?

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Speaker 3: Guarantee you I'm going to go try it, and then

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Speaker 3: I will be back in Your Ears and Dies next week.

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Speaker 4: Bye Bye