1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,225 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,065 --> 00:00:24,265 Speaker 3: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed. 5 00:00:24,065 --> 00:00:26,425 Speaker 2: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 6 00:00:26,705 --> 00:00:28,985 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 7 00:00:29,065 --> 00:00:29,785 Speaker 3: for fashion. 8 00:00:31,585 --> 00:00:34,465 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Air, the podcast that 9 00:00:34,505 --> 00:00:36,185 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems. 10 00:00:35,745 --> 00:00:37,265 Speaker 1: And levels up your wardrobe. 11 00:00:37,545 --> 00:00:40,465 Speaker 2: I'm Lee Campbellon every week I chat to an expert 12 00:00:40,505 --> 00:00:42,505 Speaker 2: who helps us get more out of the clothes we 13 00:00:42,545 --> 00:00:45,465 Speaker 2: already own and tells us exactly what is and isn't 14 00:00:45,505 --> 00:00:46,905 Speaker 2: worth adding to our wardrobes. 15 00:00:47,545 --> 00:00:49,345 Speaker 1: Joining me again this week is. 16 00:00:49,265 --> 00:00:52,625 Speaker 2: The wonderful Tomorra Holland she is here to help me 17 00:00:52,705 --> 00:00:56,585 Speaker 2: unpack the biggest four weeks in the fashion calendar each year, 18 00:00:57,105 --> 00:01:02,905 Speaker 2: Fashion Month. So Fashion Week has just finished in New York, London, Rome, 19 00:01:03,105 --> 00:01:05,505 Speaker 2: and Paris and that adds up to Fashion Month and 20 00:01:05,505 --> 00:01:07,985 Speaker 2: that's where all the trends sort of start and trickle down. 21 00:01:08,145 --> 00:01:09,945 Speaker 2: So to help me understand what the trends are and 22 00:01:09,985 --> 00:01:12,585 Speaker 2: how they're going to translate to our stores and what's 23 00:01:12,625 --> 00:01:17,625 Speaker 2: in our wardrobe, it's the lovely tem Welcome back, Thank you. 24 00:01:17,185 --> 00:01:19,225 Speaker 3: I'm well, I'm like high off fashion Month. 25 00:01:19,465 --> 00:01:22,465 Speaker 2: I bet you ay. It's where you shine, so lucky. 26 00:01:22,585 --> 00:01:25,305 Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about. Fashion Month has just wrapped. 27 00:01:25,345 --> 00:01:27,905 Speaker 2: That's all the big four fashion weeks around the world. 28 00:01:27,665 --> 00:01:29,945 Speaker 3: Correct, New York, London, Milan in Paris. 29 00:01:30,025 --> 00:01:32,945 Speaker 2: Yes, and I wonder if they'll ever add Copenhagen into 30 00:01:32,945 --> 00:01:34,745 Speaker 2: that official or the calendar. 31 00:01:34,785 --> 00:01:36,785 Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be I kind of like that it's its own. 32 00:01:36,625 --> 00:01:39,105 Speaker 1: Separated too, and which is in May? 33 00:01:39,305 --> 00:01:42,105 Speaker 3: Yes, Well, I mean we're not quite we're not quite 34 00:01:42,105 --> 00:01:43,225 Speaker 3: there yet, but we're getting there. 35 00:01:43,345 --> 00:01:45,505 Speaker 1: But let's unpack the four big guys. 36 00:01:45,545 --> 00:01:47,785 Speaker 2: So you are a pro at all of this, and 37 00:01:47,825 --> 00:01:50,585 Speaker 2: I'm going to try and picture with smitflow where I can. 38 00:01:50,785 --> 00:01:53,065 Speaker 2: Can we start with street style? So what did you 39 00:01:53,145 --> 00:01:56,785 Speaker 2: notice from looking at the imagery? What's trending? What did 40 00:01:56,825 --> 00:01:57,865 Speaker 2: you just think was cool? 41 00:01:58,145 --> 00:02:03,265 Speaker 3: There's one key overarching trend, which is about embracing maximalism. 42 00:02:03,465 --> 00:02:07,865 Speaker 3: After seasons of this kind of cookie cutter minimalism, it's 43 00:02:07,865 --> 00:02:10,665 Speaker 3: been like the rowification of fashion, if you know what 44 00:02:10,705 --> 00:02:12,865 Speaker 3: I mean. Brands are wanting to echo what the Olsen 45 00:02:12,945 --> 00:02:15,305 Speaker 3: Twins or the Olsen sisters have done with their label. 46 00:02:15,345 --> 00:02:15,665 Speaker 2: The Row. 47 00:02:15,745 --> 00:02:19,465 Speaker 3: So it's been these neutral layers, this kind of nondescript branding, 48 00:02:19,505 --> 00:02:22,105 Speaker 3: this if you know, you know, sort of level of luxury. 49 00:02:22,465 --> 00:02:25,385 Speaker 3: But now we're going to see the opposite come through. 50 00:02:25,465 --> 00:02:29,185 Speaker 3: So the headline I'm seeing from the street style is quiet, 51 00:02:29,225 --> 00:02:33,785 Speaker 3: luxury is over. There's this air of eccentricity coming through, 52 00:02:34,425 --> 00:02:37,825 Speaker 3: and I guess like dressing for your own gaze. So 53 00:02:38,345 --> 00:02:40,465 Speaker 3: I saw on Instagram reel the other day that said, 54 00:02:40,465 --> 00:02:42,745 Speaker 3: I'm going to paraphrase, cool girls are wearing outfits that 55 00:02:42,785 --> 00:02:45,865 Speaker 3: only make sense to them. I love that sentiment because 56 00:02:45,865 --> 00:02:48,185 Speaker 3: it's about following your own lead, and perhaps it's about 57 00:02:48,425 --> 00:02:52,345 Speaker 3: tapping into like a pastiche of different fashion forward styles 58 00:02:52,345 --> 00:02:54,465 Speaker 3: but sort of remixing them in a way that feels 59 00:02:54,465 --> 00:02:57,585 Speaker 3: comfortable and cool for you, your lifestyle and your aesthetic, rather 60 00:02:57,625 --> 00:03:01,105 Speaker 3: than what a TikTok or a magazine is stating. 61 00:03:01,185 --> 00:03:02,945 Speaker 1: Is that search? 62 00:03:03,785 --> 00:03:06,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of the stuff you can't really search, 63 00:03:06,505 --> 00:03:07,705 Speaker 2: isn't it correct? 64 00:03:07,745 --> 00:03:10,505 Speaker 3: It feels like it's innate to these women and men 65 00:03:10,545 --> 00:03:12,105 Speaker 3: in the way that they're dressing, but I'm sure that 66 00:03:12,145 --> 00:03:13,745 Speaker 3: it's more labored than that. Yeah. 67 00:03:13,785 --> 00:03:15,705 Speaker 2: Well, I was in Paris a few weeks ago during 68 00:03:15,745 --> 00:03:19,065 Speaker 2: fashion week, and I could not agree more. The traffic 69 00:03:19,145 --> 00:03:21,785 Speaker 2: in Paris is always horrific, but fashion week is even worse. 70 00:03:21,825 --> 00:03:24,225 Speaker 2: So you're crawling in an uber And the only reason 71 00:03:24,225 --> 00:03:25,745 Speaker 2: I like it is because of the people watching. 72 00:03:25,985 --> 00:03:27,865 Speaker 1: And you got to see it in real life. I 73 00:03:27,905 --> 00:03:28,665 Speaker 1: got to see it in real life. 74 00:03:28,705 --> 00:03:29,345 Speaker 3: Tell me all about it. 75 00:03:29,385 --> 00:03:31,705 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm not a really big celebrity person. 76 00:03:31,825 --> 00:03:33,545 Speaker 2: I don't really care for celebrities, but I just love 77 00:03:33,585 --> 00:03:37,825 Speaker 2: watching real women. And they were, you know, just exactly 78 00:03:37,825 --> 00:03:39,585 Speaker 2: what you said. It's like an outfit I never would 79 00:03:39,585 --> 00:03:41,465 Speaker 2: have thought of, and it looks like they didn't even 80 00:03:41,505 --> 00:03:43,825 Speaker 2: think it through. I'm assuming they did, but there was 81 00:03:43,865 --> 00:03:46,105 Speaker 2: no sort of fashion statements in that they were all, 82 00:03:46,345 --> 00:03:48,585 Speaker 2: you know, wearing statement in. 83 00:03:48,625 --> 00:03:49,785 Speaker 1: Red or this or that. 84 00:03:49,825 --> 00:03:52,025 Speaker 2: They just kind of put their cool outfits together. They 85 00:03:52,105 --> 00:03:54,665 Speaker 2: look effortless. They looked like they hadn't labored over them. 86 00:03:54,905 --> 00:03:55,985 Speaker 2: I'm assuming they did. 87 00:03:56,105 --> 00:03:59,305 Speaker 3: Do you think that is the Copenhagen effect, because I 88 00:03:59,385 --> 00:04:01,785 Speaker 3: feel like the way the Scandinavians are dressing. 89 00:04:01,905 --> 00:04:03,465 Speaker 1: Yes, but it wasn't as quirky as that. 90 00:04:03,545 --> 00:04:06,225 Speaker 2: It was still quite you know, there was some tailoring, 91 00:04:06,345 --> 00:04:10,145 Speaker 2: some neutrals. I mean, it was Paris freezing Okay, so 92 00:04:10,225 --> 00:04:12,265 Speaker 2: you know, they're still wearing winter. But it was sort 93 00:04:12,265 --> 00:04:15,745 Speaker 2: of boots with socks and heels with stockings and like 94 00:04:15,785 --> 00:04:18,225 Speaker 2: that kind of cool stuff. But it wasn't wacky colors 95 00:04:18,305 --> 00:04:21,745 Speaker 2: and really mismatched. It was just kind of oh, Like 96 00:04:21,785 --> 00:04:23,625 Speaker 2: I was like, I've never thought of that weight and 97 00:04:23,665 --> 00:04:26,345 Speaker 2: I had to really sort of dissect it to go, oh, yeah, 98 00:04:26,345 --> 00:04:28,625 Speaker 2: I've got similar things in my wardrobe and I'd never 99 00:04:28,665 --> 00:04:29,385 Speaker 2: put them together. 100 00:04:29,625 --> 00:04:30,185 Speaker 3: Yeah. 101 00:04:30,265 --> 00:04:32,145 Speaker 2: I just loved it, and I just think that, you know, 102 00:04:32,185 --> 00:04:35,385 Speaker 2: I was only on the ground in Paris Fashion Week timing. 103 00:04:35,465 --> 00:04:37,665 Speaker 2: I wasn't all over the world. Unfortunately. Maybe next year 104 00:04:37,705 --> 00:04:40,305 Speaker 2: we'll go together. But I just thought these women in 105 00:04:40,345 --> 00:04:44,465 Speaker 2: particular just looked great and very much like themselves, Like 106 00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:45,625 Speaker 2: no one looked the same. 107 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:47,345 Speaker 1: It was like everyone was wearing the same thing. 108 00:04:47,545 --> 00:04:49,905 Speaker 3: What's the lesson there for our wardrobes? Do you think 109 00:04:49,985 --> 00:04:51,185 Speaker 3: going into winter? Now? 110 00:04:51,385 --> 00:04:52,505 Speaker 1: I reckon it is. 111 00:04:52,905 --> 00:04:54,505 Speaker 2: I mean I was going to say search Pinterest, but 112 00:04:54,545 --> 00:04:55,985 Speaker 2: don't because you don't know what he's searching. I think 113 00:04:55,985 --> 00:04:57,785 Speaker 2: it's just going to your wardrobe, pull out all the 114 00:04:57,825 --> 00:05:00,625 Speaker 2: pieces that bring you joy and then try them on 115 00:05:00,705 --> 00:05:03,625 Speaker 2: together in different kind of combination. 116 00:05:04,025 --> 00:05:05,905 Speaker 3: Doing this I've been having a lot of fun with this. 117 00:05:05,985 --> 00:05:09,105 Speaker 3: Like I'll put a blazer with a wrap skirt, like 118 00:05:09,105 --> 00:05:11,425 Speaker 3: a stripe wrap skirt that feels like a summer piece, 119 00:05:11,465 --> 00:05:13,385 Speaker 3: but then the blazer's a winter layer, and then I've 120 00:05:13,385 --> 00:05:16,425 Speaker 3: got like a vintage graphic tea underneath, and then like 121 00:05:16,625 --> 00:05:18,545 Speaker 3: you know, I'm like a white heel or something or 122 00:05:18,585 --> 00:05:21,305 Speaker 3: a loafer and just it it feels like it shouldn't. 123 00:05:20,945 --> 00:05:22,745 Speaker 2: Wor yeah, it's kind of like the wrong shoe theory, 124 00:05:22,745 --> 00:05:24,185 Speaker 2: but with your outfit, and you don't want to make 125 00:05:24,225 --> 00:05:27,065 Speaker 2: it so wacky and too obviously, like you don't feel 126 00:05:27,105 --> 00:05:29,425 Speaker 2: comfortable because it doesn't work, but just like, oh, I 127 00:05:29,425 --> 00:05:31,225 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't wear that with that, but should I try 128 00:05:31,225 --> 00:05:33,985 Speaker 2: it on? Take a photo or you know, take a 129 00:05:33,985 --> 00:05:35,745 Speaker 2: look in the mirror, and then go, oh, yeah. 130 00:05:35,745 --> 00:05:37,225 Speaker 1: It's kind of unexpected. 131 00:05:37,345 --> 00:05:40,585 Speaker 3: Effortless but effortful, Yes, effort less but not too quirky. 132 00:05:40,705 --> 00:05:42,065 Speaker 1: What else did you spot? 133 00:05:42,185 --> 00:05:44,705 Speaker 3: I want to talk about power suiting because this is 134 00:05:44,745 --> 00:05:47,265 Speaker 3: another trend that we saw across the board. It's this 135 00:05:47,425 --> 00:05:51,425 Speaker 3: masculine tailoring across like matching oversized suit jackets and trousers, 136 00:05:51,465 --> 00:05:54,465 Speaker 3: and then also things like pinstripe or charcoal skirt suits. 137 00:05:54,705 --> 00:05:56,705 Speaker 1: This was a lot on the runways. 138 00:05:56,225 --> 00:05:58,265 Speaker 3: Yes it was, and it was reflected in the street 139 00:05:58,265 --> 00:06:03,625 Speaker 3: style very quite literally. Some attendees were embracing the necktie trend. Yeah, 140 00:06:03,945 --> 00:06:07,865 Speaker 3: that gives this real kind of eighties Wall Street financy vibe. 141 00:06:08,185 --> 00:06:10,705 Speaker 3: Thanks to the influence of sanlon Rol, which has been 142 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:13,305 Speaker 3: showing ties in its collection for a few seasons now, 143 00:06:13,345 --> 00:06:16,745 Speaker 3: and it's really started to infiltrate street style. I had 144 00:06:16,745 --> 00:06:20,265 Speaker 3: a friend who's a keynote speaker, and she messaged me 145 00:06:20,425 --> 00:06:23,385 Speaker 3: just to consult on Sometimes she consults me on fashion matters, 146 00:06:23,545 --> 00:06:25,825 Speaker 3: and she says, can I do a suit with a 147 00:06:25,865 --> 00:06:29,225 Speaker 3: tie on stage? And but I think that speaks to 148 00:06:29,265 --> 00:06:31,945 Speaker 3: how this trend is, Like it's everywhere and it looks 149 00:06:31,985 --> 00:06:34,345 Speaker 3: really cool, but it still feels fresh and maybe a 150 00:06:34,345 --> 00:06:36,465 Speaker 3: little bit scary. So I'm keen to know what are 151 00:06:36,465 --> 00:06:37,585 Speaker 3: your thoughts? Are you going to go there? 152 00:06:37,705 --> 00:06:40,265 Speaker 2: I love it because I think it is much easier 153 00:06:40,585 --> 00:06:42,025 Speaker 2: for me. Like a season or two ago, it was 154 00:06:42,025 --> 00:06:44,105 Speaker 2: the red stockings that everyone was doing it, and I 155 00:06:44,145 --> 00:06:44,705 Speaker 2: want to do that. 156 00:06:44,625 --> 00:06:44,985 Speaker 1: But I can't. 157 00:06:45,145 --> 00:06:47,425 Speaker 2: That was really hard. It ties, It's so easy. I've 158 00:06:47,465 --> 00:06:49,705 Speaker 2: got a lot of thin ties while thrifting. You can 159 00:06:49,705 --> 00:06:51,665 Speaker 2: get them really cheaply. I just don't think you want 160 00:06:51,665 --> 00:06:53,705 Speaker 2: that traditional sort of fat triangle one. You want it 161 00:06:53,705 --> 00:06:56,185 Speaker 2: to be a little bit not trumpy. No, not a 162 00:06:56,225 --> 00:06:58,225 Speaker 2: trump tie. You want a thin tie. My husband's got 163 00:06:58,225 --> 00:07:00,425 Speaker 2: plenty of them, which is great. When I was in Paris, 164 00:07:00,425 --> 00:07:02,585 Speaker 2: I was with an Australian makeup artist and she did 165 00:07:02,625 --> 00:07:06,265 Speaker 2: the shirt and the suit and the tie. Look, I 166 00:07:06,305 --> 00:07:08,345 Speaker 2: probably will do it. I find it harder with me 167 00:07:08,585 --> 00:07:10,705 Speaker 2: with a larger bust. I feel like you need to 168 00:07:10,705 --> 00:07:12,825 Speaker 2: have some sort of buttoned up here. 169 00:07:12,865 --> 00:07:14,785 Speaker 3: Because it sort of sits over. 170 00:07:15,025 --> 00:07:18,145 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I normally have things sort of undone. Yeah, 171 00:07:18,385 --> 00:07:20,385 Speaker 2: but give me a minute. I will work it out 172 00:07:20,705 --> 00:07:22,105 Speaker 2: because I think it looks so good and it can 173 00:07:22,225 --> 00:07:24,025 Speaker 2: look kind of loose and a bit ruffled. 174 00:07:23,665 --> 00:07:25,705 Speaker 3: And yeah, I like that more than the really buttoned 175 00:07:25,745 --> 00:07:28,025 Speaker 3: up vibe. To your point, because for me, I'm the same. 176 00:07:28,065 --> 00:07:30,665 Speaker 3: I like to have sort of an open neckline usually yeah, 177 00:07:30,705 --> 00:07:31,985 Speaker 3: like now I'm wearing a high neck tea. 178 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:36,465 Speaker 1: But different to her, like you know, yeah, lots of layers. 179 00:07:36,465 --> 00:07:38,585 Speaker 3: It's a lot going on up here, like in your 180 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:41,185 Speaker 3: top sort of half of your body. So it makes 181 00:07:41,185 --> 00:07:43,025 Speaker 3: me wonder do you have to commit to the full 182 00:07:43,065 --> 00:07:44,705 Speaker 3: suit and tie or is there a way to kind 183 00:07:44,705 --> 00:07:47,345 Speaker 3: of do a tie in a more accessible way? And 184 00:07:47,465 --> 00:07:48,505 Speaker 3: I would probably say. 185 00:07:48,345 --> 00:07:50,545 Speaker 2: No, I think you have to do with a blazer, 186 00:07:50,545 --> 00:07:51,585 Speaker 2: but like a wide leg jean. 187 00:07:52,145 --> 00:07:54,865 Speaker 3: Interesting, it's giving aver all a beat. Like I didn't 188 00:07:54,865 --> 00:07:55,785 Speaker 3: want to say it, but I. 189 00:07:55,785 --> 00:08:00,345 Speaker 2: Know, not like that, like a beige blazer, tucked in shirt, 190 00:08:00,465 --> 00:08:02,785 Speaker 2: like a really oversized kill Remark blazer and a really 191 00:08:02,785 --> 00:08:03,585 Speaker 2: cool wide leg pant. 192 00:08:03,705 --> 00:08:05,305 Speaker 1: Oh that sounds so that was everywhere. 193 00:08:05,305 --> 00:08:07,305 Speaker 3: Now you've put it in my Yeah, well you saw it. 194 00:08:07,505 --> 00:08:10,385 Speaker 1: You could do that. What about you? What did you see? 195 00:08:10,425 --> 00:08:13,945 Speaker 2: So lots of sort of things that I guess if 196 00:08:13,945 --> 00:08:15,825 Speaker 2: I didn't see them on such stylish ribbon, I would 197 00:08:15,865 --> 00:08:18,305 Speaker 2: think maybe quite mob wife. So lots of fake fur, 198 00:08:18,785 --> 00:08:20,785 Speaker 2: fake fur, cropped fake fur. I mean maybe there was 199 00:08:20,825 --> 00:08:23,545 Speaker 2: real for I didn't ask them. Let's just only endorse 200 00:08:23,705 --> 00:08:25,625 Speaker 2: fake obviously for obvious reasons. 201 00:08:26,025 --> 00:08:27,545 Speaker 1: And leopard print is still here. 202 00:08:27,865 --> 00:08:30,545 Speaker 2: So lots of leopard print shoes in sneakers, but mostly 203 00:08:30,585 --> 00:08:31,865 Speaker 2: in sort of kittenhel pumps. 204 00:08:32,225 --> 00:08:33,465 Speaker 1: Cute. Yeah, so a. 205 00:08:33,545 --> 00:08:35,705 Speaker 2: Fur and a leopard could be a bit mob wife, 206 00:08:35,705 --> 00:08:38,345 Speaker 2: but it's not. It's kind of really paired back and 207 00:08:38,545 --> 00:08:44,105 Speaker 2: paired with unusual things. That makes it less sort of femi, yeah, 208 00:08:44,105 --> 00:08:46,145 Speaker 2: and more of a staple, if that makes sense. 209 00:08:46,145 --> 00:08:48,505 Speaker 3: Well, they say Leopard is a neutral, right, and it. 210 00:08:48,465 --> 00:08:50,425 Speaker 2: Was in the store still everywhere. Yeah, and you know 211 00:08:50,465 --> 00:08:51,785 Speaker 2: that was all their spring summer drops. 212 00:08:51,825 --> 00:08:53,345 Speaker 3: So snake skin as well. 213 00:08:53,425 --> 00:08:56,345 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of any sort of animal print 214 00:08:56,665 --> 00:08:57,825 Speaker 2: is apparently a new neutral. 215 00:08:58,425 --> 00:09:01,425 Speaker 1: I'll see how I go with that. And long skirts, 216 00:09:01,425 --> 00:09:03,465 Speaker 1: which I'm so happy about because I love a long skirt. 217 00:09:03,505 --> 00:09:06,505 Speaker 2: You do love a METI love a long skirt. Their 218 00:09:06,545 --> 00:09:09,265 Speaker 2: MAXI is on me because I buy a Meati. But 219 00:09:09,265 --> 00:09:12,345 Speaker 2: I'm sure true lots of long pleated skirts. For the 220 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:13,905 Speaker 2: people I saw in Paris, it was kind of a 221 00:09:13,905 --> 00:09:18,625 Speaker 2: boot or a loafer. It's definitely more a line, more 222 00:09:18,665 --> 00:09:20,785 Speaker 2: actually a circle skirt, so there's a lot of volume. 223 00:09:20,865 --> 00:09:23,265 Speaker 2: It's not a pencil skirt or even sort of a 224 00:09:23,305 --> 00:09:24,025 Speaker 2: mermaid cut. 225 00:09:24,505 --> 00:09:26,145 Speaker 1: And then god for that. I know. 226 00:09:26,425 --> 00:09:29,185 Speaker 2: I've got so many satin slip skirts, but I still 227 00:09:29,225 --> 00:09:30,745 Speaker 2: can't walk in them, like, give me volume. 228 00:09:30,865 --> 00:09:32,585 Speaker 3: You know, I almost wore one today and I was like, 229 00:09:32,625 --> 00:09:33,945 Speaker 3: I'm not comfort No. 230 00:09:34,385 --> 00:09:35,985 Speaker 2: They look come for I've kind of few up the 231 00:09:35,985 --> 00:09:38,105 Speaker 2: back just to give my own cuts to my cheap 232 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:39,145 Speaker 2: and I was like, I want to be able to 233 00:09:39,145 --> 00:09:42,425 Speaker 2: walk and then on top a trench that hits the 234 00:09:42,425 --> 00:09:44,985 Speaker 2: same length as the skirt, so really long trenches and 235 00:09:45,025 --> 00:09:46,905 Speaker 2: a lot of leather or fake leather trenches. 236 00:09:47,185 --> 00:09:50,065 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I like that the interplay between the trench 237 00:09:50,065 --> 00:09:52,265 Speaker 3: and the skirt. This is a kick on from that 238 00:09:52,345 --> 00:09:56,865 Speaker 3: Bataga Venetta leather circle skirt in a few seasons ago. 239 00:09:57,105 --> 00:10:00,145 Speaker 2: They were everywhere piece bizarrez Ya mangoes. They're in every 240 00:10:00,185 --> 00:10:02,505 Speaker 2: single store in either real leather or fake leather, depending 241 00:10:02,545 --> 00:10:04,705 Speaker 2: on I guess your ethics and your budget, which is 242 00:10:04,785 --> 00:10:06,105 Speaker 2: good anything else. 243 00:10:06,425 --> 00:10:08,425 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm always just on the lookout for what 244 00:10:08,585 --> 00:10:12,105 Speaker 3: Christine Centenaria, the editor of Australian Vogue, is wearing. She's 245 00:10:12,185 --> 00:10:14,505 Speaker 3: like my personal style, like on any siding of her. 246 00:10:14,945 --> 00:10:17,105 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't physically see her in person, but 247 00:10:17,225 --> 00:10:21,425 Speaker 3: I just I love seeing her Australian take on high 248 00:10:21,465 --> 00:10:26,465 Speaker 3: fashion and her styling to me feels more wearable and approachable. 249 00:10:26,585 --> 00:10:29,065 Speaker 3: Although she's still wearing a Lyre and Balenciaga, but in 250 00:10:29,145 --> 00:10:32,145 Speaker 3: a way that's very her and her own brand or 251 00:10:32,225 --> 00:10:34,545 Speaker 3: her own brand wardrobe. NI see it correct but in 252 00:10:34,625 --> 00:10:37,545 Speaker 3: a sea of these kind of extravagant and more labored looks, 253 00:10:37,585 --> 00:10:40,225 Speaker 3: I feel like the ease of her styling is so refreshing. 254 00:10:40,745 --> 00:10:43,145 Speaker 3: So she had a gray power suit look. She had 255 00:10:43,225 --> 00:10:45,905 Speaker 3: this giant cream faux fur coat, but she wore it 256 00:10:45,945 --> 00:10:49,385 Speaker 3: with blue baggy jeans. She tends to have like one 257 00:10:49,465 --> 00:10:52,345 Speaker 3: fitted element in her outfits and then one more oversized 258 00:10:52,545 --> 00:10:56,025 Speaker 3: or voluminous or dramatic shape, and that's like the tension 259 00:10:56,225 --> 00:10:58,865 Speaker 3: in her outfits. So there's a lot we can from 260 00:10:58,905 --> 00:11:01,465 Speaker 3: that exactly. So in one look she had this tight, 261 00:11:01,625 --> 00:11:05,025 Speaker 3: long sleeve top with this voluminous leather pencil skirt. There 262 00:11:05,025 --> 00:11:06,825 Speaker 3: you go. And then in another she had like an 263 00:11:06,865 --> 00:11:10,745 Speaker 3: oversized denim shacket, which feels so terrible. So I'm sure 264 00:11:10,785 --> 00:11:13,425 Speaker 3: we've all got one of her brand. But then bare 265 00:11:13,545 --> 00:11:16,345 Speaker 3: legs and then these chunky Chloe clogs. So it was 266 00:11:16,385 --> 00:11:17,305 Speaker 3: bringing the volume on. 267 00:11:17,305 --> 00:11:36,225 Speaker 2: The bottom, dissecting what you've just said there, We've all 268 00:11:36,305 --> 00:11:38,025 Speaker 2: kind of got those pieces. Like I've got a lot 269 00:11:38,065 --> 00:11:40,065 Speaker 2: of oversized jackets and people have said, where did you 270 00:11:40,105 --> 00:11:42,625 Speaker 2: get them? I'm like, it's just a denim shirt or jacket, 271 00:11:42,665 --> 00:11:44,745 Speaker 2: and I just sized up a few sizes correct the 272 00:11:44,985 --> 00:11:48,105 Speaker 2: w you's got great ones. Target, Like I interviewed Eva 273 00:11:48,145 --> 00:11:51,305 Speaker 2: Gallambus from parlor X and her Spendy of course was 274 00:11:51,345 --> 00:11:54,145 Speaker 2: an a liar white East West bag and it was 275 00:11:54,225 --> 00:11:56,305 Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful and so it was kind of on my 276 00:11:56,425 --> 00:11:58,785 Speaker 2: radar and then I was like, they're everywhere. I had 277 00:11:58,825 --> 00:12:00,585 Speaker 2: something confirmed while I was there on the streets, is 278 00:12:00,665 --> 00:12:02,465 Speaker 2: that the East West bag is here and it's not 279 00:12:02,585 --> 00:12:05,025 Speaker 2: going anywhere else. It's kind of like a baggette bag. 280 00:12:05,425 --> 00:12:08,945 Speaker 2: It's long and skinny leather and then the handle's really long. 281 00:12:09,065 --> 00:12:12,585 Speaker 2: So it's design mind for European winters because all your 282 00:12:12,705 --> 00:12:14,505 Speaker 2: layers and it fits under your arm and it doesn't 283 00:12:14,505 --> 00:12:15,865 Speaker 2: slip off or it doesn't feel. 284 00:12:15,745 --> 00:12:18,745 Speaker 3: That Why it's designed that way that is, I thought 285 00:12:18,785 --> 00:12:20,625 Speaker 3: it was just like a design element. 286 00:12:20,905 --> 00:12:22,865 Speaker 2: It's so that your your big jump on your big 287 00:12:22,945 --> 00:12:24,865 Speaker 2: coat and then it still sits under your arm, so 288 00:12:24,945 --> 00:12:27,985 Speaker 2: it's classified as a shoulder bag. So it feels kind 289 00:12:27,985 --> 00:12:29,865 Speaker 2: of disproportionate when you look at it, but in a 290 00:12:29,945 --> 00:12:30,385 Speaker 2: cool way. 291 00:12:30,505 --> 00:12:31,905 Speaker 1: But it's a practical design. 292 00:12:32,025 --> 00:12:34,425 Speaker 3: It does look really directional, but still like something that 293 00:12:34,505 --> 00:12:36,465 Speaker 3: you could invest in and use for a long time. 294 00:12:36,545 --> 00:12:39,065 Speaker 2: Totally, and we're already seeing lots of sort of global 295 00:12:39,505 --> 00:12:41,305 Speaker 2: high street brands do them so you don't have to 296 00:12:41,345 --> 00:12:43,985 Speaker 2: buy a designer one. But they were just everything I 297 00:12:44,105 --> 00:12:45,865 Speaker 2: was lusting over on the lovely French women. 298 00:12:45,945 --> 00:12:50,745 Speaker 3: I'm seeing you buying one. I already in your future. 299 00:12:51,305 --> 00:12:52,905 Speaker 1: I tell you their high I mean, we've got great 300 00:12:52,945 --> 00:12:54,025 Speaker 1: high Street here, which is what. 301 00:12:54,305 --> 00:12:57,345 Speaker 3: It's at high Street? I'm like, is that London? 302 00:12:57,545 --> 00:12:57,785 Speaker 1: I don't? 303 00:12:57,945 --> 00:12:58,265 Speaker 2: It is? 304 00:12:58,385 --> 00:12:59,345 Speaker 1: And drug store too? 305 00:12:59,425 --> 00:13:02,345 Speaker 2: We do? But you know your Mango is youzar as 306 00:13:02,385 --> 00:13:05,545 Speaker 2: your H and M's. It's kind of everywhere inaccessible and 307 00:13:05,665 --> 00:13:09,345 Speaker 2: it's already there. So what do you think we will 308 00:13:09,945 --> 00:13:12,985 Speaker 2: adopt and how are we going to wear it? 309 00:13:13,185 --> 00:13:15,945 Speaker 3: Important question because as we know runway trends, it's not 310 00:13:16,105 --> 00:13:19,705 Speaker 3: necessarily about incorporating that into your daily style. 311 00:13:19,785 --> 00:13:22,305 Speaker 1: Not if it's just art to be observed and admired. 312 00:13:22,385 --> 00:13:26,945 Speaker 3: It's conceptual, and then it trickles down to something more approachable. Yes, absolutely, 313 00:13:27,025 --> 00:13:29,385 Speaker 3: but it starts with the high concept stuff and I'm 314 00:13:29,425 --> 00:13:31,745 Speaker 3: not going to go there necessarily. I've definitely looked at 315 00:13:31,785 --> 00:13:34,625 Speaker 3: this through the lens of would we wear it? Can 316 00:13:34,705 --> 00:13:35,305 Speaker 3: we wear a kit? 317 00:13:35,385 --> 00:13:37,225 Speaker 1: How would we will a style of it come to 318 00:13:37,345 --> 00:13:40,945 Speaker 1: the stores at affordable price? It by vibe. 319 00:13:41,145 --> 00:13:45,345 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So the first trend, who what where? 320 00:13:45,465 --> 00:13:48,545 Speaker 3: Called this trend cool girl romance. If you think about 321 00:13:48,585 --> 00:13:51,265 Speaker 3: the Chloe effect, the fact that the French house is 322 00:13:51,345 --> 00:13:54,625 Speaker 3: everywhere again, it's had this rejuvenation under a new creative 323 00:13:54,665 --> 00:13:57,305 Speaker 3: director and now everyone wants to be boho again. But 324 00:13:57,425 --> 00:13:59,625 Speaker 3: this is like the move on from that more. I'm 325 00:13:59,625 --> 00:14:02,225 Speaker 3: going to call it almost like a costume me Boho vibe. 326 00:14:02,465 --> 00:14:04,985 Speaker 3: It's not that anymore. If you're a millennial from a 327 00:14:05,025 --> 00:14:08,745 Speaker 3: Specia point in time, you remember Boho the first time. Yeah, 328 00:14:08,785 --> 00:14:11,145 Speaker 3: I'm not saying like seven tiasboo the first first time. 329 00:14:11,185 --> 00:14:13,705 Speaker 2: I mean the first time we referenced, agreed, and that's 330 00:14:13,745 --> 00:14:16,545 Speaker 2: what I think of and then don't really want to 331 00:14:16,545 --> 00:14:17,025 Speaker 2: go there again. 332 00:14:17,385 --> 00:14:18,625 Speaker 1: I didn't love it, but I've just done it. 333 00:14:18,745 --> 00:14:21,745 Speaker 3: You don't need like a faux fur vest and like French. 334 00:14:22,145 --> 00:14:25,585 Speaker 1: Yes, So this is the cool. 335 00:14:25,465 --> 00:14:29,185 Speaker 3: Girl move on. So it's feminine, ditzy florals. It's these 336 00:14:29,385 --> 00:14:32,865 Speaker 3: chic pastors, so not necessarily like the immediate pastels that 337 00:14:32,985 --> 00:14:36,185 Speaker 3: come to mind, like baby blue, baby pink, like they're there, 338 00:14:36,225 --> 00:14:37,945 Speaker 3: but it's more like a muted. 339 00:14:37,785 --> 00:14:40,985 Speaker 2: Version like sage. Yeah, they're kind of a dirty paste. 340 00:14:40,705 --> 00:14:44,105 Speaker 3: Dirty past I like that dirty pastels, lace and silk elements, 341 00:14:44,145 --> 00:14:46,745 Speaker 3: but worn in this contemporary way that feels really effortless. 342 00:14:47,105 --> 00:14:49,185 Speaker 3: And a key piece that came out for me time 343 00:14:49,225 --> 00:14:52,465 Speaker 3: and time again was the soft Maxi dress. So this 344 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:54,945 Speaker 3: is something that we saw. I mean, Zimmerman and Chloe 345 00:14:55,065 --> 00:14:56,425 Speaker 3: of course are going to come up with his styles 346 00:14:56,425 --> 00:14:59,945 Speaker 3: of dresses, but more surprisingly at brands like Valentino and 347 00:15:00,185 --> 00:15:03,905 Speaker 3: Louis Vuitton, even it was these long slip dresses almost 348 00:15:04,025 --> 00:15:07,065 Speaker 3: like neglige styles, but as evening where and I can 349 00:15:07,145 --> 00:15:10,025 Speaker 3: really see us wearing those for our climate, but layered 350 00:15:10,185 --> 00:15:12,905 Speaker 3: over with like a cardigan or a knit on top 351 00:15:13,465 --> 00:15:14,905 Speaker 3: and a flat shoe or a sneaker. 352 00:15:15,105 --> 00:15:17,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, and even in the warmer months, just with a 353 00:15:17,305 --> 00:15:20,145 Speaker 2: slide for a holiday, Like our climate is so made 354 00:15:20,185 --> 00:15:21,745 Speaker 2: out for that, but your cardigan. 355 00:15:22,345 --> 00:15:23,425 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was inspiring. 356 00:15:23,465 --> 00:15:25,385 Speaker 2: I did a lot of Maxi dresses with a nittin 357 00:15:25,465 --> 00:15:27,665 Speaker 2: winter because I just love the skirt and I'm like, well, 358 00:15:27,985 --> 00:15:28,985 Speaker 2: you can just be your skirt. 359 00:15:29,185 --> 00:15:31,585 Speaker 3: That's a very good look. I feel like I actually 360 00:15:31,785 --> 00:15:34,585 Speaker 3: have seen this in your content, Like in your styling content, 361 00:15:34,665 --> 00:15:36,425 Speaker 3: you always do the knit over there and you make 362 00:15:36,465 --> 00:15:37,425 Speaker 3: it into a skirt when it. 363 00:15:37,425 --> 00:15:39,225 Speaker 2: Was a dress, which I do that I think as 364 00:15:39,265 --> 00:15:42,865 Speaker 2: I'm endo and I just like flowiness. So it's just 365 00:15:43,065 --> 00:15:44,665 Speaker 2: like I just want to feel like I'm. 366 00:15:44,545 --> 00:15:45,105 Speaker 1: Wearing a night. 367 00:15:47,465 --> 00:15:47,665 Speaker 2: For it. 368 00:15:48,025 --> 00:15:49,025 Speaker 3: What about you any trends. 369 00:15:49,505 --> 00:15:52,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, so definitely the corporate look. I mean they're calling 370 00:15:52,345 --> 00:15:54,265 Speaker 2: it corporate, but it's anything. But it's not your kind 371 00:15:54,345 --> 00:15:56,745 Speaker 2: of cue from nineteen ninety eight that you wore to 372 00:15:56,905 --> 00:15:59,905 Speaker 2: the office. It's definitely very oversized, some really sort of 373 00:15:59,985 --> 00:16:04,185 Speaker 2: beautiful structured tailoring. So if you've still got your oversized 374 00:16:04,225 --> 00:16:06,745 Speaker 2: blazers for the last few seasons and wide leg pants, 375 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:09,185 Speaker 2: keep them out on the money. 376 00:16:09,225 --> 00:16:10,905 Speaker 3: I'm still wearing mine. I'm like, I'm not ready for 377 00:16:10,985 --> 00:16:11,705 Speaker 3: shrunken yet. 378 00:16:12,945 --> 00:16:13,625 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. 379 00:16:13,785 --> 00:16:16,145 Speaker 2: I just feel better when things are a bit oversized. 380 00:16:16,985 --> 00:16:19,705 Speaker 2: Belts are everywhere, so again that's kind of borrowing from 381 00:16:19,785 --> 00:16:23,905 Speaker 2: corporate originally, but skinny and thin, mostly cinched at the waist. 382 00:16:24,145 --> 00:16:26,025 Speaker 2: But then still you know, you could wear something down 383 00:16:26,265 --> 00:16:28,705 Speaker 2: on your hips if you liked, but never cull your belts. 384 00:16:28,745 --> 00:16:31,105 Speaker 2: They don't take up a lot of room and they 385 00:16:31,145 --> 00:16:33,265 Speaker 2: will always come back. It's basically just are they think, 386 00:16:33,305 --> 00:16:34,625 Speaker 2: are they thinn do they sit at the waist, so 387 00:16:34,665 --> 00:16:35,345 Speaker 2: they sit at the hip. 388 00:16:35,625 --> 00:16:37,745 Speaker 3: Keep them all oh so true. That's like that that 389 00:16:37,785 --> 00:16:39,865 Speaker 3: should be like the official guide to belts, because you're 390 00:16:39,905 --> 00:16:42,345 Speaker 3: so right. It's like it's out one year and then 391 00:16:42,425 --> 00:16:44,265 Speaker 3: two years later it's correct exactly. 392 00:16:44,385 --> 00:16:46,905 Speaker 2: And again tying into the sort of that corporate tailoring 393 00:16:47,025 --> 00:16:48,385 Speaker 2: vibe is the power shoulder. 394 00:16:48,505 --> 00:16:51,705 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of but not too eighties, 395 00:16:51,785 --> 00:16:53,625 Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I think it was very eighties. 396 00:16:53,705 --> 00:16:56,385 Speaker 2: You think the rest of it was paired with I 397 00:16:56,505 --> 00:17:00,385 Speaker 2: think there's a nod to eighties and obviously corporate, but 398 00:17:00,505 --> 00:17:02,945 Speaker 2: then it's kind of masculine mixed with feminine, and I 399 00:17:02,985 --> 00:17:05,825 Speaker 2: think as long as you don't have crazy, big clumpy 400 00:17:05,905 --> 00:17:07,785 Speaker 2: shoes on it, you look like you're wearing your dad's suits. 401 00:17:07,825 --> 00:17:09,545 Speaker 2: If you're kind of doing that with that skirt and 402 00:17:09,785 --> 00:17:10,625 Speaker 2: a beautiful kitten here. 403 00:17:11,065 --> 00:17:11,305 Speaker 1: Love. 404 00:17:11,825 --> 00:17:14,385 Speaker 3: That leads me actually to my next trend that came 405 00:17:14,465 --> 00:17:16,785 Speaker 3: through really strongly in outerwear, and it was with these 406 00:17:16,825 --> 00:17:20,865 Speaker 3: strong shoulders, the silhouette. It was these big shouldered coats 407 00:17:20,905 --> 00:17:22,865 Speaker 3: with drop waists, so to your point, it was a 408 00:17:22,945 --> 00:17:25,265 Speaker 3: lower waist in a lot of these coats and jackets, 409 00:17:25,665 --> 00:17:28,705 Speaker 3: and a real statement coat is the vibe that I'm seeing, 410 00:17:28,785 --> 00:17:33,425 Speaker 3: but it was in bright apple red, so it's a 411 00:17:33,545 --> 00:17:36,385 Speaker 3: color that isn't necessarily new, like that's been trending. I 412 00:17:36,385 --> 00:17:38,385 Speaker 3: think I wrote a piece from Mamameir about that color 413 00:17:38,505 --> 00:17:41,505 Speaker 3: like six months ago, but it's coming through an outerwear. 414 00:17:41,545 --> 00:17:44,545 Speaker 3: We've had this color more trending in like sportswear silhouettes 415 00:17:44,585 --> 00:17:47,625 Speaker 3: and then added us sambas and you know, little red caps. 416 00:17:47,665 --> 00:17:51,305 Speaker 3: But this is more like buying a statement outerwear piece, 417 00:17:51,345 --> 00:17:53,105 Speaker 3: which I thought was really cool. So we saw that 418 00:17:53,265 --> 00:17:57,545 Speaker 3: at Balenciaga, Isabelle Morant, Balmann, all the big heavy hitters 419 00:17:57,585 --> 00:17:59,105 Speaker 3: doing these big red jackets. 420 00:17:59,305 --> 00:18:02,905 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a statement. My favorite probably was what I'm 421 00:18:02,945 --> 00:18:04,705 Speaker 2: calling cool pumps. I don't know what we're going to 422 00:18:04,825 --> 00:18:07,105 Speaker 2: call them otherwise, but you think of a classic court 423 00:18:07,145 --> 00:18:09,305 Speaker 2: shoe a pump, but it's kind of had a cool 424 00:18:09,345 --> 00:18:11,945 Speaker 2: girl fashion makeover. So Camilla and Mark have done in 425 00:18:11,985 --> 00:18:14,225 Speaker 2: the last few seasons with the fur and the color, 426 00:18:15,025 --> 00:18:18,105 Speaker 2: and then I just saw so many in the stores 427 00:18:18,145 --> 00:18:20,305 Speaker 2: over in Paris on the runway on the people and 428 00:18:20,425 --> 00:18:22,185 Speaker 2: I was like, right, this is great. So it's kind 429 00:18:22,225 --> 00:18:25,945 Speaker 2: of like a higher up maybe I call it toe cleavage. 430 00:18:25,945 --> 00:18:27,185 Speaker 1: What do you call that area. I've got a pair 431 00:18:27,225 --> 00:18:27,665 Speaker 1: on today that. 432 00:18:27,665 --> 00:18:29,705 Speaker 3: I think that's correct. I've never thought about it a bit. 433 00:18:29,825 --> 00:18:32,545 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so then your foot looks almost more closed in, 434 00:18:32,705 --> 00:18:35,545 Speaker 2: but not in a grandmar Not that there's anything wrong 435 00:18:35,585 --> 00:18:36,825 Speaker 2: with grandmas, but you know what I mean, not in 436 00:18:36,945 --> 00:18:39,545 Speaker 2: like a shade a woman's court shoe. But they just 437 00:18:39,665 --> 00:18:41,425 Speaker 2: kind of look cooler. There might be a shape to 438 00:18:41,505 --> 00:18:42,945 Speaker 2: the heel, our eyes moved. 439 00:18:42,785 --> 00:18:45,105 Speaker 3: On from a traditional pump. Yeah, we don't really wear 440 00:18:45,185 --> 00:18:47,065 Speaker 3: those so much anymore, but you should get rid of them. 441 00:18:47,345 --> 00:18:49,305 Speaker 2: I've got a beautiful pair of black Jimmy shows that 442 00:18:49,345 --> 00:18:52,145 Speaker 2: I've had forever, and they've got low toe cleavage, and 443 00:18:52,185 --> 00:18:54,065 Speaker 2: I'll save those for a wedding or you know, a 444 00:18:54,145 --> 00:18:56,225 Speaker 2: really black tie event. But if we're doing a pump 445 00:18:56,305 --> 00:18:59,025 Speaker 2: with your jeans or you widely pants or your maxiskirt 446 00:18:59,105 --> 00:19:01,505 Speaker 2: for day to day or you know, dinner out or 447 00:19:01,625 --> 00:19:03,865 Speaker 2: lunch with friends, I think a cooler shape just makes 448 00:19:03,865 --> 00:19:04,705 Speaker 2: it look a bit more modern. 449 00:19:04,785 --> 00:19:06,025 Speaker 3: Freshens it up a bit, doesn't it. 450 00:19:06,225 --> 00:19:07,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I fell in love, so I found a 451 00:19:08,025 --> 00:19:09,585 Speaker 2: lot of those. I'm gonna save those for bougie, but 452 00:19:09,865 --> 00:19:12,505 Speaker 2: because I think it was a trend longcoming. 453 00:19:12,585 --> 00:19:14,465 Speaker 1: That kind of really peaked when I saw it. And 454 00:19:14,585 --> 00:19:16,225 Speaker 1: now the good thing is it's in the stores. 455 00:19:16,305 --> 00:19:18,945 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, we've hopped onto it quickly. Yeah we have Yeah, 456 00:19:19,905 --> 00:19:22,345 Speaker 3: one more from me. Yes, I've just got a headline 457 00:19:22,345 --> 00:19:27,265 Speaker 3: in my notes here. Shaggy fringing, fringing as well. Oh yes, 458 00:19:27,505 --> 00:19:31,265 Speaker 3: all elements of hair and texture texture. Oh yeah, and 459 00:19:31,385 --> 00:19:34,185 Speaker 3: we saw these sort of shaggy texture. I can't not 460 00:19:34,385 --> 00:19:40,665 Speaker 3: think shaggy textures across everything from coats to brass to shoes. 461 00:19:40,785 --> 00:19:42,825 Speaker 3: Like you said, so that's obviously the more. 462 00:19:42,785 --> 00:19:46,425 Speaker 1: Extreme and shealing or is it kind of like there 463 00:19:46,545 --> 00:19:49,585 Speaker 1: is shearing all? Is it like a rug? Yeah? 464 00:19:50,305 --> 00:19:52,425 Speaker 2: Yes, I did see a bit of that, but I thought, wow, 465 00:19:52,585 --> 00:19:54,785 Speaker 2: I mean it's hot here, like if you don't get 466 00:19:54,825 --> 00:19:56,385 Speaker 2: cold enough here, but it looks very cool. 467 00:19:56,505 --> 00:19:59,225 Speaker 3: It's like you can do a brushed suede or you 468 00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:01,945 Speaker 3: can do a shearling or a faux shealing, like I said, 469 00:20:02,025 --> 00:20:04,385 Speaker 3: a furry bag or shoe like that does feel a 470 00:20:04,425 --> 00:20:07,425 Speaker 3: bit more extreme, yes, but so many shows had them, 471 00:20:07,465 --> 00:20:09,585 Speaker 3: and I think the way that this will be interpret 472 00:20:09,785 --> 00:20:12,265 Speaker 3: into more wearable options for our wardrobes, it's like more 473 00:20:12,305 --> 00:20:14,985 Speaker 3: pared back, whether it's like a pony hair or like 474 00:20:15,105 --> 00:20:18,665 Speaker 3: we said, shielding textures across accessories. Will you be wearing 475 00:20:18,705 --> 00:20:20,865 Speaker 3: hairy shoes or like I'm calling it, like a fraggle bag. 476 00:20:21,145 --> 00:20:23,785 Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought about this because I love the look 477 00:20:23,825 --> 00:20:26,185 Speaker 2: of it, but I'm just too dirty. My shoes get dirty, 478 00:20:26,345 --> 00:20:29,425 Speaker 2: my bags get trashed, and I feel like they're the 479 00:20:29,505 --> 00:20:31,505 Speaker 2: kind of thing that you chuck on the car floor 480 00:20:31,705 --> 00:20:34,105 Speaker 2: and your shoes touch the ground. I just feel like furry. 481 00:20:34,345 --> 00:20:36,145 Speaker 2: I mean, I do have a pair of furry slides, 482 00:20:36,185 --> 00:20:37,145 Speaker 2: but they weren't expensive. 483 00:20:37,465 --> 00:20:39,265 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel fur and like bags and 484 00:20:39,465 --> 00:20:41,065 Speaker 1: they get so dirty you don't really launder that. 485 00:20:41,145 --> 00:20:43,105 Speaker 3: That's a good point, and at a lot of the 486 00:20:43,225 --> 00:20:46,865 Speaker 3: Runway shows, the fur was literally drag flo over on 487 00:20:46,945 --> 00:20:48,665 Speaker 3: the floor like a little creature, like a little hairy 488 00:20:48,705 --> 00:20:50,345 Speaker 3: mop creature cuddling along. 489 00:20:50,585 --> 00:20:52,785 Speaker 1: Practical. I agree, I would do anything. 490 00:20:52,785 --> 00:20:55,785 Speaker 2: I'd probably do like an affordable but cool furry coach 491 00:20:55,905 --> 00:20:58,025 Speaker 2: that I pull out occasionally because then I can put 492 00:20:58,025 --> 00:20:59,305 Speaker 2: it back and make sure it doesn't get trashed, it 493 00:20:59,305 --> 00:20:59,945 Speaker 2: doesn't go on the floor. 494 00:20:59,985 --> 00:21:01,905 Speaker 3: You stay tuned for bougie and but oh good, oh good. 495 00:21:02,065 --> 00:21:04,585 Speaker 2: Well, one more before we move on quickly is lace 496 00:21:04,745 --> 00:21:07,985 Speaker 2: was everywhere in these weeks, and thank god because it's 497 00:21:08,225 --> 00:21:10,305 Speaker 2: still everywhere here and it's all through wardrobe and I 498 00:21:10,385 --> 00:21:13,225 Speaker 2: love it. And I think going into autumn winter, you know, 499 00:21:13,425 --> 00:21:15,425 Speaker 2: you and I've both really got a lot of great 500 00:21:15,505 --> 00:21:18,305 Speaker 2: lace pieces. And I think with a knit with a cardigan, 501 00:21:18,465 --> 00:21:21,985 Speaker 2: with a blazer, with a trench, pants, skirts, tops, with jeans, 502 00:21:22,505 --> 00:21:25,505 Speaker 2: lacers here, just you know, layer whatever you want underneath 503 00:21:25,545 --> 00:21:27,185 Speaker 2: it to the level that you're comfortable with, whether it's 504 00:21:27,185 --> 00:21:29,945 Speaker 2: a bra or a tank or little shorties or whatever. 505 00:21:30,505 --> 00:21:33,585 Speaker 1: Add some corsetree as well. Oh I love that. Yeah, 506 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:33,985 Speaker 1: I saw some. 507 00:21:34,065 --> 00:21:36,105 Speaker 2: Corsetry as well. So again that's kind of mixing. I 508 00:21:36,145 --> 00:21:37,785 Speaker 2: guess if you did some corstry at top, you do 509 00:21:37,905 --> 00:21:41,385 Speaker 2: masculine the bottom like a wide lead jean tanks you yeah, pants, 510 00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:42,705 Speaker 2: I'm picking up what you're putting down. 511 00:22:01,545 --> 00:22:02,945 Speaker 1: It's very expensive. 512 00:22:03,465 --> 00:22:04,505 Speaker 3: How wondred these? 513 00:22:07,945 --> 00:22:08,145 Speaker 2: Are you? 514 00:22:08,225 --> 00:22:08,785 Speaker 1: Ready to do it? 515 00:22:09,025 --> 00:22:10,185 Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm ready to do it. 516 00:22:10,305 --> 00:22:12,745 Speaker 1: Okay. I have brought two pairs of what I'm calling 517 00:22:13,105 --> 00:22:14,025 Speaker 1: cool pumps. 518 00:22:14,385 --> 00:22:16,145 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. The label was sticking. 519 00:22:16,385 --> 00:22:17,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to call it. 520 00:22:18,065 --> 00:22:19,945 Speaker 2: And we don't really even call them pumps here, but 521 00:22:20,345 --> 00:22:21,865 Speaker 2: they're a bit of a court shoe, but they sound 522 00:22:21,945 --> 00:22:22,385 Speaker 2: so like. 523 00:22:22,545 --> 00:22:23,465 Speaker 3: Court shoe sounds. 524 00:22:23,825 --> 00:22:27,345 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't dated anyway. Last year I went to 525 00:22:27,425 --> 00:22:30,305 Speaker 2: the Studio Amelia sample sale. That's a beautiful brand that 526 00:22:30,385 --> 00:22:32,385 Speaker 2: makes shoes and bags and clothes, and I was lucky 527 00:22:32,465 --> 00:22:34,305 Speaker 2: enough to get two pairs at an affordable price. 528 00:22:34,465 --> 00:22:35,345 Speaker 3: Studio Amelia. 529 00:22:35,385 --> 00:22:37,425 Speaker 1: I have never heard, oh my gosh, you're gonna fall 530 00:22:37,465 --> 00:22:38,945 Speaker 1: in along. Now I have, but trust me, you only 531 00:22:38,985 --> 00:22:39,905 Speaker 1: want to go to a sample sale. 532 00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:42,905 Speaker 2: Okay, one of them sort of looks like it's white leather, 533 00:22:43,025 --> 00:22:45,345 Speaker 2: thatched woven leather, and then the other one's just a 534 00:22:45,425 --> 00:22:47,385 Speaker 2: nude and I've worn them so much, so I knew 535 00:22:47,385 --> 00:22:50,065 Speaker 2: this cut was for me, and I get so many comments, 536 00:22:50,105 --> 00:22:51,905 Speaker 2: so I have a bougie and a budget for us. 537 00:22:52,625 --> 00:22:55,345 Speaker 2: My bougie is from a brand called Hale and Jack's. 538 00:22:55,465 --> 00:22:57,665 Speaker 2: It's called the Lindsay and it is two hundred and 539 00:22:57,705 --> 00:22:59,585 Speaker 2: forty nine dollars. It comes in a bone, which I 540 00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:02,905 Speaker 2: absolutely love because I only do like colored shoes in 541 00:23:02,985 --> 00:23:07,305 Speaker 2: winter and the thing that you do, yeah, well, black 542 00:23:07,385 --> 00:23:09,225 Speaker 2: makes me depressed in winter. I mean, I've got a 543 00:23:09,265 --> 00:23:11,545 Speaker 2: few pairs of black loafers, but I mostly wear whites 544 00:23:11,585 --> 00:23:13,225 Speaker 2: and creams in my clothes. 545 00:23:13,025 --> 00:23:16,345 Speaker 3: And my shodice, and with denim and everything you might browns, 546 00:23:16,385 --> 00:23:17,225 Speaker 3: it makes a lot of sense. 547 00:23:17,305 --> 00:23:19,065 Speaker 2: I can't black ess, I think, because I've got black 548 00:23:19,105 --> 00:23:21,225 Speaker 2: hair as well. I just look like gumming the Mattrix 549 00:23:21,345 --> 00:23:24,105 Speaker 2: or something. They're come in a beautiful like deep red 550 00:23:24,185 --> 00:23:26,385 Speaker 2: merlow and a black, and they're kind of like a 551 00:23:26,505 --> 00:23:29,025 Speaker 2: high shine. They've got that very cool sort of angular 552 00:23:29,665 --> 00:23:32,865 Speaker 2: heel that all these shoes have and a higher Totally, bitch, 553 00:23:33,025 --> 00:23:35,385 Speaker 2: these are beautiful two hundred and forty nine ninety five, 554 00:23:35,505 --> 00:23:37,505 Speaker 2: But I have cheaper options for you if you'd like. 555 00:23:37,705 --> 00:23:37,985 Speaker 3: Please. 556 00:23:38,145 --> 00:23:40,785 Speaker 2: The ones I'm wearing today I bought from Tony Bianco recently. 557 00:23:41,225 --> 00:23:44,705 Speaker 2: They are the Trees Bordo Napa. They were originally two 558 00:23:44,745 --> 00:23:46,745 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty dollars, down to one hundred dollars with 559 00:23:46,905 --> 00:23:48,025 Speaker 2: an extra twenty percent off, so. 560 00:23:48,065 --> 00:23:50,065 Speaker 3: I got them for eighty dollars. I saw you lurking 561 00:23:50,105 --> 00:23:52,185 Speaker 3: the Tony Bianco sale and I was straight in that 562 00:23:52,385 --> 00:23:54,345 Speaker 3: and I was like, stop me, oh my god. 563 00:23:54,585 --> 00:23:56,785 Speaker 2: But there's not many sizes left. So let me tell 564 00:23:56,785 --> 00:23:59,265 Speaker 2: you another one that's very similar of theirs, but it's 565 00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:03,185 Speaker 2: a new style. It is the cherry very crinkle, and 566 00:24:03,305 --> 00:24:06,105 Speaker 2: it's exact same cart. It's just a crinkle and that's 567 00:24:06,105 --> 00:24:06,785 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars. 568 00:24:06,825 --> 00:24:09,145 Speaker 3: Cherry's very Crinkle sounds delicious. 569 00:24:08,785 --> 00:24:12,345 Speaker 2: Cherry very crinkle, and it also comes in black crinkle, 570 00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:18,345 Speaker 2: chocolate crinkle, yuppy liqure crinkle, and I'm guessing it would 571 00:24:18,345 --> 00:24:18,745 Speaker 2: be called. 572 00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:19,545 Speaker 3: It's like crinkly leather. 573 00:24:20,065 --> 00:24:22,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're great. So they're two hundred bucks. But yeah, 574 00:24:22,665 --> 00:24:24,625 Speaker 2: you're going to see a lot of that style everywhere. 575 00:24:25,985 --> 00:24:28,665 Speaker 3: So comfy really, so you're wearing them now and that's a. 576 00:24:29,025 --> 00:24:30,465 Speaker 2: This is like the fourth time I've worn them and 577 00:24:30,465 --> 00:24:32,705 Speaker 2: I got them a week ago. Okay, fab they're so comfy. 578 00:24:32,865 --> 00:24:33,705 Speaker 2: Look let me show them. 579 00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:35,465 Speaker 3: Oh she's taking heels. 580 00:24:36,705 --> 00:24:40,145 Speaker 2: The heels not high and this is the toe cleavage 581 00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:42,425 Speaker 2: area I'm talking about. And it's so you're not gripping 582 00:24:42,465 --> 00:24:44,665 Speaker 2: to hold yourself in because it's not like it's. 583 00:24:44,545 --> 00:24:46,825 Speaker 3: Too I see what you mean. It's like some Yeah, 584 00:24:46,825 --> 00:24:49,105 Speaker 3: because I have an old pair of peer hardy heels 585 00:24:49,145 --> 00:24:51,225 Speaker 3: that I wore a lot in my like old mag days, 586 00:24:51,425 --> 00:24:54,505 Speaker 3: black painted leather and they have low toe cleavage, and 587 00:24:54,625 --> 00:24:56,065 Speaker 3: I do you have to like pigeon. 588 00:24:56,145 --> 00:24:58,465 Speaker 1: It's like wearing thongs. Yeah, I could run in these. 589 00:24:58,985 --> 00:25:01,025 Speaker 3: Great to know. All right, challenge you on that later. 590 00:25:01,425 --> 00:25:02,745 Speaker 1: Tell me your Boushian budget. 591 00:25:02,945 --> 00:25:06,305 Speaker 3: We talked about the shaggy accessories we did. This trend 592 00:25:06,385 --> 00:25:08,985 Speaker 3: has already actually hit the shops here. So Alias May 593 00:25:09,985 --> 00:25:12,625 Speaker 3: shoe brand that many of us love already for their 594 00:25:12,705 --> 00:25:16,305 Speaker 3: chunky sandals. Their autumn winter range has lots of styles 595 00:25:16,345 --> 00:25:18,905 Speaker 3: coming through in fluffy textures. I had a little look 596 00:25:18,905 --> 00:25:20,665 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, there's one, this one, this one, 597 00:25:20,785 --> 00:25:23,785 Speaker 3: all different styles. So the Emmanuel is a pair that 598 00:25:23,865 --> 00:25:26,985 Speaker 3: I love. It's this black leather loafer with gold hardware 599 00:25:27,065 --> 00:25:30,625 Speaker 3: on top, but it's backless like a mule, and at 600 00:25:30,665 --> 00:25:33,625 Speaker 3: the back it has this fluffy caramel shearling. Just a 601 00:25:33,705 --> 00:25:35,305 Speaker 3: little a shit, sounds like there's a lot going on. 602 00:25:35,585 --> 00:25:36,145 Speaker 1: It sounds fun. 603 00:25:36,305 --> 00:25:38,585 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is kind of fun but chic at the 604 00:25:38,625 --> 00:25:40,985 Speaker 3: same time. It's kind of like there was a Gucci 605 00:25:41,105 --> 00:25:44,905 Speaker 3: shoe many years ago that all the girls had, and 606 00:25:45,065 --> 00:25:47,665 Speaker 3: you're thinking about that, but like an updated version not 607 00:25:47,745 --> 00:25:50,585 Speaker 3: as expensive. No, no, well, let me tell you. I 608 00:25:50,665 --> 00:25:53,425 Speaker 3: mean it's in my bougie But for me, Alias May's 609 00:25:53,665 --> 00:25:56,185 Speaker 3: quality is great. They're made to last. I've had some 610 00:25:56,265 --> 00:25:58,825 Speaker 3: of their slides for years and years Australian. Two they 611 00:25:58,825 --> 00:26:02,105 Speaker 3: are Australian. Yeah, so these are at two hundred and 612 00:26:02,145 --> 00:26:05,225 Speaker 3: twenty nine dollars ninety five. This is for me about 613 00:26:05,265 --> 00:26:07,305 Speaker 3: incorporating like a hint of fluff, but it's not the 614 00:26:07,345 --> 00:26:10,425 Speaker 3: whole shoe. However, they also have entire shoe that are fluffy, 615 00:26:10,505 --> 00:26:12,305 Speaker 3: but I'm just not quite ready for those yet. 616 00:26:12,865 --> 00:26:16,185 Speaker 2: Like interest in retail decision, isn't it, because it's like, 617 00:26:16,265 --> 00:26:17,825 Speaker 2: how many people are going to buy those? 618 00:26:17,865 --> 00:26:21,465 Speaker 1: That's I love to look at them. But as a brand, 619 00:26:22,305 --> 00:26:23,185 Speaker 1: will they sell? 620 00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:24,345 Speaker 3: I think they will. 621 00:26:24,785 --> 00:26:25,145 Speaker 2: I don't know. 622 00:26:25,465 --> 00:26:28,865 Speaker 3: Watch this space, we'll look for ourselves to save this 623 00:26:29,025 --> 00:26:31,665 Speaker 3: falled out. Dissect this further on the muma Mere website 624 00:26:31,705 --> 00:26:33,625 Speaker 3: and write it out. I think fluffy shoes are due 625 00:26:33,665 --> 00:26:37,665 Speaker 3: their moment. Let's talk about budgets. So, I don't know 626 00:26:37,705 --> 00:26:40,425 Speaker 3: if you've heard of a Swedish high street brand called 627 00:26:40,625 --> 00:26:43,305 Speaker 3: I think it's pronounced a naked but it's na dash 628 00:26:43,425 --> 00:26:44,545 Speaker 3: kd yes. 629 00:26:44,665 --> 00:26:46,705 Speaker 1: But I didn't ever know how to say it, just 630 00:26:47,225 --> 00:26:49,545 Speaker 1: like and I didn't know. So there you go, there 631 00:26:49,585 --> 00:26:49,785 Speaker 1: you go. 632 00:26:50,385 --> 00:26:53,305 Speaker 3: If you haven't heard of it, don't go there, don't scroll. 633 00:26:53,385 --> 00:26:53,945 Speaker 3: It's too good. 634 00:26:54,665 --> 00:26:57,425 Speaker 2: It's like you're going to say, like you googled naked 635 00:26:57,465 --> 00:27:01,585 Speaker 2: and the wrong stuff came up. You know what, Damn 636 00:27:01,745 --> 00:27:04,065 Speaker 2: that's tam. You and I have the same birthday and 637 00:27:04,145 --> 00:27:06,225 Speaker 2: so the same personality, so you know as soon as 638 00:27:06,305 --> 00:27:06,825 Speaker 2: you say. 639 00:27:06,705 --> 00:27:10,105 Speaker 3: That this brand is my new obsession, it's like if 640 00:27:10,145 --> 00:27:13,585 Speaker 3: everything was actually wearable. I was inspired to go on 641 00:27:13,705 --> 00:27:16,025 Speaker 3: there and look for textured out of wear. Do they 642 00:27:16,065 --> 00:27:18,745 Speaker 3: ship to Australia? They do, and it's free. What I 643 00:27:19,025 --> 00:27:22,545 Speaker 3: not have to go right now ruining my life if 644 00:27:22,625 --> 00:27:25,345 Speaker 3: you search for shearing or faux fur. They have so 645 00:27:25,505 --> 00:27:28,545 Speaker 3: many great options. I came across one option called the 646 00:27:28,665 --> 00:27:32,545 Speaker 3: collar detail bonded Jacket. It's a black faux leather cocoon 647 00:27:32,665 --> 00:27:35,185 Speaker 3: jacket with a waist tie. I've got that extra waist 648 00:27:35,425 --> 00:27:37,785 Speaker 3: that jacket. Yeah, it's so nice. It has this worn 649 00:27:37,985 --> 00:27:40,665 Speaker 3: kind of cream shearaling on the inner layer and then 650 00:27:40,665 --> 00:27:42,825 Speaker 3: it's also on the collar and the sleeves. It looks 651 00:27:43,105 --> 00:27:45,865 Speaker 3: expensive to me, but it's one hundred and seventy nine 652 00:27:45,945 --> 00:27:46,465 Speaker 3: ninety five. 653 00:27:46,585 --> 00:27:47,705 Speaker 1: They've got really good stuff. 654 00:27:47,865 --> 00:27:49,585 Speaker 3: Yeah, they really. This is why I'm warning you. 655 00:27:51,265 --> 00:27:53,705 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Don't forget 656 00:27:53,785 --> 00:27:55,785 Speaker 2: to sign up to the Nothing to Wear newsletter. 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