WEBVTT - Chrishell Stause, Kim Kardashian And A Controversial Plot Twist 0:00:11.464 --> 0:00:16.064 You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 0:00:16.144 --> 0:00:19.624 the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 0:00:19.704 --> 0:00:27.304 is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to this spill 0:00:27.384 --> 0:00:30.744 your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick, I'm m 0:00:30.864 --> 0:00:34.264 Vernon and today some news actually on two fronts. Hers 0:00:34.424 --> 0:00:37.304 upset people about some very prominent women who have been 0:00:37.344 --> 0:00:41.504 given some very prominent roles. We're talking Krishelle stous and 0:00:41.624 --> 0:00:45.504 Kim Kardashian. Hot off the heels of North drama. She's 0:00:45.504 --> 0:00:47.544 in some drama of her own. I might have to 0:00:47.544 --> 0:00:49.544 defend her, though I don't know how that keeps happening, 0:00:49.784 --> 0:00:50.224 of course. 0:00:50.344 --> 0:00:54.224 But first, but first, actors Daisy Edgar Jones and Paul 0:00:54.304 --> 0:00:58.304 Mescale have got us talking. You might know them from 0:00:58.304 --> 0:01:02.104 their roles in the limited series adaptation of Sally Rooney's 0:01:02.144 --> 0:01:06.664 novel Normal People. They played on again, off again love interest, 0:01:06.944 --> 0:01:08.984 and it was kind of the show that just threw 0:01:09.064 --> 0:01:12.144 them into a list of I'm going to say since 0:01:12.184 --> 0:01:15.744 that show, they've both been very vocal about how close 0:01:15.784 --> 0:01:18.664 a friends they are, and fans have been hardcore shipping 0:01:18.704 --> 0:01:21.184 them together from day one. They're kind of those two 0:01:21.224 --> 0:01:24.544 people who you just are so convinced to end up 0:01:24.584 --> 0:01:28.624 marrying each other and staying together forever. So recently, Daisy 0:01:28.704 --> 0:01:32.024 posted a selfie on her Instagram stories with Paul next 0:01:32.024 --> 0:01:34.704 to her, with Tex said said, we've got some news 0:01:34.704 --> 0:01:38.584 to share. Watch this space. Now they knew exactly what 0:01:38.624 --> 0:01:41.784 they were doing here. Since then, fans have been convinced 0:01:41.824 --> 0:01:44.344 that they're going to be starring in another rom com together. 0:01:44.864 --> 0:01:49.224 But I am slightly suspicious because I do remember, I 0:01:49.264 --> 0:01:51.984 want to say, a few months ago, Iowa Deerbrie, you 0:01:52.064 --> 0:01:54.184 might know her from The Bear, did the exact same thing. 0:01:54.224 --> 0:01:56.904 She posted a photo with Paul, and everyone thought they 0:01:56.904 --> 0:01:58.464 were going to be in a rom con together, and 0:01:58.544 --> 0:01:59.704 I still think they will be. 0:02:00.184 --> 0:02:02.264 Well, at first, I thought it definitely wasn't anything to 0:02:02.304 --> 0:02:04.184 do with acting, because the thing is they hang out 0:02:04.224 --> 0:02:06.864 a lot together. They're always at events together, and lately 0:02:06.904 --> 0:02:09.224 they've been at a lot of fashion shows together and 0:02:09.304 --> 0:02:11.944 both very much in that world. So when the photo 0:02:12.064 --> 0:02:14.304 was first posted, I was like, Oh, I think this 0:02:14.344 --> 0:02:15.824 is going to be more of a fashion collab or 0:02:15.824 --> 0:02:18.064 they're doing a campaign together, which would be such a 0:02:18.144 --> 0:02:22.384 letdown for their fans were so desperate for Normal People 0:02:22.464 --> 0:02:25.864 season two. But then the studio that made Normal People 0:02:26.104 --> 0:02:28.944 shared it where and that's got me thinking, like, are 0:02:28.944 --> 0:02:31.624 they involved in another project with them or are they 0:02:31.704 --> 0:02:33.664 just jumping on the fandom of like we made these 0:02:33.704 --> 0:02:35.944 people famous, so we're going to share this cute picture, 0:02:36.424 --> 0:02:39.064 viral picture that everyone's talking about. But I don't think 0:02:39.104 --> 0:02:41.904 it'd be Normal People too, because there's not a second book. 0:02:42.184 --> 0:02:44.144 It'd be hard to know if Sally Rooney would sign 0:02:44.184 --> 0:02:46.624 off on her idea being used in that way. It 0:02:46.664 --> 0:02:49.664 really did close a chapter. So if it is a project, 0:02:49.664 --> 0:02:51.904 I'd say they were working on like a completely different 0:02:51.944 --> 0:02:54.144 story or movie together. I bet you the news will 0:02:54.144 --> 0:02:55.704 get announced like while we're in the studio, and this 0:02:55.744 --> 0:02:57.744 will sound ridiculous, but that's all we know at this 0:02:57.784 --> 0:02:58.344 point in time. 0:02:58.504 --> 0:03:00.584 I just know they've been paid a lot of money 0:03:00.624 --> 0:03:01.744 to post effort. 0:03:01.984 --> 0:03:04.744 Well exactly, but also they are I'm not being completely naive. 0:03:04.744 --> 0:03:06.544 I know there's money behind the scenes, but they do 0:03:06.584 --> 0:03:08.384 spend a lot of time together. They are, you know, 0:03:08.464 --> 0:03:10.704 friends in real life. I don't think they're dating. No, 0:03:11.024 --> 0:03:15.984 they're not dating Ian and she was as a boyfriend for 0:03:15.984 --> 0:03:17.944 a long time. I do not know if they're still together, 0:03:18.104 --> 0:03:20.544 but you know, had like a normy boyfriend for a 0:03:20.544 --> 0:03:21.224 really long time. 0:03:21.424 --> 0:03:23.624 Yeah, they're the biggest culpridge of the soft launch. 0:03:23.824 --> 0:03:25.824 Well well, you know, as I said, we'll probably get 0:03:25.864 --> 0:03:29.104 the news today, so this will be riveting. Station will 0:03:29.144 --> 0:03:31.864 be void. But if it is an All People season two, 0:03:31.904 --> 0:03:33.464 look I'll still watch it, but I hope it's not. 0:03:35.944 --> 0:03:38.824 So we have some very exciting and I haven't said 0:03:38.824 --> 0:03:42.984 this a long time Neighbors news this morning. Do you 0:03:43.064 --> 0:03:44.824 remember that Neighbors is still on the air. 0:03:45.384 --> 0:03:49.304 I mean, I think as a country, well collectively forgot 0:03:49.304 --> 0:03:52.264 about the time where we had that last the last 0:03:52.264 --> 0:03:53.504 Neighbors episode forever. 0:03:53.744 --> 0:03:56.624 It's just a slightly awkward thing in Australian TV history 0:03:56.624 --> 0:03:59.584 that we all are just pretending never happened. Happened because 0:03:59.624 --> 0:04:03.824 it finished up on Channel ten after decades on air, 0:04:03.904 --> 0:04:07.064 and it was a really emotional thing. I remember the 0:04:07.064 --> 0:04:10.264 build up to it was so intense. Channel seven cent 0:04:10.424 --> 0:04:13.184 me a Ramsey Street sign. I remember you getting that. 0:04:13.384 --> 0:04:15.144 I know I really liked it. Someone threw it out 0:04:15.144 --> 0:04:16.664 in the office they said it was clutter, and I'm like, 0:04:16.704 --> 0:04:19.064 how dare you? It was a piece of history. And 0:04:19.104 --> 0:04:22.184 then we watched the finale, and it was really moving. 0:04:22.264 --> 0:04:24.784 We had all these really famous people who had been 0:04:24.784 --> 0:04:27.264 on Neighbors and started their careers coming back to with 0:04:27.384 --> 0:04:30.784 Kylie Mino, Guy Peers, the performance of a lifetime. I'm 0:04:30.824 --> 0:04:33.424 just gonna say, we had all these different people. No, 0:04:33.544 --> 0:04:35.144 he took it really seriously. I know. 0:04:35.304 --> 0:04:37.304 I'm just never been a Neighbors fan, so I actually hat. 0:04:37.664 --> 0:04:39.864 I mean, I wasn't alive when that stage was on. 0:04:40.024 --> 0:04:41.824 I'm young too, but I'm just saying I knew it 0:04:41.824 --> 0:04:42.704 was a big part of history. 0:04:42.904 --> 0:04:45.704 My favorite thing to do when I watched the quote 0:04:45.784 --> 0:04:49.424 unquote last episode was try to guess who were like 0:04:49.464 --> 0:04:50.824 the returning characters. 0:04:51.224 --> 0:04:58.104 It was just by the way they entered rooms. Yeah, No, 0:04:58.144 --> 0:04:59.464 I got to be tiary watching it. And then you 0:04:59.464 --> 0:05:01.384 had all the call ins like Margo, Robbie called in, 0:05:01.904 --> 0:05:04.344 Nalie and bruli Are Holly Valance that was a big deal. 0:05:04.384 --> 0:05:07.064 Don't see that billionaire lady anymore. And it came to 0:05:07.064 --> 0:05:09.984 an end, everyone was like slow clat Neighbors, well done. 0:05:10.384 --> 0:05:12.544 And then everyone loved it so much and it got 0:05:12.584 --> 0:05:15.624 such big ratings that it came back with late actors 0:05:15.744 --> 0:05:17.824 and we were like, oh, okay, bye, see you again, 0:05:18.144 --> 0:05:20.584 so it's been chugging along. We should say that it 0:05:20.704 --> 0:05:23.784 has recently been nominated for an Emmy Award for the 0:05:23.784 --> 0:05:29.064 first time in the Daytime Emmy nomination Outstanding Drama Series. 0:05:29.104 --> 0:05:30.784 I think now because of the different network it's on, 0:05:30.824 --> 0:05:32.784 it's now eligible. But that's the big thing for it 0:05:32.824 --> 0:05:36.064 to be getting a Emmy nomination, which is probably why 0:05:36.104 --> 0:05:38.304 it has drawn another big guest star, and that is 0:05:38.384 --> 0:05:42.184 Krishelle from Selling Sunset. But also she has done some 0:05:42.384 --> 0:05:44.304 soap opera acting before, so you know this is not 0:05:44.344 --> 0:05:47.024 her first radio on All My Children and Days of 0:05:47.024 --> 0:05:49.424 Our Lives and she'll be joining Neighbors as a guest star. 0:05:49.504 --> 0:05:51.464 And here's how they describe her character. Have you read 0:05:51.504 --> 0:05:53.144 this or I have not. 0:05:53.264 --> 0:05:53.784 I need to know. 0:05:54.064 --> 0:05:56.704 So her name is Yasmin Shields. 0:05:56.864 --> 0:05:57.704 Okay cool? 0:05:58.024 --> 0:05:59.624 Yeahs, yes, Shields, yes. 0:05:59.464 --> 0:06:01.584 For sure, Yes, like my conscioceptor pill. 0:06:02.784 --> 0:06:04.784 Okay, Well, I wonder if she knows that. When I 0:06:04.784 --> 0:06:06.224 first saw it written down, I'm like, it is her name, 0:06:06.304 --> 0:06:09.904 Like yeah, you say that, Like they're really taking this 0:06:09.944 --> 0:06:12.384 too far, but I think it's Yes. She's a glamorous 0:06:12.424 --> 0:06:14.464 and successful business woman. I think she'll be able to 0:06:14.464 --> 0:06:16.744 play that very well. Not much of a stretch. Who 0:06:16.784 --> 0:06:19.304 is in town for an exciting new opportunity. That's all 0:06:19.304 --> 0:06:20.584 we know about her. We don't know she's going to 0:06:20.584 --> 0:06:22.904 be a villain a love interest. She said she was 0:06:22.984 --> 0:06:24.744 very happy to be in the show and it's got 0:06:24.784 --> 0:06:28.104 people talking about Neighbors again. This hasn't happened since Misha Button. 0:06:28.784 --> 0:06:31.384 For Misha Button, she pops into different franchises to kind 0:06:31.384 --> 0:06:34.104 of give them a little boost when needed. Was on Neighbors, 0:06:34.104 --> 0:06:35.944 but since then they haven't had a lot of stunt casting. 0:06:36.064 --> 0:06:39.224 I wonder what the opportunity could be that Ramsey Street 0:06:39.264 --> 0:06:40.824 offers her that no one else has. 0:06:41.064 --> 0:06:43.184 Well, I guess now like she and g Flipp are 0:06:43.224 --> 0:06:45.344 together and people are obsessed with them, and people love 0:06:45.424 --> 0:06:48.784 Kroshell after selling sunsets so and they come to Australia 0:06:48.824 --> 0:06:50.304 are a lot, so I guess there's like a really 0:06:50.304 --> 0:06:53.544 good tie. The opportunity is chief well as if you 0:06:53.544 --> 0:06:56.464 wouldn't come to Australia to be close. They're very cute 0:06:56.504 --> 0:07:00.104 together and also Neighbors has a big international following as well. 0:07:00.144 --> 0:07:01.824 I mean, not enough to save it from getting canceled 0:07:01.824 --> 0:07:04.504 the first time around, but it's a pretty iconic role. 0:07:04.544 --> 0:07:05.664 For everyone knows neighbors. 0:07:05.744 --> 0:07:08.584 Do you know how Krishell got her name? I don't. 0:07:08.944 --> 0:07:12.744 I love to know this. I feel like this is 0:07:12.784 --> 0:07:15.424 the most important fact. Is everything else. 0:07:15.464 --> 0:07:17.464 I feel like it might be somewhere tucked in the 0:07:17.464 --> 0:07:19.264 back of my head. And I'm pretty sure you're the 0:07:19.304 --> 0:07:20.264 person who told me so. 0:07:20.304 --> 0:07:23.904 Her real name is Tarina Krishelle Stous, but she goes 0:07:23.944 --> 0:07:28.024 by Krischelle, of course, because that is a really exciting 0:07:28.104 --> 0:07:29.784 name when you're trying to make it in the big 0:07:29.824 --> 0:07:31.984 smoke of LA. Is that the whole story? I don't know. 0:07:34.984 --> 0:07:37.744 I'm saying. Chrischelle is her middle name. It but her 0:07:37.784 --> 0:07:40.304 mother was at a Shell service station when she was 0:07:40.344 --> 0:07:43.544 heavily pregnant with her and she went into labor at 0:07:43.584 --> 0:07:46.424 the Shell service station, and that's where Chrischelle was born. 0:07:46.824 --> 0:07:49.224 And a man named Chris I think he worked at 0:07:49.224 --> 0:07:51.864 the Shell service station or he was a patron. Either way, 0:07:51.904 --> 0:07:55.304 Chris was on hand and delivered her. And so Chris 0:07:55.304 --> 0:07:58.304 and Shelle have been mushed together from the Shell service 0:07:58.344 --> 0:08:01.984 station where she was born to Chris, the unfortunate young 0:08:01.984 --> 0:08:03.944 man who was just on hand to pull her into 0:08:03.944 --> 0:08:06.664 the world. And that is her middle name. Krischelle and 0:08:06.664 --> 0:08:07.624 now she goes by that. 0:08:08.264 --> 0:08:13.144 God, this story, this is insane, but really that's insane. 0:08:13.224 --> 0:08:15.704 And I love how this man Chris is forever tied 0:08:15.704 --> 0:08:17.384 to Shell Yeah Station. 0:08:18.264 --> 0:08:20.544 I think she should be the face of Shell service station. 0:08:20.664 --> 0:08:22.824 She shure she would make bank on that, and she's 0:08:22.944 --> 0:08:24.784 very happily tells that story. And she was like, yeah, 0:08:24.824 --> 0:08:26.624 it's my middle name, but I go buy it as 0:08:26.624 --> 0:08:28.464 my first name. I've made it my you know, into 0:08:28.584 --> 0:08:29.504 my home tire brand. 0:08:29.704 --> 0:08:33.064 Sure she's reading some benefits from Shell Service Station. 0:08:33.184 --> 0:08:35.344 Yeah, no, I think they're probably not involved in that, 0:08:35.424 --> 0:08:36.984 but you don't get in touch. And if Chris is 0:08:36.984 --> 0:08:39.384 out there, good job man, delivering a baby. And then 0:08:39.384 --> 0:08:41.824 she turned out to be famous. That's a good day. Well. 0:08:41.864 --> 0:08:46.184 Coming up next, another woman in Hollywood who's also kind 0:08:46.184 --> 0:08:48.704 of getting a big break with a big show. We 0:08:48.744 --> 0:08:52.424 are talking about Kim Kardashian's Actor on Actor Interview with 0:08:52.584 --> 0:08:55.744 varietya Nana So. 0:08:55.704 --> 0:08:59.344 Variety's Actors on Actors Lineup has been released for this year. 0:08:59.384 --> 0:09:01.864 This is the twentieth season that this interview series has 0:09:01.864 --> 0:09:02.344 been running. 0:09:02.424 --> 0:09:04.064 Like, oh, I didn't realize it was going for that long. 0:09:04.144 --> 0:09:06.664 Yeah, exactly. It's become a huge deal too, because what 0:09:06.664 --> 0:09:08.544 it does is it takes people who are going to 0:09:08.584 --> 0:09:12.184 be the front runners inwards season, or they're attached to big, 0:09:12.184 --> 0:09:15.064 buzzy projects that are releasing around this time, and it 0:09:15.184 --> 0:09:18.064 pairs people who Sometimes there have been co stars that 0:09:18.064 --> 0:09:19.824 have worked together for a little long time and they 0:09:19.864 --> 0:09:22.584 have this really intense friendship and they just sit down 0:09:22.624 --> 0:09:24.704 just the two of them and have a very intense 0:09:24.744 --> 0:09:27.904 conversation about acting in their careers and the business. Or 0:09:27.944 --> 0:09:31.584 sometimes they just pair different people who have nothing in 0:09:31.584 --> 0:09:33.464 common but both in the industry, and then you end 0:09:33.544 --> 0:09:37.704 up having these really interesting conversations between two actors who 0:09:37.744 --> 0:09:40.144 would normally never sit in a room together. So I'm 0:09:40.144 --> 0:09:41.944 a bit of a nerd, and I'm always really excited 0:09:41.984 --> 0:09:44.624 to see the lineup and get excited about which sessions 0:09:44.664 --> 0:09:47.104 I'm going to watch. And so the lineup has been 0:09:47.184 --> 0:09:49.384 released for this year and there's a lot of interesting ones. 0:09:49.904 --> 0:09:52.424 One I thought was quite interesting was Lea Woddell, who 0:09:52.504 --> 0:09:55.664 is in White Lotus but has also recently started One Day. 0:09:56.064 --> 0:09:59.264 And Nicholas Gallotzin from well they say here Mary and George, 0:09:59.264 --> 0:10:02.344 but everyone obviously knows him mostly from Red White and 0:10:02.464 --> 0:10:05.624 Rayal Blue and the Idea of You. Yeah, And when 0:10:05.664 --> 0:10:08.064 I was looking at Lea Whdell and Nicholas Scaletzine in 0:10:08.184 --> 0:10:10.584 their photo to promote it, I was like, this is 0:10:10.624 --> 0:10:11.984 the first time I've realized this. But they are the 0:10:12.024 --> 0:10:12.624 same person. 0:10:12.744 --> 0:10:13.264 They're both. 0:10:15.984 --> 0:10:16.384 So true. 0:10:16.744 --> 0:10:20.264 That's true, and they both play very like boy toy rods. 0:10:20.384 --> 0:10:22.464 Yeah, they do. I think they're going to talk about that, 0:10:22.504 --> 0:10:26.424 which I'm excited about. Also, quinter Bronson, who absolutely love 0:10:27.504 --> 0:10:30.384 Love from Abbot Elementary, is teaming up with Jennifer Aniston 0:10:30.584 --> 0:10:34.824 and from The Morning Show obviously other stuff. That's what 0:10:34.864 --> 0:10:39.304 she's there, A really good dynamic together. 0:10:39.864 --> 0:10:42.664 Amazing and I know Quintera Brunton will be so excited. 0:10:42.864 --> 0:10:45.544 Yeah, I'd love that for her, like little fangirl moment. 0:10:45.904 --> 0:10:49.024 Also bre Larson and Andrew Scott teaming up. Love that 0:10:49.824 --> 0:10:51.744 one that I think, Yeah, that's one of those kind 0:10:51.784 --> 0:10:54.704 of different conversations where they have both been in the 0:10:54.744 --> 0:10:58.744 industry for a really long time together. No, so that'll 0:10:58.744 --> 0:11:01.224 be super interesting. And we just love Andrew Scott. He 0:11:01.304 --> 0:11:02.984 hates you for calling him hot priest. He's in the 0:11:03.024 --> 0:11:05.624 new show Ripley, which is a remake of the talented 0:11:05.664 --> 0:11:06.584 mister Ripley. 0:11:06.384 --> 0:11:07.984 Do you are a hot press with it? 0:11:08.064 --> 0:11:08.864 You'll be okay. 0:11:09.064 --> 0:11:10.144 But then there was one. 0:11:10.064 --> 0:11:13.424 Pair on there that people are very, very angry about, 0:11:14.184 --> 0:11:17.784 and that is the fact that Academy Award nominee, critically 0:11:17.824 --> 0:11:23.944 acclaimed actress, fashion icon Chloe Sevini obsessed, ultimate cool girl, 0:11:24.024 --> 0:11:27.064 ultimate girl forever and always and one of my favorite actresses. 0:11:27.144 --> 0:11:28.944 When I discovered her in my late teens, I think 0:11:28.984 --> 0:11:31.904 I just binged every movie she'd ever made, and I 0:11:31.984 --> 0:11:34.584 continue to just like be across because she was in 0:11:34.584 --> 0:11:37.344 Like Kids. That was her first big breakout role and 0:11:37.384 --> 0:11:39.824 that is still kind of a life changing movie. And 0:11:39.864 --> 0:11:41.904 then Boys Don't Cry, that was what she got nominated 0:11:41.944 --> 0:11:44.104 for for an oscar. And then she's also in that 0:11:44.144 --> 0:11:45.904 TV show Big Love. Did you ever watch that? 0:11:45.944 --> 0:11:48.224 I didn't watch it, but I've seen a lot. 0:11:48.104 --> 0:11:51.504 Of You've watched the whole show on clip and she's 0:11:51.584 --> 0:11:54.024 incredible on that. That went for many seasons. And she 0:11:54.144 --> 0:11:57.344 was also in American's Horror Story, and at the moment, 0:11:57.424 --> 0:12:00.744 she's in another Ryan Murphy series, Few Kapodi Versus the 0:12:00.744 --> 0:12:03.064 Swans that we've talked about, and she's excellent in that. 0:12:03.704 --> 0:12:07.184 And so she has been paired with Kim Kardashian. I 0:12:07.224 --> 0:12:11.784 am very upset about that. Oh you're one of those people, even. 0:12:10.904 --> 0:12:13.224 One of those people. I know I'm gonna get hate 0:12:13.224 --> 0:12:16.584 for saying this, but I always saw the variety actor 0:12:16.664 --> 0:12:20.944 on actor with actors who have been in the industry 0:12:20.984 --> 0:12:23.464 for a really long time, or haven't been in the 0:12:23.504 --> 0:12:25.784 industry for a long time, but have had a real 0:12:26.024 --> 0:12:29.624 long background of acting and have really well versed and 0:12:29.824 --> 0:12:33.584 educated in their career journey and in the industry in general. 0:12:34.304 --> 0:12:36.504 And I don't know how to say this without sounding 0:12:36.584 --> 0:12:37.184 so mean. 0:12:37.304 --> 0:12:38.584 This is a safe space. We know you know what 0:12:38.584 --> 0:12:40.104 I mean. Mean, just say you say what you need 0:12:40.144 --> 0:12:40.464 to say. 0:12:40.744 --> 0:12:42.744 The first thing that popped into my head when I 0:12:42.784 --> 0:12:45.264 saw that Kim Kardashian was going to do Actor on Actors, 0:12:45.304 --> 0:12:47.584 I was like, Oh, it's cheapening the show. 0:12:48.624 --> 0:12:50.624 Look that's fair. I think that is fair. 0:12:50.744 --> 0:12:53.264 I know that she has been like in acting roles, 0:12:53.304 --> 0:12:57.224 but I think this has opened a doorway for people 0:12:57.344 --> 0:13:00.664 who are influencers who want to try acting, to be 0:13:00.824 --> 0:13:04.104 on the show, Like I just want to see my 0:13:04.264 --> 0:13:06.224 A listers, Like this is the only show that I 0:13:06.304 --> 0:13:07.544 don't want to see modernized. 0:13:08.104 --> 0:13:11.784 Look I understand that, and on paper, it seems almost fair. 0:13:11.824 --> 0:13:15.624 They're there. Obviously, she doesn't have the extensive list of 0:13:15.704 --> 0:13:17.984 hits that Chloe seven Ye has, who's been in the 0:13:18.104 --> 0:13:20.944 industry for decades. But they're both there as the two 0:13:21.064 --> 0:13:24.824 leads of Ryan Murphy's shows. So obviously Chloe's on Feud 0:13:25.104 --> 0:13:28.624 and Kim Kardashian was pretty much the co lead with 0:13:28.704 --> 0:13:32.104 Emma Roberts on the recent season of American Horror Story Delicate, 0:13:32.184 --> 0:13:34.384 so they're there for that. A lot of people also 0:13:34.424 --> 0:13:37.464 like Chloe must be so upset, she'd be fuming, and 0:13:37.544 --> 0:13:39.584 to that, I'd say, like, she would have to agree 0:13:39.624 --> 0:13:41.824 to this before going into it, So it's not like 0:13:41.864 --> 0:13:43.744 she walked into the room beforehand and was like, oh, 0:13:44.024 --> 0:13:46.144 Kim Kardashian's here, like she would have agreed to it. 0:13:46.384 --> 0:13:48.464 So because she has to do her research well exactly, 0:13:48.544 --> 0:13:50.304 and they have to prep it's been pre filmed, so 0:13:50.304 --> 0:13:52.344 it's not like she came out today and she's surprised. 0:13:52.424 --> 0:13:57.264 I'm very interested to hear the kind of questions Kim 0:13:57.344 --> 0:13:58.344 is gonna ask Chloe. 0:13:58.424 --> 0:14:00.544 Isn't that the thing? Though, as much as I was like. 0:14:00.584 --> 0:14:02.424 I know, I want to be proved wrong, Like I 0:14:02.464 --> 0:14:04.104 do want to genuinely be proved wrong. 0:14:04.224 --> 0:14:06.464 You saying that it's the one you're most interested to watch, 0:14:06.544 --> 0:14:08.544 and for me now it kind of is not just 0:14:08.584 --> 0:14:11.184 because I'm a massive Chloe seven year fan, but it's 0:14:11.224 --> 0:14:13.824 the one now that has this kind of interesting risk 0:14:13.904 --> 0:14:16.344 factor of what's going to happen, And now it's the 0:14:16.344 --> 0:14:18.424 one I want to watch the most too, which is 0:14:18.504 --> 0:14:21.584 exactly what this series is about. It's getting eyeballs on 0:14:21.624 --> 0:14:23.944 this series and getting people to talk about it, and 0:14:24.024 --> 0:14:26.424 so in that, like Kim Kardashian gets used for that 0:14:26.464 --> 0:14:28.464 a lot. You know, She's brought into things so that 0:14:28.464 --> 0:14:30.784 people will talk about them, but that is what she's 0:14:30.784 --> 0:14:31.864 built her brand off. 0:14:32.384 --> 0:14:34.464 And so I think Chloe has a really hard job. 0:14:34.704 --> 0:14:37.584 Well yeah, I mean she's been in entertainment for decades, 0:14:37.624 --> 0:14:39.944 but at the same time, this is the first time 0:14:39.984 --> 0:14:43.184 she's had a lead acting role. And it's interesting because 0:14:43.264 --> 0:14:45.064 when it was first announced that she was going to 0:14:45.104 --> 0:14:47.704 be on American Horror Story, I was furious. I was 0:14:47.744 --> 0:14:50.224 like you were this morning because I love that show 0:14:50.344 --> 0:14:52.584 so much and I loved Chloe on it, and I 0:14:52.704 --> 0:14:54.224 was sad that she wasn't going to be in this season, 0:14:54.784 --> 0:14:57.464 and I was just like, it's going to be so distracting, 0:14:57.504 --> 0:14:59.624 because that's such a world building show, you know, with 0:14:59.744 --> 0:15:02.424 like the kind of horror and magical sci fi, all 0:15:02.424 --> 0:15:05.984 those things elements. They always have this incredible cars like 0:15:06.064 --> 0:15:09.344 that cast of American Horror Story is usually stacked with 0:15:09.384 --> 0:15:12.624 like Oscar winners, amy when as critically acclaimed stage performers, like, 0:15:12.664 --> 0:15:14.384 it's not just like a throwaway thing. It's a really 0:15:14.464 --> 0:15:17.384 good cast. And I thought Kim being in there was 0:15:17.424 --> 0:15:21.144 going to be just distracting and gimmicky. Like Ryan Murphy 0:15:21.264 --> 0:15:23.424 is good at casting for gimmicks, but it's usually just 0:15:23.464 --> 0:15:26.464 like a smaller part or a one episode. In that case, 0:15:26.504 --> 0:15:28.344 I think it really works. But she had a big 0:15:28.384 --> 0:15:31.224 part to play in every episode, and as I watched her, 0:15:31.264 --> 0:15:33.704 I was like, oh, my god, what's wrong with me? 0:15:33.904 --> 0:15:38.064 She's actually fine. Yeah, she was fine until she had 0:15:38.064 --> 0:15:41.144 a scene opposite Leslie Grossman, who is an incredible actress 0:15:41.184 --> 0:15:43.904 who is on American Horror Story a lot, and they 0:15:43.944 --> 0:15:46.784 had a scene together and I was like, Oh, she's 0:15:46.904 --> 0:15:49.544 just not good because Leslie Grossman, in like a few 0:15:49.784 --> 0:15:52.184 lines just blew her out of the water. And the 0:15:52.224 --> 0:15:54.504 reason it was so obvious is that if Kim hadn't 0:15:54.624 --> 0:15:58.064 played the part of Shivn, this like high profile publicist 0:15:58.144 --> 0:16:00.544 with all these biting kind of comebacks, it would have 0:16:00.584 --> 0:16:02.744 been Leslie because that's often the role she takes on 0:16:02.824 --> 0:16:05.744 in this franchise. So seeing them together, I'm just like, oh, 0:16:05.784 --> 0:16:07.984 once you see her against a strong actress like that, 0:16:08.104 --> 0:16:10.224 you can see how green she is and just how 0:16:10.384 --> 0:16:12.624 it's not her thing. But I mean she did Okay. 0:16:12.784 --> 0:16:15.664 I think it's really interesting that you said that because 0:16:15.664 --> 0:16:18.504 I remember the same kind of commentary happened around when 0:16:18.904 --> 0:16:21.904 Ryan Murphy casted Lady Gaga. Yeah, an American heart not 0:16:21.944 --> 0:16:24.424 to this level, definitely, but I think Lady Gaga just 0:16:24.504 --> 0:16:27.104 proved everyone wrong because she ended up being brilliant. 0:16:27.184 --> 0:16:28.024 Yeah exactly. 0:16:28.224 --> 0:16:30.384 But yeah, I think with these roles that you can't 0:16:30.384 --> 0:16:32.344 just be fine, you have to be really good. 0:16:32.384 --> 0:16:34.144 But I think that, yeah, it's hard to bet, like 0:16:34.184 --> 0:16:35.744 she is there as an actress because she was the 0:16:35.824 --> 0:16:38.424 leader of a TV show and she has now started 0:16:38.504 --> 0:16:41.504 like producing movies and getting scripts made movies that she 0:16:41.624 --> 0:16:43.544 is going to star and like she is going to 0:16:43.584 --> 0:16:47.024 be an actress. That's her next big thing that's happening. 0:16:47.104 --> 0:16:49.144 Well, I did say, I'm happy to be proven wrong, 0:16:49.144 --> 0:16:51.064 and I hope she does because we're going to be seeing. 0:16:50.864 --> 0:16:53.864 More of her good. One other little bit of information 0:16:53.984 --> 0:16:55.944 just as we finish off that I think people have missed, 0:16:56.024 --> 0:16:58.344 is that John Hamm has also been announced as part 0:16:58.384 --> 0:17:00.944 of the variety Actors on Actors and hear and Kim 0:17:01.024 --> 0:17:04.184 Kardashian have a long standing feud over the fact that 0:17:04.224 --> 0:17:07.024 he thinks she's stupid, and I think out of everyone, 0:17:07.104 --> 0:17:10.304 he's probably the most angry because back in twenty twelve, 0:17:10.584 --> 0:17:12.464 he gave an interview to l and he said, whether 0:17:12.504 --> 0:17:16.584 it's Paris Hilton or Kim Kadashian, whoever, stupidity is certainly celebrated, 0:17:17.024 --> 0:17:18.984 and then he said Kim's name again. He said, being 0:17:18.984 --> 0:17:22.344 a fucking idiot is a valuable commodity in this culture 0:17:22.424 --> 0:17:25.904 because you're rewarded significantly, and him really not nice the 0:17:25.944 --> 0:17:29.184 statement saying calling someone who runs their own businesses is 0:17:29.224 --> 0:17:32.184 part of a successful TV show, produces rights, designs, and 0:17:32.224 --> 0:17:35.624 creates stupid in my opinion, is careless. Then she knows. 0:17:35.704 --> 0:17:38.664 I respect John ham and I'm a firm believer that 0:17:38.784 --> 0:17:41.424 everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that no 0:17:41.504 --> 0:17:43.744 one takes the same path in life. We're all working 0:17:43.784 --> 0:17:46.664 hard and we all have to respect one another. Really 0:17:46.824 --> 0:17:49.424 fast forward many years later, and now they're both the 0:17:49.464 --> 0:17:54.784 headliners of this It's crazy that he just did that unprovoked. 0:17:55.064 --> 0:17:56.624 I wonder if there's like a variety shoot and I 0:17:56.664 --> 0:17:58.144 have just stand next to each other and he's like, hey, 0:17:58.504 --> 0:18:00.824 I called you domb. But now we're both being celebrated 0:18:00.864 --> 0:18:06.944 as like the biggest actors of the moment. He's still 0:18:06.944 --> 0:18:10.064 a wife, but maybe not. After this announcement. We'll link 0:18:10.064 --> 0:18:11.904 the four list of actors on actors in our show 0:18:11.904 --> 0:18:13.024 notes so you can have a look. 0:18:13.384 --> 0:18:15.424