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Speaker 1: your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick, I'm m
Speaker 1: Vernon and today some news actually on two fronts. Hers
Speaker 1: upset people about some very prominent women who have been
Speaker 1: given some very prominent roles. We're talking Krishelle stous and
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. Hot off the heels of North drama. She's
Speaker 1: in some drama of her own. I might have to
Speaker 1: defend her, though I don't know how that keeps happening,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 2: But first, but first, actors Daisy Edgar Jones and Paul
Speaker 2: Mescale have got us talking. You might know them from
Speaker 2: their roles in the limited series adaptation of Sally Rooney's
Speaker 2: novel Normal People. They played on again, off again love interest,
Speaker 2: and it was kind of the show that just threw
Speaker 2: them into a list of I'm going to say since
Speaker 2: that show, they've both been very vocal about how close
Speaker 2: a friends they are, and fans have been hardcore shipping
Speaker 2: them together from day one. They're kind of those two
Speaker 2: people who you just are so convinced to end up
Speaker 2: marrying each other and staying together forever. So recently, Daisy
Speaker 2: posted a selfie on her Instagram stories with Paul next
Speaker 2: to her, with Tex said said, we've got some news
Speaker 2: to share. Watch this space. Now they knew exactly what
Speaker 2: they were doing here. Since then, fans have been convinced
Speaker 2: that they're going to be starring in another rom com together.
Speaker 2: But I am slightly suspicious because I do remember, I
Speaker 2: want to say, a few months ago, Iowa Deerbrie, you
Speaker 2: might know her from The Bear, did the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: She posted a photo with Paul, and everyone thought they
Speaker 2: were going to be in a rom con together, and
Speaker 2: I still think they will be.
Speaker 1: Well, at first, I thought it definitely wasn't anything to
Speaker 1: do with acting, because the thing is they hang out
Speaker 1: a lot together. They're always at events together, and lately
Speaker 1: they've been at a lot of fashion shows together and
Speaker 1: both very much in that world. So when the photo
Speaker 1: was first posted, I was like, Oh, I think this
Speaker 1: is going to be more of a fashion collab or
Speaker 1: they're doing a campaign together, which would be such a
Speaker 1: letdown for their fans were so desperate for Normal People
Speaker 1: season two. But then the studio that made Normal People
Speaker 1: shared it where and that's got me thinking, like, are
Speaker 1: they involved in another project with them or are they
Speaker 1: just jumping on the fandom of like we made these
Speaker 1: people famous, so we're going to share this cute picture,
Speaker 1: viral picture that everyone's talking about. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it'd be Normal People too, because there's not a second book.
Speaker 1: It'd be hard to know if Sally Rooney would sign
Speaker 1: off on her idea being used in that way. It
Speaker 1: really did close a chapter. So if it is a project,
Speaker 1: I'd say they were working on like a completely different
Speaker 1: story or movie together. I bet you the news will
Speaker 1: get announced like while we're in the studio, and this
Speaker 1: will sound ridiculous, but that's all we know at this
Speaker 1: point in time.
Speaker 2: I just know they've been paid a lot of money
Speaker 2: to post effort.
Speaker 1: Well exactly, but also they are I'm not being completely naive.
Speaker 1: I know there's money behind the scenes, but they do
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time together. They are, you know,
Speaker 1: friends in real life. I don't think they're dating. No,
Speaker 1: they're not dating Ian and she was as a boyfriend for
Speaker 1: a long time. I do not know if they're still together,
Speaker 1: but you know, had like a normy boyfriend for a
Speaker 1: really long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the biggest culpridge of the soft launch.
Speaker 1: Well well, you know, as I said, we'll probably get
Speaker 1: the news today, so this will be riveting. Station will
Speaker 1: be void. But if it is an All People season two,
Speaker 1: look I'll still watch it, but I hope it's not.
Speaker 1: So we have some very exciting and I haven't said
Speaker 1: this a long time Neighbors news this morning. Do you
Speaker 1: remember that Neighbors is still on the air.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think as a country, well collectively forgot
Speaker 2: about the time where we had that last the last
Speaker 2: Neighbors episode forever.
Speaker 1: It's just a slightly awkward thing in Australian TV history
Speaker 1: that we all are just pretending never happened. Happened because
Speaker 1: it finished up on Channel ten after decades on air,
Speaker 1: and it was a really emotional thing. I remember the
Speaker 1: build up to it was so intense. Channel seven cent
Speaker 1: me a Ramsey Street sign. I remember you getting that.
Speaker 1: I know I really liked it. Someone threw it out
Speaker 1: in the office they said it was clutter, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: how dare you? It was a piece of history. And
Speaker 1: then we watched the finale, and it was really moving.
Speaker 1: We had all these really famous people who had been
Speaker 1: on Neighbors and started their careers coming back to with
Speaker 1: Kylie Mino, Guy Peers, the performance of a lifetime. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say, we had all these different people. No,
Speaker 1: he took it really seriously. I know.
Speaker 2: I'm just never been a Neighbors fan, so I actually hat.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't alive when that stage was on.
Speaker 1: I'm young too, but I'm just saying I knew it
Speaker 1: was a big part of history.
Speaker 2: My favorite thing to do when I watched the quote
Speaker 2: unquote last episode was try to guess who were like
Speaker 2: the returning characters.
Speaker 1: It was just by the way they entered rooms. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I got to be tiary watching it. And then you
Speaker 1: had all the call ins like Margo, Robbie called in,
Speaker 1: Nalie and bruli Are Holly Valance that was a big deal.
Speaker 1: Don't see that billionaire lady anymore. And it came to
Speaker 1: an end, everyone was like slow clat Neighbors, well done.
Speaker 1: And then everyone loved it so much and it got
Speaker 1: such big ratings that it came back with late actors
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, okay, bye, see you again,
Speaker 1: so it's been chugging along. We should say that it
Speaker 1: has recently been nominated for an Emmy Award for the
Speaker 1: first time in the Daytime Emmy nomination Outstanding Drama Series.
Speaker 1: I think now because of the different network it's on,
Speaker 1: it's now eligible. But that's the big thing for it
Speaker 1: to be getting a Emmy nomination, which is probably why
Speaker 1: it has drawn another big guest star, and that is
Speaker 1: Krishelle from Selling Sunset. But also she has done some
Speaker 1: soap opera acting before, so you know this is not
Speaker 1: her first radio on All My Children and Days of
Speaker 1: Our Lives and she'll be joining Neighbors as a guest star.
Speaker 1: And here's how they describe her character. Have you read
Speaker 1: this or I have not.
Speaker 2: I need to know.
Speaker 1: So her name is Yasmin Shields.
Speaker 2: Okay cool?
Speaker 1: Yeahs, yes, Shields, yes.
Speaker 2: For sure, Yes, like my conscioceptor pill.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I wonder if she knows that. When I
Speaker 1: first saw it written down, I'm like, it is her name,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you say that, Like they're really taking this
Speaker 1: too far, but I think it's Yes. She's a glamorous
Speaker 1: and successful business woman. I think she'll be able to
Speaker 1: play that very well. Not much of a stretch. Who
Speaker 1: is in town for an exciting new opportunity. That's all
Speaker 1: we know about her. We don't know she's going to
Speaker 1: be a villain a love interest. She said she was
Speaker 1: very happy to be in the show and it's got
Speaker 1: people talking about Neighbors again. This hasn't happened since Misha Button.
Speaker 1: For Misha Button, she pops into different franchises to kind
Speaker 1: of give them a little boost when needed. Was on Neighbors,
Speaker 1: but since then they haven't had a lot of stunt casting.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the opportunity could be that Ramsey Street
Speaker 2: offers her that no one else has.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess now like she and g Flipp are
Speaker 1: together and people are obsessed with them, and people love
Speaker 1: Kroshell after selling sunsets so and they come to Australia
Speaker 1: are a lot, so I guess there's like a really
Speaker 1: good tie. The opportunity is chief well as if you
Speaker 1: wouldn't come to Australia to be close. They're very cute
Speaker 1: together and also Neighbors has a big international following as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, not enough to save it from getting canceled
Speaker 1: the first time around, but it's a pretty iconic role.
Speaker 2: For everyone knows neighbors.
Speaker 1: Do you know how Krishell got her name? I don't.
Speaker 1: I love to know this. I feel like this is
Speaker 1: the most important fact. Is everything else.
Speaker 2: I feel like it might be somewhere tucked in the
Speaker 2: back of my head. And I'm pretty sure you're the
Speaker 2: person who told me so.
Speaker 1: Her real name is Tarina Krishelle Stous, but she goes
Speaker 1: by Krischelle, of course, because that is a really exciting
Speaker 1: name when you're trying to make it in the big
Speaker 1: smoke of LA. Is that the whole story? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Chrischelle is her middle name. It but her
Speaker 1: mother was at a Shell service station when she was
Speaker 1: heavily pregnant with her and she went into labor at
Speaker 1: the Shell service station, and that's where Chrischelle was born.
Speaker 1: And a man named Chris I think he worked at
Speaker 1: the Shell service station or he was a patron. Either way,
Speaker 1: Chris was on hand and delivered her. And so Chris
Speaker 1: and Shelle have been mushed together from the Shell service
Speaker 1: station where she was born to Chris, the unfortunate young
Speaker 1: man who was just on hand to pull her into
Speaker 1: the world. And that is her middle name. Krischelle and
Speaker 1: now she goes by that.
Speaker 2: God, this story, this is insane, but really that's insane.
Speaker 2: And I love how this man Chris is forever tied
Speaker 2: to Shell Yeah Station.
Speaker 1: I think she should be the face of Shell service station.
Speaker 1: She shure she would make bank on that, and she's
Speaker 1: very happily tells that story. And she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's my middle name, but I go buy it as
Speaker 1: my first name. I've made it my you know, into
Speaker 1: my home tire brand.
Speaker 2: Sure she's reading some benefits from Shell Service Station.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think they're probably not involved in that,
Speaker 1: but you don't get in touch. And if Chris is
Speaker 1: out there, good job man, delivering a baby. And then
Speaker 1: she turned out to be famous. That's a good day. Well.
Speaker 2: Coming up next, another woman in Hollywood who's also kind
Speaker 2: of getting a big break with a big show. We
Speaker 2: are talking about Kim Kardashian's Actor on Actor Interview with
Speaker 2: varietya Nana So.
Speaker 1: Variety's Actors on Actors Lineup has been released for this year.
Speaker 1: This is the twentieth season that this interview series has
Speaker 1: been running.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I didn't realize it was going for that long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's become a huge deal too, because what
Speaker 1: it does is it takes people who are going to
Speaker 1: be the front runners inwards season, or they're attached to big,
Speaker 1: buzzy projects that are releasing around this time, and it
Speaker 1: pairs people who Sometimes there have been co stars that
Speaker 1: have worked together for a little long time and they
Speaker 1: have this really intense friendship and they just sit down
Speaker 1: just the two of them and have a very intense
Speaker 1: conversation about acting in their careers and the business. Or
Speaker 1: sometimes they just pair different people who have nothing in
Speaker 1: common but both in the industry, and then you end
Speaker 1: up having these really interesting conversations between two actors who
Speaker 1: would normally never sit in a room together. So I'm
Speaker 1: a bit of a nerd, and I'm always really excited
Speaker 1: to see the lineup and get excited about which sessions
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch. And so the lineup has been
Speaker 1: released for this year and there's a lot of interesting ones.
Speaker 1: One I thought was quite interesting was Lea Woddell, who
Speaker 1: is in White Lotus but has also recently started One Day.
Speaker 1: And Nicholas Gallotzin from well they say here Mary and George,
Speaker 1: but everyone obviously knows him mostly from Red White and
Speaker 1: Rayal Blue and the Idea of You. Yeah, And when
Speaker 1: I was looking at Lea Whdell and Nicholas Scaletzine in
Speaker 1: their photo to promote it, I was like, this is
Speaker 1: the first time I've realized this. But they are the
Speaker 1: same person.
Speaker 2: They're both.
Speaker 1: So true.
Speaker 2: That's true, and they both play very like boy toy rods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. I think they're going to talk about that,
Speaker 1: which I'm excited about. Also, quinter Bronson, who absolutely love
Speaker 1: Love from Abbot Elementary, is teaming up with Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 1: and from The Morning Show obviously other stuff. That's what
Speaker 1: she's there, A really good dynamic together.
Speaker 2: Amazing and I know Quintera Brunton will be so excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love that for her, like little fangirl moment.
Speaker 1: Also bre Larson and Andrew Scott teaming up. Love that
Speaker 1: one that I think, Yeah, that's one of those kind
Speaker 1: of different conversations where they have both been in the
Speaker 1: industry for a really long time together. No, so that'll
Speaker 1: be super interesting. And we just love Andrew Scott. He
Speaker 1: hates you for calling him hot priest. He's in the
Speaker 1: new show Ripley, which is a remake of the talented
Speaker 1: mister Ripley.
Speaker 2: Do you are a hot press with it?
Speaker 1: You'll be okay.
Speaker 2: But then there was one.
Speaker 1: Pair on there that people are very, very angry about,
Speaker 1: and that is the fact that Academy Award nominee, critically
Speaker 1: acclaimed actress, fashion icon Chloe Sevini obsessed, ultimate cool girl,
Speaker 1: ultimate girl forever and always and one of my favorite actresses.
Speaker 1: When I discovered her in my late teens, I think
Speaker 1: I just binged every movie she'd ever made, and I
Speaker 1: continue to just like be across because she was in
Speaker 1: Like Kids. That was her first big breakout role and
Speaker 1: that is still kind of a life changing movie. And
Speaker 1: then Boys Don't Cry, that was what she got nominated
Speaker 1: for for an oscar. And then she's also in that
Speaker 1: TV show Big Love. Did you ever watch that?
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, but I've seen a lot.
Speaker 1: Of You've watched the whole show on clip and she's
Speaker 1: incredible on that. That went for many seasons. And she
Speaker 1: was also in American's Horror Story, and at the moment,
Speaker 1: she's in another Ryan Murphy series, Few Kapodi Versus the
Speaker 1: Swans that we've talked about, and she's excellent in that.
Speaker 1: And so she has been paired with Kim Kardashian. I
Speaker 1: am very upset about that. Oh you're one of those people, even.
Speaker 2: One of those people. I know I'm gonna get hate
Speaker 2: for saying this, but I always saw the variety actor
Speaker 2: on actor with actors who have been in the industry
Speaker 2: for a really long time, or haven't been in the
Speaker 2: industry for a long time, but have had a real
Speaker 2: long background of acting and have really well versed and
Speaker 2: educated in their career journey and in the industry in general.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how to say this without sounding
Speaker 2: so mean.
Speaker 1: This is a safe space. We know you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Mean, just say you say what you need
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: The first thing that popped into my head when I
Speaker 2: saw that Kim Kardashian was going to do Actor on Actors,
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, it's cheapening the show.
Speaker 1: Look that's fair. I think that is fair.
Speaker 2: I know that she has been like in acting roles,
Speaker 2: but I think this has opened a doorway for people
Speaker 2: who are influencers who want to try acting, to be
Speaker 2: on the show, Like I just want to see my
Speaker 2: A listers, Like this is the only show that I
Speaker 2: don't want to see modernized.
Speaker 1: Look I understand that, and on paper, it seems almost fair.
Speaker 1: They're there. Obviously, she doesn't have the extensive list of
Speaker 1: hits that Chloe seven Ye has, who's been in the
Speaker 1: industry for decades. But they're both there as the two
Speaker 1: leads of Ryan Murphy's shows. So obviously Chloe's on Feud
Speaker 1: and Kim Kardashian was pretty much the co lead with
Speaker 1: Emma Roberts on the recent season of American Horror Story Delicate,
Speaker 1: so they're there for that. A lot of people also
Speaker 1: like Chloe must be so upset, she'd be fuming, and
Speaker 1: to that, I'd say, like, she would have to agree
Speaker 1: to this before going into it, So it's not like
Speaker 1: she walked into the room beforehand and was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian's here, like she would have agreed to it.
Speaker 1: So because she has to do her research well exactly,
Speaker 1: and they have to prep it's been pre filmed, so
Speaker 1: it's not like she came out today and she's surprised.
Speaker 2: I'm very interested to hear the kind of questions Kim
Speaker 2: is gonna ask Chloe.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the thing? Though, as much as I was like.
Speaker 2: I know, I want to be proved wrong, Like I
Speaker 2: do want to genuinely be proved wrong.
Speaker 1: You saying that it's the one you're most interested to watch,
Speaker 1: and for me now it kind of is not just
Speaker 1: because I'm a massive Chloe seven year fan, but it's
Speaker 1: the one now that has this kind of interesting risk
Speaker 1: factor of what's going to happen, And now it's the
Speaker 1: one I want to watch the most too, which is
Speaker 1: exactly what this series is about. It's getting eyeballs on
Speaker 1: this series and getting people to talk about it, and
Speaker 1: so in that, like Kim Kardashian gets used for that
Speaker 1: a lot. You know, She's brought into things so that
Speaker 1: people will talk about them, but that is what she's
Speaker 1: built her brand off.
Speaker 2: And so I think Chloe has a really hard job.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean she's been in entertainment for decades,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, this is the first time
Speaker 1: she's had a lead acting role. And it's interesting because
Speaker 1: when it was first announced that she was going to
Speaker 1: be on American Horror Story, I was furious. I was
Speaker 1: like you were this morning because I love that show
Speaker 1: so much and I loved Chloe on it, and I
Speaker 1: was sad that she wasn't going to be in this season,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, it's going to be so distracting,
Speaker 1: because that's such a world building show, you know, with
Speaker 1: like the kind of horror and magical sci fi, all
Speaker 1: those things elements. They always have this incredible cars like
Speaker 1: that cast of American Horror Story is usually stacked with
Speaker 1: like Oscar winners, amy when as critically acclaimed stage performers, like,
Speaker 1: it's not just like a throwaway thing. It's a really
Speaker 1: good cast. And I thought Kim being in there was
Speaker 1: going to be just distracting and gimmicky. Like Ryan Murphy
Speaker 1: is good at casting for gimmicks, but it's usually just
Speaker 1: like a smaller part or a one episode. In that case,
Speaker 1: I think it really works. But she had a big
Speaker 1: part to play in every episode, and as I watched her,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my god, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 1: She's actually fine. Yeah, she was fine until she had
Speaker 1: a scene opposite Leslie Grossman, who is an incredible actress
Speaker 1: who is on American Horror Story a lot, and they
Speaker 1: had a scene together and I was like, Oh, she's
Speaker 1: just not good because Leslie Grossman, in like a few
Speaker 1: lines just blew her out of the water. And the
Speaker 1: reason it was so obvious is that if Kim hadn't
Speaker 1: played the part of Shivn, this like high profile publicist
Speaker 1: with all these biting kind of comebacks, it would have
Speaker 1: been Leslie because that's often the role she takes on
Speaker 1: in this franchise. So seeing them together, I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: once you see her against a strong actress like that,
Speaker 1: you can see how green she is and just how
Speaker 1: it's not her thing. But I mean she did Okay.
Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting that you said that because
Speaker 2: I remember the same kind of commentary happened around when
Speaker 2: Ryan Murphy casted Lady Gaga. Yeah, an American heart not
Speaker 2: to this level, definitely, but I think Lady Gaga just
Speaker 2: proved everyone wrong because she ended up being brilliant.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think with these roles that you can't
Speaker 2: just be fine, you have to be really good.
Speaker 1: But I think that, yeah, it's hard to bet, like
Speaker 1: she is there as an actress because she was the
Speaker 1: leader of a TV show and she has now started
Speaker 1: like producing movies and getting scripts made movies that she
Speaker 1: is going to star and like she is going to
Speaker 1: be an actress. That's her next big thing that's happening.
Speaker 2: Well, I did say, I'm happy to be proven wrong,
Speaker 2: and I hope she does because we're going to be seeing.
Speaker 1: More of her good. One other little bit of information
Speaker 1: just as we finish off that I think people have missed,
Speaker 1: is that John Hamm has also been announced as part
Speaker 1: of the variety Actors on Actors and hear and Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian have a long standing feud over the fact that
Speaker 1: he thinks she's stupid, and I think out of everyone,
Speaker 1: he's probably the most angry because back in twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: he gave an interview to l and he said, whether
Speaker 1: it's Paris Hilton or Kim Kadashian, whoever, stupidity is certainly celebrated,
Speaker 1: and then he said Kim's name again. He said, being
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot is a valuable commodity in this culture
Speaker 1: because you're rewarded significantly, and him really not nice the
Speaker 1: statement saying calling someone who runs their own businesses is
Speaker 1: part of a successful TV show, produces rights, designs, and
Speaker 1: creates stupid in my opinion, is careless. Then she knows.
Speaker 1: I respect John ham and I'm a firm believer that
Speaker 1: everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that no
Speaker 1: one takes the same path in life. We're all working
Speaker 1: hard and we all have to respect one another. Really
Speaker 1: fast forward many years later, and now they're both the
Speaker 1: headliners of this It's crazy that he just did that unprovoked.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like a variety shoot and I
Speaker 1: have just stand next to each other and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I called you domb. But now we're both being celebrated
Speaker 1: as like the biggest actors of the moment. He's still
Speaker 1: a wife, but maybe not. After this announcement. We'll link
Speaker 1: the four list of actors on actors in our show
Speaker 1: notes so you can have a look.
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