1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So much you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:18,984 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:26,784 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this 4 00:00:26,904 --> 00:00:30,464 Speaker 1: spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick and 5 00:00:30,584 --> 00:00:33,184 Speaker 1: I'm am Urnam and we have a very exciting show 6 00:00:33,184 --> 00:00:35,224 Speaker 1: today because there was a lot of drama on the weekend, 7 00:00:35,264 --> 00:00:36,784 Speaker 1: which I love saying when I'm sitting at home with 8 00:00:36,824 --> 00:00:39,904 Speaker 1: my couch just scrolling through and seeing what's going on, So. 9 00:00:40,184 --> 00:00:43,664 Speaker 2: Perfect weather for drama exactly. We were all online, we weren't. 10 00:00:43,384 --> 00:00:45,024 Speaker 1: Going out, and we just wanted a little hint of 11 00:00:45,024 --> 00:00:47,384 Speaker 1: excitement and we got that from Australian Fashion Week. Look, 12 00:00:47,384 --> 00:00:48,864 Speaker 1: there's a lot of bigger issues that we're going to 13 00:00:48,944 --> 00:00:50,664 Speaker 1: chat through, but there was also a whole bunch of 14 00:00:50,664 --> 00:00:53,944 Speaker 1: influenced drama from fashion Week that we're going to get into. 15 00:00:54,144 --> 00:00:56,304 Speaker 1: Plus we're going to be chatting about the Calm Film 16 00:00:56,344 --> 00:01:00,104 Speaker 1: Festival because there's been some interesting stuff there happening on 17 00:01:00,144 --> 00:01:03,504 Speaker 1: the red carpet. But before we get into that, look, 18 00:01:03,544 --> 00:01:05,664 Speaker 1: I hate to bring my personal life into the podcast. 19 00:01:05,704 --> 00:01:07,944 Speaker 1: I hate when my personal life and work intersect, but 20 00:01:08,024 --> 00:01:10,344 Speaker 1: this needed to be said at the end of life 21 00:01:10,424 --> 00:01:12,664 Speaker 1: last week, and I needed a few days to process. 22 00:01:12,664 --> 00:01:14,144 Speaker 1: That's why we didn't do it on the pod straight away, 23 00:01:14,184 --> 00:01:15,944 Speaker 1: because then time to like take it in and think 24 00:01:15,944 --> 00:01:19,864 Speaker 1: about how I felt. Is that Sarah Michelle Geller, Buffy 25 00:01:19,944 --> 00:01:23,704 Speaker 1: and Summers the Vampire Slayer herself, announced that they had 26 00:01:23,744 --> 00:01:26,704 Speaker 1: cast basically the lead role in the new Buffy the 27 00:01:26,744 --> 00:01:27,984 Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer reboot. 28 00:01:28,504 --> 00:01:30,864 Speaker 2: Is this big news for you, well, for the world, 29 00:01:30,904 --> 00:01:33,144 Speaker 2: for the Worlily. For the while, I thought she was 30 00:01:33,224 --> 00:01:35,184 Speaker 2: going to be the lead, so I was very confused. 31 00:01:35,344 --> 00:01:37,944 Speaker 1: Okay, So if you cast your mind back to February 32 00:01:38,024 --> 00:01:39,664 Speaker 1: of this year, when I want to say you and 33 00:01:39,664 --> 00:01:42,984 Speaker 1: I had our first fight. On the podcast, Sarah Michelle 34 00:01:42,984 --> 00:01:47,104 Speaker 1: Geller announced that nearly twenty years pretty much twenty years 35 00:01:47,424 --> 00:01:50,384 Speaker 1: after Buffy the Vampire Slayer ended, so it ended in 36 00:01:50,384 --> 00:01:53,744 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, so way more than twenty years ended, 37 00:01:53,904 --> 00:01:56,504 Speaker 1: and after people had been asking her for like decades 38 00:01:56,544 --> 00:01:58,344 Speaker 1: to bring the show back and she'd always said no. 39 00:01:58,784 --> 00:02:00,784 Speaker 1: And this is such an iconic show for anyone who's 40 00:02:00,784 --> 00:02:02,704 Speaker 1: on a cross it is the most studied show in 41 00:02:02,704 --> 00:02:04,944 Speaker 1: the world. Just so you've heard this before. I know, 42 00:02:04,984 --> 00:02:06,984 Speaker 1: I know but I just want the people to understand this, 43 00:02:07,184 --> 00:02:10,304 Speaker 1: like the cultural significance of this, Sarah Michelle Geller said, 44 00:02:10,504 --> 00:02:12,944 Speaker 1: Chloe's out. One of the only women who have won 45 00:02:12,984 --> 00:02:15,784 Speaker 1: an Oscar for Best Directing, also has won Oscars for 46 00:02:15,824 --> 00:02:19,504 Speaker 1: her film No Man Land. A really critically acclaimed filmmaker 47 00:02:19,824 --> 00:02:22,104 Speaker 1: had approached her because she is a big Buffy fan. 48 00:02:22,744 --> 00:02:26,424 Speaker 1: Because all smart women are. She listens to the spell Yes, no, no, 49 00:02:26,584 --> 00:02:28,584 Speaker 1: it's bigger than us. The legacy of Buffy the Vampire 50 00:02:28,584 --> 00:02:31,024 Speaker 1: Slayer had approached Sarah Michelle Geller and given her an 51 00:02:31,064 --> 00:02:33,384 Speaker 1: idea for the first time. Sarah Michelle Geller said that yes, 52 00:02:33,464 --> 00:02:36,984 Speaker 1: she would be interested in reprising Buffy. So after that, 53 00:02:37,104 --> 00:02:39,624 Speaker 1: Hulu made an order for the series. But up until then, 54 00:02:39,664 --> 00:02:43,024 Speaker 1: it still felt like a dream of something that was 55 00:02:43,064 --> 00:02:45,264 Speaker 1: actually never going to happen. This is the closest we've 56 00:02:45,264 --> 00:02:48,224 Speaker 1: ever got. But I didn't let myself like emotionally deal 57 00:02:48,264 --> 00:02:50,544 Speaker 1: with the turmoil of this as many fans did, because 58 00:02:50,544 --> 00:02:53,544 Speaker 1: we just didn't know if it was ever going to happen. 59 00:02:53,904 --> 00:02:57,144 Speaker 1: But then Sarah Michelle Gallup posted a video where she 60 00:02:57,344 --> 00:03:00,144 Speaker 1: offers a lead role, so kind of I guess starring 61 00:03:00,144 --> 00:03:02,664 Speaker 1: opposite her or the lead of the new Buffy the 62 00:03:02,744 --> 00:03:06,384 Speaker 1: Vampire series to a young fifteen year old actress called 63 00:03:06,504 --> 00:03:09,584 Speaker 1: Ryan Kiara Armstrong, And this is what she said. 64 00:03:09,584 --> 00:03:11,744 Speaker 3: How do you feel about helping me save the world? 65 00:03:12,744 --> 00:03:13,264 Speaker 1: Good? 66 00:03:13,904 --> 00:03:17,504 Speaker 3: You want to be my chosen one? Will you stand 67 00:03:17,504 --> 00:03:18,904 Speaker 3: by my side and save the world? 68 00:03:19,704 --> 00:03:21,784 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right? 69 00:03:21,904 --> 00:03:24,464 Speaker 3: We all love you and from the second we all 70 00:03:24,464 --> 00:03:27,384 Speaker 3: saw your tape there was nobody else in our eyes 71 00:03:27,464 --> 00:03:29,784 Speaker 3: that could do it that we wanted to do it with. 72 00:03:29,944 --> 00:03:32,744 Speaker 3: And I'm so excited to stand by your side and 73 00:03:32,824 --> 00:03:36,944 Speaker 3: have you be my partner on this journey. 74 00:03:36,024 --> 00:03:42,624 Speaker 4: So home you yes, yes, yes, yes, for sure, yes, Oh, 75 00:03:42,944 --> 00:03:43,384 Speaker 4: thank you. 76 00:03:43,664 --> 00:03:44,824 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. 77 00:03:45,544 --> 00:03:46,824 Speaker 3: Welcome to New Sunnydale. 78 00:03:47,024 --> 00:03:47,344 Speaker 1: Thank you. 79 00:03:47,864 --> 00:03:50,704 Speaker 2: That's really cute. It reminds me of like those videos 80 00:03:50,704 --> 00:03:54,184 Speaker 2: of when Olympians get chosen for the Olympics and then. 81 00:03:54,224 --> 00:03:56,264 Speaker 1: Just crying, Oh, this is the same level as that. 82 00:03:56,384 --> 00:03:57,824 Speaker 1: Just so you know, we'll also in that. 83 00:03:57,824 --> 00:03:59,944 Speaker 2: It's terrible. They should they should have checked that. 84 00:04:00,944 --> 00:04:03,784 Speaker 1: Okay, she's only fifteen, she's a young actress. She's been 85 00:04:03,904 --> 00:04:06,024 Speaker 1: in like that five started movie, in a Star Wars 86 00:04:06,104 --> 00:04:08,184 Speaker 1: TV series, so she's acted quite a bit. But this 87 00:04:08,224 --> 00:04:11,144 Speaker 1: is her big kind of breakthrough role and look, I'm 88 00:04:11,144 --> 00:04:13,784 Speaker 1: just gonna say I don't love it. I kind of 89 00:04:13,784 --> 00:04:15,664 Speaker 1: now that I saw that, I'm sure she's great, but 90 00:04:15,704 --> 00:04:16,904 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just made it all a bit 91 00:04:16,904 --> 00:04:17,504 Speaker 1: too real. 92 00:04:17,584 --> 00:04:18,424 Speaker 2: Because you don't know her. 93 00:04:19,024 --> 00:04:21,384 Speaker 1: No, it's not even that I don't know. I just 94 00:04:21,784 --> 00:04:23,224 Speaker 1: it's a lot to kind of take any only thing 95 00:04:23,304 --> 00:04:25,184 Speaker 1: I think that will make Buffy fans like quite happy 96 00:04:25,224 --> 00:04:28,264 Speaker 1: because obviously Joss Whedon, who created Buffy, is now like 97 00:04:28,304 --> 00:04:31,944 Speaker 1: a disgraased, shunned filmmaker and can't be involved. But all 98 00:04:31,984 --> 00:04:35,824 Speaker 1: the original producers from the original Buffy series are coming back, 99 00:04:36,104 --> 00:04:40,504 Speaker 1: including a young lady called Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton produce Buffy. 100 00:04:41,184 --> 00:04:43,184 Speaker 1: Yeah that's important to note. So she was never like 101 00:04:43,264 --> 00:04:45,184 Speaker 1: in the writer's room or hands or anything like that, 102 00:04:45,224 --> 00:04:49,544 Speaker 1: but her company San Dollar Entertainment produced the original Buffy 103 00:04:49,544 --> 00:04:52,064 Speaker 1: the Vampire series, so like sometimes she would send gifts 104 00:04:52,064 --> 00:04:54,784 Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, of course everything good is traced back 105 00:04:54,824 --> 00:04:59,064 Speaker 1: to Dolly Parton, so obviously she's involved with Buffy, and 106 00:04:59,104 --> 00:05:01,784 Speaker 1: she's Dolly's back on board for the new Buffy. So 107 00:05:01,824 --> 00:05:03,824 Speaker 1: I just think maybe I'll just put my stress aside, 108 00:05:03,864 --> 00:05:06,984 Speaker 1: because like Sarah Michelle is in Chloe's hours in Dolly 109 00:05:07,024 --> 00:05:09,424 Speaker 1: Parton's in who might hold them back. So it's still 110 00:05:09,544 --> 00:05:11,984 Speaker 1: gonna be good. It won't be until late next year, 111 00:05:12,144 --> 00:05:15,384 Speaker 1: if ever, if it comes out, but just ever, I 112 00:05:15,384 --> 00:05:17,224 Speaker 1: don't know. Just so you know, I've never had a 113 00:05:17,304 --> 00:05:19,384 Speaker 1: job because I was a teenager when Buffy was out. 114 00:05:19,384 --> 00:05:21,824 Speaker 1: I've never had a job and also watched Buffy the 115 00:05:21,904 --> 00:05:24,504 Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer, and I'm not doing those two things together, 116 00:05:24,624 --> 00:05:28,664 Speaker 1: so I will be taking extendedly when it comes out. 117 00:05:29,304 --> 00:05:32,304 Speaker 2: Okay, the carn Film Festival, we have been talking about 118 00:05:32,344 --> 00:05:34,864 Speaker 2: this for a while now, but we're now on I 119 00:05:34,864 --> 00:05:38,184 Speaker 2: think it's day five, yes, and everything has been going 120 00:05:38,224 --> 00:05:40,744 Speaker 2: on on the Red carpet, So we originally talked about 121 00:05:40,824 --> 00:05:45,104 Speaker 2: the insane rules that they put out there, most importantly 122 00:05:45,384 --> 00:05:50,104 Speaker 2: no nudity on the Red carpet or no outfits that dress. Yeah, 123 00:05:50,104 --> 00:05:56,304 Speaker 2: no shared dresses and no voluminous outfits, meaning basically no dresses. 124 00:05:55,864 --> 00:05:58,664 Speaker 1: With the big trail, which at the time, because we 125 00:05:58,744 --> 00:06:00,824 Speaker 1: covered on the spill of the day, the Hollywood Reporter 126 00:06:00,904 --> 00:06:03,824 Speaker 1: broke that story and I assumed that information had been 127 00:06:03,864 --> 00:06:06,544 Speaker 1: passed around behind the scenes, and this was just like 128 00:06:06,664 --> 00:06:09,184 Speaker 1: the punters who were not being invited, like us who 129 00:06:09,224 --> 00:06:11,784 Speaker 1: were finding out about it now, but no, everyone found 130 00:06:11,824 --> 00:06:13,824 Speaker 1: out about it at the same time, so so many 131 00:06:13,864 --> 00:06:17,224 Speaker 1: stylists and glam teams and like celebrities were going shit, 132 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:20,824 Speaker 1: like I packed the luminous sheer dress, What am I 133 00:06:20,824 --> 00:06:22,824 Speaker 1: gonna wear now? So they've had to like behind the 134 00:06:22,864 --> 00:06:24,224 Speaker 1: scenes move some stuff around. 135 00:06:24,424 --> 00:06:27,944 Speaker 2: Halle Berry was someone who actually had an outfit planned 136 00:06:28,024 --> 00:06:30,304 Speaker 2: by Gupta, and she said that she couldn't wear it 137 00:06:30,384 --> 00:06:33,144 Speaker 2: because it had a big long train, so instead she 138 00:06:33,184 --> 00:06:36,304 Speaker 2: wore this kind of black and white striped dress. 139 00:06:36,464 --> 00:06:39,104 Speaker 1: Yes, very I just think I said everything halle Berry's 140 00:06:39,104 --> 00:06:40,904 Speaker 1: bean free. We should just give that woman a pass. 141 00:06:41,024 --> 00:06:41,864 Speaker 1: Let her wear the dress. 142 00:06:41,904 --> 00:06:45,144 Speaker 2: Everyone the two people did break the rules up. Who 143 00:06:45,624 --> 00:06:46,304 Speaker 2: Heidi Clumb? 144 00:06:46,504 --> 00:06:48,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously Heidi Clumb has never fallen. I had that 145 00:06:48,744 --> 00:06:50,984 Speaker 1: woman so much. She never follows a dress code. And 146 00:06:50,984 --> 00:06:52,864 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know the celebrity. Her name 147 00:06:52,904 --> 00:06:57,704 Speaker 1: is Felicity, just Felicity. Yes, she did her Can't Save 148 00:06:57,744 --> 00:07:02,104 Speaker 1: You in twenty twenty three. Oh she is a rescue dog. Oh. 149 00:07:03,384 --> 00:07:04,944 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, there's a celebrity. I 150 00:07:04,984 --> 00:07:06,424 Speaker 1: don't know. This has never happened to before. 151 00:07:06,584 --> 00:07:08,504 Speaker 2: We wore of voluminous dress. 152 00:07:08,624 --> 00:07:09,224 Speaker 1: The dog did. 153 00:07:09,264 --> 00:07:10,744 Speaker 2: The dog had a little train. 154 00:07:11,624 --> 00:07:15,584 Speaker 1: That's a messy dog. That dog came to I. 155 00:07:15,584 --> 00:07:18,024 Speaker 2: Know what to do. Yeah, I am wearing my voluminous 156 00:07:18,024 --> 00:07:19,384 Speaker 2: app She's like, sorry, I had. 157 00:07:19,224 --> 00:07:21,304 Speaker 1: This shipped here and I have got no other options. 158 00:07:21,464 --> 00:07:23,544 Speaker 1: It's hard sometimes if you're not This is the thing 159 00:07:23,544 --> 00:07:25,904 Speaker 1: about fashion. If you're not a standard size and a 160 00:07:25,944 --> 00:07:28,064 Speaker 1: standard body shape, that you can't go buy stuff. And 161 00:07:28,064 --> 00:07:30,424 Speaker 1: that's what Felicity's dealing with. She can't just go into 162 00:07:30,424 --> 00:07:31,584 Speaker 1: a shop and buy another dress. 163 00:07:31,704 --> 00:07:34,184 Speaker 2: That's true. So she had to work with what she got. 164 00:07:34,304 --> 00:07:35,344 Speaker 2: You know what she worked it. 165 00:07:35,464 --> 00:07:38,824 Speaker 1: We will post some photosa Okay, Felicity's going on the 166 00:07:38,864 --> 00:07:40,984 Speaker 1: instanced Oh she's such a cute it. 167 00:07:41,064 --> 00:07:45,424 Speaker 2: She's a rescue dog. Okay, we do have how do 168 00:07:45,504 --> 00:07:48,144 Speaker 2: I put this? I want to say an insect two 169 00:07:48,184 --> 00:07:52,384 Speaker 2: point zero? Do you remember the met Gala when the cockroach? Yes, mate, 170 00:07:52,464 --> 00:07:55,024 Speaker 2: when we had our like insect debut the. 171 00:07:54,944 --> 00:07:56,864 Speaker 1: Met gal steps. There's a lot of people running around, 172 00:07:56,904 --> 00:07:59,664 Speaker 1: there's a lot of voluminous dresses. People are gonna say, 173 00:07:59,664 --> 00:08:01,264 Speaker 1: you guys aren't saying that right into that, I say, 174 00:08:01,384 --> 00:08:03,904 Speaker 1: you guys are right, we aren't. There's a lot of 175 00:08:03,944 --> 00:08:07,024 Speaker 1: words we can't say that cockroach was The Vogue live 176 00:08:07,064 --> 00:08:11,064 Speaker 1: stream was tracking it right start at the bottom of 177 00:08:11,104 --> 00:08:15,584 Speaker 1: the carpet. It made oh boy, up the stairs. It 178 00:08:15,664 --> 00:08:17,664 Speaker 1: kept getting knocked over and sometimes I thought it was dead, 179 00:08:17,704 --> 00:08:19,264 Speaker 1: but then it would come back alive. I was going 180 00:08:19,264 --> 00:08:25,304 Speaker 1: faster than Tylers and then eventually die. That was so sad. Well, 181 00:08:25,424 --> 00:08:27,104 Speaker 1: corpse was just left on the red carpet. 182 00:08:27,144 --> 00:08:31,064 Speaker 2: I think it's been incarnated into another bug, into a bee, 183 00:08:31,144 --> 00:08:34,264 Speaker 2: because we had another incident on the carn red carpet. 184 00:08:34,384 --> 00:08:36,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bee and. 185 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:40,904 Speaker 2: It was tracking Emma Stone like you wouldn't believe this bee, 186 00:08:41,184 --> 00:08:44,264 Speaker 2: I think because okay, and the hard thing about bees, yeah, 187 00:08:44,304 --> 00:08:46,544 Speaker 2: it's because we have to save them, right Yeah, So 188 00:08:46,744 --> 00:08:50,584 Speaker 2: unlike a cockroach, I think the celebrities have had their 189 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:53,184 Speaker 2: media training. They know what to do when it comes 190 00:08:53,224 --> 00:08:55,824 Speaker 2: to bees. They obviously don't want to be stung, but 191 00:08:55,864 --> 00:08:58,264 Speaker 2: at the same time they can't be witnessed killing a bee. 192 00:08:58,464 --> 00:09:02,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, because bees are endangered for keeping the planet alive. 193 00:09:02,304 --> 00:09:03,904 Speaker 1: So it was quite. 194 00:09:03,624 --> 00:09:06,424 Speaker 2: Like beautifully choreographed what I want to say. Yeah, so 195 00:09:06,504 --> 00:09:09,144 Speaker 2: it was Pedro Pascal standing next to. 196 00:09:09,264 --> 00:09:11,504 Speaker 1: Exactly who I'd want to me if I was being attacked. 197 00:09:11,264 --> 00:09:15,104 Speaker 2: By standing next to Emmstone, standing next to Austin Butler. 198 00:09:15,344 --> 00:09:19,024 Speaker 2: Emmastone was sandwich between Austin and Pedro. And what happened 199 00:09:19,104 --> 00:09:24,024 Speaker 2: was the bee just be live towards her face. Yeah, 200 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:27,144 Speaker 2: and you could see Pedro kind of like shielding her 201 00:09:27,144 --> 00:09:31,744 Speaker 2: face to protect her. It was very manly, very of course. 202 00:09:31,824 --> 00:09:35,104 Speaker 2: Of course he was Austin Butler blowing on the bee. 203 00:09:35,744 --> 00:09:37,344 Speaker 2: What he was blowing the bee away? 204 00:09:37,464 --> 00:09:39,944 Speaker 1: I would not trust that man to like host it 205 00:09:39,984 --> 00:09:42,304 Speaker 1: in a party. Let larone save me from like any 206 00:09:42,344 --> 00:09:43,224 Speaker 1: kind of certain. 207 00:09:42,984 --> 00:09:46,264 Speaker 2: Day, Like I just don't open your mouth and if it. 208 00:09:46,224 --> 00:09:49,264 Speaker 1: Stings inside, that's when your airway will close up. Yes, 209 00:09:49,384 --> 00:09:53,864 Speaker 1: my god, Austin, he's so brave, rave or stupid? 210 00:09:53,944 --> 00:09:56,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know, Emmstone. With these two brave men. 211 00:09:56,464 --> 00:09:59,384 Speaker 2: The bee was hounding on her though, which I think 212 00:09:59,504 --> 00:10:01,624 Speaker 2: is kind of maybe, I don't know, an act of endearment. 213 00:10:01,744 --> 00:10:04,304 Speaker 2: If a bee followed me, I'd be quite impressed. 214 00:10:04,664 --> 00:10:06,784 Speaker 1: I mean, it just depends. I Emmastone could be like 215 00:10:06,864 --> 00:10:08,504 Speaker 1: me and the little boy from My Girl, and that 216 00:10:08,544 --> 00:10:10,624 Speaker 1: she could be really allergic to bees and once and 217 00:10:10,664 --> 00:10:12,024 Speaker 1: she's dead. Yeah. 218 00:10:12,104 --> 00:10:15,024 Speaker 2: The Getty photos did show that she was absolutely terrified. 219 00:10:15,064 --> 00:10:17,144 Speaker 1: She's like crouching down and he's Some people like, oh, 220 00:10:17,144 --> 00:10:19,264 Speaker 1: she's overreacting, and I was like, how would you react 221 00:10:19,264 --> 00:10:20,904 Speaker 1: if for Bee was buzzing around your head? 222 00:10:21,064 --> 00:10:23,464 Speaker 2: That's true? Yeah, yeah, no, she had a rite to 223 00:10:23,504 --> 00:10:27,184 Speaker 2: be said someone who surprised photographers on the red carpet. 224 00:10:27,184 --> 00:10:30,744 Speaker 2: It was Angelia Majoli. So she is I don't know 225 00:10:30,744 --> 00:10:32,784 Speaker 2: if this is right, but this is what everyone's saying, 226 00:10:33,144 --> 00:10:36,664 Speaker 2: Godmother of the festival. 227 00:10:37,064 --> 00:10:39,224 Speaker 1: Did not know who were going with that is godmother 228 00:10:39,264 --> 00:10:39,744 Speaker 1: the right time. 229 00:10:39,824 --> 00:10:42,424 Speaker 2: I think she she called herself godmother because her role 230 00:10:42,504 --> 00:10:45,864 Speaker 2: is to hand out an award for like younger upcoming actors. 231 00:10:45,984 --> 00:10:46,184 Speaker 1: Yeah. 232 00:10:46,384 --> 00:10:49,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they like her label as godmother. Oh okay, 233 00:10:49,144 --> 00:10:50,864 Speaker 2: which I'm I don't know about that. 234 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:52,624 Speaker 1: I know this what were talking about last week when 235 00:10:52,664 --> 00:10:54,464 Speaker 1: you learned for the first time there were juries and 236 00:10:54,504 --> 00:10:56,264 Speaker 1: people like judging and stuff like that. 237 00:10:56,264 --> 00:10:58,264 Speaker 2: So that's like a full procedural. 238 00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:00,664 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like so a lot of celebrities because to 239 00:11:00,664 --> 00:11:02,544 Speaker 1: their celebrities to ask, but it's just like them being 240 00:11:02,624 --> 00:11:04,904 Speaker 1: part of like something in there, you know, in their 241 00:11:04,904 --> 00:11:07,064 Speaker 1: industry like everyone else is where they're like on the 242 00:11:07,064 --> 00:11:09,864 Speaker 1: board for carn or like they're on the jury panel 243 00:11:10,384 --> 00:11:11,944 Speaker 1: all that sort of thing. So I guess that's because 244 00:11:11,984 --> 00:11:15,544 Speaker 1: she's been involved in the festival for many years, that she's, 245 00:11:15,744 --> 00:11:17,824 Speaker 1: you know, part of the inner working done. 246 00:11:17,984 --> 00:11:20,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure Big Angeline a jolly fan of here. 247 00:11:20,544 --> 00:11:23,744 Speaker 2: I actually think I am. You Remember when I had 248 00:11:23,744 --> 00:11:26,144 Speaker 2: that big epiphany about Scarlett Johans and how much I 249 00:11:26,184 --> 00:11:27,904 Speaker 2: love her. Yeah, I think I'm doing the same thing 250 00:11:27,904 --> 00:11:30,584 Speaker 2: with Angelina and Jeli. Yeah, Like, she's amazing, she has 251 00:11:30,664 --> 00:11:32,064 Speaker 2: amazing She's been through so much. 252 00:11:32,464 --> 00:11:33,904 Speaker 1: I feel like you need to go back and watch 253 00:11:33,944 --> 00:11:35,744 Speaker 1: like a huge amount of her movies that I feel 254 00:11:35,784 --> 00:11:40,304 Speaker 1: like you're potentially I would have missed, Like Girl interrupted. 255 00:11:39,384 --> 00:11:41,944 Speaker 2: Mister Mimes Smith. Okay, that's about the one she wants 256 00:11:41,984 --> 00:11:42,504 Speaker 2: me to watch. 257 00:11:42,544 --> 00:11:44,664 Speaker 1: I mean, she's great in that movie. But there's a 258 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:46,984 Speaker 1: lot of other movies that she's done where you're just like, 259 00:11:47,024 --> 00:11:48,584 Speaker 1: this woman is an incredible actress. 260 00:11:48,624 --> 00:11:53,424 Speaker 2: She's incredible. Okay. My last little bit is Robert Patterson 261 00:11:53,704 --> 00:11:57,024 Speaker 2: and Jennifer Lawrence rosing together on the red carpet. Look, 262 00:11:57,704 --> 00:12:00,224 Speaker 2: I know they're married with children, they look really married 263 00:12:00,264 --> 00:12:02,584 Speaker 2: to other people with children, to other people children, but 264 00:12:02,624 --> 00:12:04,984 Speaker 2: they look so good together and I think it's about 265 00:12:05,024 --> 00:12:07,944 Speaker 2: if you grew up into two thousands. It's the Catnus 266 00:12:07,944 --> 00:12:11,824 Speaker 2: Everdeen and Edward Cullen coming to Yeah, and they look 267 00:12:11,984 --> 00:12:13,744 Speaker 2: so good and I kind of want them to be together, 268 00:12:13,784 --> 00:12:15,304 Speaker 2: but I know I shouldn't say that. I shouldn't put 269 00:12:15,304 --> 00:12:15,864 Speaker 2: that in the universe. 270 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:18,664 Speaker 1: Well yeah, well Suki Waterhouse and also her husband, who's 271 00:12:18,664 --> 00:12:21,384 Speaker 1: like an art dealer. I'm sure he's fine, but you know, 272 00:12:21,424 --> 00:12:24,344 Speaker 1: you wouldn't be cheating on Suki Waterhouse. Yeah. What I 273 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:26,304 Speaker 1: think is interesting is that they're the same person. I 274 00:12:26,304 --> 00:12:30,024 Speaker 1: hadn't really thought before. Whereas they both often will act 275 00:12:30,064 --> 00:12:32,144 Speaker 1: like they'll present this front where they're both like a 276 00:12:32,224 --> 00:12:34,864 Speaker 1: my serious actor and I've moved on from my teen 277 00:12:35,264 --> 00:12:40,384 Speaker 1: movie background, But then they're so silly and ridiculous when 278 00:12:40,384 --> 00:12:43,104 Speaker 1: they're doing some of their interviews and they were literally giggling. 279 00:12:43,344 --> 00:12:45,104 Speaker 1: They were giggling all the way down the red carp 280 00:12:45,184 --> 00:12:47,384 Speaker 1: and like hugging each other and stuff, but not even 281 00:12:47,384 --> 00:12:49,064 Speaker 1: in a sexy way, just in like a brother and 282 00:12:49,104 --> 00:12:52,344 Speaker 1: sister way, because Robert Pattinson, he's just like a quirky 283 00:12:52,464 --> 00:12:55,744 Speaker 1: little boy who likes to giggle and loves her and 284 00:12:55,864 --> 00:12:58,384 Speaker 1: loves to like make up funny stories and say he 285 00:12:58,424 --> 00:13:00,544 Speaker 1: smells like a candle and say that he's trying to 286 00:13:00,584 --> 00:13:02,464 Speaker 1: invent a past a sandwich that you can eat on 287 00:13:02,504 --> 00:13:05,104 Speaker 1: the go because passes a bad food to carry around, 288 00:13:05,144 --> 00:13:08,744 Speaker 1: like he's crazy. And Jennifer Lawrence before like people just 289 00:13:08,784 --> 00:13:10,904 Speaker 1: like knock to any kind of happiness out of home 290 00:13:10,984 --> 00:13:13,224 Speaker 1: chat to like God the spotlight for a few years 291 00:13:13,424 --> 00:13:15,024 Speaker 1: is also just a silly girl. And so I think 292 00:13:15,064 --> 00:13:17,384 Speaker 1: the two of them together are quite quite a vibe. 293 00:13:17,544 --> 00:13:20,064 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, those are my red carpet. 294 00:13:20,744 --> 00:13:23,384 Speaker 1: I love that reporting not live from Calm because we 295 00:13:23,384 --> 00:13:23,904 Speaker 1: weren't vited. 296 00:13:23,984 --> 00:13:25,384 Speaker 2: But can we go next year? 297 00:13:25,824 --> 00:13:27,944 Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's some Australians there with lorel so 298 00:13:27,944 --> 00:13:30,224 Speaker 1: I don't think we can get accreditation. I've never tried, 299 00:13:30,224 --> 00:13:32,184 Speaker 1: but I'm assuming it's a no. We need to get 300 00:13:32,224 --> 00:13:35,384 Speaker 1: become beauty influencers and they get a brand to take us. 301 00:13:35,544 --> 00:13:38,344 Speaker 1: Got it long term plan for next year? You're easy. 302 00:13:40,864 --> 00:13:43,264 Speaker 1: So Australian Fashion Week has come to an end after 303 00:13:43,304 --> 00:13:46,584 Speaker 1: a very glitzy run at Carriage Works and like various 304 00:13:46,624 --> 00:13:49,544 Speaker 1: other locations in Sydney this week it did look a 305 00:13:49,544 --> 00:13:51,864 Speaker 1: little bit different because for the first time ever, it 306 00:13:52,024 --> 00:13:55,664 Speaker 1: was helmed by the Australian Fashion Council because IgM, the 307 00:13:55,704 --> 00:13:59,144 Speaker 1: company who had facilitated the event foremost twenty years, pulled out. 308 00:13:59,384 --> 00:14:01,224 Speaker 1: So that happened last year and everyone's like, oh my god, 309 00:14:01,304 --> 00:14:03,104 Speaker 1: We're not going to have an Australian Fashion Week anymore. 310 00:14:03,104 --> 00:14:06,224 Speaker 1: What's going to happen. So the Australian Fashion Council stepped 311 00:14:06,224 --> 00:14:08,984 Speaker 1: in along with I believe It's Destination, New South Wales 312 00:14:09,024 --> 00:14:10,264 Speaker 1: and pulled this event together. 313 00:14:10,584 --> 00:14:13,384 Speaker 2: So quick question, Yeah, Australian Fashion Week. Is that a 314 00:14:13,464 --> 00:14:16,704 Speaker 2: separate entity to like Sydney Fashion Week and Melbourne Fashion Week? 315 00:14:16,864 --> 00:14:20,304 Speaker 1: Yes, so Australian Fashion Week is more of an industry event, 316 00:14:20,424 --> 00:14:22,824 Speaker 1: so you have to be invited to shows. You can't 317 00:14:22,824 --> 00:14:25,064 Speaker 1: buy tickets to things, you know, like at Melbourne Fashion 318 00:14:25,104 --> 00:14:28,064 Speaker 1: Festival or like Brisbane Fashion Festival back in the day, 319 00:14:28,104 --> 00:14:29,904 Speaker 1: all those sorts of things. You know, you could buy 320 00:14:29,904 --> 00:14:31,504 Speaker 1: a ticket to a show if you're just someone who 321 00:14:31,504 --> 00:14:33,144 Speaker 1: wanted to go, you could buy a ticket talk talk, 322 00:14:33,344 --> 00:14:36,144 Speaker 1: Whereas Australian Fashion Week is at its core meant to 323 00:14:36,184 --> 00:14:40,664 Speaker 1: be for designers to showcase their new lines to editors 324 00:14:40,704 --> 00:14:42,784 Speaker 1: and buyers and all that sort of thing, so it's 325 00:14:42,784 --> 00:14:45,744 Speaker 1: more exclusive industry, yes, And this year I think people 326 00:14:45,784 --> 00:14:47,904 Speaker 1: really felt that because this year we've come to this 327 00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:51,264 Speaker 1: interesting It's been obviously bubbling away for many many years, 328 00:14:51,304 --> 00:14:53,064 Speaker 1: but I think this year you really saw kind of 329 00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:55,904 Speaker 1: the fallout from it, this idea of like traditional media 330 00:14:55,944 --> 00:14:57,864 Speaker 1: and new media are kind of coming together in this 331 00:14:58,024 --> 00:15:01,744 Speaker 1: space and seeing the fallout from that. Because so at 332 00:15:01,784 --> 00:15:05,504 Speaker 1: Carriage Works, outside of that area, anyone can go and 333 00:15:05,624 --> 00:15:09,064 Speaker 1: just like take pictures and be interviews. So most of 334 00:15:09,184 --> 00:15:11,624 Speaker 1: fashion Week from like to the Naked Eye, unless you're 335 00:15:11,664 --> 00:15:13,784 Speaker 1: like reading all the trades and following editors and stuff 336 00:15:13,824 --> 00:15:16,624 Speaker 1: like that, looks like it's all of this like crazy 337 00:15:16,664 --> 00:15:19,304 Speaker 1: over the top fashion and people posing outside of Carriage 338 00:15:19,344 --> 00:15:24,184 Speaker 1: Works and being interviewed by like different publications. And a 339 00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:26,944 Speaker 1: lot of backlash came from that of people saying that 340 00:15:26,944 --> 00:15:29,144 Speaker 1: Australian fashion it was bad this week, that no one 341 00:15:29,224 --> 00:15:31,864 Speaker 1: actually famous wanted to attend, and that it was like 342 00:15:31,944 --> 00:15:35,344 Speaker 1: overruled pretty much with TikTokers and bloggers who weren't not blockers. 343 00:15:35,504 --> 00:15:38,264 Speaker 1: That's very old school TikTokers and like social media people 344 00:15:38,624 --> 00:15:41,544 Speaker 1: who had come to the event. And there was also 345 00:15:41,584 --> 00:15:44,744 Speaker 1: this idea that the interview questions being asked, were causing 346 00:15:44,744 --> 00:15:48,024 Speaker 1: this kind of like uproar in the Australian influencer world. 347 00:15:48,144 --> 00:15:52,264 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I've seen so much on TikTok. But 348 00:15:52,744 --> 00:15:56,064 Speaker 2: it's also I think the difference between new media is 349 00:15:56,064 --> 00:15:59,144 Speaker 2: that in traditional media, when we would like interview and 350 00:15:59,184 --> 00:16:02,104 Speaker 2: write about the interviews we've done, the people we were 351 00:16:02,144 --> 00:16:07,184 Speaker 2: actually interviewing also didn't have direct access to speak on 352 00:16:07,264 --> 00:16:11,024 Speaker 2: their like experience either, so we weren't getting this in 353 00:16:11,064 --> 00:16:14,424 Speaker 2: real time feedback from the people we were interviewing, which 354 00:16:14,464 --> 00:16:17,384 Speaker 2: is really interesting because if you're scrolling on TikTok, you 355 00:16:17,384 --> 00:16:20,184 Speaker 2: would see like the interviews that people have been doing 356 00:16:20,224 --> 00:16:22,904 Speaker 2: on Australian Fashion Week, and then immediately the video the 357 00:16:22,944 --> 00:16:26,664 Speaker 2: next video would be that same person describing the interview. 358 00:16:26,384 --> 00:16:26,904 Speaker 1: They just did. 359 00:16:27,144 --> 00:16:29,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's just like it's just so fast 360 00:16:29,864 --> 00:16:33,424 Speaker 2: paced now, and I feel like I've seen so much 361 00:16:33,424 --> 00:16:36,424 Speaker 2: from Australian Fashion Week this year than I have any 362 00:16:36,464 --> 00:16:36,904 Speaker 2: other year. 363 00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:38,424 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah. 364 00:16:38,464 --> 00:16:41,344 Speaker 2: Every other year you had to actually be interested or 365 00:16:41,424 --> 00:16:44,344 Speaker 2: like work in that line to see all of this stuff. 366 00:16:44,744 --> 00:16:47,464 Speaker 2: And now just as a consumer on social media, you're 367 00:16:47,504 --> 00:16:48,344 Speaker 2: seeing it anyway. 368 00:16:48,864 --> 00:16:50,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, It'll just kind of come into your feed 369 00:16:51,024 --> 00:16:52,824 Speaker 1: but I guess you're really only seeing a lot of 370 00:16:52,824 --> 00:16:56,464 Speaker 1: the drama that's unfolding outside, not so much what's happening inside, 371 00:16:56,464 --> 00:16:57,464 Speaker 1: which I can't say. 372 00:16:57,304 --> 00:16:58,464 Speaker 2: Anything that's happening inside. 373 00:16:58,544 --> 00:17:00,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I guess like basically, people which I put 374 00:17:00,184 --> 00:17:01,824 Speaker 1: myself in that category of people who don't work in 375 00:17:01,824 --> 00:17:04,744 Speaker 1: that industry is normal, like we wouldn't normally be I'm 376 00:17:04,784 --> 00:17:07,424 Speaker 1: not watching like the runways a like Paris Fashion Week 377 00:17:07,464 --> 00:17:09,504 Speaker 1: or anything like that to see what's happening, but I 378 00:17:09,504 --> 00:17:11,264 Speaker 1: think they see what was in is like you've got 379 00:17:11,304 --> 00:17:14,464 Speaker 1: more traditional media, and I was reading a lot of 380 00:17:14,464 --> 00:17:18,064 Speaker 1: different like either posts, articles and that sort of thing 381 00:17:18,064 --> 00:17:20,704 Speaker 1: from more traditional journalists who are there to kind of 382 00:17:20,744 --> 00:17:23,344 Speaker 1: work and report on trends and new lines and designers, 383 00:17:23,624 --> 00:17:26,464 Speaker 1: and they're kind of thinking is not to generalize them all, 384 00:17:26,464 --> 00:17:29,104 Speaker 1: but you know, the kind of overall thinking was very 385 00:17:29,184 --> 00:17:31,304 Speaker 1: much that if you're really there to do a job, 386 00:17:31,344 --> 00:17:33,744 Speaker 1: then your outfit shouldn't be one that all of the 387 00:17:33,744 --> 00:17:36,064 Speaker 1: paparazzi outside or people are going to flock to. Like 388 00:17:36,344 --> 00:17:38,424 Speaker 1: you can just stress in your own style. You're also 389 00:17:38,464 --> 00:17:40,544 Speaker 1: there to work, to be comfortable, to wear pieces that 390 00:17:40,584 --> 00:17:42,544 Speaker 1: you love that are really well worn and that you 391 00:17:42,624 --> 00:17:44,624 Speaker 1: just slip in and then you write about the shows, 392 00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:46,664 Speaker 1: and you should also be able to be critical. So 393 00:17:46,704 --> 00:17:48,904 Speaker 1: even if you don't get invited back, then you can 394 00:17:48,904 --> 00:17:51,104 Speaker 1: still watch the stream and report and that kind of 395 00:17:51,144 --> 00:17:53,824 Speaker 1: like old school fashion journalism. And then on the outside 396 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:56,224 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who couldn't get into shows, 397 00:17:56,784 --> 00:17:59,704 Speaker 1: and a lot of TikTokers or Instagrammers, and also people 398 00:17:59,704 --> 00:18:01,584 Speaker 1: who like write about fashion have business like I don't 399 00:18:01,584 --> 00:18:02,744 Speaker 1: want to I don't want to say that they're just 400 00:18:02,824 --> 00:18:05,064 Speaker 1: TikTokers or anything like that. Were saying that they had 401 00:18:05,064 --> 00:18:07,904 Speaker 1: been approved as delegates for fashion Week, but then because 402 00:18:07,944 --> 00:18:10,544 Speaker 1: the designers hadn't actually invited them to their show. Is 403 00:18:10,584 --> 00:18:12,464 Speaker 1: like a lot of them had flaw into Sydney and 404 00:18:12,544 --> 00:18:14,944 Speaker 1: paid their own way and then actually couldn't attend any 405 00:18:14,984 --> 00:18:17,864 Speaker 1: of the fashion week events. So this kind of block. Yeah, 406 00:18:17,904 --> 00:18:19,784 Speaker 1: So basically what you have there is a whole bunch 407 00:18:19,824 --> 00:18:21,864 Speaker 1: of people at the front of Carriage Works, which is 408 00:18:21,904 --> 00:18:25,824 Speaker 1: an open area, being interviewed by you know, different people 409 00:18:26,024 --> 00:18:28,744 Speaker 1: and taking photos. And that's where I think a lot 410 00:18:28,784 --> 00:18:30,464 Speaker 1: of eyes have been looking because that's where like a 411 00:18:30,464 --> 00:18:32,944 Speaker 1: little bit of the drama erupted and people loved drama. 412 00:18:33,064 --> 00:18:35,864 Speaker 1: One particular drama came it just stayed with me. Is like, 413 00:18:35,864 --> 00:18:39,904 Speaker 1: explain this. When a media outlet was asking different influencers 414 00:18:39,984 --> 00:18:42,624 Speaker 1: out the front of Fashion Week, who the micro trend 415 00:18:42,664 --> 00:18:43,544 Speaker 1: final boss is? 416 00:18:43,904 --> 00:18:44,824 Speaker 2: What does that even mean? 417 00:18:44,984 --> 00:18:45,304 Speaker 3: It means? 418 00:18:45,344 --> 00:18:46,424 Speaker 1: Am I explaining this to you? 419 00:18:46,504 --> 00:18:46,744 Speaker 3: Yeah? 420 00:18:46,944 --> 00:18:50,704 Speaker 2: What the micro So? I know, micro trend means like 421 00:18:51,384 --> 00:18:53,984 Speaker 2: a trend that's kind of just happening in the zeigeist 422 00:18:54,064 --> 00:18:55,784 Speaker 2: and then they'll be trendy for like a few months 423 00:18:55,784 --> 00:18:58,784 Speaker 2: and then we'll leave. Yeah, essentially, And I know people 424 00:18:58,784 --> 00:19:01,064 Speaker 2: hate that because of like fast fashion and things. Yeah. Yeah, 425 00:19:01,104 --> 00:19:04,864 Speaker 2: so micro trend final boss is that them trying to 426 00:19:04,904 --> 00:19:05,664 Speaker 2: ask people? 427 00:19:06,024 --> 00:19:09,064 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So micro trend final boss is who out 428 00:19:09,104 --> 00:19:12,224 Speaker 1: of kind of like the influence community. The undertone of 429 00:19:12,224 --> 00:19:14,104 Speaker 1: it is who doesn't have their own kind of personal 430 00:19:14,144 --> 00:19:16,344 Speaker 1: style and they just keep who jumps on like heaps 431 00:19:16,344 --> 00:19:19,224 Speaker 1: of micro trends and the end the kind of thing 432 00:19:19,344 --> 00:19:22,184 Speaker 1: is like fast fashion doesn't have your in sensive style, 433 00:19:22,304 --> 00:19:24,904 Speaker 1: jumps on any trend. And he watched the video, which 434 00:19:24,944 --> 00:19:26,544 Speaker 1: I do believe is taken down or at least it's 435 00:19:26,544 --> 00:19:28,784 Speaker 1: been removed to some feeds. Now you see a lot 436 00:19:28,784 --> 00:19:30,984 Speaker 1: of people go, I'm not answering that. I'm not answering that. 437 00:19:31,264 --> 00:19:34,024 Speaker 1: But then one person who did answer it was an 438 00:19:34,064 --> 00:19:38,584 Speaker 1: Australian stilist called Jamie as a Party who named TikToker 439 00:19:38,704 --> 00:19:41,704 Speaker 1: Sofa Dofa, who is obviously like a huge TikTok presence 440 00:19:41,744 --> 00:19:44,904 Speaker 1: in Australia, has over one point four million followers, and 441 00:19:44,944 --> 00:19:47,384 Speaker 1: that has kind of blown up. And even though Sofa 442 00:19:47,464 --> 00:19:50,704 Speaker 1: Dofa did like a big video explaining her experience in 443 00:19:50,704 --> 00:19:53,624 Speaker 1: Australian Fashion Week, which was quite negative, didn't directly name 444 00:19:53,704 --> 00:19:55,504 Speaker 1: this person. But that's how it's blown up. 445 00:19:55,824 --> 00:19:57,904 Speaker 4: I want to talk about the interviews. I always say 446 00:19:57,984 --> 00:19:59,424 Speaker 4: yes to the interviews just because I'm like it's a 447 00:19:59,464 --> 00:20:01,904 Speaker 4: bit of fun. It's like part of the experience, and 448 00:20:01,944 --> 00:20:04,104 Speaker 4: I'm always happy to answer some questions and I guess 449 00:20:04,104 --> 00:20:06,184 Speaker 4: it's like good exposure. Some of the questions I have 450 00:20:06,304 --> 00:20:08,504 Speaker 4: been asked this year and it's such just this, hear 451 00:20:08,544 --> 00:20:11,144 Speaker 4: like this has been last year as oh, like they 452 00:20:11,184 --> 00:20:13,384 Speaker 4: are diabolical. I want to preface that some of the 453 00:20:13,424 --> 00:20:15,384 Speaker 4: questions have been really good, so thank you to the 454 00:20:15,424 --> 00:20:19,464 Speaker 4: interviewers that actually had good questions prepared. But some of 455 00:20:19,464 --> 00:20:22,024 Speaker 4: the questions I got asked just I feel like we're appropriate, 456 00:20:22,104 --> 00:20:25,664 Speaker 4: feel like the interviewer's sole purpose this year especially is 457 00:20:25,784 --> 00:20:29,624 Speaker 4: just to catch people out with tricky questions that they 458 00:20:29,704 --> 00:20:32,504 Speaker 4: know they're going to get like juicy answers from Like yesterday, 459 00:20:32,504 --> 00:20:34,424 Speaker 4: I got asked how much they get paid or what's 460 00:20:34,424 --> 00:20:36,184 Speaker 4: like the biggest brand you left turned down and like 461 00:20:36,264 --> 00:20:38,144 Speaker 4: what the brand was and how much. It was like, 462 00:20:38,384 --> 00:20:40,144 Speaker 4: there's no way in hell I'm ever going to answer that. 463 00:20:40,184 --> 00:20:41,784 Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure if I answered that question then 464 00:20:41,824 --> 00:20:43,464 Speaker 4: turned around to the interviewer and said how much do 465 00:20:43,464 --> 00:20:44,864 Speaker 4: you get paid and how much do you get paid 466 00:20:45,104 --> 00:20:47,984 Speaker 4: to be he interviewing, I'm sure they would be uncomfortable 467 00:20:48,024 --> 00:20:51,504 Speaker 4: and probably wouldn't answer. I've just always grown up with, 468 00:20:51,824 --> 00:20:53,984 Speaker 4: like I've just been raising, you just don't ask people 469 00:20:54,184 --> 00:20:54,744 Speaker 4: about money. 470 00:20:54,824 --> 00:20:55,424 Speaker 1: You don't ask. 471 00:20:56,024 --> 00:20:57,664 Speaker 4: I don't know if that's wrong, but that's just how 472 00:20:57,704 --> 00:20:59,264 Speaker 4: I was raised. It is that you don't ask people 473 00:20:59,264 --> 00:21:01,744 Speaker 4: how much they make. And I feel like creators are 474 00:21:01,784 --> 00:21:04,784 Speaker 4: just expected to talk about it to be transparent. But 475 00:21:04,944 --> 00:21:07,824 Speaker 4: I just got like really uncomfortable, and I was like 476 00:21:07,904 --> 00:21:09,784 Speaker 4: shocked that someone would answer that. 477 00:21:09,944 --> 00:21:11,544 Speaker 1: Someone asked a bunch. 478 00:21:11,304 --> 00:21:15,224 Speaker 4: Of creators, who's the biggest micro trend? Final boss. First 479 00:21:15,264 --> 00:21:18,184 Speaker 4: of all, shit question, But you can see I don't 480 00:21:18,224 --> 00:21:19,864 Speaker 4: know how many people they ask, but you can see 481 00:21:20,064 --> 00:21:23,904 Speaker 4: almost everyone is uncomfortable and clearly doesn't want to answer that. 482 00:21:23,944 --> 00:21:25,824 Speaker 4: First of all, why are you even asking that? Like 483 00:21:25,904 --> 00:21:28,544 Speaker 4: we're an Australian fashion week, Let's ask which design is 484 00:21:28,584 --> 00:21:30,464 Speaker 4: you loving at the moment? Who's outfit here do you 485 00:21:30,464 --> 00:21:32,944 Speaker 4: love the most? If you could swelp with anyone's outfit here, 486 00:21:32,944 --> 00:21:35,264 Speaker 4: who would it be? What's your top three designers? What's 487 00:21:35,264 --> 00:21:37,944 Speaker 4: in your wish list? Like let's talk about fashion and 488 00:21:37,984 --> 00:21:40,784 Speaker 4: Australian fashion. If I was interview, I'd be asking who 489 00:21:40,784 --> 00:21:43,744 Speaker 4: are two of your top favorite small creators or small 490 00:21:44,024 --> 00:21:45,744 Speaker 4: brands so we can get their name out there, Like 491 00:21:45,784 --> 00:21:48,744 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be asking whose fashion sucks? Like that's just 492 00:21:48,784 --> 00:21:51,984 Speaker 4: a shit question anyway, So you can see everyone's visibly 493 00:21:52,024 --> 00:21:54,064 Speaker 4: like uncomfortable and doesn't want to answer it because you're 494 00:21:54,064 --> 00:21:56,784 Speaker 4: pretty much asking them to name a creator and like 495 00:21:56,864 --> 00:21:58,944 Speaker 4: call them out, and that's just not Like I feel 496 00:21:58,944 --> 00:22:02,704 Speaker 4: like the Australian influencer scene is already so toxic and 497 00:22:02,744 --> 00:22:05,344 Speaker 4: we have such big, like tall poppy syndrome, like we 498 00:22:05,384 --> 00:22:09,624 Speaker 4: don't need other creators bringing people down. So I got 499 00:22:09,704 --> 00:22:12,104 Speaker 4: named as one them by someone that will shan to 500 00:22:12,144 --> 00:22:16,144 Speaker 4: Australian Fashion Week, So not sure what that's about. I 501 00:22:16,184 --> 00:22:18,224 Speaker 4: just feel like, right Australian Fashion Week, let's bring a 502 00:22:18,304 --> 00:22:21,584 Speaker 4: positive light to fashion and ask interesting questions and get 503 00:22:21,584 --> 00:22:23,744 Speaker 4: people's opinion on fashions, like what trends are we loving 504 00:22:23,744 --> 00:22:26,064 Speaker 4: at the moment, what designers are we loving? But show 505 00:22:26,144 --> 00:22:27,264 Speaker 4: we most excited to see. 506 00:22:27,464 --> 00:22:30,784 Speaker 2: Firstly, I feel so bad for her. She's literally just 507 00:22:30,864 --> 00:22:33,904 Speaker 2: copying strays from not doing anything, like yeah, just literally 508 00:22:34,264 --> 00:22:37,304 Speaker 2: that video went viral of someone just slamming her basically, 509 00:22:37,784 --> 00:22:40,464 Speaker 2: but also it's so true. I feel like when it 510 00:22:40,544 --> 00:22:44,304 Speaker 2: comes to influencers and creators, they're still not seen as 511 00:22:44,344 --> 00:22:46,824 Speaker 2: a quote unquote real job. So I feel like people 512 00:22:46,864 --> 00:22:49,624 Speaker 2: have agency to ask them whatever they feel like they 513 00:22:49,664 --> 00:22:52,224 Speaker 2: can ask them. But it's exactly what she said, Like 514 00:22:52,264 --> 00:22:54,424 Speaker 2: things like asking about how much money do you make, 515 00:22:54,504 --> 00:22:58,264 Speaker 2: like what's your salary is quite an invasive question to ask, 516 00:22:58,784 --> 00:23:02,224 Speaker 2: especially at an event that has nothing to do with it. Yeah, 517 00:23:02,264 --> 00:23:04,264 Speaker 2: And at the same time, I feel like if you're 518 00:23:04,304 --> 00:23:06,984 Speaker 2: going to be asking those kind of questions, you should 519 00:23:06,984 --> 00:23:08,904 Speaker 2: only be able to ask questions that you're willing to 520 00:23:08,944 --> 00:23:10,024 Speaker 2: answer yourself. 521 00:23:10,064 --> 00:23:12,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I guess that, like, how much money 522 00:23:12,104 --> 00:23:14,104 Speaker 1: do you make as a creator? Like that question has 523 00:23:14,144 --> 00:23:16,104 Speaker 1: been around for a really long time, and I think 524 00:23:16,144 --> 00:23:18,744 Speaker 1: the basis of that question is from when that was 525 00:23:18,784 --> 00:23:20,824 Speaker 1: still such a kind of a new industry and people 526 00:23:20,824 --> 00:23:22,784 Speaker 1: were quite an awe that you could even make money 527 00:23:22,864 --> 00:23:25,144 Speaker 1: from it. But now I do feel like, you know, 528 00:23:25,184 --> 00:23:27,064 Speaker 1: you kind of just assume that any creator who is 529 00:23:27,104 --> 00:23:29,624 Speaker 1: a full time person and has millions of followers is 530 00:23:29,664 --> 00:23:32,384 Speaker 1: making quite a lot. But obviously you always want to 531 00:23:32,384 --> 00:23:34,344 Speaker 1: know the inner workings of someone's life. So I totally 532 00:23:34,384 --> 00:23:36,504 Speaker 1: understand when people have asked that question, and then I 533 00:23:36,544 --> 00:23:39,984 Speaker 1: also understand how upsetting it was for some people who 534 00:23:39,984 --> 00:23:42,424 Speaker 1: were on the ground. So Jamie as a Party did 535 00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:44,904 Speaker 1: an interview with news dot com after all of this 536 00:23:45,064 --> 00:23:47,984 Speaker 1: blew up, and they were asked about the Sofa Dopha question. 537 00:23:48,064 --> 00:23:51,464 Speaker 1: They said, I misunderstood the question of micro whatever it was. 538 00:23:51,544 --> 00:23:54,104 Speaker 1: I didn't understand the term. I said, Sofa Dofa is 539 00:23:54,144 --> 00:23:56,424 Speaker 1: a boss. I don't really understand her fashion, but from 540 00:23:56,424 --> 00:23:59,024 Speaker 1: what she's created, she can wear a loofer and still 541 00:23:59,024 --> 00:23:59,784 Speaker 1: look flawless. 542 00:24:00,064 --> 00:24:02,664 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought, Like, I actually didn't understand 543 00:24:02,664 --> 00:24:04,624 Speaker 2: the question. Yeah, and if you were going to approach 544 00:24:04,704 --> 00:24:07,544 Speaker 2: me with like a camera and a microphone, I'd completely 545 00:24:07,544 --> 00:24:08,184 Speaker 2: say the wrong thing. 546 00:24:08,384 --> 00:24:10,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have been in this. You'd be shutting 547 00:24:10,184 --> 00:24:11,584 Speaker 1: down your TikTok account. 548 00:24:11,304 --> 00:24:13,704 Speaker 2: And oh my god, I'd be like naming everyone what 549 00:24:13,784 --> 00:24:14,304 Speaker 2: I thought. 550 00:24:14,064 --> 00:24:15,504 Speaker 1: Was quite funny and like sometimes you just have to 551 00:24:15,504 --> 00:24:17,784 Speaker 1: see the funny side of this Again. I understand people 552 00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:20,904 Speaker 1: were upset because they couldn't get into events. I also 553 00:24:21,024 --> 00:24:23,544 Speaker 1: understand the diversity this year is it just seemed like a. 554 00:24:23,544 --> 00:24:25,344 Speaker 2: Really can I say it? It just seemed like a 555 00:24:25,384 --> 00:24:27,824 Speaker 2: really shitty experience for a lot of people. 556 00:24:28,944 --> 00:24:31,024 Speaker 1: To an extent, I mean, there's a lot of fashion 557 00:24:31,024 --> 00:24:33,944 Speaker 1: writers I follow who don't have like huge social presences 558 00:24:33,984 --> 00:24:36,104 Speaker 1: but were just kind of like reporting on it, and 559 00:24:36,264 --> 00:24:38,224 Speaker 1: I guess that's just a week at work for them. 560 00:24:38,264 --> 00:24:40,224 Speaker 1: So seeing what they were saying in terms of like 561 00:24:40,584 --> 00:24:42,344 Speaker 1: they were seeing a lot of like the new generation 562 00:24:42,424 --> 00:24:45,584 Speaker 1: designers coming through and that was incredible. Their first Nations 563 00:24:45,624 --> 00:24:48,584 Speaker 1: designers and their shows were incredible. There were stylists there 564 00:24:48,584 --> 00:24:51,464 Speaker 1: who would put together like these like amazing looks, and 565 00:24:51,584 --> 00:24:53,144 Speaker 1: I think there were there was a side of it 566 00:24:53,184 --> 00:24:56,304 Speaker 1: that we were just not seeing because it's not the 567 00:24:56,304 --> 00:24:58,544 Speaker 1: more public side where there was like a lot of 568 00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:01,624 Speaker 1: creativity and like celebration of Australian fashion. But I think 569 00:25:01,624 --> 00:25:03,984 Speaker 1: the diversity thing for a lot of people because a 570 00:25:03,984 --> 00:25:06,144 Speaker 1: few years ago there was a Curve runway and this 571 00:25:06,304 --> 00:25:09,504 Speaker 1: year Curve creators like there were just barely any on 572 00:25:09,544 --> 00:25:12,544 Speaker 1: the runways of like Curve models, and then barely any 573 00:25:12,584 --> 00:25:15,184 Speaker 1: invited to events, and a lot of people were saying 574 00:25:15,184 --> 00:25:17,584 Speaker 1: too that they weren't also getting photographed for all of 575 00:25:17,624 --> 00:25:22,104 Speaker 1: like the best street style looks at Australian Fashion Week. 576 00:25:22,144 --> 00:25:22,904 Speaker 1: So it's like ten. 577 00:25:24,664 --> 00:25:27,744 Speaker 2: Being photographed for no not being photo Like imagine being 578 00:25:27,744 --> 00:25:30,184 Speaker 2: invited and then putting so much time and effort and 579 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:34,024 Speaker 2: thought into your outfit, especially if you are going there, 580 00:25:34,064 --> 00:25:36,904 Speaker 2: because there's so many creators who felt like that they 581 00:25:37,544 --> 00:25:40,624 Speaker 2: were like part of a tiny bit of representation. Yeah, 582 00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:42,744 Speaker 2: and they felt like they had to go to actually 583 00:25:42,744 --> 00:25:46,464 Speaker 2: show like representation during this week and then putting all 584 00:25:46,464 --> 00:25:47,864 Speaker 2: that time and e f in your outfit and then 585 00:25:48,024 --> 00:25:49,504 Speaker 2: just like no one even bothering. 586 00:25:49,624 --> 00:25:51,624 Speaker 1: I alway saw so many people saying like, hey, so 587 00:25:51,704 --> 00:25:53,664 Speaker 1: no one took my photo Astrange Fashion Week, or no 588 00:25:53,704 --> 00:25:55,624 Speaker 1: one's posted it if they did, so here it is. 589 00:25:55,744 --> 00:25:57,144 Speaker 1: And I guess the thing about that is like, and 590 00:25:57,184 --> 00:25:59,344 Speaker 1: you're probably the saying, like, we've curated our feeds, so 591 00:25:59,424 --> 00:26:01,624 Speaker 1: we follow a lot of those people organically. So I 592 00:26:01,744 --> 00:26:03,224 Speaker 1: was saying it all, but I wasn't seeing it on 593 00:26:03,264 --> 00:26:05,584 Speaker 1: their main pages. But I guess it's just a sign 594 00:26:05,584 --> 00:26:07,664 Speaker 1: of kind of like how things are going to kind 595 00:26:07,664 --> 00:26:09,784 Speaker 1: of just take the lighter side of it, Like sometimes 596 00:26:09,824 --> 00:26:11,104 Speaker 1: you just have to do that, you know how, Like 597 00:26:11,184 --> 00:26:13,464 Speaker 1: the internet just takes something and runs with it. So 598 00:26:13,624 --> 00:26:17,544 Speaker 1: we were seeing this huge blot between different influencers having 599 00:26:17,584 --> 00:26:19,464 Speaker 1: you know, over who's a micro boss or not. Then 600 00:26:19,464 --> 00:26:22,584 Speaker 1: you see all these interviews coming out where influencers are 601 00:26:22,624 --> 00:26:25,304 Speaker 1: like all TikTokers or fashion people are looking like really 602 00:26:25,744 --> 00:26:28,544 Speaker 1: stressed behind the camera over all the photos they're asking. 603 00:26:28,584 --> 00:26:30,704 Speaker 1: And then people started going down there and like filming 604 00:26:30,744 --> 00:26:34,104 Speaker 1: parodies or just filming parodies at home. That was so funny. No, 605 00:26:34,184 --> 00:26:35,544 Speaker 1: you need to have seen this on TikTok. I was 606 00:26:35,624 --> 00:26:37,424 Speaker 1: laughing because you have to approach, just have to laugh, Yeah, 607 00:26:37,424 --> 00:26:39,464 Speaker 1: what's happening? And they were just like, yeah, so, oh 608 00:26:39,504 --> 00:26:41,184 Speaker 1: my god, you look amazing. I'd love to get your 609 00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:42,544 Speaker 1: outfit if you can just hold the smike and I 610 00:26:42,544 --> 00:26:44,464 Speaker 1: can ask you one quick question. Do you think like 611 00:26:44,544 --> 00:26:47,464 Speaker 1: sofa doverish, like little die, Like what do you think? Oh, 612 00:26:47,504 --> 00:26:50,664 Speaker 1: they'd be like there's like a parody of what's happening, 613 00:26:50,824 --> 00:26:52,104 Speaker 1: or you'd see people go down there and be like 614 00:26:52,104 --> 00:26:53,584 Speaker 1: and they're not doing this to real people. But it 615 00:26:53,624 --> 00:26:55,064 Speaker 1: was just like in terms of like just making like 616 00:26:55,104 --> 00:26:56,944 Speaker 1: a mockery of it and going there and being like, 617 00:26:56,984 --> 00:26:58,864 Speaker 1: oh my god, Hi, so who's best stress? Like who 618 00:26:58,864 --> 00:27:00,744 Speaker 1: do you think should be hit by car? And it's like, 619 00:27:01,024 --> 00:27:02,784 Speaker 1: I know that these are meant to be the parodies, 620 00:27:02,824 --> 00:27:04,624 Speaker 1: but some of them are not that different to the 621 00:27:04,704 --> 00:27:08,984 Speaker 1: actual questions that are being asked. So yeah, just just 622 00:27:09,024 --> 00:27:12,624 Speaker 1: a bit of a wild time. It looked so good though, Yeah. 623 00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:15,584 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh for everyone who's saying, like I saw 624 00:27:15,664 --> 00:27:19,144 Speaker 2: so many takes before Australian Fashion Week of people going 625 00:27:19,184 --> 00:27:21,304 Speaker 2: why is Australian Fashion Week still a thing? Like everyone 626 00:27:21,344 --> 00:27:25,424 Speaker 2: plays it's so safe. Some of the outforts were incredible. 627 00:27:24,744 --> 00:27:26,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, they really were. And I actually felt like really 628 00:27:26,824 --> 00:27:29,904 Speaker 1: kind of weirdly inspired just watching a lot of it. 629 00:27:30,184 --> 00:27:32,104 Speaker 1: I Mean, a fun factor about me is that before 630 00:27:32,984 --> 00:27:35,104 Speaker 1: before I started Muma mea. I had a stint as 631 00:27:35,144 --> 00:27:35,944 Speaker 1: a fashion journalist. 632 00:27:35,944 --> 00:27:36,224 Speaker 3: I don't know. 633 00:27:36,264 --> 00:27:38,304 Speaker 1: I was trying to buy myself and I went to 634 00:27:38,624 --> 00:27:41,584 Speaker 1: found myself at Australian Fashion Week, and I'm gonna say, 635 00:27:41,624 --> 00:27:43,864 Speaker 1: like that creative side of it and like into une 636 00:27:43,904 --> 00:27:45,704 Speaker 1: creative people I loved, which is how I found my 637 00:27:45,744 --> 00:27:48,744 Speaker 1: way into entertainment journalism. But I have to say this 638 00:27:48,824 --> 00:27:50,944 Speaker 1: is before I moved to Sydney that working in Australian 639 00:27:50,944 --> 00:27:53,264 Speaker 1: Fashion Week. It's the first time I was like, oh 640 00:27:53,264 --> 00:27:55,744 Speaker 1: my god, mean girls aren't like those really fancy mean girls. 641 00:27:55,784 --> 00:27:57,904 Speaker 1: They're not just in the movie like they're real. They're 642 00:27:57,944 --> 00:27:59,664 Speaker 1: real and they walk the streets of Sydney and they're 643 00:27:59,664 --> 00:28:03,344 Speaker 1: backstage at fashion Week and they're so mean. Not everyone, obviously, 644 00:28:03,344 --> 00:28:05,024 Speaker 1: on everyone. I know a lot of lovely people in 645 00:28:05,064 --> 00:28:07,184 Speaker 1: the industry. It's like anything you find little pockets. But 646 00:28:07,384 --> 00:28:11,104 Speaker 1: if you want to be humbled, go to and meet 647 00:28:11,104 --> 00:28:13,664 Speaker 1: the fashion girlies whose parents are paying for them to 648 00:28:13,664 --> 00:28:15,664 Speaker 1: be there and be at their jobs. What a time. 649 00:28:15,784 --> 00:28:18,304 Speaker 1: But overall, yeah, I think there was you know, influenced 650 00:28:18,384 --> 00:28:20,664 Speaker 1: drama aside, a lot of good things from Australian Fashion Week. 651 00:28:20,664 --> 00:28:21,784 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, though We're just 652 00:28:21,824 --> 00:28:22,864 Speaker 1: looking for some drama. 653 00:28:22,944 --> 00:28:25,384 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 654 00:28:25,464 --> 00:28:27,664 Speaker 2: Do not forget to follow us on TikTok at the 655 00:28:27,704 --> 00:28:31,184 Speaker 2: Spill podcast. The Spill is produced by Sashatanic, which sound 656 00:28:31,184 --> 00:28:33,184 Speaker 2: production by Scott Stronik. And we'll be back here on 657 00:28:33,224 --> 00:28:41,264 Speaker 2: your podcast speed at three pm tomorrow. Bye Lan.