1 00:00:06,415 --> 00:00:10,375 Speaker 1: You're listening to a'moma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:11,935 --> 00:00:14,775 Speaker 2: Hi. I'm Ailish Delaney with the latest from the Quickie 3 00:00:14,775 --> 00:00:19,375 Speaker 2: news room for Friday, February thirteen. Angus Taylor is the 4 00:00:19,415 --> 00:00:23,215 Speaker 2: new leader of the Liberal Party following a successful leadership spill. 5 00:00:23,295 --> 00:00:27,655 Speaker 2: This morning. The party's first female leader, Susan Lee, expressed 6 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:30,895 Speaker 2: her gratitude and announced she will resign after losing the 7 00:00:30,975 --> 00:00:33,255 Speaker 2: leadership ballot thirty four to seventeen. 8 00:00:33,854 --> 00:00:36,495 Speaker 1: I leave it for others to judge this period of 9 00:00:36,534 --> 00:00:40,575 Speaker 1: my leadership now and with the passing of time. 10 00:00:41,495 --> 00:00:43,574 Speaker 3: While I'm sure plenty. 11 00:00:43,254 --> 00:00:46,775 Speaker 1: Of people you'll have plenty to say, I've never sought 12 00:00:46,854 --> 00:00:49,055 Speaker 1: to influence what other people. 13 00:00:48,775 --> 00:00:49,334 Speaker 3: Think of me. 14 00:00:50,015 --> 00:00:53,134 Speaker 2: Taylor. Strano is joined by a chief political analyst at 15 00:00:53,135 --> 00:00:56,695 Speaker 2: the Australia Institute and contributing editor at the new daily, 16 00:00:57,095 --> 00:00:58,535 Speaker 2: Amy Ramakers for more. 17 00:00:59,015 --> 00:01:02,014 Speaker 4: The results have come in. The Liberal Party have spoken, 18 00:01:02,135 --> 00:01:06,255 Speaker 4: they have a new leader. But for the average who 19 00:01:06,295 --> 00:01:09,855 Speaker 4: isn't following politics like maybe you are ya every single day, 20 00:01:10,215 --> 00:01:12,535 Speaker 4: can you give us a bit of a dossier on 21 00:01:12,655 --> 00:01:15,095 Speaker 4: who Angus Taylor, the new Liberal leader actually is. 22 00:01:15,455 --> 00:01:15,575 Speaker 3: So. 23 00:01:15,615 --> 00:01:19,415 Speaker 1: Angus Taylor was elected in twenty thirteen and he very 24 00:01:19,495 --> 00:01:24,015 Speaker 1: quickly established himself as a future leadership contender and even 25 00:01:24,055 --> 00:01:27,215 Speaker 1: if the rest of the party didn't agree. Angus Taylor 26 00:01:27,295 --> 00:01:29,895 Speaker 1: has always been a very big fan of Angus Taylor, 27 00:01:30,015 --> 00:01:32,815 Speaker 1: and he absolutely believed that he would get to this 28 00:01:32,855 --> 00:01:36,935 Speaker 1: position of leading the Liberal Party and indeed becoming a 29 00:01:37,055 --> 00:01:41,175 Speaker 1: Liberal Prime minister. He's a Rhodes Scholar, which means that 30 00:01:41,255 --> 00:01:46,255 Speaker 1: he's gone through the same education as Tony Abbott. He 31 00:01:46,335 --> 00:01:49,895 Speaker 1: comes from quite a wealthy family and has continued all 32 00:01:49,935 --> 00:01:55,255 Speaker 1: of those business dealings. But he's also known within politics 33 00:01:55,295 --> 00:01:59,375 Speaker 1: for the number of gaffes that he makes, so he 34 00:01:59,615 --> 00:02:03,255 Speaker 1: has been instrumental or the architect for some of the 35 00:02:03,655 --> 00:02:08,454 Speaker 1: Liberal Party's most infamous policies. Most recently, he helped design 36 00:02:08,575 --> 00:02:11,975 Speaker 1: the scrapping work at home policy, which lost the Liberals 37 00:02:12,055 --> 00:02:15,454 Speaker 1: votes at the last election. He helped design the Ray's 38 00:02:15,535 --> 00:02:19,375 Speaker 1: income tax policy, which helped the Liberals lose votes at 39 00:02:19,375 --> 00:02:23,255 Speaker 1: the last election. When he was Energy Minister, he pushed 40 00:02:23,295 --> 00:02:27,215 Speaker 1: for an end to net zero. He has been against 41 00:02:27,335 --> 00:02:32,135 Speaker 1: quotas he has been against any sort of a social 42 00:02:32,215 --> 00:02:36,775 Speaker 1: progressive movements, and he really tries to paint himself as 43 00:02:36,855 --> 00:02:40,375 Speaker 1: a sensible liberal, but what he means by that is 44 00:02:40,415 --> 00:02:45,695 Speaker 1: that he is an economic conservative, so he wants small government. 45 00:02:46,055 --> 00:02:50,415 Speaker 1: He wants eventually, you know, to cut taxes, particularly when 46 00:02:50,495 --> 00:02:53,055 Speaker 1: it comes to richer people. He was one of the 47 00:02:53,175 --> 00:02:57,175 Speaker 1: Liberal MPs who was very against Labour's rejig of the 48 00:02:57,215 --> 00:03:00,495 Speaker 1: Stage three tax cuts. He wanted it to remain essentially 49 00:03:00,855 --> 00:03:03,255 Speaker 1: so that the people who were earning the most money 50 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:06,775 Speaker 1: got the highest tax cuts. And he really has been 51 00:03:06,815 --> 00:03:10,454 Speaker 1: pushing the Liberal Party to go back to John Howard 52 00:03:10,775 --> 00:03:14,255 Speaker 1: values and now that he will be leading the Liberal Party, 53 00:03:14,575 --> 00:03:17,295 Speaker 1: that is pretty much what he's going to concentrate on. 54 00:03:17,735 --> 00:03:21,135 Speaker 4: So I guess leading up to this Liberal leadership spill, 55 00:03:21,495 --> 00:03:23,655 Speaker 4: it was really a case of him just saying I 56 00:03:23,655 --> 00:03:25,815 Speaker 4: think I'd be better at the job than Susan Lee. 57 00:03:25,935 --> 00:03:28,095 Speaker 4: Look what she's done in the last nine months or 58 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:31,775 Speaker 4: lack thereof. So what does he now need to prove, 59 00:03:31,935 --> 00:03:34,535 Speaker 4: not only within the party but to us as the 60 00:03:34,575 --> 00:03:37,575 Speaker 4: Australian public. What does he kind of come out and 61 00:03:37,615 --> 00:03:39,415 Speaker 4: say like, this is why I'm going to be better. 62 00:03:40,135 --> 00:03:43,135 Speaker 1: He hasn't really articulated what he's going to do that 63 00:03:43,255 --> 00:03:45,695 Speaker 1: is different to Susan Lee. And he doesn't need to 64 00:03:45,735 --> 00:03:49,135 Speaker 1: prove himself within the party room because the party room 65 00:03:49,375 --> 00:03:54,335 Speaker 1: is a mostly conservative Liberal Party room. Anyway, it's mostly 66 00:03:54,375 --> 00:03:57,655 Speaker 1: been Angus Taylor's own personality that has stopped him from 67 00:03:57,695 --> 00:04:01,695 Speaker 1: getting the leadership in in previous versions of the Liberal Party, 68 00:04:01,775 --> 00:04:04,695 Speaker 1: so there's no real proof there in terms of what 69 00:04:04,735 --> 00:04:07,495 Speaker 1: he needs to do to win voters. The Liberal Party 70 00:04:07,495 --> 00:04:10,975 Speaker 1: at the last two elections has gone backwards. Its polling 71 00:04:11,215 --> 00:04:14,375 Speaker 1: is in the absolute pits, and we know that they've 72 00:04:14,415 --> 00:04:17,695 Speaker 1: lost women voters, we know that they've lost younger voters. 73 00:04:17,775 --> 00:04:20,854 Speaker 1: We know that they're not winning back voters in the cities, 74 00:04:21,175 --> 00:04:23,575 Speaker 1: which is what they would need to do if they 75 00:04:23,575 --> 00:04:26,735 Speaker 1: were to have any sort of pathway to government. And 76 00:04:26,855 --> 00:04:31,415 Speaker 1: Angus Taylor hasn't shown any indication that he's going to 77 00:04:31,735 --> 00:04:34,695 Speaker 1: arrest the slide in women voters, that he's going to 78 00:04:34,935 --> 00:04:37,655 Speaker 1: arrest the slide in the youth, or that he even 79 00:04:37,855 --> 00:04:40,575 Speaker 1: wants to win back those inner city seats that you 80 00:04:40,615 --> 00:04:43,654 Speaker 1: would have to win to have some sort of pathway 81 00:04:43,775 --> 00:04:47,455 Speaker 1: back to government. He wants to continue taking the Liberal 82 00:04:47,495 --> 00:04:50,255 Speaker 1: Party on the path that was set by Scott Morrison 83 00:04:50,295 --> 00:04:53,815 Speaker 1: and Peter Dutton and continued by Susan Lee, which is 84 00:04:53,855 --> 00:04:58,015 Speaker 1: trying to outflank one nation, which means going further to 85 00:04:58,255 --> 00:05:01,215 Speaker 1: the right, but just sort of dressing it up in 86 00:05:01,255 --> 00:05:02,855 Speaker 1: slightly fancy or packaging. 87 00:05:03,295 --> 00:05:06,135 Speaker 4: I want to touch on one nation again a moment, 88 00:05:06,175 --> 00:05:09,735 Speaker 4: but very quickly. As Susan Lee is ousted today and 89 00:05:09,775 --> 00:05:12,415 Speaker 4: Angus Taylor comes in as the new leader, there's also 90 00:05:12,495 --> 00:05:15,974 Speaker 4: a new deputy leader in Jane Hume. Now she is 91 00:05:16,095 --> 00:05:19,815 Speaker 4: flagged as a more moderate in the Liberal Party. Angus 92 00:05:19,815 --> 00:05:23,335 Speaker 4: Taylor obviously on that more conservative faction. Is that something 93 00:05:23,335 --> 00:05:25,055 Speaker 4: that we would expect to see sort of as a 94 00:05:25,135 --> 00:05:27,855 Speaker 4: check in balance When you have one faction in the lead, 95 00:05:27,975 --> 00:05:30,174 Speaker 4: you have another in the deputy position. 96 00:05:30,735 --> 00:05:33,534 Speaker 1: All political parties do this. Labor does this. If you 97 00:05:33,575 --> 00:05:36,255 Speaker 1: have a Labor left in the leadership, then you have 98 00:05:36,335 --> 00:05:39,135 Speaker 1: a labor right in the deputy position. And the Liberals 99 00:05:39,175 --> 00:05:42,815 Speaker 1: are no different. And it's usually the more moderate in 100 00:05:42,855 --> 00:05:45,975 Speaker 1: the Liberal Party who gets the deputy position. That's kind 101 00:05:46,015 --> 00:05:48,455 Speaker 1: of always been the way that it is. It's also 102 00:05:48,575 --> 00:05:50,695 Speaker 1: not the first time that they've had, you know, a 103 00:05:50,695 --> 00:05:53,495 Speaker 1: woman deputy leader. They've done it with Julie Bishop, they 104 00:05:53,535 --> 00:05:56,455 Speaker 1: did it with Susan Lee, and now they're doing it 105 00:05:56,495 --> 00:05:59,935 Speaker 1: with Jane Hume, who has worked very closely with Angus Taylor. 106 00:06:00,015 --> 00:06:04,615 Speaker 1: When the Liberals were in government in the Finance portfolio, 107 00:06:04,655 --> 00:06:07,815 Speaker 1: and she also so takes ownership of some of the 108 00:06:07,855 --> 00:06:10,895 Speaker 1: Liberal's worst economic policies that they took to the twenty 109 00:06:10,935 --> 00:06:11,974 Speaker 1: twenty five election. 110 00:06:12,575 --> 00:06:16,094 Speaker 4: Amy Susan Lee has ultimately decided today, off the back 111 00:06:16,135 --> 00:06:19,015 Speaker 4: of losing the leadership, that she will resign. She'll step 112 00:06:19,015 --> 00:06:21,775 Speaker 4: away from politics, which of course will trigger a by 113 00:06:21,895 --> 00:06:26,015 Speaker 4: election in her seat of ferr I am sure the 114 00:06:26,055 --> 00:06:30,215 Speaker 4: Liberal Party will contest this seat, but a lot of 115 00:06:30,255 --> 00:06:33,655 Speaker 4: people are paying attention to one nation. Obviously, they've had 116 00:06:33,695 --> 00:06:36,414 Speaker 4: that massive surgeon popularity in the polls. Will this be 117 00:06:36,495 --> 00:06:40,255 Speaker 4: the real first test if that popularity will translate to 118 00:06:40,375 --> 00:06:41,695 Speaker 4: actually getting more seats. 119 00:06:41,855 --> 00:06:42,095 Speaker 3: Oh? 120 00:06:42,135 --> 00:06:45,095 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I was talking about this in the days 121 00:06:45,175 --> 00:06:47,895 Speaker 1: leading up to the leadership challenge that if Susan Lee lost, 122 00:06:47,935 --> 00:06:50,135 Speaker 1: she would spark a by election and it would be 123 00:06:50,255 --> 00:06:54,255 Speaker 1: very difficult for the coalition, either the Liberals or the Nationals, 124 00:06:54,255 --> 00:06:58,015 Speaker 1: because there's contenson within the coalition over who even gets 125 00:06:58,055 --> 00:07:00,455 Speaker 1: to run in the seat. It was a National seat 126 00:07:00,495 --> 00:07:03,615 Speaker 1: before Susan Lee won it as a Liberal, and that's 127 00:07:03,655 --> 00:07:06,055 Speaker 1: been a long term fight that the Coalition have never 128 00:07:06,295 --> 00:07:09,775 Speaker 1: truly gotten over whether or not that the coalition would 129 00:07:09,775 --> 00:07:12,295 Speaker 1: be able to hold this seat, and it's not just 130 00:07:12,415 --> 00:07:17,495 Speaker 1: One Nation in Farah. The independent, the Community Independent candidate 131 00:07:17,695 --> 00:07:22,095 Speaker 1: who ran at the last election, reduced Susan Lee's margin 132 00:07:22,215 --> 00:07:27,055 Speaker 1: by ten points. She won twenty percent of the primary vote, 133 00:07:27,175 --> 00:07:29,975 Speaker 1: and she took Susan Lee's margin from about sixteen and 134 00:07:29,975 --> 00:07:32,415 Speaker 1: a half, which you would say is quite safe in 135 00:07:32,455 --> 00:07:34,375 Speaker 1: a time where there's no such thing as a safe 136 00:07:34,375 --> 00:07:37,815 Speaker 1: seat to about six and a half percent. Given One 137 00:07:37,935 --> 00:07:42,935 Speaker 1: Nation's surge and the ongoing popularity of Community Independence in 138 00:07:42,975 --> 00:07:45,975 Speaker 1: that seat, there was a recent meeting ahead of any 139 00:07:45,975 --> 00:07:49,175 Speaker 1: of this leadership speculation where you saw about one thousand 140 00:07:49,255 --> 00:07:52,255 Speaker 1: people turn up to hear about you know, what an 141 00:07:52,295 --> 00:07:56,135 Speaker 1: independent campaign might look like at the next election. So 142 00:07:56,255 --> 00:07:59,775 Speaker 1: given that there is already a lot of vote interest 143 00:08:00,175 --> 00:08:03,935 Speaker 1: in what independence and One Nation who in twenty twenty 144 00:08:03,975 --> 00:08:06,935 Speaker 1: five polled at about six and a half percent in 145 00:08:06,975 --> 00:08:10,655 Speaker 1: Pharah and will continue to capitalize on this search that 146 00:08:10,655 --> 00:08:14,095 Speaker 1: they're seeing, it will be very difficult for the coalition 147 00:08:14,495 --> 00:08:17,615 Speaker 1: to hold that seat, which will be one of the 148 00:08:17,615 --> 00:08:20,215 Speaker 1: first tests for Angus Taylor and I would not be 149 00:08:20,295 --> 00:08:23,535 Speaker 1: surprised if Susan Lee decided as a little bit of 150 00:08:23,615 --> 00:08:26,975 Speaker 1: vengeance for the way that her leadership was handled, that 151 00:08:27,055 --> 00:08:30,415 Speaker 1: she doesn't leave immediately, that she drags out when she's 152 00:08:30,455 --> 00:08:33,255 Speaker 1: going to resign. Let Angus Taylor settle in to the 153 00:08:33,334 --> 00:08:37,015 Speaker 1: leadership a little bit more and then resigned sometime around 154 00:08:37,054 --> 00:08:40,255 Speaker 1: when Labor will be doing its first budget, so that 155 00:08:40,335 --> 00:08:44,095 Speaker 1: it clouds that part of what Angus Taylor sees as 156 00:08:44,135 --> 00:08:46,775 Speaker 1: one of his strengths. He's going to have to spend 157 00:08:46,815 --> 00:08:49,575 Speaker 1: a lot of time defending Parah and making sure that 158 00:08:49,615 --> 00:08:52,175 Speaker 1: the coalition hold onto a seat that is going to 159 00:08:52,215 --> 00:08:55,375 Speaker 1: be very difficult in this electoral sense to hold onto. 160 00:08:56,295 --> 00:09:00,095 Speaker 2: The behavior of police officers will be investigated after they punched, 161 00:09:00,215 --> 00:09:04,495 Speaker 2: shaft and purpose brayed people protesting against the Israeli president's visit. 162 00:09:05,495 --> 00:09:08,095 Speaker 2: By the Way it was Police Watchdog on Friday announced 163 00:09:08,095 --> 00:09:11,335 Speaker 2: it was in the public interest to investigate police actions 164 00:09:11,335 --> 00:09:14,655 Speaker 2: at a protest at Sydney Town Hall on Monday, including 165 00:09:14,695 --> 00:09:18,695 Speaker 2: incidents of alleged misconduct. The police response at the rally 166 00:09:18,735 --> 00:09:22,855 Speaker 2: triggered widespread outrage after officers appeared to use force to 167 00:09:22,895 --> 00:09:26,495 Speaker 2: disperse a crowd of thousands of people protesting against Isaac 168 00:09:26,575 --> 00:09:30,295 Speaker 2: Herzog's four day Australian tour It comes as it's been 169 00:09:30,335 --> 00:09:33,895 Speaker 2: confirmed a lack of communication between police contributed to the 170 00:09:33,935 --> 00:09:37,454 Speaker 2: disruption of a group of Muslim worshippers who were dragged 171 00:09:37,495 --> 00:09:41,295 Speaker 2: away by officers while performing the sunset prayer at the protest. 172 00:09:41,895 --> 00:09:44,855 Speaker 2: Police have confirmed a senior officer had agreed to let 173 00:09:44,935 --> 00:09:48,375 Speaker 2: the praying finish before moving the men on. However, the 174 00:09:48,415 --> 00:09:51,375 Speaker 2: message wasn't passed on to other officers who were carrying 175 00:09:51,415 --> 00:09:55,455 Speaker 2: out the direction. Police Commissioner mal Lanyon is still offering 176 00:09:55,495 --> 00:09:59,015 Speaker 2: a qualified apology, saying the move on direction was not 177 00:09:59,054 --> 00:10:03,575 Speaker 2: targeting any religion. Premier Chris Mins has repeatedly refused to 178 00:10:03,655 --> 00:10:07,095 Speaker 2: apologize for the actions of police at the protest, providing 179 00:10:07,135 --> 00:10:11,375 Speaker 2: steadfast backing of officers. The Health Style rating system looks 180 00:10:11,375 --> 00:10:14,655 Speaker 2: set to become mandatory on all packaged foods in Australia 181 00:10:14,975 --> 00:10:19,015 Speaker 2: after ministers agreed the voluntary system was not working. The 182 00:10:19,095 --> 00:10:22,775 Speaker 2: latest monitoring report confirms the food industry failed to meet 183 00:10:22,815 --> 00:10:26,295 Speaker 2: its target of voluntarily applying the raiding labels to seventy 184 00:10:26,335 --> 00:10:29,495 Speaker 2: percent of packaged food and drink products by November twenty 185 00:10:29,495 --> 00:10:32,655 Speaker 2: twenty five, with uptake at just thirty nine percent in 186 00:10:32,695 --> 00:10:36,535 Speaker 2: Australia and thirty six percent in New Zealand. The nation's 187 00:10:36,535 --> 00:10:39,735 Speaker 2: food ministers today voted in favor of asking the food 188 00:10:39,815 --> 00:10:43,015 Speaker 2: regulator to develop a formal proposal on how to mandate 189 00:10:43,054 --> 00:10:46,054 Speaker 2: the system before a final decision is made in about 190 00:10:46,095 --> 00:10:51,655 Speaker 2: twelve months. Ukrainian skeleton athlete Vadislav Heraskovich has appealed against 191 00:10:51,655 --> 00:10:55,375 Speaker 2: the decision to disqualify him from the Winter Olympics. R 192 00:10:55,455 --> 00:10:58,375 Speaker 2: Askovich was ruled out of the event by the International 193 00:10:58,415 --> 00:11:03,095 Speaker 2: Olympic Committee minutes before competition began after refusing to change 194 00:11:03,135 --> 00:11:06,215 Speaker 2: his helmet, which features photos of athlete killed in the 195 00:11:06,255 --> 00:11:10,975 Speaker 2: war with Russia. IOC president Kirsty Coventry says no one 196 00:11:11,015 --> 00:11:14,615 Speaker 2: disagrees with the powerful messaging, but to the helmet wouldn't 197 00:11:14,615 --> 00:11:17,335 Speaker 2: be allowed in competition as there was a rule against 198 00:11:17,335 --> 00:11:20,415 Speaker 2: making political statements on the Olympic field of play. 199 00:11:20,695 --> 00:11:23,055 Speaker 3: We have these rules in place to try and be 200 00:11:23,135 --> 00:11:27,895 Speaker 3: fair and also to try and allow for us to 201 00:11:27,895 --> 00:11:31,255 Speaker 3: do both things right, to allow for athletes to express themselves, 202 00:11:31,495 --> 00:11:33,455 Speaker 3: but also to allow for athletes. 203 00:11:33,054 --> 00:11:36,735 Speaker 2: To be safe and James Vanderbeek's family has reached its 204 00:11:36,735 --> 00:11:40,535 Speaker 2: GoFundMe target in less than twenty four hours. The Dawson's 205 00:11:40,575 --> 00:11:43,535 Speaker 2: Creek star died on Wednesday, aged forty eight, and his 206 00:11:43,575 --> 00:11:46,615 Speaker 2: family has already received more than two point one million 207 00:11:46,655 --> 00:11:50,215 Speaker 2: Australian dollars through their GoFundMe page, which was set up 208 00:11:50,215 --> 00:11:54,095 Speaker 2: to support them after Vanderbeek's medical costs left his family struggling. 209 00:11:54,735 --> 00:11:58,215 Speaker 2: That's your evening News headlines. On Monday's episode of The Quiki, 210 00:11:58,495 --> 00:12:01,775 Speaker 2: we dive into the controversy surrounding the new Wuthering Heights 211 00:12:01,815 --> 00:12:05,454 Speaker 2: movie and unpack why critics aren't impressed. 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