WEBVTT - Our Meghan Review & The Cloud Over MAFS 0:00:10.622 --> 0:00:13.342 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 0:00:13.822 --> 0:00:17.182 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:17.222 --> 0:00:18.741 that this podcast is recorded on. 0:00:22.142 --> 0:00:26.502 And I watched her have her friend over. They made candles, 0:00:26.622 --> 0:00:28.582 and then they made a cake, and then they made 0:00:28.622 --> 0:00:31.022 tea and also the skillet spaghetti. And I was like, 0:00:31.142 --> 0:00:33.342 if I went to a friend's house and they said 0:00:33.781 --> 0:00:36.622 let's go make some candles, I would say, I have 0:00:36.702 --> 0:00:40.062 diarrhea and I need to live because that is my idea. 0:00:40.101 --> 0:00:41.782 And you know what this is the types of people 0:00:41.822 --> 0:00:43.702 think some people love that. 0:00:47.382 --> 0:00:50.022 Hello, Hello, and welcome to Mamma Mia. Out loud, what 0:00:50.102 --> 0:00:53.662 women are actually talking about? On Wednesday, the fifth of March. 0:00:54.102 --> 0:00:56.582 I'm Hollywayn Wright and I'm speaking in. 0:00:56.622 --> 0:00:57.462 My b voice. 0:00:57.702 --> 0:01:00.342 I'm mea Friedman and my bacon brings all the boys 0:01:00.382 --> 0:01:00.942 to the yard. 0:01:01.142 --> 0:01:03.702 I'm Jesse Stevens and I love birds song. 0:01:04.702 --> 0:01:06.941 If you don't know what we're talking about, then you 0:01:07.102 --> 0:01:10.941 didn't spend last night watching with Love Megan. They nearly 0:01:10.941 --> 0:01:13.142 got the title wrong. As Ever Megan, Yeah. 0:01:12.941 --> 0:01:17.462 As ever, We love Mergan. Montecito, Riviera, American Now. 0:01:18.262 --> 0:01:22.222 Anyway, sorry, we're already cracking ourselves up handle making flower 0:01:22.222 --> 0:01:26.062 sprinkles and that damn jam Welcome to Megan's world. We're 0:01:26.102 --> 0:01:29.342 getting to that. And a high school has banned mirrors 0:01:29.342 --> 0:01:31.342 in the kids' bathrooms. Some of us wonder if we 0:01:31.382 --> 0:01:34.622 could extend that band to the universe. Also, there's a 0:01:34.662 --> 0:01:37.222 cloud hanging over this season. That's Married at First Sight, 0:01:37.542 --> 0:01:41.581 that most watched ever and it's dB but first Mia. 0:01:41.742 --> 0:01:44.182 We couldn't start today's show without sending our love to 0:01:44.262 --> 0:01:47.342 all our out louders who are currently preparing for cyclone 0:01:47.382 --> 0:01:51.822 Alfred to hit southeastern Queensland and northeastern New South Wales. 0:01:52.102 --> 0:01:55.102 The warning zone extends from north of the Sunshine Coast 0:01:55.422 --> 0:01:58.422 all the way down to Yamber. Schools are closed today. 0:01:58.822 --> 0:02:03.502 Evacuation notices have been issued for several areas in Southeast Queensland. 0:02:03.662 --> 0:02:09.022 Panic buying has commenced. There are five hour lineups for sandbags. 0:02:09.061 --> 0:02:11.542 We've been speaking to out louders in Brisbane this morning. 0:02:12.142 --> 0:02:15.181 There are lines going down the street at bakeries and 0:02:15.222 --> 0:02:18.142 for basic supplies. A lot of supermarket shelves are bere 0:02:19.062 --> 0:02:22.342 and of course North Queenslanders are experienced with these kinds 0:02:22.462 --> 0:02:25.062 of natural disasters, but for Brisbane people it might be 0:02:25.142 --> 0:02:28.702 their first time. So I'm told that region or Queenslanders 0:02:28.942 --> 0:02:32.582 are offering some great advice to people in Brisbane who 0:02:32.622 --> 0:02:36.181 themselves have some real PTSD about fear of their houses 0:02:36.181 --> 0:02:39.662 flooding again for those who experienced that last time. And look, 0:02:39.702 --> 0:02:42.102 the city is built on a floodplain, so it is 0:02:42.181 --> 0:02:45.022 part of Brisbane's history. But that doesn't make it easy. 0:02:45.142 --> 0:02:47.582 So our hearts go out to you. Queensland is pulled 0:02:47.622 --> 0:02:50.782 together really well in a crisis. We know that, and 0:02:51.222 --> 0:02:54.221 more than four million people are currently in the impact 0:02:54.342 --> 0:02:58.222 zone potentially, and it must be such a scary time. 0:02:58.342 --> 0:03:01.662 And the waiting too. As we're recording this now, obviously 0:03:01.782 --> 0:03:04.982 it's the waiting period and we're just sending so much 0:03:05.022 --> 0:03:07.302 love and hopefully a little bit of distraction. 0:03:11.902 --> 0:03:14.822 The biggest thing is keeping the low tone to talk 0:03:14.862 --> 0:03:15.621 in our b voice. 0:03:16.342 --> 0:03:21.702 That's a fool. It is so heavy, the weight of 0:03:21.742 --> 0:03:23.982 the honey, you know what it is. 0:03:24.142 --> 0:03:27.142 It's like also that reminder to do something that scares 0:03:27.181 --> 0:03:27.862 your movement. 0:03:28.342 --> 0:03:29.342 I think that's part of it. 0:03:29.502 --> 0:03:32.742 Like I'm trying to stay in the phone of it 0:03:32.862 --> 0:03:35.142 because it's beautiful. 0:03:34.342 --> 0:03:35.422 To be disconnected. 0:03:36.022 --> 0:03:39.622 It's not my perfume that's bringing them all in My 0:03:39.702 --> 0:03:41.662 bacon brings all the boys. 0:03:41.782 --> 0:03:44.942 Megan marcle has eaten Jack in the box and loves 0:03:44.942 --> 0:03:45.422 funny too. 0:03:45.502 --> 0:03:47.622 Do you keep saying, Megan Markle, you know I'm Sussex. 0:03:47.702 --> 0:03:51.062 Now you have kids and you go no, I share 0:03:51.102 --> 0:03:52.422 my name with my children. 0:03:52.662 --> 0:03:54.142 Yes, and that feels so. 0:03:54.462 --> 0:03:56.982 I didn't know how meaningful it would be to me, 0:03:57.142 --> 0:04:00.382 but it just means so much to see where our 0:04:00.422 --> 0:04:02.862 rainbow is coming together here. And you don't have to 0:04:02.862 --> 0:04:04.702 do a big platter of this. You could do this 0:04:04.782 --> 0:04:07.702 with one small row for your kids for breakfast, genuinely, 0:04:07.782 --> 0:04:11.022 and it makes the morning alone are fun. It's real 0:04:11.142 --> 0:04:13.542 delight in being able to be a present parent, and 0:04:13.582 --> 0:04:16.381 it's a luxury sometimes because we all have to work, 0:04:16.582 --> 0:04:17.222 we all have a. 0:04:17.181 --> 0:04:17.902 Lot of stuff to do. 0:04:18.022 --> 0:04:19.381 But when you can take a minute to. 0:04:19.541 --> 0:04:23.462 Just starting, Meg, and I want to ask about your luke? 0:04:25.582 --> 0:04:26.421 Who your luke? 0:04:27.662 --> 0:04:28.101 Your luck? 0:04:28.381 --> 0:04:28.701 Megan? 0:04:28.941 --> 0:04:29.541 Oh, my luke? 0:04:29.861 --> 0:04:30.301 Your Luke? 0:04:30.501 --> 0:04:32.502 Did I not say it right? I don't know. I 0:04:32.582 --> 0:04:34.981 mean we're cooler than I am. I don't know what 0:04:35.061 --> 0:04:36.181 you're talking my luke. 0:04:36.582 --> 0:04:39.981 My look, she likes my luke. Welcome to Megan's World, 0:04:40.262 --> 0:04:43.741 where every guest gets a personalized bees wax candle, you're 0:04:43.782 --> 0:04:46.701 always fishing flower pedals out of your drinks and crew 0:04:46.782 --> 0:04:49.182 de taye plates are a much mentioned thing. When was 0:04:49.181 --> 0:04:51.261 the last time you thought about a crew to tay plate? 0:04:51.941 --> 0:04:56.221 What is to vegetables on a plate to dip in stuff? 0:04:56.501 --> 0:04:58.981 They feature in almost every episode that I've watched of 0:04:58.981 --> 0:05:00.501 Megan's show. They're a big deal. 0:05:01.662 --> 0:05:02.461 Smell the home. 0:05:02.262 --> 0:05:05.621 Cut flowers, sip the blood orange mimosa, and keep back 0:05:05.662 --> 0:05:09.181 in tasteful neutrals. While we get to our review of 0:05:09.222 --> 0:05:12.261 With Love Megan, but before we do, we need to 0:05:12.262 --> 0:05:15.622 talk a little bit about the complexities of discussing one 0:05:15.662 --> 0:05:19.222 of the most discussed women in the world. Megan Sussex 0:05:19.262 --> 0:05:20.981 as we now know she's called, and we will get 0:05:21.022 --> 0:05:23.061 to that in a minute of why she's called. That 0:05:24.262 --> 0:05:27.501 definitely attracts a level of vitriol that is usually reserved 0:05:27.821 --> 0:05:33.422 for psychopaths, c criminals, murderers. There is no question about that, 0:05:33.621 --> 0:05:37.062 and the level of shit that this woman endures, particularly 0:05:37.061 --> 0:05:39.462 on social media, but also in the legacy media, who 0:05:39.462 --> 0:05:43.421 have various beefs with her husband and who sued a 0:05:43.421 --> 0:05:46.222 lot of them, and in the comments section of absolutely 0:05:46.262 --> 0:05:51.462 everything is entirely disproportionate. To anything that Megan might have 0:05:51.662 --> 0:05:53.902 in inverted commas done. 0:05:53.702 --> 0:05:57.581 And it's underpinned with a tone of racism and sexism 0:05:58.142 --> 0:06:00.462 question entirely unnecessary, and that. 0:06:00.381 --> 0:06:03.501 Can make it really hard because it means that any 0:06:04.821 --> 0:06:09.101 not even legitimate commentary, but discussion about her that's anything 0:06:09.142 --> 0:06:13.141 other than favorable. It's like going to a protest and 0:06:13.301 --> 0:06:15.861 finding yourself next to someone with a sign you really 0:06:16.022 --> 0:06:19.022 think is awful and going, oh, no, I'm protesting this issue, 0:06:19.022 --> 0:06:21.702 but I don't want to be associated. 0:06:21.022 --> 0:06:22.181 With those It's not on your team. 0:06:22.342 --> 0:06:24.702 Yeah, and so I don't want to be with the 0:06:24.821 --> 0:06:29.462 racists and the misogynists who attack Megan, the peers Morgan 0:06:29.501 --> 0:06:34.061 of it all. But then are we just unrelentingly positive 0:06:34.101 --> 0:06:35.342 if that doesn't feel real either. 0:06:35.662 --> 0:06:37.902 I think we should be allowed to take the piss 0:06:38.022 --> 0:06:41.462 out of what is unquestionably one of the most entertainingly 0:06:41.541 --> 0:06:44.142 nonsense television shows that we've seen in a while, Like 0:06:44.421 --> 0:06:48.141 it's not dangerous or harmful, like this TV show, like 0:06:48.222 --> 0:06:51.581 it's it's lovely, but we're allowed to point out that 0:06:51.621 --> 0:06:55.341 it's a little bit ridiculous without I think, jumping into 0:06:55.381 --> 0:06:57.941 a pit of Megan hate, which I certainly and I know, 0:06:58.101 --> 0:07:00.301 none of us want to add to that. It's so 0:07:00.582 --> 0:07:03.421 toxic and so awful. It doesn't matter. This show could 0:07:03.462 --> 0:07:06.502 have been the most incredible thing that ever happened on TV. 0:07:06.662 --> 0:07:08.462 You could predict what all the headlines were going to say. 0:07:08.501 --> 0:07:10.302 Yeah, Freens, didn't matter what she put out. 0:07:10.422 --> 0:07:14.381 I am Meghan Markle's defender on this show, okay, yes, 0:07:14.582 --> 0:07:17.862 And I wanted to love this. I wanted I pressed 0:07:17.862 --> 0:07:20.742 play and I went, come on, Megan. Who doesn't love 0:07:21.381 --> 0:07:24.102 a cake, a candle and a fruit platter. 0:07:24.342 --> 0:07:26.422 We all love it, especially when the fruit platter is 0:07:26.462 --> 0:07:27.622 in the colors of the rainbow. 0:07:27.702 --> 0:07:29.942 I mean, what could go wrong? There were moments where 0:07:29.982 --> 0:07:32.701 I was holding my hand over my mouth in shock. 0:07:32.902 --> 0:07:33.941 It's about what I watched. 0:07:34.662 --> 0:07:36.382 I want to just tell everybody what the format is 0:07:36.422 --> 0:07:39.302 in case they didn't watch it, because some people didn't 0:07:39.342 --> 0:07:41.622 put themselves through it or enjoy it. As the case, 0:07:41.662 --> 0:07:45.222 maybe the format is a guest, not a very famous guest, 0:07:45.262 --> 0:07:47.182 which is one of the things that I'm interested in, 0:07:47.262 --> 0:07:49.982 but usually one of Megan's mates or someone she admires 0:07:50.062 --> 0:07:52.262 comes to a pretend house. There's no shade in that. 0:07:52.342 --> 0:07:55.502 Because very few of the lifestyle shows that we Watch 0:07:55.502 --> 0:07:57.902 and Consume are ever filmed in somebody's real house or 0:07:57.902 --> 0:07:58.542 certainly the host. 0:07:58.622 --> 0:08:01.262 Real housing shows are never filmed in almost It is. 0:08:01.262 --> 0:08:04.062 A little bit disappointing that it's not a bit more believable. 0:08:04.381 --> 0:08:06.782 And she declares in the first episode, in the first 0:08:06.821 --> 0:08:08.942 ten minutes, this is not my house, up and down 0:08:08.982 --> 0:08:11.622 to this place, because so much of it is about 0:08:11.622 --> 0:08:14.021 her home, her life, her vibe. You're a little bit like, oh, 0:08:14.102 --> 0:08:15.422 I'd love to see your real garden. 0:08:15.462 --> 0:08:18.182 But anyway, she does film in her real garden. So 0:08:18.222 --> 0:08:20.542 the bits where she's in that picking a lot of 0:08:20.582 --> 0:08:22.182 the beds, not all of them, but some of the ones, 0:08:22.222 --> 0:08:24.862 like when she's picking berries and stuff, Apparently that is 0:08:24.902 --> 0:08:26.821 in her garden and it's her real I haven't seen 0:08:26.821 --> 0:08:28.862 the chickens yet. I'm only up to episode three, the 0:08:28.941 --> 0:08:31.422 chickens and the bees, so there are a good well 0:08:31.462 --> 0:08:32.342 that's her bees. 0:08:32.662 --> 0:08:34.902 It would have to be right, because the garden is 0:08:34.982 --> 0:08:36.982 so beautiful it makes you want to cry. I also 0:08:36.982 --> 0:08:38.982 want to know you might know this if that's her 0:08:39.022 --> 0:08:41.022 real view with the mountains, because that's the best view 0:08:41.062 --> 0:08:43.702 I've ever seen her view. Anyway, the people come over 0:08:43.862 --> 0:08:46.822 to the pretend house and they do things together like 0:08:46.862 --> 0:08:49.942 make fried chicken cakes, rainbow fruit platters, make jam et cetera, 0:08:50.102 --> 0:08:53.782 and they chat while they're doing it. Right as you say, Jesse, 0:08:54.222 --> 0:08:56.262 I too very much wanted to love it because I'm 0:08:56.582 --> 0:09:00.622 team Meghan. I found it hard to not criticize any 0:09:00.662 --> 0:09:02.262 of it. But I've worked really hard to find five 0:09:02.302 --> 0:09:03.982 positive things about it. Should we discuss some of them? 0:09:04.022 --> 0:09:05.102 Because I know you agree. 0:09:05.262 --> 0:09:07.222 I want to just say firstly what I thought of it, 0:09:07.222 --> 0:09:10.381 because I was a bit like, I'm a bit the 0:09:10.422 --> 0:09:13.022 black hat when it comes to Meghan. I am reputationally 0:09:13.062 --> 0:09:15.982 without louders. I'm seen as someone who's very critical of her. 0:09:17.062 --> 0:09:19.902 I did not have that same reaction when I watched 0:09:19.902 --> 0:09:22.261 the first episode. I found it in the way that 0:09:22.302 --> 0:09:25.662 those shows can be that are on like the Lifestyle 0:09:25.782 --> 0:09:28.822 Channel or you know, Nigella, just quite soothing. There have 0:09:28.862 --> 0:09:31.382 been times in my life where I've really got quite 0:09:31.702 --> 0:09:34.702 involved in them in that they're just lovely, pleasant, white 0:09:34.782 --> 0:09:36.542 background noise. And we talk a lot about the New 0:09:36.582 --> 0:09:39.702 Cycle being so horrible at the moment that sometimes it 0:09:39.822 --> 0:09:43.462 is nice to just retreat into a world where making 0:09:43.502 --> 0:09:47.062 a gift bag for a child's birthday party is your 0:09:47.062 --> 0:09:48.542 whole purpose, your whole purpose. 0:09:48.622 --> 0:09:52.182 It's opened with Meghan making bath salts for her friend 0:09:52.262 --> 0:09:54.742 who is staying in her guest room, and she says, 0:09:54.742 --> 0:09:58.582 you always want someone who's staying in your guest cottage 0:09:58.582 --> 0:10:01.142 to know how much you've thought of them. And I thought, 0:10:01.342 --> 0:10:03.382 that's the most unrelatable shit I have ever heard in 0:10:03.382 --> 0:10:06.382 my life. She was like, you want obviously a moment at. 0:10:06.222 --> 0:10:09.302 The bedside table was moments moment who. 0:10:09.182 --> 0:10:12.182 Has a guest? Secondly who has a bedside table? Thirdly 0:10:12.182 --> 0:10:13.422 who has a bathroom for their guests? 0:10:13.462 --> 0:10:14.782 I don't like people staying at the house. 0:10:16.062 --> 0:10:18.942 This gets to one of the very big things about 0:10:18.982 --> 0:10:22.222 it is relatability what Meghan's going for, because no, I 0:10:22.222 --> 0:10:23.542 don't think it is no. 0:10:23.662 --> 0:10:26.261 But what I found I'm going to use the word 0:10:26.302 --> 0:10:30.702 insufferable about it is that I like lifestyle shows. Right. So, 0:10:31.382 --> 0:10:37.102 Martha Stewart's stick is that she is a self described perfectionist, 0:10:37.422 --> 0:10:39.582 and she owns that, and there's something quite self aware 0:10:39.582 --> 0:10:41.982 about it. Meghan won't acknowledge that she's a perfectionist. She 0:10:42.062 --> 0:10:44.302 keeps saying it doesn't have to be perfect. The other 0:10:44.382 --> 0:10:46.902 thing I like about lifestyle shows is that while they 0:10:46.942 --> 0:10:49.742 cook or while they potter, we learn things about their lives. 0:10:49.782 --> 0:10:50.862 That's usually the format. 0:10:51.022 --> 0:10:53.942 That's the format is that there's something quite revealing about 0:10:53.942 --> 0:10:56.142 who that person is or what they think. There is 0:10:56.702 --> 0:10:58.942 none of that the depth of the conversation. The only 0:10:58.982 --> 0:11:01.462 place it goes to is Meghan saying to her friend, 0:11:01.582 --> 0:11:04.782 do you like tomatoes? Who doesn't like tomatoes? They're making 0:11:04.782 --> 0:11:06.902 a pasta and then they go and make. 0:11:06.942 --> 0:11:09.302 I liked that pasta. It was like, why I would 0:11:09.342 --> 0:11:11.822 like to it past He right? So I was like, oh, 0:11:11.862 --> 0:11:14.261 this is interesting. I'm actually learning things. I wrote down 0:11:14.262 --> 0:11:15.662 a list of the things that I learned in this 0:11:15.742 --> 0:11:19.582 show list. Yes, yes, I stopped writing down things after 0:11:19.582 --> 0:11:20.942 a while because there was a lot of things that 0:11:21.022 --> 0:11:21.822 I will never do. 0:11:21.942 --> 0:11:22.102 Right. 0:11:22.142 --> 0:11:24.342 It's a bit like watching porn. You can go, well, 0:11:24.342 --> 0:11:26.942 that's interesting, but I'll never do that. But it's interesting 0:11:27.022 --> 0:11:29.702 to watch things go in different holes. I was like, 0:11:30.062 --> 0:11:33.622 it's interesting to see someone make bath salts from scratch, 0:11:33.742 --> 0:11:37.142 or someone pop corn with a dried corn, thing like 0:11:37.262 --> 0:11:39.702 stuff I would never do. But it did feel quite 0:11:39.742 --> 0:11:42.822 soothing in a way. Some other things that I learned 0:11:43.102 --> 0:11:46.062 is how to harvest honey. That's when she was talking 0:11:46.062 --> 0:11:48.862 in the clip that we had about the bees and bees. 0:11:50.662 --> 0:11:53.302 Do you think that how to harvest honey and like 0:11:53.742 --> 0:11:56.022 how she still needs a beekeeper year on is a 0:11:56.022 --> 0:11:56.982 relatable life hack. 0:11:57.262 --> 0:12:00.502 No, but I don't think these shows are relatable necessarily 0:12:00.542 --> 0:12:02.822 because I also learned that you can get wax. If 0:12:02.822 --> 0:12:06.342 you don't have your own bee harvest hive, you can 0:12:06.422 --> 0:12:09.182 get wax from your local beekeeper. She did mention that. 0:12:09.182 --> 0:12:11.942 Where's our local beekeeper? Because I I'd have to go I. 0:12:11.822 --> 0:12:14.582 Had I learned how to make a local beekeeper. So, 0:12:14.702 --> 0:12:18.062 you know, people, you know what, celebrities aren't meant to 0:12:18.142 --> 0:12:21.982 be like us. They're not like Megan Markle is royal. 0:12:22.102 --> 0:12:24.261 We would be kind of disappointed if she was. 0:12:24.422 --> 0:12:25.462 Just she's actually not. 0:12:25.462 --> 0:12:28.582 In her tracks and she is royal. Will you talk 0:12:28.622 --> 0:12:29.502 about the sussex things? 0:12:29.782 --> 0:12:32.302 Explain that one of the things I learned is about 0:12:32.302 --> 0:12:35.462 the sussexness of it all. You said there isn't revealing stuff. 0:12:35.462 --> 0:12:37.702 There is definitely revealing stuff in this It's just you 0:12:37.782 --> 0:12:39.422 have to work quite hard for it because it's. 0:12:39.262 --> 0:12:41.462 Not later Also, she stopped after the first episode. 0:12:41.662 --> 0:12:43.662 The second one is Mandy Kayling and that was my 0:12:43.702 --> 0:12:47.302 favorite so far. Mindy Kayling good friend of Megan. They've 0:12:47.302 --> 0:12:49.582 already been on a show together on the podcast comes 0:12:49.582 --> 0:12:51.381 around with their mom friends. Apparently there's a lot of 0:12:51.422 --> 0:12:54.022 mommy in episode two. That's why you have to watch it, Jesse, 0:12:54.142 --> 0:12:57.542 because it's aimed at you and her second birthday party. 0:12:58.462 --> 0:13:02.302 Many Kayling is very glam like. She comes over wearing 0:13:02.342 --> 0:13:05.582 double denim with a Valentino belt and very big fake 0:13:05.622 --> 0:13:08.622 eyelashes and more hair and makeup than I saw her 0:13:08.622 --> 0:13:11.222 wear at the Oscars. So I thought that was interesting. 0:13:11.302 --> 0:13:13.982 Well, I think that's the vibe, right, because what I 0:13:14.022 --> 0:13:16.382 quite liked about Mindy is she was very clearly like, 0:13:16.462 --> 0:13:18.502 oh my god, I'm going to Megan Michael's house, even 0:13:18.542 --> 0:13:20.582 though she wasn't going to Mega michaels house, and she 0:13:20.702 --> 0:13:23.982 kept saying that, and that's why Meghan had to say 0:13:24.022 --> 0:13:26.102 but I thought with a little point, like a little 0:13:26.142 --> 0:13:28.102 bit of like, oh, you know what I mean, because 0:13:28.142 --> 0:13:29.862 if you're a famous person, you don't really want people 0:13:29.942 --> 0:13:32.662 keeping saying like, oh my god, you're so famous. And 0:13:32.702 --> 0:13:36.022 that's why Meghan then goes, it's so funny that you 0:13:36.182 --> 0:13:38.942 keep calling me Megan Michaels. She didn't mean funny. She 0:13:38.982 --> 0:13:42.062 said that she meant annoying, she met annoying, but she 0:13:42.182 --> 0:13:45.742 was being polite. She said, because I'm Sussex. Now now 0:13:45.742 --> 0:13:47.702 what she means by that? And then she said, obviously 0:13:47.742 --> 0:13:49.862 not relatable to me that you have to have the 0:13:49.902 --> 0:13:52.222 same name as your children, otherwise you're not a unit. 0:13:52.222 --> 0:13:53.622 And I'm like, well that leaves all of us in 0:13:53.702 --> 0:13:57.302 quite a lot of trouble. But anyway, yeah, anyway, the 0:13:57.342 --> 0:14:01.182 reason she's a Sussex now is Harry's official surname, Like 0:14:01.262 --> 0:14:03.422 as in, if he had an official surname but it 0:14:03.542 --> 0:14:06.902 was Windsor, it's Mount Batton, Windsor, right, that's' official surname. 0:14:06.942 --> 0:14:11.302 But royals, very often the surname is their title. So 0:14:11.342 --> 0:14:13.662 when Harry was at school, he was known as Harry Wales. 0:14:13.662 --> 0:14:15.381 When he was in the army, he was known as 0:14:15.462 --> 0:14:18.622 whatever rank he was Wales, right, William Wales. That's the 0:14:18.622 --> 0:14:22.302 way it works. So now that his title is Sussex, 0:14:22.382 --> 0:14:24.902 the Duke of Sussex, Sussex is kind of like his 0:14:24.982 --> 0:14:29.862 surname now, so Harry Sussex, Megan Sussex, but Sussex. So 0:14:29.942 --> 0:14:32.662 that's how it works. So it's very much a royal 0:14:33.182 --> 0:14:35.902 thing that they've taken on, so she is still royal. 0:14:36.062 --> 0:14:37.822 What would be cool is if she was just called 0:14:37.822 --> 0:14:39.062 Meghan Sussex. 0:14:38.662 --> 0:14:42.502 Then, because even in the Executive Producer it's the first 0:14:42.582 --> 0:14:46.182 name that comes up. Is But I couldn't get through 0:14:46.342 --> 0:14:50.062 more than one. And I watched her have her friend over. 0:14:50.382 --> 0:14:52.702 They wanted to gossip like anyone does, but they couldn't. 0:14:52.782 --> 0:14:55.462 So he said things like, your peas look like pearls, 0:14:56.182 --> 0:15:00.582 actual green peas, and then they made candles, and then 0:15:00.622 --> 0:15:02.822 they made a cake, and then they made tea and 0:15:02.862 --> 0:15:05.142 also the skillet spaghetti. And I was like, if I 0:15:05.182 --> 0:15:07.822 went to a friend's house and they said let's go 0:15:07.862 --> 0:15:10.902 make some candles, I would say, I have diarrhea and 0:15:10.942 --> 0:15:13.942 I need to live, because that is my idea. And 0:15:13.942 --> 0:15:15.662 you know what, this is the types of people thing. 0:15:16.022 --> 0:15:18.822 Some people love that. But there was something in the 0:15:18.942 --> 0:15:21.062 tone as well that I felt was like when I 0:15:21.142 --> 0:15:24.662 take lunar to a craft class where the teacher's going 0:15:24.742 --> 0:15:27.062 and now get your paddle pop stick and put it 0:15:27.102 --> 0:15:29.702 here that she was speaking to her friend like that. 0:15:30.582 --> 0:15:33.142 In one of my uncharitable moments, I did write in 0:15:33.222 --> 0:15:35.982 my notes because I was taking notes. Obviously, if Megan 0:15:36.182 --> 0:15:38.262 was in my mother's group, I would fake a seizure 0:15:38.302 --> 0:15:42.622 and leave. And that's only because not because of her. 0:15:42.942 --> 0:15:45.382 But that second episode that was about hosting a child's 0:15:45.382 --> 0:15:47.662 birthday party triggered me, like I know that it did. 0:15:47.742 --> 0:15:50.222 In the group chat, you turned it that I turned, 0:15:50.342 --> 0:15:53.222 I wrote, I have turned because. 0:15:53.382 --> 0:15:54.582 You announced your turning. 0:15:54.702 --> 0:15:56.782 I am out of that phase of parenting now my 0:15:56.862 --> 0:16:01.302 kids are teenagers. I found that very stressful. She uses 0:16:01.342 --> 0:16:04.782 hostessing as a verbal lot like hostessing never stops. Hostessing 0:16:05.222 --> 0:16:07.662 demands a lot of it. I am a terrible hostess, 0:16:08.022 --> 0:16:10.262 and anyone who cuts their which is in the little 0:16:10.302 --> 0:16:13.462 star shapes immediately triggers me. Never mind the balloon art stop. 0:16:13.942 --> 0:16:16.462 But in that episode two I did learn something that 0:16:16.462 --> 0:16:18.902 I think is quite profound, right because I kept wondering 0:16:18.942 --> 0:16:21.622 why she's the friend clearly when Daniel comes over in 0:16:21.662 --> 0:16:23.942 the first episode that you saw, she's clearly the friend 0:16:23.942 --> 0:16:26.702 who goes you look tired. I'm going to run you 0:16:26.742 --> 0:16:28.542 a bath and make you some tea for your allergies 0:16:28.622 --> 0:16:31.262 right now. Sometimes you love that friend, and other times 0:16:31.262 --> 0:16:34.022 you want to throttle that friend because you're like, you're controlling. 0:16:34.102 --> 0:16:35.582 What do you mean I look tired, bitch? 0:16:35.662 --> 0:16:39.022 I'm working hard. But anyway, in the second episode, because 0:16:39.142 --> 0:16:40.742 I kept thinking, why does she want to look after 0:16:40.782 --> 0:16:42.622 everyone so much? And why is she so obsessed with 0:16:42.662 --> 0:16:45.022 everything being beautiful? And in sad episode, she talks to 0:16:45.062 --> 0:16:47.702 me and nikayling about the tacos and how when she 0:16:47.742 --> 0:16:50.062 was a kid, and Mindy says, did you eat like 0:16:50.142 --> 0:16:52.222 this growing up? So she's talking about her veggie cru 0:16:52.302 --> 0:16:54.942 to tape platters and arrange the kids love. Yeah, that 0:16:54.982 --> 0:16:58.222 the kids love also triggered me. I am with vegetables 0:16:58.222 --> 0:17:02.662 and children. My children have never knowingly eaten the vegetables. Still, anyway, 0:17:03.022 --> 0:17:05.821 she says, No, I was a latch key kid, she said, 0:17:05.862 --> 0:17:08.102 and I ate a lot of fast food. She came home, 0:17:08.182 --> 0:17:10.302 she put a microwave meal and they did a plate 0:17:10.341 --> 0:17:13.581 and ate alone because she had two very busy working 0:17:13.621 --> 0:17:15.821 divorced parents and no one was making her crew to 0:17:15.861 --> 0:17:17.821 tape plates. And so I think that one of the 0:17:17.861 --> 0:17:20.061 things that's really interesting there is an insight about Megan. 0:17:20.982 --> 0:17:24.782 She knows that the greatest privilege of having money really 0:17:25.262 --> 0:17:27.861 is that you can spend our times and she said 0:17:27.861 --> 0:17:29.101 that quite a few times. 0:17:28.821 --> 0:17:32.901 And you can spend time making them waffles for breakfast, setting, 0:17:33.861 --> 0:17:34.142 and I. 0:17:34.101 --> 0:17:37.621 Think she's you know, she's clearly knows that, is self 0:17:37.621 --> 0:17:39.982 aware enough to know that, and she's leaning into it 0:17:40.061 --> 0:17:40.702 in a big way. 0:17:40.861 --> 0:17:43.461 Can I ask you, Holly, what your five positives were? 0:17:43.542 --> 0:17:46.341 I have one positive. My one positive is that she 0:17:46.381 --> 0:17:50.782 has beautiful handwriting, a lot of writing. 0:17:50.462 --> 0:17:54.782 Labels, and beautiful nails, very gorgeous hands. She could be handed. 0:17:55.222 --> 0:17:57.462 I did admire the money. Yeah right, she actually looks 0:17:57.502 --> 0:18:00.181 amazing full stop. As we've already discussed, the food is 0:18:00.182 --> 0:18:03.222 good and not that complicated, That pasta dish fantastic. 0:18:03.581 --> 0:18:05.622 I meant that I want that recipe and the. 0:18:05.621 --> 0:18:09.382 Quick except you can't because it isn't anywhere that did. 0:18:09.742 --> 0:18:11.782 We have to address this at a later day. I 0:18:11.821 --> 0:18:14.262 want to know, Mia, why you can't get all the recipes. 0:18:14.302 --> 0:18:17.861 Well, it's interesting because you would think the logical tie 0:18:17.901 --> 0:18:20.141 in if you were walking in the shoes of your audience, 0:18:20.341 --> 0:18:23.421 is you then click and go to the website and 0:18:23.462 --> 0:18:25.782 it shows you step by step how to do the 0:18:25.821 --> 0:18:28.421 balloon arch, how to make the bath salts, you know, 0:18:28.462 --> 0:18:32.741 how to make the little Lady Bug chrostini, all of 0:18:32.782 --> 0:18:35.181 those things, and they could just use steals from the 0:18:35.341 --> 0:18:38.782 filming of the show the recipes because I couldn't follow 0:18:38.821 --> 0:18:40.581 all of that. I'm up to episode three where they're 0:18:40.581 --> 0:18:42.701 making fried chicken and there are so many steps and 0:18:42.742 --> 0:18:45.141 there's brining and all of these things, and not that 0:18:45.141 --> 0:18:46.661 I'm ever going to make it anyway, but if you 0:18:46.742 --> 0:18:49.341 wanted to, you couldn't, So that was surprising. 0:18:49.982 --> 0:18:52.741