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Speaker 1: My name is Lee Campbell, my name is Kelly mccaren,

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Speaker 1: and it's a Monday, and on Monday we answer your

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Speaker 1: We're always getting new listeners. So even if it's like

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Speaker 1: Later on in the episode, we have got a blush question.

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Speaker 1: Funny enough, we didn't make it up. Lee. If anyone

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Speaker 1: has not listened to Friday's episode, she is choo chow

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Speaker 1: on the blush train. Pretty much, she's driving the blush

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Speaker 1: my help with that one. Lee. But Dawn has asked.

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Speaker 1: I recently discovered your podcast and I love it. I'm

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Speaker 1: in sunny San Diego, California, so I especially love all

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Speaker 1: the good information on sunscreen. I do have a question

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Speaker 1: my skincare and before my makeup. As I learned from

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Speaker 1: you girls. I go to work indoors and I'm not

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Speaker 1: in the sun until lunchtime when I go for a walk.

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Speaker 1: Do I need to reapply it to my face if

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Speaker 1: always so confused by this. Do I reapply it after

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Speaker 1: No matter what. I'm using naked Sundays and I love

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Speaker 1: for all your great info. Dawn in San Diego. We're international.

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Speaker 2: Well we kind of knew that, but Hi, Dawn in

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Speaker 2: San Diego. I've never been to San Diego. All I

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Speaker 2: do is think of and can man?

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Speaker 1: Is that so bad? It's the greatest city in the

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Speaker 1: history of man Cain. Doesn't it mean Saint Diego?

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Speaker 2: No? Hi, Dawn, I love that you're listening. Okay, great,

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Speaker 2: this is excellent. So you put it on in the

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Speaker 2: morning you're working indoors, it's time for your lunchy. Mark

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Speaker 2: best practice is to reapply. It is a massive pain

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Speaker 2: in the heiny heiney, but there are ways to do it.

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Speaker 2: So the incredible Hannah English, who is a service to

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Speaker 2: us all Australian beauty content creator and scientist.

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Speaker 1: She's got a great reel that.

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Speaker 2: We're linked in the show notes, and she's got four

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Speaker 2: ways to reapply. The one she kind of talks about

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Speaker 2: most regularly is pouncing, as Kelly golls it. You know,

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Speaker 2: a press and a bounce with your son's green on

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Speaker 2: setting spray. It is the shesadoh A Nissa Perfect uv

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Speaker 2: could actually get an SPF umbrella. They exist as well,

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Speaker 2: like SPF parasol parasol parasol parasol. No, but not all

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Speaker 1: Well, I've popped in the naked Sunday's. Miss there's a

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Speaker 1: naked Sundays, have a look, because then that's just an

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Speaker 2: That's interesting you are in America and you're talking about

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Speaker 2: naked Sundays. I haven't brought a list of Australian sunscreens

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Speaker 2: have different rules. So America hasn't changed their UV filters

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Speaker 1: Why would we have to reformulate them then if ours

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Speaker 2: So when Naked Sundaily like, let's all just slip slop slap.

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Speaker 2: When Naked Sundays was formulated, they specifically chose to use

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Speaker 1: our chew cheu captain, No, you're leading it. Nah, you're

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Speaker 1: the blush coein.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm reading this question because I need Kelly's help

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Speaker 2: because I'm still in blush preschool Kimberly has USD.

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Speaker 2: a sponge or am I meant to touch the blush

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Speaker 2: with my fingers or a tool you suggest and then

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of different ways I brought some

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Speaker 1: blushes told you mean, I know. Yeah, we both brought

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Speaker 1: a one brush that we both clearly want to talk

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Speaker 1: of cream products, are a couple of ways that you

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Speaker 1: how advanced you are with blush. She's clearly asking us,

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Speaker 1: with makeup and likes using it a lot. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: what I mean is if you don't like wearing much

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Speaker 1: makeup and you like a more natural sort of finish,

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Speaker 1: what I would do is I'd apply it the blush

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Speaker 1: onto the back of your hand, so would I, And

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Speaker 1: then I would use a brush to dab the brush

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Speaker 1: and then apply it like that. That's what I because

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Speaker 1: that would diffuse it and give it like a more

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Speaker 2: And it's buildable, whereas if you swipe a stick straight

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then pounce, pounce on your hand, pounce pounts

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Speaker 2: and then it'll be shearer, way shearer, and even more

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Speaker 2: No, yours is pretty diffused. I just put someone even

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Speaker 1: No, no, if if we recall to Friday's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: Well, after the break you come up with very funny hacks.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'll go first. It's the end of February,

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Speaker 1: It's baby powder. But who has baby powder? No one.

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Speaker 1: All I can think of when I imagine you're trying to

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Speaker 2: No, I got really hot in my leather pants, so

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Speaker 2: And then, because I'm an absolute genius, reached up from

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Speaker 1: So you try shampooed your mits.

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Speaker 2: Shampooed my hands so they were like it was basically

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Speaker 2: glove on ideas woman, hair color, hair color, hair color,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, am my genius. I think that that's just you

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Speaker 2: Just don't use like because I'm pretty much black hair now,

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