1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:19,024 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:27,424 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on from Mamma MIAU. Welcome to the Spill, 4 00:00:27,504 --> 00:00:31,224 Speaker 1: your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick. 5 00:00:31,064 --> 00:00:34,104 Speaker 2: And I'm am Burnham and a big special Welcome to Lucy, 6 00:00:34,264 --> 00:00:36,544 Speaker 2: Laura Brodneck's sister, who'll be listening to this episode for 7 00:00:36,584 --> 00:00:37,264 Speaker 2: the first time ever. 8 00:00:37,504 --> 00:00:40,464 Speaker 1: She says Slash threatened about wolves fantastic because she's had 9 00:00:40,464 --> 00:00:42,344 Speaker 1: a snitch on my family. Listen. That's fine, Well, don't 10 00:00:42,384 --> 00:00:44,104 Speaker 1: give what we're talking about, because we have a big 11 00:00:44,104 --> 00:00:47,064 Speaker 1: show today. I'm actually really nervous. Well, Emily and I 12 00:00:47,144 --> 00:00:49,944 Speaker 1: went to a big movie premiere this week. We rubbed 13 00:00:49,944 --> 00:00:53,264 Speaker 1: shoulders with some celebrities behind a fence because you know, 14 00:00:53,384 --> 00:00:55,064 Speaker 1: we are of the public and we have to give 15 00:00:55,104 --> 00:00:57,544 Speaker 1: you a review on the new Bridget Jones movie because 16 00:00:57,984 --> 00:01:00,224 Speaker 1: there are some things that need to be said. Plus 17 00:01:00,224 --> 00:01:04,784 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about an upcoming possible TV reboot. I 18 00:01:04,784 --> 00:01:06,664 Speaker 1: can't say anything more about that. Talk about something else, 19 00:01:08,744 --> 00:01:10,824 Speaker 1: but first, Via. 20 00:01:10,864 --> 00:01:15,704 Speaker 2: Newton John, Yes, that Olivia Newton John. Yeah, her Instagram account, 21 00:01:15,784 --> 00:01:17,704 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you know this, but when 22 00:01:17,784 --> 00:01:20,944 Speaker 2: a celebrity dies or someone dies, their Instagram or like 23 00:01:21,024 --> 00:01:24,664 Speaker 2: Metro account, Facebook can be turned into like a memorial account. 24 00:01:24,744 --> 00:01:27,944 Speaker 2: So it's still lives because fans obviously still like love 25 00:01:28,024 --> 00:01:30,264 Speaker 2: that person and want to look back at history and 26 00:01:30,304 --> 00:01:32,984 Speaker 2: all the stuff they posted. So her Instagram account is 27 00:01:33,024 --> 00:01:36,624 Speaker 2: still live, but her Instagram account has been taken over 28 00:01:37,024 --> 00:01:37,944 Speaker 2: by Weight Watches. 29 00:01:38,144 --> 00:01:41,064 Speaker 1: Sorry, this is horrific. Like, I'll put up with a 30 00:01:41,064 --> 00:01:42,864 Speaker 1: lot of stuff in life, but I won't put up 31 00:01:42,864 --> 00:01:43,184 Speaker 1: with this. 32 00:01:43,744 --> 00:01:49,024 Speaker 2: So Weight Watches have a campaign that was approved by 33 00:01:49,064 --> 00:01:51,664 Speaker 2: her team and estate, and if you look at her 34 00:01:51,704 --> 00:01:57,064 Speaker 2: Instagram account, the first twenty posts you'd see are promotions 35 00:01:57,064 --> 00:02:00,784 Speaker 2: for weight Watches. The campaign is called live in Physical. 36 00:02:01,384 --> 00:02:02,064 Speaker 1: They did like a. 37 00:02:01,984 --> 00:02:04,704 Speaker 2: Little word play, so they changed the lyrics. Instead of 38 00:02:04,784 --> 00:02:08,624 Speaker 2: let's get physical, it's let's get clinical, and they're using 39 00:02:08,664 --> 00:02:12,904 Speaker 2: that to promote their new in app doctor and medication subscriptions. 40 00:02:13,224 --> 00:02:15,184 Speaker 1: Okay, just to be clear on my outrage, I'm not 41 00:02:15,304 --> 00:02:17,784 Speaker 1: mad at Weight Watches as a company, like they're entitled 42 00:02:17,824 --> 00:02:21,224 Speaker 1: to advertise anywhere. I'm mad at the people in charge 43 00:02:21,304 --> 00:02:25,784 Speaker 1: of Olivia John's estate and social accounts because this is 44 00:02:26,104 --> 00:02:27,104 Speaker 1: they should know better than this. 45 00:02:27,584 --> 00:02:30,224 Speaker 2: So her agent, Michael Prior. 46 00:02:30,304 --> 00:02:32,904 Speaker 1: He's on my list an. 47 00:02:33,264 --> 00:02:35,144 Speaker 2: He was the one who said that it was approved 48 00:02:35,144 --> 00:02:39,064 Speaker 2: by her state and label, but he hasn't actually disclosed 49 00:02:39,144 --> 00:02:42,784 Speaker 2: whether the campaign was approved prior to her death. 50 00:02:43,024 --> 00:02:44,784 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to go ahead and say probably not. 51 00:02:45,064 --> 00:02:45,904 Speaker 1: I don't think it would. 52 00:02:45,984 --> 00:02:47,904 Speaker 2: She died in twenty twenty two, So this is. 53 00:02:48,424 --> 00:02:50,384 Speaker 1: Do you think someone came to her. Do you think 54 00:02:50,384 --> 00:02:52,064 Speaker 1: someone came to her on a deathbed while she was 55 00:02:52,104 --> 00:02:54,584 Speaker 1: like suffering from cancer and tried to get it a 56 00:02:54,624 --> 00:02:56,824 Speaker 1: sign off on a weight watches campaign? I highly don't 57 00:02:56,824 --> 00:02:57,144 Speaker 1: think so. 58 00:02:57,304 --> 00:02:59,544 Speaker 2: Live So we're thinking in three years, we're just going 59 00:02:59,624 --> 00:03:00,384 Speaker 2: to start posting. 60 00:03:00,464 --> 00:03:02,024 Speaker 1: Just want to make sure your account is still be 61 00:03:02,104 --> 00:03:04,744 Speaker 1: monetized for us. And again I don't want to speak 62 00:03:04,744 --> 00:03:06,704 Speaker 1: out of turn, but I'm assuming that this money isn't 63 00:03:06,704 --> 00:03:09,224 Speaker 1: going to charity anywhere. Maybe it is, and that's the 64 00:03:09,224 --> 00:03:11,184 Speaker 1: only thing I could think of because Union John was 65 00:03:11,224 --> 00:03:14,024 Speaker 1: so active with so many charities and you know, would 66 00:03:14,064 --> 00:03:16,944 Speaker 1: raise so much money. But even then, yeah, I don't 67 00:03:16,944 --> 00:03:18,184 Speaker 1: think it is going to charity. 68 00:03:18,264 --> 00:03:21,584 Speaker 2: Also unconfirmed. And it's like funny because do you remember 69 00:03:21,624 --> 00:03:23,904 Speaker 2: when she passed away and they had those two massive, 70 00:03:23,944 --> 00:03:27,384 Speaker 2: big auctions, like from an estate that was also unconfirmed 71 00:03:27,424 --> 00:03:28,704 Speaker 2: on where those funds are going. 72 00:03:28,944 --> 00:03:30,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look if that went to her family 73 00:03:30,824 --> 00:03:33,224 Speaker 1: and people that she wanted to leave that too. Again, 74 00:03:33,304 --> 00:03:36,704 Speaker 1: she's totally entitled to leave her estate to whoever she likes, 75 00:03:36,744 --> 00:03:40,384 Speaker 1: but it just feels strange to be monetizing fans like 76 00:03:40,544 --> 00:03:43,104 Speaker 1: the way that they remember her and the way they've 77 00:03:43,144 --> 00:03:45,664 Speaker 1: supported her career. It seems weird to be monetizing that 78 00:03:46,104 --> 00:03:48,504 Speaker 1: with a food and diet brand all these years later. 79 00:03:48,664 --> 00:03:50,904 Speaker 2: Fans are quite upset. They actually had to turn the 80 00:03:50,944 --> 00:03:55,864 Speaker 2: comments off, even though they rely heavily on engagement, because 81 00:03:55,904 --> 00:03:57,424 Speaker 2: fans are just like, I can't believe I have to 82 00:03:57,424 --> 00:04:00,104 Speaker 2: now and follow Olivia Newton John. Just feels such bad taste, 83 00:04:00,144 --> 00:04:02,944 Speaker 2: like she's dead. And then someone actually pointed out, which 84 00:04:02,944 --> 00:04:05,584 Speaker 2: I kind of agree with, like Olivia Newton John did, like, 85 00:04:05,664 --> 00:04:07,904 Speaker 2: as you said, so much charity work she lived in LA, 86 00:04:08,184 --> 00:04:11,344 Speaker 2: and fans saying, this company are asking the fans of 87 00:04:11,384 --> 00:04:14,304 Speaker 2: Olivia Newton John to like pay for their product when 88 00:04:14,424 --> 00:04:17,544 Speaker 2: LA's literally on fire like her home for so many years, 89 00:04:17,864 --> 00:04:19,904 Speaker 2: and them I kind of did some digging, and you 90 00:04:20,144 --> 00:04:23,504 Speaker 2: kind of remind me of a little sleep journalist reminded 91 00:04:23,504 --> 00:04:28,264 Speaker 2: me of her daughter. Oh yeah, Chloe, Chloe and I 92 00:04:28,344 --> 00:04:29,904 Speaker 2: kind of did like a bit of a stalk on 93 00:04:29,904 --> 00:04:33,624 Speaker 2: her Instagram. So, Olivia Newton John is actually so rich 94 00:04:33,704 --> 00:04:35,664 Speaker 2: like a lot of people didn't like realize how rich 95 00:04:35,704 --> 00:04:38,984 Speaker 2: she was until a twenty nineteen interview with one of 96 00:04:38,984 --> 00:04:41,464 Speaker 2: her close friends for Women's Days said that she's actually 97 00:04:41,504 --> 00:04:44,064 Speaker 2: way wealthier than people thought. She had heaps of property 98 00:04:44,064 --> 00:04:46,864 Speaker 2: in Melbourne, and she's earning millions every year, especially from 99 00:04:47,144 --> 00:04:49,504 Speaker 2: the songs in the film she were in, and a 100 00:04:49,544 --> 00:04:52,544 Speaker 2: lot of that money went to Chloe. And Chloe's been 101 00:04:52,544 --> 00:04:56,464 Speaker 2: on Instagram talking about how she's moving to Florida because 102 00:04:56,504 --> 00:05:00,624 Speaker 2: California is too expensive. She's also in the music industry, 103 00:05:00,784 --> 00:05:03,424 Speaker 2: and she said these things take more time when you're 104 00:05:03,464 --> 00:05:05,944 Speaker 2: an independent artist who funds themselves. 105 00:05:06,024 --> 00:05:08,864 Speaker 1: Okay, I have, as I was telling you now planning 106 00:05:08,904 --> 00:05:11,624 Speaker 1: me this morning, I have had a weird invested interest 107 00:05:11,704 --> 00:05:13,384 Speaker 1: in Chloela Tanzi for many years. 108 00:05:13,424 --> 00:05:16,304 Speaker 2: Also, Olivia died with eighty five point nine million dollars 109 00:05:16,304 --> 00:05:18,184 Speaker 2: to her name and most of that went to Chloe. 110 00:05:18,344 --> 00:05:21,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm sure, no, No, I have no personal 111 00:05:21,104 --> 00:05:25,224 Speaker 1: beef with Chloe latanzy no no. I just hand it 112 00:05:25,264 --> 00:05:27,504 Speaker 1: so interesting as you watch like so many different NEPO 113 00:05:27,584 --> 00:05:30,304 Speaker 1: babies try and break into the industry. And as I've 114 00:05:30,304 --> 00:05:33,264 Speaker 1: said before, when some of them become huge stars, it's 115 00:05:33,304 --> 00:05:35,544 Speaker 1: obviously off the back of their parents fame, but they 116 00:05:35,544 --> 00:05:38,024 Speaker 1: still have to sometimes have like yes, they'll get given 117 00:05:38,064 --> 00:05:40,104 Speaker 1: a role in the movie, but eventually they have to 118 00:05:40,344 --> 00:05:43,104 Speaker 1: parlay that into their success. They have to be bankable 119 00:05:43,104 --> 00:05:45,424 Speaker 1: at a box office, their music has to sell or 120 00:05:45,464 --> 00:05:47,904 Speaker 1: even their family name won't carry them enough. And we've 121 00:05:47,944 --> 00:05:51,064 Speaker 1: seen some celebrity offspring who I hate to always bring 122 00:05:51,064 --> 00:05:53,304 Speaker 1: her up, but she's just a good example. Like Rumor Willis, 123 00:05:53,344 --> 00:05:55,624 Speaker 1: who is the daughter of Demi Moore and Bruce Willis, 124 00:05:55,864 --> 00:05:58,664 Speaker 1: has had like some acting career success, but really wanted 125 00:05:58,704 --> 00:06:00,944 Speaker 1: to be, you know, a big time actress and was 126 00:06:00,984 --> 00:06:02,984 Speaker 1: completely set up for it with her both of her 127 00:06:03,144 --> 00:06:06,824 Speaker 1: movie star parents. Was given roles and just do you 128 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:08,584 Speaker 1: need some time. I never just really took off. I'm 129 00:06:08,624 --> 00:06:10,744 Speaker 1: sure she was talented, but you know, I've seen some 130 00:06:10,784 --> 00:06:12,664 Speaker 1: of the stuff she's in. We didn't like House Funny. 131 00:06:13,744 --> 00:06:19,384 Speaker 1: That's actually her best role, by the way. Good movie, Yeah, 132 00:06:19,464 --> 00:06:22,464 Speaker 1: great movie with Chlobe La Tanzi, Like, she's tried so 133 00:06:22,504 --> 00:06:25,304 Speaker 1: many times to become this big singer, and her mother's 134 00:06:25,664 --> 00:06:28,664 Speaker 1: fame and her industry contacts and everything have set her 135 00:06:28,744 --> 00:06:30,944 Speaker 1: up to the point where she's been on reality shows. 136 00:06:31,064 --> 00:06:32,544 Speaker 1: I think she was on one call I can't belive 137 00:06:32,544 --> 00:06:34,584 Speaker 1: remember this, like Rock the Cradle like it was this, 138 00:06:34,744 --> 00:06:39,904 Speaker 1: it was the chi It's the children of famous singers 139 00:06:40,224 --> 00:06:42,664 Speaker 1: who were on a reality show trying to like break 140 00:06:42,784 --> 00:06:45,984 Speaker 1: into the music industry. And her whole thing was like 141 00:06:45,984 --> 00:06:48,544 Speaker 1: how Olivia Newton John like used to kind of I guess, 142 00:06:48,544 --> 00:06:50,584 Speaker 1: like you know, golf and pursue her own fame. And 143 00:06:50,664 --> 00:06:52,904 Speaker 1: every time she filmed that show, Aliving Newton John was 144 00:06:52,944 --> 00:06:55,864 Speaker 1: like in the audience smiling and applauding her. And then 145 00:06:55,904 --> 00:06:58,144 Speaker 1: she's given interviews saying, you know, I am which I'm 146 00:06:58,144 --> 00:06:59,504 Speaker 1: sure a lot of this happened when your mom's that 147 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:01,704 Speaker 1: famous and she's churring. I'm sure she's not home very 148 00:07:01,744 --> 00:07:03,704 Speaker 1: much and that would be really hard. But she's given 149 00:07:03,704 --> 00:07:05,504 Speaker 1: interview saying she spent a lot of time alone and 150 00:07:05,584 --> 00:07:08,184 Speaker 1: like big houses and stuff. But I'm also just like, 151 00:07:08,224 --> 00:07:10,144 Speaker 1: you've been given the platform, you've been given all the 152 00:07:10,184 --> 00:07:12,344 Speaker 1: my you'd be given, like you know, you've got your 153 00:07:12,344 --> 00:07:14,984 Speaker 1: mother's fame to work off at what stage you just 154 00:07:15,024 --> 00:07:16,944 Speaker 1: like I got given everything, and this is just where 155 00:07:16,944 --> 00:07:19,304 Speaker 1: I am. It's not about Chloe, we don't we don't 156 00:07:19,384 --> 00:07:20,664 Speaker 1: know that she has anything to. 157 00:07:20,584 --> 00:07:23,144 Speaker 2: Do with it. There's just a lot of moving parts here. 158 00:07:23,584 --> 00:07:26,064 Speaker 2: I just think the whole thing is so not only wild, 159 00:07:26,144 --> 00:07:27,664 Speaker 2: like the first time I've seen something like this, but 160 00:07:27,784 --> 00:07:30,664 Speaker 2: just a bit gross, Like I feel really icky about it. Like, 161 00:07:30,744 --> 00:07:33,504 Speaker 2: imagine you die and then three years later your entire 162 00:07:33,544 --> 00:07:36,664 Speaker 2: Instagram feed is filled with photos of you and like 163 00:07:36,744 --> 00:07:39,544 Speaker 2: videos of you and like a full company that you 164 00:07:39,624 --> 00:07:41,784 Speaker 2: probably had nothing to do with while you're alive. It 165 00:07:41,824 --> 00:07:42,824 Speaker 2: was just promoting that. 166 00:07:42,824 --> 00:07:46,264 Speaker 1: Product, honestly, because I know how close that Olivia John 167 00:07:46,384 --> 00:07:47,704 Speaker 1: was to her daughter, So I don't want to like 168 00:07:47,704 --> 00:07:49,864 Speaker 1: think that she has anything to do. But it is 169 00:07:49,904 --> 00:07:52,744 Speaker 1: an icky situation, and it's just can I just say, 170 00:07:52,824 --> 00:07:54,984 Speaker 1: if I suddenly die, there's no wood Miss Office to touch, 171 00:07:54,984 --> 00:07:57,104 Speaker 1: so we're just gonna have to wrong with it. I 172 00:07:57,144 --> 00:07:59,304 Speaker 1: wonder what I can sell on your I was gonna say, 173 00:07:59,344 --> 00:08:01,024 Speaker 1: you can take on my Instagram. You're the only person 174 00:08:01,064 --> 00:08:03,344 Speaker 1: who would although you're going delete all my long comments 175 00:08:03,384 --> 00:08:04,664 Speaker 1: on there, because you don't like when. 176 00:08:04,504 --> 00:08:06,504 Speaker 2: I definitely the first thing I'll do if I take 177 00:08:06,504 --> 00:08:08,224 Speaker 2: of the Instagram is edit all your captions. 178 00:08:08,304 --> 00:08:10,784 Speaker 1: Hey, okay, actually I'm going to give you permition to 179 00:08:11,384 --> 00:08:13,984 Speaker 1: have my account after my death. But actually no rescind 180 00:08:14,024 --> 00:08:17,544 Speaker 1: it rescinded, so and don't advertise anything on there please, 181 00:08:17,584 --> 00:08:21,944 Speaker 1: That's right. So, there has been a news story doing 182 00:08:21,984 --> 00:08:25,224 Speaker 1: the rounds, especially in the last week, and I know 183 00:08:25,344 --> 00:08:28,144 Speaker 1: a lot of listeners of this podcast have been sending 184 00:08:28,184 --> 00:08:30,424 Speaker 1: me this story and asking me to comment on it, 185 00:08:30,904 --> 00:08:32,984 Speaker 1: and I have to say that I just wasn't personally 186 00:08:33,024 --> 00:08:35,504 Speaker 1: ready to speak on it yet, and I am sorry 187 00:08:35,504 --> 00:08:37,864 Speaker 1: for my silence, but I just felt like I needed 188 00:08:37,904 --> 00:08:40,344 Speaker 1: to take some time to really like collect my thoughts 189 00:08:40,344 --> 00:08:42,344 Speaker 1: on this and kind of just be okay before I 190 00:08:42,384 --> 00:08:46,864 Speaker 1: spoke on it. And that story is the potential reboot 191 00:08:47,184 --> 00:08:50,984 Speaker 1: of the greatest TV show of all time, Buffy the 192 00:08:51,064 --> 00:08:54,304 Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer. I haven't heard of it, don't even Joe. 193 00:08:54,384 --> 00:08:56,784 Speaker 1: It's like you can actually leave the studio. Can I 194 00:08:56,824 --> 00:08:58,224 Speaker 1: just tell you that I actually don't need doing here 195 00:08:58,264 --> 00:08:58,464 Speaker 1: for this. 196 00:08:59,464 --> 00:08:59,944 Speaker 3: I'm going to do. 197 00:09:00,104 --> 00:09:02,784 Speaker 2: Ready for like a narrative, like I want a story time. 198 00:09:02,864 --> 00:09:06,704 Speaker 1: So for anyone who isn't aware Emily Buffy the Vampire Slay. 199 00:09:06,784 --> 00:09:08,744 Speaker 1: Can I just say it's not just me who thinks 200 00:09:08,784 --> 00:09:10,984 Speaker 1: it's the best TV show of all time. I understand 201 00:09:10,984 --> 00:09:13,864 Speaker 1: personal taste and everything. Just from my personal perspective, it 202 00:09:14,024 --> 00:09:15,824 Speaker 1: is not just my favorite TV show in the world, 203 00:09:15,864 --> 00:09:19,104 Speaker 1: it's my favorite thing in the world. It's also the 204 00:09:19,144 --> 00:09:23,144 Speaker 1: most studied TV show in the entire world. There are 205 00:09:23,184 --> 00:09:28,184 Speaker 1: more academic papers and essays and projects dedicated to Buffy 206 00:09:28,184 --> 00:09:31,504 Speaker 1: the Vampire Slayer. And this has been independently proven across 207 00:09:31,584 --> 00:09:35,864 Speaker 1: multiple research channels, and I believe it any other TV 208 00:09:36,024 --> 00:09:39,984 Speaker 1: show or movie franchise in history. It's also the show 209 00:09:40,024 --> 00:09:42,304 Speaker 1: that you can do the most college courses on, even 210 00:09:42,384 --> 00:09:45,664 Speaker 1: high school courses. So it did really change the face 211 00:09:45,704 --> 00:09:49,304 Speaker 1: of TV, film and pop culture. Okay, Okay, so I 212 00:09:49,424 --> 00:09:54,104 Speaker 1: reckon that was just Freddie Prince Jr. Again, Please don't joke. 213 00:09:54,464 --> 00:10:01,464 Speaker 1: So just from trying to ban it's like, it's not 214 00:10:01,504 --> 00:10:04,064 Speaker 1: just big, there's just a banter wall up. Exact, we 215 00:10:04,064 --> 00:10:06,544 Speaker 1: could just turn m's mic off. Thanks producing. Its started 216 00:10:06,544 --> 00:10:09,424 Speaker 1: off with Buffy the Vampire Movie, which has become a 217 00:10:09,424 --> 00:10:11,824 Speaker 1: cult classic but didn't really take off. But what followed 218 00:10:11,824 --> 00:10:12,984 Speaker 1: next was the TV series. 219 00:10:13,024 --> 00:10:14,904 Speaker 2: But Sarah Michelle glare in the movie. 220 00:10:14,984 --> 00:10:16,024 Speaker 1: It's Sarah Michelle Geller. 221 00:10:16,424 --> 00:10:18,664 Speaker 2: Please got lot some respects on Sarah Michelle Geller. 222 00:10:18,864 --> 00:10:21,504 Speaker 1: No, she wasn't. Christy Swanson played the original Buffy, and 223 00:10:21,544 --> 00:10:23,384 Speaker 1: then Sarah Michelle Geller played. 224 00:10:23,984 --> 00:10:26,944 Speaker 2: When she Got married? Yes, was it like Sarah Prince Junior. 225 00:10:27,024 --> 00:10:28,064 Speaker 1: No, it's Sarah Michelle Geller. 226 00:10:28,144 --> 00:10:28,384 Speaker 2: Okay. 227 00:10:28,424 --> 00:10:30,784 Speaker 1: So the show ran for seven seasons from nineteen ninety 228 00:10:30,824 --> 00:10:33,424 Speaker 1: seven in two thousand and three, and it's based off 229 00:10:33,424 --> 00:10:34,144 Speaker 1: this idea that. 230 00:10:34,144 --> 00:10:36,304 Speaker 2: Two thousand and three. That was long ago. 231 00:10:36,384 --> 00:10:38,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. Oh, all was over twenty years ago. 232 00:10:38,544 --> 00:10:39,544 Speaker 2: Oh shit, it was. 233 00:10:40,944 --> 00:10:42,344 Speaker 1: I know because I was in high school then and 234 00:10:42,384 --> 00:10:45,504 Speaker 1: my whole entire life revolved around Buffy. My god, that's okay, 235 00:10:45,624 --> 00:10:47,184 Speaker 1: to the point where I nearly took a week off 236 00:10:47,184 --> 00:10:49,504 Speaker 1: school when Buffy ended. I remember crying every day, and 237 00:10:49,544 --> 00:10:51,384 Speaker 1: even my science in English teachers was like, you don't 238 00:10:51,424 --> 00:10:52,264 Speaker 1: have to do any work today. 239 00:10:52,344 --> 00:10:54,184 Speaker 2: He watched it that young, weren't you scared? 240 00:10:54,504 --> 00:10:54,584 Speaker 3: No? 241 00:10:54,704 --> 00:10:56,504 Speaker 1: I remember watching it in primary school. This is why 242 00:10:56,504 --> 00:10:57,664 Speaker 1: it such a We did start it when I was 243 00:10:57,704 --> 00:10:59,704 Speaker 1: in primary school. It used to be on seven PM 244 00:10:59,704 --> 00:11:01,344 Speaker 1: when it first started, and they started putting on a 245 00:11:01,384 --> 00:11:03,144 Speaker 1: ten PM, which is a whole other situation because my 246 00:11:03,184 --> 00:11:05,144 Speaker 1: mum would let me watch it. There's only one TV 247 00:11:05,184 --> 00:11:06,784 Speaker 1: in the family home, so I had to crawl out 248 00:11:06,784 --> 00:11:09,144 Speaker 1: into the living room under cover of darkness at night 249 00:11:09,184 --> 00:11:11,984 Speaker 1: and turn the later episodes of Buffy on and listen 250 00:11:12,024 --> 00:11:14,424 Speaker 1: with my ear pressed against the speaker, and if I 251 00:11:14,424 --> 00:11:15,944 Speaker 1: heard my mum coming, I had to turn it off. 252 00:11:15,984 --> 00:11:17,144 Speaker 1: But I was just like, I don't even care how 253 00:11:17,184 --> 00:11:18,664 Speaker 1: much trouble I get in because I want to watch this. 254 00:11:18,704 --> 00:11:20,864 Speaker 1: But I started watching it in primary school and it 255 00:11:20,984 --> 00:11:22,904 Speaker 1: was life changing for me. I honestly, is not even 256 00:11:22,944 --> 00:11:25,784 Speaker 1: a joke. This is scary because it's this idea of 257 00:11:25,824 --> 00:11:27,744 Speaker 1: like it's the first time I saw a woman be 258 00:11:27,944 --> 00:11:30,264 Speaker 1: the hero of the story, which doesn't seem like a 259 00:11:30,304 --> 00:11:32,824 Speaker 1: big deal now because we have so many movies and 260 00:11:32,864 --> 00:11:35,704 Speaker 1: TV shows and books dedicated to that idea. But back then, 261 00:11:35,784 --> 00:11:38,264 Speaker 1: it was the idea of flipping this idea that there 262 00:11:38,304 --> 00:11:40,544 Speaker 1: were so many movies and TV shows where a young, blonde, 263 00:11:40,584 --> 00:11:43,184 Speaker 1: beautiful woman would be followed down a dark alley and 264 00:11:43,224 --> 00:11:45,464 Speaker 1: attacked by a monster, attacked by a man and killed, 265 00:11:45,744 --> 00:11:47,624 Speaker 1: and the idea was for this of what if that 266 00:11:47,664 --> 00:11:49,984 Speaker 1: woman turned around and beat the ever loving shit out 267 00:11:49,984 --> 00:11:51,544 Speaker 1: of whatever was trying to kill her. And that's the 268 00:11:51,664 --> 00:11:53,104 Speaker 1: idea of Buffy the Vampires, Like. 269 00:11:53,064 --> 00:11:55,504 Speaker 2: Oh, I should watch this, so, oh my god. 270 00:11:55,344 --> 00:11:59,024 Speaker 1: Yes, you watch it. You would actually love it? Can 271 00:11:59,104 --> 00:12:01,544 Speaker 1: I just say so? Because it's very funny as well. 272 00:12:01,624 --> 00:12:04,304 Speaker 2: I like Sarah Michelle Geller. Gella, I like. 273 00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:08,464 Speaker 1: Her, you know what, throwing her table, she was great. 274 00:12:09,024 --> 00:12:09,944 Speaker 1: We're not even getting into that. 275 00:12:10,504 --> 00:12:12,584 Speaker 2: And Scooby Doo so she was also really good in 276 00:12:12,584 --> 00:12:12,944 Speaker 2: the Grudge. 277 00:12:12,944 --> 00:12:14,184 Speaker 1: You were just trying to make me angry and I'm 278 00:12:14,184 --> 00:12:16,344 Speaker 1: just wanting to know I'm not gonna horrors. So yeah, 279 00:12:16,344 --> 00:12:18,344 Speaker 1: she was a screen queen anyway. The idea of Buffy 280 00:12:18,384 --> 00:12:21,504 Speaker 1: the Vampire Slayer is that in each generation a slayer 281 00:12:21,584 --> 00:12:24,104 Speaker 1: is chosen. In this case, it's Buffy and Summers, who's 282 00:12:24,104 --> 00:12:26,624 Speaker 1: played by Sarah Michelle Geller. She goes to this high 283 00:12:27,424 --> 00:12:30,504 Speaker 1: other vampires. Yeah, we can't get into the whole methology 284 00:12:30,544 --> 00:12:33,704 Speaker 1: of it now, oiless. Yeah, the whole idea is that 285 00:12:33,704 --> 00:12:35,584 Speaker 1: she goes to high school over a hellmuth and it's 286 00:12:35,584 --> 00:12:38,024 Speaker 1: a whole big thing. Anyway, So the show end in 287 00:12:38,024 --> 00:12:40,704 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Ever since then there's been this 288 00:12:40,904 --> 00:12:44,144 Speaker 1: huge because the fan around the show is just so intense. 289 00:12:44,184 --> 00:12:47,464 Speaker 1: It lives only I couldn't tell it lives on in 290 00:12:47,464 --> 00:12:50,104 Speaker 1: different forms. There was Angel, which was the spinoff series 291 00:12:50,144 --> 00:12:52,864 Speaker 1: which like it. Yes, it's one of my favorite shows 292 00:12:52,864 --> 00:12:53,184 Speaker 1: of all the time. 293 00:12:53,224 --> 00:12:56,344 Speaker 2: Are you getting wrapped up by a producers telling me 294 00:12:56,464 --> 00:12:59,264 Speaker 2: to splow down, telling me to come down? 295 00:13:02,904 --> 00:13:05,424 Speaker 1: I just got to camp down? Note everyone, Okay. So 296 00:13:05,624 --> 00:13:08,304 Speaker 1: ever since and there's been a huge fans around the show, 297 00:13:08,624 --> 00:13:11,424 Speaker 1: there's obviously the comic book series continued the story. There's 298 00:13:11,464 --> 00:13:13,224 Speaker 1: been a podcast series, they do conventions. 299 00:13:13,384 --> 00:13:15,904 Speaker 2: I'm assumer of indulged in all this content. 300 00:13:16,384 --> 00:13:18,264 Speaker 1: Actually no, I'm a bit of a Buffy the Vampire 301 00:13:18,264 --> 00:13:20,864 Speaker 1: Slayer purist. So for me, I'm just like it ended 302 00:13:20,904 --> 00:13:23,384 Speaker 1: at season seven and like love and that we just 303 00:13:23,424 --> 00:13:26,064 Speaker 1: pretend love and good wishes to everyone else who still 304 00:13:26,264 --> 00:13:28,224 Speaker 1: has that other contact. But for me, it's the show 305 00:13:28,264 --> 00:13:31,144 Speaker 1: and those actors and those writers, and that's it. So 306 00:13:31,384 --> 00:13:34,144 Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Geller for the last twenty something years has 307 00:13:34,224 --> 00:13:36,184 Speaker 1: been she always says like, oh, I don't think we 308 00:13:36,184 --> 00:13:38,704 Speaker 1: would do a reboot. Like the stories kind of ended, 309 00:13:38,704 --> 00:13:41,184 Speaker 1: we shouldn't bring it back now. And people have really 310 00:13:41,224 --> 00:13:43,664 Speaker 1: been calling for that to happen. And then in the 311 00:13:43,704 --> 00:13:45,064 Speaker 1: last couple of days, and then she. 312 00:13:45,064 --> 00:13:47,184 Speaker 2: Ran out of money no Emily, okay. 313 00:13:47,464 --> 00:13:49,544 Speaker 1: And then in the last couple of days, Sarah Michelle 314 00:13:49,544 --> 00:13:52,224 Speaker 1: Geller posted this to Instagram. Now I had to be 315 00:13:52,264 --> 00:13:54,664 Speaker 1: alerted to this because I don't personally follow Sarah Michelle 316 00:13:54,664 --> 00:13:57,784 Speaker 1: Geller on any social platforms or anyone who was invested 317 00:13:57,864 --> 00:14:00,304 Speaker 1: or who was on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, because I 318 00:14:00,344 --> 00:14:02,304 Speaker 1: don't want to know that Sarah Michelle Geller is a 319 00:14:02,344 --> 00:14:04,984 Speaker 1: real person, Like it's not my business to know about her, 320 00:14:04,984 --> 00:14:07,544 Speaker 1: because if she's real, then Buffy is not real. Do 321 00:14:07,584 --> 00:14:08,104 Speaker 1: you understand? 322 00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:10,984 Speaker 2: I mean, you didn't watch Scooby Doo. I didn't watch 323 00:14:10,984 --> 00:14:14,384 Speaker 2: Scooby Is that really confused? When you watched Scooby Do? 324 00:14:14,584 --> 00:14:18,464 Speaker 1: I understeel? Like, wh Buffy the basics of movie making? 325 00:14:18,624 --> 00:14:20,144 Speaker 1: I just don't. I just think that if you have 326 00:14:20,184 --> 00:14:22,744 Speaker 1: a favorite show and you love those characters, we shouldn't 327 00:14:22,744 --> 00:14:24,744 Speaker 1: really have a lot of access to the people who 328 00:14:24,784 --> 00:14:26,544 Speaker 1: play them, Like I don't want to see pictures of 329 00:14:26,584 --> 00:14:29,264 Speaker 1: her hanging out with her kids and her dog and 330 00:14:29,304 --> 00:14:31,264 Speaker 1: like cooking in her kitchen, Like that's not my business. 331 00:14:31,344 --> 00:14:33,504 Speaker 1: My only business is to know her as an actress, 332 00:14:33,704 --> 00:14:35,864 Speaker 1: which is why last year when she was in Sydney 333 00:14:36,144 --> 00:14:38,584 Speaker 1: and didn't interview her, no, no, no, I don't even 334 00:14:38,584 --> 00:14:40,624 Speaker 1: didn't interview her. I had to walk the streets near 335 00:14:40,664 --> 00:14:42,544 Speaker 1: my apartment between my apartment and the office and my 336 00:14:42,584 --> 00:14:44,744 Speaker 1: head down because she was going to all the restaurants 337 00:14:44,784 --> 00:14:47,384 Speaker 1: and posting from them. She's going to Chinchin, remember, yeah, 338 00:14:47,424 --> 00:14:47,864 Speaker 1: And although I. 339 00:14:47,824 --> 00:14:49,864 Speaker 2: Do you remember that, yeah, we nearly saw her. 340 00:14:50,024 --> 00:14:51,584 Speaker 1: I was like a prisoner in my own home. I 341 00:14:51,584 --> 00:14:53,704 Speaker 1: couldn't leave my home until Sarah Michelle Gella got out 342 00:14:53,704 --> 00:14:56,144 Speaker 1: of Sydney anywhere. I was so worried about running into 343 00:14:56,144 --> 00:15:00,184 Speaker 1: her anyway. So she posted her Instagram account. First of all, 344 00:15:00,224 --> 00:15:02,864 Speaker 1: she put up a really iconic moment from Buffy the 345 00:15:02,944 --> 00:15:04,944 Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer, which is a quote from the season one 346 00:15:04,984 --> 00:15:08,064 Speaker 1: where she says, if the apocalypse comes, beat me. It's 347 00:15:08,064 --> 00:15:08,984 Speaker 1: a lot of pager. 348 00:15:09,344 --> 00:15:11,944 Speaker 2: Oh beep me, yeah, oh okay, and it doesn't work 349 00:15:11,944 --> 00:15:12,824 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. 350 00:15:12,584 --> 00:15:14,464 Speaker 1: Five, no, no, no, but it was very iconic at the time. 351 00:15:14,584 --> 00:15:15,344 Speaker 2: It was a surgeon. 352 00:15:15,464 --> 00:15:17,304 Speaker 1: What she's saying is that the world ends call me, 353 00:15:17,344 --> 00:15:18,824 Speaker 1: and a lot of people think the world is ending 354 00:15:18,904 --> 00:15:20,464 Speaker 1: right now, which is why we're calling on her. 355 00:15:20,584 --> 00:15:22,224 Speaker 2: Do you think Kim Possible? 356 00:15:22,544 --> 00:15:28,624 Speaker 1: Was like, Mimi, actually, okay, please shut up? Okay, okay, 357 00:15:28,784 --> 00:15:30,944 Speaker 1: So she wrote on her Instagram account this week, so 358 00:15:31,504 --> 00:15:33,224 Speaker 1: you might have heard some news this week, but I 359 00:15:33,304 --> 00:15:36,144 Speaker 1: realized you haven't heard it from me. Three years ago, 360 00:15:36,224 --> 00:15:38,224 Speaker 1: I got a call from my dear friend and mentor, 361 00:15:38,344 --> 00:15:40,584 Speaker 1: Gail Berman. She told me that she wanted me to 362 00:15:40,624 --> 00:15:42,824 Speaker 1: sit down with Chloe's Out to hear her. I love 363 00:15:42,944 --> 00:15:45,424 Speaker 1: Chloe's Out. That's going to be important later on Hold 364 00:15:45,504 --> 00:15:48,104 Speaker 1: on today, sit down with Chloe's Out to hear her 365 00:15:48,104 --> 00:15:51,464 Speaker 1: take on a potential Buffy revival. I was blown away 366 00:15:51,504 --> 00:15:53,944 Speaker 1: that Chloe even knew who I was, But as I've 367 00:15:53,984 --> 00:15:56,304 Speaker 1: always done, I told Gail that I just didn't see 368 00:15:56,304 --> 00:15:58,824 Speaker 1: a way for the show to exist again. We'd always 369 00:15:58,864 --> 00:16:00,984 Speaker 1: been aligned on that, but this time I heard something 370 00:16:00,984 --> 00:16:04,664 Speaker 1: different in her voice. I eventually agreed to go, mainly 371 00:16:04,704 --> 00:16:07,704 Speaker 1: to meet Chloe, and our twenty minute coffee quickly turned 372 00:16:07,704 --> 00:16:11,064 Speaker 1: into a four hour adventure. We laughed, we cried, but 373 00:16:11,184 --> 00:16:13,984 Speaker 1: mostly we talked about how much this show means to us. 374 00:16:14,664 --> 00:16:16,144 Speaker 2: Cry, Oh my god, I wish you were there. 375 00:16:16,144 --> 00:16:18,744 Speaker 1: I'm not I would have passed away, but I do 376 00:16:18,784 --> 00:16:21,264 Speaker 1: wish they'd recorded it, and then Sarah Michelle Geller went 377 00:16:21,304 --> 00:16:23,104 Speaker 1: on to say, well, I didn't agree to everything in 378 00:16:23,144 --> 00:16:26,104 Speaker 1: that meeting. I did shock myself by agreeing to continue 379 00:16:26,144 --> 00:16:28,704 Speaker 1: the conversation. And then she went on to say that 380 00:16:28,744 --> 00:16:32,784 Speaker 1: the conversations have continued over the last couple of weeks 381 00:16:32,784 --> 00:16:35,704 Speaker 1: and they are working on something and they have landed 382 00:16:35,744 --> 00:16:38,624 Speaker 1: on an idea. And Sarah Michelle Geller ended the post 383 00:16:38,624 --> 00:16:40,824 Speaker 1: by saying, I've always listened to the fans and heard 384 00:16:40,824 --> 00:16:43,504 Speaker 1: your desire to revisit Buffy in her world, but it 385 00:16:43,584 --> 00:16:45,344 Speaker 1: was not something I could do unless I was sure 386 00:16:45,384 --> 00:16:47,584 Speaker 1: we would get it right. This has been a long 387 00:16:47,664 --> 00:16:50,064 Speaker 1: process and it's not over yet. I promise you it 388 00:16:50,104 --> 00:16:52,224 Speaker 1: will only make this show if I know we can 389 00:16:52,304 --> 00:16:52,824 Speaker 1: do it right. 390 00:16:53,224 --> 00:16:55,744 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm confused, what are they making the show or not. 391 00:16:55,864 --> 00:16:58,824 Speaker 1: This is the first time Sarah Michelle Geller has said 392 00:16:58,904 --> 00:17:01,384 Speaker 1: even yes to the idea of exploring this, and she's 393 00:17:01,464 --> 00:17:03,464 Speaker 1: met with Chloe's out that was really wanted to do it, 394 00:17:03,504 --> 00:17:07,824 Speaker 1: And I'm confused. Up, the idea is officially in development 395 00:17:07,864 --> 00:17:10,304 Speaker 1: and it's happening. It just means it's in development. Which 396 00:17:10,344 --> 00:17:12,744 Speaker 1: which is the furthest This idea of bringing Buffy back 397 00:17:12,944 --> 00:17:16,304 Speaker 1: has come in the last twenty years. Now Here's where 398 00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:19,224 Speaker 1: it gets very conflicting. Is up until this moment and 399 00:17:19,264 --> 00:17:22,824 Speaker 1: potentially still now, I, as Buffy the Vampire Slayers one 400 00:17:22,864 --> 00:17:25,104 Speaker 1: of the biggest fans in the world, I feel able 401 00:17:25,144 --> 00:17:27,904 Speaker 1: to say that up until now, I didn't think they 402 00:17:27,904 --> 00:17:28,984 Speaker 1: should bring that show back. 403 00:17:29,184 --> 00:17:31,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of diehard fans of shows don't like 404 00:17:32,184 --> 00:17:32,544 Speaker 2: a REBA. 405 00:17:32,704 --> 00:17:35,104 Speaker 1: I just think it's sometimes impossible to catch the magic 406 00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:37,424 Speaker 1: of a show that was a real time and place. 407 00:17:37,544 --> 00:17:39,624 Speaker 1: Not only that, there's so many moving parts to show 408 00:17:39,664 --> 00:17:42,224 Speaker 1: that aren't just Sarah Michelle Gally, Like, yes, you would 409 00:17:42,224 --> 00:17:45,304 Speaker 1: obviously need her to bring Buffy back, but you would 410 00:17:45,384 --> 00:17:48,144 Speaker 1: need also the original cast, and I'm sure some of 411 00:17:48,184 --> 00:17:49,664 Speaker 1: them will come back. But then you have people like 412 00:17:49,744 --> 00:17:52,784 Speaker 1: Nicholas Brendan, who played Xander, one of the main characters 413 00:17:52,824 --> 00:17:55,024 Speaker 1: on the show, one of the most beloved, who has 414 00:17:55,184 --> 00:17:57,024 Speaker 1: been in a lot of legal trouble and has had 415 00:17:57,064 --> 00:18:00,424 Speaker 1: a very public downfall and doesn't act anymore and is 416 00:18:00,424 --> 00:18:02,584 Speaker 1: not in contact with the main cast, And like, how 417 00:18:02,624 --> 00:18:04,944 Speaker 1: do you make a show like that without Xander? Do 418 00:18:04,944 --> 00:18:05,984 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and it's. 419 00:18:05,824 --> 00:18:08,024 Speaker 2: Also not just about the creatives on the show who 420 00:18:08,104 --> 00:18:09,664 Speaker 2: want to do the best possible. It's also about the 421 00:18:09,704 --> 00:18:12,344 Speaker 2: network that show Jamara, and like we talked about it 422 00:18:12,344 --> 00:18:15,464 Speaker 2: with the Lizzie Maguire reboot, how so much of the 423 00:18:15,504 --> 00:18:17,704 Speaker 2: network didn't want what was happening in the show. They 424 00:18:17,704 --> 00:18:20,224 Speaker 2: wanted to keep it like PG and then eventually that 425 00:18:20,384 --> 00:18:21,144 Speaker 2: just never happened. 426 00:18:21,264 --> 00:18:23,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So it kind of depends on who picks 427 00:18:23,544 --> 00:18:25,184 Speaker 1: it up. But I think obviously in this case, it 428 00:18:25,184 --> 00:18:28,224 Speaker 1: feels like Chloe and Sarah Michelle Geller would have creative control. 429 00:18:28,424 --> 00:18:31,824 Speaker 1: The other huge thing here is that Joss Whedon, who wrote, directed, 430 00:18:31,864 --> 00:18:34,704 Speaker 1: and made the first Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie and 431 00:18:34,824 --> 00:18:37,944 Speaker 1: was the creative force behind Buffy the Vampire Slayer and 432 00:18:38,024 --> 00:18:41,064 Speaker 1: behind Angel and behind Firefly and behind Dollhouse and every 433 00:18:41,064 --> 00:18:44,464 Speaker 1: TV show that I loved. It's like this man, you know, 434 00:18:44,504 --> 00:18:46,544 Speaker 1: he was the creative force behind this And I feel 435 00:18:46,584 --> 00:18:48,864 Speaker 1: like also he was the person that I like most 436 00:18:48,864 --> 00:18:51,824 Speaker 1: looked up do throughout my whole childhood, becoming an adult, 437 00:18:51,864 --> 00:18:54,104 Speaker 1: through like getting into writing about TV and movies and 438 00:18:54,144 --> 00:18:56,904 Speaker 1: like doing this podcast, like everything I learned about storytelling 439 00:18:56,904 --> 00:18:59,784 Speaker 1: came from this man, and in the last five years 440 00:18:59,864 --> 00:19:02,624 Speaker 1: or sorry, so many horrific things have come out about him, 441 00:19:02,984 --> 00:19:06,264 Speaker 1: and so he can't be involved in this, And it's 442 00:19:06,344 --> 00:19:08,504 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't want him. And also Sarah michaug Geller 443 00:19:08,544 --> 00:19:09,624 Speaker 1: is like, I wouldn't ever be in a room with 444 00:19:09,664 --> 00:19:11,664 Speaker 1: that man. Again, the rest of the cast have also 445 00:19:11,704 --> 00:19:13,584 Speaker 1: said and the other writers and people that he did 446 00:19:13,664 --> 00:19:16,144 Speaker 1: horrific things to behind the scenes. So you don't want 447 00:19:16,184 --> 00:19:18,744 Speaker 1: him to be involved in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But 448 00:19:18,784 --> 00:19:22,304 Speaker 1: also there's no denying that he was a big part 449 00:19:22,384 --> 00:19:23,784 Speaker 1: of Like he wasn't the only one of his there 450 00:19:23,784 --> 00:19:26,064 Speaker 1: were so many writers who have gone on to do 451 00:19:26,104 --> 00:19:28,424 Speaker 1: amazing things, Like so many of the writers from Buffy 452 00:19:28,424 --> 00:19:28,744 Speaker 1: went on to. 453 00:19:29,824 --> 00:19:31,864 Speaker 2: Change and pull out the more that the final product. 454 00:19:32,264 --> 00:19:34,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the thing is, like how do you 455 00:19:34,064 --> 00:19:37,624 Speaker 1: bring it back without the behind it? I am really scared. 456 00:19:37,744 --> 00:19:39,664 Speaker 1: I've always been a really big champion of like bringing 457 00:19:39,704 --> 00:19:42,224 Speaker 1: Buffy back in a different format, as in, like the 458 00:19:42,264 --> 00:19:44,864 Speaker 1: whole idea is that different Slayers come up. So I've 459 00:19:44,904 --> 00:19:47,744 Speaker 1: always thought that they should, like this generation of women 460 00:19:48,144 --> 00:19:50,584 Speaker 1: and men and everyone, like this generation needs that show 461 00:19:50,584 --> 00:19:52,984 Speaker 1: in their lives. But I've always been of the belief like, 462 00:19:53,264 --> 00:19:56,744 Speaker 1: bring it back with a different whole cast, a new, 463 00:19:56,784 --> 00:19:59,344 Speaker 1: more diverse cast, because like the first Buffy, you know, 464 00:19:59,384 --> 00:20:00,984 Speaker 1: Buffy did a lot of things that was groundbreaking, but 465 00:20:01,024 --> 00:20:02,944 Speaker 1: it wasn't very diverse in terms of like who the 466 00:20:02,984 --> 00:20:05,544 Speaker 1: actors were, and so I always think there's there was 467 00:20:05,624 --> 00:20:06,984 Speaker 1: room to do that. And I would have been really 468 00:20:07,024 --> 00:20:10,504 Speaker 1: supportive of like a new generation having their Buffy. A 469 00:20:10,504 --> 00:20:12,544 Speaker 1: little nervous about them bringing this back, like I feel 470 00:20:12,584 --> 00:20:14,904 Speaker 1: like this could kind of destroy the legacy a little bit. 471 00:20:15,064 --> 00:20:18,504 Speaker 1: Chloe's hours interesting though. I love anyone was going to 472 00:20:18,584 --> 00:20:20,544 Speaker 1: do it, I would say her because if you're not 473 00:20:20,544 --> 00:20:22,984 Speaker 1: across her name, she has done like a whole bunch 474 00:20:23,024 --> 00:20:24,744 Speaker 1: of work. But I guess no, Madland is what she's 475 00:20:24,784 --> 00:20:25,704 Speaker 1: really well known. 476 00:20:25,504 --> 00:20:26,384 Speaker 2: For and what she won. 477 00:20:26,664 --> 00:20:30,344 Speaker 1: She won Best Picture and Best Director, becoming only the 478 00:20:30,384 --> 00:20:32,544 Speaker 1: second woman to ever win Best Director and the first 479 00:20:32,544 --> 00:20:35,264 Speaker 1: woman of color. And that's what you mean making the 480 00:20:35,304 --> 00:20:36,024 Speaker 1: new Buffy show. 481 00:20:36,464 --> 00:20:37,984 Speaker 2: I feel if you hear her name, you're like, this 482 00:20:38,024 --> 00:20:38,504 Speaker 2: is gonna be good. 483 00:20:38,584 --> 00:20:41,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly have to be well. Also, she also 484 00:20:41,304 --> 00:20:44,424 Speaker 1: co wrote and directed the Eternals for the Marvels Universe, 485 00:20:44,824 --> 00:20:47,264 Speaker 1: and I know Eternals didn't perform very well, and I 486 00:20:47,464 --> 00:20:50,584 Speaker 1: love the I thought Eternals had just a layer of 487 00:20:50,704 --> 00:20:52,944 Speaker 1: It's hard because Joss Whedon has made all my favorite 488 00:20:52,984 --> 00:20:53,624 Speaker 1: Marvel movies. 489 00:20:54,184 --> 00:20:57,744 Speaker 2: It's also hard after Avengers End Game, like it was 490 00:20:57,784 --> 00:20:59,784 Speaker 2: one of the first movies that happened after Avengers. 491 00:20:59,864 --> 00:21:01,744 Speaker 1: But I thought she did a brilliant job. 492 00:21:01,584 --> 00:21:03,104 Speaker 2: Like beautiful, it was a beautiful. 493 00:21:02,824 --> 00:21:04,504 Speaker 1: Mane, but there's there's a lot of nuance and like 494 00:21:04,824 --> 00:21:07,744 Speaker 1: really intense storytelling in that that I think a lot 495 00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:10,024 Speaker 1: of people glossed over because it was introduction a lot 496 00:21:10,024 --> 00:21:12,264 Speaker 1: of new characters, and but yeah, I thought she did 497 00:21:12,264 --> 00:21:14,584 Speaker 1: an incredible job for that. So the idea that she 498 00:21:14,664 --> 00:21:16,944 Speaker 1: could be involved, and the idea that she said something 499 00:21:16,944 --> 00:21:18,824 Speaker 1: to Sarah Michelle Geller that had them sitting there for 500 00:21:18,864 --> 00:21:20,784 Speaker 1: four hours and crying and got her to say yes 501 00:21:20,824 --> 00:21:21,784 Speaker 1: for the first time ever. 502 00:21:23,944 --> 00:21:26,544 Speaker 2: I just want to say, Bradley, honest review coming up. 503 00:21:26,624 --> 00:21:28,504 Speaker 1: Absolutely not kind of say it because I was in 504 00:21:28,584 --> 00:21:30,584 Speaker 1: high school when it finished. I've actually never had a 505 00:21:30,584 --> 00:21:32,424 Speaker 1: full time job while Buffy's on the air, and I 506 00:21:32,464 --> 00:21:36,304 Speaker 1: actually don't think I should be expected Okay, yeah, maybe. 507 00:21:36,144 --> 00:21:38,624 Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll. 508 00:21:37,824 --> 00:21:42,464 Speaker 1: Do this expected to watch maybe at least notice. Yeah, well, 509 00:21:42,504 --> 00:21:44,424 Speaker 1: I mean we've got a few years notice. But anyway, 510 00:21:44,584 --> 00:21:48,864 Speaker 1: that's Vampire Slayer. I'm sorry for Like the I counted, 511 00:21:48,944 --> 00:21:54,184 Speaker 1: I've had thirty messages from spillers in the last weekly, 512 00:21:54,384 --> 00:21:56,024 Speaker 1: so sorry. I couldn't get back to all of you 513 00:21:56,144 --> 00:21:57,864 Speaker 1: or even open your messages. But it was just it 514 00:21:57,904 --> 00:22:00,064 Speaker 1: was too overwhelming on a personal level for me to 515 00:22:00,104 --> 00:22:00,664 Speaker 1: talk about it. 516 00:22:00,704 --> 00:22:01,304 Speaker 2: But that's fair. 517 00:22:02,624 --> 00:22:05,824 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I need you to watch it, please God. 518 00:22:06,264 --> 00:22:07,944 Speaker 2: I feel like I have to now I'll probably get 519 00:22:08,024 --> 00:22:10,904 Speaker 2: killed like Buffy Slade. 520 00:22:12,584 --> 00:22:16,304 Speaker 3: In life, there are memories that will never leave us. 521 00:22:17,424 --> 00:22:22,584 Speaker 3: I like you very much, just as you are, but 522 00:22:22,704 --> 00:22:30,864 Speaker 3: sometimes those memories are suddenly Bridgie, Oh we left with Bridget. 523 00:22:30,864 --> 00:22:32,904 Speaker 1: You're a widow with two wonderful children. 524 00:22:33,144 --> 00:22:34,104 Speaker 2: My advice to you. 525 00:22:34,064 --> 00:22:36,384 Speaker 3: Is put your own orxygen mask on first. 526 00:22:36,984 --> 00:22:37,944 Speaker 2: You just have to get late. 527 00:22:38,184 --> 00:22:41,744 Speaker 3: Oh my god, this kind of magical landry. 528 00:22:42,184 --> 00:22:47,584 Speaker 1: Hello, you can call me rockstar Bridget Jones that you 529 00:22:47,624 --> 00:22:51,704 Speaker 1: can call her up so the tree adorn us. If 530 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:55,704 Speaker 1: you don't shag, I will. How old are you twenty eight? 531 00:22:56,104 --> 00:22:59,624 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm just kidding. Twenty nine. 532 00:23:01,224 --> 00:23:04,064 Speaker 2: Earlier this week we had a date. We went to 533 00:23:04,584 --> 00:23:08,664 Speaker 2: the Australian premiere for Bridget Jones Mad About the Boy. 534 00:23:08,784 --> 00:23:10,304 Speaker 2: Is this the fourth Bridget Jones? 535 00:23:10,344 --> 00:23:12,664 Speaker 1: This movie is the fourth movie. So we have Bridget 536 00:23:12,704 --> 00:23:15,224 Speaker 1: Jones's Diary which came out in two thousand and one, 537 00:23:15,824 --> 00:23:18,104 Speaker 1: Bridget Jones The Edge of Reason two thousand and four, 538 00:23:18,344 --> 00:23:19,944 Speaker 1: then we take a little break and we go into 539 00:23:20,064 --> 00:23:23,704 Speaker 1: Bridget Jones Baby twenty sixteen, and now Bridget Jones Mad 540 00:23:23,744 --> 00:23:25,904 Speaker 1: About the Boy as the fourth book in the series 541 00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:27,864 Speaker 1: by Helen Fielding and also the fourth movie. 542 00:23:27,904 --> 00:23:30,824 Speaker 2: I also thought this movie was better than the last movie. 543 00:23:31,024 --> 00:23:32,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is not hard. 544 00:23:32,144 --> 00:23:35,544 Speaker 2: To do it, Okay, Sorry, sorry Patrick Dempsey. 545 00:23:35,864 --> 00:23:42,224 Speaker 1: Yeah RP. Patrick personally is fine. Part of a franchise 546 00:23:42,304 --> 00:23:43,264 Speaker 1: is gone. 547 00:23:43,384 --> 00:23:46,584 Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk quickly about our experience at 548 00:23:46,584 --> 00:23:50,424 Speaker 2: the premiere because I had a really good time and 549 00:23:50,464 --> 00:23:52,824 Speaker 2: it was a bit chaotic. I don't think I saw 550 00:23:52,984 --> 00:23:56,184 Speaker 2: so many celebrities in such a great viewing position. 551 00:23:56,424 --> 00:23:57,984 Speaker 1: Okay, so we have to sort of set the scene. 552 00:23:58,024 --> 00:23:59,824 Speaker 1: So it was at the Entertainment Quarter in Sydney, which 553 00:23:59,864 --> 00:24:02,304 Speaker 1: I actually love for a premier. Exist so much space, 554 00:24:02,824 --> 00:24:05,064 Speaker 1: and so they had the big purple carpets at the 555 00:24:05,064 --> 00:24:08,504 Speaker 1: front inside the premiere party. They had all these different 556 00:24:08,584 --> 00:24:13,064 Speaker 1: light up installations with like iconic Bridget Jones quotes. 557 00:24:12,864 --> 00:24:15,504 Speaker 2: Said they were so cute. I got a furer fear them. 558 00:24:15,664 --> 00:24:17,624 Speaker 1: A few of them, so the quotes about skirt off, 559 00:24:17,704 --> 00:24:19,584 Speaker 1: sick and kind the fuck on Bridge and all those 560 00:24:19,624 --> 00:24:21,664 Speaker 1: sorts of things. Also, as you walked in, they had 561 00:24:21,704 --> 00:24:24,024 Speaker 1: all these different cocktails and you had to get either 562 00:24:24,064 --> 00:24:27,984 Speaker 1: a smug married cocktail and the Singleton cocktail. Apparently the 563 00:24:28,024 --> 00:24:30,464 Speaker 1: smug married cocktail was very good, but I only drank 564 00:24:30,504 --> 00:24:34,304 Speaker 1: the Singleton cocktails out of just I guess championing like 565 00:24:34,344 --> 00:24:36,144 Speaker 1: Bridget Joones' original state, I. 566 00:24:36,104 --> 00:24:39,264 Speaker 2: Only drank the Singleton cocktails because they were vodka. That's 567 00:24:39,304 --> 00:24:40,144 Speaker 2: my favorite spit. 568 00:24:40,664 --> 00:24:42,184 Speaker 1: And then yes, so we had the whole cast there, 569 00:24:42,184 --> 00:24:44,984 Speaker 1: so of course we had Rene Zelwigger. Hugh Grant just 570 00:24:45,104 --> 00:24:47,984 Speaker 1: opted out that man was not getting on a plane press. 571 00:24:48,424 --> 00:24:51,544 Speaker 1: We also had Leo Woodle he plays Bridget's love interest 572 00:24:51,624 --> 00:24:54,184 Speaker 1: in the film. She would tell Edgieafour was there. He 573 00:24:54,264 --> 00:24:58,184 Speaker 1: plays mister Wallaker in the movie. And also Sally Phillips, 574 00:24:58,184 --> 00:25:00,504 Speaker 1: who I loved, was there because she plays Bridge Jones's 575 00:25:00,504 --> 00:25:02,664 Speaker 1: best friend. Yes, and I'm the original movie. 576 00:25:02,664 --> 00:25:04,184 Speaker 2: He always plays the funniest person. 577 00:25:04,184 --> 00:25:06,024 Speaker 1: She's so good and they're like really close friends in 578 00:25:06,104 --> 00:25:08,144 Speaker 1: real life. So I love that. So watching all the 579 00:25:08,144 --> 00:25:09,744 Speaker 1: slubs come down the red car. But okay, this is 580 00:25:09,744 --> 00:25:11,424 Speaker 1: when you and I slit up at the premiere party. 581 00:25:11,424 --> 00:25:12,304 Speaker 1: You want to explain why. 582 00:25:12,624 --> 00:25:14,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I found out with a lot of other 583 00:25:14,624 --> 00:25:17,104 Speaker 2: mummier people that there was a bit of a balcony 584 00:25:17,144 --> 00:25:19,144 Speaker 2: section that a lot of people didn't. Oh now, it 585 00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:20,424 Speaker 2: was just like kind to be spoiled whatever. 586 00:25:20,504 --> 00:25:22,504 Speaker 1: Listen to that balcony is in clear view. Can I 587 00:25:22,544 --> 00:25:23,864 Speaker 1: just tell you why you guys are up there? It's 588 00:25:23,864 --> 00:25:25,864 Speaker 1: because no one else wanted to be up there. I 589 00:25:25,944 --> 00:25:27,824 Speaker 1: went up there for a few minutes because we walked 590 00:25:27,864 --> 00:25:29,704 Speaker 1: in and got our drinks for taking pictures. And then 591 00:25:29,704 --> 00:25:31,664 Speaker 1: I said, as I always do, I'm always keeping track 592 00:25:31,704 --> 00:25:33,984 Speaker 1: of you of these things, where's Emily? And someone said, 593 00:25:34,024 --> 00:25:34,904 Speaker 1: she's upstairs. 594 00:25:34,984 --> 00:25:37,544 Speaker 2: Well, there's fun things to do. I like to explore it. 595 00:25:37,424 --> 00:25:39,744 Speaker 1: Wasn't fun up there, Emily. You've got the escalator and 596 00:25:39,744 --> 00:25:41,864 Speaker 1: then you're standing up on the balcony. You're looking down 597 00:25:41,904 --> 00:25:43,584 Speaker 1: at the carpet, but you're in the party. You're not 598 00:25:43,624 --> 00:25:46,344 Speaker 1: with the drinks are coming out to see the celest. 599 00:25:46,464 --> 00:25:48,824 Speaker 1: From my bird eye point of view, you looked like kids, 600 00:25:48,864 --> 00:25:51,344 Speaker 1: like the von Trapp family, kids hiding upstairs because they're 601 00:25:51,344 --> 00:25:52,504 Speaker 1: not allowed to come down to the ball. 602 00:25:52,704 --> 00:25:53,984 Speaker 2: But you know who walked past me? 603 00:25:54,464 --> 00:25:57,104 Speaker 1: He walked past me too. He was everywhere. Leo Woodall 604 00:25:57,224 --> 00:25:58,904 Speaker 1: was walking around everywhere. 605 00:25:58,984 --> 00:26:01,384 Speaker 2: Okay, well, we saw Leo Woodall on the carpet and 606 00:26:01,424 --> 00:26:03,624 Speaker 2: then he did a few interviews and then he rushed 607 00:26:03,624 --> 00:26:05,904 Speaker 2: past everyone else and rushed past all of us, and 608 00:26:05,984 --> 00:26:07,504 Speaker 2: he disappeared, and then he came back. 609 00:26:07,624 --> 00:26:09,904 Speaker 1: When you guys said, oh, Leo Woodell came upstairs, we 610 00:26:09,904 --> 00:26:11,824 Speaker 1: were where we were in rush past us. I was like, 611 00:26:11,864 --> 00:26:14,064 Speaker 1: that's so weird because I was standing with some people 612 00:26:14,104 --> 00:26:15,984 Speaker 1: in like a little corner of the premiere party, away 613 00:26:15,984 --> 00:26:17,824 Speaker 1: from the carpet. He rushed past us as well and 614 00:26:17,864 --> 00:26:19,584 Speaker 1: then came back. He also had something going on. 615 00:26:19,624 --> 00:26:21,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, some important phone calls to make. 616 00:26:22,024 --> 00:26:24,264 Speaker 1: It was also very hot, and there's a lot of 617 00:26:24,344 --> 00:26:26,584 Speaker 1: videos that actually we put up on our Instagram of 618 00:26:26,704 --> 00:26:30,984 Speaker 1: his publicist. They were sweating. I was dying. I was 619 00:26:31,064 --> 00:26:32,824 Speaker 1: dying at the heat. And I wasn't even walking there 620 00:26:32,824 --> 00:26:35,384 Speaker 1: a carpet in a suit like they were even inside 621 00:26:35,424 --> 00:26:37,624 Speaker 1: it was so hot. Again, guys, you think this job 622 00:26:37,664 --> 00:26:39,904 Speaker 1: is glamorous, and sometimes you just add a premiere. Sweating 623 00:26:39,984 --> 00:26:42,744 Speaker 1: next to RaSE Elwiger and sweating next to Renees ol 624 00:26:42,784 --> 00:26:44,704 Speaker 1: Wiger doesn't make it better. In fact, it makes it worse, 625 00:26:44,744 --> 00:26:45,584 Speaker 1: and you kind of feel like you have. 626 00:26:45,544 --> 00:26:47,304 Speaker 2: To apologize to them. You're like, I'm sorry. 627 00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone was apologizing to them. So Leo Woodle's publicist 628 00:26:50,824 --> 00:26:53,864 Speaker 1: kept like delicately dabbing his face with a tissue. What 629 00:26:53,944 --> 00:26:56,864 Speaker 1: a job, Renees Elwiga, I would sell that tissue again. 630 00:26:57,264 --> 00:26:59,664 Speaker 1: I'm sure you could probably find it. She probably would 631 00:26:59,664 --> 00:27:01,704 Speaker 1: have given it to you. Renees Elwiga was there and 632 00:27:01,744 --> 00:27:04,224 Speaker 1: kind of say like, I've met a lot of celebrities 633 00:27:04,264 --> 00:27:07,584 Speaker 1: in my time, a lot and a lot of them 634 00:27:07,624 --> 00:27:10,024 Speaker 1: aren't when you meet them what they portrayed to be 635 00:27:10,104 --> 00:27:12,704 Speaker 1: to the world. Renees Elwiga is one of the few 636 00:27:12,904 --> 00:27:16,664 Speaker 1: who is so much better in person and so much 637 00:27:16,744 --> 00:27:18,744 Speaker 1: better as a human being. Again, just from the brief 638 00:27:18,824 --> 00:27:21,104 Speaker 1: moments in time I've spent with her, then you would 639 00:27:21,144 --> 00:27:24,384 Speaker 1: think from her public persona she was my first big 640 00:27:24,424 --> 00:27:27,944 Speaker 1: celebrity interviewer. Yeah, she's the first celebrity I ever interviewed 641 00:27:28,184 --> 00:27:30,504 Speaker 1: before I even worked in entertainment journalism, and I had 642 00:27:30,544 --> 00:27:33,104 Speaker 1: no thought of working in entertainment journalism. It just worked out, 643 00:27:33,184 --> 00:27:35,864 Speaker 1: some weird twist of fate that I interviewed her for 644 00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:37,904 Speaker 1: the last Bridget Jones movie. It was the first time 645 00:27:37,904 --> 00:27:39,744 Speaker 1: i'd done a junker and I walked into that room 646 00:27:40,184 --> 00:27:41,944 Speaker 1: and I was like, I have no idea what I'm doing, 647 00:27:42,024 --> 00:27:44,584 Speaker 1: Like I was a crime police and news reporter for 648 00:27:44,624 --> 00:27:46,344 Speaker 1: ten years. I have no idea what I'm doing in here. 649 00:27:46,744 --> 00:27:48,464 Speaker 1: And she walked over to the door, was waiting for 650 00:27:48,464 --> 00:27:50,544 Speaker 1: me when I came in, hugged me, told me I 651 00:27:50,544 --> 00:27:52,624 Speaker 1: looked beautiful. I believed her. I didn't look beautiful, but 652 00:27:52,664 --> 00:27:55,064 Speaker 1: I believed her. And Patrick Dempsey was there and he 653 00:27:55,104 --> 00:27:56,704 Speaker 1: sung my amea to me, a't the whole other story, 654 00:27:56,984 --> 00:27:59,064 Speaker 1: And she just gave me the most interesting answers, and 655 00:27:59,104 --> 00:28:01,904 Speaker 1: she was so thoughtful and so kind, and every journalist 656 00:28:01,904 --> 00:28:04,624 Speaker 1: who interviewed her that day said the same thing. And 657 00:28:04,664 --> 00:28:06,384 Speaker 1: I actually think maybe that's one of the reasons why 658 00:28:06,424 --> 00:28:07,984 Speaker 1: I had such a good experience with her. Why I 659 00:28:08,024 --> 00:28:10,824 Speaker 1: couldn't entertainment journalism interesting because I was it's so fun, 660 00:28:10,824 --> 00:28:14,224 Speaker 1: like you watch this movie your career. Maybe I do. 661 00:28:14,264 --> 00:28:15,344 Speaker 2: Maybe she should have told her that. 662 00:28:16,104 --> 00:28:18,224 Speaker 1: She would have been really nice about that. So they 663 00:28:18,224 --> 00:28:20,104 Speaker 1: were all in the red carpet, and then they came 664 00:28:20,184 --> 00:28:23,584 Speaker 1: into the movie and Renee was getting really emotional. I 665 00:28:23,664 --> 00:28:25,544 Speaker 1: thought we were in different cinemas because we got separated. 666 00:28:25,664 --> 00:28:27,584 Speaker 1: Her whole family was there, yeah, yeah, her whole family 667 00:28:27,624 --> 00:28:29,144 Speaker 1: was there. Well not her whole family was like her 668 00:28:29,144 --> 00:28:31,464 Speaker 1: aunt and her nephews and their wives, And she was 669 00:28:31,464 --> 00:28:33,384 Speaker 1: getting quite emotional that they were in the room. And 670 00:28:33,424 --> 00:28:35,584 Speaker 1: she was also just getting emotional about Bridget Jones being 671 00:28:35,624 --> 00:28:36,944 Speaker 1: back and like how much people love it. 672 00:28:36,984 --> 00:28:40,704 Speaker 2: She loves that character so much, which I really enjoy seeing, 673 00:28:40,784 --> 00:28:43,464 Speaker 2: you know how you can tell some actors are just like, 674 00:28:43,464 --> 00:28:45,664 Speaker 2: I don't understand why everyone's obsessed with this person. 675 00:28:45,944 --> 00:28:48,144 Speaker 1: And you watch all these interviews with her, and she's 676 00:28:48,144 --> 00:28:50,424 Speaker 1: been obviously doing this for over twenty years now, and 677 00:28:50,584 --> 00:28:52,824 Speaker 1: she coulds ask silly questions and stuff, and people really 678 00:28:52,864 --> 00:28:56,224 Speaker 1: fawn over the character and she never ever like thinks 679 00:28:56,224 --> 00:28:58,824 Speaker 1: it's silly or makes people feel stupid for loving how 680 00:28:58,864 --> 00:29:01,024 Speaker 1: some people like are like, I mean, it's a bad example, 681 00:29:01,024 --> 00:29:03,904 Speaker 1: but like recently, Robert Pattinson is like, get over Twilight, 682 00:29:03,984 --> 00:29:06,264 Speaker 1: Like it's over and now when people cry to her 683 00:29:06,304 --> 00:29:08,224 Speaker 1: about Bridget Jones, She's like, yeah, I get it, it's 684 00:29:08,224 --> 00:29:11,224 Speaker 1: a big deal. Like she's so she loves and she 685 00:29:11,264 --> 00:29:13,664 Speaker 1: loves the fandom around Bridget. Yeah, which I think is 686 00:29:13,664 --> 00:29:17,064 Speaker 1: more important. So then we sit down to watch the movie. Okay, 687 00:29:17,224 --> 00:29:18,624 Speaker 1: honest thoughts, what did you think? 688 00:29:19,144 --> 00:29:22,784 Speaker 2: I freaking love that movie. I loved it so much. 689 00:29:22,824 --> 00:29:24,664 Speaker 1: Okay, Emily, I haven't talked about this again because we 690 00:29:24,664 --> 00:29:26,224 Speaker 1: sat separately, although you did take me home at an 691 00:29:26,264 --> 00:29:28,024 Speaker 1: uber because I couldn't get one, but we have, We've 692 00:29:28,064 --> 00:29:29,664 Speaker 1: waited till now to share our thoughts. 693 00:29:29,904 --> 00:29:32,784 Speaker 2: I thought it was so well done, and I know 694 00:29:32,864 --> 00:29:35,024 Speaker 2: it was a little bit critical of it when the 695 00:29:35,024 --> 00:29:37,784 Speaker 2: trailer came out because I was a bit like I 696 00:29:37,784 --> 00:29:41,184 Speaker 2: felt like the whole older woman dating a younger man 697 00:29:41,384 --> 00:29:43,224 Speaker 2: like her, she's a widow, she's dating a young man. 698 00:29:43,224 --> 00:29:45,224 Speaker 2: I thought that was so overplayed, and they just did 699 00:29:45,264 --> 00:29:48,904 Speaker 2: it in such a different, more fun, more exciting, more 700 00:29:48,984 --> 00:29:51,944 Speaker 2: real way that I was just so happy with. There 701 00:29:51,984 --> 00:29:53,904 Speaker 2: was a point where, like I teared up, like I 702 00:29:53,984 --> 00:29:55,544 Speaker 2: rarely tear up in movies like that. 703 00:29:55,744 --> 00:29:59,704 Speaker 1: So everyone around me was absolutely sobbing, not me, because 704 00:29:59,704 --> 00:30:02,064 Speaker 1: I personally only cry in Wicked and the Walking Dead 705 00:30:02,064 --> 00:30:04,984 Speaker 1: and Buffety. But I was quite emotionally moved, but people 706 00:30:05,024 --> 00:30:07,504 Speaker 1: around me were like heavy sobbing in the moon that. 707 00:30:07,744 --> 00:30:10,824 Speaker 2: It was quite emotional, especially like so in the end scenes. 708 00:30:10,864 --> 00:30:14,264 Speaker 2: Like no spoilers, but Hugh Grant's in it. Colin Firth 709 00:30:14,344 --> 00:30:15,224 Speaker 2: also appears in it. 710 00:30:15,344 --> 00:30:17,104 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, it's based on the book, which came out 711 00:30:17,184 --> 00:30:18,704 Speaker 1: years ago, and like stuff's in the trailers, so I 712 00:30:18,744 --> 00:30:21,344 Speaker 1: think we can give a little overview. So it's Bridget. 713 00:30:21,384 --> 00:30:23,184 Speaker 1: She's in her late forties. She's a single mom to 714 00:30:23,184 --> 00:30:26,864 Speaker 1: two kids because Mark Darcy has very sadly died, and. 715 00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:28,984 Speaker 2: She kind of humanitarian trip. 716 00:30:29,584 --> 00:30:32,344 Speaker 1: I mean that really killed me. Oh every time Colin 717 00:30:32,384 --> 00:30:35,224 Speaker 1: First's face flushed up on sidings there are some flashbacks, 718 00:30:35,304 --> 00:30:36,824 Speaker 1: I was like thatman, this is. 719 00:30:36,744 --> 00:30:39,584 Speaker 2: The man can act man like he he's so in 720 00:30:39,584 --> 00:30:40,064 Speaker 2: love with her. 721 00:30:40,184 --> 00:30:42,664 Speaker 1: And so this new movie is very much about Bridget 722 00:30:42,744 --> 00:30:44,584 Speaker 1: Jones kind of dipping her toe back into not just 723 00:30:44,584 --> 00:30:46,344 Speaker 1: the dating world, but also getting back into work and 724 00:30:46,384 --> 00:30:48,864 Speaker 1: being a single mom, having this hot love affair with 725 00:30:48,904 --> 00:30:51,144 Speaker 1: this younger guy and other potential of interest. We won't 726 00:30:51,144 --> 00:30:55,224 Speaker 1: give too much away. And it's interesting because I know 727 00:30:55,224 --> 00:30:57,304 Speaker 1: it's based on the book and also Helen Fielding, who 728 00:30:57,304 --> 00:30:59,624 Speaker 1: wrote the books, co wrote the script of the movie, 729 00:30:59,704 --> 00:31:01,544 Speaker 1: so it's very much in her voice and her tone, 730 00:31:01,584 --> 00:31:04,384 Speaker 1: and she created Bridget Jones. So as much as sometimes 731 00:31:04,424 --> 00:31:08,624 Speaker 1: I don't agree with where these franchises going, the fact 732 00:31:08,624 --> 00:31:11,504 Speaker 1: that the person who created her is having a say 733 00:31:11,544 --> 00:31:13,504 Speaker 1: over what happens in the last book in the movie, 734 00:31:13,544 --> 00:31:15,944 Speaker 1: because sometimes a character can be created and then it 735 00:31:15,944 --> 00:31:17,464 Speaker 1: gets bought by a studio and they can just make 736 00:31:17,464 --> 00:31:19,664 Speaker 1: as many sequels and new people come in to write it, 737 00:31:19,984 --> 00:31:21,664 Speaker 1: and that's where I think it goes off track. So 738 00:31:21,744 --> 00:31:24,264 Speaker 1: anytime I don't really agree where they're going with Bridget Jones, 739 00:31:24,304 --> 00:31:26,544 Speaker 1: I just remind myself that the woman who invented her 740 00:31:26,984 --> 00:31:30,024 Speaker 1: is still steering some of the ships, so like it 741 00:31:30,064 --> 00:31:33,064 Speaker 1: has to be what she says. It's real fan service 742 00:31:33,104 --> 00:31:36,664 Speaker 1: this movie. It's almost all fan service. Yeah, which isn't okay? 743 00:31:36,824 --> 00:31:38,784 Speaker 2: You like you don't like that? I love it. I 744 00:31:38,944 --> 00:31:40,224 Speaker 2: give you exactly what I want. 745 00:31:40,424 --> 00:31:43,504 Speaker 1: I think it's sometimes creating a movie that's made for 746 00:31:43,704 --> 00:31:47,104 Speaker 1: fans and based on nostalgia can get in the way 747 00:31:47,104 --> 00:31:49,984 Speaker 1: of like creative storytelling and like making a good movie 748 00:31:50,104 --> 00:31:52,024 Speaker 1: or like you know, killing your darlings and making the 749 00:31:52,104 --> 00:31:54,344 Speaker 1: choices that have to be made. But in this case, 750 00:31:54,384 --> 00:31:56,824 Speaker 1: I think like sometimes you also you just do get 751 00:31:56,824 --> 00:31:57,544 Speaker 1: a bit of a pass. 752 00:31:57,624 --> 00:31:59,864 Speaker 2: I think at this point with bridges zones especially, it's 753 00:31:59,864 --> 00:32:00,824 Speaker 2: like just time to give in. 754 00:32:01,144 --> 00:32:02,824 Speaker 1: I also just think that, yeah, you get a bit 755 00:32:02,864 --> 00:32:05,744 Speaker 1: of a pass sometimes if you're nostalgia for a franchise 756 00:32:05,784 --> 00:32:09,344 Speaker 1: and a character is so strong that over twenty years later, 757 00:32:09,464 --> 00:32:13,264 Speaker 1: there's still this tense appetite for it, then you sometimes 758 00:32:13,264 --> 00:32:15,504 Speaker 1: do get to rest on your laurels a little bit. 759 00:32:15,544 --> 00:32:17,944 Speaker 1: Like so much of what people loved about this new 760 00:32:17,984 --> 00:32:21,264 Speaker 1: Bridget Jones movie was there's so many callbacks to the 761 00:32:21,344 --> 00:32:23,584 Speaker 1: original movie or just like, you know, to the earl? 762 00:32:23,704 --> 00:32:26,584 Speaker 1: Is it so much the original movie from costume? Did 763 00:32:26,584 --> 00:32:28,264 Speaker 1: you see it? At one stage, she's putting on an 764 00:32:28,304 --> 00:32:30,224 Speaker 1: outfit and it's the outfit that she wears in the 765 00:32:30,224 --> 00:32:34,304 Speaker 1: first movie going into her new job at the TV station. Okay, 766 00:32:34,304 --> 00:32:36,784 Speaker 1: there's so many moments like that, and there's so many 767 00:32:36,784 --> 00:32:39,104 Speaker 1: like different characters pop up and make cameos from the 768 00:32:39,104 --> 00:32:41,384 Speaker 1: first movie. Could have done her hair a bit better, No, 769 00:32:41,424 --> 00:32:43,024 Speaker 1: But I think they were trying to make her relatable. 770 00:32:43,144 --> 00:32:43,984 Speaker 1: But it's also hard. 771 00:32:43,784 --> 00:32:47,544 Speaker 2: Because she's like things. 772 00:32:46,464 --> 00:32:49,224 Speaker 1: A thin, blonde, beautiful woman who obviously like has a 773 00:32:49,224 --> 00:32:51,224 Speaker 1: lot of money and lives in a beautiful London house. 774 00:32:51,264 --> 00:32:52,704 Speaker 1: But like then they just don't brush her hair and 775 00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:56,504 Speaker 1: they're like look relatable women. And I think, yeah, there's 776 00:32:56,504 --> 00:32:58,544 Speaker 1: so many callbacks to you know, the first movie and 777 00:32:58,584 --> 00:33:00,664 Speaker 1: the romance of that. And also, like I've got to say, 778 00:33:00,664 --> 00:33:03,424 Speaker 1: the Bridget Jones the original movie is as close to 779 00:33:03,464 --> 00:33:06,104 Speaker 1: a perfect movie as you'll get in terms of the characters, 780 00:33:06,144 --> 00:33:09,664 Speaker 1: the writing, the pacing, the payoff, Like everything's so incredible. 781 00:33:09,704 --> 00:33:12,184 Speaker 1: And this this movie just feels like it's a tribute 782 00:33:12,224 --> 00:33:14,264 Speaker 1: to that movie. Yeah, which isn't the worst thing. It 783 00:33:14,344 --> 00:33:16,024 Speaker 1: just it didn't feel to me that it was telling 784 00:33:16,064 --> 00:33:20,224 Speaker 1: its own story. But it's like rennae Zelwick is just 785 00:33:20,264 --> 00:33:23,344 Speaker 1: so good, just so in it. And it's interesting Hugh 786 00:33:23,384 --> 00:33:25,984 Speaker 1: Grant coming back because he wasn't in the last one 787 00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:29,024 Speaker 1: and he's in this one to an extent, and I 788 00:33:29,024 --> 00:33:30,744 Speaker 1: think it's really interesting how they. 789 00:33:30,704 --> 00:33:32,224 Speaker 2: He was in a way more than what I expected. 790 00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:35,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting how their like lives get weaved together. 791 00:33:35,624 --> 00:33:37,464 Speaker 1: And I really liked that. The only thing I think 792 00:33:37,504 --> 00:33:41,384 Speaker 1: is that the original Bridget Jones is subversive in some ways, 793 00:33:41,424 --> 00:33:43,024 Speaker 1: like it's not now, but it was at the time 794 00:33:43,024 --> 00:33:46,184 Speaker 1: of this idea of like a overweight single woman being 795 00:33:46,224 --> 00:33:48,104 Speaker 1: like the lead of a movie. Not that she was 796 00:33:48,264 --> 00:33:50,584 Speaker 1: overweight anyway, but again that's just that was just the 797 00:33:50,624 --> 00:33:53,744 Speaker 1: time that we were in Whereas now, I don't know, 798 00:33:53,984 --> 00:33:56,384 Speaker 1: it just kind of feels that idea of like it 799 00:33:56,464 --> 00:33:59,664 Speaker 1: didn't feel as subversive this time around, because in a way, 800 00:33:59,744 --> 00:34:01,864 Speaker 1: like Bridget Jones, the character did what a woman is 801 00:34:01,904 --> 00:34:03,584 Speaker 1: kind of supposed to do, like she got married, she 802 00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:06,104 Speaker 1: has kids, she has the house, and now there's this 803 00:34:06,144 --> 00:34:08,184 Speaker 1: whole thing on her having to find love again, so 804 00:34:08,224 --> 00:34:10,904 Speaker 1: she's complete, which is just a side thing, like it's 805 00:34:10,904 --> 00:34:12,784 Speaker 1: not about Bridget Jones. But if you put away all 806 00:34:12,864 --> 00:34:14,504 Speaker 1: that maybe it's getting too heavy. If you put away 807 00:34:14,544 --> 00:34:16,904 Speaker 1: all of that stuff, it's a really good movie. 808 00:34:17,064 --> 00:34:18,744 Speaker 2: Last thing I want to say about the movie is 809 00:34:18,744 --> 00:34:21,624 Speaker 2: that I feel like it handles grief in such a 810 00:34:21,784 --> 00:34:25,344 Speaker 2: unique way. It really does, and not just like Darcy, 811 00:34:25,544 --> 00:34:28,464 Speaker 2: like there's other points of very mentioned in the movie, 812 00:34:28,624 --> 00:34:31,824 Speaker 2: but it also shows like in the movies like Bridget Jones, 813 00:34:31,864 --> 00:34:34,304 Speaker 2: like she's built up to be like this kind of 814 00:34:34,304 --> 00:34:37,064 Speaker 2: disheveled woman, but yet every man falls in love with 815 00:34:37,104 --> 00:34:38,984 Speaker 2: her and loves her. And then I think what this 816 00:34:39,024 --> 00:34:42,664 Speaker 2: movie does really well is that sometimes life will just 817 00:34:42,704 --> 00:34:45,104 Speaker 2: like take like you want a completely different course and 818 00:34:45,144 --> 00:34:47,384 Speaker 2: you don't get to end up in that like happy 819 00:34:47,504 --> 00:34:49,424 Speaker 2: ending that you were promised in like I guess all 820 00:34:49,424 --> 00:34:51,304 Speaker 2: the previous movies, and I thought that was just really 821 00:34:51,344 --> 00:34:53,184 Speaker 2: clever but also a bit of a risk that they took. 822 00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:55,304 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look at the end of the day, I really 823 00:34:55,384 --> 00:34:56,824 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. We had like it was a whole big 824 00:34:56,824 --> 00:34:58,224 Speaker 1: group of us or we all went together. We had 825 00:34:58,224 --> 00:35:00,664 Speaker 1: a great time. So I'd highly recommend if you're a 826 00:35:00,664 --> 00:35:02,784 Speaker 1: Bridget Jones fan, going to see it in the cinema 827 00:35:02,824 --> 00:35:05,544 Speaker 1: so you can have that experience. So Bridge Jones Mad 828 00:35:05,544 --> 00:35:08,144 Speaker 1: About the Boy is out in cinemas this Thursday. Please 829 00:35:08,224 --> 00:35:10,064 Speaker 1: let Emily and I know what you think, because we're 830 00:35:10,104 --> 00:35:12,784 Speaker 1: just so just picar your opinion and keep talking about this. 831 00:35:13,184 --> 00:35:15,624 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today. 832 00:35:15,704 --> 00:35:17,864 Speaker 2: If you love listening to us, we would love for 833 00:35:17,984 --> 00:35:20,944 Speaker 2: you to give us a little rating and review wherever 834 00:35:20,984 --> 00:35:24,344 Speaker 2: you listen to your podcast, whether that Spotify, Google, Apple, 835 00:35:24,864 --> 00:35:26,144 Speaker 2: or if you're a bit lazy and you don't want 836 00:35:26,144 --> 00:35:27,704 Speaker 2: to give a reew. Just the five Stars will do. 837 00:35:27,784 --> 00:35:30,424 Speaker 2: It's one tap, you can do it. 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