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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 3: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it.

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to you, beauty.

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Speaker 2: This is the daily podcast for Your Face. I'm Kelly

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Speaker 2: mccaren hi and I am Sarah Maria Fad.

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Speaker 1: We are back.

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Speaker 3: We have united again.

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Speaker 1: We have united again.

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Speaker 2: We both brought our makeup bags and we're so excited

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Speaker 2: because we're talking all things eyes. Yes, love I makeup.

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Speaker 2: Both us love makeup in general. Yes. So we are

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Speaker 2: going to sit down and we're going to give our

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Speaker 2: top tips and tricks, our top product recommendations, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about our signature eye looks.

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Speaker 3: You know me, I love random stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so this is I reckon you're going to be.

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Speaker 2: You're going to have some really interesting things.

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Speaker 3: I made sure just for you. I brought random up.

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Speaker 2: I had to find the liner in my bad.

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Speaker 1: What would you say your signature look for every day?

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Speaker 3: This for me right now, for example, putting the bronzer

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Speaker 3: on the eye, something that's like.

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Speaker 2: Soft but they're like the soft brown smoky. Yeah, soft

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Speaker 2: smoky kind of look. Brown's are a big one. I

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Speaker 2: don't necessarily use harsh blacks. It's like when you look

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Speaker 2: at the eye, it's not a very sharp defined look

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Speaker 2: on me. People look good with harsh black. No, the

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Speaker 2: scar are fine, but not shadow.

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Speaker 3: You can do it, but it takes a certain type

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Speaker 3: of eye, like it's really particular. And so for me,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of like that kind of lifted, fresh, soft

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Speaker 3: smoky brown look for me. And if I'm going out

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Speaker 3: in the evening, I will just amp that up and

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Speaker 3: then add the eyeliner sort of look.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 1: What I've got today.

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Speaker 3: Is pretty much my signature look. Love a lash. I

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Speaker 3: always have eyelash extension, so it's all about just lifting

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Speaker 3: like a baby doll eye. I love the big doll

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Speaker 2: So do I actually my signature look, though, well, today

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Speaker 2: it's definitely not it because today I had two minutes

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Speaker 2: to do my makeup, so it would be bright, fun

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Speaker 2: and bold, and I love playing, so I always have

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Speaker 2: different looks basically, So I don't really have a signature

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Speaker 2: I look. My signature I look would be you never

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Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you like pop up surprise.

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Speaker 2: I generally also like will go off my outfit. So

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Speaker 2: if I was going to have done like a proper

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Speaker 2: eye look today, I probably would have done like a

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Speaker 2: blue floating liner or like a smoked out blue somewhere,

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Speaker 2: just something because it would have gone with my dress.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you like to color match, yes it see I'm

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Speaker 3: would always be like, show me what you're wearing, okay,

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Speaker 3: and we'll like tie in what you're doing, so you've

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Speaker 3: got those sins. If I'm going out in the evening,

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Speaker 1: Show me your random products.

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Speaker 2: We each were asked to bring six things in that

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Speaker 2: we love to help us achieve our eye looks. I

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Speaker 2: probably brought more than six, well I did, but like

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Speaker 2: I bought six categories.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I feel.

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Speaker 3: Like so the Morphy Eyes shadd palette. This one is

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Speaker 3: the Nature Glow. You will never use all of them.

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Speaker 3: And it's like forty four bucks for the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: And it's all that is a well loved palette. That's

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Speaker 3: like my favorite all.

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Speaker 1: Ploortifour or breath Autumn. Yes warm.

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Speaker 3: What I love is we're doing this, but we have

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Speaker 3: Shuder for the simple fact that it's a good price

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Speaker 2: No, no, no time for that, or it's really hard

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Speaker 3: Or absolutely I hate that and the way I apply it.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to brushes, I am the biggest person

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Speaker 3: that's like, yeah, brushes don't need to be expensive. I'm

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Speaker 2: You ever cut your own? No, I've cut something into

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Speaker 3: No, because the style that I want, if I cut it,

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Speaker 3: if I cut it will be too harsh. For example,

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Speaker 3: a lot of my eye shadow brushes are like fluffy,

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Speaker 3: so they're the round ones. Yeah, and so the way

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Speaker 3: I apply that, I'm like literally putting it on my

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Speaker 3: So if you're not someone who's confident with applying your

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Speaker 1: So where are yours from?

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Speaker 3: The names are already gone, but I'm pretty sure this

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Speaker 3: is Zoeva, Yes, and you know what they're cheap? Got

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Speaker 1: Pack I have that. Do you think they're cheap?

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Speaker 1: Was, yeah, oh I thought they were quite expensive.

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Speaker 2: No, it's an expensive makeup brush for one, oh babe.

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Speaker 3: Some brushes you're paying one hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 2: For per brush, Like oh my, if you want like

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Speaker 2: you might be getting like a Japanese kabuki brush and

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Speaker 1: Do that's like dirt dirt cheap.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I have bought the cheapies on like

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Speaker 3: Amazon Bay and Amazon.

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Speaker 1: And suggest it I think one of the brands.

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Speaker 3: But they're exactly the same.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: They are the same in terms of quality, Like the

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Speaker 3: The ones that kind of like replicate them, I feel

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Speaker 3: I think the brushes are worth spending money. When you've

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Speaker 3: she's got her like magnetic brush collection. You feel the quality,

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Speaker 3: your money if you look after them. I'm a LASH person,

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Speaker 3: as you know, big, big, big Lash person.

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Speaker 1: You get Lash extensions.

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Speaker 3: I get Lash extensions, but sometimes I'm away on holiday

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Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna have lushes very soon.

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Speaker 3: So I found this and it pretty much imitates my

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Speaker 3: Lash extensions. It's by Model Rock, like.

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Speaker 3: I think you can price sign I always buy them

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Speaker 1: Ah, they're beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Right, and they have the softness and fluffiness as if

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Speaker 3: it's an eyelash extension. So when I'm putting them in

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Speaker 3: And the fact that it's not individuals like small clusters.

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Speaker 3: This is a strip slash adhesive. They have obviously eyelash

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Speaker 3: Much easy because of the shape and so you're putting

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Speaker 3: So that makes it really easy for you to use. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Love love love that if you need to get lashes

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Speaker 3: makeup lashes. Sometimes it's all you need. So if you

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Speaker 3: just put a little effort in your lashes, you're good.

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Speaker 3: If you are like me and your lashes do not

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Speaker 3: curl when you have your false slashes on. This eyelash curler,

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Speaker 1: You, babe. So this why is that? Yes? See how little?

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Speaker 1: I've never seen that before.

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Speaker 3: It's like a centimeter wide, right, and it is designed

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Speaker 3: for you to curl your natural slashes into fake lashes.

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Speaker 1: So that's what that's for. So it clamps them together. Kind.

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Speaker 3: So you've got your lashes on already, Let's say you

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Speaker 3: put your mascara on. You're about to put your mascara on,

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Speaker 3: then you go in and curl every section and you

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Speaker 1: That's so cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm such a big lash person.

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Speaker 2: Muscara love Laura merc Yeah, Muscara, that is a well

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Speaker 2: loved mascara.

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Speaker 3: And especially because again I've got the eyelash extensions. I

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Speaker 3: don't use them too often. I used a little bit

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Speaker 3: today because I've got the eye shadow. The powder onto

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Speaker 3: my lashes. Yep, I like the wand.

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Speaker 2: It's like a twirly shaped wand and so I find

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Speaker 2: it really really nice. I don't find the texture to

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Speaker 2: That one's called and then this one's the lux Crease.

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Speaker 2: And then for lashes, I love the tart tubular mascara.

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Speaker 2: They're little socks that cover your lash and then you

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Speaker 3: Snap mustn't smudge at all.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of In

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Speaker 2: Her Bag. I'll be back tomorrow for Spendy Savie and

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Speaker 1: Bye