1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,064 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,144 --> 00:00:18,824 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,904 --> 00:00:27,024 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:27,024 --> 00:00:30,184 Speaker 1: the Spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodney 5 00:00:30,184 --> 00:00:33,104 Speaker 1: and and on today's show, we have a topic I 6 00:00:33,144 --> 00:00:35,744 Speaker 1: have been dying to do since we found out the 7 00:00:35,744 --> 00:00:38,704 Speaker 1: release date for this show. It is our brutally honest 8 00:00:38,744 --> 00:00:42,024 Speaker 1: review of Emily in Paris season four. There will be 9 00:00:42,264 --> 00:00:44,544 Speaker 1: light spoilers, I guess we're going to talk about the show, 10 00:00:44,704 --> 00:00:46,504 Speaker 1: so just be aware, but we're gonna go through the 11 00:00:46,544 --> 00:00:49,824 Speaker 1: highs lows theories. There is so much to talk about. 12 00:00:49,864 --> 00:00:51,904 Speaker 1: Things are going to get emotional and then stick around 13 00:00:51,904 --> 00:00:54,104 Speaker 1: for wee can watch because we've had some good ones 14 00:00:54,104 --> 00:00:54,824 Speaker 1: this week as well. 15 00:00:54,944 --> 00:00:56,744 Speaker 2: I've got a big story from my one and. 16 00:00:56,744 --> 00:00:59,224 Speaker 1: I have a movie I've been dying to tell people about. 17 00:00:59,344 --> 00:01:00,544 Speaker 1: So anyway, coming up. 18 00:01:00,424 --> 00:01:03,864 Speaker 2: First, one of the best interviewers of our generation. I'm 19 00:01:03,904 --> 00:01:05,784 Speaker 2: going to put it out there, z way. 20 00:01:05,664 --> 00:01:07,664 Speaker 1: One hundred percent agree. 21 00:01:07,704 --> 00:01:11,344 Speaker 2: She has just posted an eighteen minute interview with alleged 22 00:01:11,384 --> 00:01:16,544 Speaker 2: German heiress, scammer and fraudster Anna Delby or Anna Surrogan whoever. 23 00:01:16,704 --> 00:01:18,784 Speaker 2: I think she still goes by Eda Delta whoever you 24 00:01:18,824 --> 00:01:20,784 Speaker 2: want to believe. So, if you don't know ze Way, 25 00:01:20,944 --> 00:01:25,144 Speaker 2: she is an American influencer. She's so funny, so well researched, 26 00:01:25,384 --> 00:01:28,784 Speaker 2: and she's known for kind of calling controversial celebrities out 27 00:01:28,784 --> 00:01:32,104 Speaker 2: on their bullshit. One of my favorite interviews she did 28 00:01:32,464 --> 00:01:34,104 Speaker 2: was with Chet Hanks. 29 00:01:33,904 --> 00:01:35,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom Hanks's son. 30 00:01:36,024 --> 00:01:38,344 Speaker 2: It is so good. Definitely check her out. She's on 31 00:01:38,384 --> 00:01:41,024 Speaker 2: YouTube as well as TikTok and Instagram. She has two 32 00:01:41,104 --> 00:01:44,504 Speaker 2: interview series. One is called Baited Yeah, and one is 33 00:01:44,584 --> 00:01:46,944 Speaker 2: called Hard Hitting Questions, which is the one she did 34 00:01:46,984 --> 00:01:47,424 Speaker 2: with Anna. 35 00:01:47,904 --> 00:01:50,464 Speaker 1: Have you watched this interview? I've watched this particular one, 36 00:01:50,504 --> 00:01:53,024 Speaker 1: but I have consumed everything else that zee Way has 37 00:01:53,024 --> 00:01:55,184 Speaker 1: ever put out, because yeah, she did have her own 38 00:01:55,224 --> 00:01:57,464 Speaker 1: talk show for a while and I think that that ended. 39 00:01:57,504 --> 00:01:59,704 Speaker 1: Now she does it all on her social platforms. But 40 00:01:59,744 --> 00:02:02,104 Speaker 1: she's just no one for sitting down and asking the 41 00:02:02,144 --> 00:02:04,384 Speaker 1: hard hitting questions, but in such a comedic way. And 42 00:02:04,424 --> 00:02:06,704 Speaker 1: I love how the way she like edits the videos 43 00:02:06,984 --> 00:02:08,624 Speaker 1: in terms of like the sounds of the crickets or 44 00:02:08,744 --> 00:02:10,384 Speaker 1: like the oh kind of you know that's sound in 45 00:02:10,464 --> 00:02:12,944 Speaker 1: the background and she'll say something like someone will be 46 00:02:12,984 --> 00:02:14,664 Speaker 1: on and they'll be trying to promote their new show 47 00:02:14,744 --> 00:02:17,024 Speaker 1: or whatever, and she's like, Okay, how many white friends 48 00:02:17,064 --> 00:02:19,304 Speaker 1: do you have? How many friends of color? Can you 49 00:02:19,424 --> 00:02:21,624 Speaker 1: name them? And the person will be like what, And 50 00:02:21,704 --> 00:02:23,024 Speaker 1: it's just it's so good. 51 00:02:23,304 --> 00:02:25,904 Speaker 2: It is so brilliant, And I think Anna was like 52 00:02:25,944 --> 00:02:28,904 Speaker 2: the perfect type of guest for her. Yeah, because as 53 00:02:29,024 --> 00:02:32,224 Speaker 2: we've talked about, Annadela, VI's now on Dancing at the Stars, 54 00:02:32,304 --> 00:02:34,704 Speaker 2: you wear, so she's getting kind of, like I want 55 00:02:34,704 --> 00:02:36,824 Speaker 2: to say, she is getting quite a good edit right 56 00:02:36,824 --> 00:02:38,544 Speaker 2: now of being a celebrity. 57 00:02:39,264 --> 00:02:41,144 Speaker 1: Even though we talked on a previous episode about the 58 00:02:41,184 --> 00:02:45,104 Speaker 1: slightly problematic nature of people who were detained by ice 59 00:02:45,144 --> 00:02:47,064 Speaker 1: and not allowed to leave their homes and then someone 60 00:02:47,104 --> 00:02:50,024 Speaker 1: who's given the opportunity to be on Dancing the Stars, 61 00:02:50,064 --> 00:02:51,504 Speaker 1: so very different rules there. 62 00:02:51,384 --> 00:02:54,584 Speaker 2: Which is exactly how z Way touches that topic in 63 00:02:54,624 --> 00:02:57,704 Speaker 2: an interview without actually touching it. So she does ask 64 00:02:57,824 --> 00:03:00,064 Speaker 2: questions I kind of allude to, like why the hell 65 00:03:00,144 --> 00:03:02,504 Speaker 2: are you able to even do this interview, and she 66 00:03:02,624 --> 00:03:04,784 Speaker 2: just kind of lets the commenters and like the people 67 00:03:04,824 --> 00:03:07,104 Speaker 2: watching it figure it out themselves and they carry on 68 00:03:07,144 --> 00:03:08,184 Speaker 2: that conversation in the comments. 69 00:03:08,224 --> 00:03:09,464 Speaker 1: She does it so brilliantly. 70 00:03:09,984 --> 00:03:13,784 Speaker 2: But the whole interview is so funny from exactly what 71 00:03:13,784 --> 00:03:16,304 Speaker 2: you said, Elbie, like the edits like every time Anna talk, 72 00:03:16,424 --> 00:03:18,944 Speaker 2: she has like a jail cell like around her. 73 00:03:20,704 --> 00:03:22,904 Speaker 1: It is so good, so good. 74 00:03:23,144 --> 00:03:25,384 Speaker 2: So she does this on her socials, but this interview 75 00:03:25,384 --> 00:03:27,104 Speaker 2: had to take place in Anna's house because she is 76 00:03:27,144 --> 00:03:29,944 Speaker 2: on How's Arrest. I'm just gonna read out some of 77 00:03:29,984 --> 00:03:32,504 Speaker 2: the best questions, like I thought she asked. One of 78 00:03:32,504 --> 00:03:36,264 Speaker 2: the questions is pretend you're teaching a class on master manipulation? 79 00:03:36,384 --> 00:03:40,464 Speaker 2: What lesson are you teaching me? And there's like look 80 00:03:40,504 --> 00:03:43,064 Speaker 2: people in the eye and then her own wages like 81 00:03:43,224 --> 00:03:45,384 Speaker 2: stare at each other for a few minutes. So good, 82 00:03:45,584 --> 00:03:48,504 Speaker 2: it's so funny. Also, Anna is so nervous in this 83 00:03:48,544 --> 00:03:51,584 Speaker 2: whole interview. She's laughing like that nervous laughter through hour. 84 00:03:51,704 --> 00:03:53,464 Speaker 1: But she does it in all interviews. I remember when 85 00:03:53,504 --> 00:03:54,984 Speaker 1: she did like a long form one to like call 86 00:03:54,984 --> 00:03:58,384 Speaker 1: her Daddy a while ago, and she just let this nervous, 87 00:03:58,424 --> 00:04:01,944 Speaker 1: intense laughter all the way through. And maybe you don't 88 00:04:01,984 --> 00:04:03,944 Speaker 1: have to say yes, yeah, I don't know if she 89 00:04:03,984 --> 00:04:05,944 Speaker 1: wants the fame. That's the whole point of doing this. 90 00:04:06,104 --> 00:04:08,424 Speaker 1: But then when she gets there, she's like, these interviewers 91 00:04:08,464 --> 00:04:11,504 Speaker 1: will ask her serious questions, like, even though Zway makes 92 00:04:11,544 --> 00:04:14,744 Speaker 1: it funny, there's some interesting questions there, and she'll just 93 00:04:14,824 --> 00:04:17,384 Speaker 1: laugh and go, ha, people are silly, and it's like, no, girl, 94 00:04:17,824 --> 00:04:20,544 Speaker 1: you just you defulted a lot of people and there's 95 00:04:20,624 --> 00:04:21,504 Speaker 1: something going on here. 96 00:04:21,664 --> 00:04:23,344 Speaker 2: The best thing about ze Way, though, and how she 97 00:04:23,464 --> 00:04:27,384 Speaker 2: handles Anna's nervous laughter, is that every time Anna nervously laughed, 98 00:04:27,464 --> 00:04:30,864 Speaker 2: zee Way would copy her and then they'd just be 99 00:04:31,024 --> 00:04:33,464 Speaker 2: back and forth laughing, and she just hold on until 100 00:04:33,464 --> 00:04:34,184 Speaker 2: Anna cracked. 101 00:04:34,224 --> 00:04:35,824 Speaker 1: It is so good. Wow. 102 00:04:35,864 --> 00:04:39,144 Speaker 2: My other favorite question is she said, you've said you 103 00:04:39,184 --> 00:04:41,664 Speaker 2: don't want to be famous, but one of the conditions 104 00:04:41,664 --> 00:04:44,904 Speaker 2: of this interview was that we get paparazzi together, so 105 00:04:44,944 --> 00:04:47,184 Speaker 2: you do want to be famous. And I was like, no, 106 00:04:47,224 --> 00:04:49,024 Speaker 2: I just don't want to waste like a good hair 107 00:04:49,064 --> 00:04:51,784 Speaker 2: and makeup. And then she's like, oh, so you step 108 00:04:51,784 --> 00:04:55,024 Speaker 2: outside for paparazzi and Anna's like, yeah, I do. And 109 00:04:55,024 --> 00:04:57,064 Speaker 2: then she was like, what rule is this in the 110 00:04:57,104 --> 00:04:59,664 Speaker 2: white privileged American handbook that says you can be on 111 00:04:59,744 --> 00:05:02,824 Speaker 2: house arrests and also step outside for paparazi. 112 00:05:02,664 --> 00:05:04,624 Speaker 1: Is what I've been saying. This is what would be 113 00:05:04,704 --> 00:05:07,464 Speaker 1: Goldberg was saying, and everyone else is just like, it's 114 00:05:07,504 --> 00:05:10,064 Speaker 1: all funny games until you're like you were getting weight 115 00:05:10,464 --> 00:05:14,064 Speaker 1: crazy special privilege as the woman. 116 00:05:13,824 --> 00:05:16,104 Speaker 2: Rule in the White Privileged American Handbook. I think we're 117 00:05:16,104 --> 00:05:18,064 Speaker 2: going to bring up a lot on this podcast. But 118 00:05:18,104 --> 00:05:20,504 Speaker 2: then Anna said, actually, I don't actually step outside, and 119 00:05:20,544 --> 00:05:23,504 Speaker 2: then she immediately cuts to all these Paparatti photus. 120 00:05:23,224 --> 00:05:24,344 Speaker 1: For her outside. 121 00:05:24,624 --> 00:05:27,584 Speaker 2: So, as we mentioned before, the whole interview is really 122 00:05:27,624 --> 00:05:30,624 Speaker 2: funny and light, but the questions that she's asking like 123 00:05:30,704 --> 00:05:34,344 Speaker 2: forces Anna to answer some questions that do actually make 124 00:05:34,384 --> 00:05:36,744 Speaker 2: her look bad, which I don't think any other interviewer 125 00:05:36,784 --> 00:05:39,384 Speaker 2: has been able to do since, like since she had 126 00:05:39,424 --> 00:05:42,104 Speaker 2: started getting on this famous bandwagon, after the limited series 127 00:05:42,144 --> 00:05:45,144 Speaker 2: came out and after she's dancing with the Stars. And 128 00:05:45,184 --> 00:05:47,304 Speaker 2: I really encourage you to watch the whole interview, but 129 00:05:47,384 --> 00:05:49,744 Speaker 2: also look at the comments because that's where the deeper 130 00:05:49,784 --> 00:05:52,744 Speaker 2: conversation is happening on, like how the hell is anadelavy 131 00:05:52,784 --> 00:05:56,064 Speaker 2: able to do all of this and yet immigrants, especially 132 00:05:56,144 --> 00:05:59,984 Speaker 2: immigrants of color, immediately get deportated if something happens. 133 00:05:59,584 --> 00:06:01,704 Speaker 1: Exactly, and z Way is like the perfect person to 134 00:06:01,744 --> 00:06:03,744 Speaker 1: be asking those questions because she does it with humor. 135 00:06:03,824 --> 00:06:05,904 Speaker 1: Be also, her facts are correct. 136 00:06:05,544 --> 00:06:07,464 Speaker 2: Her facts a rah, she's well researched. 137 00:06:16,424 --> 00:06:19,264 Speaker 1: Well, it's time for our really honest review of Emily 138 00:06:19,384 --> 00:06:22,704 Speaker 1: in Paris Season four, Parts one and two, because Netflix 139 00:06:22,744 --> 00:06:25,784 Speaker 1: pulled their new trick of releasing it across two months, 140 00:06:25,904 --> 00:06:28,344 Speaker 1: and look at worked because they had their first big, 141 00:06:28,464 --> 00:06:31,824 Speaker 1: glitzy star setted premiere and big press two with the 142 00:06:31,864 --> 00:06:34,584 Speaker 1: cast waited a few weeks, did the whole thing again 143 00:06:34,624 --> 00:06:37,024 Speaker 1: in Rome, for which we weren't invited to but that's fine, 144 00:06:37,104 --> 00:06:40,784 Speaker 1: that's a story for another day, and then had this 145 00:06:40,864 --> 00:06:43,944 Speaker 1: whole big like press run again. I personally quite liked 146 00:06:43,944 --> 00:06:45,664 Speaker 1: this two part release because it gave me a bit 147 00:06:45,704 --> 00:06:47,624 Speaker 1: of time to kind of sit with the information, sit 148 00:06:47,664 --> 00:06:50,584 Speaker 1: with the characters. And there was such a build up 149 00:06:50,624 --> 00:06:54,184 Speaker 1: to the end of season four, Part one, when it 150 00:06:54,264 --> 00:06:58,824 Speaker 1: was Gabrielle and Emily sharing that passionate kiss after the 151 00:06:58,864 --> 00:07:01,864 Speaker 1: Masquerade ball us that kind of helping jog your memory of. 152 00:07:01,824 --> 00:07:05,544 Speaker 2: Rest So spillers, I didn't watch the separate parts, so 153 00:07:05,584 --> 00:07:07,944 Speaker 2: when part one came out, I didn't watch it. I 154 00:07:07,984 --> 00:07:10,104 Speaker 2: only waited till Part two came out before I watched 155 00:07:10,104 --> 00:07:13,264 Speaker 2: the whole seasons. I actually didn't know where part one ended, 156 00:07:13,384 --> 00:07:17,064 Speaker 2: so it was the Masquerade Ball, yes, but Alfie accidentally kisses. 157 00:07:16,704 --> 00:07:19,744 Speaker 1: The wrong person. Yes, and then it picks up with 158 00:07:19,744 --> 00:07:22,384 Speaker 1: the Christmas episode after that, so she don't only get 159 00:07:22,384 --> 00:07:24,664 Speaker 1: to have a lot of time with Emily and Gabrielle 160 00:07:24,664 --> 00:07:26,784 Speaker 1: as a couple. We've got flip sides of this is 161 00:07:26,824 --> 00:07:28,264 Speaker 1: that you've kind of watched it once all the way 162 00:07:28,304 --> 00:07:30,984 Speaker 1: through and you have a semi very slight grasp of 163 00:07:31,024 --> 00:07:33,104 Speaker 1: who everyone is and what's happening. I have watched every 164 00:07:33,144 --> 00:07:36,264 Speaker 1: episode multiple times because I find this show so soothing 165 00:07:36,304 --> 00:07:38,264 Speaker 1: and delightful. So you know, we're bringing the two ends 166 00:07:38,264 --> 00:07:41,144 Speaker 1: of the spectrum. So in season four, going back to 167 00:07:41,624 --> 00:07:44,064 Speaker 1: the first episode, I actually thought that was a really 168 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:47,824 Speaker 1: interesting way to start this new season because it kind 169 00:07:47,824 --> 00:07:49,824 Speaker 1: of really gave people like you who went across what 170 00:07:49,824 --> 00:07:52,264 Speaker 1: had happened in the last season a bit of a refresher. 171 00:07:52,624 --> 00:07:55,184 Speaker 1: And it starts off with Cami's younger brother, you know, 172 00:07:55,184 --> 00:07:56,904 Speaker 1: the one Emily hooked up with when she thought he 173 00:07:57,024 --> 00:07:59,064 Speaker 1: was which I love that storyline. She thought he was 174 00:07:59,064 --> 00:08:04,024 Speaker 1: the college brother he was the high school Brother's classic. Yeah, 175 00:08:04,064 --> 00:08:06,744 Speaker 1: he's made this TikTok where he's recapping for us the audience, 176 00:08:06,824 --> 00:08:08,384 Speaker 1: really what just happened, But we get to steal the 177 00:08:08,424 --> 00:08:11,704 Speaker 1: character reactions to it of Cami and Gabrielle about to 178 00:08:11,744 --> 00:08:14,184 Speaker 1: get married because he thinks she's pregnant, and to be fair, 179 00:08:14,264 --> 00:08:16,824 Speaker 1: she thinks she's pregnant too. Yeah, and then we see 180 00:08:16,824 --> 00:08:18,424 Speaker 1: the fallout of that, so we know that Alfie and 181 00:08:18,424 --> 00:08:22,424 Speaker 1: Emily have broken up, that Camille has disappeared with Sophia, 182 00:08:22,624 --> 00:08:25,704 Speaker 1: and Gabrielle's just cooking and stressing what he does. 183 00:08:26,224 --> 00:08:29,904 Speaker 2: Gabrielle just hasn't changed throughout this entire series, except for 184 00:08:29,904 --> 00:08:30,944 Speaker 2: his hair, which is bad. 185 00:08:31,304 --> 00:08:33,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not great, is it. Yeah, I've never been 186 00:08:33,824 --> 00:08:35,704 Speaker 1: a Gabrielle fan. I've just got to come out and 187 00:08:35,744 --> 00:08:37,464 Speaker 1: say that I didn't mind him quite. 188 00:08:37,504 --> 00:08:39,984 Speaker 2: It's a very tortured chef, but in a comical way 189 00:08:40,064 --> 00:08:41,944 Speaker 2: where you're like, there's no reason. 190 00:08:41,624 --> 00:08:44,064 Speaker 1: For you to be this tortured. Yeah, it's more so 191 00:08:44,104 --> 00:08:45,744 Speaker 1: that I didn't mind him in the first season when 192 00:08:45,744 --> 00:08:47,344 Speaker 1: he was kind of just this like kind of oh, 193 00:08:47,504 --> 00:08:50,304 Speaker 1: cute little background player. But I've got to say and 194 00:08:50,384 --> 00:08:52,184 Speaker 1: this was a part of this season. I was always 195 00:08:52,304 --> 00:08:54,984 Speaker 1: such an alfie fangirl, and I know a lot of 196 00:08:54,984 --> 00:08:57,784 Speaker 1: people are quite angry about that that have sent messages 197 00:08:57,784 --> 00:08:59,424 Speaker 1: being like he was so mean to Emily. I'm like, yes, 198 00:08:59,424 --> 00:09:01,744 Speaker 1: but we love an enemy's to lovers. And also I 199 00:09:01,744 --> 00:09:03,184 Speaker 1: think Tony think terrible to her. It was just like 200 00:09:03,184 --> 00:09:05,344 Speaker 1: a bit of a rude job anything. She was mean 201 00:09:05,464 --> 00:09:07,864 Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, but that's what we want. We don't 202 00:09:07,904 --> 00:09:10,824 Speaker 1: want like the predictable relationship and so so I was 203 00:09:10,944 --> 00:09:13,504 Speaker 1: quite upset when their relationship came to an abrupt end, 204 00:09:13,584 --> 00:09:13,944 Speaker 1: and they. 205 00:09:13,904 --> 00:09:16,304 Speaker 2: Kind of made him a background character towards the end 206 00:09:16,344 --> 00:09:18,744 Speaker 2: of the season where he was in the city, didn't 207 00:09:18,784 --> 00:09:19,904 Speaker 2: have like a storyline. 208 00:09:19,944 --> 00:09:21,504 Speaker 1: He was just kind of there, except for that moment 209 00:09:21,544 --> 00:09:24,184 Speaker 1: where he pops up at the end of the Christmas episode. 210 00:09:23,944 --> 00:09:26,064 Speaker 2: And he's like, Gabrielle, don't lose the best girl in 211 00:09:26,104 --> 00:09:26,384 Speaker 2: the world. 212 00:09:26,584 --> 00:09:29,584 Speaker 1: No, that's the last episode you're jumping really, remember in 213 00:09:29,624 --> 00:09:34,064 Speaker 1: the Christmas episode when yeah, so they've been skiing and 214 00:09:34,184 --> 00:09:37,224 Speaker 1: Camio she's not pregnant at this stage, which, just to 215 00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:39,344 Speaker 1: quickly touch on one of the gripes I have with 216 00:09:39,384 --> 00:09:41,704 Speaker 1: Emily in Paris, I am not one of those people 217 00:09:41,744 --> 00:09:44,624 Speaker 1: who thinks that, you know, oh, the storylines are ridiculous 218 00:09:44,664 --> 00:09:47,824 Speaker 1: and it's so improbable what happens. I kind of think 219 00:09:47,864 --> 00:09:51,104 Speaker 1: like there's a really good creative license taken. And I 220 00:09:51,104 --> 00:09:52,944 Speaker 1: think the most realistic thing about the show is that 221 00:09:53,024 --> 00:09:56,224 Speaker 1: Mindy and Emily share a tiny studio apartment because it's 222 00:09:56,224 --> 00:09:58,944 Speaker 1: exactly how you would live in Paris. And yes, she 223 00:09:59,024 --> 00:10:01,104 Speaker 1: has crazy clothes that she would never be able to 224 00:10:01,104 --> 00:10:03,824 Speaker 1: afford on her salary. But this show was created by 225 00:10:03,904 --> 00:10:06,664 Speaker 1: Darren Starr, the man who created Sex in the City, 226 00:10:07,064 --> 00:10:09,064 Speaker 1: and that whole point of these shows is to watch 227 00:10:09,104 --> 00:10:12,544 Speaker 1: women in fabulous clothes and fabulous cities live a life 228 00:10:12,544 --> 00:10:14,064 Speaker 1: that the rest of us story. That's the whole point 229 00:10:14,064 --> 00:10:14,264 Speaker 1: of it. 230 00:10:14,304 --> 00:10:16,504 Speaker 2: So don't mess with you to pretend that you don't 231 00:10:16,544 --> 00:10:18,064 Speaker 2: know what their income is. 232 00:10:18,264 --> 00:10:21,984 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, but the timeline, especially for this season is 233 00:10:22,064 --> 00:10:23,624 Speaker 1: quite messed up because if you kind of look at 234 00:10:23,664 --> 00:10:26,064 Speaker 1: the facts, by the time we get to the Christmas 235 00:10:26,064 --> 00:10:28,264 Speaker 1: episode and Cami is like trying to think, are out 236 00:10:28,304 --> 00:10:30,544 Speaker 1: how to tell Gramriela she's not pregnant. If you look 237 00:10:30,544 --> 00:10:32,664 Speaker 1: at the timeline of like how the seasons have changed 238 00:10:32,704 --> 00:10:34,984 Speaker 1: the dates that we know have happened, like where they're 239 00:10:34,984 --> 00:10:38,904 Speaker 1: celebrating Christmas Mindy rehearsing for Eurovision of what time that happens? 240 00:10:38,904 --> 00:10:41,824 Speaker 1: In the timeline, Canny is about seven months pregnant here, 241 00:10:42,624 --> 00:10:44,984 Speaker 1: and yet no one thinks it's weird that she's not 242 00:10:45,064 --> 00:10:46,784 Speaker 1: showing yet. 243 00:10:46,584 --> 00:10:50,504 Speaker 2: Point she hasn't visited a doctor. Yes, she's pregnant for 244 00:10:50,544 --> 00:10:52,464 Speaker 2: seven months before going to Yeah. 245 00:10:52,344 --> 00:10:54,944 Speaker 1: And then they go straight from like winter in Europe 246 00:10:54,984 --> 00:10:57,744 Speaker 1: to Emily in Rome in like the peak of summer. 247 00:10:58,304 --> 00:11:00,664 Speaker 1: So I know, even me, who gives a lot of 248 00:11:00,704 --> 00:11:02,704 Speaker 1: creative license to this show, was like, can we just 249 00:11:03,024 --> 00:11:06,984 Speaker 1: slightly sort out the timeline to be somewhat in a way. 250 00:11:07,624 --> 00:11:09,864 Speaker 1: It made me think of like reading Babiesitters Club when 251 00:11:09,864 --> 00:11:12,064 Speaker 1: I was a kid, and how I really loved those books, 252 00:11:12,464 --> 00:11:14,824 Speaker 1: but they were did you read them? Yeah they did. 253 00:11:14,944 --> 00:11:18,184 Speaker 1: How they're in eighth grade, but they celebrate twenty Christmases, 254 00:11:18,304 --> 00:11:21,824 Speaker 1: twenty Summers, twenty Thanksgimmings, and they're always in eighth grade 255 00:11:21,824 --> 00:11:24,664 Speaker 1: and they never aged. That's and they never age. That's 256 00:11:24,744 --> 00:11:27,104 Speaker 1: what Emily and Paris is doing. But it's slightly less 257 00:11:27,144 --> 00:11:28,544 Speaker 1: believable in a Netflix show. 258 00:11:28,784 --> 00:11:33,624 Speaker 2: So the last episode of part one, where she chooses Gabrielle. 259 00:11:33,664 --> 00:11:34,784 Speaker 2: You know what I thought it was going to because 260 00:11:34,784 --> 00:11:35,584 Speaker 2: you see her do this. 261 00:11:35,624 --> 00:11:37,184 Speaker 1: Long walk towards Gabrielle. 262 00:11:37,344 --> 00:11:38,464 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought it was going to be one 263 00:11:38,464 --> 00:11:41,304 Speaker 2: of those ones where she like completely like sidelines him 264 00:11:41,344 --> 00:11:42,584 Speaker 2: and then walks to Alfie. 265 00:11:42,624 --> 00:11:44,184 Speaker 1: That would have been so good. 266 00:11:43,904 --> 00:11:45,784 Speaker 2: I literally thought it was going to happen. And when 267 00:11:45,824 --> 00:11:48,304 Speaker 2: she chose him, I was like, there is no way 268 00:11:48,304 --> 00:11:51,584 Speaker 2: in hell you're choosing this man over Alfie. 269 00:11:51,904 --> 00:11:53,704 Speaker 1: But I guess that the show had really set up 270 00:11:53,704 --> 00:11:56,024 Speaker 1: a kind of lone. They'd invested in him from the beginning. Yeah, 271 00:11:56,024 --> 00:11:57,744 Speaker 1: a long bird. But then the thing is, they invested 272 00:11:57,744 --> 00:12:00,704 Speaker 1: in this relationship for three seasons and they finally delivered 273 00:12:00,704 --> 00:12:02,824 Speaker 1: it to fans. They had that epic kiss and they 274 00:12:02,824 --> 00:12:06,144 Speaker 1: were together, and then they basically break them up straight away. 275 00:12:06,184 --> 00:12:08,304 Speaker 1: And I understand the logic of that. It's classic, like 276 00:12:08,384 --> 00:12:11,344 Speaker 1: kind of old school teen drama is where those shows 277 00:12:11,464 --> 00:12:13,824 Speaker 1: used to run for you know, five or six seasons 278 00:12:13,824 --> 00:12:16,064 Speaker 1: with twenty two episodes, so you have to really milk them. 279 00:12:16,344 --> 00:12:18,144 Speaker 1: But for a show like this that drops like, you know, 280 00:12:18,264 --> 00:12:21,584 Speaker 1: ten episodes every year or so, and there's been so 281 00:12:21,664 --> 00:12:23,504 Speaker 1: much build up, I'm like, you really should have invested 282 00:12:23,504 --> 00:12:25,624 Speaker 1: in Emily and Gabrielle like as a couple now and 283 00:12:25,664 --> 00:12:26,944 Speaker 1: then we could have a break up and they could 284 00:12:26,944 --> 00:12:28,784 Speaker 1: go and date other people. But it felt very kind 285 00:12:28,784 --> 00:12:31,264 Speaker 1: of like haphazard. But I always just think I will 286 00:12:31,304 --> 00:12:34,544 Speaker 1: always go for the unexpected relationship, and that idea what 287 00:12:34,584 --> 00:12:36,744 Speaker 1: you're saying of when you thought Emily was going to 288 00:12:36,784 --> 00:12:39,704 Speaker 1: go to Alfie instead of Gabrielle makes me think of 289 00:12:39,744 --> 00:12:41,824 Speaker 1: one of the greatest plot twists. And like this sort 290 00:12:41,824 --> 00:12:45,464 Speaker 1: of show, like these romantic drummery shows in One Tree 291 00:12:45,544 --> 00:12:47,704 Speaker 1: Hell where like there's so much build up of Lucas 292 00:12:47,744 --> 00:12:50,024 Speaker 1: Scott going to Peyton Sawyer and then when he knocks 293 00:12:50,024 --> 00:12:51,864 Speaker 1: on the door, it's Brook Davis and I was like, 294 00:12:51,984 --> 00:12:53,304 Speaker 1: this is a missed opportunity. 295 00:12:53,624 --> 00:12:55,944 Speaker 2: Yeah, they really fumble the bag with that one. 296 00:12:56,064 --> 00:12:58,104 Speaker 1: In my opinion, what do you think of Camie as 297 00:12:58,104 --> 00:13:00,784 Speaker 1: a character this season, because I feel like she got 298 00:13:00,784 --> 00:13:01,664 Speaker 1: a pretty. 299 00:13:01,624 --> 00:13:05,464 Speaker 2: She's like me when I'm rough tonstantly running away, like 300 00:13:05,584 --> 00:13:06,584 Speaker 2: where are you going? 301 00:13:07,144 --> 00:13:09,304 Speaker 1: They talk about that in the series as well. It's 302 00:13:09,304 --> 00:13:11,184 Speaker 1: true Emily does run away when she's drunk. So many 303 00:13:11,184 --> 00:13:13,184 Speaker 1: times you just walk into the darkness and I'm like, 304 00:13:13,304 --> 00:13:17,744 Speaker 1: please take an uber do not walk home made way? Yeah, 305 00:13:17,744 --> 00:13:19,504 Speaker 1: it's me, I'm Cami. I Yeah. 306 00:13:19,584 --> 00:13:22,384 Speaker 2: I hated that, Like it felt like they had no 307 00:13:22,664 --> 00:13:25,064 Speaker 2: plans to what to do with her character, so their 308 00:13:25,064 --> 00:13:27,464 Speaker 2: plan was to just like leave her out of the 309 00:13:27,504 --> 00:13:29,984 Speaker 2: main storyline whenever it was fitting and then bring her 310 00:13:30,024 --> 00:13:32,544 Speaker 2: back in whenever they needed some drama, which is quite 311 00:13:32,584 --> 00:13:35,224 Speaker 2: upsetting because I loved her character in the first few 312 00:13:35,264 --> 00:13:38,904 Speaker 2: seasons of being in a relationship with Gabrielle, but also 313 00:13:39,104 --> 00:13:41,824 Speaker 2: being in one of Emily's first best friends, Yeah, and 314 00:13:42,184 --> 00:13:45,064 Speaker 2: being completely blindsided that her boyfriend and her best friend 315 00:13:45,184 --> 00:13:48,624 Speaker 2: were in love with each other, and then getting pregnant 316 00:13:48,704 --> 00:13:51,704 Speaker 2: without even planning it, and then trying to like make 317 00:13:51,824 --> 00:13:54,384 Speaker 2: her boyfriend and her best friend like get back together, 318 00:13:54,584 --> 00:13:57,544 Speaker 2: but also ruining another relationship in the process, and then 319 00:13:57,584 --> 00:14:00,464 Speaker 2: just running away. And then now she's back, and I 320 00:14:00,464 --> 00:14:02,904 Speaker 2: feel like they're using her as a problematic trope of 321 00:14:03,104 --> 00:14:05,424 Speaker 2: just like making sure that there's a constant drama line 322 00:14:05,464 --> 00:14:07,984 Speaker 2: in the series, and it's kind of getting overplayed in 323 00:14:07,984 --> 00:14:08,544 Speaker 2: my opinion. 324 00:14:08,704 --> 00:14:11,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost that they've changed her character arc and 325 00:14:11,304 --> 00:14:13,384 Speaker 1: like the way she's written, because she's a bit more 326 00:14:13,464 --> 00:14:15,784 Speaker 1: understanding and a bit more I guess like Nuances a 327 00:14:15,864 --> 00:14:18,424 Speaker 1: character as much as anyone. Emily in Paris is in 328 00:14:18,464 --> 00:14:20,664 Speaker 1: the first two seasons, and then this one she was 329 00:14:20,704 --> 00:14:24,504 Speaker 1: just written as an angry girlfriend trope, and I was 330 00:14:24,584 --> 00:14:27,864 Speaker 1: more impressed that they were steering away from that. It's like, 331 00:14:27,904 --> 00:14:31,544 Speaker 1: I think, how Emily's relationship with Mindy and Sylvie are 332 00:14:31,584 --> 00:14:34,984 Speaker 1: way more interesting than her relationships with like a Gabrielle 333 00:14:35,104 --> 00:14:38,344 Speaker 1: or an Alfie. And that's actually the most unrealistic thing 334 00:14:38,384 --> 00:14:40,904 Speaker 1: of the show. While we're on that friendships, because everyone's like, oh, 335 00:14:40,984 --> 00:14:43,144 Speaker 1: it's so unrealistic, like the money she has and how 336 00:14:43,184 --> 00:14:45,184 Speaker 1: she lives, and was like, No, the unrealistic thing in 337 00:14:45,224 --> 00:14:47,744 Speaker 1: this show, above all else is the fact that that 338 00:14:47,784 --> 00:14:51,024 Speaker 1: girl moves to a new city and instantly makes friends 339 00:14:51,384 --> 00:14:53,344 Speaker 1: just walking down the street, Like she makes friends with 340 00:14:53,384 --> 00:14:55,344 Speaker 1: Camie in front of the Rose shop and they get 341 00:14:55,344 --> 00:14:58,104 Speaker 1: coffee and they become friends. She makes friends with Mindy 342 00:14:58,264 --> 00:15:00,344 Speaker 1: on a park bench, and as someone who was also 343 00:15:00,384 --> 00:15:02,944 Speaker 1: I've moved to Paris, but I've moved to little towns 344 00:15:02,944 --> 00:15:05,544 Speaker 1: like Dolby. When you move to a new city, you 345 00:15:05,544 --> 00:15:08,304 Speaker 1: start fantasizing about that, about just going and talking to 346 00:15:08,424 --> 00:15:10,104 Speaker 1: like that girl on the bench because you're so desperate 347 00:15:10,104 --> 00:15:12,664 Speaker 1: for friends, and then that happens in Emily in Paris 348 00:15:12,704 --> 00:15:15,624 Speaker 1: and it's lovely, but it's also just not it's not 349 00:15:15,664 --> 00:15:15,984 Speaker 1: the way. 350 00:15:15,904 --> 00:15:18,544 Speaker 2: It's not realistic. What I also didn't like about what 351 00:15:18,584 --> 00:15:22,024 Speaker 2: they did with Cami's character, which is like so stereotypical 352 00:15:22,064 --> 00:15:24,584 Speaker 2: of these kind of like feel good TV shows, was 353 00:15:25,064 --> 00:15:28,344 Speaker 2: making an unexpected pregnancy a massive problem. Yeah, like making 354 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:31,424 Speaker 2: it a problem in everyone's life, and then the way 355 00:15:31,464 --> 00:15:33,864 Speaker 2: to get rid of that problem is to get rid 356 00:15:33,864 --> 00:15:36,424 Speaker 2: of the pregnancy. Yeah, And I just hate that they 357 00:15:36,464 --> 00:15:39,184 Speaker 2: do that, Like I just hate that they always like 358 00:15:39,744 --> 00:15:42,784 Speaker 2: use the single pregnant woman that's in the way of 359 00:15:42,824 --> 00:15:46,384 Speaker 2: everyone else as like everyone else's kind of like enemy. 360 00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:49,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, bringing a baby into a show is just 361 00:15:49,904 --> 00:15:52,024 Speaker 1: in so many changes all the storyline. It just it 362 00:15:52,144 --> 00:15:53,984 Speaker 1: just also becomes a way of like where is the 363 00:15:53,984 --> 00:15:55,744 Speaker 1: baby going to be? How's the character gonna get home? 364 00:15:55,784 --> 00:15:57,944 Speaker 1: How do we have Like it's also really hard to 365 00:15:57,944 --> 00:15:59,864 Speaker 1: have a baby on set because of noise, and it 366 00:15:59,904 --> 00:16:01,384 Speaker 1: might not do this and you have to get twins 367 00:16:01,384 --> 00:16:02,784 Speaker 1: so that if one baby's angry, you can take it 368 00:16:02,784 --> 00:16:04,504 Speaker 1: away and put the other baby. And it's a whole thing. 369 00:16:04,904 --> 00:16:07,184 Speaker 1: So this is something that show started doing, like especially 370 00:16:07,224 --> 00:16:09,544 Speaker 1: in like the late nineties there, to have characters get pregnant. 371 00:16:09,784 --> 00:16:11,424 Speaker 1: But then they didn't want to have the baby, but 372 00:16:11,464 --> 00:16:13,344 Speaker 1: they also didn't want to have the character have an 373 00:16:13,344 --> 00:16:15,664 Speaker 1: abortion because that was still seen as taboos. They would 374 00:16:15,664 --> 00:16:18,144 Speaker 1: always have like a miscarriage or something, and Emily in 375 00:16:18,184 --> 00:16:20,584 Speaker 1: Paris went completely the other way of like they didn't 376 00:16:20,584 --> 00:16:23,144 Speaker 1: want the baby in the storyline, but they obviously didn't 377 00:16:23,144 --> 00:16:25,384 Speaker 1: want to kind of write a miscarriage or anything like that, 378 00:16:25,424 --> 00:16:27,784 Speaker 1: so just had the pregnancy not exist, which is something 379 00:16:27,824 --> 00:16:30,344 Speaker 1: that does happen, but it does seem like they had 380 00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:32,424 Speaker 1: kind of written themselves into a place and been like, 381 00:16:32,504 --> 00:16:34,624 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to do. But also I might 382 00:16:34,664 --> 00:16:36,824 Speaker 1: have to eat my words because Camie is adopting now, 383 00:16:37,304 --> 00:16:39,384 Speaker 1: so she's going to be holding a little chic French baby. 384 00:16:39,424 --> 00:16:41,584 Speaker 1: Maybe in season five, Oh, they gonna make her run 385 00:16:41,624 --> 00:16:46,064 Speaker 1: away again. She should have run away with a baby. Well, 386 00:16:46,064 --> 00:16:49,104 Speaker 1: speaking of Emily's friends, we've talked about Mindy's storyline. I 387 00:16:49,104 --> 00:16:50,944 Speaker 1: think Ashley Park, I've just got to say, is one 388 00:16:50,944 --> 00:16:54,504 Speaker 1: of the standout performers of this series. That's like, I 389 00:16:54,544 --> 00:16:57,664 Speaker 1: really hate when people who were talking about Emily in Paris, 390 00:16:57,704 --> 00:17:00,024 Speaker 1: are like, oh, I just like quite like the clothes, 391 00:17:00,104 --> 00:17:02,264 Speaker 1: even though the clothing is a bit of a choice 392 00:17:02,264 --> 00:17:04,384 Speaker 1: this season. So as we know, Patricia Field, who is 393 00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:07,264 Speaker 1: one of the most infamous TV stylists of all time, 394 00:17:07,744 --> 00:17:09,984 Speaker 1: who styled Sex and City and did those iconic looks, 395 00:17:10,024 --> 00:17:13,184 Speaker 1: did the first two seasons, I believe Emily in Paris 396 00:17:13,544 --> 00:17:15,344 Speaker 1: and someone else has come in to do the other 397 00:17:15,424 --> 00:17:18,424 Speaker 1: two seasons that have come after that. And obviously Emily's 398 00:17:18,464 --> 00:17:21,904 Speaker 1: style in particular has evolved, because now they're trying to 399 00:17:21,944 --> 00:17:23,424 Speaker 1: show even though we have no has she been in 400 00:17:23,464 --> 00:17:25,224 Speaker 1: Paris for a year or six years? Hard to say, 401 00:17:25,504 --> 00:17:27,624 Speaker 1: but her style tells us that she's evolved, and she's 402 00:17:27,784 --> 00:17:29,784 Speaker 1: procured a whole new wardrobe, a whole new look. She's 403 00:17:29,784 --> 00:17:32,864 Speaker 1: taken out the really intense hair extensions. She's doing more 404 00:17:32,864 --> 00:17:35,224 Speaker 1: of a smoky eye and a dark lip. And but 405 00:17:35,264 --> 00:17:37,744 Speaker 1: this season I thought the amount of suiting she wore 406 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:40,864 Speaker 1: was almost getting a bit too costume. It was very costume. 407 00:17:41,024 --> 00:17:43,864 Speaker 2: But what about Mindy, Like, why is she doing all of. 408 00:17:43,824 --> 00:17:48,464 Speaker 1: That, all of her looks? It's insane because her creepy boyfriend, 409 00:17:48,544 --> 00:17:50,904 Speaker 1: who I hated from the moment that Nico walked in 410 00:17:50,944 --> 00:17:53,384 Speaker 1: the room. I hate. I know he's lovely in real life. 411 00:17:53,384 --> 00:17:54,224 Speaker 2: They're together in real life. 412 00:17:54,224 --> 00:17:56,184 Speaker 1: They're together in real life. They fell in love for 413 00:17:56,224 --> 00:17:58,424 Speaker 1: the moment they saw each other on set. During the break, 414 00:17:58,504 --> 00:18:02,024 Speaker 1: she got extremely ill and was hospitalized. She had sepsis. Yeah, 415 00:18:02,064 --> 00:18:03,944 Speaker 1: and he and she said that that's when she kind 416 00:18:03,944 --> 00:18:06,024 Speaker 1: of like really talked for the relationship. That he stood 417 00:18:06,064 --> 00:18:07,744 Speaker 1: by her side in hospital because it happened when they 418 00:18:07,744 --> 00:18:10,584 Speaker 1: were traveling together. So I'm sure he's lovely in real life. Anyway, 419 00:18:10,624 --> 00:18:13,664 Speaker 1: his character the worst of the worst, shaming her for 420 00:18:13,704 --> 00:18:16,304 Speaker 1: her outfits, her clothing, all of these sort of things, 421 00:18:16,344 --> 00:18:19,424 Speaker 1: releasing the songs. They get kicked out of Eurovision. Everyone's 422 00:18:19,424 --> 00:18:21,464 Speaker 1: talking about what a terrible friend Emily is because she 423 00:18:21,464 --> 00:18:25,704 Speaker 1: doesn't speak French, like that man swattered her dreams. 424 00:18:26,424 --> 00:18:28,704 Speaker 2: Ruined her career, ruined her career. 425 00:18:28,744 --> 00:18:29,864 Speaker 1: Are we not talking about that? 426 00:18:30,224 --> 00:18:31,824 Speaker 2: No, we should be talking about that, But I need 427 00:18:31,904 --> 00:18:32,784 Speaker 2: to talk about her outfits. 428 00:18:32,824 --> 00:18:35,504 Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, sorry, back to her outfits. 429 00:18:35,704 --> 00:18:41,344 Speaker 2: Just so many scenes of mindy, just like walking from 430 00:18:41,424 --> 00:18:45,584 Speaker 2: a coffee shop to her home in like these big 431 00:18:45,904 --> 00:18:50,624 Speaker 2: gowns with no explanation, and I'm like oh, she probably has. 432 00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:52,464 Speaker 1: An event later that night, but the event later in 433 00:18:52,504 --> 00:18:55,664 Speaker 1: the night it's a different gown coffee. That girl has 434 00:18:55,704 --> 00:18:58,504 Speaker 1: nowhere to be but walk around Paris stressed. 435 00:18:58,744 --> 00:19:01,304 Speaker 2: I was stressed for her and her well being and 436 00:19:01,344 --> 00:19:03,824 Speaker 2: her bank account, Like I couldn't stop thinking about it. 437 00:19:04,024 --> 00:19:07,544 Speaker 1: I know, but I love that. That's the part of fantasy. 438 00:19:06,944 --> 00:19:10,384 Speaker 1: Of course I wouldn't. Emily is wearing why would you 439 00:19:10,504 --> 00:19:14,664 Speaker 1: Cresna these two girls? Where ament when she went to 440 00:19:14,824 --> 00:19:18,024 Speaker 1: the Hamburglar like that? No one's questioning these They have 441 00:19:18,184 --> 00:19:20,504 Speaker 1: no storage in that tiny apartment, in the bed that 442 00:19:20,544 --> 00:19:23,384 Speaker 1: they share. Where is all this clothing going anyway? That's 443 00:19:23,544 --> 00:19:25,784 Speaker 1: we can't ask these questions that ruins the fair tosey. 444 00:19:25,864 --> 00:19:28,504 Speaker 1: I love that MINDI dresses like that because it goes 445 00:19:28,504 --> 00:19:30,704 Speaker 1: with her personality, Like, yes, it doesn't go with her 446 00:19:30,704 --> 00:19:34,064 Speaker 1: bank account or her travel situation, but it is her 447 00:19:34,064 --> 00:19:36,904 Speaker 1: personality of her character to be in these very opulent, 448 00:19:37,144 --> 00:19:40,904 Speaker 1: over the top outfit shoes, bags, the hats. Can We 449 00:19:40,944 --> 00:19:43,504 Speaker 1: also talk about that moment of Alfie saying like, I'm 450 00:19:43,544 --> 00:19:45,464 Speaker 1: just waiting for my girlfriend because I'm going in to 451 00:19:45,504 --> 00:19:46,184 Speaker 1: meet her parents. 452 00:19:46,344 --> 00:19:50,024 Speaker 2: Yes, you know what, Emily deserved that, but also It. 453 00:19:50,304 --> 00:19:52,544 Speaker 1: Was kind of a weirdning because I'm like, timeline wise, 454 00:19:52,624 --> 00:19:54,824 Speaker 1: you guys have just broken up. I know time has 455 00:19:54,864 --> 00:19:56,784 Speaker 1: no meaning in the world of Emily in Paris, but 456 00:19:56,824 --> 00:19:59,744 Speaker 1: like she and gabrielleould together a very short amount of time, 457 00:19:59,784 --> 00:20:02,504 Speaker 1: which means that after Alfie had that big breakdown, he 458 00:20:02,584 --> 00:20:05,504 Speaker 1: must have walked straight out of that party, met this girl, 459 00:20:06,184 --> 00:20:08,104 Speaker 1: fallen in love with her. A week later, he's met 460 00:20:08,144 --> 00:20:10,024 Speaker 1: her parents and now he's like, oh, yeah, we do 461 00:20:10,104 --> 00:20:12,144 Speaker 1: Chris hearing then like we went to my family is 462 00:20:12,184 --> 00:20:14,344 Speaker 1: that we've been together for years. And then in the 463 00:20:14,464 --> 00:20:17,104 Speaker 1: last episode he says to Gabrielle, don't lose the greatest 464 00:20:17,144 --> 00:20:18,664 Speaker 1: girl in the world. I'm like, what about the other girl? 465 00:20:19,504 --> 00:20:22,344 Speaker 2: His girlfriends in there getting them coffee? Just fuck myself, 466 00:20:23,944 --> 00:20:27,744 Speaker 2: I guess, But I thought that was one of the 467 00:20:27,784 --> 00:20:31,504 Speaker 2: best scenes, was kind of her realizing what she did, 468 00:20:31,704 --> 00:20:33,784 Speaker 2: and like that crying scene, because you don't really see 469 00:20:33,784 --> 00:20:35,824 Speaker 2: that deep of an emotion in this series. 470 00:20:36,464 --> 00:20:38,864 Speaker 1: She often doesn't have a lot of emotions. Well, she's 471 00:20:38,864 --> 00:20:41,424 Speaker 1: always very heightened. But I also quite like that because, 472 00:20:41,464 --> 00:20:43,064 Speaker 1: as I said before, one of the reasons that I 473 00:20:43,064 --> 00:20:45,504 Speaker 1: love watch Hamilely in Pois is It's very soothing, and 474 00:20:45,544 --> 00:20:48,024 Speaker 1: I think it is nice to watch a show that's 475 00:20:48,064 --> 00:20:50,824 Speaker 1: not hooked on a woman's trauma. And she is a 476 00:20:50,824 --> 00:20:53,824 Speaker 1: woman who exists without trauma, with the fact. 477 00:20:53,664 --> 00:20:57,624 Speaker 2: That she never have traumas concerning with any kind of past, 478 00:20:57,824 --> 00:20:59,944 Speaker 2: you know, heartbreak or anything like that. 479 00:21:00,224 --> 00:21:01,704 Speaker 1: But we're seeing that now and I felt like that 480 00:21:01,744 --> 00:21:03,464 Speaker 1: was a true moment for her, like you feel her 481 00:21:03,504 --> 00:21:06,224 Speaker 1: loneliness of like she tried to get home to Chicago 482 00:21:06,304 --> 00:21:08,744 Speaker 1: with her ugly jumpers. That didn't work out for her, 483 00:21:08,824 --> 00:21:10,544 Speaker 1: so she went to spend time with the family that 484 00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,104 Speaker 1: hates her for the dad. The mum has been trying 485 00:21:13,104 --> 00:21:15,704 Speaker 1: to take Emily Cooper down for years now, and she 486 00:21:15,784 --> 00:21:18,704 Speaker 1: keeps almost succeeding, and in this case succeeding. She and 487 00:21:18,704 --> 00:21:21,424 Speaker 1: Gabrielle have a terrible breakup she almost die scheme, which 488 00:21:21,464 --> 00:21:23,104 Speaker 1: we know is a very dangerous sport if you don't 489 00:21:23,104 --> 00:21:25,504 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. Then she goes to Paris, only 490 00:21:25,544 --> 00:21:27,584 Speaker 1: to find out the guy who she thought was her backup, 491 00:21:27,664 --> 00:21:29,704 Speaker 1: which is understandable we've all had before. You're like, well, 492 00:21:29,704 --> 00:21:31,184 Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out, I can get back with it. 493 00:21:31,264 --> 00:21:34,304 Speaker 2: He was also just like loitering outside the restaurant really 494 00:21:34,304 --> 00:21:36,464 Speaker 2: far away, saying I'm about to meet my girlfriend and 495 00:21:36,544 --> 00:21:36,904 Speaker 2: her parents. 496 00:21:36,904 --> 00:21:38,184 Speaker 1: And then she knows that when she goes home to 497 00:21:38,184 --> 00:21:41,264 Speaker 1: her little, weird, tiny studio apartment, which has a beautiful 498 00:21:41,344 --> 00:21:42,744 Speaker 1: view and all that it's going to be packed with 499 00:21:42,784 --> 00:21:47,544 Speaker 1: drunk people because Mindy's having her Molly party Merry Christmas 500 00:21:47,544 --> 00:21:49,984 Speaker 1: to her. The best scene in my opinion, Oh yeah, 501 00:21:49,984 --> 00:21:50,384 Speaker 1: what's that. 502 00:21:50,624 --> 00:21:54,184 Speaker 2: It's the scene where she and Gabrielle. They're not together, 503 00:21:54,264 --> 00:21:56,744 Speaker 2: but they're kind of together. They're in that phase where 504 00:21:56,944 --> 00:22:00,344 Speaker 2: nothing's really adding up for them, yeah, and they're having 505 00:22:00,344 --> 00:22:02,304 Speaker 2: an argument and she's just like, I need you to 506 00:22:02,344 --> 00:22:04,344 Speaker 2: tell me how you feel, and he's like, you want 507 00:22:04,344 --> 00:22:06,104 Speaker 2: to know how I feel? And he just rants at 508 00:22:06,144 --> 00:22:09,824 Speaker 2: her in French. Yes, and he just lets add all 509 00:22:09,824 --> 00:22:12,144 Speaker 2: of this emotion and then obviously they're subtitles on, but 510 00:22:12,264 --> 00:22:15,744 Speaker 2: you can just hear the emotion and anger. Like Lucas Bravo, 511 00:22:15,784 --> 00:22:17,264 Speaker 2: who plays Gabrielle, is amazing. 512 00:22:17,264 --> 00:22:19,864 Speaker 1: He's an You were the first person in the world 513 00:22:19,944 --> 00:22:21,984 Speaker 1: to say that, but okay, really he's an amazing. 514 00:22:21,744 --> 00:22:23,424 Speaker 2: That Dune scene, I was just like, well, you got me, 515 00:22:23,464 --> 00:22:26,264 Speaker 2: even with your bad haird whatever. But like and then 516 00:22:26,264 --> 00:22:28,664 Speaker 2: she just goes, I don't understand, And I think that 517 00:22:29,184 --> 00:22:32,024 Speaker 2: just kind of reminds the viewer that, yes, actually we're 518 00:22:32,064 --> 00:22:34,824 Speaker 2: watching this all in English with people who should all 519 00:22:34,864 --> 00:22:35,904 Speaker 2: just be speaking. 520 00:22:35,504 --> 00:22:37,304 Speaker 1: French, but they do. This is okay. I think there's 521 00:22:37,304 --> 00:22:38,944 Speaker 1: two points to your question. They're like, yes, that's an 522 00:22:38,944 --> 00:22:40,984 Speaker 1: amazing scene. And I think the words he says when 523 00:22:40,984 --> 00:22:43,104 Speaker 1: he's talking about them not being able to communicate, he's like, 524 00:22:43,264 --> 00:22:45,544 Speaker 1: it's because we're always speaking in your language and not 525 00:22:45,624 --> 00:22:49,184 Speaker 1: my language. And obviously he's fluent in both French and English, 526 00:22:49,264 --> 00:22:52,104 Speaker 1: but it's true that like in those moments of you know, 527 00:22:52,224 --> 00:22:55,264 Speaker 1: extreme emotion, you want to maybe just speak in the 528 00:22:55,344 --> 00:22:58,504 Speaker 1: language that you've been raised in language, you know, instead 529 00:22:58,504 --> 00:23:00,224 Speaker 1: of having to sort of in your head like filter 530 00:23:00,384 --> 00:23:03,344 Speaker 1: it and translate and then translate what she's saying and 531 00:23:03,504 --> 00:23:06,664 Speaker 1: always having to speak in that way. So I thought 532 00:23:06,704 --> 00:23:09,024 Speaker 1: that was super interesting. But also this is the other 533 00:23:09,064 --> 00:23:11,184 Speaker 1: bugbear for me. When people say like, oh, I only 534 00:23:11,184 --> 00:23:12,504 Speaker 1: have a look at my phone when I watch Emily 535 00:23:12,504 --> 00:23:14,704 Speaker 1: in Paris it's on the background. I'm like, well, no, wonder, 536 00:23:14,744 --> 00:23:16,984 Speaker 1: you're missing half the storyline. Because one of the good 537 00:23:16,984 --> 00:23:19,144 Speaker 1: things that Emily in Paris is like the characters all 538 00:23:19,224 --> 00:23:22,304 Speaker 1: speak French when Emily's not around, like unless like Mindy 539 00:23:22,504 --> 00:23:24,704 Speaker 1: is you know, talking to someone else like Nicole or something, 540 00:23:24,744 --> 00:23:27,384 Speaker 1: because I think they, you know, English is a language 541 00:23:27,464 --> 00:23:29,704 Speaker 1: they have always spoken together. But most of the time, 542 00:23:29,744 --> 00:23:32,264 Speaker 1: if you're watching Sylvie with the other people in the office, 543 00:23:32,944 --> 00:23:36,024 Speaker 1: or when Camie and Gabrielle are having all their big moments, 544 00:23:36,064 --> 00:23:38,544 Speaker 1: that's all in French. So unless you are florent in French, 545 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:40,504 Speaker 1: which I think most people in Australia are not, if 546 00:23:40,584 --> 00:23:43,064 Speaker 1: you're not looking at the screen for the subtitles, of 547 00:23:43,064 --> 00:23:44,784 Speaker 1: course you don't understand what the show is about because 548 00:23:44,784 --> 00:23:45,464 Speaker 1: you're missing at all. 549 00:23:45,544 --> 00:23:47,984 Speaker 2: I think they just missed an opportunity of getting Emily 550 00:23:48,224 --> 00:23:50,864 Speaker 2: better at French. One of my favorite shows ever, I 551 00:23:50,904 --> 00:23:53,704 Speaker 2: don't know if you watch this Switched at Birth, Yeah, 552 00:23:53,784 --> 00:23:56,464 Speaker 2: where a lot of the characters are deaf and have 553 00:23:56,504 --> 00:23:59,424 Speaker 2: to use ASL and sign language to communicate. And you 554 00:23:59,424 --> 00:24:01,904 Speaker 2: can see from like the first season where there's like 555 00:24:02,024 --> 00:24:04,944 Speaker 2: characters who are like having deaf people in their lives 556 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:07,384 Speaker 2: for the first time are learning ASL Yeah, and they 557 00:24:07,424 --> 00:24:10,104 Speaker 2: slowly get better throughout the seasons until they can all 558 00:24:10,504 --> 00:24:12,504 Speaker 2: signed to each other. Yeah, and I think that would 559 00:24:12,544 --> 00:24:15,344 Speaker 2: have been a beautiful opportunity with Emily in Paris, to 560 00:24:15,344 --> 00:24:17,624 Speaker 2: see her slowly develop actually trying. 561 00:24:17,904 --> 00:24:20,224 Speaker 1: She can't do it, Emily, and look, potentially, she's only 562 00:24:20,264 --> 00:24:22,704 Speaker 1: been in Paris for five months. Yes, you can't. We 563 00:24:22,744 --> 00:24:24,864 Speaker 1: don't know all five years I know, so I just 564 00:24:24,904 --> 00:24:26,704 Speaker 1: don't think we can hold her to it. We can 565 00:24:26,744 --> 00:24:28,224 Speaker 1: do what she can do it. No, but Mindy grew 566 00:24:28,304 --> 00:24:31,424 Speaker 1: up speaking French, That's why she's fluenced. Emily had never 567 00:24:31,424 --> 00:24:33,424 Speaker 1: been out of Chicago before she copped on that plane 568 00:24:33,464 --> 00:24:36,904 Speaker 1: to France. When people say that this show is embarrassing 569 00:24:36,904 --> 00:24:38,544 Speaker 1: and bad, and yes, so many parts of it are, 570 00:24:38,784 --> 00:24:41,304 Speaker 1: but then you have an actress like Philippine Larroi Balu, 571 00:24:41,384 --> 00:24:45,464 Speaker 1: who plays Sylvie is incredible and is such a force 572 00:24:45,504 --> 00:24:48,344 Speaker 1: in this show and is quite a nuanced, interesting character. 573 00:24:48,784 --> 00:24:51,024 Speaker 1: And I think the storyline that's written for her is interesting, 574 00:24:51,064 --> 00:24:53,384 Speaker 1: but I think she really takes and elevates it. And 575 00:24:53,424 --> 00:24:55,944 Speaker 1: the amount of stuff that we packed in for Sylvie 576 00:24:55,984 --> 00:24:58,344 Speaker 1: this season. Not only is she still dealing with Emily's crap, 577 00:24:58,624 --> 00:25:01,464 Speaker 1: but she's having her husband, you know, after they've been 578 00:25:01,504 --> 00:25:04,584 Speaker 1: living separately for years, come back. We become introduced to 579 00:25:04,584 --> 00:25:07,224 Speaker 1: her mother who is amazing, but you kind of see 580 00:25:07,304 --> 00:25:11,264 Speaker 1: how see how Sylvie's been raised. She a sexual assault 581 00:25:11,344 --> 00:25:13,744 Speaker 1: storyline where she has to sort of put her marriage 582 00:25:13,744 --> 00:25:15,944 Speaker 1: and her own life and her own and Sylvia is 583 00:25:15,944 --> 00:25:17,664 Speaker 1: a woman who is you know, that's why she and 584 00:25:17,704 --> 00:25:20,664 Speaker 1: Emily don't get along, as she values privacy and mystery 585 00:25:20,944 --> 00:25:24,304 Speaker 1: and professionalism above all else. And then she has to 586 00:25:24,344 --> 00:25:26,864 Speaker 1: put her entire story on the line to bring down 587 00:25:27,264 --> 00:25:29,784 Speaker 1: this man who has sexually assaulted her and who is 588 00:25:29,864 --> 00:25:32,824 Speaker 1: now you know, this huge businessman, which then in turn 589 00:25:33,024 --> 00:25:36,024 Speaker 1: ends up with her husband potentially losing his business. So 590 00:25:36,064 --> 00:25:39,184 Speaker 1: you have all that happening. Then she has her surprise 591 00:25:39,344 --> 00:25:42,264 Speaker 1: stepdaughter that they didn't know she exists until she was seventeen, 592 00:25:42,304 --> 00:25:44,544 Speaker 1: come and sleep on her couch. Then her husband she 593 00:25:44,584 --> 00:25:47,744 Speaker 1: finds out that he's having philandering affairs. Still, then she 594 00:25:47,784 --> 00:25:51,064 Speaker 1: heads off to room and not only tries to destroy 595 00:25:51,104 --> 00:25:54,984 Speaker 1: Emily's relationship for business reasons, starts a new company and 596 00:25:55,024 --> 00:25:57,104 Speaker 1: also starts having this sort of wild affair, and we 597 00:25:57,144 --> 00:25:59,104 Speaker 1: find out that she had this whole world in Rome. 598 00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:02,144 Speaker 1: I was like, fucking make a show about Sylvie. 599 00:26:02,024 --> 00:26:05,664 Speaker 2: Like I should do a prequel of like Sylvie's like journey. 600 00:26:05,744 --> 00:26:07,744 Speaker 1: Oh, I do love that idea, but I then like 601 00:26:07,744 --> 00:26:09,824 Speaker 1: Philippine and the actress wouldn't be playing her. I just 602 00:26:09,864 --> 00:26:12,784 Speaker 1: I would watch fifteen episode she could. I think she 603 00:26:12,784 --> 00:26:14,544 Speaker 1: could as like a twenty year old. I mean, look, 604 00:26:14,624 --> 00:26:16,504 Speaker 1: she's a hot woman. I'm not against it. I would. 605 00:26:16,704 --> 00:26:18,304 Speaker 1: I would sort of be very hard to watch it. 606 00:26:18,344 --> 00:26:20,304 Speaker 2: I pretend it's like you know when they do flashbacks 607 00:26:20,304 --> 00:26:22,304 Speaker 2: and like New Girl, and they just have the same 608 00:26:22,384 --> 00:26:24,144 Speaker 2: characters play themselves as teenagers. 609 00:26:24,184 --> 00:26:26,344 Speaker 1: I could do it. I just want like a spinoff 610 00:26:26,384 --> 00:26:29,104 Speaker 1: series of Sylvie to watch. And I also just find 611 00:26:29,144 --> 00:26:33,424 Speaker 1: that the relationship between Emily and Sylvie, much like the 612 00:26:33,584 --> 00:26:36,944 Speaker 1: relationship between Mindy and Emily, feels very earned. Like the 613 00:26:36,984 --> 00:26:38,864 Speaker 1: other kind of relationships in the show come and go 614 00:26:38,944 --> 00:26:40,504 Speaker 1: and they can change on a whim, like this person 615 00:26:40,504 --> 00:26:42,944 Speaker 1: hates each other, this person's like double cross. These people 616 00:26:42,984 --> 00:26:45,064 Speaker 1: are in love. Whereas Emily and Sylvie, I think we've 617 00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:48,344 Speaker 1: had a really good slow burn of like them being 618 00:26:48,384 --> 00:26:50,664 Speaker 1: forced together and then like the work pulling them apart, 619 00:26:50,704 --> 00:26:53,104 Speaker 1: and then Sylvie like kind of begrudgingly getting used to 620 00:26:53,144 --> 00:26:56,904 Speaker 1: Emily and where they're at now and their relationship feels 621 00:26:56,984 --> 00:26:59,024 Speaker 1: I think very true. To where they would be in 622 00:26:59,064 --> 00:26:59,544 Speaker 1: the show. 623 00:27:01,344 --> 00:27:03,184 Speaker 2: The Business Plane Ticket. I'm like, oh, you. 624 00:27:03,264 --> 00:27:06,904 Speaker 1: Really love Yeah, that really does. Which also brings us 625 00:27:06,904 --> 00:27:09,384 Speaker 1: to the last two episodes of the show, which was 626 00:27:09,424 --> 00:27:11,744 Speaker 1: Emily in Rome. I know, people talked a lot of 627 00:27:11,784 --> 00:27:14,904 Speaker 1: shit about the fashion after Patricia Field left, and the 628 00:27:14,904 --> 00:27:18,224 Speaker 1: fashion in Paris was questionable. I loved everything about her 629 00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:20,664 Speaker 1: room looks ten out of ten spot on. I just 630 00:27:20,664 --> 00:27:22,504 Speaker 1: want to wear flats on the scarf in my hair forever. 631 00:27:22,704 --> 00:27:25,104 Speaker 2: And the way she dressed with like the French colors 632 00:27:25,184 --> 00:27:27,384 Speaker 2: throughout the whole h shrip in Rome. It's just so 633 00:27:27,464 --> 00:27:28,064 Speaker 2: funny to me. 634 00:27:28,504 --> 00:27:30,704 Speaker 1: I don't think she knows what the French colors are, 635 00:27:30,864 --> 00:27:32,984 Speaker 1: but she nailed it. But I think the stylist is 636 00:27:33,024 --> 00:27:35,904 Speaker 1: alvery thinking that. I've got to say. Watching that last 637 00:27:36,024 --> 00:27:38,744 Speaker 1: bit of the season finale, my sister and I were like, 638 00:27:39,064 --> 00:27:41,064 Speaker 1: I mean, granted it was one am, we'd watched all 639 00:27:41,064 --> 00:27:43,264 Speaker 1: the episodes and gone through two bottles of wine, so 640 00:27:43,624 --> 00:27:46,024 Speaker 1: emotions were high, but we were screaming at the end 641 00:27:46,464 --> 00:27:49,384 Speaker 1: because they have that misdirect where you think she's going 642 00:27:49,464 --> 00:27:51,184 Speaker 1: to open the door to her new apartment and it's 643 00:27:51,224 --> 00:27:53,664 Speaker 1: going to be Gabrielle, but it's Marcello, who I think 644 00:27:53,784 --> 00:27:54,984 Speaker 1: is fine. I've got no sine. 645 00:27:55,224 --> 00:27:57,704 Speaker 2: I would have preferred then not be a man in Rome, 646 00:27:57,904 --> 00:28:01,064 Speaker 2: like she takes the job in Rome. It just be 647 00:28:01,184 --> 00:28:03,504 Speaker 2: like her like doing it for herself. Yeah, but she 648 00:28:03,544 --> 00:28:05,904 Speaker 2: obviously isn't. She's doing it for a man. But I 649 00:28:05,984 --> 00:28:08,904 Speaker 2: love the idea of off the grid Emily because the 650 00:28:09,064 --> 00:28:11,064 Speaker 2: entire breason this whole show, this is because she is 651 00:28:11,104 --> 00:28:13,624 Speaker 2: like an influencer, Emily in Paris, like Emily in Paris, 652 00:28:13,704 --> 00:28:16,024 Speaker 2: and you can see she's about to change her use 653 00:28:16,144 --> 00:28:17,944 Speaker 2: name to Emily in Rome, but she. 654 00:28:19,424 --> 00:28:21,544 Speaker 1: Puts her phone down and then leaves on a bike. 655 00:28:22,304 --> 00:28:24,664 Speaker 1: This man, I'm like, okay, But why that scene was 656 00:28:24,704 --> 00:28:28,184 Speaker 1: so important is that it mirrored like movement for movement 657 00:28:28,304 --> 00:28:30,504 Speaker 1: the end, and like shot for shot, it mirrored like 658 00:28:30,704 --> 00:28:33,864 Speaker 1: moment for moments, scene for scene. The end of episode 659 00:28:33,904 --> 00:28:36,984 Speaker 1: one of Emily in Paris, where the real estate agent leaves, 660 00:28:37,064 --> 00:28:39,464 Speaker 1: shuts the door, she does the look around, she turns 661 00:28:39,584 --> 00:28:42,104 Speaker 1: the window, she turns, she takes a selfie where she 662 00:28:42,144 --> 00:28:44,104 Speaker 1: gets none of the background in it's just her face. 663 00:28:44,104 --> 00:28:46,544 Speaker 1: She could be anywhere but anyway, and then you got 664 00:28:46,544 --> 00:28:47,944 Speaker 1: it and you think she's about to change it to 665 00:28:47,944 --> 00:28:51,224 Speaker 1: Emily and Rome, and that is that is I've never 666 00:28:51,264 --> 00:28:54,104 Speaker 1: been stakes have never been higher for a TV show. 667 00:28:54,944 --> 00:28:57,224 Speaker 1: With that, I also just loved when everyone else was 668 00:28:57,264 --> 00:29:00,384 Speaker 1: complaining about Emily getting the job. When Luke and Julian, 669 00:29:00,464 --> 00:29:01,864 Speaker 1: who I love and are amazing and I wish I 670 00:29:01,904 --> 00:29:04,104 Speaker 1: had more time to talk about them, were complaining about 671 00:29:04,104 --> 00:29:06,024 Speaker 1: the fact that Emily was moving there. She doesn't speak 672 00:29:06,024 --> 00:29:08,504 Speaker 1: Italian like she doesn't speak Frenchly at us, so it 673 00:29:08,544 --> 00:29:11,464 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter where we got jobs. But I thought 674 00:29:11,504 --> 00:29:13,984 Speaker 1: that was great storytelling and really set us up for 675 00:29:14,024 --> 00:29:16,224 Speaker 1: season five. And we now know that Emily and Paris 676 00:29:16,304 --> 00:29:19,784 Speaker 1: has been officially renewed for season five. Thank god, we 677 00:29:19,864 --> 00:29:22,504 Speaker 1: go here we go. Can you imagine? Ending on that 678 00:29:22,584 --> 00:29:24,384 Speaker 1: note is She's gonna be Emily in Paris and Emily 679 00:29:24,424 --> 00:29:29,064 Speaker 1: and Rome. I must know. I will not sleep until 680 00:29:29,104 --> 00:29:31,584 Speaker 1: I know this. But anyway, look, I know people wi 681 00:29:31,624 --> 00:29:33,504 Speaker 1: rubbish this show, but I think it's great. 682 00:29:33,704 --> 00:29:36,624 Speaker 2: Okay, it's ridiculous and silly, but it's so silly, unsure 683 00:29:36,624 --> 00:29:38,504 Speaker 2: about the plot, but you know what, I'll watch it 684 00:29:38,544 --> 00:29:39,264 Speaker 2: every single time. 685 00:29:43,824 --> 00:29:46,544 Speaker 1: The weekend watch It is. 686 00:29:46,704 --> 00:29:50,064 Speaker 2: Weekend watch time where we give you recommendations that you 687 00:29:50,064 --> 00:29:53,784 Speaker 2: can take with you over the weekend. So I have 688 00:29:54,064 --> 00:29:56,344 Speaker 2: been waiting to talk about this movie for months now 689 00:29:56,344 --> 00:29:59,744 Speaker 2: because I watched it months ago. It's Transformers one you 690 00:29:59,824 --> 00:30:02,104 Speaker 2: might have seen like on TikTok and Instagram. We were 691 00:30:02,224 --> 00:30:04,344 Speaker 2: at the red carpet and we got some cute little 692 00:30:04,384 --> 00:30:07,344 Speaker 2: videos of Chris Hemsworth, who is the lead in it. 693 00:30:07,384 --> 00:30:10,224 Speaker 2: He plays Optimist Prime. It is an animation, so he 694 00:30:10,424 --> 00:30:13,744 Speaker 2: voice acted Optimist Prime. It's a massive cast. Brian Tyrey, 695 00:30:13,744 --> 00:30:17,304 Speaker 2: Henry plays Megatrons, Scarlett Johansson's in it, John Ham's and 696 00:30:17,304 --> 00:30:20,024 Speaker 2: there Lawrence Fishburns in it. A huge cast, but it's 697 00:30:20,024 --> 00:30:22,704 Speaker 2: an animation. I went to the fans screening, which you 698 00:30:22,784 --> 00:30:23,264 Speaker 2: know about. 699 00:30:23,544 --> 00:30:25,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gave you my tickets sack because I was like, 700 00:30:25,104 --> 00:30:26,504 Speaker 1: gome and see this, you'll love it. 701 00:30:26,864 --> 00:30:29,144 Speaker 2: I thought I was a fan of Transformers, and then 702 00:30:29,184 --> 00:30:31,224 Speaker 2: I went to the fans screening and realized I'm not 703 00:30:31,304 --> 00:30:33,944 Speaker 2: even close to being a fan. As much as the 704 00:30:34,024 --> 00:30:37,464 Speaker 2: massive fan base we have in Australia for the Transformers franchise. 705 00:30:37,904 --> 00:30:39,984 Speaker 2: It was insane. They did like the Mexican Wave in 706 00:30:40,024 --> 00:30:42,864 Speaker 2: the theater. Optimist Prime got a standing ovation every time. 707 00:30:42,984 --> 00:30:44,664 Speaker 1: He's sure that's an important character. 708 00:30:44,984 --> 00:30:47,184 Speaker 2: He is a very important character, but transforms one. We 709 00:30:47,224 --> 00:30:50,144 Speaker 2: have talked about it briefly on the podcast, but you see, 710 00:30:50,224 --> 00:30:54,024 Speaker 2: it's like kind of the prequel to the Transformers franchise, 711 00:30:54,064 --> 00:30:57,344 Speaker 2: where you see how Optimist Prime and Megatron, who we 712 00:30:57,424 --> 00:31:00,144 Speaker 2: know is like sworn enemies were actually really good friends 713 00:31:00,184 --> 00:31:02,584 Speaker 2: and what happened to them to make them enemies? 714 00:31:04,344 --> 00:31:09,464 Speaker 1: Where's Optimist Prime? The filthy red and blue butt gives 715 00:31:09,464 --> 00:31:13,224 Speaker 1: off a corota metallic EXTENTI okay, Prota, that is too far. 716 00:31:13,584 --> 00:31:17,384 Speaker 2: Okay, you have the power to make your world better, 717 00:31:19,384 --> 00:31:20,864 Speaker 2: but this fight is mine. 718 00:31:21,344 --> 00:31:23,424 Speaker 1: Weird, Okay, so he's a little intense. 719 00:31:23,704 --> 00:31:27,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, just so matter, Frans Fombers one is in cinemas 720 00:31:27,824 --> 00:31:29,864 Speaker 2: right now, please go watch it, all right. 721 00:31:29,904 --> 00:31:31,744 Speaker 1: I also have a movie to recommend. They could not 722 00:31:31,864 --> 00:31:35,424 Speaker 1: be more different. I'm recommending an incredible new drama with 723 00:31:35,504 --> 00:31:38,584 Speaker 1: some fantastic performances by some of my favorite actresses that 724 00:31:38,664 --> 00:31:41,384 Speaker 1: has just dropped on Netflix today. So it's called His 725 00:31:41,504 --> 00:31:45,664 Speaker 1: Three Daughters, and oh, I cannot tell you how amazing 726 00:31:45,704 --> 00:31:48,064 Speaker 1: it is. And so it did actually come out last 727 00:31:48,144 --> 00:31:50,184 Speaker 1: year and had but I only had a very limited 728 00:31:50,224 --> 00:31:52,824 Speaker 1: release in American theaters. It premiered at the Toronto Film 729 00:31:52,864 --> 00:31:56,184 Speaker 1: Festival to great acclaim. But this is the first time 730 00:31:56,224 --> 00:31:57,984 Speaker 1: that you've been able to really watch it in Australia 731 00:31:57,984 --> 00:32:00,504 Speaker 1: because it's coming out on Netflix. So and it's also 732 00:32:00,544 --> 00:32:02,184 Speaker 1: the kind of move that is just lovely to watch 733 00:32:02,224 --> 00:32:04,024 Speaker 1: at home, so you can really take it in. So 734 00:32:04,064 --> 00:32:07,304 Speaker 1: the movie stars a natache Leone incredible, Elizabeth Olsen, she's 735 00:32:07,384 --> 00:32:09,624 Speaker 1: so good in this, and Carrie Koone I just one 736 00:32:09,624 --> 00:32:12,744 Speaker 1: of the greatest actresses of this generation. And they play 737 00:32:12,944 --> 00:32:16,424 Speaker 1: two biological sisters, one sister who was raised by this man. 738 00:32:16,544 --> 00:32:19,664 Speaker 1: They play three estranged sisters who have all gathered in 739 00:32:19,704 --> 00:32:22,064 Speaker 1: the New York City apartment of their father, who isn't 740 00:32:22,064 --> 00:32:24,024 Speaker 1: hospice care and it is about to pass away. I 741 00:32:24,104 --> 00:32:27,144 Speaker 1: understand what a stressful situation is. It's very nice that 742 00:32:27,184 --> 00:32:29,384 Speaker 1: you're all here at a time like this. We all 743 00:32:29,424 --> 00:32:32,064 Speaker 1: want your father and to transition as peaceful as possible. 744 00:32:32,264 --> 00:32:33,344 Speaker 2: It's nice that it's us. 745 00:32:33,704 --> 00:32:35,224 Speaker 1: This is the way it should be, the way he 746 00:32:35,264 --> 00:32:35,784 Speaker 1: would want it. 747 00:32:37,824 --> 00:32:40,304 Speaker 2: The plan is we all will take turns watching over. 748 00:32:41,464 --> 00:32:43,744 Speaker 1: You know she hasn't done a shift, right, Oh yeah, 749 00:32:43,824 --> 00:32:44,904 Speaker 1: you unify. That's strange. 750 00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:47,344 Speaker 2: Once we get here, she steps back from all responsibility. 751 00:32:47,664 --> 00:32:51,824 Speaker 1: He started drinking a few hours ago. They may act 752 00:32:51,904 --> 00:32:54,224 Speaker 1: like they got it, but they don't. 753 00:32:55,424 --> 00:32:59,504 Speaker 2: Okay, I die. 754 00:33:00,744 --> 00:33:03,744 Speaker 1: It's about the time they spend in this apartment while 755 00:33:03,744 --> 00:33:05,784 Speaker 1: they're waiting for their father to pass away. They haven't 756 00:33:05,784 --> 00:33:08,104 Speaker 1: been each other's lives for a long time, and it's 757 00:33:08,144 --> 00:33:10,344 Speaker 1: about this whole thing of like the relationship between these 758 00:33:10,704 --> 00:33:13,544 Speaker 1: and the complexity of that, and also the complexity of 759 00:33:13,584 --> 00:33:15,264 Speaker 1: like things that you hold onto as you grow up, 760 00:33:15,264 --> 00:33:17,544 Speaker 1: and also how we deal with grief and death. And 761 00:33:17,584 --> 00:33:20,544 Speaker 1: so there's really heartwarming moments, there's really sad moments. There's 762 00:33:20,544 --> 00:33:23,624 Speaker 1: also wildly funny moments. And I love movies like this. 763 00:33:23,784 --> 00:33:25,784 Speaker 1: It made me think of one of my favorite movies 764 00:33:25,784 --> 00:33:29,064 Speaker 1: of recent years, Women Talking, where there is an incredible plot, 765 00:33:29,144 --> 00:33:32,384 Speaker 1: but it's very much just about having these three actresses 766 00:33:32,544 --> 00:33:35,784 Speaker 1: in a space together with this incredible script and just 767 00:33:35,864 --> 00:33:37,784 Speaker 1: letting them do their thing, letting it be a showcase, 768 00:33:37,864 --> 00:33:40,024 Speaker 1: almost like Good Luck to You Leo Grand with Emma 769 00:33:40,184 --> 00:33:42,744 Speaker 1: Thompson a few years ago, where it's just watching. And 770 00:33:42,744 --> 00:33:45,144 Speaker 1: I think sometimes, especially like with the way we consume 771 00:33:45,224 --> 00:33:47,424 Speaker 1: movies now, we can get really caught up on like 772 00:33:47,624 --> 00:33:50,464 Speaker 1: this big all star cast or this flashy location or 773 00:33:50,504 --> 00:33:52,944 Speaker 1: a murder mystery. And I think sometimes it's really amazing 774 00:33:52,984 --> 00:33:56,464 Speaker 1: to sit and watch a story just unfold quietly with 775 00:33:56,504 --> 00:33:59,224 Speaker 1: these great performances, especially like women and sister. 776 00:33:59,304 --> 00:34:01,824 Speaker 2: I feel like if you have sisters, like it just 777 00:34:01,944 --> 00:34:02,864 Speaker 2: hits on another lie. 778 00:34:02,904 --> 00:34:05,064 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah. Those moments in there, well, they'll be 779 00:34:05,144 --> 00:34:07,624 Speaker 1: having these really intense fights about something it happened ages ago, 780 00:34:07,704 --> 00:34:09,384 Speaker 1: and then they kind of just laughing about a little 781 00:34:09,384 --> 00:34:12,064 Speaker 1: in joke about it something the hospice care said, and 782 00:34:12,104 --> 00:34:14,024 Speaker 1: how she can't predict their father's death and like why 783 00:34:14,024 --> 00:34:15,824 Speaker 1: is she Boways so wrong? And you know what I mean, 784 00:34:15,864 --> 00:34:17,504 Speaker 1: You just have those little in moments. So yeah, it's 785 00:34:17,544 --> 00:34:20,384 Speaker 1: his three daughters. It's out on Netflix today, and I 786 00:34:20,504 --> 00:34:23,104 Speaker 1: just really urge you to sit down, put your phone down, 787 00:34:23,184 --> 00:34:25,304 Speaker 1: and just like let the story wash over you because 788 00:34:25,304 --> 00:34:26,144 Speaker 1: it's really brilliant. 789 00:34:26,424 --> 00:34:28,544 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 790 00:34:28,584 --> 00:34:31,144 Speaker 2: If you missed any of our episodes. Last week, we 791 00:34:31,224 --> 00:34:34,224 Speaker 2: did a brutally honest review of The Perfect Couple, the 792 00:34:34,304 --> 00:34:37,904 Speaker 2: limited Netflix series. We will link that in our show notes. Plus, 793 00:34:37,944 --> 00:34:40,024 Speaker 2: if you want more content on Emily in Paris, we 794 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:43,304 Speaker 2: have covered Emily in Paris so much on Mamma Mia website. 795 00:34:43,304 --> 00:34:45,184 Speaker 2: We will link all those articles in our show notes 796 00:34:45,224 --> 00:34:45,584 Speaker 2: as well. 797 00:34:45,704 --> 00:34:46,144 Speaker 1: For you. 798 00:34:46,624 --> 00:34:48,304 Speaker 2: We will be back here in your podcast feed at 799 00:34:48,304 --> 00:34:49,224 Speaker 2: three pm on Monday. 800 00:34:49,384 --> 00:34:55,624 Speaker 1: Bye byelan It