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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Muma Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of the land and

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Speaker 2: waters that this podcast is recorded on. Does the world

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Speaker 2: lie to us about happiness? For a long time, I

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Speaker 2: have thought that it probably does, And because the world

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Speaker 2: lies to us about happiness, a lot of us have

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Speaker 2: a really complicated relationship with it. I am obsessed with

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Speaker 2: the question of what happiness is and how we find it.

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Speaker 2: A matt is what I'm trying to find out on

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Speaker 2: this podcast. I'm Klas Stevens. I'm a writer, a podcaster,

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Speaker 2: and I'm the host of But Are You Happy? The

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Speaker 2: podcast that asks the questions you've always wanted to know

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Speaker 2: from the people who appear to have it all. If

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Speaker 2: you listen to season three, you would have heard really

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Speaker 2: candid conversations with people like Olympic gold medalist Harry m Tickmas.

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Speaker 2: I know that who I am as a person has

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Speaker 2: way more to offer the world than what my swimming does.

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Speaker 2: Comedian Josh Thomas.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I find these questions like they're like making me.

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Speaker 1: I've never even considered having canc It's not even link.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time I've ever considered that it's weird.

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Speaker 2: And Chef can't on. I don't know how to answer that.

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Speaker 2: The season four, we are digging even deeper. We've heard

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Speaker 2: from our audience that you're eager to learn lessons from

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Speaker 2: people we speak to. You want to know how it

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Speaker 2: is that they actively choose happiness in their day to

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Speaker 2: day lives. This season, we're chatting to a fresh group

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Speaker 2: of guests. One is a singer songwriter I have been

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Speaker 2: obsessed with ever since I was a teenager. One is

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Speaker 2: a ballet answer and boxer, and one is a new

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Speaker 2: voice that Australia has fallen in love with. We are

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Speaker 2: going to learn how to fail, how to heal, how

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Speaker 2: to make boundaries, how to know when we're happy and

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Speaker 2: how to be present for it, and how to move

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Speaker 2: through times when we're unhappy with wisdom, And of course

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Speaker 2: I'll ask the two signature questions that define this podcast.

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Speaker 2: One what was the time the world told you you'd

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Speaker 2: be happy and you weren't? And two, right now, as

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Speaker 2: your life stands, are you actually happy? But? Are you happy?

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Speaker 2: Season four launches Thursday, September twelve, which is Ruakday. You

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Speaker 2: can find it wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts,