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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of the land and

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Speaker 2: waters that this podcast is recorded on.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Shiny Dante, host of But Are You Happy?

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Speaker 4: Did you know that.

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Speaker 3: One in five Australians experience and mental health condition each year,

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Speaker 3: Yet too many suffer in silence. Talking about our feelings

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Speaker 3: and experiences is one of the most powerful steps towards

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Speaker 3: healing and knowing we're not alone. That's why we're introducing

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Speaker 3: I Never told You This, a series created to spark honest,

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Speaker 3: meaningful conversations that support better mental well being, brought to

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Speaker 3: you by Medibank.

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Speaker 1: There's been a change, and I just feel as though

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Speaker 1: you rely on me a lot. I feel bad for leaving.

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Speaker 4: Two people one big reveal.

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Speaker 2: I never told you this A simple card game where

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Speaker 2: one question could change everything.

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Speaker 4: It starts like, what more things brings me joy? I'm

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Speaker 4: not going to answer that.

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Speaker 2: Then comes the moment that could shift a relationship forever.

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Speaker 2: As they finished this sentence, I never told you this.

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Speaker 4: I've never told you. They never told you this.

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Speaker 2: Today, mother and daughter, Amelia and Slavka will be sitting

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Speaker 2: down together.

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Speaker 1: My mom and I often have these conversations.

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Speaker 4: Amelia has something big to tell her mother.

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Speaker 1: It's always a little bit scary bringing something up hearing

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Speaker 1: her response. But I'm excited, welcome. So how are you feeling, Mum?

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Speaker 5: Feeling a little bit nervous, which is normal.

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Speaker 1: I think you know that I enjoy these types of conversations.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm to do keen to chat to you

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Speaker 1: about it in depth and in an environment where you

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Speaker 1: can't run away from me and not tell me that

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Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 6: I agree, that's not running.

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Speaker 5: What is the game?

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Speaker 1: The card game is called the Medibank Family Roast Cards,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to each take turns asking each other

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Speaker 1: some questions.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go first. I'm going to pick up a

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Speaker 1: card and read the question. Now, tell us about an

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Speaker 1: embarrassing childchildhood memory.

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Speaker 5: And I fell off the bike. We were showing off,

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Speaker 5: obviously as a teenager, so it was like a little

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Speaker 5: stupid competition. Do you have to close our eyes open

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Speaker 5: wide arms blinded? Down the hill? Nearly broke my knee

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Speaker 5: and everyone was laughing. There was a really embarrassing moment

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Speaker 5: for me. So tell me about an act of kindness

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Speaker 5: you remember me doing for you.

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Speaker 1: You're an act of service month. If you could do

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Speaker 1: anything for us, you would do it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I want to always be there for my kids. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you definitely thank you, so it was good to know. Actually,

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Speaker 5: thank you, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, And I'm sorry if I don't say it enough,

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Speaker 1: because I really do think that.

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Speaker 3: The rest of this episode of I never told you

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Speaker 3: this right after the break.

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Speaker 1: Now we're up to the big reveal. Okay, so the

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Speaker 1: card says I never told you this. Sorry, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: a bit of mere Sorry for a bit of backstory.

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Speaker 1: We know that I'm going to Europe very soon. I

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Speaker 1: bought a one way ticket, yes, but I've never told

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Speaker 1: you that. It's actually pretty hard for me to leave

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Speaker 1: because I feel almost guilty for going. So for a

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Speaker 1: bit of context, Obviously Dad passed away, and you know

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Speaker 1: he was sick for a very long time, but still

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Speaker 1: it was unexpected. And obviously you and I became really

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Speaker 1: really close.

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Speaker 5: Even more closer.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be around you. I felt safe and comfortable,

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Speaker 1: and you really helped me heal and it was beautiful.

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Speaker 5: We know.

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Speaker 1: Since Dad passed away about a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 1: There's been a change, and I just feel as though

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Speaker 1: you rely on me a lot. I feel bad even

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Speaker 1: more so for leaving, and again I don't want to

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Speaker 1: feel that way. I feel like that is holding me back.

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Speaker 1: I think five years were really, really hard. He was

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Speaker 1: diagnosed with dementia and Parkinson's and see how did you

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Speaker 1: feel during that.

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Speaker 5: I don't mind looking after That's something in my nature.

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Speaker 5: I believe it's I don't mind changing him and bathing

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Speaker 5: him and giving him medication. But the hardest thing is

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Speaker 5: to see him every days deteriorating and his health is

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Speaker 5: getting more and more sick. After I quit my work,

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Speaker 5: my job, and that was the hardest decision. I felt

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Speaker 5: like my freedom was taken away from me. At one stage,

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Speaker 5: I was thinking, how long is this going to last?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Wow, At first I was feeling like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 5: you know she's leaving me. How can she do that

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Speaker 5: to me? Those other things in my mind. I was

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Speaker 5: actually thinking, what if she feels that way, that's not good.

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Speaker 5: We have this good relationship and I don't want any

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Speaker 5: secrets between us, so I don't want you to feel

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Speaker 5: that way anymore. I'm kind of came with ease with that.

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Speaker 5: It is going to be hard for me without you,

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Speaker 5: but that's not fair to not let you go just

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Speaker 5: because I need to hold you next to me. I

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Speaker 5: left my mum too, I went for another life, and

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Speaker 5: she didn't say why you're going.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm actually pleasantly surprised by your response, But in

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Speaker 1: saying that, I could sense that you were feeling a

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Speaker 1: little bit more at ease, because initially, when you remember,

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Speaker 1: when I would mention me booking I was angry. I

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Speaker 1: would often get the response off I talk.

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Speaker 6: About it, you would just walk away, And that was

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Speaker 6: honestly pretty hard for me because I've often been the

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Speaker 6: sort of holder or the safety in that of our

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Speaker 6: family family, and it's a lot of weight to carry.

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Speaker 5: I have to, as I said, give you my blessing

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Speaker 5: and let you go. And you do need to follow

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Speaker 5: your dreams.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much mum for sharing.

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Speaker 5: Oh thank you for inviting me. You know how much

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Speaker 5: I love you.

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Speaker 1: Are we going to hug each other.

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Speaker 5: I have to hug you now and