1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,584 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,584 --> 00:00:29,464 Speaker 1: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,544 --> 00:00:32,584 Speaker 1: Brodneck and I'm Casene Lookitch and coming up on the 7 00:00:32,624 --> 00:00:34,664 Speaker 1: show today. I know you've heard a lot about this 8 00:00:34,744 --> 00:00:37,784 Speaker 1: big billionaire Bezos wedding and all the celebs being in 9 00:00:37,864 --> 00:00:41,144 Speaker 1: Vennes but there is so much interesting little stories that 10 00:00:41,264 --> 00:00:42,624 Speaker 1: came off the back of this. So we're not going 11 00:00:42,624 --> 00:00:44,744 Speaker 1: to get into what the billionaires did at their wedding. 12 00:00:44,984 --> 00:00:47,184 Speaker 1: We're going to get into what happened in the streets 13 00:00:47,184 --> 00:00:50,024 Speaker 1: of Venice with all the celebs there, because it kind 14 00:00:50,024 --> 00:00:51,664 Speaker 1: of had more like a little bit more drama, a 15 00:00:51,704 --> 00:00:53,744 Speaker 1: bit more intrigue than some of the big red carpets 16 00:00:53,744 --> 00:00:54,464 Speaker 1: we've seen recently. 17 00:00:54,584 --> 00:00:57,704 Speaker 2: There are some juicy, juicy pap shots. 18 00:00:58,144 --> 00:01:00,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we no, we don't condone pap shots. We 19 00:01:00,384 --> 00:01:02,784 Speaker 1: will talk about them when needed. So we're going to 20 00:01:02,784 --> 00:01:05,184 Speaker 1: get into that today. But first a bit of Australian 21 00:01:05,264 --> 00:01:09,544 Speaker 1: TV drama. So the host of Australian Survivor, Jonathan Lapalia, 22 00:01:09,584 --> 00:01:13,904 Speaker 1: put out a pretty emotional statement, saying that after ten years, 23 00:01:13,944 --> 00:01:17,504 Speaker 1: he'd been let go from the Channel ten series Australian Survivor. 24 00:01:17,904 --> 00:01:21,664 Speaker 1: So posting on his Instagram page, he said Australian Survivor 25 00:01:21,704 --> 00:01:23,824 Speaker 1: has seen some of the most epic blind sides over 26 00:01:23,824 --> 00:01:26,424 Speaker 1: the last ten years, but this one might be the 27 00:01:26,504 --> 00:01:29,504 Speaker 1: craziest of them all because it happened to me, like, 28 00:01:29,544 --> 00:01:32,024 Speaker 1: I know, he's upset. That's good storytelling. Right after that, 29 00:01:32,544 --> 00:01:34,184 Speaker 1: I'm not even a Survivor fan. He's got me in, 30 00:01:34,784 --> 00:01:37,464 Speaker 1: He said. I received a call from the network thanking 31 00:01:37,504 --> 00:01:40,064 Speaker 1: me for all my hard work and dedication to the show. 32 00:01:40,304 --> 00:01:42,864 Speaker 1: But for the next season they are going in a 33 00:01:42,904 --> 00:01:43,744 Speaker 1: different direction. 34 00:01:43,904 --> 00:01:44,904 Speaker 2: I hate that phrase. 35 00:01:45,344 --> 00:01:47,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean exactly, that's what you say to 36 00:01:47,424 --> 00:01:49,504 Speaker 1: kind of smooth it over when you're letting someone go. 37 00:01:50,064 --> 00:01:51,784 Speaker 1: And then he said this is where it gets juicy. 38 00:01:51,864 --> 00:01:54,584 Speaker 1: He said ratings had dipped a bit recently and they 39 00:01:54,624 --> 00:01:57,264 Speaker 1: wanted to do something drastic to shake things up. So 40 00:01:57,344 --> 00:01:59,584 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, this is not a tribe swap, 41 00:01:59,624 --> 00:02:02,184 Speaker 1: but a host swap. Yes, you read that right. He 42 00:02:02,264 --> 00:02:04,944 Speaker 1: went on to talk about how he wished it wasn't happening. 43 00:02:05,024 --> 00:02:06,864 Speaker 1: He said he has no idol in his back pocket. 44 00:02:06,864 --> 00:02:09,504 Speaker 1: That's a Survivor joke about not being able to change 45 00:02:09,504 --> 00:02:11,464 Speaker 1: their decision. Went on to say how much he loved 46 00:02:11,504 --> 00:02:13,944 Speaker 1: working on the show with a talented crew and how 47 00:02:13,944 --> 00:02:16,624 Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest achievements of his life, and 48 00:02:16,664 --> 00:02:18,464 Speaker 1: then went on to say, don't pull the hankies out 49 00:02:18,544 --> 00:02:20,864 Speaker 1: just yet, because they've already pre filmed the next season 50 00:02:20,864 --> 00:02:23,704 Speaker 1: of Survivor, so he's hosting that, but after that that'll. 51 00:02:23,424 --> 00:02:24,184 Speaker 2: Be his last season. 52 00:02:24,424 --> 00:02:24,824 Speaker 1: Yeah. 53 00:02:24,984 --> 00:02:26,984 Speaker 2: Here at the moment, me are officers. We have quite 54 00:02:27,024 --> 00:02:29,224 Speaker 2: a few big Survivor fans. Now, you and I are 55 00:02:29,264 --> 00:02:34,184 Speaker 2: both not massive fans. I can understand the impact it's 56 00:02:34,224 --> 00:02:37,784 Speaker 2: had on like the culture, but we've got some hardcore 57 00:02:38,184 --> 00:02:41,624 Speaker 2: Survivor fans in this office, so we thought that we 58 00:02:41,624 --> 00:02:45,704 Speaker 2: would share their reactions to losing Jonathan Lapalia as the 59 00:02:45,744 --> 00:02:47,384 Speaker 2: host of Australian Survivor. 60 00:02:47,704 --> 00:02:51,944 Speaker 3: I am so shook. I don't think I've ever been 61 00:02:52,024 --> 00:02:57,744 Speaker 3: this shook over like a reality TV news story. Just 62 00:02:57,904 --> 00:03:02,864 Speaker 3: to put into like context, like Jonathan Lapaalia is the 63 00:03:02,904 --> 00:03:05,304 Speaker 3: most beloved Survivor host. 64 00:03:05,064 --> 00:03:06,544 Speaker 1: Potentially in the whole world. 65 00:03:06,784 --> 00:03:08,824 Speaker 3: Like I know Jeff Propes has a lot of fans, 66 00:03:08,944 --> 00:03:11,904 Speaker 3: but I would say that people are just as passionate 67 00:03:11,984 --> 00:03:16,864 Speaker 3: about Donethi la Palia. So he's a titan of reality TV, 68 00:03:17,704 --> 00:03:21,464 Speaker 3: and it makes everything much more juicier that it seems 69 00:03:21,504 --> 00:03:23,584 Speaker 3: like he did not leave on his own accord. It 70 00:03:23,664 --> 00:03:26,864 Speaker 3: sounds like something's happened with ten and his contract has 71 00:03:26,904 --> 00:03:29,824 Speaker 3: been ended. I don't know what the glosses, but it 72 00:03:30,024 --> 00:03:32,984 Speaker 3: is wild and we're all screaming, crying, throwing up. 73 00:03:33,464 --> 00:03:36,624 Speaker 4: My entire friendship group is in mourning, like we are 74 00:03:36,664 --> 00:03:40,784 Speaker 4: not handling this news. Our group chat about Survivor is 75 00:03:40,864 --> 00:03:44,464 Speaker 4: called JLP's Arms. That's how much this man matters to us. 76 00:03:44,664 --> 00:03:46,664 Speaker 4: So it definitely was a big shock to see that 77 00:03:46,744 --> 00:03:49,824 Speaker 4: he was acts like. It's widely known that he is 78 00:03:49,864 --> 00:03:52,624 Speaker 4: the best Survivor host behind Jeff Probes, the host of 79 00:03:52,664 --> 00:03:57,384 Speaker 4: the original US version. So very shocking news, but interesting 80 00:03:57,424 --> 00:03:59,664 Speaker 4: to see why the decision was made. 81 00:04:00,024 --> 00:04:03,104 Speaker 5: I'm a fairly casual watcher of Survivor these days, but 82 00:04:03,144 --> 00:04:06,384 Speaker 5: I have to say I'm quite surprised by JLP being oustairged. 83 00:04:06,464 --> 00:04:08,424 Speaker 1: You know, he's such a fantastic host. He does an 84 00:04:08,464 --> 00:04:09,144 Speaker 1: amazing job. 85 00:04:09,224 --> 00:04:12,344 Speaker 5: He's probably, like, you know, the most iconic Survivor hosting 86 00:04:12,384 --> 00:04:14,304 Speaker 5: the world in my opinion after Jeff and like he 87 00:04:14,304 --> 00:04:16,344 Speaker 5: does such a good job of like matching that energy 88 00:04:16,344 --> 00:04:19,264 Speaker 5: and bringing so much to the table. Like I love him, 89 00:04:19,304 --> 00:04:21,384 Speaker 5: and I think he's going to be a bit sad 90 00:04:21,424 --> 00:04:24,144 Speaker 5: to watch Survivor without him. I think, like, at the 91 00:04:24,184 --> 00:04:26,704 Speaker 5: same time, if the rumors are true and you know, 92 00:04:26,864 --> 00:04:29,824 Speaker 5: David Golden God does take his place, I think he'll 93 00:04:29,824 --> 00:04:32,304 Speaker 5: bring something really interesting to the table, but it will 94 00:04:32,384 --> 00:04:34,264 Speaker 5: definitely be like a bit of a different dynamic. He's 95 00:04:34,304 --> 00:04:37,384 Speaker 5: one of the best players you know in the Australian game, arguably, 96 00:04:37,424 --> 00:04:39,264 Speaker 5: and so it might be hard for him to kind 97 00:04:39,264 --> 00:04:41,384 Speaker 5: of just sit on the sidelines and be a bit 98 00:04:41,424 --> 00:04:43,784 Speaker 5: more impartial the way that you know JLP does. But 99 00:04:44,104 --> 00:04:46,264 Speaker 5: I'm excited to see what happens. But I'm very, very 100 00:04:46,264 --> 00:04:47,624 Speaker 5: devastated for JLP. 101 00:04:47,944 --> 00:04:51,264 Speaker 1: That is not nice. It's obviously devastating for the Survivor community. 102 00:04:51,384 --> 00:04:54,624 Speaker 1: My colleagues were in mourning and upset and like nearly 103 00:04:54,624 --> 00:04:57,104 Speaker 1: having to take personal days. So many people were messaging 104 00:04:57,104 --> 00:04:58,504 Speaker 1: me being like, oh my god, I can't wait till 105 00:04:58,504 --> 00:04:59,944 Speaker 1: you guys talk about this on the spill. This is 106 00:04:59,984 --> 00:05:02,624 Speaker 1: the biggest news. Like all my social feeds were filling 107 00:05:02,664 --> 00:05:04,784 Speaker 1: up with it like it has hit people hard. 108 00:05:04,624 --> 00:05:07,944 Speaker 2: I know, And it's an interesting move. You know, Australian Survivor. 109 00:05:07,984 --> 00:05:11,664 Speaker 2: It's not one of like the biggest rad things carriers, 110 00:05:11,744 --> 00:05:15,824 Speaker 2: but it has been a really consistently good show on 111 00:05:15,904 --> 00:05:18,824 Speaker 2: Network ten, So it's an interesting move. It's like, why 112 00:05:19,184 --> 00:05:22,304 Speaker 2: try and fix something if it's not broken, Like he 113 00:05:22,384 --> 00:05:25,544 Speaker 2: obviously has a lot of fans, he obviously was not 114 00:05:25,664 --> 00:05:29,304 Speaker 2: expecting it. I'm wondering if it's a budget thing, like 115 00:05:29,544 --> 00:05:33,544 Speaker 2: his contract was up. Perhaps he was too expensive and 116 00:05:33,584 --> 00:05:35,344 Speaker 2: they're trying to get someone who's a little bit cheaper 117 00:05:35,384 --> 00:05:38,384 Speaker 2: because I'd say after the amount of years that he's 118 00:05:38,424 --> 00:05:42,384 Speaker 2: done with Survivor, he's on a pretty good wikend. But 119 00:05:42,424 --> 00:05:44,104 Speaker 2: perhaps they're just trying to look for a more cost 120 00:05:44,104 --> 00:05:44,864 Speaker 2: effective option. 121 00:05:45,264 --> 00:05:47,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously all like the rumors and comments 122 00:05:47,624 --> 00:05:49,864 Speaker 1: are swirling, Like if you go into all the comment threads, 123 00:05:50,104 --> 00:05:52,744 Speaker 1: a lot of past cast members on The Survivor are 124 00:05:52,984 --> 00:05:55,504 Speaker 1: virtually very upset about it, but also saying that it 125 00:05:55,544 --> 00:05:57,704 Speaker 1: could be to do with cost cutting or they're bringing 126 00:05:57,704 --> 00:05:59,784 Speaker 1: in maybe more of a stunt host, like a past 127 00:06:00,184 --> 00:06:02,664 Speaker 1: contestant with a really big following to kind of shake 128 00:06:02,744 --> 00:06:04,544 Speaker 1: things up. But I don't know, it's interesting. I just 129 00:06:04,544 --> 00:06:07,304 Speaker 1: think Network ten is just having a big shake up 130 00:06:07,344 --> 00:06:09,744 Speaker 1: across all their shows at the moment. I mean, after 131 00:06:09,784 --> 00:06:12,184 Speaker 1: like getting the project and then bringing that new news 132 00:06:12,184 --> 00:06:14,544 Speaker 1: show and wanting to shake this up. I feel like 133 00:06:14,584 --> 00:06:17,264 Speaker 1: they just like they're just sitting around a board room 134 00:06:17,264 --> 00:06:20,184 Speaker 1: table trying to like just see all the different pieces 135 00:06:20,224 --> 00:06:22,824 Speaker 1: they can move around, like get ratings up, save money. 136 00:06:22,824 --> 00:06:24,304 Speaker 1: I mean that's what we're seeing in every network at 137 00:06:24,344 --> 00:06:24,544 Speaker 1: the time. 138 00:06:24,664 --> 00:06:24,824 Speaker 4: Yeah. 139 00:06:24,904 --> 00:06:27,464 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I would say, my gut tells me 140 00:06:27,584 --> 00:06:32,104 Speaker 2: it's probably a cost cutting reason. I would say Jonathan 141 00:06:32,184 --> 00:06:33,824 Speaker 2: Napolio is just too expensive for them. 142 00:06:34,104 --> 00:06:36,104 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I guess the interesting thing is a lot 143 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:38,584 Speaker 1: of celebrities because they have this kind of very media 144 00:06:38,624 --> 00:06:41,544 Speaker 1: trained persona online would have just put up a statement 145 00:06:41,584 --> 00:06:44,184 Speaker 1: saying like I loved my time and you can't wait 146 00:06:44,184 --> 00:06:45,984 Speaker 1: to see where they go next, and I'm sad to leave, 147 00:06:46,024 --> 00:06:48,944 Speaker 1: but I wish everyone the best. But because Jonathan Lapalia 148 00:06:49,104 --> 00:06:51,704 Speaker 1: is so outspoken, just kind of everyone I know who's 149 00:06:51,744 --> 00:06:54,424 Speaker 1: interviewed him just said like he just is so direct. 150 00:06:54,504 --> 00:06:56,824 Speaker 1: He doesn't mince his words, he doesn't follow what the 151 00:06:56,824 --> 00:06:58,504 Speaker 1: PR team tell him to say. He just says what 152 00:06:58,544 --> 00:07:00,984 Speaker 1: he wants. So it'll be interesting as this next season 153 00:07:00,984 --> 00:07:03,344 Speaker 1: of Survivor airs and they announce the new host to 154 00:07:03,424 --> 00:07:05,944 Speaker 1: kind of see what he'll say, because he'll be very unfiltered. 155 00:07:06,064 --> 00:07:09,064 Speaker 2: Well, and that's I think probably the key part to 156 00:07:09,144 --> 00:07:12,624 Speaker 2: this is his response was it wasn't a joint press 157 00:07:12,664 --> 00:07:15,864 Speaker 2: release with Challenging, It was him having a bit of 158 00:07:15,864 --> 00:07:16,744 Speaker 2: a dig at than one. 159 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:17,344 Speaker 1: Yeah. 160 00:07:17,384 --> 00:07:19,344 Speaker 2: Also, I love that he put in all of those 161 00:07:19,344 --> 00:07:22,704 Speaker 2: little puns, and like Jakes, he kind of tied it 162 00:07:22,744 --> 00:07:24,664 Speaker 2: back to Survivor. You can tell he's been living and 163 00:07:24,704 --> 00:07:28,144 Speaker 2: breathing this for so absolutely. I kind of respect him 164 00:07:28,184 --> 00:07:30,544 Speaker 2: a lot for just saying how he felt. Oh I 165 00:07:30,544 --> 00:07:32,344 Speaker 2: do too, and being like, you know what, this came 166 00:07:32,344 --> 00:07:35,304 Speaker 2: out of left field. This is not what I wanted, but. 167 00:07:35,704 --> 00:07:38,264 Speaker 1: There is what's happened. Yeah, well, stay in tuned for 168 00:07:38,304 --> 00:07:40,824 Speaker 1: the new host announcement. I wonder for how they feel 169 00:07:40,824 --> 00:07:42,944 Speaker 1: if they already know who they are, seeing that post 170 00:07:42,984 --> 00:07:45,584 Speaker 1: go up and knowing that their announcement will be have 171 00:07:45,624 --> 00:07:46,584 Speaker 1: a lot of drama around it. 172 00:07:46,744 --> 00:07:49,064 Speaker 2: Whoever it is is going to have some big shoes 173 00:07:49,104 --> 00:07:49,464 Speaker 2: to fill. 174 00:07:51,424 --> 00:07:53,864 Speaker 1: So over the weekend, if you have any sort of 175 00:07:54,024 --> 00:07:58,344 Speaker 1: online social media account, your feeds would have been absolutely flooded. 176 00:07:58,504 --> 00:08:02,104 Speaker 2: No, I know you could not look anywhere without seeing 177 00:08:02,144 --> 00:08:04,984 Speaker 2: the news of Jeff Baboss and Lauren Sanchez's waiting. 178 00:08:05,104 --> 00:08:08,064 Speaker 1: Yes, it was absolutely everywhere. You couldn't escape it. So 179 00:08:08,184 --> 00:08:12,024 Speaker 1: the Amazon billionaire and the former journalists, right, so you know, 180 00:08:12,144 --> 00:08:14,104 Speaker 1: quote for us. Yet I'm holding out that I'm going 181 00:08:14,184 --> 00:08:15,664 Speaker 1: to get a billionaire wedding in a few years and 182 00:08:15,704 --> 00:08:18,184 Speaker 1: that's just going to sort my life out. Had their 183 00:08:18,584 --> 00:08:21,824 Speaker 1: fifty million dollar wedding is the estimated amount in Venice 184 00:08:21,864 --> 00:08:24,504 Speaker 1: in Italy. So I know that you guys last week 185 00:08:24,544 --> 00:08:26,304 Speaker 1: covered a lot of like who they are and the 186 00:08:26,464 --> 00:08:28,304 Speaker 1: lead up to it and all that sort of stuff. 187 00:08:28,344 --> 00:08:30,184 Speaker 1: But what we need to talk about is all the 188 00:08:30,184 --> 00:08:33,704 Speaker 1: celebrity guests that descended on the city of Venice, and 189 00:08:33,744 --> 00:08:36,304 Speaker 1: apparently they all gave donations to the city to kind 190 00:08:36,304 --> 00:08:38,904 Speaker 1: of smooth it over. But the locals were not happy 191 00:08:38,944 --> 00:08:42,184 Speaker 1: about the circus obviously, like the infrastructure in Venice and 192 00:08:42,224 --> 00:08:44,784 Speaker 1: also the amount of over tourism. At the moment, it's 193 00:08:44,824 --> 00:08:46,704 Speaker 1: already a bit of a dicey area. People were even 194 00:08:46,744 --> 00:08:49,704 Speaker 1: putting up signs and like dummies dressed as Jeff Bezos 195 00:08:49,784 --> 00:08:52,344 Speaker 1: through the streets like they wanted the celebs gone, but 196 00:08:52,424 --> 00:08:55,064 Speaker 1: they would not be deterred. So we had a whole 197 00:08:55,064 --> 00:08:57,544 Speaker 1: bunch of celebrities. And because you have to get on 198 00:08:57,584 --> 00:09:00,064 Speaker 1: and off the boats to travel everywhere, which I think 199 00:09:00,064 --> 00:09:01,664 Speaker 1: they all liked. Because they all had their outfits and 200 00:09:01,664 --> 00:09:03,664 Speaker 1: everything ready for the pap shots. There was no way 201 00:09:03,664 --> 00:09:06,384 Speaker 1: for anyone to really slip out of hotels into waiting 202 00:09:06,424 --> 00:09:08,624 Speaker 1: cars or anything like that. It was all very public. 203 00:09:09,144 --> 00:09:11,384 Speaker 1: So is there a celebrities and you wanted to start with? 204 00:09:11,504 --> 00:09:13,904 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a few that I really really want to 205 00:09:13,944 --> 00:09:18,944 Speaker 2: talk about. My favorite was Leonardo DiCaprio wearing a baseball 206 00:09:18,944 --> 00:09:23,344 Speaker 2: cap with his tucks. Yeah, he is very well known 207 00:09:23,384 --> 00:09:26,304 Speaker 2: for wearing baseball caps everywhere to hide from the paps. 208 00:09:26,824 --> 00:09:30,384 Speaker 2: But it makes me laugh because he's wearing a full tux, 209 00:09:30,704 --> 00:09:33,304 Speaker 2: like very black tie. But then the hat is like 210 00:09:33,344 --> 00:09:37,144 Speaker 2: a black tie hat, yeah, which I kind of appreciate. 211 00:09:37,224 --> 00:09:38,904 Speaker 1: I think he has them custom me. You right, he 212 00:09:38,904 --> 00:09:41,384 Speaker 1: wears them to everything. My biggest memory of his fiftieth 213 00:09:41,384 --> 00:09:44,744 Speaker 1: birthday party that was so studded is him like slinking 214 00:09:44,824 --> 00:09:47,304 Speaker 1: inside with his head down with a cap pulled so 215 00:09:47,584 --> 00:09:49,824 Speaker 1: far down over his face. You only see his little 216 00:09:49,904 --> 00:09:51,544 Speaker 1: chin poking out, and I was like, Leo, we know 217 00:09:51,664 --> 00:09:53,424 Speaker 1: it's you. The cap actually makes it worse. 218 00:09:53,584 --> 00:09:56,904 Speaker 2: It's kind of his thing now. I have seen him 219 00:09:56,904 --> 00:10:00,424 Speaker 2: at nightclubs and stuff before, and he's always wearing a 220 00:10:00,424 --> 00:10:03,144 Speaker 2: baseball cap always, and I think it must be like 221 00:10:03,144 --> 00:10:04,624 Speaker 2: a security blanket for him. 222 00:10:05,024 --> 00:10:08,504 Speaker 1: I think it's for so long and he's you got 223 00:10:08,544 --> 00:10:11,064 Speaker 1: to think he's still one of those like actors. For 224 00:10:11,144 --> 00:10:13,384 Speaker 1: someone who's like, I'm here for the work, not the fame, 225 00:10:13,624 --> 00:10:15,904 Speaker 1: I'm like, so you spend all your time hanging out 226 00:10:15,904 --> 00:10:19,984 Speaker 1: with billionaires at fancy parties, at nightclubs, on yodels. Yeah, 227 00:10:20,064 --> 00:10:22,104 Speaker 1: with models, so don't say that you were just here 228 00:10:22,104 --> 00:10:22,624 Speaker 1: for the art. 229 00:10:22,784 --> 00:10:26,144 Speaker 2: He was there with his girlfriend, Vittoria Serretti, and she's 230 00:10:26,224 --> 00:10:29,024 Speaker 2: a slightly more age appropriate a twenty seven than he's 231 00:10:29,144 --> 00:10:32,464 Speaker 2: normally under twenty five, so I guess he has started 232 00:10:32,504 --> 00:10:35,064 Speaker 2: to up his age limit, which is kind of nice 233 00:10:35,064 --> 00:10:35,944 Speaker 2: to see. I guess. 234 00:10:36,184 --> 00:10:36,424 Speaker 4: Yeah. 235 00:10:36,464 --> 00:10:37,864 Speaker 1: I mean, that's so big of him to stay with 236 00:10:37,904 --> 00:10:40,464 Speaker 1: her past twenty five. I think he did hate all 237 00:10:40,504 --> 00:10:43,784 Speaker 1: the commentary and the jokes and the graphs that people 238 00:10:43,784 --> 00:10:46,904 Speaker 1: were making about dumping his girlfriends after twenty five so 239 00:10:46,944 --> 00:10:49,784 Speaker 1: maybe that's worked out in Vittoria's favor. She was also 240 00:10:49,824 --> 00:10:52,264 Speaker 1: getting a lot of attention because she posted before and 241 00:10:52,344 --> 00:10:55,464 Speaker 1: after photos of this beautiful gown that she was wearing, 242 00:10:55,504 --> 00:10:58,064 Speaker 1: and she'd had a wardrobe malfunction sometime during the night 243 00:10:58,104 --> 00:11:00,144 Speaker 1: and it had ripped, and you think getting in and 244 00:11:00,144 --> 00:11:03,024 Speaker 1: out of those boats to go down the canals and surprise, 245 00:11:03,104 --> 00:11:07,304 Speaker 1: more celebrities didn't have their dresses ripped or torn or something. 246 00:11:07,744 --> 00:11:10,224 Speaker 1: But the other thing is that that dress was previous 247 00:11:10,704 --> 00:11:14,144 Speaker 1: worn by Giselle Bunchin, who was with Leonardo DiCaprio for many, 248 00:11:14,144 --> 00:11:16,624 Speaker 1: many years. To the met gala right there, you go, 249 00:11:17,024 --> 00:11:19,704 Speaker 1: oh my god, people are just like dots. 250 00:11:19,824 --> 00:11:22,744 Speaker 2: I can't believe you wouldn't say it, like you know, 251 00:11:22,944 --> 00:11:25,064 Speaker 2: people on the internet, they're going to pick out every 252 00:11:25,104 --> 00:11:28,944 Speaker 2: single detail. Her stylist needs to have done better, beautiful. 253 00:11:28,984 --> 00:11:29,904 Speaker 2: That was a gorgeous tra It. 254 00:11:29,944 --> 00:11:32,184 Speaker 1: Was such a gorgeous trip. I would have to be honest, 255 00:11:32,224 --> 00:11:33,664 Speaker 1: if that was the dress that I looked at the 256 00:11:33,704 --> 00:11:35,984 Speaker 1: best in when all eyes of the world were going 257 00:11:36,064 --> 00:11:37,544 Speaker 1: to be on me at this big wedding, I would 258 00:11:37,544 --> 00:11:39,504 Speaker 1: have just worn it and not worry about the Giselle thing. 259 00:11:39,624 --> 00:11:41,584 Speaker 1: But also she's only twenty seven, Like. 260 00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:43,384 Speaker 2: She doesn't even know who to sell bunchen is. 261 00:11:43,624 --> 00:11:45,824 Speaker 1: Can you imagine I'm sure she well, I'm sure she does. 262 00:11:45,864 --> 00:11:48,184 Speaker 2: Just knowing Selle's vintage. 263 00:11:48,544 --> 00:11:50,704 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she wore it so many years ago 264 00:11:50,704 --> 00:11:52,704 Speaker 1: at the met gala. I'm sure that that didn't even 265 00:11:52,784 --> 00:11:54,904 Speaker 1: kind of factor into her mind. And why would you 266 00:11:54,984 --> 00:11:57,824 Speaker 1: think that people would connect those dots? But that's what 267 00:11:57,864 --> 00:11:59,624 Speaker 1: people do with these kind of solid moments. 268 00:11:59,664 --> 00:12:01,584 Speaker 2: Okay, what was your favorite? One of your favorite? 269 00:12:01,704 --> 00:12:04,384 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a bit of scandal light going on. There 270 00:12:04,424 --> 00:12:07,104 Speaker 1: wasn't as much scandal as we thought obviously inside the party, 271 00:12:07,424 --> 00:12:12,104 Speaker 1: but Orlando Bloom and Sydney Sweeney that the moment, I guess. 272 00:12:12,184 --> 00:12:15,784 Speaker 2: Okay, I've had a crush on Orlando Blume since legless 273 00:12:16,984 --> 00:12:20,184 Speaker 2: elf really so, I had an Orlando Blue mural like 274 00:12:20,384 --> 00:12:23,304 Speaker 2: on my wall that I used to go to, Like 275 00:12:23,464 --> 00:12:25,504 Speaker 2: what's the shop called we used to buy seatings. 276 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:26,744 Speaker 1: I don't know where you used to go, like a 277 00:12:26,744 --> 00:12:29,024 Speaker 1: sanity or something. I used to go on, Like I 278 00:12:29,064 --> 00:12:33,984 Speaker 1: don't know where you're getting your weird legalist fans. 279 00:12:32,544 --> 00:12:35,384 Speaker 2: Flick through in any Orlando Bloom poaster, I would buy it. 280 00:12:35,424 --> 00:12:37,464 Speaker 2: So I had a really big legalist one. I had 281 00:12:37,464 --> 00:12:40,344 Speaker 2: a white one. I had one of him in Pirates Caribbean, 282 00:12:40,384 --> 00:12:40,704 Speaker 2: Like I. 283 00:12:40,744 --> 00:12:42,224 Speaker 1: Was, he's hotter in Pirates. 284 00:12:42,264 --> 00:12:44,624 Speaker 2: I was like Orlando bloom Stand. 285 00:12:44,784 --> 00:12:46,224 Speaker 1: This is how you can really tell what kind of 286 00:12:46,224 --> 00:12:47,904 Speaker 1: person someone is. It's like whether you grew up as 287 00:12:47,904 --> 00:12:53,104 Speaker 1: a legalist girl or an Aragon girl. Aragon the elf 288 00:12:53,344 --> 00:12:55,104 Speaker 1: he looked like, I mean, I'm sure he was lovely. 289 00:12:55,144 --> 00:12:58,384 Speaker 1: He was very brave, but like, I'm not a Aragon 290 00:12:58,464 --> 00:12:59,504 Speaker 1: is the hot rugged one. 291 00:12:59,544 --> 00:13:01,024 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Like we're going to have a lot 292 00:13:01,064 --> 00:13:04,304 Speaker 2: of the rings off here because apparently they're elves. Aragon 293 00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:08,064 Speaker 2: only looks called dirty. Yeah, it's hot all the time. 294 00:13:08,464 --> 00:13:10,264 Speaker 1: And he's a bit too Etherol for me. 295 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:13,224 Speaker 2: He can float away, he can walk on top of 296 00:13:13,264 --> 00:13:13,664 Speaker 2: the snow. 297 00:13:13,904 --> 00:13:15,464 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm looking for a lover. 298 00:13:15,504 --> 00:13:18,304 Speaker 2: I have to say, No, he's and he's like really sexy. 299 00:13:18,304 --> 00:13:20,304 Speaker 2: You that one where he slides off that. 300 00:13:20,184 --> 00:13:22,224 Speaker 1: It's quite hot, But I don't know, he's just he's 301 00:13:22,264 --> 00:13:24,864 Speaker 1: a bit too etheroal and magical for me. He sounds 302 00:13:24,904 --> 00:13:26,504 Speaker 1: like someone want to hang out and like skip through 303 00:13:26,504 --> 00:13:27,064 Speaker 1: the woods with. 304 00:13:27,584 --> 00:13:32,024 Speaker 2: You would rather not have like Hugo Weaving and legaliss. 305 00:13:31,624 --> 00:13:34,104 Speaker 1: No Raicon's the hot one with the sword and the 306 00:13:34,904 --> 00:13:37,344 Speaker 1: fed and druggedness. I mean, I'm sorry, this is a 307 00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:40,184 Speaker 1: lot of the Rings podcast celerities. 308 00:13:40,224 --> 00:13:44,184 Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened to Sorry, back to actually 309 00:13:44,184 --> 00:13:47,664 Speaker 2: and yes, so he was seen walking the streets of 310 00:13:47,784 --> 00:13:50,144 Speaker 2: Venice with Sydney Sweeney and Tom Hardy. 311 00:13:50,624 --> 00:13:53,184 Speaker 1: Yes, so that's the thing that pap pictures don't show you. 312 00:13:53,224 --> 00:13:56,344 Speaker 1: So there were all these rumors that Katie Perry and 313 00:13:56,424 --> 00:14:00,944 Speaker 1: Orlando Room had ended their ten year nearly engagement, and 314 00:14:01,224 --> 00:14:02,864 Speaker 1: people were saying it was to do with the space 315 00:14:02,904 --> 00:14:05,344 Speaker 1: flight and her dancing on stage and that he got 316 00:14:05,344 --> 00:14:07,344 Speaker 1: the ick. And I'm like, guys, they've been together for 317 00:14:07,384 --> 00:14:09,664 Speaker 1: nearly a decade. I'm sure it was more than that. 318 00:14:09,824 --> 00:14:12,544 Speaker 1: Maybe that one of their fights escalated over the space trips, 319 00:14:12,544 --> 00:14:15,784 Speaker 1: the paddle, the photo. Oh yeah, there's so much law 320 00:14:15,784 --> 00:14:17,944 Speaker 1: with this couple. That's I just hope the rumors aren't true, 321 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:19,064 Speaker 1: no offense to you, and I. 322 00:14:18,984 --> 00:14:22,624 Speaker 2: Think they are. He said that like it's a new beginning. 323 00:14:22,904 --> 00:14:25,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did say that. Well, they haven't publicly, at 324 00:14:25,184 --> 00:14:26,984 Speaker 1: least at the time of recording, either of them haven't 325 00:14:26,984 --> 00:14:28,944 Speaker 1: come out and confirmed the split. But it's been confirmed 326 00:14:28,984 --> 00:14:30,944 Speaker 1: by a lot of reputable sources, so we think it 327 00:14:31,024 --> 00:14:33,504 Speaker 1: has happened. But then he was pitching in Australia, so 328 00:14:33,544 --> 00:14:36,784 Speaker 1: people thought, are they back on? But she's also touring 329 00:14:36,784 --> 00:14:40,744 Speaker 1: here and apparently their young daughter, Daisy Dove Bloom, is 330 00:14:40,784 --> 00:14:42,704 Speaker 1: here in Australia, so it makes sense that he would 331 00:14:42,704 --> 00:14:45,824 Speaker 1: fly over and maybe visit them. But then he jetted 332 00:14:45,824 --> 00:14:48,504 Speaker 1: off to the wedding solo, even though he's big environmentalists, 333 00:14:48,544 --> 00:14:53,704 Speaker 1: but apparently ninety four private jets landed. Yeah, so in Venice. 334 00:14:53,344 --> 00:14:55,544 Speaker 2: There was a lot of commentary about that, and also 335 00:14:55,544 --> 00:14:57,184 Speaker 2: with Leonardo DiCaprio. 336 00:14:58,144 --> 00:14:59,864 Speaker 1: Everyone's an environmental Let's. 337 00:14:59,704 --> 00:15:01,784 Speaker 2: Just ignore that for a second and talk about have 338 00:15:01,864 --> 00:15:03,544 Speaker 2: you seen the Pat photos. I know that we can't 339 00:15:03,544 --> 00:15:04,784 Speaker 2: really show the Pat photos. 340 00:15:04,504 --> 00:15:05,824 Speaker 1: On here, but we'll describe them to you. 341 00:15:05,864 --> 00:15:08,584 Speaker 2: He's okay, he's wearing the shortest shots I've ever seen 342 00:15:08,584 --> 00:15:12,264 Speaker 2: in my life, and he's got these beautiful quads they're 343 00:15:12,344 --> 00:15:16,824 Speaker 2: bulging out of his shorts. Okay, and he looks so hot. 344 00:15:17,304 --> 00:15:20,144 Speaker 2: And then Sydney Sweeney's wearing this beautiful floral gown and 345 00:15:20,184 --> 00:15:22,904 Speaker 2: she's got the best boobs in the business. Comes quite 346 00:15:22,944 --> 00:15:26,304 Speaker 2: frankly if I have to say anyone whose boobs are better, 347 00:15:26,584 --> 00:15:30,264 Speaker 2: there are no boobs better than See she's got great boobs. Anyway, 348 00:15:30,304 --> 00:15:35,744 Speaker 2: She's throwing this beautiful, flowy, very summary Italian riviera kind 349 00:15:35,744 --> 00:15:39,144 Speaker 2: of dress, and they're walking together. But if you look 350 00:15:39,144 --> 00:15:42,704 Speaker 2: at the shop, some people are kind of speculating them together. 351 00:15:42,824 --> 00:15:44,904 Speaker 2: But then in a wide shot, Tom Brady's there as well, 352 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:46,704 Speaker 2: and there's like another person, So maybe they are just 353 00:15:46,784 --> 00:15:48,824 Speaker 2: met up at the wedding and we're like, we're gonna 354 00:15:48,864 --> 00:15:50,584 Speaker 2: go sightseeing together. 355 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:50,984 Speaker 4: Yeah. 356 00:15:51,024 --> 00:15:52,504 Speaker 1: That's the thing with these shots is like, if you 357 00:15:52,544 --> 00:15:54,384 Speaker 1: look at the close up shots, it's like when everyone 358 00:15:54,384 --> 00:15:57,344 Speaker 1: thought Jennifer Aniston and Pedro Pascal were having this intimate 359 00:15:57,344 --> 00:15:59,864 Speaker 1: dinner together because it looked like they were hugging alone 360 00:15:59,904 --> 00:16:01,864 Speaker 1: in a restaurant. But when you look at the wide shot, 361 00:16:02,144 --> 00:16:04,504 Speaker 1: there's about fifteen other people of their friends at the table. 362 00:16:04,864 --> 00:16:08,184 Speaker 1: So it did look like Orlando had left his fiance 363 00:16:08,424 --> 00:16:10,984 Speaker 1: of ten years and his daughter flowing too n and 364 00:16:11,064 --> 00:16:14,104 Speaker 1: immediately hooked up with Sydney Sweeney. But I don't believe 365 00:16:14,144 --> 00:16:16,624 Speaker 1: that is the case. But it's also like it's Jeff 366 00:16:16,664 --> 00:16:19,184 Speaker 1: Bezels just friends with all of these celebrities. I think 367 00:16:19,224 --> 00:16:20,624 Speaker 1: it sounds like they sent out like a bit of 368 00:16:20,704 --> 00:16:23,744 Speaker 1: a cattle call through all the big Hollywood talent agencies 369 00:16:24,144 --> 00:16:26,824 Speaker 1: and just got as many celebs as they could. I know, 370 00:16:26,904 --> 00:16:29,064 Speaker 1: some of the celebs are their actual friends they've been 371 00:16:29,064 --> 00:16:31,384 Speaker 1: pictured with, Like Lauren has been friends with the Kardashians 372 00:16:31,384 --> 00:16:34,344 Speaker 1: for a really long time, so that checked out. But 373 00:16:34,504 --> 00:16:36,784 Speaker 1: someone like Sydney Sweeney, I was like, this young girl 374 00:16:36,784 --> 00:16:39,304 Speaker 1: in her twenties from Texas. I think she is like, 375 00:16:39,304 --> 00:16:40,984 Speaker 1: I know, she's been a big star in the industry 376 00:16:41,024 --> 00:16:43,144 Speaker 1: for a really long time, but how is she becoming 377 00:16:43,184 --> 00:16:44,784 Speaker 1: friends with Jeff and Lauren? 378 00:16:45,024 --> 00:16:46,864 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, she looked beautiful in the 379 00:16:47,064 --> 00:16:48,344 Speaker 2: on the way to the wedding. She just bring this 380 00:16:48,384 --> 00:16:52,344 Speaker 2: beautiful pink strapless gown. She looked every bit the celebrity, 381 00:16:52,504 --> 00:16:55,984 Speaker 2: like absolutely stunning. It's kind of almost become a little bit. 382 00:16:56,144 --> 00:16:58,824 Speaker 2: It feels a bit like canned to me. Yeah, this wedding, 383 00:16:58,864 --> 00:17:00,864 Speaker 2: it was very can coded, yes. 384 00:17:00,664 --> 00:17:03,104 Speaker 1: Because there were so many big events, and every event 385 00:17:03,224 --> 00:17:05,504 Speaker 1: had this huge theme to it, so it was about 386 00:17:05,504 --> 00:17:07,064 Speaker 1: I think a lot of them just went to be 387 00:17:07,104 --> 00:17:08,624 Speaker 1: part of I mean, if you got invited to a 388 00:17:08,624 --> 00:17:11,344 Speaker 1: fifty million dollar wedding. I have to say, would one 389 00:17:11,384 --> 00:17:13,504 Speaker 1: hundred percent go just to see it and experience it, 390 00:17:13,544 --> 00:17:16,104 Speaker 1: to see the phone party on that yacht that they had, 391 00:17:16,104 --> 00:17:18,424 Speaker 1: and to see like the pajama party they had afterwards, 392 00:17:18,424 --> 00:17:20,304 Speaker 1: and all these kind of crazy things. But I think 393 00:17:20,344 --> 00:17:21,864 Speaker 1: for a lot of them it was about, yeah, the 394 00:17:21,944 --> 00:17:24,304 Speaker 1: media attention, the looks, and I think a lot of 395 00:17:24,304 --> 00:17:27,504 Speaker 1: them had almost paid their stylists to pull as many 396 00:17:27,544 --> 00:17:29,584 Speaker 1: looks as they you're right for can or like for 397 00:17:29,824 --> 00:17:32,024 Speaker 1: the Metgala, like pre parties and after parties in the 398 00:17:32,064 --> 00:17:34,784 Speaker 1: red carpet, like it had that vibe of like pulling 399 00:17:34,784 --> 00:17:37,384 Speaker 1: this whole kind of cature looks and vintage looks and 400 00:17:37,384 --> 00:17:38,904 Speaker 1: all these sorts of things for the wedding. 401 00:17:39,264 --> 00:17:41,544 Speaker 2: So another one of my favorite moments. It's not a 402 00:17:41,624 --> 00:17:45,544 Speaker 2: celebrity moment specifically, but now I can't stop thinking about it. 403 00:17:45,624 --> 00:17:46,344 Speaker 1: Yeah. 404 00:17:46,424 --> 00:17:50,224 Speaker 2: Now, one of the officially released photos from Lauren and 405 00:17:50,304 --> 00:17:53,024 Speaker 2: Jeff's wedding, there's only a couple of officially released photos 406 00:17:53,064 --> 00:17:57,264 Speaker 2: from Vogue Ye is the photo of Lauren and Jeff 407 00:17:58,024 --> 00:18:01,144 Speaker 2: just after I'm assuming just after they got married, walking 408 00:18:01,184 --> 00:18:04,144 Speaker 2: back down the aisle, and you know, there's people clapping 409 00:18:04,144 --> 00:18:07,704 Speaker 2: behind them. She's seen in her Dol Jacoban address. He's smiling, 410 00:18:07,744 --> 00:18:11,264 Speaker 2: big smiles. I've seen the photo of times. I didn't 411 00:18:11,264 --> 00:18:14,144 Speaker 2: really think anything of it. Then I was scrolling through 412 00:18:14,184 --> 00:18:18,264 Speaker 2: TikTok and saw someone say, why is nobody talking about 413 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:18,904 Speaker 2: the carpet. 414 00:18:19,384 --> 00:18:20,744 Speaker 1: I did not even look at the carpet. 415 00:18:20,784 --> 00:18:22,944 Speaker 2: I didn't even notice the carpet either, Like, that's not 416 00:18:22,984 --> 00:18:26,424 Speaker 2: what I can't unsee it. It is this horrible great 417 00:18:26,544 --> 00:18:26,984 Speaker 2: look at. 418 00:18:26,864 --> 00:18:30,104 Speaker 1: This, Oh that looks like a tacky airport carpet. It's 419 00:18:30,184 --> 00:18:32,904 Speaker 1: like a really tiny airport where there's like not even 420 00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:33,544 Speaker 1: a food court. 421 00:18:33,704 --> 00:18:36,544 Speaker 2: So fifty million dollar wedding and they have this like 422 00:18:36,824 --> 00:18:41,904 Speaker 2: boardroom gray carpet, And now I can't unsee it because. 423 00:18:41,744 --> 00:18:43,584 Speaker 1: Like in the venue where they got married. 424 00:18:43,304 --> 00:18:45,344 Speaker 2: This is where they got married. Look at these beautiful photos, 425 00:18:45,344 --> 00:18:48,424 Speaker 2: the chairs, and there's this carpet. It looks like you 426 00:18:48,464 --> 00:18:51,064 Speaker 2: know how you get those squares, those square bits of 427 00:18:51,144 --> 00:18:54,184 Speaker 2: carpet that you get the temporary carpet that they put 428 00:18:54,344 --> 00:18:55,664 Speaker 2: on down. 429 00:18:55,784 --> 00:18:57,784 Speaker 1: Like they send this stuff. They didn't get married in 430 00:18:57,824 --> 00:18:59,184 Speaker 1: a venue, right, they got married outside. 431 00:18:59,224 --> 00:19:01,864 Speaker 2: Get married outside, So couldn't they have picked like a 432 00:19:01,944 --> 00:19:05,464 Speaker 2: nice white or like yeah, row someone's or like, we've 433 00:19:05,504 --> 00:19:08,264 Speaker 2: got fifty million dollars here and we're putting down carpet squares. 434 00:19:08,384 --> 00:19:10,264 Speaker 1: This is what happens when people with a huge amount 435 00:19:10,264 --> 00:19:13,304 Speaker 1: of money and no taste a planet event. And I 436 00:19:13,384 --> 00:19:16,264 Speaker 1: also say that as someone who also has no rich 437 00:19:16,304 --> 00:19:18,304 Speaker 1: and fancy taste, he would probably have picked a similar 438 00:19:18,344 --> 00:19:20,464 Speaker 1: carpet because you can kind of see with Lauren, like 439 00:19:20,704 --> 00:19:24,224 Speaker 1: she's doing what we would do if maybe you wouldn't. 440 00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:27,464 Speaker 2: But I don't see everyone is. I don't think it's 441 00:19:27,504 --> 00:19:29,744 Speaker 2: that bad. I don't know why everyone thinks she's so tacky. 442 00:19:29,864 --> 00:19:33,184 Speaker 2: I don't get it. Invitation, No, I didn't say the invitation. 443 00:19:33,304 --> 00:19:36,104 Speaker 1: The invitation is wild. It looks like something that I 444 00:19:36,144 --> 00:19:38,784 Speaker 1: would have made in paint in like grade eight or something. 445 00:19:39,104 --> 00:19:42,904 Speaker 1: It's got like doves and then butterflies and then flowers 446 00:19:42,944 --> 00:19:46,704 Speaker 1: and like a sunny person dree. I'm just saying if 447 00:19:46,704 --> 00:19:48,624 Speaker 1: someone said to me, he's fifty million dollars to plan 448 00:19:48,664 --> 00:19:50,504 Speaker 1: a wedding, and I would lose my mind. But I 449 00:19:50,504 --> 00:19:52,424 Speaker 1: also wouldn't know how to make the details look nice, 450 00:19:52,424 --> 00:19:54,704 Speaker 1: Like I'd have a really tacky wedding invitation that looks 451 00:19:54,704 --> 00:19:56,744 Speaker 1: like someone made it on paint. I wouldn't think about 452 00:19:56,744 --> 00:19:58,904 Speaker 1: the carpet and get a gray carpet. I have a 453 00:19:58,904 --> 00:20:00,904 Speaker 1: phone party on a yacht, because you just don't know. 454 00:20:01,184 --> 00:20:04,744 Speaker 2: But they said the same wedding plans as Emmaala and George. Yeah, 455 00:20:04,904 --> 00:20:07,224 Speaker 2: what is this carpet? I'm so and now I cannot. 456 00:20:07,624 --> 00:20:10,144 Speaker 2: I can't look at this photo anymore without looking at 457 00:20:10,144 --> 00:20:12,744 Speaker 2: this carpet. So guys, please go have a look at it. 458 00:20:12,784 --> 00:20:14,944 Speaker 2: If I have to live with this, and you too, too. 459 00:20:17,024 --> 00:20:19,624 Speaker 1: Right, speaking of some other things that people are calling taki, 460 00:20:19,744 --> 00:20:21,304 Speaker 1: I just want it on the record. I'm not saying 461 00:20:21,304 --> 00:20:23,544 Speaker 1: this is taki because as much as I call them out, 462 00:20:23,584 --> 00:20:25,784 Speaker 1: I do have a soft spot for the Kardashians. And 463 00:20:25,824 --> 00:20:28,424 Speaker 1: they were all out in force. Kim was there, Chloe 464 00:20:28,624 --> 00:20:31,464 Speaker 1: was there, and Kendall and Kylie. Kylie got called out 465 00:20:31,464 --> 00:20:33,944 Speaker 1: because she was wearing I think it was meant to 466 00:20:33,984 --> 00:20:36,864 Speaker 1: be silver, but it photographed white. Oh no, you see 467 00:20:36,864 --> 00:20:39,304 Speaker 1: her gown. This is the Kardashians moment. If anyone's going 468 00:20:39,344 --> 00:20:41,464 Speaker 1: to go full out with their wedding looks, they did so. 469 00:20:41,504 --> 00:20:43,624 Speaker 1: They had, like, you know, the gowns out and the beautiful, 470 00:20:43,664 --> 00:20:46,744 Speaker 1: opulent looks and everything. But I think my favorite Kim 471 00:20:46,784 --> 00:20:48,904 Speaker 1: Kardashian look was the one. Well, it's a bit of 472 00:20:48,904 --> 00:20:51,504 Speaker 1: controversy of where she actually wore this, but the after 473 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:54,864 Speaker 1: party apparently had a pajama themed vibe. I don't think 474 00:20:54,864 --> 00:20:57,904 Speaker 1: anyone actually dressed in like their full pajamas. Everyone was 475 00:20:57,944 --> 00:21:01,664 Speaker 1: going very lingerie inspired. And then Kim Kardashian posted this 476 00:21:01,784 --> 00:21:04,984 Speaker 1: series of photos of her in her Venice hotel room 477 00:21:05,064 --> 00:21:08,064 Speaker 1: and walking through the streets of Venice in this very 478 00:21:08,144 --> 00:21:11,304 Speaker 1: over the top lingerie inspired look designed by the person 479 00:21:11,304 --> 00:21:15,104 Speaker 1: I think who designed Kylie Jenner's slightly viral white silver 480 00:21:15,304 --> 00:21:17,784 Speaker 1: wedding dress. So this designer was getting like a lot 481 00:21:17,824 --> 00:21:20,504 Speaker 1: of a lot of fame through this weekend. And so 482 00:21:21,104 --> 00:21:24,824 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian's got like the knee high stockings on, and 483 00:21:24,824 --> 00:21:27,424 Speaker 1: then she's got almost like a corset and her boobs 484 00:21:27,504 --> 00:21:29,824 Speaker 1: like spilling out of the top looks amazing. And then 485 00:21:29,824 --> 00:21:32,344 Speaker 1: she's almost got like a robe wrapped around her. And 486 00:21:32,384 --> 00:21:35,584 Speaker 1: there's so many photos of her that she's posted in 487 00:21:35,624 --> 00:21:38,704 Speaker 1: this outfit, and it looks like she's going she's like 488 00:21:38,784 --> 00:21:40,544 Speaker 1: dressed up to go to the after party, right, So 489 00:21:40,544 --> 00:21:42,904 Speaker 1: it's totally fine that she's out over the top apparently 490 00:21:42,944 --> 00:21:46,304 Speaker 1: she didn't even go because if you look at the timeline, 491 00:21:46,304 --> 00:21:49,504 Speaker 1: you can track private jets like that. That information is public. 492 00:21:49,984 --> 00:21:53,304 Speaker 1: That's how people. I love so mad. I want to 493 00:21:53,344 --> 00:21:55,664 Speaker 1: think that the same person who tracked her jet is 494 00:21:55,704 --> 00:21:58,384 Speaker 1: the person who matched Victoria's dress to Giselle. 495 00:21:58,664 --> 00:21:58,984 Speaker 2: I love it. 496 00:21:59,024 --> 00:22:00,944 Speaker 1: There's one mastermind in her room somewhere. 497 00:22:01,184 --> 00:22:03,544 Speaker 2: No matter what, there is an Internet sleuth out there 498 00:22:03,584 --> 00:22:05,224 Speaker 2: that will find out exactly. 499 00:22:05,224 --> 00:22:08,264 Speaker 1: This is how people found out that Kylie was properly 500 00:22:08,344 --> 00:22:12,304 Speaker 1: dating Timothy Shallame before anything was public, because they were 501 00:22:12,304 --> 00:22:14,944 Speaker 1: spotted together a few times, like in the background of 502 00:22:14,944 --> 00:22:17,424 Speaker 1: like paparazzi shots, and they were so careful never to 503 00:22:17,464 --> 00:22:20,144 Speaker 1: be seen again. But then if you tracked Kylie's jet, 504 00:22:20,224 --> 00:22:23,144 Speaker 1: every time Timothy chala May had a premiere and different city, 505 00:22:23,184 --> 00:22:25,664 Speaker 1: her jet flew there, so she was like flying around. 506 00:22:25,744 --> 00:22:27,344 Speaker 1: That's how we tracked it anyway. 507 00:22:27,544 --> 00:22:30,624 Speaker 2: So another reason to fly commercial exactly. That's why I 508 00:22:30,664 --> 00:22:33,504 Speaker 2: fly commercially too. It's just so people can't track me. 509 00:22:33,744 --> 00:22:35,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, some people. And I'm going to visit my family 510 00:22:35,424 --> 00:22:37,144 Speaker 1: in Queensland and flying back because that's the in place 511 00:22:37,184 --> 00:22:41,224 Speaker 1: I go anyway. So apparently Kim Kardashian's private jet flew 512 00:22:41,264 --> 00:22:44,224 Speaker 1: out while the party was happening, which means she put 513 00:22:44,264 --> 00:22:48,504 Speaker 1: together this whole crazy lingerie inspired look. She had full 514 00:22:48,504 --> 00:22:50,344 Speaker 1: hair and glam, which would have taken hours and hours 515 00:22:50,344 --> 00:22:52,624 Speaker 1: and hours. She did a full photo shoot in her 516 00:22:52,664 --> 00:22:56,064 Speaker 1: hotel room, then she did a full photo shoot in 517 00:22:56,104 --> 00:22:58,944 Speaker 1: this outfit in the streets of Venice, and then she 518 00:22:58,944 --> 00:23:00,784 Speaker 1: took it all off and got a plane and flew home, 519 00:23:01,144 --> 00:23:03,224 Speaker 1: which I just I don't know, I find like that 520 00:23:03,344 --> 00:23:04,944 Speaker 1: is the whole point of Kim Kardashian. Like I know 521 00:23:04,984 --> 00:23:07,944 Speaker 1: she's an incredible business woman in reality star, but at 522 00:23:07,944 --> 00:23:09,784 Speaker 1: the end of the day, the way she props up 523 00:23:09,824 --> 00:23:12,984 Speaker 1: all of her is through essentially being like almost like 524 00:23:13,024 --> 00:23:15,464 Speaker 1: an influencer and taking photos and that sort of stuff. 525 00:23:15,504 --> 00:23:18,304 Speaker 1: But just to me, like doing the whole dress up 526 00:23:18,344 --> 00:23:20,824 Speaker 1: and then not even going to the party, just that 527 00:23:20,864 --> 00:23:24,584 Speaker 1: feels weird, Like it feels weird from a publicity point 528 00:23:24,584 --> 00:23:24,904 Speaker 1: of view. 529 00:23:24,984 --> 00:23:26,904 Speaker 2: I think for you and I it feels weird for them. 530 00:23:26,984 --> 00:23:29,904 Speaker 2: Nothing surprises me about them anymore, like that scene that 531 00:23:30,064 --> 00:23:33,304 Speaker 2: tracks For me, Yeah, it doesn't feel that weird to me, 532 00:23:33,384 --> 00:23:36,264 Speaker 2: Like we've seen that the Kardashians, you know, get styled 533 00:23:36,344 --> 00:23:38,144 Speaker 2: for walking down the street. 534 00:23:37,904 --> 00:23:41,264 Speaker 1: Like we know that, oh, doing a three hour, five 535 00:23:41,344 --> 00:23:43,624 Speaker 1: hour glam shoot just to take a photo for Instagram. 536 00:23:43,664 --> 00:23:45,784 Speaker 1: When your Kim Kardashi, it makes total sense to me, 537 00:23:46,064 --> 00:23:47,824 Speaker 1: Like when I see her just wanting to take a 538 00:23:47,824 --> 00:23:50,384 Speaker 1: photo in these outfits she has at home, knowing she's 539 00:23:50,384 --> 00:23:52,704 Speaker 1: had six hour glam for the photo, Like, to me, 540 00:23:52,784 --> 00:23:54,424 Speaker 1: that's just normal and fine. I don't care about that. 541 00:23:54,504 --> 00:23:56,744 Speaker 1: I think it's the pretense of going to an event 542 00:23:56,864 --> 00:23:59,344 Speaker 1: that you clearly weren't at. Again, it's like when Kylie 543 00:23:59,424 --> 00:24:01,664 Speaker 1: Jenner got super dressed up and did a full photo 544 00:24:01,664 --> 00:24:04,624 Speaker 1: shoot at home for the premiere of The Kardashians when 545 00:24:04,624 --> 00:24:07,224 Speaker 1: they first moved to Hulu and then clearly didn't go 546 00:24:07,304 --> 00:24:10,224 Speaker 1: to the event. It's just this weird kind of mister 547 00:24:10,544 --> 00:24:13,224 Speaker 1: of like you dressed up, pretended to go, but we 548 00:24:13,304 --> 00:24:13,944 Speaker 1: know you didn't go. 549 00:24:14,144 --> 00:24:16,064 Speaker 2: It would have been quite refreshing to just see her 550 00:24:16,144 --> 00:24:20,024 Speaker 2: in like an oversized T shirt and her undies with 551 00:24:20,104 --> 00:24:21,984 Speaker 2: a pair of like ug boots. Aren't because that's what 552 00:24:22,104 --> 00:24:22,624 Speaker 2: I wear. 553 00:24:22,464 --> 00:24:25,264 Speaker 1: To bed, Yeah, exactly, No, any kind of bed themed part. 554 00:24:25,424 --> 00:24:26,584 Speaker 1: We wouldn't be very glam for me. 555 00:24:26,664 --> 00:24:28,824 Speaker 2: It would be quite refreshing. To see that. Don't you 556 00:24:28,824 --> 00:24:30,824 Speaker 2: think you just see them really stripped back for once? 557 00:24:31,064 --> 00:24:33,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, But she was never really gonna, never gonna 558 00:24:33,744 --> 00:24:35,984 Speaker 1: go down that path. So we had a few celebrities 559 00:24:36,024 --> 00:24:38,544 Speaker 1: who were not very happy about the very lavish event. 560 00:24:38,704 --> 00:24:41,464 Speaker 1: So we had Rosio O'Donnell, and just like that, newest 561 00:24:41,504 --> 00:24:44,104 Speaker 1: guest star, If used her turn as a virgin nun 562 00:24:44,184 --> 00:24:46,824 Speaker 1: Great put up a post where she pretty much tore 563 00:24:46,864 --> 00:24:50,864 Speaker 1: apart Jeff Bezos and his fake fembot wife Lauren Sanchez 564 00:24:51,104 --> 00:24:53,784 Speaker 1: for their very over the top wedding. She said it 565 00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:56,104 Speaker 1: was a very kind of gross excessive it all, and 566 00:24:56,144 --> 00:24:58,504 Speaker 1: that it turned her stomach to see it all. And 567 00:24:58,544 --> 00:25:00,424 Speaker 1: then she said something out loud that a lot of 568 00:25:00,464 --> 00:25:02,264 Speaker 1: people have been saying in the comments, but she's the 569 00:25:02,304 --> 00:25:05,424 Speaker 1: first celebrity to say it. She said, is Oprah really 570 00:25:05,464 --> 00:25:08,704 Speaker 1: friends with Jeff Bezos? How is that possible? How could 571 00:25:08,744 --> 00:25:11,904 Speaker 1: that be possible? Oprah was the photographed at all the events. 572 00:25:11,984 --> 00:25:14,304 Speaker 1: Apparently she was the one tearing up the dance floor 573 00:25:14,344 --> 00:25:16,144 Speaker 1: till all hours of the morning, and a lot of 574 00:25:16,184 --> 00:25:18,984 Speaker 1: people in the comments are really upset because they didn't 575 00:25:18,984 --> 00:25:20,704 Speaker 1: think that was her vibe. They thought she would be 576 00:25:20,704 --> 00:25:23,664 Speaker 1: above this. A lot of people who have demonized Jeff 577 00:25:23,704 --> 00:25:26,184 Speaker 1: and Lauren for the wedding are also on this kind 578 00:25:26,184 --> 00:25:28,784 Speaker 1: of thing of like Oprah is like for the people, 579 00:25:28,864 --> 00:25:31,184 Speaker 1: and she's a humanitarian. How could she take part in this? 580 00:25:31,784 --> 00:25:34,904 Speaker 2: I think Oprah has been around for so long she 581 00:25:35,064 --> 00:25:40,144 Speaker 2: is not a regular Yes, I thought too, Oprah is Oprah. 582 00:25:40,744 --> 00:25:44,144 Speaker 1: She's been a millionaire, a multi multimillionaire, and like running 583 00:25:44,184 --> 00:25:47,144 Speaker 1: with the millionaire billionaire club a lot longer than she's 584 00:25:47,184 --> 00:25:50,104 Speaker 1: been working class. So of course these friends. 585 00:25:50,944 --> 00:25:55,224 Speaker 2: I believe her friendship with Jeff and Lauren more so 586 00:25:55,304 --> 00:25:58,744 Speaker 2: than I believe a friendship between like Leo or even 587 00:25:58,864 --> 00:26:01,744 Speaker 2: Orlando Blue and like that makes a lot more sense 588 00:26:01,784 --> 00:26:05,704 Speaker 2: to me, And maybe that disappoints some people. Yeah, but again, 589 00:26:05,784 --> 00:26:08,544 Speaker 2: she's a media mogul. She has been one of the 590 00:26:08,544 --> 00:26:12,624 Speaker 2: most famous presenters to viewers journalists on TV for since 591 00:26:12,664 --> 00:26:16,264 Speaker 2: the eighties. Yeah, exactly, She's going to be there. I 592 00:26:16,304 --> 00:26:18,304 Speaker 2: think chose is the most makes the most sense. 593 00:26:18,424 --> 00:26:20,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well, the end of the day, people being 594 00:26:20,504 --> 00:26:22,904 Speaker 1: so surprised by these connections. I know, I said I 595 00:26:22,904 --> 00:26:24,584 Speaker 1: was a bit surprised by some of the younger Hollywood 596 00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:26,504 Speaker 1: stars being there. But the end of the day. These 597 00:26:26,504 --> 00:26:29,184 Speaker 1: people all filthy rich, and filthy rich people hang out 598 00:26:29,184 --> 00:26:31,824 Speaker 1: with other filthy rich people because they're all in that world. 599 00:26:31,904 --> 00:26:34,864 Speaker 1: So like of course Oprah's there, these are her people, 600 00:26:34,904 --> 00:26:36,424 Speaker 1: that these are the people who are on her level, 601 00:26:36,504 --> 00:26:38,824 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's surprising that she was kind 602 00:26:38,824 --> 00:26:41,464 Speaker 1: of very front and center. And then Katie kirk they 603 00:26:41,504 --> 00:26:46,824 Speaker 1: very famed journalist and TV presenter, called Lauren Sanchez's dress tacky, 604 00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,184 Speaker 1: and she wrote this under a photo that someone else 605 00:26:50,184 --> 00:26:52,664 Speaker 1: had posted. And then the whole thing's been deleted, but 606 00:26:52,744 --> 00:26:55,784 Speaker 1: the Internet, of course never forgets. So Katie Kuric said, 607 00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:59,224 Speaker 1: underneath the photo of Lauren Sanchez's big like bridal moment, 608 00:26:59,624 --> 00:27:03,824 Speaker 1: welcome to the eighties when big hair and conspicuous consumption ruled. 609 00:27:04,504 --> 00:27:07,064 Speaker 1: And then everyone underneath is also calling the dress tacky. 610 00:27:07,664 --> 00:27:10,224 Speaker 1: And then also Charlie's Theron, who was speaking at event 611 00:27:10,384 --> 00:27:12,664 Speaker 1: in la said, I think we might be the only 612 00:27:12,704 --> 00:27:14,984 Speaker 1: people who did not get an invite to the Basil's wedding. 613 00:27:15,104 --> 00:27:17,544 Speaker 1: But that's okay because they suck and we're cool, which. 614 00:27:17,384 --> 00:27:17,864 Speaker 2: I love that. 615 00:27:17,984 --> 00:27:19,144 Speaker 1: I think is what I would say if I was 616 00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:20,504 Speaker 1: speaking of it that weekend as well. 617 00:27:20,704 --> 00:27:23,864 Speaker 2: I kind of love that. Look, everybody has their own aesthetic, 618 00:27:24,864 --> 00:27:30,384 Speaker 2: and her aesthetic is Beverly Hill's New Money. That's her aesthetic, and. 619 00:27:30,344 --> 00:27:32,464 Speaker 1: That's okay, Yeah exactly. 620 00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:34,904 Speaker 2: I know it sounds like my voice is breaking, but 621 00:27:35,024 --> 00:27:38,384 Speaker 2: I do really feel like it's okay. It's not my style, 622 00:27:38,504 --> 00:27:41,784 Speaker 2: but I mean, she's got the boobs and the face 623 00:27:42,144 --> 00:27:46,584 Speaker 2: and the very tight dresses, and you know it's fine. 624 00:27:46,944 --> 00:27:48,584 Speaker 1: Well, I think why people are sort of having this 625 00:27:48,624 --> 00:27:51,504 Speaker 1: big conversation around Taki not Tacky is obviously because it 626 00:27:51,624 --> 00:27:54,904 Speaker 1: was everywhere, but also the dress was, and the whole 627 00:27:54,944 --> 00:27:57,464 Speaker 1: wedding was featured in a big spread in Vogue on 628 00:27:57,504 --> 00:28:00,504 Speaker 1: a digital cover. But still Vogue did a whole roll 629 00:28:00,544 --> 00:28:02,704 Speaker 1: out around the wedding, and that came at the same 630 00:28:02,784 --> 00:28:05,584 Speaker 1: time as it was confirmed that Anna Wintour would be 631 00:28:05,624 --> 00:28:08,544 Speaker 1: stepping down as editor in chief, and people think they're connected. 632 00:28:08,824 --> 00:28:11,584 Speaker 2: Now I have a little bit to say about this. Now, obviously, 633 00:28:11,584 --> 00:28:13,384 Speaker 2: you guys have seen the news that Anna Winter has 634 00:28:13,424 --> 00:28:17,384 Speaker 2: stepped down from Vogue, and yes, there have been some 635 00:28:17,464 --> 00:28:19,904 Speaker 2: connections to the fact that maybe it was because of 636 00:28:19,944 --> 00:28:22,704 Speaker 2: Lauren Sanchez. I don't think it is. Anna Windle has 637 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,944 Speaker 2: been with Vogue for thirty seven years, it's time for 638 00:28:26,024 --> 00:28:28,824 Speaker 2: her to step down. I really wanted to talk about 639 00:28:28,824 --> 00:28:32,824 Speaker 2: this today because she's such a cultural icon and a 640 00:28:32,864 --> 00:28:37,144 Speaker 2: window is really part of the cultural zeitgeist, and you know, 641 00:28:37,304 --> 00:28:40,264 Speaker 2: the Devil Wears Prita is based on her. We've got 642 00:28:40,344 --> 00:28:43,424 Speaker 2: the September issue, that famous documentary that was about her. 643 00:28:44,024 --> 00:28:47,944 Speaker 2: She is such an icon of fashion, So to see 644 00:28:47,984 --> 00:28:51,944 Speaker 2: her stepping down is like quite a huge moment now 645 00:28:52,784 --> 00:28:55,264 Speaker 2: for all those people who are feeling quite sad and disappointed. 646 00:28:55,504 --> 00:28:59,664 Speaker 2: She's not going for good. She will still be part 647 00:28:59,664 --> 00:29:04,264 Speaker 2: of the Condonast universe. She'll be the editorial director of 648 00:29:04,344 --> 00:29:08,424 Speaker 2: Vogue and chief content officer for Continast, but she's just 649 00:29:08,624 --> 00:29:12,344 Speaker 2: actually not going to be editor chief of Vote Yes Now. 650 00:29:13,184 --> 00:29:15,904 Speaker 2: The interesting thing that she has done is that the 651 00:29:16,024 --> 00:29:20,224 Speaker 2: new editor will not have editor in chief as their title. 652 00:29:21,144 --> 00:29:25,384 Speaker 2: They will have Head of Editorial Content Interesting as their 653 00:29:25,424 --> 00:29:30,064 Speaker 2: new title, which kind of means that Anna Winter will 654 00:29:30,104 --> 00:29:35,504 Speaker 2: be perpetually the editor of Vote Yes Now. I wanted 655 00:29:35,504 --> 00:29:37,624 Speaker 2: to kind of like talk a little bit about like 656 00:29:37,704 --> 00:29:41,504 Speaker 2: how incredible she was when she first came on the scene. 657 00:29:41,544 --> 00:29:44,464 Speaker 2: So she came on the scene in nineteen eighty eight 658 00:29:45,184 --> 00:29:47,744 Speaker 2: and her very first cover, if you see this cover, 659 00:29:47,824 --> 00:29:51,944 Speaker 2: you'll recognize it instantly. So before nineteen eighty eight, all 660 00:29:51,984 --> 00:29:54,624 Speaker 2: of the covers of Folk were very much face. But 661 00:29:54,704 --> 00:29:57,864 Speaker 2: if you look at everything from the seventies sixties, it 662 00:29:57,984 --> 00:30:00,864 Speaker 2: is all about really really tight shots of the face. 663 00:30:00,904 --> 00:30:03,544 Speaker 2: It's really beauty. You don't see anything in the background. 664 00:30:04,064 --> 00:30:08,104 Speaker 2: As soon as Anna Winter comes on board, it's like models, 665 00:30:08,144 --> 00:30:10,864 Speaker 2: it's all about the shots. Even to the point this 666 00:30:10,904 --> 00:30:13,704 Speaker 2: is a really cool story. The very first cover had 667 00:30:13,704 --> 00:30:17,024 Speaker 2: a model, little known model called MICHAELA Burku on the cover, 668 00:30:17,424 --> 00:30:20,744 Speaker 2: and she's wearing a Christian Lacois jumper with like this 669 00:30:20,824 --> 00:30:24,504 Speaker 2: big cross, like a coture jumper and jeans, and apparently 670 00:30:24,584 --> 00:30:27,984 Speaker 2: the printer calls up Vogue and said, are you sure 671 00:30:27,984 --> 00:30:30,264 Speaker 2: that this is the cover because he was so convinced 672 00:30:30,304 --> 00:30:32,824 Speaker 2: that it wasn't going to be a cover image. So 673 00:30:32,864 --> 00:30:34,664 Speaker 2: that was the very first cover she did, which I 674 00:30:34,744 --> 00:30:37,584 Speaker 2: thought was really cool. But you know, she's so iconic 675 00:30:37,704 --> 00:30:40,824 Speaker 2: and that bob she was always wearing the same thing. 676 00:30:40,984 --> 00:30:43,464 Speaker 2: I love her. I know that she's got like a 677 00:30:43,544 --> 00:30:44,664 Speaker 2: really bad. 678 00:30:44,584 --> 00:30:46,464 Speaker 1: She's done some bad things, yeah, in terms of like 679 00:30:46,504 --> 00:30:50,104 Speaker 1: a quality and diversity and allegedly the way she treats stuff. 680 00:30:50,144 --> 00:30:52,464 Speaker 1: But it's all kind of like, yeah, wrapped up in 681 00:30:52,464 --> 00:30:54,464 Speaker 1: this mythol she has she is. 682 00:30:54,704 --> 00:30:57,744 Speaker 2: I love her minthos. I love it. And I think 683 00:30:57,784 --> 00:31:00,344 Speaker 2: it's also because I see like Meryl Streep in her 684 00:31:00,384 --> 00:31:05,264 Speaker 2: now or Meryl Streep and her interchangeable. But she's a dame. 685 00:31:05,344 --> 00:31:07,224 Speaker 2: She's actually damn a winter oh yeah. 686 00:31:07,224 --> 00:31:09,064 Speaker 1: And I mean that's the thing is like she's become 687 00:31:09,184 --> 00:31:11,184 Speaker 1: she's one of the few people who is like very 688 00:31:11,224 --> 00:31:14,224 Speaker 1: recognizable in fashion to like I guess just like the 689 00:31:14,264 --> 00:31:15,864 Speaker 1: plubs of the world. And I put myself in that 690 00:31:15,904 --> 00:31:17,944 Speaker 1: category people who are not sort of up on the 691 00:31:17,944 --> 00:31:20,264 Speaker 1: fashion world. And this kind of mythols of like how 692 00:31:20,264 --> 00:31:22,504 Speaker 1: she dresses, that she never wears black, even though like 693 00:31:22,544 --> 00:31:24,904 Speaker 1: black is very much the color of people working in fashion. 694 00:31:24,944 --> 00:31:27,704 Speaker 1: That she wears those big sunglasses to every event, even 695 00:31:27,704 --> 00:31:30,504 Speaker 1: at nighttime on red carpets, that people are not allowed 696 00:31:30,504 --> 00:31:32,624 Speaker 1: to make direct eye contact with her, and the offices 697 00:31:32,664 --> 00:31:35,144 Speaker 1: of Vogue. That she eats a steak for lunch every 698 00:31:35,224 --> 00:31:38,264 Speaker 1: day and like mashed potatoes and or like a caprize 699 00:31:38,344 --> 00:31:40,384 Speaker 1: salad but without the salad. Like that she has someone 700 00:31:40,384 --> 00:31:42,384 Speaker 1: come to her house every second day to trim her 701 00:31:42,424 --> 00:31:44,744 Speaker 1: bob in her fringe, which dreams that's my life. Gold 702 00:31:44,744 --> 00:31:46,144 Speaker 1: have someone come to my house and trim my friend. 703 00:31:46,264 --> 00:31:49,344 Speaker 1: That's one of my I keep it perfect, this whole thing, 704 00:31:49,544 --> 00:31:51,864 Speaker 1: And so that's kind of interesting, is like people thought 705 00:31:52,104 --> 00:31:55,024 Speaker 1: that the Bezos wedding ended her career at Vogue. What 706 00:31:55,104 --> 00:31:58,384 Speaker 1: they think happened is that because Jeff Bezos offered them 707 00:31:58,424 --> 00:32:01,664 Speaker 1: money that they put Lauren Sanchoz on this digital cover 708 00:32:01,704 --> 00:32:03,544 Speaker 1: and did a big spread and Anna Wintal got so 709 00:32:03,704 --> 00:32:06,464 Speaker 1: upset that she quit. But kind of hearing the background 710 00:32:06,504 --> 00:32:08,344 Speaker 1: that you were saying there about how she's staying in 711 00:32:08,384 --> 00:32:10,864 Speaker 1: the company and what she's doing, shows that she's still 712 00:32:10,904 --> 00:32:13,944 Speaker 1: really pulling the strings there. And also it's like Oprah 713 00:32:13,944 --> 00:32:17,224 Speaker 1: Bankner like as if Anna Wintour wouldn't put Lauren Sanchez 714 00:32:17,384 --> 00:32:19,464 Speaker 1: on the cover, she'd put her on the cover before, 715 00:32:19,504 --> 00:32:21,624 Speaker 1: she'd put a plus sized woman, a wound of color, 716 00:32:21,824 --> 00:32:25,184 Speaker 1: so many other things. And also Anna Wintour, for all 717 00:32:25,264 --> 00:32:28,344 Speaker 1: her like high fashion is also she cares most about 718 00:32:28,384 --> 00:32:31,144 Speaker 1: being on the zeitgeist, Like she put Malania Trump on 719 00:32:31,184 --> 00:32:33,984 Speaker 1: the cover of Vogue when she married Donald Trump because 720 00:32:34,064 --> 00:32:37,024 Speaker 1: they were of the moment, Like she put Kim Kardashian 721 00:32:37,064 --> 00:32:39,184 Speaker 1: and Kanye West on the cover and got so much 722 00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:41,024 Speaker 1: backlash for that, but she was like, this is what 723 00:32:41,064 --> 00:32:42,984 Speaker 1: people are talking about, So I actually think she'd be 724 00:32:42,984 --> 00:32:44,464 Speaker 1: fine with Lauren Sanchez on the cover. 725 00:32:44,624 --> 00:32:47,504 Speaker 2: There was a lot of speculation that she waited a 726 00:32:47,584 --> 00:32:49,944 Speaker 2: very long time to put Kim on the cover. She 727 00:32:50,024 --> 00:32:52,264 Speaker 2: noticed the very first time she put Kim on the cover, 728 00:32:52,344 --> 00:32:53,304 Speaker 2: it was with Kanye. 729 00:32:53,424 --> 00:32:53,584 Speaker 4: Oh. 730 00:32:53,664 --> 00:32:55,944 Speaker 1: Yes, she wanted to buy herself. No, no, no, but I 731 00:32:55,984 --> 00:32:58,384 Speaker 1: think she had that still got a huge amount of backlash, 732 00:32:58,464 --> 00:33:00,544 Speaker 1: but I think that that was the height of them 733 00:33:00,624 --> 00:33:03,704 Speaker 1: like having this very huge public romance and everyone was 734 00:33:03,744 --> 00:33:06,224 Speaker 1: talking about them, and so she was the first one 735 00:33:06,224 --> 00:33:08,344 Speaker 1: to kind of like jump ship and put Kim Kardashi 736 00:33:08,384 --> 00:33:11,424 Speaker 1: in this high fashion spot because she knew that's what 737 00:33:11,464 --> 00:33:14,264 Speaker 1: people were talking about. And a lot of people who 738 00:33:14,264 --> 00:33:17,504 Speaker 1: were insiders at Vogue, like Gabrielle Karifa Johnson, who was 739 00:33:17,744 --> 00:33:19,544 Speaker 1: an editor at Vogue is now like more of a 740 00:33:19,584 --> 00:33:22,504 Speaker 1: freelance fashion stylist and styles like a lot of the 741 00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:25,904 Speaker 1: big red carpet looks for celebrities, among other things, was 742 00:33:26,064 --> 00:33:29,064 Speaker 1: saying on Instagram threads that you can't buy a cover 743 00:33:29,104 --> 00:33:31,424 Speaker 1: of Vogue, and she was explaining and then people were 744 00:33:31,424 --> 00:33:32,744 Speaker 1: coming back at her, and she was like, I know, 745 00:33:32,784 --> 00:33:34,744 Speaker 1: it's a digital cover, and she's like, out of everyone 746 00:33:34,744 --> 00:33:36,544 Speaker 1: in this threat, who's complaining, I mean, the only one 747 00:33:36,584 --> 00:33:38,864 Speaker 1: who's ever worked there. So she was alluding to the 748 00:33:38,864 --> 00:33:41,424 Speaker 1: fact that like things can happen behind the scenes and 749 00:33:41,504 --> 00:33:43,904 Speaker 1: like it's not as clean cut as them just choosing 750 00:33:43,944 --> 00:33:46,624 Speaker 1: the best image. But you can't outright buy a cover, 751 00:33:46,784 --> 00:33:47,584 Speaker 1: is what she was saying. 752 00:33:48,184 --> 00:33:50,584 Speaker 2: I think that that's fair. I mean, Anna Winter still 753 00:33:50,584 --> 00:33:54,464 Speaker 2: has her integrity, and Vogue as to have its integrity 754 00:33:54,464 --> 00:33:57,344 Speaker 2: as well. But you know, she's wearing del Changer Barna, 755 00:33:57,424 --> 00:33:59,184 Speaker 2: She's wearing a talkludul Changer Bana, and. 756 00:33:59,184 --> 00:34:01,264 Speaker 1: Apparently Anna Wintour helped her pick the dress. 757 00:34:01,344 --> 00:34:05,624 Speaker 2: Obviously Lauren and Anna's aesthetics are very very different. 758 00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:08,184 Speaker 1: Oh yes, And it's interesting how much Anna Wintour kind 759 00:34:08,184 --> 00:34:11,024 Speaker 1: of moves celebrities and famous people and people and fashion 760 00:34:11,064 --> 00:34:14,304 Speaker 1: like around like chess pieces. Because everyone saying that she 761 00:34:14,464 --> 00:34:16,864 Speaker 1: picked Lauren Sanchoez's dress and she dressed her up, but 762 00:34:16,944 --> 00:34:20,304 Speaker 1: she also picked the name of Kanye and Kim Kardashian's 763 00:34:20,304 --> 00:34:22,944 Speaker 1: first child, like they were only half thinking about Northwest 764 00:34:22,944 --> 00:34:24,224 Speaker 1: and they're like it's a joke. I'm not going to 765 00:34:24,264 --> 00:34:26,024 Speaker 1: do it. And then they had lunch with Anna Wintour 766 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:28,344 Speaker 1: and she's like, no, you have to name her Northwest, 767 00:34:28,464 --> 00:34:30,944 Speaker 1: so they did. Like what this woman says is gospel 768 00:34:30,984 --> 00:34:31,584 Speaker 1: to these people. 769 00:34:31,984 --> 00:34:35,584 Speaker 2: I think about her being that old money. But even 770 00:34:35,824 --> 00:34:39,784 Speaker 2: if we talk about the transformation of Kim Kardashian from 771 00:34:39,824 --> 00:34:45,864 Speaker 2: being a herblaser bandage dress girl with the pumps and 772 00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:49,144 Speaker 2: the Peepto pumps and like her tacky aesthetic was her 773 00:34:49,144 --> 00:34:52,064 Speaker 2: look for a very long time. Yeah, that transition into 774 00:34:52,104 --> 00:34:56,744 Speaker 2: this high fashion girl that she is today really started 775 00:34:56,784 --> 00:34:57,544 Speaker 2: with the Vogue cover. 776 00:34:57,704 --> 00:34:57,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 777 00:34:59,544 --> 00:35:04,384 Speaker 2: An acceptance from Anna Wintour is an acceptance from everyone 778 00:35:04,424 --> 00:35:05,384 Speaker 2: in the fashion industry. 779 00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:07,344 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think at the end of the day, 780 00:35:07,424 --> 00:35:09,344 Speaker 1: like as much as people said they didn't care about 781 00:35:09,344 --> 00:35:12,024 Speaker 1: this wedding and stuff, has had this huge ripple effect 782 00:35:12,064 --> 00:35:13,944 Speaker 1: through fashion and pop culture, which is why we've had 783 00:35:13,944 --> 00:35:16,304 Speaker 1: to have this huge discussion about it. So I'm hoping 784 00:35:16,304 --> 00:35:18,464 Speaker 1: a bit more drama and scandal comes out of it 785 00:35:18,824 --> 00:35:21,224 Speaker 1: as the days pass. But yeah, overall, like I know, 786 00:35:21,224 --> 00:35:24,824 Speaker 1: it was a gluttonys terrible for the environments celebrity event, 787 00:35:24,984 --> 00:35:27,024 Speaker 1: but everything to do with these people is and we 788 00:35:27,104 --> 00:35:28,584 Speaker 1: still look at it in consume it so. 789 00:35:28,784 --> 00:35:30,984 Speaker 2: And I got to stare at Orlando Bloom's thighs. 790 00:35:31,224 --> 00:35:32,864 Speaker 1: I'm seeing you differently. Now I'm going to say I'm 791 00:35:32,864 --> 00:35:36,464 Speaker 1: seeing you differently and this discussion will continue. 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