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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: From MoMA Me Out. Welcome to this bill, your daily

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Speaker 2: pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm Cassenni Lukicch

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Speaker 2: And coming up later in the show, it's a special

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Speaker 2: time of the week where we talk about all the strange, gory,

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Speaker 2: sometimes very sexy in love details from married at First

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Speaker 2: Site this week or this week was an absolute doozy

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Speaker 2: and things get very heated in this discussion, so stay

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Speaker 2: tuned for that. Plus Hillary duff Our fave girl at

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Speaker 2: the moment, has done another tell all interview, so we

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Speaker 2: have to discuss that. But first, some casting news that

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Speaker 2: has got people very excited this week.

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Speaker 1: Lily Collins has just been cast as Audrey Hepburn in

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Speaker 1: a new film about the making of Breakfast at Tiffany's

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Speaker 1: and people are like a little bit divided on it,

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Speaker 1: but I think it is just the most perfect casting

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Speaker 2: It is quite good casting because she has a lot

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Speaker 2: of physical similar to Audrey Hepburn, and when you play

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Speaker 2: an icon like that, there's gonna be so much scrutiny,

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Speaker 2: Like I remember when Jennifer Love Hewitt did it years ago,

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Speaker 2: just for a TV movie and people absolutely tore her

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Speaker 2: to shread, saying, how dare she think she's Audrey Hepburn,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, she doesn't think she's Audrey Hepburn.

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Speaker 2: She got cast in a movie and she's playing her,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's fine. But yes, Lily Collins put

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Speaker 2: on her Instagram when she announced the news that there

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Speaker 2: had been a ten year build up to this. The

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Speaker 2: other thing is a lot of people like, well, how

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Speaker 2: did she get the role? What was the audition process?

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Speaker 2: Like which other actresses were they? Seeing all this back

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Speaker 2: and forth, They're like, she's been gunning for this for years,

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Speaker 2: but it's her production company making the movie and she's

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Speaker 2: producing it. So she did cast herself, which I think

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Speaker 2: is fine. Like she's making the movie and.

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Speaker 3: So it's like it's like Margo Robbie doing Eitonia.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, so fair, And it's like, you make the movie,

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Speaker 2: you can put yourself in the lead role. So what

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Speaker 2: I find really interesting is it's based on a book

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Speaker 2: that's about the making of Breakfast of Tiffany is the movie,

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Speaker 2: And I'm more interested in that than like whether Lily

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Speaker 2: Collins looks like Audrey Hepburn. The making of that movie,

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Speaker 2: which obviously it's an iconic classic movie, but the making

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Speaker 2: of that movie is absolutely wild because the author of

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Speaker 2: the book, Triuman Compodi, wanted Marilyn Munroe to play Holy

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Speaker 2: Go lightly the lead character, and then the studio cast

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Speaker 2: Audrey Hepburn. He's like, you've double cross me, You've tricked me.

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Speaker 2: So Audrey came into like a really volatile environment. But

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Speaker 2: rain to do one take, and it's like she either

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Speaker 1: I actually love the story about Trim and Coponi Wanning

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Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe because Marilyn Monroe's acting coach actually said he

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Speaker 1: told people, Marilyn Monroe will not play a Lady of

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Speaker 1: the evening. I love a lady of the evening, a

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Speaker 1: Victorian version of Strumpet, you know those versions for Hooker's

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Speaker 1: basically fantastic. The reason I like that line is because

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Speaker 1: I do feel like canonically people think holygo lightly is

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Speaker 1: the epitome of poise, grace, Like she's so often that

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Speaker 1: very iconic photo of that beautiful black dress, the pearls,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wealthy man, wealthy men.

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Speaker 1: But it's so interesting to me that I feel like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess because Audrey Hepburn was those two actresses

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Speaker 2: the one you date, but Audrey is the one you marry.

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Speaker 2: old school New York. But they kind of didn't delve

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Speaker 2: interesting because it's just telling like a portion of Audrey's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have seen before. I mean Audrey's life is

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Speaker 1: Tiffany's is definitely one of her most iconic ones and anyone,

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Speaker 1: even younger kids, would recognize, Yeah that reference, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every girl's had that post on her room at sometime.

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Speaker 2: Once people sort of got over the whole, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Like the conversation, it's so different now. The conversation when

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Speaker 2: But I think once Emily and Paris really took off

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Speaker 2: people forgot that conversation happened because her first kind of

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Speaker 1: You're forgetting one of her most iconic roles. Whatever the

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, of course yes, her voice roll, her dad

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Speaker 2: doing that, her voice rolling, Well, baby didn't get a

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Speaker 2: lot of Oscar bars. I don't think I think.

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Speaker 1: That is that is terrible because that soundtrack by Phil

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Speaker 1: Collins is is the best thing ever, so continue.

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Speaker 2: So she played Sandra Bullock's daughter in The blind Side

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Speaker 2: and she wasn't nominated for that, but obviously that movie

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Speaker 2: Then she went on to do Mirror Mirror, which is

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Speaker 2: I mean, she did Love Rosie in there, which again

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Speaker 2: like she can do that. And then she was cast

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Speaker 2: So when she was cast in that, it's like she

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Speaker 2: this massive blockbuster franchise that ran for seven movies. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she kind of went into a bit

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Speaker 1: of work with Netflix. This is probbously before Emily in Paris,

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Speaker 1: she did did you ever watch Octa?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Octa Octor.

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Speaker 3: That is just one of the weirdest movies I've ever

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Speaker 2: Again wildly critically claim.

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Speaker 3: Was an incredible movie, but it was like.

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Speaker 3: I think about that movie often.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just find it to be one of the strangest,

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Speaker 1: most bizarre movies I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it, high recommended.

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Speaker 2: And it's a great movie. And again it was again

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Speaker 2: it was a very critically acclaimed movie that Netflix made,

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Speaker 2: So Lily Conns did that. Then she did To the Bone,

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Speaker 2: which was that movie about eating disorders, and she and

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Speaker 2: that again a very dramatic role.

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Speaker 3: I have seen that movie.

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Speaker 4: To the bar.

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Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves plays opposite her as a psychiatrist, and she

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Speaker 1: It's anyone who's experienced eating disorders will relate to that

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Speaker 1: character she played. I thought she was excellent in that.

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Speaker 1: She was also in the Ted Bundy movie.

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Speaker 2: With Zach e from I Never get the name of it.

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Speaker 2: It's like a terribly close and.

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Speaker 1: Extremely wicked, suddenly evil and vile. Yeah great, which is

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Speaker 1: what the judge said about Ted Bundy's action. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: but there were like criticisms around that movie because it

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Speaker 2: stuff and everything. Yeah, there were some issues with that,

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Speaker 1: we're having this and she talks a lot about feeling

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00:18:42,914 --> 00:18:47,194
Speaker 1: like will people care, So she's already feeling insecure and

436
00:18:47,234 --> 00:18:50,674
Speaker 1: potentially concerned about the way that this relaunch of her

437
00:18:50,674 --> 00:18:53,874
Speaker 1: career is going to be received, and then just as

438
00:18:53,914 --> 00:18:57,194
Speaker 1: she's doing it, someone makes up what she.

439
00:18:57,234 --> 00:18:58,954
Speaker 3: Says are lies about her.

440
00:18:59,154 --> 00:19:01,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that I think is definitely what she means

441
00:19:01,674 --> 00:19:04,274
Speaker 1: by the used thing. It's like, that's really a low

442
00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:05,234
Speaker 1: that's a low blow.

443
00:19:05,354 --> 00:19:08,034
Speaker 2: Yeah. And when she said too, to have someone write

444
00:19:08,034 --> 00:19:10,593
Speaker 2: something that isn't true, I thought was a really interesting

445
00:19:10,674 --> 00:19:13,793
Speaker 2: choice of words too, because there's other difficult parts in

446
00:19:13,794 --> 00:19:16,234
Speaker 2: this interview and on her press too, when she's talking

447
00:19:16,274 --> 00:19:19,394
Speaker 2: about like she's talking about her divorce and her being

448
00:19:19,394 --> 00:19:22,154
Speaker 2: a strange from her family, particularly her sister Haley, and

449
00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:24,914
Speaker 2: when she talks about anyone else, she says, you know,

450
00:19:25,194 --> 00:19:28,194
Speaker 2: it takes two people to create a conflict. We've all

451
00:19:28,234 --> 00:19:30,394
Speaker 2: done things on both sides. I've tried to do this,

452
00:19:30,514 --> 00:19:32,434
Speaker 2: but like you know, I've failed in some ways. Like

453
00:19:32,474 --> 00:19:34,793
Speaker 2: she takes every time she talks about other people that

454
00:19:34,834 --> 00:19:37,514
Speaker 2: she's had a difficult time with a breakup with an

455
00:19:37,634 --> 00:19:41,154
Speaker 2: estrangement with she really phrases it as if like I

456
00:19:41,234 --> 00:19:43,154
Speaker 2: know that I did something too, and I want to

457
00:19:43,154 --> 00:19:45,754
Speaker 2: fix it. But with this she just says, to read

458
00:19:45,794 --> 00:19:49,074
Speaker 2: something that completely wasn't true and damaged other women. And

459
00:19:49,114 --> 00:19:50,954
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, she's not leaning it at all

460
00:19:50,994 --> 00:19:54,594
Speaker 2: with Ashley Tisdale, Like she's not giving her any kind

461
00:19:54,634 --> 00:19:57,194
Speaker 2: of grace of like I did this, or like maybe

462
00:19:57,234 --> 00:20:00,314
Speaker 2: she felt misunderstood or I feel sorry that she felt

463
00:20:00,354 --> 00:20:02,674
Speaker 2: that way. She was like she used me and she's

464
00:20:02,714 --> 00:20:05,674
Speaker 2: a liar. Yeah, and that was like reading between the lines.

465
00:20:05,714 --> 00:20:07,034
Speaker 2: But I was like, that is a bold state.

466
00:20:07,234 --> 00:20:09,434
Speaker 1: There is a lot of reading between lines about it,

467
00:20:09,474 --> 00:20:11,273
Speaker 1: and I think she's she's very clever, but she knows

468
00:20:11,314 --> 00:20:14,553
Speaker 1: what she's doing. But Alex then asks her about her husband,

469
00:20:14,594 --> 00:20:16,834
Speaker 1: Matthew Kohmer and the posts that he made.

470
00:20:16,994 --> 00:20:18,793
Speaker 3: She said she didn't know he was going to do it.

471
00:20:18,914 --> 00:20:21,914
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she says, honestly, everything he does makes me laugh.

472
00:20:22,114 --> 00:20:24,274
Speaker 1: Great first sentence. So I was like, oh my god,

473
00:20:24,314 --> 00:20:26,513
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But I also don't censor him and

474
00:20:26,554 --> 00:20:28,434
Speaker 1: I don't tell him what he can and can't post.

475
00:20:28,474 --> 00:20:31,114
Speaker 1: He's so like fierce for me, and like I love

476
00:20:31,194 --> 00:20:35,033
Speaker 1: him for that. Honestly, everything he does makes me laugh.

477
00:20:35,394 --> 00:20:37,994
Speaker 1: That is permission for him to do Oh yeah, I

478
00:20:38,034 --> 00:20:38,474
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

479
00:20:38,554 --> 00:20:40,194
Speaker 3: She's like, I didn't know he was going to do it,

480
00:20:40,194 --> 00:20:41,114
Speaker 3: but I love him.

481
00:20:41,154 --> 00:20:43,793
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's talking about that he did it, yeah, exactly.

482
00:20:43,874 --> 00:20:46,234
Speaker 2: And so she's talking about Matthew Cromer putting his head

483
00:20:46,234 --> 00:20:49,434
Speaker 2: on Ashley Tisdell's body and like basically putting out a

484
00:20:49,434 --> 00:20:51,994
Speaker 2: fake cover of the cart saying that Ashley tismull is

485
00:20:51,994 --> 00:20:56,474
Speaker 2: the most immature person he's ever met. And when that happened,

486
00:20:56,474 --> 00:20:58,553
Speaker 2: this big conversation blew up and we talked about here

487
00:20:58,594 --> 00:21:00,834
Speaker 2: on the spill, whereas like is it appropriate for the

488
00:21:00,914 --> 00:21:03,754
Speaker 2: husband and boyfriends to get involved and like two women

489
00:21:03,874 --> 00:21:06,154
Speaker 2: having a fight, and so many people were like, oh,

490
00:21:06,394 --> 00:21:08,273
Speaker 2: I hate him for this. I got the eic I

491
00:21:08,274 --> 00:21:10,114
Speaker 2: would hate my husband to do that, And I was like,

492
00:21:10,194 --> 00:21:12,594
Speaker 2: it all comes down to the relationship. And I bet

493
00:21:12,634 --> 00:21:14,994
Speaker 2: Hillary Duff loved it. And right there you can tell

494
00:21:15,034 --> 00:21:17,394
Speaker 2: she loved it. She loved it. She loved that he

495
00:21:17,394 --> 00:21:19,513
Speaker 2: did it, she loved that it was funny, she loved

496
00:21:19,514 --> 00:21:21,594
Speaker 2: that he went to bat for her, she loved that

497
00:21:21,634 --> 00:21:24,154
Speaker 2: he did it publicly. Like she's she was all it

498
00:21:24,274 --> 00:21:24,954
Speaker 2: on that post and.

499
00:21:25,034 --> 00:21:28,394
Speaker 1: She's she's also not sending her husband into attack a woman,

500
00:21:28,434 --> 00:21:29,754
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I think that's where

501
00:21:29,754 --> 00:21:32,394
Speaker 1: some people find it, like, oh, don't bring a man

502
00:21:32,434 --> 00:21:36,273
Speaker 1: into this. Yeah, but men should be supporting their wife. Ya,

503
00:21:36,754 --> 00:21:39,313
Speaker 1: that's your partners, defend them. Yeah, And I mean we

504
00:21:39,354 --> 00:21:40,914
Speaker 1: could talk about that with maps I know you guys

505
00:21:40,954 --> 00:21:41,674
Speaker 1: are going to talk.

506
00:21:41,514 --> 00:21:44,714
Speaker 2: About all that. Is it. Like, I'm not saying that

507
00:21:44,794 --> 00:21:46,754
Speaker 2: I would personally like that, or I'm not even saying

508
00:21:46,794 --> 00:21:48,114
Speaker 2: like I think that was the right thing for him

509
00:21:48,154 --> 00:21:49,874
Speaker 2: to do. I'm just saying like, when he was looking

510
00:21:49,914 --> 00:21:52,114
Speaker 2: at the target audience and just his wife, yeah, he

511
00:21:52,154 --> 00:21:54,273
Speaker 2: was like, she'll love this, and she did. She did,

512
00:21:54,314 --> 00:21:56,394
Speaker 2: she loved it. She has siness of it. It was great.

513
00:21:56,514 --> 00:21:58,513
Speaker 2: But you can really hear the tone shift after that

514
00:21:58,554 --> 00:22:00,954
Speaker 2: because she's answering the questions, but she's being much more

515
00:22:00,994 --> 00:22:01,634
Speaker 2: kind of clipped in.

516
00:22:01,634 --> 00:22:03,634
Speaker 3: Her speaking and reserved, cautious.

517
00:22:03,914 --> 00:22:05,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it kind of like there's like a

518
00:22:05,754 --> 00:22:08,033
Speaker 2: moment of silence and I'm sure really edited down so

519
00:22:08,034 --> 00:22:10,674
Speaker 2: we don't even know what happened. And then Alex is like, Okay,

520
00:22:10,674 --> 00:22:12,754
Speaker 2: we're moving on. We're moving on. We're moving on. And

521
00:22:12,874 --> 00:22:14,634
Speaker 2: so I can think like they was, they were very

522
00:22:14,754 --> 00:22:17,594
Speaker 2: chatty and things got a bit tense, and then Alex

523
00:22:17,674 --> 00:22:19,994
Speaker 2: Cooper did that thing at the end of the interview

524
00:22:20,194 --> 00:22:22,474
Speaker 2: that I myself have done many times before, whereas like

525
00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:24,354
Speaker 2: you've had a bit of a rocky part of the

526
00:22:24,394 --> 00:22:27,314
Speaker 2: interview and you feel like you've maybe not upset your guests,

527
00:22:27,314 --> 00:22:30,714
Speaker 2: but there's a tension there. So then you overcorrected the

528
00:22:30,874 --> 00:22:34,354
Speaker 2: end by being too gushy and too like you're changing

529
00:22:34,354 --> 00:22:36,274
Speaker 2: the world, because she was like she actually was like saying,

530
00:22:36,274 --> 00:22:37,994
Speaker 2: you know, you've changed the world for this, and you've

531
00:22:37,994 --> 00:22:40,114
Speaker 2: done this, and like you're showing women that they can

532
00:22:40,154 --> 00:22:41,994
Speaker 2: do this. And I'm sure she thought that, but it

533
00:22:42,034 --> 00:22:44,114
Speaker 2: felt very much like I just recognized it as something

534
00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:45,194
Speaker 2: I've done before.

535
00:22:45,234 --> 00:22:47,434
Speaker 1: Whereas like you're trying to wing them back.

536
00:22:47,754 --> 00:22:49,313
Speaker 2: Yeah, you Like, I want to end this on a

537
00:22:49,314 --> 00:22:51,354
Speaker 2: good note because I did enjoy talking to you, and

538
00:22:51,394 --> 00:22:53,954
Speaker 2: I can feel like something has shifted that we haven't

539
00:22:53,954 --> 00:22:55,634
Speaker 2: been able to get back to after we had that

540
00:22:55,674 --> 00:22:58,194
Speaker 2: difficult part of the interview. And I'm trying just to

541
00:22:58,314 --> 00:23:00,234
Speaker 2: really like go hard at the end to make you

542
00:23:00,274 --> 00:23:02,674
Speaker 2: feel comfortable. And I'm sure it was fine, like Hillary

543
00:23:02,674 --> 00:23:04,554
Speaker 2: has been asked worse stuff than that, but it did

544
00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:06,874
Speaker 2: change the tone of the interview a lot.

545
00:23:07,434 --> 00:23:09,594
Speaker 1: And I'm sure but given that Alex Couople is such

546
00:23:09,634 --> 00:23:11,674
Speaker 1: a big fan of Hillary Dove and she probably really

547
00:23:11,674 --> 00:23:12,354
Speaker 1: just wanted her.

548
00:23:12,274 --> 00:23:14,674
Speaker 2: To like her. Oh you know, of course I want

549
00:23:15,194 --> 00:23:15,513
Speaker 2: to like me.

550
00:23:15,914 --> 00:23:17,914
Speaker 1: I was in her shoes, I would probably be the

551
00:23:17,914 --> 00:23:19,154
Speaker 1: said like you just a amazic.

552
00:23:19,674 --> 00:23:20,994
Speaker 3: I really love that part.

553
00:23:21,794 --> 00:23:23,954
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was really interesting. So we're continuing kind

554
00:23:23,954 --> 00:23:25,874
Speaker 2: of the reign of Hillary Duff. But I think that's

555
00:23:26,034 --> 00:23:28,074
Speaker 2: it is really the first time she's talked about the

556
00:23:28,114 --> 00:23:30,554
Speaker 2: whole mom. I mean, she's kind of addressed it very lightly,

557
00:23:30,914 --> 00:23:32,793
Speaker 2: but she's never sort of addressed it head on the

558
00:23:32,794 --> 00:23:34,914
Speaker 2: way she has now, and she's never made her stance

559
00:23:34,954 --> 00:23:38,154
Speaker 2: clear until now. So I think that's really interesting. And

560
00:23:38,714 --> 00:23:40,353
Speaker 2: I guess maybe that story is going to peter out

561
00:23:40,394 --> 00:23:42,234
Speaker 2: and die now, but it'll always resurface.

562
00:23:42,794 --> 00:23:45,354
Speaker 1: Look, I know we've had a lot of Hillary content,

563
00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:49,154
Speaker 1: but it is amazing to see her doing well. And

564
00:23:49,314 --> 00:23:51,234
Speaker 1: I love this juicy stuff that momth I was just

565
00:23:51,274 --> 00:23:53,273
Speaker 1: so juicy. I love it all the best Hillers.

566
00:23:53,354 --> 00:23:55,354
Speaker 2: So I'm sure everyone's listening to the Call of Daddy Yte,

567
00:23:55,354 --> 00:23:56,794
Speaker 2: but we'll link in the shoe notes just in case

568
00:23:56,794 --> 00:23:58,313
Speaker 2: because there's so much other stuff that we didn't even

569
00:23:58,314 --> 00:24:00,754
Speaker 2: get to in there. That's a yeah, and it's definitely

570
00:24:00,834 --> 00:24:05,074
Speaker 2: worth listening to. And now it's a special time of

571
00:24:05,114 --> 00:24:08,074
Speaker 2: week where we talk about married at first and everything

572
00:24:08,074 --> 00:24:11,273
Speaker 2: that has unfolded on our screens. Both the good and

573
00:24:11,314 --> 00:24:13,954
Speaker 2: the very very very bad over the last week and

574
00:24:14,074 --> 00:24:16,714
Speaker 2: joining us to dissect it all. Is Tina provis Hi

575
00:24:16,874 --> 00:24:17,914
Speaker 2: happy to be here?

576
00:24:18,154 --> 00:24:18,434
Speaker 5: Are you?

577
00:24:19,434 --> 00:24:20,714
Speaker 2: When we think about some of the things we have

578
00:24:20,794 --> 00:24:21,354
Speaker 2: to talk about.

579
00:24:21,514 --> 00:24:23,114
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been rage baited this week.

580
00:24:23,274 --> 00:24:25,354
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it's actually it's good that you're here because

581
00:24:25,354 --> 00:24:26,874
Speaker 2: I know that you have a lot of big opinions

582
00:24:26,914 --> 00:24:29,554
Speaker 2: and that is what we need here. So what a

583
00:24:29,594 --> 00:24:32,394
Speaker 2: week it's been. We have new couples, we had people leave,

584
00:24:32,834 --> 00:24:36,194
Speaker 2: We had another explosive dinner party to end off this week.

585
00:24:36,514 --> 00:24:38,674
Speaker 2: So going back to where we left off this beautiful

586
00:24:38,714 --> 00:24:41,354
Speaker 2: fairy tale slash nightmare of a show, is.

587
00:24:41,274 --> 00:24:44,154
Speaker 5: That we had two couples leave, Brooke and Chris, and

588
00:24:44,194 --> 00:24:47,274
Speaker 5: then Rebecca and Steve have left the experiment and I'm

589
00:24:47,274 --> 00:24:47,714
Speaker 5: over it.

590
00:24:48,034 --> 00:24:49,154
Speaker 4: I'm happy to see them leave.

591
00:24:49,354 --> 00:24:52,274
Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm happy that Rebecca got out of there

592
00:24:52,274 --> 00:24:55,554
Speaker 2: because that man was not great everyone else involved. That's

593
00:24:55,554 --> 00:24:57,434
Speaker 2: the only thing is we knew Brooke was leaving because

594
00:24:57,474 --> 00:24:59,234
Speaker 2: of all as we said last week, all the tabloid

595
00:24:59,234 --> 00:25:01,513
Speaker 2: stories that have come out. I didn't expect her to

596
00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:03,394
Speaker 2: leave like mid filming.

597
00:25:03,474 --> 00:25:05,754
Speaker 5: No, I didn't expect that either. But just like I'm

598
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:07,114
Speaker 5: not having a bar of this unwalking way.

599
00:25:07,234 --> 00:25:08,554
Speaker 2: But she knows. She's like, can I got to the

600
00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:10,634
Speaker 2: toilet and then she left and then she just didn't

601
00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:12,674
Speaker 2: come back, and I that's fair enough.

602
00:25:13,114 --> 00:25:15,114
Speaker 5: I think she just wanted to come to the dinner party,

603
00:25:15,234 --> 00:25:17,434
Speaker 5: have a yell at everyone, yeah what she needed from it,

604
00:25:17,514 --> 00:25:18,194
Speaker 5: and then bounce.

605
00:25:18,234 --> 00:25:19,954
Speaker 2: And then when she was sitting there having the experts

606
00:25:20,034 --> 00:25:21,674
Speaker 2: yell at her, she's like, I'm not doing that. So

607
00:25:21,994 --> 00:25:23,154
Speaker 2: I feel like we don't even have a lot of

608
00:25:23,154 --> 00:25:25,234
Speaker 2: time to dwell on that, because as soon as that

609
00:25:25,314 --> 00:25:29,034
Speaker 2: moment passed, those couples left, we had three intruder couples

610
00:25:29,074 --> 00:25:31,994
Speaker 2: come in. Let's start with what we think so far

611
00:25:32,274 --> 00:25:34,834
Speaker 2: is the nice couples. Just to kick this segment off

612
00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:38,154
Speaker 2: on a fun note, Chris and Sam Chriss said, I.

613
00:25:38,074 --> 00:25:41,994
Speaker 5: Do so sweet. Their speeches were so aligned as well. Also,

614
00:25:42,154 --> 00:25:43,874
Speaker 5: I feel like Sam is the hottest person in the

615
00:25:43,914 --> 00:25:44,354
Speaker 5: whole show.

616
00:25:44,554 --> 00:25:48,314
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, beautiful man. Actually yeah, I mean, look, I

617
00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:50,114
Speaker 2: think they're both kind of hot, but yes, Sam is

618
00:25:50,154 --> 00:25:50,594
Speaker 2: really hot.

619
00:25:50,674 --> 00:25:51,994
Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing I could do.

620
00:25:52,474 --> 00:25:56,793
Speaker 2: But I wonder if about making us like them more? No,

621
00:25:56,834 --> 00:25:59,514
Speaker 2: because if they were acting like jerks, they would instantly

622
00:25:59,594 --> 00:26:01,554
Speaker 2: I honestly, do think that's a real thing, because there

623
00:26:02,114 --> 00:26:05,553
Speaker 2: is some like just conventionally good looking men on this

624
00:26:05,754 --> 00:26:09,234
Speaker 2: season who, honestly, like the sight of them repulses me

625
00:26:09,394 --> 00:26:11,034
Speaker 2: just because of what's coming out of their mouth.

626
00:26:10,914 --> 00:26:11,914
Speaker 4: They speak, and it's ugly.

627
00:26:12,034 --> 00:26:14,114
Speaker 2: When people say that, it sounds like a cop out, like, oh,

628
00:26:14,154 --> 00:26:17,033
Speaker 2: the personality makes them prettier, But I think it does sometime.

629
00:26:18,034 --> 00:26:20,434
Speaker 2: And I think because we haven't seen any bad behavior

630
00:26:20,474 --> 00:26:23,914
Speaker 2: from these men yet, it's kind of making them more

631
00:26:23,914 --> 00:26:26,154
Speaker 2: attractive to Yes, they sound quite cute together.

632
00:26:26,434 --> 00:26:29,994
Speaker 5: Like the only thing that they're like foreshadowing is obviously

633
00:26:30,114 --> 00:26:33,273
Speaker 5: Chris is expecting to be a father, which is a

634
00:26:33,274 --> 00:26:35,313
Speaker 5: lot for someone who's going on a show married at

635
00:26:35,314 --> 00:26:37,154
Speaker 5: first sight, because now it's family at first sight.

636
00:26:37,354 --> 00:26:39,834
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Well, I did think that was. And the

637
00:26:39,874 --> 00:26:42,314
Speaker 2: thing is, watching them on their honeymoon was the only

638
00:26:42,394 --> 00:26:44,754
Speaker 2: time I actually felt like I was watching a traditional

639
00:26:44,794 --> 00:26:47,194
Speaker 2: rom com or I was watching something where I wasn't

640
00:26:47,274 --> 00:26:49,994
Speaker 2: waiting something terrible to happen. So I loved the reprieve

641
00:26:50,034 --> 00:26:51,994
Speaker 2: from all the drama and the nastiness to see these

642
00:26:51,994 --> 00:26:55,314
Speaker 2: two men together. Yeah exactly, And I was really invested

643
00:26:55,314 --> 00:26:57,394
Speaker 2: in their relationship and then, of course Chris didn't want

644
00:26:57,434 --> 00:27:00,674
Speaker 2: to say in that moment about becoming a father soon,

645
00:27:00,874 --> 00:27:02,594
Speaker 2: and you kind of feel the tension there, but it

646
00:27:02,634 --> 00:27:03,834
Speaker 2: was very understandable.

647
00:27:03,954 --> 00:27:05,594
Speaker 5: I don't know how Sam just let it go though,

648
00:27:05,634 --> 00:27:07,634
Speaker 5: when he's like, I won't I will keep this secret

649
00:27:07,674 --> 00:27:07,874
Speaker 5: for now.

650
00:27:07,914 --> 00:27:10,714
Speaker 4: I'll let you know another time, like tell me oh.

651
00:27:10,714 --> 00:27:12,354
Speaker 2: Well. I think maybe a lot of it just comes

652
00:27:12,394 --> 00:27:14,553
Speaker 2: down to personality and sort of what maybe also what

653
00:27:14,594 --> 00:27:16,594
Speaker 2: the producers are pushing, and I think because they're sort

654
00:27:16,594 --> 00:27:18,834
Speaker 2: of set up as the fairy tale couple, maybe they

655
00:27:18,834 --> 00:27:20,634
Speaker 2: weren't being pushed. And also I feel like there's other

656
00:27:20,634 --> 00:27:22,313
Speaker 2: people on the show who would have like demanded like

657
00:27:22,394 --> 00:27:22,833
Speaker 2: tell me now.

658
00:27:22,874 --> 00:27:24,794
Speaker 4: I'd be like, that'd be me. I'd be lying awake

659
00:27:24,834 --> 00:27:26,554
Speaker 4: with like one I open, like what was he gonna say?

660
00:27:26,634 --> 00:27:29,154
Speaker 2: Oh in the moment, Because I'm such a people pleaser

661
00:27:29,194 --> 00:27:31,194
Speaker 2: when I first meet people, I would be like, no,

662
00:27:31,274 --> 00:27:33,354
Speaker 2: that's fine, but yeah the next day I'd be like, so,

663
00:27:33,394 --> 00:27:35,154
Speaker 2: I can't wait, you need to tell me now. I'll

664
00:27:35,154 --> 00:27:37,874
Speaker 2: bring this up. So I'd be interested to have that unfolds,

665
00:27:37,914 --> 00:27:40,194
Speaker 2: but I think it'll be okay. I'm really rooting for them.

666
00:27:40,234 --> 00:27:41,794
Speaker 2: I wish they went I'm married at first sight because

667
00:27:41,794 --> 00:27:43,514
Speaker 2: they seem really nice and I don't want anything bad

668
00:27:43,514 --> 00:27:46,513
Speaker 2: to happen to them, but maybe it'll be fine. Okay.

669
00:27:46,514 --> 00:27:49,314
Speaker 2: Coming on to our next couple, Juliet and Joel.

670
00:27:49,474 --> 00:27:51,434
Speaker 4: Juliette seems like such a legend.

671
00:27:51,634 --> 00:27:54,474
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems so fun like you just want her

672
00:27:54,514 --> 00:27:55,834
Speaker 5: to like have a happy ending.

673
00:27:56,434 --> 00:27:57,474
Speaker 4: I'm not sure With Joel.

674
00:27:58,074 --> 00:28:02,234
Speaker 2: Joel, I think had one of the most unfortunate introductions

675
00:28:02,714 --> 00:28:05,674
Speaker 2: I've ever seen on a reality show. First of all,

676
00:28:06,234 --> 00:28:07,954
Speaker 2: saying I'm a model, even if that's your job and

677
00:28:07,994 --> 00:28:10,114
Speaker 2: it's a legitimate job, I know, is always just a

678
00:28:10,114 --> 00:28:10,914
Speaker 2: bit of a red flag.

679
00:28:10,994 --> 00:28:13,034
Speaker 4: I think you like, don't bring it up. Yeah, everyone

680
00:28:13,114 --> 00:28:14,154
Speaker 4: in here is probably a model.

681
00:28:14,434 --> 00:28:17,994
Speaker 2: Well exactly, everyone's like a model slash entrepreneur slash something

682
00:28:18,074 --> 00:28:21,714
Speaker 2: like that. So yeah, he had an interesting just as

683
00:28:21,754 --> 00:28:23,434
Speaker 2: soon as the camera got on him, You're like, this

684
00:28:23,514 --> 00:28:25,554
Speaker 2: man is here because he thinks he's going to be

685
00:28:25,594 --> 00:28:26,554
Speaker 2: a superstar.

686
00:28:26,274 --> 00:28:27,033
Speaker 4: Thinks he's funny.

687
00:28:27,034 --> 00:28:29,074
Speaker 5: But also it could just be like his personality, like,

688
00:28:29,114 --> 00:28:31,194
Speaker 5: which is some people just do that on the regular,

689
00:28:31,274 --> 00:28:31,914
Speaker 5: on the day to day.

690
00:28:32,154 --> 00:28:35,793
Speaker 2: Some people haven't over the top unfortunate personality, and I

691
00:28:35,954 --> 00:28:39,474
Speaker 2: really relate to that some people think they're funny, Yeah, exactly.

692
00:28:39,474 --> 00:28:41,354
Speaker 2: Some people are okay behind a microphone, but not in

693
00:28:41,394 --> 00:28:44,874
Speaker 2: the real world. Again, hard relate, that's me. So he

694
00:28:44,914 --> 00:28:48,954
Speaker 2: came in so hot. Yeah, it just felt very It

695
00:28:48,954 --> 00:28:51,194
Speaker 2: felt like it landed wrong because it felt like a

696
00:28:51,234 --> 00:28:53,114
Speaker 2: stand up routine that you know, like you go and

697
00:28:53,114 --> 00:28:55,914
Speaker 2: see stand up comedy, and the ones that hit are

698
00:28:55,954 --> 00:28:57,754
Speaker 2: just not because the jokes are good. They also hit

699
00:28:57,794 --> 00:29:00,634
Speaker 2: because they're delivered in a way that sounds like they're

700
00:29:00,634 --> 00:29:03,554
Speaker 2: not rehearsed, even if they are. Whereas he came in

701
00:29:03,674 --> 00:29:07,674
Speaker 2: sounding very rehearsed, like he had practiced his one line

702
00:29:07,754 --> 00:29:09,634
Speaker 2: is in the mirror and now he was delivering them

703
00:29:09,634 --> 00:29:10,074
Speaker 2: on camera.

704
00:29:10,274 --> 00:29:12,514
Speaker 5: You also have to know your audience, and if your

705
00:29:12,594 --> 00:29:14,674
Speaker 5: audience is just the other maths, brides.

706
00:29:14,434 --> 00:29:16,594
Speaker 4: And grooms, I don't think your jokes are going to land.

707
00:29:16,914 --> 00:29:18,834
Speaker 2: No, no, But I don't think that performance was for

708
00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:20,834
Speaker 2: the brides and grooms or even his wife. I think

709
00:29:20,834 --> 00:29:24,114
Speaker 2: it was fast, Yeah, I think unfortunately.

710
00:29:24,274 --> 00:29:27,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an interesting and interesting direction to go.

711
00:29:27,714 --> 00:29:29,914
Speaker 5: I actually didn't mind it at the wedding, like I

712
00:29:29,914 --> 00:29:32,594
Speaker 5: wouldn't daily, I wouldn't be dating this man. But for

713
00:29:32,674 --> 00:29:35,394
Speaker 5: the purpose of entertainment and being like, oh, he's putting

714
00:29:35,434 --> 00:29:35,914
Speaker 5: on a show.

715
00:29:36,154 --> 00:29:38,674
Speaker 2: I could appreciate when he was doing the fake handshakes

716
00:29:38,674 --> 00:29:40,914
Speaker 2: at the wedding across the two people and like doing

717
00:29:40,954 --> 00:29:43,314
Speaker 2: like those and doing the little dance and the weird

718
00:29:43,394 --> 00:29:45,754
Speaker 2: like shaking his head. You you thought that was fine.

719
00:29:45,954 --> 00:29:46,914
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be into that.

720
00:29:46,954 --> 00:29:47,754
Speaker 2: You thought that was okay for.

721
00:29:49,194 --> 00:29:50,674
Speaker 4: Happy to observe him do that.

722
00:29:50,754 --> 00:29:53,274
Speaker 5: If he wants to do that with his life for

723
00:29:53,434 --> 00:29:55,354
Speaker 5: us to laugh, then he can go ahead.

724
00:29:55,434 --> 00:29:56,754
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want the whole Like I was a

725
00:29:56,794 --> 00:29:58,714
Speaker 2: fat uber driver and then I decided to be a

726
00:29:58,714 --> 00:30:01,154
Speaker 2: better person and be a model. I'm like, so that

727
00:30:01,194 --> 00:30:03,314
Speaker 2: does not make you a better person. No, you could

728
00:30:03,314 --> 00:30:05,594
Speaker 2: have been lovely as a quote unquote fat uber driver

729
00:30:05,674 --> 00:30:08,554
Speaker 2: and now you're slightly disturbing as a model.

730
00:30:08,594 --> 00:30:10,234
Speaker 4: Bring other people down as well to say that.

731
00:30:10,554 --> 00:30:12,874
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like he did look I guess he looks

732
00:30:12,994 --> 00:30:14,554
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to be a bit here. He did

733
00:30:14,554 --> 00:30:16,074
Speaker 2: look kind of hopeful when he got to the top

734
00:30:16,074 --> 00:30:17,874
Speaker 2: of the aisle and his mum was there. We'll get

735
00:30:17,874 --> 00:30:21,114
Speaker 2: to her because yeah, talk about wanting to be famous.

736
00:30:21,514 --> 00:30:24,354
Speaker 2: And then Juliet comes down the aisle. She looked lovely.

737
00:30:25,194 --> 00:30:27,994
Speaker 2: She looked so hopeful too. Some I'm like, but also

738
00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:29,874
Speaker 2: they seem to have like it was a bit of

739
00:30:29,914 --> 00:30:31,874
Speaker 2: an awkward moment, but like when he fixed her dress

740
00:30:31,874 --> 00:30:33,834
Speaker 2: and they had laugh part of me was like, oh,

741
00:30:33,914 --> 00:30:34,834
Speaker 2: is this going to be okay.

742
00:30:34,994 --> 00:30:37,114
Speaker 5: That's why I kind of came to not mind him

743
00:30:37,154 --> 00:30:40,274
Speaker 5: in the wedding. Yeah, like because she didn't mind it,

744
00:30:40,314 --> 00:30:41,794
Speaker 5: Like I felt like she was kind of into it.

745
00:30:41,834 --> 00:30:44,954
Speaker 5: She was looking for some quirky like obviously people were

746
00:30:44,994 --> 00:30:45,874
Speaker 5: reacting like.

747
00:30:45,914 --> 00:30:47,754
Speaker 4: In the crowd, and I think she could pick up

748
00:30:47,754 --> 00:30:47,994
Speaker 4: on that.

749
00:30:48,274 --> 00:30:49,914
Speaker 5: But they had a little bit of a sweet moment,

750
00:30:50,154 --> 00:30:51,634
Speaker 5: like the hobby wify.

751
00:30:52,394 --> 00:30:54,514
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we know that there's some tricks that go

752
00:30:54,594 --> 00:30:57,714
Speaker 2: down at these wedding ceremonies where like the celebrant will

753
00:30:57,714 --> 00:30:59,954
Speaker 2: like not speak straight away and like leave like a

754
00:31:00,034 --> 00:31:03,074
Speaker 2: normal marriage element really takes control of situation and like

755
00:31:03,234 --> 00:31:05,874
Speaker 2: moves the ceremony along makes the couple feel comfortable. I

756
00:31:05,914 --> 00:31:08,114
Speaker 2: married at first sight, celebrate. We know kind of will

757
00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:11,034
Speaker 2: pause and stop and things so that you can have

758
00:31:11,114 --> 00:31:13,754
Speaker 2: those awkward moments they have time to react. We know

759
00:31:13,834 --> 00:31:16,634
Speaker 2: that they film it a few times. They're getting coverage shots,

760
00:31:16,634 --> 00:31:18,634
Speaker 2: so like there's all of that in there, But the

761
00:31:18,674 --> 00:31:22,274
Speaker 2: real awkwardness didn't really start to the reception. My god,

762
00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:25,794
Speaker 2: and the speeches from Joel and his mother.

763
00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:30,234
Speaker 5: His mother sounds insane. Oh my gosh, she's so First off,

764
00:31:30,274 --> 00:31:32,874
Speaker 5: his speech was rogue. He was going on about being

765
00:31:33,114 --> 00:31:36,554
Speaker 5: smelly and gross, and he was ready going in a

766
00:31:36,674 --> 00:31:39,234
Speaker 5: very weird direction. And then his mom takes to the

767
00:31:39,274 --> 00:31:41,914
Speaker 5: microphone and is saying how he's lying on her lap

768
00:31:41,954 --> 00:31:44,594
Speaker 5: and he's giving little back tickles and he's lying there

769
00:31:44,594 --> 00:31:48,394
Speaker 5: with a teddy bear, which okay, okay, that's quite nicey whatever.

770
00:31:48,794 --> 00:31:53,434
Speaker 2: But I mean, the thing is, here's the line, I

771
00:31:53,474 --> 00:31:54,994
Speaker 2: get my mum to give me a backscratch?

772
00:31:55,074 --> 00:31:55,594
Speaker 4: Is that weird?

773
00:31:56,234 --> 00:31:59,034
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to be a sexist, because

774
00:31:59,074 --> 00:32:01,234
Speaker 2: I actually do think that's fine. Actually, to be honest,

775
00:32:01,274 --> 00:32:02,474
Speaker 2: it was that I would to give my dad to

776
00:32:02,514 --> 00:32:05,554
Speaker 2: do that. There was no one part of the speech

777
00:32:05,594 --> 00:32:07,994
Speaker 2: that was awful. It was the calmon nation of it all.

778
00:32:08,274 --> 00:32:09,714
Speaker 2: I don't want to say that a girl man kind

779
00:32:09,714 --> 00:32:12,314
Speaker 2: of his mom scratches back. I've never seen anyone do it,

780
00:32:12,354 --> 00:32:14,674
Speaker 2: but whatever you guys do in your own home. It was.

781
00:32:14,714 --> 00:32:18,234
Speaker 2: And the thing is, here's the thing. In one side,

782
00:32:18,354 --> 00:32:20,674
Speaker 2: it was actually lovely that his mom was the one

783
00:32:20,754 --> 00:32:22,994
Speaker 2: who was there for him and she was the most involved,

784
00:32:23,354 --> 00:32:26,194
Speaker 2: because a man who really loves and respects his mother

785
00:32:26,394 --> 00:32:28,194
Speaker 2: can go either way. He can be a good guy

786
00:32:28,314 --> 00:32:30,554
Speaker 2: or a bad guy. But a man who doesn't respect

787
00:32:30,594 --> 00:32:33,394
Speaker 2: his mother can only be a bad guy. And so

788
00:32:34,034 --> 00:32:36,234
Speaker 2: at the beginning, I was like, Okay, so that's kind

789
00:32:36,274 --> 00:32:39,674
Speaker 2: of nice. Yeah, but I also think that her speech

790
00:32:39,714 --> 00:32:41,234
Speaker 2: is everyone's like, I can't believe she said that at

791
00:32:41,274 --> 00:32:42,514
Speaker 2: a wedding, And I was like, well, it's not a wedding,

792
00:32:42,554 --> 00:32:45,314
Speaker 2: it's a mass filming TV show. They're not legally married,

793
00:32:45,674 --> 00:32:47,914
Speaker 2: they don't know half the people in this audience. So

794
00:32:47,994 --> 00:32:51,474
Speaker 2: I actually feel like his mother's speech again sounded like

795
00:32:51,554 --> 00:32:55,754
Speaker 2: a pre rehearsed comedy routine that she was doing. Because

796
00:32:55,754 --> 00:32:58,234
Speaker 2: he's obviously there. He's become a model, he's trying to

797
00:32:58,274 --> 00:33:01,034
Speaker 2: be famous. He's obviously there to become a media personality.

798
00:33:01,314 --> 00:33:03,514
Speaker 2: And I'm sure he's thinking like, oh, this girl's nice,

799
00:33:03,554 --> 00:33:06,314
Speaker 2: like we could still date, but he's clearly there to

800
00:33:06,354 --> 00:33:09,754
Speaker 2: be famous, and so his mom is there to like

801
00:33:09,874 --> 00:33:13,474
Speaker 2: help push his fame by doing something that she thought

802
00:33:13,514 --> 00:33:16,114
Speaker 2: would be a viral moment and potentially the two of

803
00:33:16,154 --> 00:33:19,274
Speaker 2: them thought they would come off like really quirky. I

804
00:33:19,514 --> 00:33:23,394
Speaker 2: don't think they were meaning to come off as creepy.

805
00:33:23,994 --> 00:33:27,274
Speaker 5: How I imagine like that's how I imagine Brooklyn Beckham's wedding.

806
00:33:27,514 --> 00:33:29,594
Speaker 5: Oh my god, the Troy Beckham's taken to the mic.

807
00:33:30,034 --> 00:33:31,954
Speaker 2: She gets that there and she was like, he was

808
00:33:31,994 --> 00:33:34,994
Speaker 2: such a special baby that I had to nourish, and

809
00:33:35,034 --> 00:33:37,834
Speaker 2: then he became gluttonous, and I was like, Jesus Christ,

810
00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:40,554
Speaker 2: it's not that that shaming again. We know, can we

811
00:33:40,714 --> 00:33:41,434
Speaker 2: what's going on that?

812
00:33:41,714 --> 00:33:43,394
Speaker 4: Jason? I feel like they were doing a back to

813
00:33:43,434 --> 00:33:44,354
Speaker 4: back comedy routine.

814
00:33:44,474 --> 00:33:49,074
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they had prerehearsed, Sure, exactly, and that's the

815
00:33:49,314 --> 00:33:51,274
Speaker 2: and someone who reheases their comedy like that is like,

816
00:33:51,274 --> 00:33:54,074
Speaker 2: that's an ick. And then she went on to talk about, yeah,

817
00:33:54,114 --> 00:33:57,794
Speaker 2: like giving him backscratches and watching people's reaction was quite funny.

818
00:33:57,874 --> 00:33:59,594
Speaker 5: I think it just made everybody feel a little bit

819
00:33:59,714 --> 00:34:03,394
Speaker 5: uncomfortable and it was just unexpected, unexpected in a wedding space.

820
00:34:03,434 --> 00:34:05,634
Speaker 2: And I was very much like Juliet was really hanging

821
00:34:05,674 --> 00:34:07,154
Speaker 2: in there, but at that moment she was like I

822
00:34:07,194 --> 00:34:10,274
Speaker 2: know about this. I was like, girl, get out of there.

823
00:34:10,354 --> 00:34:10,993
Speaker 4: A look of dread.

824
00:34:11,234 --> 00:34:13,154
Speaker 2: You can leave, as we know, as we've seen from

825
00:34:13,194 --> 00:34:15,634
Speaker 2: the contestants. You can leave, say you're going to the

826
00:34:15,634 --> 00:34:19,074
Speaker 2: bathroom and leave. I actually think the worst moment of

827
00:34:19,114 --> 00:34:24,393
Speaker 2: this whole situation and the worst jowelment, so literally, I'm

828
00:34:24,434 --> 00:34:27,473
Speaker 2: dead without being way. He looks like the others as well.

829
00:34:27,874 --> 00:34:31,074
Speaker 2: My god, oh my god, he's another dark haired guy,

830
00:34:31,234 --> 00:34:34,394
Speaker 2: was Stubble. Sorry, listeners, the reason we're laughing is because

831
00:34:34,434 --> 00:34:36,554
Speaker 2: I cannot tell the man on this show apart. So

832
00:34:36,634 --> 00:34:38,554
Speaker 2: I have a huge of the pictures that I have

833
00:34:38,714 --> 00:34:41,674
Speaker 2: pictures of them all just to make sure I'm attributing

834
00:34:41,714 --> 00:34:44,754
Speaker 2: the right bad behavior to the right man. And it's

835
00:34:44,794 --> 00:34:49,114
Speaker 2: another dark haired man, Stubble. They just these men all

836
00:34:49,114 --> 00:34:50,913
Speaker 2: look the same to me, honestly, couldn't pick one out

837
00:34:50,914 --> 00:34:53,794
Speaker 2: of the lineup. I actually think the worst Joel moment

838
00:34:53,914 --> 00:34:55,954
Speaker 2: was when they got back to the sweet afterwards. And

839
00:34:55,994 --> 00:34:57,634
Speaker 2: at first it seemed really fun. Theyre sting on the couch,

840
00:34:57,674 --> 00:35:00,194
Speaker 2: they're having a champagne. They're both like just trying to chat,

841
00:35:00,234 --> 00:35:02,234
Speaker 2: and I was like it almost seemed like two real

842
00:35:02,354 --> 00:35:05,473
Speaker 2: people talking where they were just both like let's get

843
00:35:05,514 --> 00:35:07,553
Speaker 2: separate rooms. But like this is lovely, have a nice

844
00:35:07,554 --> 00:35:10,154
Speaker 2: time on the honeymoon. And then he did the worst

845
00:35:10,154 --> 00:35:11,873
Speaker 2: thing I think I've ever seen a man do on

846
00:35:11,954 --> 00:35:14,913
Speaker 2: reality TV. Yeah, your eyes twitching, and it should be

847
00:35:14,914 --> 00:35:20,234
Speaker 2: because he walked downstairs and proceeded to come back walking

848
00:35:21,314 --> 00:35:22,073
Speaker 2: crept up.

849
00:35:22,394 --> 00:35:24,994
Speaker 5: Yeah, he like kind of crept up really low to

850
00:35:25,074 --> 00:35:25,594
Speaker 5: the stairs.

851
00:35:25,634 --> 00:35:29,674
Speaker 2: It was serial killer s Yes, walked a little teddy

852
00:35:29,674 --> 00:35:31,434
Speaker 2: bear up, the crusty.

853
00:35:31,114 --> 00:35:33,354
Speaker 4: Old teddy bears like missing all of its furs.

854
00:35:33,354 --> 00:35:34,913
Speaker 2: But also even if it was a new teddy Bear,

855
00:35:35,034 --> 00:35:37,034
Speaker 2: that's actually worse. At least he's had.

856
00:35:36,994 --> 00:35:38,554
Speaker 4: A teddy in now though.

857
00:35:38,794 --> 00:35:41,114
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it'd be so much worse if he'd gone

858
00:35:41,154 --> 00:35:43,714
Speaker 2: and proachased a new one that he was parading around.

859
00:35:44,274 --> 00:35:46,154
Speaker 2: At least it still had his baby vomit on.

860
00:35:46,194 --> 00:35:46,554
Speaker 1: I don't know.

861
00:35:46,914 --> 00:35:51,393
Speaker 4: She was like surprisingly impressed. She was like that's amazing.

862
00:35:51,554 --> 00:35:52,953
Speaker 2: I think she just didn't know what to do.

863
00:35:53,114 --> 00:35:54,314
Speaker 4: How do I get out the situation?

864
00:35:54,394 --> 00:35:57,154
Speaker 2: Instead of fight or flight, she just like deteriorated into

865
00:35:57,194 --> 00:35:59,274
Speaker 2: her body, was like, I cannot do this anymore. Then

866
00:35:59,314 --> 00:36:01,834
Speaker 2: he walked the teddy bear over to meet her, and

867
00:36:01,874 --> 00:36:04,514
Speaker 2: again in his head, he's like this is so cute

868
00:36:05,114 --> 00:36:08,354
Speaker 2: and quirky and he's the man lead in like a

869
00:36:08,434 --> 00:36:11,634
Speaker 2: rom Colm like he's in his head, he's Catherine Heigel.

870
00:36:11,714 --> 00:36:13,154
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a romantic moment.

871
00:36:13,194 --> 00:36:17,274
Speaker 2: He's Meg Rye. He doesn't understand that. He's actually like Killian.

872
00:36:18,754 --> 00:36:21,314
Speaker 4: I like, bring this teddybon Productions like.

873
00:36:21,354 --> 00:36:24,474
Speaker 2: Y yes, yeah, oh my Well the producer who okay,

874
00:36:24,554 --> 00:36:25,994
Speaker 2: that was having the best day of their life. He's like,

875
00:36:25,994 --> 00:36:27,594
Speaker 2: can I bring this Teddy and walk up the stairs

876
00:36:27,594 --> 00:36:30,433
Speaker 2: and producers like yes, let's get extra cameras on that.

877
00:36:31,274 --> 00:36:33,754
Speaker 2: So that happened. But they seen them later on the

878
00:36:33,794 --> 00:36:35,834
Speaker 2: dinner party like they were doing quite.

879
00:36:35,634 --> 00:36:37,514
Speaker 4: Well at their honeymoon. It was like they had a

880
00:36:37,514 --> 00:36:38,234
Speaker 4: really cute time.

881
00:36:38,314 --> 00:36:41,513
Speaker 5: They were like frolicking in the pool, like hugging each other.

882
00:36:41,554 --> 00:36:43,634
Speaker 5: He made a really creepy comment about not being able

883
00:36:43,634 --> 00:36:45,154
Speaker 5: to get out of the pool because she was in

884
00:36:45,194 --> 00:36:46,434
Speaker 5: a sexy bikini.

885
00:36:46,314 --> 00:36:48,433
Speaker 2: And I just thought, let's just I mean, maybe some

886
00:36:48,594 --> 00:36:50,194
Speaker 2: chicks would like that. And I was just thinking, if

887
00:36:50,194 --> 00:36:51,834
Speaker 2: they can newling in the pool, I'd been so good.

888
00:36:51,834 --> 00:36:53,754
Speaker 2: If the camera panned and the Teddy man is like.

889
00:36:53,674 --> 00:36:57,794
Speaker 4: On the watching them Teddy coums everywhere.

890
00:36:58,114 --> 00:36:59,794
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you that, Teddy. That's the kind of

891
00:36:59,794 --> 00:37:01,393
Speaker 2: tell you that you wake up it standing over your

892
00:37:01,434 --> 00:37:01,873
Speaker 2: bed at night.

893
00:37:01,914 --> 00:37:02,954
Speaker 4: But Teddy has seen something.

894
00:37:03,034 --> 00:37:04,913
Speaker 2: It has Oh my god, it's seen so much. Get

895
00:37:04,954 --> 00:37:09,194
Speaker 2: that Teddy atell interview. Okay, coming to the worst couple,

896
00:37:09,514 --> 00:37:11,754
Speaker 2: the worst couple that has come on merri at first site,

897
00:37:11,874 --> 00:37:12,994
Speaker 2: maybe even this season.

898
00:37:13,194 --> 00:37:15,074
Speaker 5: I'm surprised it took this long for them to get

899
00:37:15,074 --> 00:37:17,873
Speaker 5: this couple in. Like I think I already thought we'd

900
00:37:17,874 --> 00:37:20,354
Speaker 5: see like the worst of this season when we had Chris,

901
00:37:20,514 --> 00:37:23,074
Speaker 5: But now Chris actually seems like an angel.

902
00:37:23,154 --> 00:37:25,114
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't go that far, but I just feel

903
00:37:25,154 --> 00:37:27,354
Speaker 2: like maybe Chris and Tyson, like this show would have

904
00:37:27,354 --> 00:37:29,314
Speaker 2: been shut down by the police or something. They had

905
00:37:29,314 --> 00:37:30,754
Speaker 2: to have them on separately.

906
00:37:30,394 --> 00:37:30,993
Speaker 4: Separate them.

907
00:37:31,114 --> 00:37:33,474
Speaker 2: So we had Stephanie and Tyson and do you do

908
00:37:33,474 --> 00:37:35,834
Speaker 2: you want to describe them? There's nothing I say is

909
00:37:35,834 --> 00:37:36,794
Speaker 2: going to be able to go to air.

910
00:37:36,914 --> 00:37:40,354
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, So Tyson ex military men, he's actually

911
00:37:40,354 --> 00:37:42,913
Speaker 5: a divorce is coming in looking for a new shot

912
00:37:42,914 --> 00:37:45,433
Speaker 5: at love. We find out very quickly that he's a

913
00:37:45,434 --> 00:37:49,553
Speaker 5: Trump supporter, He's anti feminist, he hates women with green hair.

914
00:37:49,594 --> 00:37:51,914
Speaker 5: He doesn't like when girls go on nights out, doesn't

915
00:37:51,994 --> 00:37:54,234
Speaker 5: like when girls have jobs, he doesn't like when girls

916
00:37:54,274 --> 00:37:56,514
Speaker 5: have a body colt over zero.

917
00:37:56,914 --> 00:37:58,433
Speaker 4: So what I'm hearing is he just.

918
00:37:58,394 --> 00:38:00,913
Speaker 5: Doesn't like women, which is interesting because you've signed up

919
00:38:00,954 --> 00:38:02,473
Speaker 5: for a show we have to.

920
00:38:02,434 --> 00:38:04,754
Speaker 2: Marry, or he does not like women at all, Oh

921
00:38:04,834 --> 00:38:08,834
Speaker 2: my gosh, And like watching his audition and tape and

922
00:38:08,874 --> 00:38:11,074
Speaker 2: you can just see the clocks in the producer's head

923
00:38:11,074 --> 00:38:13,074
Speaker 2: being like, this guy is going to be such a

924
00:38:13,074 --> 00:38:15,754
Speaker 2: good entry to the show. And then also they make

925
00:38:15,834 --> 00:38:19,114
Speaker 2: this big deal about matching him with Stephanie because they're like, oh,

926
00:38:19,154 --> 00:38:21,194
Speaker 2: but she like, she really wants a relationship and she

927
00:38:21,194 --> 00:38:23,953
Speaker 2: wants kids, and he wants kids, and she is also

928
00:38:24,154 --> 00:38:26,594
Speaker 2: anti woke and he's anti woken. So it's almost that

929
00:38:26,634 --> 00:38:29,234
Speaker 2: they're trying to like play up that they're putting them together,

930
00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:30,834
Speaker 2: but they know exactly what they're doing. They're putting a

931
00:38:30,834 --> 00:38:34,194
Speaker 2: really volatile, scary man with a woman who yet it

932
00:38:34,194 --> 00:38:35,194
Speaker 2: doesn't come across great.

933
00:38:35,234 --> 00:38:37,314
Speaker 5: But no one deserves that, no, And I think I

934
00:38:37,314 --> 00:38:39,714
Speaker 5: don't think Stephanie knows what she's talking about. It's very

935
00:38:39,794 --> 00:38:42,514
Speaker 5: easy to sit there and say I'm not woke, I'm

936
00:38:42,554 --> 00:38:45,074
Speaker 5: not a feminist, but you're enjoying the liberties of what

937
00:38:45,514 --> 00:38:47,754
Speaker 5: equality gives us Yeah, And she also does make a

938
00:38:47,794 --> 00:38:50,674
Speaker 5: point she says, I'm for equality, but I'm not a feminist.

939
00:38:50,714 --> 00:38:52,034
Speaker 4: Well you don't know what it means then, no.

940
00:38:52,154 --> 00:38:53,514
Speaker 2: I think she's one of those people who's got the

941
00:38:53,514 --> 00:38:54,954
Speaker 2: wrong end of the stick in terms of like she

942
00:38:55,034 --> 00:38:57,274
Speaker 2: thinks of being a feminist means I hate man and

943
00:38:57,314 --> 00:38:58,394
Speaker 2: I don't want to get married.

944
00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:00,914
Speaker 4: Where it's going to come out of this experiment like that.

945
00:39:00,834 --> 00:39:02,954
Speaker 2: Well exactly, hook girl. If he didn't think that before,

946
00:39:02,994 --> 00:39:05,993
Speaker 2: you will after this. Whereas I think maybe what she's

947
00:39:05,994 --> 00:39:09,154
Speaker 2: missing is like the core of feminism is like equal rights. Yeah,

948
00:39:09,194 --> 00:39:10,834
Speaker 2: that you can choose to work, you can choose to

949
00:39:10,834 --> 00:39:12,393
Speaker 2: stay at home. I feel when youn choose to get married,

950
00:39:12,394 --> 00:39:13,834
Speaker 2: it's about having a choice. And I was like, that

951
00:39:13,954 --> 00:39:16,274
Speaker 2: is what you're doing by having your own career. And

952
00:39:16,314 --> 00:39:18,154
Speaker 2: also the fact that she's thirty two and has never

953
00:39:18,194 --> 00:39:20,634
Speaker 2: been a serious relationship. Well, I actually think it's quite

954
00:39:20,634 --> 00:39:21,834
Speaker 2: refreshing to see on TV.

955
00:39:22,114 --> 00:39:23,834
Speaker 4: I have that conversation with a lot of people.

956
00:39:23,994 --> 00:39:27,074
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really common, I feel, yeah, because now we

957
00:39:27,114 --> 00:39:29,754
Speaker 2: have rights, yeah exactly, and people don't have to get

958
00:39:29,794 --> 00:39:32,594
Speaker 2: married in order to leave their family home. So I

959
00:39:32,594 --> 00:39:34,274
Speaker 2: thought that was fine, but yeah, it was interesting. What

960
00:39:34,274 --> 00:39:36,874
Speaker 2: you're saying is I think she's enjoying all the fruits

961
00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:38,993
Speaker 2: of what she's saying she doesn't like. But I think

962
00:39:39,034 --> 00:39:42,074
Speaker 2: that's just a miscommunication totally on her end.

963
00:39:42,194 --> 00:39:44,393
Speaker 5: And that's where I think they're going to clash and

964
00:39:44,434 --> 00:39:47,433
Speaker 5: she's going to like face some hard truths because he

965
00:39:47,874 --> 00:39:49,794
Speaker 5: is just coming across.

966
00:39:49,434 --> 00:39:52,354
Speaker 4: As a vile person and really dangerous and it's kind

967
00:39:52,354 --> 00:39:54,594
Speaker 4: of scary to see someone platformed.

968
00:39:54,114 --> 00:39:56,194
Speaker 2: Like that, and that's the confronting thing. And I've got

969
00:39:56,234 --> 00:39:58,594
Speaker 2: to say I felt, really I often feel little bit

970
00:39:58,634 --> 00:40:01,034
Speaker 2: sick watching maths, but I felt quite sick watching this

971
00:40:01,074 --> 00:40:04,834
Speaker 2: particular storyline because I honestly think it's more than just

972
00:40:04,954 --> 00:40:07,393
Speaker 2: like him being like a mass feelin you know, a

973
00:40:07,434 --> 00:40:10,874
Speaker 2: bad guy. It was more like bringing this man who

974
00:40:11,074 --> 00:40:14,194
Speaker 2: represents this way of thinking. And the scary thing is

975
00:40:14,234 --> 00:40:16,594
Speaker 2: like it's not just him, and I think sometimes it's

976
00:40:16,634 --> 00:40:18,634
Speaker 2: really kind of almost comforting to like live in our

977
00:40:18,634 --> 00:40:20,594
Speaker 2: little bubble. Is like, I don't have anyone in my

978
00:40:20,634 --> 00:40:22,794
Speaker 2: life who talks like that. I don't come into contact

979
00:40:22,834 --> 00:40:25,274
Speaker 2: with anyone who talks like that. Comments on the internet, yes,

980
00:40:25,274 --> 00:40:27,514
Speaker 2: but they're not real people to me. The thing is

981
00:40:27,554 --> 00:40:29,473
Speaker 2: there are so many men and women out there who

982
00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:32,033
Speaker 2: would agree with his way of thinking and the way

983
00:40:32,074 --> 00:40:34,554
Speaker 2: he came in and there's this kind of like hatred

984
00:40:34,594 --> 00:40:37,034
Speaker 2: against women in the way he speaks, and like this

985
00:40:37,154 --> 00:40:38,954
Speaker 2: kind of like I would never want to be in

986
00:40:38,994 --> 00:40:41,314
Speaker 2: alone in a room with this man ever, even with

987
00:40:41,354 --> 00:40:44,234
Speaker 2: a camera like not okay. And the way he talks

988
00:40:44,234 --> 00:40:47,274
Speaker 2: about wanting a submissive woman and a woman who would

989
00:40:47,314 --> 00:40:50,274
Speaker 2: bow to his every will, and just everything he said

990
00:40:50,754 --> 00:40:55,074
Speaker 2: came across as so problematic and controlling that I honestly

991
00:40:55,954 --> 00:40:58,114
Speaker 2: just even hate the idea he's on this TV show.

992
00:40:58,154 --> 00:41:00,354
Speaker 2: I know it's making, it's making good TV, but I

993
00:41:00,394 --> 00:41:02,433
Speaker 2: don't think we should be platforming that as a way.

994
00:41:02,474 --> 00:41:03,953
Speaker 2: I don't know, Math isn't here to do that. That's

995
00:41:03,954 --> 00:41:05,274
Speaker 2: not the point of the show. It's not why people

996
00:41:05,274 --> 00:41:08,154
Speaker 2: watch it, but thinking about the amount of people at

997
00:41:08,154 --> 00:41:10,154
Speaker 2: home who were agreeing and nodding along with him and

998
00:41:10,194 --> 00:41:10,873
Speaker 2: cheering for him.

999
00:41:10,954 --> 00:41:13,034
Speaker 5: But there are people who will relate to that, And

1000
00:41:13,074 --> 00:41:15,074
Speaker 5: there are like corners of the Internet which don't come

1001
00:41:15,154 --> 00:41:18,514
Speaker 5: up on my algorithm, but will just feed on that cycle.

1002
00:41:18,594 --> 00:41:20,913
Speaker 5: And I'm sure there are people who watch that and

1003
00:41:20,954 --> 00:41:23,594
Speaker 5: resonate with a lot of what he's saying, and it's

1004
00:41:23,674 --> 00:41:26,794
Speaker 5: just so far from like my sphere that it's enraging

1005
00:41:26,914 --> 00:41:29,834
Speaker 5: to watch, But it is something that I know is

1006
00:41:29,834 --> 00:41:31,194
Speaker 5: becoming like more prominent.

1007
00:41:31,314 --> 00:41:33,034
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of it was kind of like almost

1008
00:41:33,034 --> 00:41:37,114
Speaker 2: signaling this growing like a men's rights, anti women, anti

1009
00:41:37,154 --> 00:41:39,674
Speaker 2: freedom movement that we know is like become so huge

1010
00:41:39,674 --> 00:41:41,873
Speaker 2: online and it's now also become huge in the real world.

1011
00:41:41,954 --> 00:41:44,514
Speaker 2: It was like platforming that. I mean. The other thing too,

1012
00:41:44,634 --> 00:41:47,873
Speaker 2: is like I think sometimes people get really judgmental over

1013
00:41:48,154 --> 00:41:50,034
Speaker 2: like men and women saying just what they want in

1014
00:41:50,034 --> 00:41:52,514
Speaker 2: a relationship. And just to be super clear, if a

1015
00:41:52,554 --> 00:41:54,234
Speaker 2: man says like I want to be like the one

1016
00:41:54,234 --> 00:41:56,913
Speaker 2: in charge and take leadership, and a woman says, I

1017
00:41:56,954 --> 00:41:59,554
Speaker 2: personally feel like better like not being in control. I

1018
00:41:59,554 --> 00:42:02,274
Speaker 2: feel better like having someone to look after me. I

1019
00:42:02,274 --> 00:42:04,274
Speaker 2: think if they both agree on that, then that's actually

1020
00:42:04,314 --> 00:42:07,873
Speaker 2: fine because that's personality based. It's when someone says men

1021
00:42:07,914 --> 00:42:10,433
Speaker 2: should do this and women should do this that's the

1022
00:42:10,434 --> 00:42:10,873
Speaker 2: red flag.

1023
00:42:10,994 --> 00:42:13,674
Speaker 5: The roles, like his general roles are like from back

1024
00:42:13,754 --> 00:42:17,274
Speaker 5: in the nineteen sixties, and he also contradicts himself time

1025
00:42:17,314 --> 00:42:19,834
Speaker 5: and time. Yeah, he says he wants to be the

1026
00:42:19,914 --> 00:42:23,274
Speaker 5: provider and you know, look after his wife. But then

1027
00:42:23,714 --> 00:42:25,873
Speaker 5: he is saying, you can sleep on the couch.

1028
00:42:25,874 --> 00:42:26,993
Speaker 4: Why would I say on the couch?

1029
00:42:26,994 --> 00:42:28,913
Speaker 2: Oh? Like I wouldn't pay for you on a first date.

1030
00:42:28,994 --> 00:42:31,433
Speaker 2: If I was in a first day, I was like, god, man,

1031
00:42:31,474 --> 00:42:33,554
Speaker 2: you want to be a protector. One step up. But

1032
00:42:33,634 --> 00:42:36,114
Speaker 2: also I don't think he's I can't decide with this

1033
00:42:36,154 --> 00:42:38,514
Speaker 2: man who I don't want to use his name, Tyson

1034
00:42:38,834 --> 00:42:41,194
Speaker 2: sounds like a fake name. Anyway, here's the thing. I'm

1035
00:42:41,234 --> 00:42:44,074
Speaker 2: not sure if he is really being very guarded with

1036
00:42:44,114 --> 00:42:48,394
Speaker 2: what he says because he knows that's terrify. Isn't that terrified?

1037
00:42:48,914 --> 00:42:52,714
Speaker 2: Only because I feel I know right, only because I

1038
00:42:52,714 --> 00:42:54,794
Speaker 2: think is he not saying what he really thinks? Because

1039
00:42:54,874 --> 00:42:57,314
Speaker 2: even what he's saying is awful. But does he know

1040
00:42:57,874 --> 00:42:59,473
Speaker 2: is there a part of him that knows that if

1041
00:42:59,474 --> 00:43:01,714
Speaker 2: he spoke the way he truly felt, he would be

1042
00:43:01,754 --> 00:43:03,274
Speaker 2: taken off the show and he would be the most

1043
00:43:03,314 --> 00:43:06,114
Speaker 2: hated man in Australia Or does he not really know

1044
00:43:06,154 --> 00:43:08,154
Speaker 2: what's going on? Because when they said to him, like

1045
00:43:08,194 --> 00:43:09,594
Speaker 2: at the dinner party, they was saying to him like

1046
00:43:09,634 --> 00:43:11,594
Speaker 2: and the producers was saying to him off camera like

1047
00:43:11,994 --> 00:43:14,594
Speaker 2: what just woke me? Like what are you actually upset about?

1048
00:43:14,594 --> 00:43:17,834
Speaker 2: And he couldn't put it into words when he said, like, oh,

1049
00:43:17,994 --> 00:43:21,474
Speaker 2: you know, like a woman with green hair, and you

1050
00:43:21,514 --> 00:43:23,393
Speaker 2: know people who like don't look after their bodies like

1051
00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:25,554
Speaker 2: I look after my body, like woke people don't do that.

1052
00:43:25,594 --> 00:43:28,194
Speaker 2: And it's like you are either the dumbest person in

1053
00:43:28,234 --> 00:43:32,314
Speaker 2: the world that you think being woke means you color

1054
00:43:32,354 --> 00:43:36,394
Speaker 2: your hair and don't go to the gym, which is wiry,

1055
00:43:37,714 --> 00:43:40,674
Speaker 2: or when you say I'm woke and I believe in this,

1056
00:43:40,714 --> 00:43:43,354
Speaker 2: and when you're asked to clarify even you know that

1057
00:43:43,354 --> 00:43:45,194
Speaker 2: that's not something you can say on TV, that it's

1058
00:43:45,234 --> 00:43:47,634
Speaker 2: so kind of off killterone dangerous to women that you

1059
00:43:47,674 --> 00:43:50,234
Speaker 2: can't say it, and so you backtrack and flobber and

1060
00:43:50,274 --> 00:43:52,594
Speaker 2: say this weird stuff about green hair. Yeah, And I

1061
00:43:52,594 --> 00:43:53,274
Speaker 2: think it's that one.

1062
00:43:53,314 --> 00:43:54,034
Speaker 4: I think it's that one.

1063
00:43:54,034 --> 00:43:55,993
Speaker 5: I think he doesn't want to just openly say hey,

1064
00:43:56,114 --> 00:43:57,474
Speaker 5: I'm a racist.

1065
00:43:57,234 --> 00:44:00,073
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and I'm sexist and I'm all these things

1066
00:44:00,114 --> 00:44:01,674
Speaker 2: even at dinner and they're just like are you okay

1067
00:44:01,674 --> 00:44:03,354
Speaker 2: with gay people? And I don't want to put words

1068
00:44:03,354 --> 00:44:04,794
Speaker 2: in his mouth, but he's like, no, no, it's fine. I

1069
00:44:04,794 --> 00:44:08,034
Speaker 2: have gay friends, but I'm not. Hey, I hate It's like,

1070
00:44:08,474 --> 00:44:10,194
Speaker 2: say less.

1071
00:44:09,674 --> 00:44:11,314
Speaker 4: You've said, I've heard what I needed to hear.

1072
00:44:11,514 --> 00:44:13,994
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I know initially when the producers asked him

1073
00:44:14,034 --> 00:44:16,953
Speaker 5: about how he felt about same sex marriage, he was like, oh,

1074
00:44:16,994 --> 00:44:18,873
Speaker 5: you know, I'm fine with it, but I don't want

1075
00:44:18,874 --> 00:44:21,553
Speaker 5: to shoved in my face. Like, well, that's funny because

1076
00:44:21,554 --> 00:44:23,834
Speaker 5: we're watching you get married shoved down my face.

1077
00:44:23,994 --> 00:44:26,234
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. There were all these things about the way

1078
00:44:26,274 --> 00:44:28,514
Speaker 2: he spoke that I feel like I've seen a lot

1079
00:44:28,554 --> 00:44:30,714
Speaker 2: of people be like he's so unfiltered. I actually think

1080
00:44:30,754 --> 00:44:33,394
Speaker 2: he's been very guarded. And that's the more terrifying.

1081
00:44:33,034 --> 00:44:35,514
Speaker 5: Getting like a mix of both, because I think with

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Speaker 5: a lot of people who you know, have those views,

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Speaker 5: they actually can't explain themselves, like they don't have the

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Speaker 5: understanding of where the views really come from. Sometimes it

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Speaker 5: doesn't make sense, it's not grounded in sense or what's fair.

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Speaker 2: But I think it was also very telling when you

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Speaker 2: looked at the wedding and you could see, like like

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Speaker 2: Elissa was pointing out, She's like, oh, there's no women

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Speaker 2: on his side. It's all men, which I was like,

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Speaker 2: is there a woman? In the world. Who feels comfortable

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Speaker 2: being around that man? Probably not. And also when Stephanie

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Speaker 2: got to the aisle and she was like saying, like

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Speaker 2: I do this and I'm really driven, and you could

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Speaker 2: see all the men on Tyson's side like look at

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Speaker 2: each other really worriedly and concerned. It was like a

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Speaker 2: weird brotherhood cult where they sacrificed virgins. It was like

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Speaker 2: all of them like, oh no, like she said, she's driven.

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Speaker 2: She said, oh, he won't like that. He won't like that.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, that's where it's come from, And

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Speaker 2: it's from the men around it.

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Speaker 4: There's like a group of them actually have this thing.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes Like if I'm like on like a night out

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Speaker 5: and i end up somewhere and there's like a group

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Speaker 5: of men, I'll be like, so do you guys like

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Speaker 5: Andrew Tate. Yeah, that's a good way to know, And

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Speaker 5: they will be like, yeah, that he has some good points,

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Speaker 5: Like that's terrifying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what good points? Yeah, you want to put that

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Speaker 2: like a pressed emergency button on your phone.

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Speaker 5: But it's so interesting because you just think it feels

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Speaker 5: like a far away thing. I always feel like it

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Speaker 5: feels far like it's something that's in the States and

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Speaker 5: it's not over here, and it's not with.

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Speaker 4: Like the men in Australia. I mean, obviously, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: dangerous thoughts. Obviously.

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Speaker 5: There was also the dinner party, but so much happened.

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Speaker 2: I can't even get into that right now. To the

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Speaker 2: whole Tyson thing.

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Speaker 5: No, we're going to have to unpack that and the

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Speaker 5: fall out next week. Like honestly, it was just Beck

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Speaker 5: screaming for forty minutes and everyone, oh my god, everyone

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Speaker 5: had a target on their head.

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Speaker 2: It was exactly well, we'll see all the fallout from

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Speaker 2: that next week, and also how all these new couples

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Speaker 2: are fairing. And hopefully everyone stay safe out there, ladies.

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Speaker 2: That's all we're going to say. Well, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for listening to The Spill today, and if you

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Speaker 2: when our wee can watch episode drops at six am tomorrow.

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