1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:26,024 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on from Mama Mia. 5 00:00:26,224 --> 00:00:28,784 Speaker 4: Welcome to the Spill your daily pop clutter Fixed. 6 00:00:28,784 --> 00:00:30,744 Speaker 3: I'm and Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick. 7 00:00:30,944 --> 00:00:33,744 Speaker 4: And on the show today a bit of a different one. 8 00:00:33,784 --> 00:00:37,024 Speaker 4: We are talking about the show f Boy Ireland, all 9 00:00:37,064 --> 00:00:40,144 Speaker 4: the Backlasher got last season but plus how everyone still 10 00:00:40,184 --> 00:00:42,784 Speaker 4: wants to watch it this season. We also have a 11 00:00:42,824 --> 00:00:45,384 Speaker 4: fiery interview with Abby Chatfield as well as some of 12 00:00:45,424 --> 00:00:46,744 Speaker 4: the cast from this season. 13 00:00:47,144 --> 00:00:50,184 Speaker 1: But first, but first in the news this week has 14 00:00:50,304 --> 00:00:53,424 Speaker 1: once again been Shiloh Jolly Pitch soon to be just 15 00:00:53,584 --> 00:00:54,464 Speaker 1: Shiloh Jolly. 16 00:00:54,944 --> 00:00:56,744 Speaker 3: So that is, she's still Pitt. 17 00:00:57,264 --> 00:00:59,424 Speaker 1: Yes, as all the news headlines have said, there's been 18 00:00:59,464 --> 00:01:02,544 Speaker 1: a little staffu in her bid to change her name 19 00:01:02,624 --> 00:01:05,024 Speaker 1: and get rid of her father, Brad Pitt's name. Knowing 20 00:01:05,064 --> 00:01:07,344 Speaker 1: their kids' names in the correct order is like the 21 00:01:07,344 --> 00:01:11,584 Speaker 1: one superpower I have. So it's maddex Zahar, then Shiloh 22 00:01:11,624 --> 00:01:14,584 Speaker 1: so their third child. So made headlines a couple of 23 00:01:14,584 --> 00:01:16,424 Speaker 1: months ago. She filed in May of this year to 24 00:01:16,584 --> 00:01:19,224 Speaker 1: drop Brad Pitt's name. Obviously, there's been the whole court 25 00:01:19,544 --> 00:01:22,144 Speaker 1: hearing around custody. There's been so much back and forth 26 00:01:22,544 --> 00:01:25,464 Speaker 1: around that breakup and this famous family, and this was 27 00:01:25,504 --> 00:01:28,184 Speaker 1: the biggest indicator what his children think of him and 28 00:01:28,224 --> 00:01:30,944 Speaker 1: how they must have some sort of like deep seated 29 00:01:30,984 --> 00:01:33,624 Speaker 1: like anger, resentment or something like that to not even 30 00:01:33,664 --> 00:01:36,264 Speaker 1: want because there's a lot of legal hoops you have 31 00:01:36,344 --> 00:01:38,464 Speaker 1: to go through to get your name changed in this 32 00:01:38,544 --> 00:01:39,504 Speaker 1: way and to drop his name. 33 00:01:39,544 --> 00:01:42,424 Speaker 4: So this is the first official knowing that. We know 34 00:01:42,544 --> 00:01:45,824 Speaker 4: that because we've heard his son Pak's talk on his 35 00:01:45,904 --> 00:01:48,784 Speaker 4: Instagram stories about Brad when he won the Oscar. 36 00:01:49,424 --> 00:01:52,664 Speaker 1: Yes, and we know that their eldest daughters, Ahara just 37 00:01:52,744 --> 00:01:55,384 Speaker 1: goes by Jolie, that's how she says it. But yeah, 38 00:01:55,384 --> 00:01:58,304 Speaker 1: this is the first child to do it legally, and 39 00:01:58,384 --> 00:02:00,664 Speaker 1: so with that she had to file the petition. I 40 00:02:00,704 --> 00:02:02,824 Speaker 1: do really feel for her because obviously she's grown up 41 00:02:02,824 --> 00:02:04,944 Speaker 1: in the spotlight. But every time she puts any sort 42 00:02:04,984 --> 00:02:08,624 Speaker 1: of court document through, it becomes public information, which means 43 00:02:08,624 --> 00:02:11,624 Speaker 1: that there's worldwide headlines around it. And then as part 44 00:02:11,664 --> 00:02:14,344 Speaker 1: of changing your name, you have to put a announcement 45 00:02:14,344 --> 00:02:16,704 Speaker 1: in the newspaper to let people know you're changing your name, 46 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:19,104 Speaker 1: and so she did that in the Los Angeles Times. 47 00:02:19,104 --> 00:02:21,744 Speaker 1: That went everywhere, and then this week she was meant 48 00:02:21,744 --> 00:02:24,144 Speaker 1: to have the court hearing for it, and again it 49 00:02:24,224 --> 00:02:26,064 Speaker 1: all blew up because you have to have a background 50 00:02:26,184 --> 00:02:28,104 Speaker 1: check to change your name, and so there was a 51 00:02:28,104 --> 00:02:31,384 Speaker 1: clerical error and so it was denied and those headlines 52 00:02:31,384 --> 00:02:33,264 Speaker 1: went everywhere. But all it means is that it has 53 00:02:33,304 --> 00:02:35,664 Speaker 1: to be refiled and the clerical error has to be fixed, 54 00:02:35,704 --> 00:02:38,024 Speaker 1: and the background check has to go through, and then 55 00:02:38,104 --> 00:02:39,384 Speaker 1: she'll be allowed to drop. 56 00:02:39,224 --> 00:02:41,824 Speaker 4: The background check to check if you really do want to. 57 00:02:41,864 --> 00:02:42,384 Speaker 3: Change your name. 58 00:02:42,424 --> 00:02:44,624 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because it's a legally binding document, so you 59 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:45,944 Speaker 1: have to go through it. You know, it's like a 60 00:02:45,944 --> 00:02:47,584 Speaker 1: lot of paperwork. I mean, I wouldn't know with a 61 00:02:47,624 --> 00:02:49,424 Speaker 1: lot of paperwork when you get married and change your names. 62 00:02:49,424 --> 00:02:51,824 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that dropping a name, especially if it's on 63 00:02:51,864 --> 00:02:54,824 Speaker 1: your original birth certificate, would be quite intense. So that 64 00:02:54,944 --> 00:02:57,024 Speaker 1: ends the legal section of today's pod. What I find 65 00:02:57,024 --> 00:02:59,384 Speaker 1: more interesting is that at the time when it was 66 00:02:59,424 --> 00:03:02,224 Speaker 1: announced that Shiloh was dropping brad Pitt's name, because all 67 00:03:02,224 --> 00:03:05,584 Speaker 1: the legal documents were made public, brad Pitt hasn't directly 68 00:03:05,624 --> 00:03:08,784 Speaker 1: commented on it, but apparently someone his team spoke to 69 00:03:08,784 --> 00:03:11,384 Speaker 1: People magazine, and I think the statement they gave was 70 00:03:11,424 --> 00:03:14,304 Speaker 1: quiet telling. So as we know, People Magazine directly always 71 00:03:14,424 --> 00:03:17,384 Speaker 1: check like that o't print just random tip offs. They 72 00:03:17,424 --> 00:03:19,624 Speaker 1: go and check with the People's team, and so it's 73 00:03:19,704 --> 00:03:22,304 Speaker 1: kind of like a verified statement even though no one's 74 00:03:22,384 --> 00:03:24,664 Speaker 1: name is attached to it. And what I thought was 75 00:03:24,744 --> 00:03:28,144 Speaker 1: interesting is that this statement that came from Brad Pitt 76 00:03:28,224 --> 00:03:31,224 Speaker 1: said he's aware and upset that Shiloh dropped his last name. 77 00:03:31,664 --> 00:03:33,744 Speaker 1: The reminder is that he's lost his children is of 78 00:03:33,784 --> 00:03:36,144 Speaker 1: course not easy for Brad. He loves his children and 79 00:03:36,184 --> 00:03:38,464 Speaker 1: misses them all. It's very sad, and this was the 80 00:03:38,544 --> 00:03:41,464 Speaker 1: interesting bit. But he's very happy with Annez dear Ramon, 81 00:03:42,144 --> 00:03:45,104 Speaker 1: and the distance from his children pains him because he's 82 00:03:45,104 --> 00:03:48,264 Speaker 1: been with Annez, who used to be married to Paul Wesley, 83 00:03:48,304 --> 00:03:50,784 Speaker 1: who is Stefan and the Vampire Diaries. God yeah, and 84 00:03:50,824 --> 00:03:52,704 Speaker 1: then so she went from Stephan from the Vampire Diaries 85 00:03:52,744 --> 00:03:55,264 Speaker 1: to Brad Pitt, so she's living her best life. They 86 00:03:55,304 --> 00:03:58,264 Speaker 1: were photographed a lot together and they'd usually been very private. 87 00:03:58,384 --> 00:04:00,944 Speaker 1: Around the same time, all this information about his kids 88 00:04:01,024 --> 00:04:03,224 Speaker 1: dropping his name and their kind of feelings toward him 89 00:04:03,224 --> 00:04:05,024 Speaker 1: came out. So I don't know if that's like some 90 00:04:05,024 --> 00:04:07,624 Speaker 1: sort of a pr deflection or he's like, well, I'm 91 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:10,784 Speaker 1: just going to be public with my girlfriend now because 92 00:04:10,824 --> 00:04:12,384 Speaker 1: you know, my children aren't talking to him, and it 93 00:04:12,424 --> 00:04:15,264 Speaker 1: was It was just a very interesting part of events 94 00:04:15,264 --> 00:04:18,704 Speaker 1: and very interesting that this insider who is most probably 95 00:04:18,784 --> 00:04:21,824 Speaker 1: speaking on behalf of Brad Pitt, made such a point 96 00:04:21,864 --> 00:04:24,424 Speaker 1: to mention his girlfriend's name at the same time and 97 00:04:24,544 --> 00:04:26,904 Speaker 1: mention how happy they are together at the same time 98 00:04:27,504 --> 00:04:30,304 Speaker 1: as he was talking about the loss of his children. 99 00:04:30,384 --> 00:04:31,224 Speaker 1: How sad that is. 100 00:04:31,504 --> 00:04:33,584 Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of want to picture him as like 101 00:04:33,864 --> 00:04:37,184 Speaker 4: the family man, like he's like yearning for his family, 102 00:04:37,264 --> 00:04:39,744 Speaker 4: but he's also like not down in the dumps, like 103 00:04:39,784 --> 00:04:41,784 Speaker 4: he's like in a good relationship. He's got a movie 104 00:04:41,784 --> 00:04:43,904 Speaker 4: with George Clooney coming out, Like he's still like. 105 00:04:43,944 --> 00:04:46,544 Speaker 3: I really want to see, Yeah, I really want to see. 106 00:04:46,704 --> 00:04:49,704 Speaker 4: But he's still like a Hollywood heart throb that's just 107 00:04:49,704 --> 00:04:50,784 Speaker 4: like living his best life. 108 00:04:51,304 --> 00:04:55,664 Speaker 1: Nana so f Boy Island Season two will soon be 109 00:04:55,784 --> 00:04:58,504 Speaker 1: on our screens. It's coming out August fifth, and for 110 00:04:58,544 --> 00:05:00,864 Speaker 1: anyone not across the show, the first season came out 111 00:05:00,944 --> 00:05:02,544 Speaker 1: last year on Binge and it's. 112 00:05:02,384 --> 00:05:05,384 Speaker 4: A hectic name. Yeah, f Boy Island, bo Island, Like 113 00:05:05,424 --> 00:05:06,704 Speaker 4: it sounds like my worst night man. 114 00:05:07,464 --> 00:05:08,904 Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of love it with those 115 00:05:08,984 --> 00:05:11,904 Speaker 1: f boys into shape, yellowt them judge them. So when 116 00:05:11,904 --> 00:05:14,264 Speaker 1: the show was first announced last year, because it's an 117 00:05:14,264 --> 00:05:16,544 Speaker 1: international franchise, but Binge had picked it up to do 118 00:05:16,544 --> 00:05:19,704 Speaker 1: this Australian version and Abby Chatfield was announced as the host, 119 00:05:20,064 --> 00:05:22,304 Speaker 1: and there was quite a bit of backlash around you know, 120 00:05:22,344 --> 00:05:24,384 Speaker 1: it was putting women in danger and all this sort 121 00:05:24,384 --> 00:05:26,744 Speaker 1: of stuff. And then when we watched the show last year, 122 00:05:26,744 --> 00:05:28,224 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people sort of saw that 123 00:05:28,304 --> 00:05:29,784 Speaker 1: wasn't the case and it was more this kind of 124 00:05:29,824 --> 00:05:33,944 Speaker 1: interesting exploration of men's behavior, of men's behavior, and even 125 00:05:33,944 --> 00:05:34,744 Speaker 1: some of the nice guys. 126 00:05:34,784 --> 00:05:36,024 Speaker 3: I was like, you're still not great. 127 00:05:36,744 --> 00:05:38,664 Speaker 1: But you know there's two couples from that first season 128 00:05:38,744 --> 00:05:40,184 Speaker 1: still together, so oh. 129 00:05:40,104 --> 00:05:41,904 Speaker 4: That's actually quite a good How are they're going to 130 00:05:41,944 --> 00:05:44,064 Speaker 4: explain that to their children? I want to know we 131 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:45,064 Speaker 4: met on f By Island. 132 00:05:45,264 --> 00:05:47,344 Speaker 1: I feel like that generational children that's going to be 133 00:05:47,344 --> 00:05:49,504 Speaker 1: born from all of these reality TV marriages and there's 134 00:05:49,504 --> 00:05:51,224 Speaker 1: so many of that already like, that's going to become 135 00:05:51,304 --> 00:05:52,944 Speaker 1: like on the school Yard, Like what really, show? 136 00:05:52,944 --> 00:05:53,664 Speaker 3: Did your parents mean? 137 00:05:53,704 --> 00:05:53,944 Speaker 5: Not? Oh? 138 00:05:54,024 --> 00:05:55,904 Speaker 3: Yeah, my men and farmer wants a wife. 139 00:05:55,944 --> 00:05:57,904 Speaker 4: When they bring the parents in to explain what they 140 00:05:57,904 --> 00:05:59,424 Speaker 4: do as a job, and she's like, my dad's an 141 00:05:59,504 --> 00:05:59,864 Speaker 4: f boy. 142 00:06:00,064 --> 00:06:01,184 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:06:01,224 --> 00:06:03,744 Speaker 1: So for this new season, while it was filming at 144 00:06:03,744 --> 00:06:06,864 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, I snuck down to the 145 00:06:06,864 --> 00:06:09,104 Speaker 1: Gold Coast slash the new South Wales North Coast where 146 00:06:09,104 --> 00:06:12,504 Speaker 1: it's filmed F Boy Island. I went into the mansion 147 00:06:12,504 --> 00:06:14,344 Speaker 1: where the boy's living. It's the second time I went, 148 00:06:14,384 --> 00:06:17,024 Speaker 1: which is so weird because I went the first time. 149 00:06:17,144 --> 00:06:19,064 Speaker 4: They're like, oh, didn't change it up? Do I see 150 00:06:19,184 --> 00:06:19,864 Speaker 4: same paintings? 151 00:06:20,144 --> 00:06:22,064 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, Actually it is a little bit different this 152 00:06:22,104 --> 00:06:23,864 Speaker 1: time around. The First time around, when I went to 153 00:06:23,864 --> 00:06:26,104 Speaker 1: the f Boy Island set, it was just a sea 154 00:06:26,224 --> 00:06:29,064 Speaker 1: of penises as far as the eye could see in 155 00:06:29,104 --> 00:06:31,104 Speaker 1: all the decor and stuff like that. This year they've 156 00:06:31,144 --> 00:06:32,744 Speaker 1: kind of toned that down a bit, which I think 157 00:06:32,784 --> 00:06:36,784 Speaker 1: is a personal shame. But before, but before, I went 158 00:06:36,904 --> 00:06:40,624 Speaker 1: to the villa and had a very lovely, intense, fiery 159 00:06:40,664 --> 00:06:41,024 Speaker 1: chat with. 160 00:06:42,184 --> 00:06:44,744 Speaker 4: Enters, the villain to me, you've. 161 00:06:44,544 --> 00:06:46,544 Speaker 1: Got to switch in their head. They can't turn off 162 00:06:46,944 --> 00:06:48,624 Speaker 1: the being an f boy thing. 163 00:06:48,624 --> 00:06:50,904 Speaker 4: And now especially that we've given them permission to be 164 00:06:51,064 --> 00:06:52,344 Speaker 4: f boys, like it's a whole brain now. 165 00:06:52,424 --> 00:06:55,064 Speaker 1: It's even funnier is that they know you're there. This 166 00:06:55,104 --> 00:06:56,744 Speaker 1: happens to be on a lot of reality sets. They 167 00:06:56,864 --> 00:06:59,784 Speaker 1: know you're there to like cover the show and you know, 168 00:06:59,944 --> 00:07:02,064 Speaker 1: do promo for it, essentially because you're doing interviews and 169 00:07:02,064 --> 00:07:04,664 Speaker 1: they know that you're in media, and it's like they 170 00:07:04,944 --> 00:07:07,064 Speaker 1: zero in on new f boy Island the other sets. 171 00:07:07,104 --> 00:07:08,864 Speaker 1: I go to so many sets and it's always the 172 00:07:08,904 --> 00:07:10,864 Speaker 1: men come up to you on the side. They're like, Hey, 173 00:07:11,104 --> 00:07:12,984 Speaker 1: this isn't my real gig. I'm actually an actor. 174 00:07:13,384 --> 00:07:14,064 Speaker 4: I would love. 175 00:07:16,144 --> 00:07:17,904 Speaker 1: And I would love to and they're like flixing their 176 00:07:17,944 --> 00:07:19,824 Speaker 1: abs and batting their eyelash just because they're so used 177 00:07:19,824 --> 00:07:20,664 Speaker 1: to getting anything they want. 178 00:07:20,664 --> 00:07:22,624 Speaker 4: Would love to send you my portfolio, Yeah. 179 00:07:22,464 --> 00:07:24,144 Speaker 1: Oh, I'd love to like something, come to Sydney, Like 180 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:25,904 Speaker 1: I'd love to like come on your podcast, like talking 181 00:07:25,904 --> 00:07:28,424 Speaker 1: about my acting. And I'm like, sir, this you stay 182 00:07:28,424 --> 00:07:33,144 Speaker 1: away from my micros. Those abs, those eyes do nothing 183 00:07:33,144 --> 00:07:33,464 Speaker 1: for me. 184 00:07:33,544 --> 00:07:35,384 Speaker 4: What do you think how I would react if you 185 00:07:35,424 --> 00:07:38,544 Speaker 4: came in with like five men I like, I don't 186 00:07:38,544 --> 00:07:40,504 Speaker 4: know what happened, but they're on this podcast. 187 00:07:40,264 --> 00:07:41,784 Speaker 3: On the podcast, our new co hosts. 188 00:07:42,064 --> 00:07:43,584 Speaker 1: They're always trying to be like, oh, I'll come over 189 00:07:43,624 --> 00:07:45,264 Speaker 1: here and do an exclusive, like they all want to 190 00:07:45,264 --> 00:07:47,104 Speaker 1: get in on it. But they all look the same 191 00:07:47,144 --> 00:07:48,784 Speaker 1: to me. They're all interchangeable. So I was most of 192 00:07:48,824 --> 00:07:50,264 Speaker 1: there to talk to the women. So I went to 193 00:07:50,304 --> 00:07:53,624 Speaker 1: the women's villa, which was absolutely lovely. They had a pool, 194 00:07:53,664 --> 00:07:55,664 Speaker 1: they had all that was like going through their bedrooms 195 00:07:55,704 --> 00:07:57,984 Speaker 1: and they're like showing stuff. They're like drinks and snacks 196 00:07:57,984 --> 00:07:59,704 Speaker 1: out for It's like this is Barbie's dream house, not 197 00:07:59,784 --> 00:08:00,464 Speaker 1: Can's dream. 198 00:08:00,384 --> 00:08:02,144 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. So when they said it's time to 199 00:08:02,184 --> 00:08:03,384 Speaker 3: go see the man, I'm like, what do we have 200 00:08:03,504 --> 00:08:06,664 Speaker 3: to I want to stay here and to stay here. 201 00:08:06,544 --> 00:08:08,304 Speaker 1: In the girl's villa and hang out with the girls 202 00:08:08,344 --> 00:08:09,824 Speaker 1: because the three one on the show are lovely. So 203 00:08:09,864 --> 00:08:11,944 Speaker 1: we've got Chris Thomas, who people might know if she 204 00:08:12,024 --> 00:08:15,944 Speaker 1: was on the Bachelor's previous season Bachelors, you know when 205 00:08:15,944 --> 00:08:19,264 Speaker 1: they were three white men who yeah, same to me. 206 00:08:20,104 --> 00:08:22,704 Speaker 1: So Allie wood Fall and Nicole Mitrov that make up 207 00:08:22,744 --> 00:08:24,864 Speaker 1: this tree of women. So basically, if you didn't watch 208 00:08:24,864 --> 00:08:27,104 Speaker 1: the first season. You've got the three women and then 209 00:08:27,104 --> 00:08:29,544 Speaker 1: you've got a house full of half f boys and 210 00:08:29,624 --> 00:08:32,464 Speaker 1: half nice boys, and you know it's a secret, like 211 00:08:32,504 --> 00:08:35,184 Speaker 1: who's who? And as they go through they eliminate people, 212 00:08:35,344 --> 00:08:37,824 Speaker 1: they start dating people, and it's this whole thing of 213 00:08:37,864 --> 00:08:39,704 Speaker 1: like the F boys can win money if they trick them. 214 00:08:39,784 --> 00:08:42,304 Speaker 1: It's all very intense, but they're looking to make a 215 00:08:42,384 --> 00:08:45,144 Speaker 1: romantic connection but also to weed out the F boys. 216 00:08:45,384 --> 00:08:48,264 Speaker 4: How do they even figure that out? Because what if 217 00:08:48,344 --> 00:08:50,904 Speaker 4: you tell, like the producers, you're a nice guy and 218 00:08:50,944 --> 00:08:52,624 Speaker 4: that you just start acting like an F boy. 219 00:08:52,744 --> 00:08:54,464 Speaker 1: Well I think that sort of stuff can happen. But 220 00:08:54,504 --> 00:08:56,424 Speaker 1: what's interesting is so we're sitting in this villa, We've 221 00:08:56,424 --> 00:08:58,064 Speaker 1: had a few drinks. I'm chatting to the girls and 222 00:08:58,104 --> 00:08:59,784 Speaker 1: being like, what the hell are you thinking being here? 223 00:09:00,504 --> 00:09:03,384 Speaker 3: Go ahead and live your right now, let's go. You're 224 00:09:03,384 --> 00:09:04,344 Speaker 3: a wit podcast host. 225 00:09:04,424 --> 00:09:06,344 Speaker 1: You can hear behind them, like, there's a minivan out 226 00:09:06,344 --> 00:09:08,344 Speaker 1: there that we came in. I personally can't drive it, 227 00:09:08,544 --> 00:09:10,824 Speaker 1: but we'll, you know, we'll get out of here. What 228 00:09:10,864 --> 00:09:12,224 Speaker 1: they were saying is I was like, how do you 229 00:09:12,264 --> 00:09:14,104 Speaker 1: spot an F boy? And they were like, oh no, 230 00:09:14,424 --> 00:09:15,944 Speaker 1: we're way past that well. 231 00:09:16,344 --> 00:09:19,784 Speaker 5: I like to say there's like three types of F boys. 232 00:09:19,824 --> 00:09:22,544 Speaker 5: So I think there's your textbook F boy that's like 233 00:09:22,984 --> 00:09:24,984 Speaker 5: he'll be in the skinny jeans and he's just a 234 00:09:24,984 --> 00:09:27,984 Speaker 5: bit too good looking. He's got his hairs all slicked, 235 00:09:28,384 --> 00:09:29,824 Speaker 5: he's all slick slicker. 236 00:09:29,904 --> 00:09:31,464 Speaker 3: He looks in the mirror and he's happy. 237 00:09:31,784 --> 00:09:35,944 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So he's obvious. So we spotted those 238 00:09:35,984 --> 00:09:39,064 Speaker 5: ones from the get go, I think. And then you've 239 00:09:39,104 --> 00:09:41,824 Speaker 5: got the second type of F boy that's like kind 240 00:09:41,864 --> 00:09:43,624 Speaker 5: of he's not your obvious. 241 00:09:43,424 --> 00:09:46,584 Speaker 6: Like the radar a little bit, Yeah, does some questionable 242 00:09:46,624 --> 00:09:50,744 Speaker 6: behavior or maybe just a little bit inconsistent with you know, 243 00:09:50,784 --> 00:09:53,344 Speaker 6: there's three of us, so we can compare stories, and 244 00:09:53,384 --> 00:09:55,624 Speaker 6: it's just like they're wearing the mask and they're trying 245 00:09:55,624 --> 00:09:57,224 Speaker 6: to be sneaky, but they're. 246 00:09:57,104 --> 00:09:59,344 Speaker 2: Slipping up my fright and center exactly. 247 00:09:59,504 --> 00:10:02,384 Speaker 5: And then there's like the F boy that's been through something, 248 00:10:02,624 --> 00:10:05,024 Speaker 5: so he's kind of like you feel I feel like 249 00:10:05,064 --> 00:10:06,504 Speaker 5: you feel a bit sorry for the f This F 250 00:10:06,584 --> 00:10:09,264 Speaker 5: boys he's like been hurt in the past and now he's. 251 00:10:09,104 --> 00:10:13,144 Speaker 3: Got like his bad boy F boy jacket. Yes, yeah, 252 00:10:13,424 --> 00:10:15,104 Speaker 3: the dangerous they're the ones. 253 00:10:15,144 --> 00:10:17,384 Speaker 6: To watch they're the ones the way worse because they're 254 00:10:17,384 --> 00:10:20,424 Speaker 6: the ones that manipulate you and then feel like you're 255 00:10:20,464 --> 00:10:20,944 Speaker 6: the problem. 256 00:10:21,224 --> 00:10:24,984 Speaker 4: Yes, the gas lighting, the love bombing, Topsy. 257 00:10:25,784 --> 00:10:28,664 Speaker 2: Took, do the work, do. 258 00:10:28,624 --> 00:10:29,704 Speaker 3: The work to therapy. 259 00:10:29,864 --> 00:10:32,464 Speaker 4: I was very interested because, as you know, I write 260 00:10:32,464 --> 00:10:33,384 Speaker 4: a lot about dating. 261 00:10:33,824 --> 00:10:35,984 Speaker 1: I wanted to hear from this. Do you agree that 262 00:10:36,024 --> 00:10:37,504 Speaker 1: those three types around in the wild? 263 00:10:37,784 --> 00:10:38,424 Speaker 3: I agree. 264 00:10:38,584 --> 00:10:41,384 Speaker 4: I think these women are extremely smart. I think they 265 00:10:41,424 --> 00:10:43,624 Speaker 4: picked the right candidates for this job, and I think 266 00:10:43,664 --> 00:10:46,744 Speaker 4: they can execute it perfectly. I agree there are three 267 00:10:46,824 --> 00:10:51,104 Speaker 4: types of f boys, Except after dissecting everything they said, 268 00:10:51,264 --> 00:10:52,704 Speaker 4: I have found two more. 269 00:10:53,104 --> 00:10:55,104 Speaker 3: Oh god, what are they even ring with us right now? 270 00:10:58,944 --> 00:11:00,944 Speaker 4: The two that I want to bring up that they 271 00:11:01,024 --> 00:11:03,504 Speaker 4: haven't covered. So hopefully they listen to this and take 272 00:11:03,504 --> 00:11:06,624 Speaker 4: that on with them into the villa. The secret f boy. 273 00:11:07,384 --> 00:11:11,464 Speaker 4: So this is the guy who, with everyone else that 274 00:11:11,544 --> 00:11:14,304 Speaker 4: he's not dating or attracted to or in a relationship with, 275 00:11:14,464 --> 00:11:18,104 Speaker 4: he looks like a normal person. It's usually your best 276 00:11:18,144 --> 00:11:19,744 Speaker 4: friend's boyfriend's best friend. 277 00:11:19,984 --> 00:11:21,544 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that guy. 278 00:11:21,664 --> 00:11:23,864 Speaker 4: It's only when like your friend sets you up with 279 00:11:23,944 --> 00:11:25,784 Speaker 4: him and it's like she's he's a great guy. Like 280 00:11:25,824 --> 00:11:29,584 Speaker 4: you'll get on really well. And then you're like, Jennifer. 281 00:11:29,504 --> 00:11:31,384 Speaker 3: What the hell he's that boy? 282 00:11:31,464 --> 00:11:32,584 Speaker 1: This guy is an F boy. 283 00:11:32,664 --> 00:11:35,104 Speaker 4: And then Jennifer's like, I had no idea. 284 00:11:34,944 --> 00:11:37,024 Speaker 3: Because he's nice to her because she's not in the game. 285 00:11:37,304 --> 00:11:39,624 Speaker 4: She's not in the game. So these are the secret 286 00:11:39,704 --> 00:11:42,064 Speaker 4: F boys. The other one is one that you kind 287 00:11:42,064 --> 00:11:43,344 Speaker 4: of touched on, the nice guy. 288 00:11:43,824 --> 00:11:46,784 Speaker 1: Yeah, so these are the guy boys. 289 00:11:46,824 --> 00:11:49,544 Speaker 4: So it's like an F boy who's like, why don't 290 00:11:49,584 --> 00:11:51,944 Speaker 4: girls like me? I'm such a nice guy. Girls never 291 00:11:52,064 --> 00:11:54,304 Speaker 4: like nice guys. They love F boys. I'm like, no, 292 00:11:54,664 --> 00:11:56,624 Speaker 4: the way that you're saying that makes you an F 293 00:11:56,704 --> 00:11:58,824 Speaker 4: boy because you're not actually a nice guy. You're just 294 00:11:58,864 --> 00:12:00,744 Speaker 4: pretending to be a nice guy. He's the kind of 295 00:12:00,744 --> 00:12:03,944 Speaker 4: guy who's like, oh, I'm like always buying girls flowers. 296 00:12:03,984 --> 00:12:05,224 Speaker 4: I'm always doing the right thing. 297 00:12:05,744 --> 00:12:08,464 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'll never expect It's like emotional manipulation, like 298 00:12:08,504 --> 00:12:09,984 Speaker 1: I'm always there, they need me, I'll do this. 299 00:12:10,344 --> 00:12:10,824 Speaker 3: It'll be like I. 300 00:12:10,824 --> 00:12:12,824 Speaker 1: Thought we were just friends. And then they get angry 301 00:12:12,824 --> 00:12:14,264 Speaker 1: if you won't sleep with them yes, and. 302 00:12:14,184 --> 00:12:15,624 Speaker 4: They're like, well you're ugly anyway. 303 00:12:15,784 --> 00:12:18,464 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, nothing will lash out like a soft 304 00:12:18,544 --> 00:12:19,624 Speaker 1: F boy. 305 00:12:19,664 --> 00:12:20,784 Speaker 3: They get wounded quickly. 306 00:12:20,904 --> 00:12:23,104 Speaker 4: So I just have a word of advice for these 307 00:12:23,144 --> 00:12:25,664 Speaker 4: three women. Take those extra two on board because they're 308 00:12:25,704 --> 00:12:26,864 Speaker 4: out there, Nana. 309 00:12:28,224 --> 00:12:30,464 Speaker 1: So, after I sadly left the girls Villa, I had 310 00:12:30,544 --> 00:12:33,544 Speaker 1: to go to the formal f Boy mansion where the 311 00:12:33,584 --> 00:12:36,944 Speaker 1: boys live, and I saw some things that cannot be unseen. Sorry, 312 00:12:36,944 --> 00:12:39,864 Speaker 1: I see the abs. I saw just things that happen 313 00:12:39,904 --> 00:12:41,744 Speaker 1: when a lot of boys lived together. But in the 314 00:12:41,744 --> 00:12:43,224 Speaker 1: midst of that, I sat down with the host of 315 00:12:43,224 --> 00:12:46,584 Speaker 1: the show, Abby Chatfield. We talked about the one type 316 00:12:46,624 --> 00:12:49,784 Speaker 1: of behavior she does not tolerate on set. We talked 317 00:12:49,824 --> 00:12:52,624 Speaker 1: about the backlash from season one and how that shaped 318 00:12:52,664 --> 00:12:55,304 Speaker 1: season two, and we also talked about the main thing 319 00:12:55,304 --> 00:12:56,904 Speaker 1: people are going to take away from the show. So 320 00:12:57,144 --> 00:13:00,144 Speaker 1: this is Abby Chatfield, host of f Boy Island. 321 00:13:00,384 --> 00:13:01,864 Speaker 3: So ABBI, welcome back to the Spill. 322 00:13:02,264 --> 00:13:02,744 Speaker 2: Thank you. 323 00:13:03,264 --> 00:13:05,184 Speaker 1: So I ventured back into f Boy Island. I was 324 00:13:05,224 --> 00:13:07,984 Speaker 1: here last year. Some moments burnt into my brain. I 325 00:13:07,984 --> 00:13:10,624 Speaker 1: have memory of a couple of millly naked men running 326 00:13:10,624 --> 00:13:13,784 Speaker 1: around water fights, pillow fights all their home. 327 00:13:13,864 --> 00:13:16,864 Speaker 7: Actually it is really beautiful in a foil and to 328 00:13:16,904 --> 00:13:19,544 Speaker 7: really foster a positive environment for the boys. 329 00:13:19,344 --> 00:13:21,384 Speaker 1: We're in the same location a group of boys and 330 00:13:21,384 --> 00:13:23,864 Speaker 1: a group of women. What's the biggest difference from your 331 00:13:23,864 --> 00:13:24,904 Speaker 1: point of view this year? 332 00:13:25,024 --> 00:13:27,584 Speaker 7: Honestly, this isn't very like juicy or interesting, but I 333 00:13:27,584 --> 00:13:28,544 Speaker 7: think it's on set. 334 00:13:29,144 --> 00:13:32,624 Speaker 2: Everyone is understanding the tone much more. 335 00:13:32,704 --> 00:13:35,024 Speaker 7: I think last year it was hard for some of 336 00:13:35,064 --> 00:13:37,264 Speaker 7: the guys, particularly the f boys that have like big 337 00:13:37,304 --> 00:13:40,464 Speaker 7: egos and didn't think women should speak, having a female 338 00:13:40,504 --> 00:13:42,864 Speaker 7: host making fun of them every chance I got, like, 339 00:13:42,904 --> 00:13:44,464 Speaker 7: I just scanned them and say who can I make 340 00:13:44,504 --> 00:13:44,784 Speaker 7: fun of? 341 00:13:44,784 --> 00:13:45,024 Speaker 1: Today? 342 00:13:45,144 --> 00:13:46,864 Speaker 2: My brain like, I go, what joke can I make 343 00:13:46,864 --> 00:13:49,304 Speaker 2: from this? They hadn't seen the fun of products. They 344 00:13:49,304 --> 00:13:50,464 Speaker 2: weren't like I'm doing. 345 00:13:50,224 --> 00:13:52,784 Speaker 7: It knowing what the edit will look like a bit 346 00:13:52,824 --> 00:13:54,544 Speaker 7: you know, understand like, oh this could be a good 347 00:13:54,544 --> 00:13:55,544 Speaker 7: option for the producers. 348 00:13:56,064 --> 00:13:57,464 Speaker 2: But they weren't getting that. 349 00:13:58,024 --> 00:14:01,344 Speaker 7: So they were getting genuinely insulted, and only in the 350 00:14:01,424 --> 00:14:04,024 Speaker 7: last couple of days they really get it, whereas this 351 00:14:04,104 --> 00:14:08,464 Speaker 7: year they're coming off about completely understanding. They're getting excited 352 00:14:08,504 --> 00:14:11,024 Speaker 7: when I insult them. It's like they're little, like they're 353 00:14:11,064 --> 00:14:13,384 Speaker 7: just so thrilled to be insulted by me, which I love, 354 00:14:13,424 --> 00:14:15,304 Speaker 7: and they're gonna be banter back. So then the show's 355 00:14:15,304 --> 00:14:18,704 Speaker 7: gonna be way funnier this year because the guys understand 356 00:14:18,784 --> 00:14:20,624 Speaker 7: which the guys last year had no way to understand 357 00:14:20,664 --> 00:14:22,024 Speaker 7: because I couldn't have watched it before. 358 00:14:22,064 --> 00:14:23,904 Speaker 1: Do you get the sense that they studied last season 359 00:14:23,944 --> 00:14:26,224 Speaker 1: and they're kind of looking for ways to get around 360 00:14:26,224 --> 00:14:26,664 Speaker 1: the system. 361 00:14:26,864 --> 00:14:27,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they are. 362 00:14:28,064 --> 00:14:31,584 Speaker 7: They're definitely smarter than last year. They're tricking more tricking 363 00:14:31,664 --> 00:14:34,384 Speaker 7: me than last year. And I think the girls as well. 364 00:14:34,384 --> 00:14:35,384 Speaker 2: But the girls are also. 365 00:14:35,184 --> 00:14:38,304 Speaker 7: Smarter because they're doing like the guys are playing checkers, 366 00:14:38,304 --> 00:14:40,584 Speaker 7: they're playing chess, you know, like the guys think they 367 00:14:40,784 --> 00:14:43,664 Speaker 7: are doing something smart, and the girls are talking to 368 00:14:43,704 --> 00:14:46,184 Speaker 7: more than one guy. I think they're even like dating 369 00:14:46,224 --> 00:14:48,144 Speaker 7: more than one of the guys to see how he 370 00:14:48,184 --> 00:14:50,064 Speaker 7: acts with certain like they're actually being like, you know, 371 00:14:50,144 --> 00:14:52,624 Speaker 7: guys played the field and see what happens. So the 372 00:14:52,664 --> 00:14:56,424 Speaker 7: guys are definitely smarter, but I think that the girls. 373 00:14:56,144 --> 00:14:56,664 Speaker 2: Are as well. 374 00:14:56,984 --> 00:14:59,384 Speaker 1: And when you first met the male contestants, and I 375 00:14:59,424 --> 00:15:01,184 Speaker 1: know that you're kind of aware of who's who, but 376 00:15:01,224 --> 00:15:03,104 Speaker 1: were the ones that you're picking out already? Of like 377 00:15:03,304 --> 00:15:04,904 Speaker 1: I know that you're going to be more of a player, 378 00:15:04,984 --> 00:15:06,064 Speaker 1: or I know that you're going to be might be 379 00:15:06,064 --> 00:15:07,784 Speaker 1: here till the end, because I know the girls are 380 00:15:07,824 --> 00:15:10,144 Speaker 1: seeing that they already feel like they're starting to fall 381 00:15:10,144 --> 00:15:12,144 Speaker 1: in love with a few guys, and they're like, it's 382 00:15:12,144 --> 00:15:15,184 Speaker 1: too early, and I said, no, no, it's such a concentrated environment, 383 00:15:15,664 --> 00:15:17,744 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure one date here feels like five dates 384 00:15:17,744 --> 00:15:18,384 Speaker 1: in the real world. 385 00:15:18,544 --> 00:15:20,184 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. I mean being on the Bachelor. 386 00:15:20,384 --> 00:15:23,144 Speaker 7: The way I describe it to people is on these dates, 387 00:15:23,184 --> 00:15:26,464 Speaker 7: you have no phone and you don't have any distraction 388 00:15:26,544 --> 00:15:28,064 Speaker 7: of even like what do you want to get for 389 00:15:28,104 --> 00:15:29,224 Speaker 7: dinner or where do you want to go of It 390 00:15:29,344 --> 00:15:29,664 Speaker 7: is none. 391 00:15:29,584 --> 00:15:30,544 Speaker 2: Of that bullshit chat. 392 00:15:30,544 --> 00:15:33,864 Speaker 7: It's literally just sit down and talk about how you feel, 393 00:15:33,864 --> 00:15:36,544 Speaker 7: what your life goes up, what your values are. You 394 00:15:36,584 --> 00:15:38,944 Speaker 7: can get deeper pretty quickly. So yeah, it makes sense 395 00:15:38,944 --> 00:15:41,344 Speaker 7: of falling in love. I think I know who each 396 00:15:41,344 --> 00:15:43,744 Speaker 7: of them are get a pick wow. But I think 397 00:15:43,744 --> 00:15:46,584 Speaker 7: that also is me wanting them to pick certain ones 398 00:15:46,664 --> 00:15:49,584 Speaker 7: and projecting it onto them. I do have my favorites, 399 00:15:49,624 --> 00:15:52,224 Speaker 7: so I really like and I also have my least 400 00:15:52,264 --> 00:15:55,944 Speaker 7: favorites who My number one pet peeve that it is 401 00:15:55,984 --> 00:15:59,944 Speaker 7: a hate is when contestants are rude to crewe like, 402 00:15:59,984 --> 00:16:03,984 Speaker 7: it really really makes me upset because our crew. This 403 00:16:04,064 --> 00:16:05,864 Speaker 7: sounds like a company line, but our crew are actually 404 00:16:05,904 --> 00:16:07,744 Speaker 7: the best. Like I've known them since Bachelor. A lot 405 00:16:07,784 --> 00:16:11,104 Speaker 7: of them is Warner Brothers sole to be rude to 406 00:16:11,104 --> 00:16:13,024 Speaker 7: people like that I've worked with so long that I 407 00:16:13,144 --> 00:16:15,744 Speaker 7: really care about, because they think that they contestants. 408 00:16:15,744 --> 00:16:18,024 Speaker 2: They're in front of camera and they're better than the 409 00:16:18,104 --> 00:16:19,904 Speaker 2: crew who were getting them. 410 00:16:19,744 --> 00:16:21,744 Speaker 7: Water or who are doing their makeup, or who were 411 00:16:21,744 --> 00:16:25,064 Speaker 7: telling them where to go, like ads or producers, and 412 00:16:25,104 --> 00:16:27,864 Speaker 7: they think they're out smarting the show. I go, you've 413 00:16:27,864 --> 00:16:31,024 Speaker 7: got a fucking ego on you like you. Some of 414 00:16:31,024 --> 00:16:33,504 Speaker 7: them are looking at me like I'm stupid when we're 415 00:16:33,504 --> 00:16:37,064 Speaker 7: doing things like repositioning cameras, they think they know or 416 00:16:37,144 --> 00:16:38,904 Speaker 7: try and beat me to a punchline and I go, 417 00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:40,184 Speaker 7: you have no idea. 418 00:16:39,984 --> 00:16:42,384 Speaker 2: What's going on here? So it annoys me when their 419 00:16:42,424 --> 00:16:43,184 Speaker 2: ego you know what I mean? 420 00:16:43,744 --> 00:16:45,304 Speaker 1: Was that a scene in last year's show where you 421 00:16:45,304 --> 00:16:46,944 Speaker 1: were saying to them, guys, don't do it, don't hug 422 00:16:47,024 --> 00:16:49,384 Speaker 1: each other? Yeah, why because the crew is going to 423 00:16:49,424 --> 00:16:51,024 Speaker 1: have to reset And they did it anyway, And I 424 00:16:51,024 --> 00:16:53,144 Speaker 1: know that became a big chat on your Instagram of 425 00:16:53,384 --> 00:16:55,264 Speaker 1: people being like, let them hug and you say no, no, 426 00:16:55,664 --> 00:16:57,784 Speaker 1: you're seeing a hug. But that's going to make sure 427 00:16:57,904 --> 00:16:59,864 Speaker 1: all these people get home so late now. 428 00:16:59,824 --> 00:17:01,424 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we've been there since seven am and 429 00:17:01,464 --> 00:17:02,344 Speaker 7: it was almost midnight. 430 00:17:02,784 --> 00:17:03,944 Speaker 2: This happens a lot on this show. 431 00:17:03,984 --> 00:17:07,424 Speaker 7: Reality is very it's very different to any other thing 432 00:17:07,704 --> 00:17:09,384 Speaker 7: that even like a game show. With a game show, 433 00:17:09,424 --> 00:17:11,824 Speaker 7: you have a general idea of how long it's going 434 00:17:11,904 --> 00:17:14,504 Speaker 7: to take. With reality, if something's going well, we just 435 00:17:15,144 --> 00:17:17,504 Speaker 7: the producer just let it go or encourage it, or 436 00:17:18,144 --> 00:17:19,864 Speaker 7: you know, we don't know how long something's going to take. 437 00:17:19,864 --> 00:17:22,304 Speaker 7: Eliminations could take an hour, they could take three hours 438 00:17:22,344 --> 00:17:25,184 Speaker 7: because there could be a really good thing, the silly 439 00:17:25,264 --> 00:17:27,304 Speaker 7: thing that happens, or honestly, the other night it almost 440 00:17:27,384 --> 00:17:29,704 Speaker 7: rained middle elimination. If that happens, we have to fucking 441 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:33,704 Speaker 7: start again. So it's like with these things. I think 442 00:17:33,784 --> 00:17:36,504 Speaker 7: that was an indicative of people really not caring about 443 00:17:36,504 --> 00:17:40,384 Speaker 7: people's time. And I'd said even before that, I'd said, calmly, guys, 444 00:17:40,384 --> 00:17:42,864 Speaker 7: don't get up. I'd told them, do not stand up, please, 445 00:17:42,864 --> 00:17:45,064 Speaker 7: do not hug people. Also, you've been here for a 446 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:48,624 Speaker 7: fucking day, like genuinely likes well, because I also think 447 00:17:48,704 --> 00:17:51,864 Speaker 7: that their motivations in that moment is to get more 448 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:54,144 Speaker 7: screen time. I don't think you actually are upset, Like 449 00:17:54,224 --> 00:17:57,144 Speaker 7: I don't think you can be after three days here 450 00:17:57,664 --> 00:17:59,584 Speaker 7: on a show where we're filming all. 451 00:17:59,544 --> 00:18:01,984 Speaker 2: Day every day. Like I just don't think that's real. 452 00:18:02,224 --> 00:18:04,024 Speaker 7: I think that what you're doing is trying to like 453 00:18:04,184 --> 00:18:06,904 Speaker 7: be the emotional guy on camera, and all you're doing. 454 00:18:06,744 --> 00:18:09,504 Speaker 2: Is fucking over the crew. And I'm part of the crew. 455 00:18:09,504 --> 00:18:11,864 Speaker 7: I've also been HEAs and even o'clock, my feet are 456 00:18:11,864 --> 00:18:14,864 Speaker 7: fucking hurting, And I also have told you, And I 457 00:18:14,904 --> 00:18:18,864 Speaker 7: think my issue with it is to protect the crew, because, 458 00:18:19,744 --> 00:18:22,264 Speaker 7: like I said, our crew were genuinely the fucking best. 459 00:18:23,104 --> 00:18:26,744 Speaker 7: But like even just I do think that those men, 460 00:18:26,824 --> 00:18:28,744 Speaker 7: if it was a male host, they would have listened 461 00:18:28,744 --> 00:18:29,344 Speaker 7: to him on set. 462 00:18:29,384 --> 00:18:30,624 Speaker 2: It's really irritates me. 463 00:18:31,184 --> 00:18:33,384 Speaker 7: For example, this hasn't actually happened, but just as an example, 464 00:18:33,384 --> 00:18:35,424 Speaker 7: they will do things like I don't know anyone, but 465 00:18:35,424 --> 00:18:39,704 Speaker 7: they'll do things like eat a prop apple. They'll say 466 00:18:39,704 --> 00:18:41,264 Speaker 7: can I eat this? And I'll go no, and they'll 467 00:18:41,264 --> 00:18:44,704 Speaker 7: do it anyway. And I'm like, I'm actually here to 468 00:18:44,744 --> 00:18:46,304 Speaker 7: run the show, like when I'm on the floor, I'm 469 00:18:46,344 --> 00:18:48,064 Speaker 7: here to make sure things happen so that no one 470 00:18:48,064 --> 00:18:49,824 Speaker 7: else has to talk to you guys, So we aren't 471 00:18:49,824 --> 00:18:53,224 Speaker 7: stopping the flow and they aren't respecting me as part 472 00:18:53,264 --> 00:18:53,784 Speaker 7: of the crew. 473 00:18:53,904 --> 00:18:55,584 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? It really does. 474 00:18:55,704 --> 00:18:57,064 Speaker 7: And I think it's a bit of misogyny, a little 475 00:18:57,064 --> 00:18:59,584 Speaker 7: bit of them not seeing women as authoritative. I think 476 00:18:59,624 --> 00:19:01,584 Speaker 7: it's like they literally ignore me to the point where 477 00:19:01,584 --> 00:19:04,024 Speaker 7: I have to be yelling, going please fucking don't, because 478 00:19:05,024 --> 00:19:07,264 Speaker 7: it's like they think that I don't know what's going. 479 00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:09,464 Speaker 2: On right now. I'm the fucking host. 480 00:19:09,824 --> 00:19:11,744 Speaker 7: They think that I'm just there, I'm pretty aming walkorn, 481 00:19:11,824 --> 00:19:13,504 Speaker 7: not that I have meetings with producers, and also not 482 00:19:13,504 --> 00:19:16,784 Speaker 7: that I understand how TV works and I shouldn't have 483 00:19:16,824 --> 00:19:19,344 Speaker 7: to explain to you if you stand up, we have 484 00:19:19,384 --> 00:19:21,784 Speaker 7: to reposition all these cameras because actually it isn't relevant 485 00:19:21,784 --> 00:19:23,384 Speaker 7: to you. What you should take me is that my 486 00:19:23,424 --> 00:19:25,984 Speaker 7: word of being like, don't stand up, because that's and 487 00:19:25,984 --> 00:19:26,744 Speaker 7: that should be enough. 488 00:19:27,064 --> 00:19:28,984 Speaker 2: They want to like prove that I'm wrong or like 489 00:19:29,264 --> 00:19:30,184 Speaker 2: I can do what I want. 490 00:19:30,304 --> 00:19:32,424 Speaker 7: Like it's fucking embarrassing for them to be honest, and 491 00:19:32,464 --> 00:19:34,824 Speaker 7: those people, no one likes being around. 492 00:19:34,664 --> 00:19:37,104 Speaker 1: Them, so they're the one standing at the end. 493 00:19:37,504 --> 00:19:39,384 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same as being rude to a waiter. 494 00:19:39,504 --> 00:19:40,504 Speaker 2: That's it's the same shit. 495 00:19:40,784 --> 00:19:43,304 Speaker 1: It's like that's when like reality TV and real life 496 00:19:43,344 --> 00:19:44,944 Speaker 1: kind of intersex because if you're on a date with someone, 497 00:19:44,984 --> 00:19:46,664 Speaker 1: they're nice to you, but then they're rude to the 498 00:19:46,704 --> 00:19:48,704 Speaker 1: bartender or the driver, it's a red flag. And I'm 499 00:19:48,704 --> 00:19:51,024 Speaker 1: assuming here with the crew that's the same thing totally. 500 00:19:51,064 --> 00:19:53,104 Speaker 7: It's like if you're on a date with someone and 501 00:19:53,144 --> 00:19:55,744 Speaker 7: a security guard you ask nicely to like move away 502 00:19:55,744 --> 00:19:58,104 Speaker 7: from an entrance or something or something like that, and 503 00:19:58,224 --> 00:19:59,104 Speaker 7: they try and arc up. 504 00:19:59,104 --> 00:20:01,784 Speaker 2: It's like that person just doing their job. Listen to them. 505 00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:03,224 Speaker 2: They don't need to give you a reason as to why. 506 00:20:03,304 --> 00:20:06,184 Speaker 7: Like it's very questioning authority, but I think really with 507 00:20:06,304 --> 00:20:10,544 Speaker 7: some of these men, they're questioning female authority and it. Yeah, 508 00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:13,624 Speaker 7: and also people don't understand with that day, like we're 509 00:20:13,624 --> 00:20:16,584 Speaker 7: not just feeling one seventeen hour day. We're filming almost 510 00:20:16,624 --> 00:20:19,624 Speaker 7: every day for ten hours. We get excited that it's short. 511 00:20:19,704 --> 00:20:23,104 Speaker 7: So these crew are carrying around cameras, like few of 512 00:20:23,184 --> 00:20:24,984 Speaker 7: the camera guys and the sound guys and everyone, but 513 00:20:24,984 --> 00:20:26,624 Speaker 7: they fucking exhausted. 514 00:20:26,664 --> 00:20:28,984 Speaker 2: It's also like thirty five degrees. The rains are coming, 515 00:20:29,304 --> 00:20:30,184 Speaker 2: fucking just sit down. 516 00:20:30,504 --> 00:20:32,424 Speaker 1: I think that undercurrent of misogyny has been one of 517 00:20:32,424 --> 00:20:34,784 Speaker 1: the most interesting things about watching the show, especially in 518 00:20:34,824 --> 00:20:37,744 Speaker 1: the first season, because I know when it was first announced, 519 00:20:37,744 --> 00:20:39,864 Speaker 1: a lot of people were just like, this sounds problematic 520 00:20:39,944 --> 00:20:42,184 Speaker 1: and you're putting women in danger by putting them with 521 00:20:42,664 --> 00:20:44,504 Speaker 1: f boys. I know you said were saying at the time, like, 522 00:20:44,584 --> 00:20:46,624 Speaker 1: just watch the show. That's not what it's about. And 523 00:20:46,664 --> 00:20:49,024 Speaker 1: as it came out, there were all these interesting conversations, 524 00:20:49,024 --> 00:20:51,704 Speaker 1: like we ran pieces on our site saying like this 525 00:20:51,864 --> 00:20:53,824 Speaker 1: is how you can tell that men are like acting 526 00:20:53,864 --> 00:20:56,504 Speaker 1: differently in society now, or like where their mental health 527 00:20:56,504 --> 00:20:58,344 Speaker 1: and their state is and all that sort of stuff. 528 00:20:58,584 --> 00:20:59,824 Speaker 1: Do you think that people are going to react to 529 00:20:59,864 --> 00:21:01,904 Speaker 1: the show differently this time around, because now we know 530 00:21:01,944 --> 00:21:05,064 Speaker 1: what it's about, we know the conversations it can ignite, 531 00:21:05,104 --> 00:21:06,824 Speaker 1: and what that's going to mean for our like for 532 00:21:06,864 --> 00:21:07,984 Speaker 1: Australian conversations. 533 00:21:08,064 --> 00:21:09,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think so. 534 00:21:10,024 --> 00:21:12,144 Speaker 7: I feel I think that we've even had conversations with 535 00:21:12,424 --> 00:21:15,704 Speaker 7: the writer Sophie is amazing and produces about how we 536 00:21:15,744 --> 00:21:18,264 Speaker 7: can kind of do a bit more, push things a 537 00:21:18,264 --> 00:21:20,624 Speaker 7: bit more. I think be a bit sillier almost, because 538 00:21:20,744 --> 00:21:22,704 Speaker 7: we're not trying to prove the intentions of the show 539 00:21:22,784 --> 00:21:25,144 Speaker 7: because people know it now. And I think as well, 540 00:21:25,544 --> 00:21:27,504 Speaker 7: like I said at the time, in terms of f 541 00:21:27,584 --> 00:21:30,424 Speaker 7: Boy Island putting them in danger, I mean shows like 542 00:21:30,504 --> 00:21:33,584 Speaker 7: Maths and Bachelor, they are all there for the quote 543 00:21:33,624 --> 00:21:36,504 Speaker 7: unquote same reason here. The point is to call them out, 544 00:21:36,504 --> 00:21:38,224 Speaker 7: and the point is to question who they are. 545 00:21:38,304 --> 00:21:40,424 Speaker 2: So let's be honest. No one watch. 546 00:21:40,264 --> 00:21:43,304 Speaker 7: Reality TV if everyone was nice and happy, like Real Housewives. 547 00:21:43,304 --> 00:21:45,864 Speaker 2: I see comments people going why are they fighting so much? 548 00:21:45,944 --> 00:21:48,664 Speaker 7: I'm like, you would watch people having a nice dinner, 549 00:21:48,824 --> 00:21:52,184 Speaker 7: I fucking wouldn't, Like, let's be honest with ourselves. There 550 00:21:52,184 --> 00:21:54,544 Speaker 7: needs to be some sort of conflict or drama, and 551 00:21:54,584 --> 00:21:57,264 Speaker 7: I think this show encourages the conflict in drama, but 552 00:21:57,304 --> 00:22:00,224 Speaker 7: in a productive way, rather than it being like the 553 00:22:00,264 --> 00:22:02,504 Speaker 7: audience are seeing things like that hideous creature on. 554 00:22:02,504 --> 00:22:06,504 Speaker 1: Maps Jack, Yeah, so that's actually scary, yeah, exactly to 555 00:22:06,544 --> 00:22:08,904 Speaker 1: watching it for entertainment. Whereas here with the girls, you 556 00:22:08,904 --> 00:22:10,664 Speaker 1: see that they I mean they had the pretty juices 557 00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:13,104 Speaker 1: in you, but also having each other. I feel other 558 00:22:13,184 --> 00:22:15,904 Speaker 1: reality shows where you're dating or you're trying to date 559 00:22:15,904 --> 00:22:18,384 Speaker 1: the same person. Everyone seems very isolated, but yeah, you 560 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:20,904 Speaker 1: already have this really intense bond that I think would 561 00:22:20,904 --> 00:22:21,544 Speaker 1: get you through. 562 00:22:21,384 --> 00:22:22,344 Speaker 2: And they can back to the RUP. 563 00:22:22,464 --> 00:22:25,184 Speaker 7: And honestly, in terms of the producers as well, like 564 00:22:25,224 --> 00:22:29,984 Speaker 7: the conversations naturally for this show are more critical of 565 00:22:30,024 --> 00:22:31,984 Speaker 7: the men and saying no, no, no, that actually wasn't okay 566 00:22:31,984 --> 00:22:34,384 Speaker 7: what he did to you, just then call him out 567 00:22:34,504 --> 00:22:35,984 Speaker 7: or talk to him about it, Whereas I feel like 568 00:22:35,984 --> 00:22:38,344 Speaker 7: on other shows that I've been on or that I 569 00:22:38,504 --> 00:22:41,424 Speaker 7: know others have been on, it's more like turner, no, no, 570 00:22:41,464 --> 00:22:43,144 Speaker 7: we want you to stay for the show, like a 571 00:22:43,224 --> 00:22:44,824 Speaker 7: marrak At first, like you only have one option. You 572 00:22:44,824 --> 00:22:46,464 Speaker 7: either stay or you go, and if you want the drama, 573 00:22:46,544 --> 00:22:49,144 Speaker 7: you have to stay. That's just my i'd obviously I'm 574 00:22:49,184 --> 00:22:50,464 Speaker 7: not at a producer on that. I don't know what 575 00:22:50,464 --> 00:22:53,184 Speaker 7: they actually do, but I can imagine it'd be more 576 00:22:53,224 --> 00:22:55,264 Speaker 7: like no, no, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Where it's here, 577 00:22:55,304 --> 00:22:57,624 Speaker 7: it's the opposite. It's like, did you actually like that 578 00:22:57,664 --> 00:22:59,504 Speaker 7: he did that? Are you sure you're okay with it? 579 00:23:00,064 --> 00:23:02,424 Speaker 7: And it's for the better of the show. Obviously, It's 580 00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:05,904 Speaker 7: not purely just altruistic, but it's also like, I think 581 00:23:05,904 --> 00:23:07,784 Speaker 7: it's good. I think we're questioning these men, and I'm 582 00:23:07,824 --> 00:23:10,704 Speaker 7: constantly questioning these men and saying things like like I 583 00:23:10,704 --> 00:23:13,584 Speaker 7: will say to their faces, how incredibly fucking rude that was? 584 00:23:13,704 --> 00:23:16,144 Speaker 2: Like I will just we're encouraged to do it. 585 00:23:16,184 --> 00:23:18,864 Speaker 7: So I think, Look, it's not fucking like I said, 586 00:23:18,864 --> 00:23:20,584 Speaker 7: it's not a fucking Louis throw documentary. 587 00:23:20,664 --> 00:23:21,704 Speaker 2: That was my line last year. 588 00:23:22,504 --> 00:23:25,184 Speaker 7: But it's it's kind of like Barbie a little bit, 589 00:23:25,224 --> 00:23:28,904 Speaker 7: where it's like, will really progressive educated feminists. 590 00:23:28,504 --> 00:23:32,104 Speaker 2: Learning thing the show? Probably fucking not? Can I enjoy it? Yes? 591 00:23:32,424 --> 00:23:34,704 Speaker 7: I think it's more for the general public that kind 592 00:23:34,704 --> 00:23:37,984 Speaker 7: of like middle ground that are getting used to ideas 593 00:23:38,224 --> 00:23:42,504 Speaker 7: about patriarchy and about questioning how men relate in relationships. 594 00:23:42,544 --> 00:23:44,104 Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the goal. 595 00:23:44,704 --> 00:23:48,024 Speaker 4: When you met the guys, could you straight away tell 596 00:23:48,064 --> 00:23:49,464 Speaker 4: which ones were the f boys? 597 00:23:49,704 --> 00:23:51,624 Speaker 1: There's one or two I could definitely tell with the 598 00:23:51,704 --> 00:23:53,464 Speaker 1: nice guys. But the funny thing about like the first 599 00:23:53,464 --> 00:23:55,704 Speaker 1: time I went, is that they said to us like, 600 00:23:55,784 --> 00:23:58,464 Speaker 1: don't print this, but these are the nice guys and 601 00:23:58,504 --> 00:23:59,984 Speaker 1: these are the f boys. And I was like, I 602 00:24:00,064 --> 00:24:03,024 Speaker 1: cannot tell, Like I will not pass an information or 603 00:24:03,064 --> 00:24:04,744 Speaker 1: not just because I signed an FDA, but I will 604 00:24:04,784 --> 00:24:06,944 Speaker 1: think when they are no, but when they are all together, 605 00:24:07,024 --> 00:24:08,944 Speaker 1: it's like they all become f boys in the way 606 00:24:08,944 --> 00:24:09,664 Speaker 1: they talk to each other. 607 00:24:09,664 --> 00:24:11,784 Speaker 3: There's definitely some guys in there. Interesting. 608 00:24:12,224 --> 00:24:14,504 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 609 00:24:14,664 --> 00:24:17,504 Speaker 4: If you love f for Island Chat, we'll be posting 610 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:20,064 Speaker 4: some of that interview on our Instagram feed as well 611 00:24:20,064 --> 00:24:23,624 Speaker 4: as the girls on our Instagram page at the Spill Podcast. 612 00:24:23,824 --> 00:24:26,064 Speaker 4: So you can watch Laura really get into it. You 613 00:24:26,104 --> 00:24:28,144 Speaker 4: can be like, oh, yep, she's really into it. This 614 00:24:28,184 --> 00:24:30,224 Speaker 4: is more of a conversation that I'm looking into Laura's 615 00:24:30,264 --> 00:24:32,264 Speaker 4: personal life. But you know what, I watch it. I 616 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:34,224 Speaker 4: was happy to be there. I loved it. We will 617 00:24:34,224 --> 00:24:36,184 Speaker 4: pop that on our feed. Go give it a like, 618 00:24:36,264 --> 00:24:38,264 Speaker 4: give us a follow, give us a comment. We want 619 00:24:38,264 --> 00:24:40,344 Speaker 4: to know your thoughts. We will see you back here 620 00:24:40,344 --> 00:24:42,224 Speaker 4: in your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. 621 00:24:42,344 --> 00:24:44,824 Speaker 3: Bye bye bye