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Speaker 2: There is going to be someone or some group of

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Speaker 3: But I feel so much better after I let it go.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't a waste of work, It wasn't a

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Seas the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 4: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 4: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 4: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 4: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 4: explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore,

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Speaker 4: the good, bad and ugly, The best and worst day

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Speaker 4: will bear all the facets of seizing your yay. I'm

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Speaker 4: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 4: found matcha Maiden and matcha milkbar Cza is a series

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Speaker 4: of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring

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Speaker 4: the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way.

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Speaker 4: I have been busting to share this week's episode with you, guys,

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Speaker 4: and if you've run into me at all since I

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Speaker 4: all about their lives is one of my very favorite things,

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Speaker 4: and these two are so fascinating, both separately and together.

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Speaker 4: this chat, I love them even more. With gay being

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Speaker 4: with their sexuality, these two bring such unique and interesting

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Speaker 4: perspectives to this chat on finding yourself and your Yay. Then,

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Speaker 4: the story of them finding each other is a beautiful one,

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Speaker 4: with their wedding taking place just before we met, launching

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Speaker 4: Gabe into global TikTok fame and consequently our whole new career.

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Speaker 4: I'll let them tell you the rest themselves. They are

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Speaker 4: I hope you're all as inspired and delighted by them

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Speaker 4: as I am. Gabe and Adam, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having us so excited to be here.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited to have you guys, for everyone listening.

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Speaker 4: I met this delightful couple during the well Wind trip

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Speaker 4: And you are absolutely doing that. I'm so excited that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Yeah, So growing up there was a

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gay, I'm by and so I just

438
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: assumed everyone was the same because I grew up with

439
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: undiagnosed like anxiety, like just a bunch of just turmoil,

440
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: I guess you could say. And so I just, you know,

441
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: like you were saying earlier, were blinded by our own experience.

442
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: I thought everyone had the same experience as me, so

443
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: that everyone was attracted to everyone, But people just had

444
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: straight relationships because that's, you know, how families. I grew

445
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: up in a traditional family. That's how you have families,

446
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: and you move on and you move forward and everything.

447
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that some of the things I did

448
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: as I grew up were like coping mechanisms. I would

449
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: sneak out of the house, not to do anything.

450
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: Like scary or illegal.

451
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: It was to like run two or three miles just

452
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: to get rid of some excess energy. Or there'd be

453
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: nights where I'd sleep fifteen twenty minutes, but I'd wake

454
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 1: up go to school the next day like nothing was different.

455
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: I grew up with migraines like almost every day, like

456
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: it was just you know, I just thought everyone dealt

457
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: with it the same way I did and pretend not

458
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: pretended like it was okay because to me it was okay.

459
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: And so when I went on, like you were saying earlier,

460
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: I grew up LDS.

461
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: And so I went on an LDS mission to South

462
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Speaker 3: Africa and.

463
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Speaker 1: That kind of threw me in an environment where I

464
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: couldn't do a lot of those coping mechanisms.

465
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Speaker 4: Adam, sorry to interrupt. What's LDS standfoard just for the leasteness.

466
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: It's the shortened version of the Church of Jesus Christ

467
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: of Latter day Saints, which is nicknamed more because they

468
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: read the Book of Mormon, so it's like and it's

469
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: just another nickname. So yeah, LDS stands for Latter Day.

470
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: Saying, which now they have changed it to where you

471
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: have to say the fule thing.

472
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they recommend it. They don't like make you

473
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 3: have to a bunch of details. They want it to

474
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: be like more known.

475
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: One of the rumors of the LDS church is that

476
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: they don't worship Jesus or God.

477
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: It's Joseph Smith. So they just want to.

478
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: Make sure that Jesus' name is in the name so

479
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: that doesn't get lost. But anyway, so yeah, I grew

480
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: up LDS. When I went on the LDS mission, I

481
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: lost a lot of those coping mechanisms and so.

482
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: That like anxiety, the turmoil, everything just bubbled up to

483
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: the breaking point you know that a lot of people have.

484
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: Fortunately, I was in a space where a lot of

485
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: the thoughts and a lot of the like impulses to

486
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: cause self harm or like just escape into like all

487
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: these things, I wasn't able to do.

488
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: So I was able to come home and get the

489
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: help I needed. And it was just kind of.

490
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: A really weird time in my life because that was

491
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: when I was twenty. I was a whole different person

492
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: than I was before that because I did everything I

493
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: did before that wasn't necessarily expectations that I was trying

494
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: to meet. Instead, it was just going with the flow, saying, oh, everyone.

495
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: Does these but they just do.

496
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: Something else instead, and I was I was okay with that.

497
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: But coming back home and finding the help that I needed,

498
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: learning that we all have different experiences, learning that I

499
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: don't need to feel this way like I'm an actual

500
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: like person myself and it's okay to be that really

501
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: opened up a lot of opportunities for me, and it

502
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: really allowed me to be able to find out who

503
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: I was, because I didn't know who I was before

504
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: I was a product of the people around me, and

505
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: so it was really cool to be able to just

506
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: kind of try something and give myself the opportunity to

507
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: be honest with myself for the first time, to be like,

508
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: do I actually enjoy this or am I following the

509
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: impulse of those around me?

510
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: You know?

511
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: And so when Gabe and I met, it was a

512
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: really cool time in my life because I was very

513
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: secure in myself. I had started dating men and women,

514
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: like I never really dated before I was twenty either,

515
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: because it just, you know, I had other things I

516
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: was doing. It just wasn't a big interest. But then

517
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: it was interesting in that aspect too, because I'd get

518
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: a different reaction when I was telling a story about

519
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: a date I went on with the boy versus a

520
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: date when I went on with a girl, and it

521
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: really frustrated me.

522
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: It's kind of like what we were.

523
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: Talking about earlier, where there's more to us than this

524
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: one specific part. Like Gabe, we were saying, there's more

525
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: to him than just what he looks like, and then

526
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: mine was there's more to me than just my sexuality

527
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: because it wasn't about the date. When I said, oh,

528
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: he and I went and did this instead, it was like, wait,

529
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: you did, guys.

530
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: That's when they.

531
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Started going like, yes, queen, like all this around me,

532
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's not.

533
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: Cute. I don't want that.

534
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: I am not the queen in this relationship.

535
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: I'm not.

536
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 4: I actually remember when you told me you were by

537
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 4: and you were like when I was younger, I just

538
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: didn't know that everyone wasn't like that, and I just

539
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: had this image of you and you're so sweet, just

540
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 4: being like, why can't we all just love each other?

541
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

542
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 4: Baby, why can't we all just get along?

543
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: I think I still like that, And I think that

544
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: whole attitude is what like it was saying earlier, how

545
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: he likes how I'm to learn about people. It's I

546
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: didn't know there was other people out there. I thought

547
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: it was all me in a different shell, you know.

548
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: And so it's just really cool to be able to

549
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: like learn about other people and like see if what

550
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: they're doing is something that I want to do too.

551
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: Like, it's just been a.

552
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: Really cool experience the last like six or seven years.

553
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: This last couple of years with COVID though.

554
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: Has really kind of shaken that.

555
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: And so I think I'm about ready to start another

556
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: like finding out who I am, and it's like I

557
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: haven't lost who I am. I'm still really like myself,

558
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: but it's really hunkered me down to just like doing

559
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: things around the house. I don't have that urge to

560
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: go hang out with my friends like I used to,

561
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: or that urge to like go to a concert or

562
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: even like go anywhere public.

563
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: And so it's just any people, just anything at all.

564
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, it sucks, but it's going to

565
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: be fun.

566
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: We're all going to be rediscovering it together.

567
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 4: I think totally. I love about both of you that

568
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: a lot of people come on the show and their

569
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: pathway is all about and first I was five and

570
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a doctor, and then I got

571
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: to six and I was like, no, I want to

572
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: be a teacher. And then at nine I was like,

573
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: I want to be a lawyer, and then I became

574
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: a lawyer. Like it's often their identity is so wrapped

575
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: up in what they do, not who they are. And

576
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: the original reason why I started c ZA was because

577
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: I want to know who people are. I don't want

578
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: the first thing that you say when you meet someone

579
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: to be Hi, what do you do? I want it

580
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: to be high. Who are you? What do you find interesting?

581
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: What are your values? What do you want to you know?

582
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: What you want your legacy to be in this world?

583
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: But I didn't have to ask either of you that

584
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: because you both first went into who you are and

585
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: what you do is not really even figured into the equation,

586
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: which I just find so refreshing because it's so rare

587
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: that productivity isn't your entire personality or lifestyle.

588
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: It stresses me.

589
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: Out want it to be my whole personality.

590
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: But that's so good around, which is kind of how

591
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: it should be right work, as you know we have.

592
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: I think this generation has this idea that you have

593
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: to be passionate about your work, otherwise you shouldn't be

594
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: doing it. But sometimes work is just to support the

595
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: life of who you are when you're not working. It

596
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: shouldn't necessarily be the other way around, but it's become that.

597
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: So I love that you guys have such a healthy,

598
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: like a head on your shoulders about the separation between

599
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: those two identities. And before we go onto how the

600
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: chapters have sort of merged since you guys have met

601
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: and followed in love and on very typical gay time,

602
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: have done it all in like twelve months, which I

603
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: think is amazing.

604
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: People here get married so quick.

605
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: My parents their first date to their wedding day was

606
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: ninety days. They were engaged two weeks after a meeting.

607
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

608
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: Well, you guys have Utah and gay time, so it's

609
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: like Utah gay time. It is just like so you

610
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: might as well have done in like two days. You know,

611
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: just get it done, Get it done. But before we

612
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: move on to the love story, I think what's really

613
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: interesting with you two is you both grew up in

614
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: the Mormon faith and seem to have had very safe

615
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: and loved childhoods and still get on with both of

616
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: your families even though you've since come out. I think

617
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: a lot of people assume that if you leave a

618
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 4: tight knit community united by values, whether that's religious or otherwise,

619
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: but particularly religious, that it's black and white, and that

620
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: you would be you know, like, I'm so glad to

621
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: not be Mormon anymore and to leave going to the church.

622
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: And you know, I think it's not that simple. I

623
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: think it's possible to move on from a chapter of

624
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: your life and maybe not be part of that faith anymore,

625
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: but not regret it either, and not think that none

626
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: of it was good for you in that chapter. I

627
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: think you can move on from a chapter without regretting

628
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: it or without thinking it wasn't the right thing for you.

629
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Then.

630
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 4: So do you guys look back on, you know, being

631
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: part of the raised in the Mormon faith fondly? I

632
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: think there's a book, Ah God, what's it called Educated

633
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: by Tara Westoiba that covers that gray area really long.

634
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard for one thing too, because,

635
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: like you're saying, a lot of people do think it's

636
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: black and white, especially here in Utah, because there's such

637
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: a di dichotomy.

638
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 5: Diiconic dichotomy, because as like, growing up in the church,

639
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: you're told that it's the only true church, and you're

640
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 5: kind of this is kind of stretching it, So don't take.

641
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: This like word for word. But there's a lot of

642
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: phrases that are part of the church that when you're

643
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: you're a kid can kind of be taken as a

644
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: victimization of themselves and so it becomes a very much

645
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: like them and us. And so when I saw a

646
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: lot of my friends like start to leave the church

647
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: and explore other lifestyles and other things, it was very

648
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: like we're one way and then we have to swing

649
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: all the way. We can't just like dabble and find

650
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: out what is ours or not. It's all acceptance either way.

651
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: You can't be somewhere in the middle. And that was

652
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: really hard for me too, because that was my first reaction.

653
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: I still have a very good relationship with my family

654
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: and with the churches, like the membership. Maybe not on

655
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: the whole, but like I do think the people around

656
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: us who are members of the LDS faith are trying

657
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: to do their best with what they have, and so

658
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: I don't ever hold it against someone if they mentioned

659
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: that they're a part of the church or what. I

660
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: just don't go to church. I've never been a very

661
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: religious person. I've been spiritual, but I.

662
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: Don't like ritual. I don't like I call it some.

663
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Poetry, you know, or some scripture, because a lot of

664
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: that can get lost, the meaning behind it, can get

665
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: lost in the words or in the motions. And I

666
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: want to feel things for what they are instead of

667
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: for what I expect them to be.

668
00:33:59,560 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: You know.

669
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: And so that was something that I had to break

670
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: through as I was figuring out, like I mentioned before,

671
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: if I like something or if I didn't that I

672
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: didn't automatically swing all the way the other way like

673
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: some of the people.

674
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: Around me have.

675
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: But I guess my advice for those people that are

676
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: listening that feel like it is all or nothing, like

677
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be. Just because you think, or

678
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: you expect, or the people around you have enjoyed something

679
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean you have to participate. And just because

680
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: you don't participate in something doesn't This is a lot

681
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: of words that I'm trying to like put piece together

682
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: at the same time. But just because you do one

683
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: thing that's different doesn't mean you need to do everything else.

684
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: And that's not a betrayal to either side. That is

685
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: not a betrayal to either side at all.

686
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: Because you were finding who you are, you're not.

687
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: Finding out anything else besides.

688
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: That so true, and I think something that I try

689
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: to emphasize on the show is that life really unravels

690
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 4: in chapters. It's not just one book where you have

691
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: to decide something when you're young and then stick to

692
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: that for the whole rest of your life, like or

693
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 4: you choose one career and that has to last you forever.

694
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 4: It's okay if you close one chapter and start a

695
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: totally different one without regretting the one before, or without

696
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 4: thinking that if there was anything bad about it or

697
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: casting judgment on it. It's okay if you know that

698
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: did serve you well when you were younger. And then

699
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: you just decide, Okay, this isn't me anymore, and you

700
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: close it and you slowly move on to the next one.

701
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: And same with relationships. It's the same thing. I think

702
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: it's possible to not want something anymore without regretting it.

703
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people would struggle with

704
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: that concept, particularly in terms of something where their values

705
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: change as they get older, and then their values are

706
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: no longer consistent with an earlier chapter. They tend to

707
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: not be able to acknowledge that there are good things

708
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 4: in some tougher chapters that you end up leaving.

709
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Permanent is something that I kind of struggle

710
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: with because I want things to be permanent, and so like,

711
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll try to set things up for what they are,

712
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: and so when it's time to let go of something,

713
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, that should have been permanent, and it's just

714
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: like I don't have to let.

715
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: It go, but it's trude.

716
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: I let it go, and it wasn't a waste of work,

717
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't a waste of time. It served its purpose

718
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: and now it's time to upgrade, you know, like when

719
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: the new phone comes up, a new pair of shoes,

720
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: like work with it, Like just enjoy what you have now, enjoy.

721
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: The new I always say, nothing is ever a waste

722
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 4: if you learned something from it. So even if it

723
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: was a chapter that you absolutely hated and you never

724
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: use that skill set again, if it teaches you what

725
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: you don't want, that still gets you a step closer

726
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: to what you do want. So a lot of people

727
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 4: look back at chapters of their lives and they're like, oh,

728
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: I was you know, like me, I was a lawyer

729
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: for ten years of my life studying to get there,

730
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: And people like, do you think that was a waste

731
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: of time? I'm like, absolutely not. I wouldn't be where

732
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: I am without that ten years. So how could I

733
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: ever regret even though I didn't stick with it, obviously, Like,

734
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 4: how could I regret that it taught me what I

735
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: didn't want and it made me who I have become.

736
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think if you look at life that way,

737
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 4: you live without a lot of regret because you're sort

738
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 4: of like everything has a purpose in getting you in

739
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: all those little dots connecting, which connected so beautifully when

740
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: your paths collided, the ultimate Parthia to each other. How

741
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: did you guys meet? I hear your first date was

742
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 4: like a proper like three pm to two am situation.

743
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 4: Next minute Adamson drops to one knee and has proposed,

744
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: and then you're having the wedding.

745
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Of the year.

746
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: So you guys meeting each other is like a fairy tale.

747
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: Like I feel like you're both just two jigs or

748
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 4: puzzle pieces that fit each other's everything so well. And

749
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: from the minute I met you, I was like, these

750
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: guys have something so good, Like you have such a

751
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: good balance between supporting each other in each other's things

752
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: even though they're so different, but also having independence, Like

753
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: I love that you know, Adam, you go hiking and

754
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: Gabe can't always go hiking with you, but you pick

755
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: a flower for him every single time you go on

756
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 4: a hike, which I just think is so beautiful, Like

757
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: little things like that. You guys have so much independence,

758
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: like and Gabe has his whole TikTok career about Adam's

759
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 4: kind of like part of it, but like not because

760
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: that's you know, I don't know. I just think you

761
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: guys had such a perfect match. So tell us the

762
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: love story and how you got to this beautiful moment

763
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: today where you're renovating your house together, which is why

764
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: Adam could just paint all over his hands and face.

765
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: So the time that Gabe and I like met and

766
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: first started talking, it was actually on Tinder, which is

767
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: kind of embarrassing, but.

768
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: It's the greatest.

769
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty. Well, it was twenty twenty when we met. Yeah,

770
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: it was twenty twenty when we started talking. And so yeah,

771
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: it's the like with the new normal, I guess to

772
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: meet online.

773
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 4: But totally that's how it's done.

774
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: Now. I had just gotten out of a relatively long

775
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: relationship and had been single for a minute and thought

776
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: it would be good to get jump back in the

777
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: dating game. And so I was walking on my way

778
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: to work and I pulled out Tinder and he was

779
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: the first face that popped up, and I started scrolling

780
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: through his pictures and I just had that like jump

781
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: in my chest and in my throat, knowing that this

782
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: was someone that that was important.

783
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: It didn't tell me that it.

784
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: Was, you know, soulmates yet or anything. But it was

785
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: definitely like that feeling that I get when I'm about

786
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: to meet someone that's going to be important to me

787
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: in my story. And so I was looking through his

788
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: pictures again because I was going to swipe right, but

789
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: got that feeling not yet, which I thought was weird

790
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: considering the other feeling I had just gotten right. And

791
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: so I was like scrolling through his pictures again and

792
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: that's when I noticed he didn't have arm or legs,

793
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: and anyone in that situ suation would have the whole

794
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: like is this a deal breaker moment? And so like

795
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: I moled it for a minute, I was like, no,

796
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Whatever happens happens, like we'll just we'll just

797
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: we'll just take it as it counts.

798
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: And so.

799
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I worked all day that day, then I went to

800
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: bed that night, and then onto work the next day,

801
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: like exactly twenty four hours later, I had that feeling.

802
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: To just pull out my phone and swipe. So I

803
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: pulled him up. He was still I had screenshot at him.

804
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: I'd like done everything to make sure every plant him

805
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: that he would disappear, and so I swiped right, and

806
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: it was a swipe and type, you know, like you

807
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: swipe right and it's an immediate match to type.

808
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 4: And so no, I don't know with my husband, Sin's

809
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 4: before the app, so I have no idea.

810
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: I made up the pree swipe and type, so I

811
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: don't even know if anyone else knows what that is.

812
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: So it's fine. So it's a swipe and type.

813
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: And so I did this cute little message and he

814
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: immediately responded, which I think set the energy for the

815
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: rest of the relationship.

816
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: It was just like immediate back.

817
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: And forth, like we were just like just getting to

818
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: know each other. It was it was a great time.

819
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: I had a trip planned that weekend and so our

820
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: first date wasn't for another week. But after we had

821
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: been dating for a little bit, we decided to look

822
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: back at our messages and he had snuck a message

823
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: in before my first one, and so his was a

824
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: swiping tight too. We had swiped at the exact same second.

825
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that is so cool.

826
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we know it was meant to be. There's

827
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: something or someone out there like forcing us to and

828
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: it's been perfect.

829
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. And I just love so much that

830
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: you know, people are like, oh love that best sign

831
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 4: like doesn't really happen, but obviously I think when you're

832
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: really connected to someone, it does. And when you can

833
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 4: turn that into a conversation and then turn that into

834
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 4: a date, and then you know, like I understand the whole,

835
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 4: Like why waste time, particularly in the middle of a pandemic.

836
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: It's like, if you found someone that you love to

837
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: spend twenty four seven with and who makes you feel

838
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: like a better person and opens up the world to you, Like,

839
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 4: why are you going to waste time?

840
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

841
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So how was it for you, guys? Because

842
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: I think if you haven't lived with or had a

843
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: close friend who's had a physical disability before, I feel

844
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: like the first time you broach a lot of things

845
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: like I think some of my friends who have physical

846
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: disabilities or who can't do certain things independently, but you

847
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: can do everything else independently. I get kind of awkward

848
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: sometimes about when I offer help or when I don't

849
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: offer help without seeming like, you know, without doing the

850
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: wrong thing. You just want to do the right thing.

851
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: You don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable. The first date

852
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: and then how that unraveled into like we're dating and

853
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 4: then we're moving in together. How did you guys navigate

854
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 4: all that?

855
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: That's another one for you, another one for me.

856
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: Okay, well I guess I'll keep doing all the time.

857
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was something that I thought about.

858
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: You know, my go to first date has always been

859
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: a coffee shop because we can both drive there independently.

860
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: We've already paid for our drinks and so, and it's public.

861
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: It's safe for both people because one I don't want

862
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: the other person to feel intimidated. I don't want to

863
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: feel intimidated. And if they suck, I can leave, Like

864
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: it's not like we have to work for the chet

865
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: and I have to drive home awkwardly to Yeah, and

866
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: so it was. It was the coffee shop date, and

867
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: I was I had to pick him up, like obviously.

868
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: So I went and picked him up, and I just

869
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: tried to make it as normal as possible. And I

870
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: told him right off the bat too. I was like,

871
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: just just to kind of help me know his limitations

872
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: and give him a window of opportunity to explain them

873
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: to me. I was just I'm going to assume you

874
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: can do everything and tell you tell.

875
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: Me you need help.

876
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: Oh good.

877
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I just kind of you know, made

878
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: it like anybody else. The only thing that I did

879
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: of my own volition was push his wheelchair, like that's

880
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: the only open doors. But that's something I would do

881
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: for any date at the time. And then if he

882
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: needed something, he asked for it. And I think that's

883
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: kind kind of just how it's been our whole relationship.

884
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: Not that I'm like, do it yourself, but.

885
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm just going to assume until you do it. Yeah,

886
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: and I've been surprised because I've had to do hardly anything.

887
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: The dishes.

888
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: You literally said that to me the first time. You

889
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 4: were like, I do know things, basically, Yeah, like everyone

890
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: is always surprised.

891
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: I could fall laundry too. I just don't.

892
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: You can't. Okay, Well we've got to. We've got to

893
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: reach up of the bag.

894
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: Gabe. How about you? I feel like you seem so

895
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: balanced and after I'm sure having done a lot of work,

896
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: feel very secure in your abilities and have so much

897
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: independence and have obviously I mean, guys, I can't believe

898
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 4: it's taken me this long to get to because the

899
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: story is just so interesting. But if you haven't seen

900
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: Gabe on TikTok, he does make up better than ninety

901
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: five to ninety nine percent of the population without arms

902
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: can put lushes on, Like there is basically nothing you

903
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: can't do, and I love I asked for Game's email

904
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: to send him the questions for this interview, and it's limitless,

905
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: but like limb itless, which is just amazing. I love

906
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: it because I'm like, he is limitless and liveless, so

907
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: this is just amazing. How did you get to a

908
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 4: place where And I think everyone has this situation in

909
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 4: relationships often where the gaps that we find in ourselves

910
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: we often try and fill them with other people when

911
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: we're first dating, and it's hard to just figure out

912
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: who you are, be comfortable in you, and then find

913
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: a healthy relationship in that. Did you ever find like

914
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: that you've saw validation and other people? Has it been

915
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 4: awkward for you the first time you go on a

916
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: date and you're explaining what you can and can't do, Like,

917
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: how have you navigated the dating world? And what was

918
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: it like then to meet Adam and be like, this

919
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: is my person except when we get married, he can't

920
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 4: take my name because then it'd be Adam Adams and

921
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: it'll be really awkward.

922
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Think it would be cool as hell, but he thinks

923
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: it's not the vibe.

924
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: Adam Adams is such a vibe. It would be a

925
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: It would be amazing.

926
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: I go back to school and get my degree.

927
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: I'll be doctor Adam Adams Like, how lad would that be?

928
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

929
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well I believe it could still happen anyway, Gabe,

930
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 4: how has it been for you and what was it

931
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: like to meet your person?

932
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: Well, I first started dating when I was probably like fifteen,

933
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: and so I kind of wasn't new to it when

934
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: it came to Adam that still everybody gets as butterflies.

935
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: And what if he doesn't like me? What if this

936
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: goes wrong? What if I'm too heavy for him to lift?

937
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: What if he grabs me awkwardly to pick me up?

938
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: What if I fall out of my wheelchair in front

939
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: of him? And all these different tings on, like the

940
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: first date not just offend that a bunch of other

941
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: guys and stuff like that. But one thing that stood

942
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: out to Adam when we were dating, Like on our

943
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: first date, we went to that coffee shop, and in

944
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: that coffee shop you could play games, and I was like,

945
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to touch any pieces with my mouth.

946
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: This was before COVID too, so it's not just like

947
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: COVID in general. If it was.

948
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: During COVID, it would not have been in the coffee

949
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: shop in a public place with germs and pieces to touch, Like, yeah,

950
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: just just to throw out there.

951
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: If I don't own it, it's not like mine personally,

952
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: I won't touch it with my mouth, but if it

953
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: is mine that I'll touch it with my mouth because

954
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: I know exactly where it's been and I can't. And

955
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: so we walked in and we started to look at

956
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: the game selection and everything, and Adam, without like asking

957
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: or anything to straight off about, was like, Hey, could

958
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: I get a cup for him to play this game

959
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: for like rolling dice and everything. And I was like, oh, wow,

960
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: he's already thinking like two steps ahead of me of

961
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: like how could he play the game and everything, And

962
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: so that really stood out to me. And then when

963
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: we were driving home from the coffee shop up it

964
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: was probably like four thirty something, yeah, a couple, and

965
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: I thought he was just going to drop me off

966
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: at home and go on about his day and never

967
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: really talk to me again, because that's what I was

968
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: used to in the dating scene, where guys just being

969
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: curious of what it would be like to wannagate with

970
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: me or try and get in my pants and do

971
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: all these things. But with Adam it was completely different.

972
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: So we started driving back to my house and I

973
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: was like, well, it was really fun to see you.

974
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, and he's like, what are you talking about?

975
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, you're are done right, and he's like, oh,

976
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: I want to come over. Let's hang out more. And

977
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay. And I was living with

978
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: my brother and my sister in law and their four

979
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: kids at the time, and so I texted my sister

980
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: in law because I'm super close to her, and I

981
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: was like, hey, mar D, it's going to come over.

982
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, perfect, I'm making a big meal

983
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: for dinner. He should stay over for dinner. And I

984
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: was like, no, he doesn't need to.

985
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you met the family on day one.

986
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: None of this was expected by the way, you know,

987
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: like I go into every first date giving it the

988
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: option of being longer or as short as five minutes,

989
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: and so this was just like going with the flow,

990
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: Like I genuinely wanted to meet everybody and see his

991
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: life and get to know him a little bit and

992
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 1: well a lot a bit, but at.

993
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: The coffee shop, we FaceTime my mom and my aunt

994
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: and my sister because my sister at the time was

995
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: serving a LBS mission a few states away from us,

996
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 2: and so every Tuesday week her and so we happened

997
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: to do the at the same time.

998
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 3: We were at the coffee shop, I met everybody.

999
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: So we met my mom and my aunt that day,

1000
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: and then we went to my plust that I was

1001
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: looking at with my sister in law and my brother.

1002
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: And when we first walked into the door, I hadn't

1003
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: asked him to stay for dinner yet, it was my

1004
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: sister in law was like, Hey, do you want to

1005
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 2: stay for dinner?

1006
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, would you like to stay forever?

1007
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 3: And he's like yeah, so sorry kidding.

1008
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: And so then all the kids were jumping on him

1009
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: and everything. That like really stood out to me that

1010
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: my nieces and nephews really liked him as well, and

1011
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: he was really good with them, impatient and fun with them,

1012
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: and so I was like, oh, okay, that's kind of cute.

1013
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: And then my thirteen year old niece at the time

1014
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: was like, you guys want to go watch Kardashians downstairs

1015
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 2: with me? And I was like, yeah, sure, and Adam

1016
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: have never seen the Kardashians really, so we started watching

1017
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: The Kardashians and were like bench probably like six episodes.

1018
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1019
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: And then he was getting ready to go like two

1020
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 2: in the morning, and I was like, well, it's good

1021
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: to see you, thank you. And he's like, oh, I'll

1022
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. And I was like tomorrow and he's like, yeah,

1023
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: I just got to go home and sleep and go

1024
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: to work and everything. Then I'll be back. And I

1025
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay, and he's like, do you want

1026
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 2: to like have an actual sleepover? And I was like yeah, sure,

1027
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: And so in my head I was like freaking out.

1028
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, she's going to see that I snore.

1029
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: He's going to see that. I knew that he was

1030
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: definitely a keeper, and then laid down our relationship before

1031
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: I had ever met him. When I was I think sixteen,

1032
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: I had a dream about the guy that I would

1033
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: marry and what my wedding would be like and everything,

1034
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 2: and it was always a guy waiting for me at

1035
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: the end of the aisle. He had glasses, he had

1036
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: brown hair, he was cute, he was funny, but his

1037
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: face was always very blurred out, but always envisioned what

1038
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: I was going to wear as well for my wedding outfit.

1039
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: So I sketched my wedding offit years and years and

1040
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: years before our actual wedding, and I just needed somebody

1041
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 2: to create it for me. And so a few months

1042
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: before the wedding, I reached out to a bunch of

1043
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 2: designers on TikTok that weren't like super well known, and

1044
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: seven of them got back to me out of ten,

1045
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: and there was one that I just instantly connected with

1046
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: that was from California and she was the sweetest, sweetest,

1047
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: sweetest person I've ever met in my life. And I

1048
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: sent her my designs and everything and she's like, oh,

1049
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: I could easily delete delete that because I in that.

1050
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my gosh, really and she's like, oh, yeah,

1051
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: for sure. And so we like went over designed details

1052
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: and then we went and met each other and it

1053
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: was very cool because it was also during the height

1054
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: of COVID as well, and so we wore a mask.

1055
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: We met in a hotel. Adam went down to the

1056
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: lobby for like two hours while we did the dress

1057
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: fitting and everything, and we just really connected to dress

1058
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: fitting and everything and walking down the aisle. It didn't

1059
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: hit me during the wedding, like prep and everything, that

1060
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: I was about to marry the man of my dreams

1061
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: and that this was my dream wedding and I was

1062
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: going to have everybody that I loved and wanted there

1063
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: and there and so walking down the aisle, I was

1064
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 2: probably just a few steps from Adam and we both

1065
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: locked eyes, and I think it hit us both and

1066
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: we both start getting tearied eyed and choking up. And

1067
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: I told Adam might speak for the wedding, and I

1068
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: was like, if you don't cry, well, I walked down

1069
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: the aisle, I'm going to turn back around and we're

1070
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: gonna all again.

1071
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: I cried the whole night.

1072
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 2: Then I was like in the moment, I was like, wait,

1073
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: I can't cry. I have makeup on, it's gonna smear

1074
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: and everything. I bo Adam and like, wiped my tea.

1075
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 4: You your tea.

1076
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: He was going to complain about his makeup if I didn't.

1077
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: Such a diva.

1078
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was definitely my dream very till wedding,

1079
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy that all the pieces connected and

1080
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: that I had Adam to the my forever stouse and

1081
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: my family there and his family there and a few

1082
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 2: close friends and everything just super cute.

1083
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you guys the wedding photos and videos

1084
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 4: and you showed me the sketches and your fittings and

1085
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: it was just gives me goosebumps, Like watching you guys dance,

1086
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 4: and I think you posted a video the other day

1087
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 4: of Adam putting you into a dip in the middle

1088
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: of one of your dances, and it was just like

1089
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: you've like thrown your whole head back and it's just

1090
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 4: this beautiful, y, antique moment that just looked so filled

1091
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: with joy but also propelled you into internet fame. Now

1092
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 4: as this incredible creator who has also become very very

1093
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: well known for your outstanding makeup skills. You now have

1094
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: how many millions of followers around the world.

1095
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: Two point two million or you hit two point two.

1096
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 4: So what has that been like? Like, I feel like

1097
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: a lot of people build their audiences gradually over time,

1098
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 4: and they have time to adjust to what it means

1099
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: to be in the public eye. Like they get small

1100
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: increments and as they grow, they get a tribe and

1101
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: then they you know, get to figure out trolling and

1102
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: they get to figure out content and managing balance between

1103
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: real life and content like they have time to do that.

1104
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: But because it's happened so fast for you and for

1105
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 4: both of you as a unit, like people love you together,

1106
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 4: how have you adjusted to that?

1107
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: How?

1108
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it gives you a wonderful platform for

1109
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 4: visibility and to spread your message about embracing your difference

1110
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: and uniqueness. But I'm sure it also comes with challenges

1111
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 4: as well, with privacy and dealing with some of the

1112
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: terrible people who live on the internet. You know, how

1113
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 4: are you adjusting to this fame all around the world?

1114
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 4: Like you literally said to me when we're away, I'm

1115
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 4: obsessed with this couple Compia and Kine from Australia, And

1116
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: I told them and they were like, yeah, we know, Gabe,

1117
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: And then like all away from Utah, you know this

1118
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: Australian couples, Like yeah, we follow them, Like that's insane.

1119
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, I know it's super cliche to say, but it

1120
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: really happened over a few nights. And it all happened

1121
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: on our honeymoon, really, And we had our honeymoon in

1122
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: New York and I think it was probably like our

1123
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: third day, really, we went to the walk around like

1124
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: the Tracks in New York and there's like this bridge

1125
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: that's like built in two tracks that people can walk

1126
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: and tour around.

1127
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: So it's called a park that used to be a

1128
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: subway thing about ground and so they have tracks on it.

1129
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: That's why he's calling it.

1130
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 4: Oh I know, it's the high Line.

1131
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

1132
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 4: And Chelsea Yeah.

1133
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: So we were doing that and there were a bunch

1134
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: of people that would stop us and be like, you're

1135
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: that couple from TikTok. Oh my gosh, we just saw

1136
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: your wedding video. Oh my gosh, we just saw your

1137
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: husband thirty in the pool. Oh my goshs oh my gosh,

1138
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: you do this? Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

1139
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: I'm my home.

1140
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 2: It's like, what the sick is going on? And the

1141
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: funny thing is that Adam also posted content.

1142
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: On his and for about six hours I had more

1143
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: views than he did, so I was like, who's the

1144
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: influencer now.

1145
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: I was so proud of that.

1146
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: And then like like after four hours he immediately like

1147
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: doubled it.

1148
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 4: And I think it's at like sixty full million views

1149
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 4: or something.

1150
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: Now insane, And even just coming home, it didn't hit

1151
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: me like mentally and emotionally like how far I come

1152
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: in just my it's time until all the real negative

1153
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: comments came in. And I know that people who don't

1154
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: do social media always say, don't look at the comments,

1155
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: don't look at the comments, But as a social media influencer,

1156
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: it's part of your job to kind of see how

1157
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: people are taking your content, whether they love it or

1158
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: they hate it, the good and the bad, and it's

1159
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: going to take central armumental and emotion because sometimes it's

1160
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: content that I really, really really love and I pour

1161
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: my heart into it, Like there was one that I

1162
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: posted that was about my sexual abuse story and coming

1163
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: out of that, and it was instantly flooded with negativity

1164
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: and being made fun of and having stitches and duets.

1165
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: Not even the fact that it was sexual abuse, but

1166
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: the fact that I was born without arms and legs

1167
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: and my physical disability, And that's kind of what a

1168
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: lot of my videos have been about. And sometimes it's

1169
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: not even about my sexuality. It's really just back that

1170
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: I have no arms and no legs, and people think

1171
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 2: that it's so funny to call me a nugget or

1172
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: a vegetails character or this and that, this and that.

1173
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 2: So I've kind of gotten to the point where I'm

1174
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: on the TikTok creator fund and I'm also under management

1175
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: from the UK, and I will let my content go

1176
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,479
Speaker 2: for about three days and then after that three day mark,

1177
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: I will turn off the wedding stitches and commenting because

1178
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: after the three days, I get my bag of money.

1179
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: And as dirty as that sounds, it's worth it to

1180
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: me to be able to make a living and know

1181
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: that I somehow deserve the income that I'm coming from.

1182
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: The negativity that comes up with it, but also there

1183
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: is always a lot of positivity that outlaighs the negativity

1184
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: and you just to fund it. And that's within the

1185
00:58:54,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus community, the disability community, the Latin ex community,

1186
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: and just other people that really want to love and

1187
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: understand the appreciation of what I do on a daily basis,

1188
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: whether that's showing my independence like going up and down

1189
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: the stairs. There were a lot of comments like why

1190
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: would you buy a level home? Is your husband going

1191
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: to carry up those stairs? And it was a big

1192
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: conversation with him and I that if we were going

1193
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: to buy a stair hall, I was going to go

1194
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: up and down the stairs. And it's not that I

1195
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: learned to go up and down the stairs and one night.

1196
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: I've been going up and down the stairs my entire life.

1197
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: But we moved into an apartment where it was just

1198
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: one flour and so I wasn't having to go up

1199
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 2: and downstairs for a year and a half and I

1200
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: kind of actually missed it. And when we moved into

1201
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: this house, my bathroom or I s our bathroom. I

1202
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: like to have my own bathroom.

1203
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: I see how it is.

1204
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a lotid shower. It's a tub shower combo.

1205
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: So I had to use a stool outside of the

1206
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 2: tub and then a stool with inside of the tub

1207
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: to get in an out. And at first We're like, well,

1208
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: we need to rip this out and turn it into

1209
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: a walking shower so it's easier and more convenient. But

1210
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: now having it, I'm like, no, I actually love the

1211
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: test my independence every day of having to get in

1212
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: and that shower, even if it takes a few more

1213
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: steps in a few more minutes. I enjoy and appreciate

1214
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: the hard work that I've had to do over the

1215
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 2: years to get to where I am physically to get

1216
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: myself up and down the Sperris in and out of

1217
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: the shower and up on the toilet, off the toilet

1218
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 2: and dress and brush my teeth and brush my hair

1219
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: and do my own makeup. And I think when I

1220
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: was living at the apartment, I kind of took that

1221
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: all for granted, and I didn't realize that until we

1222
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: moved into this counse and I was like, oh wow,

1223
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: I actually really really appreciate all the hard work that

1224
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: I've done over the years. And I don't really give

1225
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: myself that pattern on the back because once again, it's

1226
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: my everyday life, and so it becomes the everyday norm

1227
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: for me. I don't second guys, I don't set or anything.

1228
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: And when I was eighteen, I went to New York

1229
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: Fashion Week and I walked as a model, and I

1230
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: went there all by myself. I traveled there all by myself.

1231
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: And when I first told my parents, I didn't tell

1232
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: them until the day before I left that I was

1233
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: going to be going there on my own, and they

1234
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: were freaking out and everything. I was like, no, it's

1235
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: gonna be fine. You guys got me to this point mentally, physically,

1236
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: emotionally like I'm ready to do it. I want to

1237
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: do it, and I'm like, okay, we'll just leave your

1238
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: phone on, don't talk to strangers, stick to yourself, don't drive,

1239
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: don't ride a taxi, blah blah blah blah. And I

1240
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, yeah, you know, I definitely broke a

1241
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 2: lot of those rules my first day there. I reade

1242
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: a taxi, I talked to strangers. But I was doing that.

1243
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: And the whole reason that I was doing that fashion

1244
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: show was because they were about showing people with all

1245
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: different walks of life, whether they're blind or missing limbs

1246
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: or amputated limbs or in wheelchairs or whatever it may

1247
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: be that makes them stand out differently. They were getting

1248
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: showcased in the fashion community and making noise that not

1249
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: everybody is the same, and not every piece is going

1250
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: to be easy for somebody who was different to be

1251
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: able to put on, Like for me, I need elasticitywear

1252
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: in my pants owndwear for me to be able to

1253
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: put it on by myself, where some people need a

1254
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: magnet where the button is so that they can flop

1255
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: it open and step and be able to get themselves

1256
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: dressing undressed. And I was getting ready to walk the

1257
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: runway and they played the song just the Way You

1258
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: Are by Bruno Mars, and I was eighteen years old,

1259
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: and I had never pat myself on the pack or

1260
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: all the hard work, but I hadn't gotten too and

1261
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: I instantly hit me and I broke down emotionally and

1262
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: started sobbing as I was getting ready to walk the

1263
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: runway because I was like, Oh my gosh, I am

1264
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: eighteen years old walking New York Fashion Week all on

1265
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: my own. I get myself dressed, I get myself in

1266
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: another shower, I did my own hair and makeup. I

1267
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: really truly made this happen for myself, and I'm so

1268
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: proud of myself. And I got home to my hotel

1269
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: and I called my mom and I was like, I

1270
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: just want to thank you so much for all the

1271
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: tough love that you've given me, because none of this

1272
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: would have been possible if you would have babied me

1273
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: and never let me really grown and saw my potential

1274
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: long before I could see it myself. And I just

1275
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 2: really appreciate that and love and respect you and Dad

1276
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: for always pushing me knowing what I was truly capable of.

1277
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: And even now I'll go to her house and sometimes

1278
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: she gets frustrated because there are things that I'll be

1279
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: doing and she's like, do you want me to help

1280
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: you with that. I'm like, no, no, my got it.

1281
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: I got it. He's like, well, it would just be

1282
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: faster if I helped you do it. And I was like, no,

1283
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: I got it, and she's like okay, but yeah, and

1284
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: that this plays a huge role in adamized relationship as well,

1285
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: going back to the independence in him learning what I

1286
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: can and can't do on a daily basis. I think

1287
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: we both shop each other with what I'm able to do.

1288
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: Like those times that I'll call and I can't do this.

1289
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 4: I think that's the same in all relationships. Like you

1290
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 4: guys are an acute example and a visible example of

1291
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: something we should all take into all of our relationships

1292
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 4: in that really subtle balance between really supporting and facilitating

1293
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 4: the best life for your partner that you can, but

1294
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 4: also giving them the space to figure out some things

1295
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 4: by themselves. Because when my husband's around, I won't even

1296
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 4: try because I'm like, you know, I won't try something

1297
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 4: like I won't try something scary if he's there, because

1298
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: he'll pick me up and be like, oh no, it's fine,

1299
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 4: you know, like we've done. There's an example. We went

1300
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 4: to India and we were hiking in the Himalayas, and

1301
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: I at the time hadn't really hiked that much and

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Speaker 4: he got food poisoning and he couldn't come. So I

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Speaker 4: did this like multi stage, long day thing and fifty

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Speaker 4: degree heat and like with water, like it was vertical scrambling.

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Speaker 4: And when he was there, I would have a burst

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Speaker 4: into tears, sat on the floor and had a massive

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Speaker 4: tantrum and knock on any further and turn around, and

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Speaker 4: then Dan he would have had to nurse me back

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Speaker 4: because I would have been like, no, no, it's so scared.

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Speaker 4: But when he's not there, I'm like independent, one man like.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's the thing that stood out the

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Speaker 4: most to me about you guys, was this beautiful push

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Speaker 4: pool of support, independent, support, independence that I thought everyone

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Speaker 4: needs that in their friendships with their parents to the children,

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Speaker 4: Like every relationship could benefit from that dynamic. And I

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Speaker 4: think you're just such good role models and I love

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Speaker 4: that you have a platform now to show that because

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Speaker 4: we all need a bit more of that, We all

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Speaker 4: need a bit more of just just give it a go.

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Speaker 4: Like I love when you were like I'm just gonna Adam,

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Speaker 4: it was like I'm just gonna throw a game in

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Speaker 4: the pool, like, let's just see what happens, you know.

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Speaker 3: That was the thing. There was a pool there, and

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Speaker 3: he was like, I think I want to jump in

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Speaker 3: the pool. And I was like, are you sure. One,

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Speaker 3: you're mate up to your outfit, three.

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Speaker 4: One your make up, three you're no limbs.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, are we getting ahead of ourselves?

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Speaker 1: Because sometimes you'll like do decisions is that He'll be like,

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Speaker 1: oh wait, no, never mind.

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Speaker 4: And so I want to traveling.

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Speaker 3: He was like, no, it's such a.

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Speaker 6: Trend right now. Everyone at their weddings are jumping in

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Speaker 6: the pool at the end of it. And I was like, cool,

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Speaker 6: let's do it then and then, and then I got

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Speaker 6: roasted for it on the internet too, because everyone was

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Speaker 6: all like, you just threw them in there.

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Speaker 2: You're just letting them understand that I've been swimming. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was four years old. That was one thing that

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Speaker 2: my parents made sure that I was able to do

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Speaker 2: because with not having arms or legs, my body overheats

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Speaker 2: really easily. And so they instantly found out that going

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Speaker 2: to the pool was that we could do as a family,

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Speaker 2: but also give me that time to cool off, and

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Speaker 2: that I wasn't going to be held when I was

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Speaker 2: in the pool. I needed to make sure that I

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Speaker 2: was able to travel in the pool, And so I

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Speaker 2: got to the point where I was going off the

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Speaker 2: diving boards. I'd go off the low dive and do back,

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Speaker 2: but where I'd go off a high eye, even though

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01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: I get on top of the high dive, and I'd

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Speaker 2: stand up there for like twenty minutes, and everybody at

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Speaker 2: the pool just sit there and stare up with me,

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Speaker 2: and my Dad's like, either you go off, or all

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Speaker 2: come up there and kick you off there to your joys.

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Speaker 2: And so that my siblings would like start to climb

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01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: up the lowry They're going to kick me off and

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Speaker 2: jump off. But I really love to test the norm

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Speaker 2: of what people think I can't and can't do and

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Speaker 2: prove that I can do it or I'm going to

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Speaker 2: figure out a way to do it.

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Speaker 4: The last question that I finished every episode with, because

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Speaker 4: I love quote so much as you guys know, is

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Speaker 4: what is your favorite quote?

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Speaker 1: I used to be a quote person. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: like keep them in my pocket, but I do have one.

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Speaker 4: Do you really?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that makes me so happy. Your makeup

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Speaker 4: desk is insane. Guys, you have to go and watch

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Speaker 4: gabees makeup tutorials. They are like I just can't even explain.

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Speaker 4: I barely know how to use foundation, let alone like

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 4: setting powder and like all the fancy thing contouring. I

1374
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: don't even know where to draw the line. And Gabe

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 4: has no arms and literally draws the most precise, beautiful

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01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 4: contoured line in the entire world. I just you blow

1377
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 4: my mind. You're like dexterity with your shoulder is insane.

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Speaker 2: It is crazy sometimes impress myself.

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Speaker 4: Also, quick random question for TikTok because you guys know,

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Speaker 4: I'm like trying to like figure it out. So when

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Speaker 4: you do the hectic makeup transitions, like do you go

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01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 4: out after or do you literally just do the video

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Speaker 4: and then just take it off.

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Speaker 1: I come home from work and he's laying in bed

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Speaker 1: with a full face sometimes full lushes because the white

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Speaker 1: ones started getting makeup.

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Speaker 3: So now we have black.

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Speaker 4: This is the bts of TikTok life. It looks super glamorous,

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01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 4: but really like Adam comes home from a full day

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Speaker 4: nurse seeing and a hectic healthcare system and Gabe's just

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01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 4: sitting there with like euphoria makeup, playing like Grand Theft

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Speaker 4: Order with you Foria makeup on I love it.

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Speaker 3: Before you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you? Quotes?

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like your whole big old thing too. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not really big of a like I used to

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: be more into quotes than I am now. But one

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Speaker 1: that's always stuck with me is one that my mom

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Speaker 1: would say all the time, and it was and it

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Speaker 1: kind of fits the vibe to which I think is fun.

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01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: But it's something that I always have going through my head.

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: It's and it sounds awful at first. It's I don't

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01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: care what happens to you, it's what you do about it.

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Speaker 4: That's such a good one, and.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really good because it's really put into perspective

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Speaker 1: some of those things where it's like this sucks, like

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01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: but like what are you going to do about it?

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: Like are you going to fix it? Or are you

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: going to like do better? Or if something great happens,

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: it's like what are you going to.

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Speaker 3: Do about it?

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01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: Like are you going to share it? Or are you going

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: to like enjoy it and revel in it? Like it's

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: it's really put a response to some things, and that's

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Speaker 1: what's locked a lot of cool experiences in For me.

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Speaker 4: I love that so much because you know, you can't

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 4: control a lot of what life throws your way, good

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01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 4: or bad, but it's really what you do about it

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01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 4: and how you action that that makes a difference between

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: a really yay field life or just sort of existing

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Speaker 4: and coasting along. I love that quote so much.

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Speaker 2: For mine, it's more of like a slogan flash model

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01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: that my mom inserted in me at like a very

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Speaker 2: young age, and she'd always make me say it when

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Speaker 2: I never wanted to say it, but it was I

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01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: can do it, I can do it. I can do

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Speaker 2: it with a smile on my faith, And I feel

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Speaker 2: like saying that just makes a lot of the things

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Speaker 2: that you don't want to do a lot easier, and

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: just when you do it, always smile because it just

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01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: makes it totally.

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Speaker 4: Those are both very on brand for CC, and we

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Speaker 4: thank you guys so much. You nailed the assignment. I

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 4: think we've all had a really hard start to the year,

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01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 4: where we thought, going into the third year of this madness,

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01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: you know, things would be going back to normal, including

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01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 4: our motivation and energy and drive to try new things,

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01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 4: and I think all of us have found ourselves coming

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 4: up a bit short, So if anyone has been sitting

1440
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 4: there needing a kick up the butt to think, whatever

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 4: that thing is that you think you can't do, you

1442
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 4: can probably fucking do it. Listen to these guys, like

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01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a better example going around that

1444
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 4: you can just push your limits and see what happens,

1445
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 4: and if you've got the right support network around you,

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 4: you can achieve your dreams and beyond. You guys are

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01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 4: absolutely extraordinary. Thank you so much for joining the show.

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01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 4: It was just so nice to see you again, and

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01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 4: you continued to inspire me every day.

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having Yeah, this was awesome

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: and it was really sweet to be able to see

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Speaker 1: you again.

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: We've got to catch up more often then, you know.

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Speaker 4: I just can't wait to share you with the world.

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01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: So exciting, ah, I just love these two so much.

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 4: They are so wholesome and so grounded. I can't believe

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: that only in their twenties, and I'm just so pleased

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01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 4: to have met them. Please go and have a look

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 4: at Gabe's incredible TikTok videos. He blows me away by

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01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 4: his makeup looks and how he puts lashes on without

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Speaker 4: limbs better than me. It is absolutely insane. The link

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Speaker 4: to his page is in the show notes. If you

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Speaker 4: enjoyed the chat, please shower these guys with love or

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01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 4: share and tag us and them and anyone else who

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01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 4: you think might benefit from this conversation so we can

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 4: reshare and keep growing the aighborhood. Their tags are also

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Speaker 4: in the show notes. I love it when the neighborhood

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Speaker 4: ramps up the interaction on socials after an episode and

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 4: in real life, which has happened a few times lately.

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Speaker 4: Nothing makes my life more than being stopped on the street.

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Speaker 4: It happened in NUSA the other day. It just makes

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Speaker 4: me want to cry. It makes me so unbelievably happy

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01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: to connect with you guys, beyond just knowing you've listened,

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01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 4: because the download numbers go up, the messages and hilarious

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Speaker 4: photos coming through after our Gallantines episode just made my week.

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01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 4: We had a lot of otters and a lot of

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Speaker 4: really hilarious best photos, so keep those coming along with

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 4: anything and everything you guys know. I love me a

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Speaker 4: DM back with and again for the next dose of

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Speaker 4: years of our lives, so stay tuned for that. In

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Speaker 4: the meantime, I hope you're having an amazing week and

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Speaker 4: are seizing your yay