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Speaker 2: Mamma Mere acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia out Loud and to our Friday show where

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Speaker 2: we take a break from the news cycle.

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Speaker 1: And breathe out.

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Speaker 3: He's sound relaxed.

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Speaker 1: It's the noise I make also after I drink tea,

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Speaker 1: which I happen to have here. Listened you want to

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Speaker 1: die today?

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, the fourth of October, and I am bollywayen

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Speaker 2: Wright only Friedman.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jesse Stevens and may you had a birthday this week.

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Speaker 3: And there are two things that make you sound of

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Speaker 3: well seamol. The first is what you just did like that.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: The second I've been wanting to bring this up, but

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Speaker 3: you know any thinker, but you don't bring it up.

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Speaker 3: Is that when you have scripts that sometimes I know

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Intro, you lick your finger when you.

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Speaker 2: Turn every time turns the page.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't help.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. It does because it gives you traction,

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Speaker 1: like it makes the page stick. But I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I was talking to someone else who

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Speaker 1: does this? Why does it start? When you are a

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Speaker 1: certain age you start licking your fingers and I.

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Speaker 3: Can hear it to microponion, and then you do it,

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Speaker 3: and my mum does it, and like your.

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Speaker 1: Brand does it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why I've never seen anyone under the edge

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I do it for your fingers

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Speaker 2: get less traction.

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Speaker 3: You lose the lubrication. It's like you.

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Speaker 1: Finger so you need friction on anyway, never mind.

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Speaker 2: On the show today, cheat codes for life?

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Speaker 1: Do you need one? What are they? And what are ours?

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Speaker 2: It's a chaotic Friday wisdom dump plus recommendations, which include

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Speaker 2: the TV show that I would really rather be at

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Speaker 2: home watching right now, and so would you.

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Speaker 1: Also, Jesse has something depressing for you to watch.

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Speaker 2: Correct and Mere's deep fashion hyper focus and ugly birthday cakes,

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Speaker 2: debunking teenage conspiracies, and a very confronting driver's license photo.

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Speaker 1: Yes it's our best and worst, but first we are

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Speaker 1: Friedman friends. Have you noticed something weird is happening with

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Speaker 1: party invitations? Jesse? You drew it to my attention and

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Speaker 1: now I'm noticing it everywhere. What's going on?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: What is going on. There was an article in Slate

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Speaker 3: all about this new trend where party invitations they're arriving

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Speaker 3: too early, earlier and earlier. They think we don't notice.

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Speaker 3: But this Shria Murphy, She's created an event planning app.

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Speaker 3: She's actually charted this. She actually has some data to

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Speaker 3: support her point, which is that they've seen a fourteen

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Speaker 3: the invitations are being sent twenty percent earlier than they

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Speaker 3: ever have. So you're not imagining it. You are getting

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Speaker 3: invites for things in twenty twenty five, which is in

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Speaker 1: I got invited to a wedding mix him and I

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Speaker 1: got invited to It is a destination though, three or

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Speaker 3: I think that's your exception. My thing is like it'll

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Speaker 3: be a kid's birthday invitation, or it'll be girls drinks,

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Speaker 1: Well like with a like one of those paper paperless

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Speaker 1: post Do you mean that you get chat both both? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Like someone will say, let's make it so for my

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Speaker 1: group chats when we try to organize something, often it

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Speaker 3: So we're too busy. Are we all too busy? And

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Speaker 3: great question. Well, what's awkward about this whole thing is

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Speaker 3: that I'm free next weekend and actually the weekend after.

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Speaker 3: So I keep getting these invites and it's like, pencil

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Speaker 1: Me feel claustrophobic committing to anything more than two weeks

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Speaker 1: A wedding or a big occasion, like when we did

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Speaker 1: our upfronts for work, I know this is a work

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Speaker 1: function but we did a save the date. A save

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Speaker 1: the date basically means we don't have our shit together

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Speaker 3: I understand that, especially when big bucks are being spent,

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Speaker 1: It's just DIBs.

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Speaker 2: It's just somebody going I'm calling DIBs on that day,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to call DIBs in that day ages

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Speaker 2: in advance, because then none of you have got an

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Speaker 2: because as Mia just said, we've all got ridiculously busy.

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Speaker 2: I Am not that popular or busy, but I've got

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Speaker 3: Year, and that's because you're away every weekend. Tollywayne right,

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Speaker 3: You've got a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: But then I'm a last minute person, so I will

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Because you're either a last minute personally or not. I

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Speaker 1: Okay. My view on this is that it is about

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Speaker 3: Do you guys use polls?

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 3: Every group chat I have now has a pole function

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to do this, but I've.

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Speaker 1: Got to learn.

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Speaker 1: You made a poll.

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Speaker 3: I made a poll and I said, can you do

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Speaker 3: the twenty first of October for dinner. Can you do this?

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Speaker 1: Day's such a good idea. And then we just go

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Speaker 1: on everyone's back and I can do it. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: for you, Jesse, can you make that date?

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Speaker 3: And you're like, no, the most popular date wins. What's

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Speaker 3: your cheat code for life? I just told you mine,

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Speaker 3: and it's my polls. But there was a good one.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one. The thing you swear by that

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Speaker 3: There is a Reddit thread going viral where people share

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Speaker 3: their insights, and some are pretty obvious, from looking people

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Speaker 3: in the eye to learning to say no to getting

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Speaker 3: enough sleep. Here are some other popular examples I came

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Speaker 3: across get everything in writing. So if you're in a

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Speaker 3: sounds a bit like I would want to just confirm that.

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Speaker 3: Get it in writing. Another one is you can make

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Speaker 3: more friends in two months by becoming interested in other

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Speaker 1: That's very good advice.

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Speaker 3: I love that one. And no one stops someone carrying pizza.

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Speaker 3: You can get backstage at concerts. Now we don't can

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Speaker 3: don't trespassing, but think about it. If someone came to

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Speaker 1: Don't give people ideas unless they have pizza, in which

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Speaker 3: You're allowed. We asked people in the Mummeya office what

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Speaker 3: their cheat code to life is, and here's what they

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Speaker 4: My life pack is don't put the email address of

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Speaker 5: The biggest lesson it was actually from my dad that

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Speaker 5: my dad ever taught me was always admit when you've

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Speaker 6: When I'm feeling overwhelmed, I try to take a moment

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Speaker 7: When I'm talking to someone new, I try to remember

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Speaker 8: So if I'm ever in a situation where I'm asked

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Speaker 2: Hell, people who are very much like you know, oh

441
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Speaker 2: you used to think this, and no you think that,

442
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Speaker 2: and you said that that time and all that stuff.

443
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Speaker 2: They don't know what they're doing. Those people, they're silly.

444
00:19:53,047 --> 00:19:55,887
Speaker 2: And if you don't have a better idea, shut the

445
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Speaker 2: fuck up.

446
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Speaker 1: That is something I was by a lot.

447
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Speaker 2: You know, when you're just like I don't like that,

448
00:20:02,607 --> 00:20:04,407
Speaker 2: that's wrong. Da da da da da, And you can

449
00:20:04,447 --> 00:20:07,927
Speaker 2: get into a really negative cycle. You've got to ask yourself,

450
00:20:07,967 --> 00:20:09,047
Speaker 2: have I got a better idea?

451
00:20:09,327 --> 00:20:09,767
Speaker 1: Do I think?

452
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Speaker 3: How would I do it?

453
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Speaker 1: And honest yeah, is it better? Always? Yeah, that's what?

454
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Speaker 3: And can you be bothered to do it? Because you

455
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Speaker 3: probably can't, in which case forget about it.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

457
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Speaker 3: There are some Okay, mine are weird. Good one that

458
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Speaker 3: I have is about memory. I've said it before, years

459
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Speaker 3: and years ago, but this is something I did when

460
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Speaker 3: I was studying at school, and I read this fact

461
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Speaker 3: somewhere and the fact might not be true. It doesn't matter.

462
00:20:36,327 --> 00:20:39,127
Speaker 3: If you want to remember something, memorize something, whether it's

463
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Speaker 3: like a speech or a fact or notes. I'll print

464
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Speaker 3: it on green paper. I read it once. Apparently if

465
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Speaker 3: you read off green paper, it's a trigger for memory.

466
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Speaker 2: Do you have green paper for that purpose?

467
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Speaker 3: I used to. I haven't needed it recently, but if

468
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Speaker 3: I was like doing a speech where I felt like

469
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Speaker 3: I needed to know this completely off by heart. I

470
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Speaker 3: would do it on green paper.

471
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Speaker 1: I wonder if you can replicate that on your phone,

472
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Speaker 1: because I mean, who's going to go out and buy

473
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Speaker 1: green paper?

474
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Speaker 3: See? I always do paper. I think phones very very different.

475
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Speaker 3: I think that my brain is wired to forget everything

476
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Speaker 3: I look at that's on are I think when it's

477
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Speaker 3: on paper, it holds totally different.

478
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Speaker 1: So did you like print out all your school notes

479
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Speaker 1: on green paper? Yeah?

480
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Speaker 3: Yep? And how green green that I'm still like read

481
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Speaker 3: it like that the black is still visible. But even

482
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Speaker 3: if it's not, if I'm telling my brain this green

483
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Speaker 3: paper means I'll memorize it, it's like pale green.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

485
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Speaker 3: So that's always helped me. My rule for emails or

486
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Speaker 3: messages or anything is do not open it until you

487
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Speaker 3: can reply.

488
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Speaker 2: That's a really good rule because I always forget that rule,

489
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Speaker 2: and that's why I'm very bad on email.

490
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Speaker 1: I've got a minute, I'm going to read it. I'll go.

491
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Speaker 1: I'll get back to that later. No, I won't.

492
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Speaker 3: Now, my memory is not good enough for that. I

493
00:21:45,807 --> 00:21:50,647
Speaker 3: use the Pomodori method for just about everything. Yeah, so timing, yep.

494
00:21:50,887 --> 00:21:54,007
Speaker 3: I have a stopwatch for everything I do, what it is.

495
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Speaker 3: It's like recently I had this big ish project that

496
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Speaker 3: I had to complete, and it was like pulling teeth.

497
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Speaker 3: I just was not enjoying any I knew I needed

498
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Speaker 3: to do it, but it was a job, and every

499
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Speaker 3: time I sat down to do it, I would go,

500
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Speaker 3: you're going to do twenty minutes. Look the clock, time

501
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Speaker 3: it now, and just get twenty minutes of it.

502
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Speaker 1: So it's like you almost have to sneak up on yourself. Yep, yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: I do that.

504
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Speaker 2: I set thirty minutes on my phone, and then I

505
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Speaker 2: put my phone in a drawer somewhere away.

506
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Speaker 3: Yep.

507
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Speaker 2: And then when my thirty minutes goes off, that I focus.

508
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Speaker 2: I'm allowed to play with my phone for four minutes.

509
00:22:26,927 --> 00:22:28,647
Speaker 1: Then I have to put another timer on.

510
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Speaker 3: It actually makes you satisfied because sometimes when you're doing projects,

511
00:22:32,447 --> 00:22:35,047
Speaker 3: you can spend twenty minutes doing something and you've got

512
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Speaker 3: no more words, and you actually don't feel like you've

513
00:22:37,647 --> 00:22:39,647
Speaker 3: got anywhere, but you always have. So it's a way

514
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Speaker 3: of measuring progress. Another one I have is when you're

515
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Speaker 3: speaking to someone and they're telling you something, say you're right,

516
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Speaker 3: rather than I know, like if I'm really engaged and Holly,

517
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Speaker 3: you're telling me about the substance and your analysis of it,

518
00:22:55,327 --> 00:22:58,007
Speaker 3: and I say, yeah, I know, yeah, I know. It's

519
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Speaker 3: quite dismissive, and it sounds like I think I know everything.

520
00:23:00,767 --> 00:23:04,047
Speaker 3: It makes you feel a lot smarter if I'm like, oh, yeah,

521
00:23:04,047 --> 00:23:06,687
Speaker 3: you're right, you're right, it's true, which I think is

522
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Speaker 3: helpful for relation.

523
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Speaker 1: That's interesting tangent on that is that I found this

524
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Speaker 1: particularly when I had little kids and everyone's giving you

525
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Speaker 1: a lot of advice. Oh, and people like push it

526
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Speaker 1: onto you. And I used to try and push back

527
00:23:19,367 --> 00:23:21,247
Speaker 1: like I used to resent it, and then I realized

528
00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:25,807
Speaker 1: they'll keep going until you say, what a great idea, Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: that will shut them up. Then they'll move on because

530
00:23:28,607 --> 00:23:30,287
Speaker 1: they think that you're going to do it and you're not.

531
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Speaker 1: But you just say that to make them still on them.

532
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Speaker 1: You just go. That is such a if anyone's giving

533
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Speaker 1: you advice you don't want to take.

534
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Speaker 3: My last one is argue the point, not the person

535
00:23:40,567 --> 00:23:42,687
Speaker 3: related to that, and never argue on the internet. But

536
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Speaker 3: anyone I see, or even if I'm having a discussion

537
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Speaker 3: or an argument with someone, there is a threshold by

538
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Speaker 3: which they've completely lost me and it's like any name calling,

539
00:23:53,407 --> 00:23:57,127
Speaker 3: even in people that I really respect their opinion, It's like,

540
00:23:58,007 --> 00:24:00,127
Speaker 3: at that point, I've just write it off. And it's

541
00:24:00,127 --> 00:24:03,527
Speaker 3: something that's really really hard to keep yourself accountable for.

542
00:24:03,687 --> 00:24:05,327
Speaker 3: And I think I'm better at it now than I

543
00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,487
Speaker 3: was five years ago, and hopefully in five years I'll

544
00:24:07,527 --> 00:24:10,727
Speaker 3: be much much better at it. But like playing the ball,

545
00:24:10,807 --> 00:24:11,647
Speaker 3: not the player or whatever.

546
00:24:12,087 --> 00:24:14,207
Speaker 1: So you mean, like the way the Internet's made everyone

547
00:24:14,287 --> 00:24:18,007
Speaker 1: jump straight to you're a racist, you're a fascist, ye, or.

548
00:24:17,967 --> 00:24:22,127
Speaker 2: Even like the vice presidential debate this week, Roundly people

549
00:24:22,167 --> 00:24:24,367
Speaker 2: are generally saying Jade Vance won that and all the

550
00:24:24,487 --> 00:24:27,527
Speaker 2: leftist people don't like him, right, including myself. But rather

551
00:24:27,567 --> 00:24:29,727
Speaker 2: than admitting that he won that, you know, like, but

552
00:24:29,767 --> 00:24:30,767
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean we should all go.

553
00:24:30,767 --> 00:24:32,167
Speaker 1: Out and vote for him.

554
00:24:32,447 --> 00:24:34,887
Speaker 2: They're all going, look at his stupid way he looks stupid,

555
00:24:34,927 --> 00:24:37,047
Speaker 2: Look at his stupid eyeline. I look at his stupid

556
00:24:37,087 --> 00:24:39,247
Speaker 2: and it's not eyeliner. But that's not the point. But

557
00:24:39,327 --> 00:24:43,007
Speaker 2: it's like petty name calling. I'm like, immediately I think

558
00:24:43,007 --> 00:24:44,007
Speaker 2: a lot less of that person.

559
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

560
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Speaker 3: I also think that if we're having an argument and

561
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Speaker 3: you say something that I don't agree with, and then

562
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Speaker 3: I go, well, you would think that because and I

563
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Speaker 3: bring up something from your personal life, I've clearly lost

564
00:24:56,287 --> 00:24:58,727
Speaker 3: my either train of thought or my point, because if

565
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Speaker 3: my point's strong enough, then I don't need to start

566
00:25:01,087 --> 00:25:05,167
Speaker 3: character assassinating you or making assumptions about your life. Yeah,

567
00:25:05,207 --> 00:25:07,447
Speaker 3: it's something that I try and hold myself too.

568
00:25:07,287 --> 00:25:10,087
Speaker 1: Smart, because by calling someone a name, you just immediately

569
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Speaker 1: shut down any possibility of conversation.

570
00:25:13,287 --> 00:25:15,367
Speaker 2: Or making something personal that isn't personal.

571
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

572
00:25:16,207 --> 00:25:19,527
Speaker 2: Like, because then immediately just put somebody's back up and

573
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Speaker 2: you don't. Yeah, I agree, good one. I've got one

574
00:25:22,367 --> 00:25:28,127
Speaker 2: more sleep on it. Always, always, always, everything i'm really

575
00:25:28,207 --> 00:25:31,367
Speaker 2: really upset about. I nearly always feel better the next day.

576
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Speaker 2: So unless you can't sleep on it, because it's a

577
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Speaker 2: decision that needs to be made right now.

578
00:25:36,007 --> 00:25:39,567
Speaker 3: How about but everyone says about not going to bed

579
00:25:39,607 --> 00:25:41,607
Speaker 3: angry with your partner. What do you think of that?

580
00:25:42,287 --> 00:25:42,447
Speaker 1: Oh?

581
00:25:42,487 --> 00:25:46,567
Speaker 2: No, sometimes I'm not a grudge keeper, so I couldn't be.

582
00:25:46,767 --> 00:25:49,327
Speaker 2: Like I've got friends who cannot speak to their partner

583
00:25:49,367 --> 00:25:50,607
Speaker 2: for three days and live in the same house.

584
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Speaker 3: I could never ever do that.

585
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Speaker 2: It's just not my nature. It doesn't mean I'm particularly not.

586
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:57,527
Speaker 2: It's just like I'm more of a goldfish, do you

587
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. So that's not so much of

588
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Speaker 2: a problem.

589
00:26:00,927 --> 00:26:02,847
Speaker 1: I think they's sleep on it things interesting because I

590
00:26:02,887 --> 00:26:05,567
Speaker 1: try to be that sometimes, but then I do sleep

591
00:26:05,607 --> 00:26:08,087
Speaker 1: because you have to in the course of an argument,

592
00:26:08,647 --> 00:26:13,007
Speaker 1: and then I just kind of lose interest. Grade Maybe

593
00:26:13,047 --> 00:26:15,607
Speaker 1: that's good, right, yeah, because it can be frustrating when

594
00:26:15,647 --> 00:26:17,887
Speaker 1: I want to hold it. If it was worth holding,

595
00:26:18,287 --> 00:26:19,687
Speaker 1: you maybe would hold it.

596
00:26:19,727 --> 00:26:22,767
Speaker 3: Out Louders please jump in to the mummy or out

597
00:26:22,807 --> 00:26:25,007
Speaker 3: Louders Facebook group. We've got a thread in there that

598
00:26:25,087 --> 00:26:28,927
Speaker 3: will pin with a whole lot of cheat codes for life.

599
00:26:29,127 --> 00:26:31,807
Speaker 3: Please jump in and add yours. I am reading all

600
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Speaker 3: of them.

601
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Speaker 1: That's actually a low path.

602
00:26:39,407 --> 00:26:41,247
Speaker 2: It's Friday, and we're going to help you set up

603
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Speaker 2: your weekend for maximum pleasure and enjoyment and intellectual stimulation.

604
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Speaker 2: Mea Friedman, what is your recommendation for this week?

605
00:26:48,487 --> 00:26:53,127
Speaker 1: It's very specific And if anyone has been following some

606
00:26:53,167 --> 00:26:56,287
Speaker 1: of the videos I've been putting of my outfits on

607
00:26:56,367 --> 00:27:01,727
Speaker 1: Instagram lately, I've become very fixated with Copenhagen Street style.

608
00:27:01,887 --> 00:27:03,807
Speaker 2: See I don't know anything about this and I need

609
00:27:03,847 --> 00:27:04,767
Speaker 2: you to explain it to me.

610
00:27:04,807 --> 00:27:06,767
Speaker 3: Are you talking about Copenhagen the place?

611
00:27:06,927 --> 00:27:10,607
Speaker 1: Yeah, not the ice s creen, No, that's Hargan Dash.

612
00:27:11,007 --> 00:27:13,047
Speaker 3: Is there a brand Copenhagen.

613
00:27:13,327 --> 00:27:16,727
Speaker 1: No, it's a city, all right, Yeah, it was a city,

614
00:27:16,767 --> 00:27:20,407
Speaker 1: but in which our Mary is queen, the queen of that. Okay,

615
00:27:20,407 --> 00:27:22,247
Speaker 1: So I'm not very good about geography, and I just

616
00:27:22,327 --> 00:27:25,367
Speaker 1: learned that Copenhagen's in Denmark. I didn't know where it

617
00:27:25,407 --> 00:27:30,887
Speaker 1: was anyway. There's a particular style of fashion that comes

618
00:27:30,927 --> 00:27:35,367
Speaker 1: out of Copenhagen, and it's very I can't explain it.

619
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Speaker 2: Your vibe, right, your vibe, it's like cool edgy, baggy.

620
00:27:40,767 --> 00:27:44,087
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's things that don't match obviously. Do you know

621
00:27:44,127 --> 00:27:47,007
Speaker 1: how we did our three words? It's my three words,

622
00:27:47,007 --> 00:27:50,807
Speaker 1: so it's comfortable. It's a bit quirky. That wasn't one

623
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Speaker 1: of my words, but it's a bit quirky and it

624
00:27:52,567 --> 00:27:55,007
Speaker 1: sparks joy. So it's like there's a lot of color,

625
00:27:55,327 --> 00:27:56,727
Speaker 1: there's interesting textures.

626
00:27:56,847 --> 00:27:58,767
Speaker 2: Where do I find it? Because you keep telling me this,

627
00:27:58,807 --> 00:27:59,927
Speaker 2: but I haven't found any.

628
00:28:00,167 --> 00:28:03,247
Speaker 1: So I literally just go to YouTube, and this is

629
00:28:03,327 --> 00:28:04,887
Speaker 1: very interesting. I used to watch the news in the

630
00:28:04,887 --> 00:28:08,287
Speaker 1: morning when I was on the treadmill each morning. Now

631
00:28:08,647 --> 00:28:11,607
Speaker 1: I just go to YouTube exactly. I go to YouTube

632
00:28:11,727 --> 00:28:16,647
Speaker 1: and I just search Copenhagen street style and there are

633
00:28:16,727 --> 00:28:20,007
Speaker 1: videos and I just watch them. I just watch people

634
00:28:20,047 --> 00:28:24,367
Speaker 1: in Copenhagen and they ride bikes and they're stylish, and

635
00:28:24,447 --> 00:28:26,407
Speaker 1: I just watch them and it is so soothing and

636
00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:27,407
Speaker 1: usually there's music.

637
00:28:27,847 --> 00:28:30,407
Speaker 3: It's fun. I'm looking at it now. Was there a

638
00:28:30,407 --> 00:28:31,327
Speaker 3: fashion week recently?

639
00:28:31,887 --> 00:28:32,807
Speaker 1: A fashion week recently?

640
00:28:32,887 --> 00:28:34,047
Speaker 3: Like I like this purple thing.

641
00:28:34,207 --> 00:28:36,327
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is so Some of the brands that are

642
00:28:36,367 --> 00:28:39,407
Speaker 1: Copenhagen is Bauman, Fettergarten and Gharany is one that you

643
00:28:39,487 --> 00:28:42,047
Speaker 1: might have heard of. Those kind of iconic shoes. They're

644
00:28:42,047 --> 00:28:43,247
Speaker 1: called Garni ballery Is shoes.

645
00:28:43,847 --> 00:28:45,687
Speaker 2: Was gharney from Copenhagen, Yeah.

646
00:28:45,487 --> 00:28:49,527
Speaker 1: Gharney's I think it's all yeah no, but it's a style.

647
00:28:49,607 --> 00:28:52,207
Speaker 1: You don't have to buy those labels. It's not about

648
00:28:52,207 --> 00:28:53,847
Speaker 1: I don't let look at the things and go I'm

649
00:28:53,847 --> 00:28:56,727
Speaker 1: going to go and buy that thing. It's more a vibe.

650
00:28:57,007 --> 00:29:00,967
Speaker 1: It's a vibe and I'm just obsessed and I I

651
00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:02,687
Speaker 1: think I want to go and live in Copenhagen for

652
00:29:02,727 --> 00:29:04,447
Speaker 1: a bit next year. As if.

653
00:29:06,607 --> 00:29:08,887
Speaker 2: Next year you have you made yourself? I know, I

654
00:29:09,287 --> 00:29:10,487
Speaker 2: think it would be very exciting to.

655
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Speaker 1: Go and do that. I'm all for midlight. Yeah, I've

656
00:29:12,767 --> 00:29:15,807
Speaker 1: just stopped resisting my hyperfixations. And it's just like I'm

657
00:29:15,847 --> 00:29:18,367
Speaker 1: in Copenhagen at the moment, and that's where I like

658
00:29:18,407 --> 00:29:18,607
Speaker 1: to be.

659
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Speaker 3: You know how, when my little girl Learner is at

660
00:29:21,287 --> 00:29:24,207
Speaker 3: your place, sometimes she watches dogs at the park, dog TV,

661
00:29:24,367 --> 00:29:26,727
Speaker 3: Dog TV, This is your dog TV, this is my

662
00:29:26,807 --> 00:29:27,287
Speaker 3: dog TV.

663
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Speaker 1: It's really soothing for my brain because I can't just

664
00:29:31,407 --> 00:29:34,167
Speaker 1: be on the treadmill or anything without having something to watch.

665
00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:37,287
Speaker 1: But it's very, very soothing, particularly at the moment when

666
00:29:37,287 --> 00:29:40,047
Speaker 1: the news story is so blue and it's slow, because

667
00:29:40,047 --> 00:29:42,367
Speaker 1: often the videos are into my emotion and I don't

668
00:29:42,407 --> 00:29:44,207
Speaker 1: like talking. I don't want people to say what they're wearing.

669
00:29:44,247 --> 00:29:46,487
Speaker 1: I just like the ones with music that shows the

670
00:29:46,527 --> 00:29:49,487
Speaker 1: people walking in the street. All right, it's my creative mate.

671
00:29:49,647 --> 00:29:51,887
Speaker 1: Think I'll be here and I'll be gone. Is this Copenhagen?

672
00:29:51,967 --> 00:29:54,567
Speaker 1: What about this? I thought I was French. France isn't

673
00:29:54,567 --> 00:29:55,647
Speaker 1: that far from Denmark?

674
00:29:55,967 --> 00:29:56,167
Speaker 5: Maybe?

675
00:29:56,287 --> 00:29:57,007
Speaker 1: Anyway.

676
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Speaker 2: I can't even tell you how much I would rather

677
00:29:59,207 --> 00:30:02,207
Speaker 2: be at home right now watching nobody wants this.

678
00:30:02,527 --> 00:30:03,327
Speaker 1: I've just started.

679
00:30:03,727 --> 00:30:06,287
Speaker 9: We've done this podcast for like one hundred and eighteen episodes,

680
00:30:06,327 --> 00:30:07,807
Speaker 9: and this story you're telling it just.

681
00:30:07,767 --> 00:30:11,327
Speaker 1: Sounds like very familiar. All right, I could make healthier

682
00:30:11,367 --> 00:30:12,327
Speaker 1: relationship choices.

683
00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,607
Speaker 8: Hi everyone, I'm Joanne.

684
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Speaker 2: I'm Noah.

685
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Speaker 3: Did you know what. There's a rabbi here? No shit,

686
00:30:19,087 --> 00:30:20,367
Speaker 3: yeah where he.

687
00:30:20,287 --> 00:30:22,767
Speaker 1: Has a beard and he was definitely judging me. Sounds

688
00:30:22,767 --> 00:30:26,207
Speaker 1: like a rabbi. Here's your farm.

689
00:30:26,927 --> 00:30:29,847
Speaker 4: There is not a Jewish bone in her body unless

690
00:30:30,087 --> 00:30:33,247
Speaker 4: you put one in her sh you're the rabbi.

691
00:30:34,007 --> 00:30:34,647
Speaker 9: It's heart right.

692
00:30:35,167 --> 00:30:36,567
Speaker 1: I'm sure all the out Lauder is watching it.

693
00:30:36,567 --> 00:30:38,847
Speaker 2: In fact, they were in the group saying watch this,

694
00:30:38,967 --> 00:30:40,887
Speaker 2: and I was like, everybody's telling me to watch it.

695
00:30:40,967 --> 00:30:44,527
Speaker 2: We've all got to watch it. And it is on Netflix.

696
00:30:44,847 --> 00:30:49,127
Speaker 2: It is a rom com series starring Kirsten Bell and

697
00:30:49,207 --> 00:30:53,207
Speaker 2: Adam Brodie. And he's a rabbi and she's a chaotic

698
00:30:53,727 --> 00:30:58,327
Speaker 2: podcaster who has a sex podcast with her sister from Succession, Yes,

699
00:30:58,447 --> 00:31:01,847
Speaker 2: from Succession, she was Willa and they are falling in

700
00:31:01,927 --> 00:31:09,967
Speaker 2: love and it is the most delightful silly show. The

701
00:31:10,127 --> 00:31:13,047
Speaker 2: episodes are all short, which makes me happy. Some of

702
00:31:13,087 --> 00:31:15,647
Speaker 2: it's funny I've left out loud three times so far,

703
00:31:15,967 --> 00:31:17,887
Speaker 2: watch three episodes, so that's one last pre episode.

704
00:31:17,887 --> 00:31:18,447
Speaker 1: That's not bad.

705
00:31:19,167 --> 00:31:24,607
Speaker 2: The chemistry is amazing and I love it. My friends

706
00:31:24,607 --> 00:31:27,327
Speaker 2: based Emily in Paris, that's my thing. I want to watch.

707
00:31:27,607 --> 00:31:30,287
Speaker 1: My non Jewish friends keep texting me who was single?

708
00:31:30,447 --> 00:31:33,207
Speaker 1: Do you know any sexy rabbis you can introduce me to?

709
00:31:33,527 --> 00:31:37,167
Speaker 2: So I have questions for my Jewish friend because obviously,

710
00:31:37,207 --> 00:31:40,887
Speaker 2: because the plot line is he's a rabbi, she's not.

711
00:31:40,927 --> 00:31:44,007
Speaker 3: Jewish person, which is what I am.

712
00:31:44,207 --> 00:31:47,367
Speaker 2: And in fact, I listened to Kristin Bell and Adam

713
00:31:47,367 --> 00:31:50,447
Speaker 2: Brody being interviewed about this on Jax Shepherd's podcast Funny

714
00:31:50,447 --> 00:31:52,767
Speaker 2: that because he's married to Christin Bell, and it was

715
00:31:52,847 --> 00:31:55,487
Speaker 2: going to be called Shisa because they produced it obviously,

716
00:31:55,687 --> 00:31:57,407
Speaker 2: so siser is what they said.

717
00:31:57,447 --> 00:32:00,087
Speaker 1: It's like talked out of it. Yeah, it's like a slang.

718
00:32:00,247 --> 00:32:02,087
Speaker 1: It's not a derogatory term at least I don't think

719
00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:05,127
Speaker 1: it is. It's slang for a woman who isn't Jewish.

720
00:32:05,607 --> 00:32:08,727
Speaker 2: And so, for example, when Kristin Bell turns up at

721
00:32:08,727 --> 00:32:11,087
Speaker 2: the synagogue and all the family see her, and the

722
00:32:11,127 --> 00:32:13,687
Speaker 2: family are all very pissed off about the shiksa like

723
00:32:13,927 --> 00:32:15,727
Speaker 2: very pissed off, and that's gonna be the whole point

724
00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:15,967
Speaker 2: of this.

725
00:32:16,607 --> 00:32:17,367
Speaker 1: I wanted to know.

726
00:32:17,487 --> 00:32:19,047
Speaker 2: And I know you might not have watched enough of it,

727
00:32:19,167 --> 00:32:22,807
Speaker 2: but the stereotypes of the Jewish family in this are very,

728
00:32:23,647 --> 00:32:26,887
Speaker 2: very boldly drawn. Right there's the overbearing mother who she's

729
00:32:26,887 --> 00:32:28,647
Speaker 2: going to lose her mind if he doesn't marry a

730
00:32:28,727 --> 00:32:31,207
Speaker 2: Jewish woman. There's the sister in law who's going to

731
00:32:31,247 --> 00:32:32,967
Speaker 2: lose her mind if he doesn't marry a Jewish woman.

732
00:32:33,047 --> 00:32:35,087
Speaker 2: All the women are like ah, and the men are

733
00:32:35,087 --> 00:32:37,847
Speaker 2: all a bit woo. He himself is a wonderful character,

734
00:32:37,927 --> 00:32:41,207
Speaker 2: like a really good guy. Is that offensive?

735
00:32:41,927 --> 00:32:43,847
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not offended by it, Like, of all the

736
00:32:43,847 --> 00:32:45,527
Speaker 1: things that are going on at the moment, that's not

737
00:32:45,687 --> 00:32:50,727
Speaker 1: on my list of things that I find problematic. No, Like,

738
00:32:51,207 --> 00:32:55,087
Speaker 1: there's truth in stereotypes right often. And I'm only speaking

739
00:32:55,087 --> 00:32:57,327
Speaker 1: for myself, And again I haven't watched much of it,

740
00:32:57,407 --> 00:33:00,447
Speaker 1: so I don't know what's going to happen. But you know,

741
00:33:00,487 --> 00:33:06,567
Speaker 1: I think in these very mainstream blockbustery shows, there are

742
00:33:06,607 --> 00:33:09,207
Speaker 1: so many stereotypes that's kind of the point of them.

743
00:33:09,527 --> 00:33:12,087
Speaker 1: Like everyone is sort of reduced and there's like the

744
00:33:12,887 --> 00:33:15,727
Speaker 1: gay Asian best friend and you know, so it's like

745
00:33:15,887 --> 00:33:19,847
Speaker 1: there are many stereotypes of many different people. The thing

746
00:33:19,887 --> 00:33:22,327
Speaker 1: that I think is funny is that now the cool

747
00:33:23,167 --> 00:33:24,607
Speaker 1: job is being a podcast.

748
00:33:24,647 --> 00:33:26,767
Speaker 2: I know. And it's funny because her and her sister

749
00:33:26,807 --> 00:33:29,927
Speaker 2: are negotiating with Spotify to buy their podcast. In the

750
00:33:29,927 --> 00:33:33,207
Speaker 2: show Spotify like it's sex, sex, and Kristen Bell because

751
00:33:33,207 --> 00:33:35,127
Speaker 2: obviously she's getting a little bit cold feet because she's

752
00:33:35,167 --> 00:33:37,047
Speaker 2: about fall in love and she's like, it's not just sex,

753
00:33:37,087 --> 00:33:40,687
Speaker 2: it's feminism and blah blah blah, and she says to

754
00:33:40,727 --> 00:33:42,567
Speaker 2: her sister, we don't just want to be a call

755
00:33:42,607 --> 00:33:45,447
Speaker 2: your daddy knockoff, and her sister's like, no, God forbid,

756
00:33:45,447 --> 00:33:49,327
Speaker 2: that pays thirty five million dollars to get our show contemporary.

757
00:33:49,447 --> 00:33:52,527
Speaker 2: It's very contemporary. It's funny, it's cute. The chemistry is amazing.

758
00:33:52,567 --> 00:33:55,647
Speaker 2: And speaking of cheat codes, they said this on the

759
00:33:55,687 --> 00:33:58,327
Speaker 2: interview I saw, but their first kiss is billed as

760
00:33:58,367 --> 00:34:00,487
Speaker 2: the best kiss that either of them have ever had, right,

761
00:34:01,047 --> 00:34:03,887
Speaker 2: and it's supposed to be the most amazing kiss and

762
00:34:04,207 --> 00:34:07,087
Speaker 2: you can feel it through the screen. But she said

763
00:34:07,127 --> 00:34:11,007
Speaker 2: it was all about his hand on her face. So yeah,

764
00:34:11,847 --> 00:34:14,847
Speaker 2: speaking about cheat codes for life. Men and women just

765
00:34:14,927 --> 00:34:18,967
Speaker 2: need to know that that hand on face is hot, hot, hot,

766
00:34:19,007 --> 00:34:22,807
Speaker 2: hot hot. The chemistry is great. Anyway, that's my reco.

767
00:34:23,207 --> 00:34:28,807
Speaker 3: My reco is a documentary on Netflix and depressing. Look

768
00:34:28,847 --> 00:34:31,367
Speaker 3: I haven't watched the very very end yet, so I'm

769
00:34:31,447 --> 00:34:33,287
Speaker 3: unclear on that. But an out Louder put it in

770
00:34:33,287 --> 00:34:35,207
Speaker 3: the group over the weekend and was like, Jesse needs

771
00:34:35,247 --> 00:34:39,007
Speaker 3: to watch this. Oh my goodness, this show has blown

772
00:34:39,087 --> 00:34:42,247
Speaker 3: my mind. It's called Into the Fire The Lost Daughter,

773
00:34:42,487 --> 00:34:44,527
Speaker 3: and it's actually produced by Charlie's the Run.

774
00:34:45,967 --> 00:34:50,327
Speaker 10: She'd been missing twenty one years when they finally found me.

775
00:34:52,727 --> 00:34:54,767
Speaker 10: I was only seventeen years old when I put my

776
00:34:54,967 --> 00:34:58,167
Speaker 10: daughter of her adoption. Throughout my life, she's always in

777
00:34:58,167 --> 00:35:02,487
Speaker 10: my mind. When I found out she went missing, I thought,

778
00:35:02,487 --> 00:35:04,687
Speaker 10: I gotta find this kid alive. I don't care if

779
00:35:04,727 --> 00:35:07,207
Speaker 10: I have to walk over God's green Earth to do it.

780
00:35:08,327 --> 00:35:11,727
Speaker 10: If I couldn't do any nothing else for her, I

781
00:35:11,807 --> 00:35:12,447
Speaker 10: was going to do this.

782
00:35:13,847 --> 00:35:16,247
Speaker 3: And it's a two parter. It begins with a woman

783
00:35:16,327 --> 00:35:18,487
Speaker 3: named Kathy and she had a child when she was

784
00:35:18,527 --> 00:35:23,007
Speaker 3: sixteen who she placed for adoption. And it's complicated why

785
00:35:23,047 --> 00:35:24,767
Speaker 3: she made that decision. She was sort of pushed into

786
00:35:24,847 --> 00:35:27,927
Speaker 3: it by her mother, but she thought, I love this

787
00:35:28,047 --> 00:35:30,447
Speaker 3: baby and I want this baby to have the most

788
00:35:30,487 --> 00:35:33,607
Speaker 3: incredible life she can possibly have. She named the baby Alexis.

789
00:35:34,047 --> 00:35:36,127
Speaker 3: Wanted her to find the best family, and so the

790
00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:38,527
Speaker 3: agency said, we found this great family. So she goes

791
00:35:38,567 --> 00:35:40,127
Speaker 3: off to this family and she thinks about it every

792
00:35:40,167 --> 00:35:43,287
Speaker 3: single day, but it's a closed adoption, so she can't know.

793
00:35:43,487 --> 00:35:44,927
Speaker 3: And then she gets a letter in the mail. This

794
00:35:44,967 --> 00:35:48,007
Speaker 3: isn't a spoiler years and years later that says, Hi,

795
00:35:48,487 --> 00:35:50,807
Speaker 3: we're the adoption agency. We need a sample of your

796
00:35:50,887 --> 00:35:53,367
Speaker 3: DNA because a body has just shown up and we

797
00:35:53,407 --> 00:35:58,047
Speaker 3: think that it's your daughter and you're the only biological connection.

798
00:35:58,567 --> 00:36:01,367
Speaker 3: And so she's like, what has happened? And it turns

799
00:36:01,407 --> 00:36:03,807
Speaker 3: out that at fourteen her daughter went missing. So it's

800
00:36:03,847 --> 00:36:07,167
Speaker 3: anyone who has placed a child up for adoption your

801
00:36:07,207 --> 00:36:11,127
Speaker 3: worst nightmare. Now the re and why this is such

802
00:36:11,167 --> 00:36:14,847
Speaker 3: a fascinating documentary is because of Kathy, who has not

803
00:36:14,967 --> 00:36:17,487
Speaker 3: met this well, she didn't meet the charge. She saw

804
00:36:17,487 --> 00:36:19,487
Speaker 3: her last when she was about seven months old, but

805
00:36:19,927 --> 00:36:23,567
Speaker 3: fights to find out what happened, what the truth about

806
00:36:23,727 --> 00:36:27,527
Speaker 3: the family that she went to and uncovers all of

807
00:36:27,567 --> 00:36:29,687
Speaker 3: this stuff, like it's one of those documentaries that you're

808
00:36:29,727 --> 00:36:32,047
Speaker 3: sitting there and you just gasped. Luca and I were

809
00:36:32,087 --> 00:36:36,527
Speaker 3: just going, like the twists in the first episode are amazing.

810
00:36:36,087 --> 00:36:37,887
Speaker 1: And this is all real. When did that happen?

811
00:36:38,167 --> 00:36:40,567
Speaker 3: She got that letter in twenty ten, So it's about

812
00:36:40,567 --> 00:36:43,087
Speaker 3: what's been happening over really the last ten years.

813
00:36:43,727 --> 00:36:46,127
Speaker 1: It's just amazing, unusual shit.

814
00:36:46,207 --> 00:36:48,887
Speaker 3: Yeah. It is called Into the Fire The Lost Order,

815
00:36:48,927 --> 00:36:50,207
Speaker 3: and it is on Netflix.

816
00:36:52,727 --> 00:36:53,327
Speaker 1: Out loud as.

817
00:36:53,327 --> 00:36:55,087
Speaker 2: If you want to listen to us every day of

818
00:36:55,087 --> 00:36:57,687
Speaker 2: the week, and why wouldn't you, you can get access

819
00:36:57,727 --> 00:37:01,447
Speaker 2: to exclusive segments on Tuesdays and Thursdays by becoming a

820
00:37:01,487 --> 00:37:04,687
Speaker 2: Muma mea subscriber. Follow the link in the show notes

821
00:37:04,687 --> 00:37:07,607
Speaker 2: to subscribe, and a big thank you to all our

822
00:37:07,687 --> 00:37:13,287
Speaker 2: current subscribers.

823
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Speaker 1: It's time for our best and worst moments of the week,

824
00:37:21,567 --> 00:37:25,607
Speaker 1: where we share a little more from our personal lives. Holly,

825
00:37:25,607 --> 00:37:27,967
Speaker 1: do you want to kick off? What's your worst of

826
00:37:28,007 --> 00:37:28,487
Speaker 1: the week.

827
00:37:28,767 --> 00:37:31,847
Speaker 2: My worst of the week is that my daughter, like

828
00:37:31,967 --> 00:37:34,247
Speaker 2: every fourteen year old in the world, I imagine, is

829
00:37:34,287 --> 00:37:37,127
Speaker 2: addicted to TikTok. That's where she gets all her world

830
00:37:37,167 --> 00:37:40,327
Speaker 2: news from. Sometimes This is helpful because it's like adore

831
00:37:40,607 --> 00:37:42,607
Speaker 2: into a topic I want to discuss. So she'll be like,

832
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:45,567
Speaker 2: what's happening with Trump and Harris and the American election?

833
00:37:45,687 --> 00:37:47,607
Speaker 2: I want to know? Like I saw that he called

834
00:37:47,607 --> 00:37:49,567
Speaker 2: her a blah blah and she said blah, and I'm like,

835
00:37:49,887 --> 00:37:50,527
Speaker 2: teachable moment.

836
00:37:50,567 --> 00:37:51,047
Speaker 1: This is fun.

837
00:37:51,607 --> 00:37:55,767
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's just like a chaotic stream of conspiracy

838
00:37:56,487 --> 00:37:58,807
Speaker 2: that just makes you realize one of the many reasons.

839
00:37:58,607 --> 00:37:59,567
Speaker 1: Why the world is so weird.

840
00:37:59,567 --> 00:38:02,087
Speaker 3: But what I think I'm on Matilda's.

841
00:38:01,527 --> 00:38:02,527
Speaker 1: Ticto, I think you must be.

842
00:38:02,967 --> 00:38:05,567
Speaker 2: This week, in particular, we talked about the P. Diddy

843
00:38:05,807 --> 00:38:08,447
Speaker 2: allegations last week and the fact that he is currently

844
00:38:08,447 --> 00:38:11,847
Speaker 2: in jail and on an ever increasing slate of charges

845
00:38:11,927 --> 00:38:14,807
Speaker 2: of sexual abuse and sex trafficking and all kinds of

846
00:38:14,847 --> 00:38:19,087
Speaker 2: awful things. And Matilda's TikTok algorithm is clearly obsessed with this,

847
00:38:19,127 --> 00:38:21,447
Speaker 2: which is not great to start with, but it also

848
00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:25,287
Speaker 2: it's so blatantly misogynistic. Like so she'll sort of say

849
00:38:25,287 --> 00:38:27,607
Speaker 2: to me, so, what about that P Diddy stuff? And

850
00:38:27,647 --> 00:38:29,607
Speaker 2: I'll be like, oh God, And I'll be like, okay,

851
00:38:29,647 --> 00:38:31,167
Speaker 2: and let's talk about that a bit. And she's like,

852
00:38:31,647 --> 00:38:35,047
Speaker 2: I've heard that, like Beyonce knows about it, and Rihanna

853
00:38:35,127 --> 00:38:37,127
Speaker 2: knows about it, and it's all this person's fault and

854
00:38:37,127 --> 00:38:38,327
Speaker 2: that person's fault, and it's.

855
00:38:38,167 --> 00:38:40,047
Speaker 1: Always women, women, women, women women.

856
00:38:40,127 --> 00:38:42,527
Speaker 2: And she's like, and there's a big conspiracy about this

857
00:38:42,607 --> 00:38:44,407
Speaker 2: and this and this, and you're just like, whoa.

858
00:38:44,527 --> 00:38:47,567
Speaker 3: And there's a conspiracy theory about why Kanye got up

859
00:38:47,607 --> 00:38:50,407
Speaker 3: at the VMA yes and said I'm gonna let you

860
00:38:50,407 --> 00:38:54,447
Speaker 3: finish yep. And it's basically like Beyonce is at the center.

861
00:38:54,567 --> 00:38:56,407
Speaker 3: This is a conspiracy? Is it the center of the

862
00:38:56,447 --> 00:38:58,807
Speaker 3: p didy thing? I can't even fully follow it, but

863
00:38:58,927 --> 00:39:00,527
Speaker 3: my algorithm wants me to believe.

864
00:39:00,287 --> 00:39:02,487
Speaker 2: And it so it's like, this is what Matilda's saying

865
00:39:02,527 --> 00:39:04,527
Speaker 2: to me. The reason that everybody at the Grammy's always

866
00:39:04,527 --> 00:39:06,647
Speaker 2: thanks Beyonce is because they have to or they'll get murdered.

867
00:39:06,687 --> 00:39:10,767
Speaker 2: Like she's like, very it's this right ever escalating, and

868
00:39:10,807 --> 00:39:12,847
Speaker 2: so you're always trying to pull it back down. So

869
00:39:12,927 --> 00:39:15,167
Speaker 2: maybe we're trapped in the cargoing somewhere and that's great,

870
00:39:15,167 --> 00:39:17,087
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, so, you know, this is what

871
00:39:17,127 --> 00:39:18,847
Speaker 2: appears to have happened, and I'll be talking to her

872
00:39:18,927 --> 00:39:21,847
Speaker 2: about really serious things about how women can find themselves

873
00:39:22,927 --> 00:39:25,047
Speaker 2: abused in this situation, blah blah, blah blah. And she's

874
00:39:25,127 --> 00:39:26,927
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, but what about that, Taylor.

875
00:39:26,687 --> 00:39:30,207
Speaker 3: Swift just like, oh my god, we're all being radicalized,

876
00:39:30,367 --> 00:39:31,007
Speaker 3: all being.

877
00:39:30,887 --> 00:39:34,247
Speaker 2: Radicalized, and it's very hard to unpick like the good

878
00:39:34,327 --> 00:39:36,167
Speaker 2: the bad. And I know that it's easy to say, well,

879
00:39:36,207 --> 00:39:39,807
Speaker 2: she shouldn't be on TikTok, but TikTok's where they live,

880
00:39:40,527 --> 00:39:42,367
Speaker 2: so bring on the band so I don't have to

881
00:39:42,447 --> 00:39:46,047
Speaker 2: deal with this anymore. I don't think that's going to happen.

882
00:39:46,167 --> 00:39:48,887
Speaker 2: My best though, also involved spending time with kids, as

883
00:39:48,967 --> 00:39:51,487
Speaker 2: people who follow me know and indeed who listen to

884
00:39:51,487 --> 00:39:54,367
Speaker 2: this pod at and mid Is. We've been sponsored lately

885
00:39:54,367 --> 00:39:57,167
Speaker 2: by Discovery Parks, and this isn't a sponsorship, but it's

886
00:39:57,167 --> 00:39:59,247
Speaker 2: meant that we've gone away a couple of times, right,

887
00:39:59,287 --> 00:40:01,487
Speaker 2: which has been really nice as a family to go

888
00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:05,407
Speaker 2: away for weekends. And it's the school holidays, and I'm

889
00:40:05,487 --> 00:40:07,087
Speaker 2: up in Sydney a lot for work, and there's a

890
00:40:07,127 --> 00:40:08,967
Speaker 2: lot of time I don't get to spend with the kids,

891
00:40:09,007 --> 00:40:11,767
Speaker 2: and so so having these little concentrated moments where we're

892
00:40:11,767 --> 00:40:13,887
Speaker 2: all in the same place together has been amazing. We're

893
00:40:13,887 --> 00:40:16,087
Speaker 2: actually going on holiday, not anything to do with that

894
00:40:16,807 --> 00:40:19,607
Speaker 2: next week, And I don't know, I just love. I

895
00:40:19,647 --> 00:40:21,607
Speaker 2: know some people don't love holidays. Me as one of them.

896
00:40:22,127 --> 00:40:26,207
Speaker 1: I love and immorced togetherness.

897
00:40:25,607 --> 00:40:28,407
Speaker 3: Of a fact since becoming a parent, the amount of

898
00:40:28,447 --> 00:40:30,847
Speaker 3: people who say you never have a holiday again when

899
00:40:30,847 --> 00:40:32,927
Speaker 3: you're a parent, Do you agree or disagree?

900
00:40:33,007 --> 00:40:33,807
Speaker 1: Disagree? Now?

901
00:40:34,087 --> 00:40:36,167
Speaker 2: Okay, So I saw Sally Heptath writing about this on

902
00:40:36,207 --> 00:40:39,527
Speaker 2: her Instagram recently. Actually, there's a moment that ticks over.

903
00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:43,087
Speaker 2: So when your kids are little, family holidays can just

904
00:40:43,127 --> 00:40:46,327
Speaker 2: be they're just relocations. You go somewhere and you've got

905
00:40:46,367 --> 00:40:48,047
Speaker 2: to follow them around all the time. You haven't got

906
00:40:48,087 --> 00:40:50,847
Speaker 2: all your usual distractions, you won't get a break.

907
00:40:51,207 --> 00:40:52,127
Speaker 1: But then there's a.

908
00:40:52,087 --> 00:40:53,887
Speaker 2: Magical point where it ticks over. And this is what

909
00:40:53,927 --> 00:40:55,847
Speaker 2: Sally was saying on hers like she used to look

910
00:40:55,847 --> 00:40:57,887
Speaker 2: at the women lying by Paul's reading books while their

911
00:40:57,967 --> 00:40:59,207
Speaker 2: kids frolicked.

912
00:40:58,767 --> 00:41:00,327
Speaker 1: And be like that bitch.

913
00:41:00,767 --> 00:41:03,727
Speaker 2: And She's like, now I'm that bitch, and I'm now

914
00:41:03,767 --> 00:41:05,927
Speaker 2: that bitch. So these trips we've gone on, there are

915
00:41:06,007 --> 00:41:08,167
Speaker 2: lots of things for the kids to do, and they

916
00:41:08,167 --> 00:41:10,367
Speaker 2: can go and do them and I actually get a holiday,

917
00:41:10,447 --> 00:41:15,007
Speaker 2: and so now it's much more enjoyable, relaxing, and you're

918
00:41:15,007 --> 00:41:18,367
Speaker 2: together and you haven't got all the distractions and they've

919
00:41:18,367 --> 00:41:19,527
Speaker 2: got to do this and I've got to do that,

920
00:41:19,567 --> 00:41:21,687
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it's nice to be reminded sometimes

921
00:41:21,687 --> 00:41:23,087
Speaker 2: that you like your family.

922
00:41:24,807 --> 00:41:30,407
Speaker 3: My worst was actually related to last week. I was

923
00:41:30,527 --> 00:41:32,167
Speaker 3: kind of under the weather and I just had a

924
00:41:32,167 --> 00:41:35,487
Speaker 3: lot going on last week and I finished recording for

925
00:41:35,527 --> 00:41:37,687
Speaker 3: Fridays out loud and I just felt like I'd done

926
00:41:37,687 --> 00:41:41,527
Speaker 3: a ship job and I was driving home and it's

927
00:41:41,567 --> 00:41:43,807
Speaker 3: one of the worst feelings in the world where you

928
00:41:43,887 --> 00:41:46,327
Speaker 3: just feel like you tried your best but you couldn't

929
00:41:46,327 --> 00:41:48,007
Speaker 3: give it one hundred percent that day, and you know

930
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:49,487
Speaker 3: that if you recorded that or if you did that

931
00:41:49,487 --> 00:41:52,487
Speaker 3: piece of work on a different day, you'd have done better.

932
00:41:53,007 --> 00:41:55,607
Speaker 3: And I just felt I hate that feeling.

933
00:41:55,727 --> 00:41:57,887
Speaker 1: You know, this is where we have, of course, and

934
00:41:57,927 --> 00:41:58,567
Speaker 1: it will be mean.

935
00:42:00,967 --> 00:42:03,967
Speaker 3: Nought this week.

936
00:42:04,447 --> 00:42:06,287
Speaker 1: I always carrying.

937
00:42:07,327 --> 00:42:10,087
Speaker 3: It's just I've had with a few things. So the

938
00:42:10,167 --> 00:42:12,007
Speaker 3: few you know, whether it's an event or something, and

939
00:42:12,047 --> 00:42:14,247
Speaker 3: you walk off and you kind of go, oh, oh, my.

940
00:42:14,207 --> 00:42:17,167
Speaker 1: Best I don't have that. I get like God, I

941
00:42:17,247 --> 00:42:21,487
Speaker 1: was good. No, but I do like often after Friday Show,

942
00:42:21,727 --> 00:42:25,687
Speaker 1: I'll be like, God, I'm sick of myself. I'm sick

943
00:42:25,727 --> 00:42:28,807
Speaker 1: of my opinions, I'm sick of my voice, I'm sick

944
00:42:28,847 --> 00:42:31,527
Speaker 1: of my face. I'm just I need to be in

945
00:42:31,567 --> 00:42:35,887
Speaker 1: a dark room, not saying anything, just looking at Copenhagen

946
00:42:35,887 --> 00:42:39,287
Speaker 1: fashion video. So yeah, it's like that kind of yucky.

947
00:42:39,047 --> 00:42:41,727
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I get stuck kind of ruminating on it.

948
00:42:41,887 --> 00:42:43,727
Speaker 2: You know what though, I'm just going to say, I

949
00:42:43,727 --> 00:42:46,087
Speaker 2: know it's like Pollyanna, but I was listening to people

950
00:42:46,127 --> 00:42:48,847
Speaker 2: talk about the football game that's this weekend, the NRL

951
00:42:48,887 --> 00:42:51,527
Speaker 2: Grand Final, and they're saying that Nathan Cleary, Mary Fowler's

952
00:42:51,567 --> 00:42:54,287
Speaker 2: boyfriend as we all know him, with a broken shoulder

953
00:42:54,367 --> 00:42:57,847
Speaker 2: as he has, it's still going to be better, all right, podcast, Yes,

954
00:42:58,087 --> 00:43:01,847
Speaker 2: like Nathan Cleary with a broken shoulder is better than no, Nathan, clearly,

955
00:43:01,927 --> 00:43:09,007
Speaker 2: Jesse Stevens. Yeah, fifty is still better than ninety, better

956
00:43:09,007 --> 00:43:09,847
Speaker 2: than you, better than me.

957
00:43:10,367 --> 00:43:14,207
Speaker 3: Yeah, very often it's true. My best is it was

958
00:43:14,247 --> 00:43:21,247
Speaker 3: aforementioned Mia turned older this week turned fifty three. I

959
00:43:21,287 --> 00:43:24,087
Speaker 3: had a morning on Tuesday at home and I went,

960
00:43:24,167 --> 00:43:26,807
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make this bitch of cake. Oh you're so nice,

961
00:43:26,967 --> 00:43:29,927
Speaker 3: because I am a tild wife now and this has

962
00:43:29,927 --> 00:43:33,167
Speaker 3: been a really interesting narrative clot point. But I was like,

963
00:43:33,247 --> 00:43:37,047
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make trad lives make cake, and so I

964
00:43:37,127 --> 00:43:38,767
Speaker 3: told me it's daughter. I was like, I'm gonna make

965
00:43:38,767 --> 00:43:40,847
Speaker 3: a cake because I had to make it real. And

966
00:43:40,927 --> 00:43:43,767
Speaker 3: she said this is me as favorite cake because in

967
00:43:43,807 --> 00:43:46,007
Speaker 3: my head I was going to make a really simple cake.

968
00:43:46,047 --> 00:43:47,647
Speaker 3: But then she was like, this is me as favorite cake.

969
00:43:48,407 --> 00:43:50,287
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. It was the most complicated.

970
00:43:50,687 --> 00:43:53,687
Speaker 1: It's literally called simple I know that's true. It's called

971
00:43:53,727 --> 00:43:56,767
Speaker 1: simple chocolate cake. It's a taste recipe and I literally

972
00:43:56,807 --> 00:43:59,887
Speaker 1: googled simple chocolate cake and it got me this recipe

973
00:43:59,887 --> 00:44:03,047
Speaker 1: and it was so yummy. Yeah when I made it.

974
00:44:03,007 --> 00:44:05,007
Speaker 3: Yes, when you made it, So you have to do

975
00:44:05,047 --> 00:44:07,127
Speaker 3: something on a stove. Anyway, I tried really really hard.

976
00:44:07,167 --> 00:44:09,247
Speaker 3: But what point did I know what had gone wrong?

977
00:44:09,527 --> 00:44:11,287
Speaker 3: I think when I poured it into the cakedin I

978
00:44:11,367 --> 00:44:13,247
Speaker 3: knew it was too thin, and then I went ittle

979
00:44:13,327 --> 00:44:15,327
Speaker 3: rise in the oven, but it didn't. So it kind

980
00:44:15,367 --> 00:44:18,807
Speaker 3: of looked like a brownie but tasted like frisbee.

981
00:44:18,927 --> 00:44:22,367
Speaker 1: But but what strange is where the rest of the

982
00:44:22,447 --> 00:44:25,727
Speaker 1: cake was because I've made that cake with that mixture,

983
00:44:26,327 --> 00:44:28,967
Speaker 1: and it's like, I think the problem is you didn't

984
00:44:29,007 --> 00:44:30,247
Speaker 1: put in self raising flower.

985
00:44:30,287 --> 00:44:31,807
Speaker 3: I think that's what we did. So what I did

986
00:44:31,887 --> 00:44:34,047
Speaker 3: is I'm patty. I made the cake and I brought

987
00:44:34,087 --> 00:44:35,887
Speaker 3: it over. And this is why it's my best is

988
00:44:35,887 --> 00:44:38,207
Speaker 3: because I was thinking on the way over, there are

989
00:44:38,247 --> 00:44:40,647
Speaker 3: so many women with their mother in laws who would

990
00:44:40,647 --> 00:44:43,887
Speaker 3: be terrified, who would have a mother in law who

991
00:44:43,967 --> 00:44:46,487
Speaker 3: would really judge them for whether or not they're cooking

992
00:44:46,487 --> 00:44:48,807
Speaker 3: a good meal, or whether or not their baby is

993
00:44:48,807 --> 00:44:51,927
Speaker 3: wearing dirty clothes, which often is all that kind of stuff.

994
00:44:51,967 --> 00:44:54,767
Speaker 3: And I thought, I am so lucky that this will

995
00:44:54,807 --> 00:44:58,287
Speaker 3: inevitably become a joke, And like I didn't actually feel

996
00:44:58,287 --> 00:45:00,967
Speaker 3: any pressure because I knew that it was the act

997
00:45:00,967 --> 00:45:03,007
Speaker 3: of trying to make a cake that would innately be

998
00:45:03,127 --> 00:45:06,167
Speaker 3: funny and that Maya would appreciate that. So then when

999
00:45:06,167 --> 00:45:08,047
Speaker 3: we cut the cake, we all just sat around trying

1000
00:45:08,087 --> 00:45:10,367
Speaker 3: to guess what made it shit, which it was like,

1001
00:45:10,527 --> 00:45:11,367
Speaker 3: is their eggs?

1002
00:45:11,567 --> 00:45:13,247
Speaker 1: And then she also brought M and M's and she

1003
00:45:13,407 --> 00:45:15,207
Speaker 1: icd it icing was delicious. I ate all of it.

1004
00:45:15,407 --> 00:45:17,487
Speaker 1: I'm going to put a photo of the cake in

1005
00:45:17,527 --> 00:45:19,727
Speaker 1: the out Louders newsletter this week.

1006
00:45:19,767 --> 00:45:21,487
Speaker 3: Maybe people can tell from looking at it what it

1007
00:45:21,567 --> 00:45:22,007
Speaker 3: was missing.

1008
00:45:22,447 --> 00:45:24,447
Speaker 1: And the thing is that it should have been my

1009
00:45:24,487 --> 00:45:27,687
Speaker 1: best actually of the week because no one else made

1010
00:45:27,687 --> 00:45:29,727
Speaker 1: an effort, Like I don't know if it's men in

1011
00:45:29,767 --> 00:45:32,607
Speaker 1: every family, just men in my family. They don't even understand.

1012
00:45:33,127 --> 00:45:36,247
Speaker 1: So Coco the night before put streamers up everywhere and

1013
00:45:36,287 --> 00:45:39,127
Speaker 1: blew up some balloons so that when I downstairs, Coco

1014
00:45:39,247 --> 00:45:41,887
Speaker 1: made an effort and she doesn't live in her house anymore,

1015
00:45:42,167 --> 00:45:45,527
Speaker 1: and Jesse made an effort. Luca did not even write

1016
00:45:45,527 --> 00:45:47,687
Speaker 1: me a card, and cards are my thing, like all

1017
00:45:47,727 --> 00:45:49,967
Speaker 1: I ask for is cards, like I don't expect anything.

1018
00:45:50,327 --> 00:45:52,247
Speaker 1: And the fact that Jesse did that when I know

1019
00:45:52,367 --> 00:45:54,607
Speaker 1: that cooking like that was just such a.

1020
00:45:54,447 --> 00:45:57,807
Speaker 3: Big made you a cake I was.

1021
00:45:58,407 --> 00:46:00,687
Speaker 1: It's the best. It's the best tasting cake of it

1022
00:46:00,687 --> 00:46:02,207
Speaker 1: that I know, but it's the best cake.

1023
00:46:02,167 --> 00:46:08,287
Speaker 3: It ever as a cake. So self phrasing flour is

1024
00:46:08,287 --> 00:46:09,207
Speaker 3: different flour yep.

1025
00:46:10,007 --> 00:46:11,967
Speaker 2: I wonder what it says about you if because Maya

1026
00:46:12,247 --> 00:46:14,327
Speaker 2: always says she can't cook, but she can bake, and

1027
00:46:14,447 --> 00:46:16,447
Speaker 2: I can cook, but I can't bake. So it's like

1028
00:46:16,487 --> 00:46:18,727
Speaker 2: I wonder there are bakers and there are cookers, right

1029
00:46:19,687 --> 00:46:22,207
Speaker 2: If I can make a pasta sauce like nobody's business,

1030
00:46:22,207 --> 00:46:24,367
Speaker 2: but I cannot bake a cake to save myself.

1031
00:46:24,367 --> 00:46:24,847
Speaker 3: The thing that.

1032
00:46:24,807 --> 00:46:27,327
Speaker 1: I reassured Jesse is that even if you make a

1033
00:46:27,367 --> 00:46:30,127
Speaker 1: shit cake, it's still a cake. So people aren't that

1034
00:46:30,247 --> 00:46:31,887
Speaker 1: sad because they can eat the icy.

1035
00:46:31,767 --> 00:46:33,407
Speaker 3: And I don't think it'll make you sick. Like, I

1036
00:46:33,447 --> 00:46:35,007
Speaker 3: don't think there was anything that bad.

1037
00:46:35,207 --> 00:46:39,247
Speaker 1: No, it was fine. My worst of the week was

1038
00:46:39,607 --> 00:46:44,287
Speaker 1: I had to go and get my driver's license renewed,

1039
00:46:44,847 --> 00:46:46,967
Speaker 1: and so I had to get a new photo and

1040
00:46:47,127 --> 00:46:49,167
Speaker 1: I went early because my son had to get his

1041
00:46:49,967 --> 00:46:52,807
Speaker 1: l's And that's been really fun too, driving with him.

1042
00:46:52,807 --> 00:46:54,967
Speaker 1: That's I've forgotten that that is actually quite fun, although

1043
00:46:54,967 --> 00:46:56,407
Speaker 1: that we're at the beginning of our one hundred and

1044
00:46:56,447 --> 00:46:59,167
Speaker 1: twenty hours, so talk to me after one hundred more hours.

1045
00:46:59,487 --> 00:47:01,967
Speaker 1: So he had to go to the RTA whatever it's called,

1046
00:47:02,007 --> 00:47:04,927
Speaker 1: the motoristue place, and I was like, oh, come as well,

1047
00:47:04,967 --> 00:47:07,367
Speaker 1: and I'll get renew my deals. Anyway, we thought we'd

1048
00:47:07,367 --> 00:47:09,247
Speaker 1: miss the crowds. It was Saturday morning. We were like

1049
00:47:09,327 --> 00:47:12,367
Speaker 1: the first ones there, like first minute that it opens.

1050
00:47:12,847 --> 00:47:14,887
Speaker 1: I just got up. I had a cup of tea,

1051
00:47:14,927 --> 00:47:16,527
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna be like put makeup and a

1052
00:47:16,607 --> 00:47:19,927
Speaker 1: showers just like in my like trackies and like whatever.

1053
00:47:20,447 --> 00:47:22,247
Speaker 1: You know how when you sometimes look and you just go,

1054
00:47:22,967 --> 00:47:25,167
Speaker 1: I just look natural. I just look like, you know,

1055
00:47:25,647 --> 00:47:26,487
Speaker 1: fresh natural.

1056
00:47:26,767 --> 00:47:28,767
Speaker 3: I look like myself, like I look by myself.

1057
00:47:28,767 --> 00:47:34,447
Speaker 1: So I did my picture whatever license arrived, and I like,

1058
00:47:34,527 --> 00:47:37,447
Speaker 1: I'm not a vain person as people say when they

1059
00:47:37,487 --> 00:47:39,407
Speaker 1: say that I'm on Instagram with no makeup and everything

1060
00:47:39,407 --> 00:47:42,167
Speaker 1: like that, but I was. I recoiled and I was

1061
00:47:42,247 --> 00:47:44,647
Speaker 1: actually I think I need to put this in the

1062
00:47:44,687 --> 00:47:48,167
Speaker 1: bin and get another one. And is that just too vain?

1063
00:47:48,247 --> 00:47:49,767
Speaker 1: Because it is so upsetting.

1064
00:47:49,927 --> 00:47:52,527
Speaker 2: Remember how I'm Vernham said that there's a whole service.

1065
00:47:52,607 --> 00:47:55,247
Speaker 1: Now that now I understand. I always didn't understand it,

1066
00:47:55,327 --> 00:47:57,847
Speaker 1: and now I understand it out louders. We also will

1067
00:47:57,847 --> 00:48:00,967
Speaker 1: put a photo of my driver's license photo in the

1068
00:48:01,327 --> 00:48:04,567
Speaker 1: newsletter show I would like people to showed us.

1069
00:48:04,607 --> 00:48:06,887
Speaker 2: And my first thing that I said to you, because

1070
00:48:06,887 --> 00:48:08,567
Speaker 2: it was true and you need to tear it, is you.

1071
00:48:08,487 --> 00:48:10,687
Speaker 1: Don't look that because you know what that that shock

1072
00:48:10,727 --> 00:48:12,527
Speaker 1: of like this is how I think I look and

1073
00:48:12,567 --> 00:48:15,127
Speaker 1: then there's that and you're like, wait, is that how

1074
00:48:15,167 --> 00:48:16,047
Speaker 1: I actually look?

1075
00:48:16,207 --> 00:48:18,127
Speaker 3: Yes, and we needed to confirm to you the person

1076
00:48:18,127 --> 00:48:20,127
Speaker 3: in that picture isn't you. And then when we did

1077
00:48:20,207 --> 00:48:22,407
Speaker 3: watch the substance and they're a bit where she turns

1078
00:48:22,407 --> 00:48:25,087
Speaker 3: into what I've been described as a Gollum like character.

1079
00:48:25,567 --> 00:48:27,327
Speaker 3: There was a lot of yelling look at me as.

1080
00:48:29,687 --> 00:48:31,607
Speaker 1: I had lots of fun putting that. It was an

1081
00:48:31,647 --> 00:48:34,247
Speaker 1: all agree about my driver's license. For my best of

1082
00:48:34,247 --> 00:48:38,607
Speaker 1: the week is loosely related. My parents are doing the

1083
00:48:38,647 --> 00:48:40,647
Speaker 1: great nomad thing a bit this year. They keep taking

1084
00:48:40,687 --> 00:48:45,287
Speaker 1: trips and they keep getting flat times. I mean, he's

1085
00:48:45,487 --> 00:48:47,847
Speaker 1: just every time I speak to them, they are by

1086
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Speaker 1: the side of a road somewhere in Australia, waiting for help.

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Speaker 1: And so this week it was they were I don't

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Speaker 1: even know where they are, somewhere in the South Coast,

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Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere. Because it was my birthday, they rang me

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Speaker 1: and they're like, guess where we are and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I forget where you've gone. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: paying attention, and they're like, we're by the side of

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Speaker 1: the road waiting. And last time I had Dad had

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Speaker 1: to change a tire and so I spoke to them

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00:49:12,927 --> 00:49:15,967
Speaker 1: today and she was like, you know, just keeps us occupied.

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Speaker 1: What would we do if we didn't have these exciting adventures?

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, what do you talk about. They've been married

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Speaker 3: a long time this way and it's all about.

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Speaker 1: The tire team, Gray Nomad caravan. They should. They don't

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Speaker 1: have a caravan. They need something that they can shelter

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Speaker 1: in when they're by the side of the.

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Speaker 2: Red And I get into that phase of life now

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Speaker 2: where when we see caravans, we'll like to think that's

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Speaker 2: the one we'll go on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one you need, like a motor home.

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Speaker 1: I think, because you don't want to toe something. It's

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Speaker 1: a long way away.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's in my future.

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Speaker 3: There is a world of caravan TikTok waiting for you.

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Speaker 3: I will say that it's a great place.

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Speaker 1: You've got some weird tiktoks. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: see all of those photos, the birthday cake, the driver's license,

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Speaker 1: there's a link in the show notes. If you're not

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Speaker 1: already subscribed to our newsletter, thank you out loud ers

1116
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Speaker 1: for being with us this week.

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Speaker 2: We will see you next week of course, and a

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Speaker 2: big thank you to our team executive producer Ruth Devine,

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Speaker 2: whose cheap tap is throwing people's names in the freezer

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Speaker 2: if they had what I do that?

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Speaker 3: Ha ha, Yeah you freezing? Oh my love does this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, put them in the freezer. But literally, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: write a piece of paper, yeah, and you put them

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Speaker 1: in the freezer. You like, she's going in the freezer.

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Speaker 3: Oh he in the Mighty grand famously did it to

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Speaker 3: someone and they got very sick. And then she stopped

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Speaker 3: doing it because she got scared that it was actually working.

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Speaker 1: It's meant to sort of take their power away from you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think they can't affect you anyway. Yeah, I like

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Speaker 1: a ship. Nor really scared of you.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're in freezers all over the country.

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Speaker 2: Seeing a producer Evelyn Gazillas, who swears by not sweating

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Speaker 2: the small.

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Speaker 3: So I can tell that's why she's a producing.

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Speaker 2: Way that she could be through life when things don't

1136
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Speaker 2: go away. She tells herself that show is to like

1137
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Speaker 2: the food. Audio produces Leo Porgies, who swears by writing

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Speaker 2: an email first ship.

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Speaker 1: That's very smart. I always do that too.

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Speaker 2: Lee is very clever and our social media producer is

1141
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Speaker 2: Isabelle Dolphin. His cheak code is not my monkey.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one too.

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Speaker 10: Bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to any Mum and Maya subscribers listening. If

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Speaker 1: you love the show and want to support us as well,

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00:51:16,047 --> 00:51:18,447
Speaker 1: subscribing to Mom and Miya is the very best way

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Speaker 1: to do so. There is a link in the episode

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Speaker 1: description