1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:20,505 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on youbies. It's time for 4 00:00:20,545 --> 00:00:24,305 Speaker 2: your weekly dose of stylinspo. So this time we're diving 5 00:00:24,385 --> 00:00:28,385 Speaker 2: into the art of building the ultimate capsule wardrobe. If 6 00:00:28,385 --> 00:00:30,585 Speaker 2: you've been using the start of the year to declutter 7 00:00:30,665 --> 00:00:33,785 Speaker 2: and refresh your closet and perhaps your beauty routine, which 8 00:00:33,785 --> 00:00:36,585 Speaker 2: we did recommend, but you feel lost when it comes 9 00:00:36,665 --> 00:00:41,065 Speaker 2: to choosing timeless, high quality pieces that you'll adore forever, well, 10 00:00:41,185 --> 00:00:42,985 Speaker 2: this episode is a bit of a guide for you, 11 00:00:43,145 --> 00:00:47,305 Speaker 2: so I hope you enjoy it. Whoever said orange is 12 00:00:47,305 --> 00:00:49,505 Speaker 2: a new pink with seriously disturbed. 13 00:00:49,225 --> 00:00:51,625 Speaker 1: Laurels for spring groundbreaking? 14 00:00:51,865 --> 00:00:53,065 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have. 15 00:00:53,185 --> 00:00:54,945 Speaker 1: To do it. You live for fashion. 16 00:00:56,385 --> 00:00:59,345 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 17 00:00:59,425 --> 00:01:02,305 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 18 00:01:02,545 --> 00:01:03,545 Speaker 1: I'm Leeg Campberlan. 19 00:01:03,705 --> 00:01:05,945 Speaker 2: Every week I talk to an expert who is going 20 00:01:05,985 --> 00:01:08,105 Speaker 2: to help us work out how to get more out 21 00:01:08,105 --> 00:01:10,625 Speaker 2: of the clothes we already own and tell us exactly 22 00:01:10,665 --> 00:01:14,025 Speaker 2: what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. If 23 00:01:14,025 --> 00:01:16,385 Speaker 2: you've been listening to the podcast for a while you'll 24 00:01:16,385 --> 00:01:20,065 Speaker 2: know we talk about capsual wardrobes a lot. My capture 25 00:01:20,105 --> 00:01:23,105 Speaker 2: wardrobe is any type of trench coat, a chambre shirt, 26 00:01:23,185 --> 00:01:25,985 Speaker 2: and lots of pairs of jeans, not all at once. 27 00:01:26,425 --> 00:01:28,665 Speaker 2: And today we are going to help you build yours 28 00:01:28,825 --> 00:01:31,585 Speaker 2: so you can find the perfect formula for your wardrobe. 29 00:01:32,105 --> 00:01:35,505 Speaker 2: Joining me is Zarawong. She has one of the most 30 00:01:35,545 --> 00:01:39,465 Speaker 2: subscribed to style newsletters. She cut her teeth working in 31 00:01:39,505 --> 00:01:42,225 Speaker 2: fashion magazines for over a decade at Half as Bizarre 32 00:01:42,305 --> 00:01:46,305 Speaker 2: and Vogue, where she was fashion features and content strategy director. 33 00:01:46,585 --> 00:01:50,345 Speaker 2: She is the most stylish woman. So I'm so excited, Sara, 34 00:01:50,825 --> 00:01:52,945 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. I think you're the guests I 35 00:01:52,945 --> 00:01:55,465 Speaker 2: wanted the most, and we harassed you a lot, and 36 00:01:55,505 --> 00:01:56,065 Speaker 2: you're here. 37 00:01:56,345 --> 00:01:57,345 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. 38 00:01:57,425 --> 00:02:00,025 Speaker 3: I can talk about clothes and shopping and fashion and 39 00:02:00,065 --> 00:02:01,305 Speaker 3: style till forever. 40 00:02:01,425 --> 00:02:02,425 Speaker 1: Why do you think I wanted you? 41 00:02:02,705 --> 00:02:05,585 Speaker 2: As you probably know, I asked new guests two questions. 42 00:02:05,785 --> 00:02:08,545 Speaker 2: The first run is can you describe your style in 43 00:02:08,665 --> 00:02:09,385 Speaker 2: three words? 44 00:02:09,825 --> 00:02:12,745 Speaker 3: I feel like it changes every day, but then you 45 00:02:12,825 --> 00:02:14,585 Speaker 3: always come back to the same three words. So I 46 00:02:14,625 --> 00:02:22,105 Speaker 3: think it's elegant, unexpected, and dramatic, elegant. 47 00:02:21,825 --> 00:02:24,505 Speaker 2: And unexpected for you is literally the words I had 48 00:02:24,545 --> 00:02:26,505 Speaker 2: in my head, like, you know your own style and 49 00:02:26,585 --> 00:02:28,585 Speaker 2: it's very unique and it's beautiful and I love it. 50 00:02:28,665 --> 00:02:31,225 Speaker 2: We're going to get into it now. There's a saying 51 00:02:31,305 --> 00:02:34,265 Speaker 2: and a bit of a theory that most people wear 52 00:02:34,305 --> 00:02:36,545 Speaker 2: ten percent of their wardrobe ninety percent of the time 53 00:02:36,705 --> 00:02:40,665 Speaker 2: being the items that they just grab wear love. The 54 00:02:40,705 --> 00:02:42,785 Speaker 2: other ninety percent they love but don't wear as much. 55 00:02:43,145 --> 00:02:44,705 Speaker 2: What's in your top ten percent? 56 00:02:45,105 --> 00:02:47,825 Speaker 3: Oh so hard to say, because, like I was saying 57 00:02:47,865 --> 00:02:49,905 Speaker 3: to people, I love clothes and I love fascist every 58 00:02:49,945 --> 00:02:51,665 Speaker 3: day and I'm like, what can I wear today? And 59 00:02:51,705 --> 00:02:54,225 Speaker 3: sometimes I even challenge myself. I go, oh, I loved 60 00:02:54,225 --> 00:02:56,305 Speaker 3: that dress that I bought last year. I haven't worn 61 00:02:56,345 --> 00:02:58,545 Speaker 3: it for a while. How can I make it work? 62 00:02:58,785 --> 00:03:03,305 Speaker 3: But at the moment, I'm actually wearing something now. I 63 00:03:03,345 --> 00:03:06,545 Speaker 3: bought this oratin skirt and it's got like flower applicant it. 64 00:03:06,665 --> 00:03:08,705 Speaker 1: I love it. Caveat is that. 65 00:03:08,665 --> 00:03:12,105 Speaker 3: It's kind of like a Prata inspired by I could 66 00:03:12,145 --> 00:03:14,225 Speaker 3: not afford the Prata one, which I loved and I loved. 67 00:03:14,225 --> 00:03:16,345 Speaker 3: It's like a little white apple case got start with 68 00:03:16,425 --> 00:03:19,585 Speaker 3: the gray net. So I bought this in summer I've 69 00:03:19,625 --> 00:03:22,185 Speaker 3: been wearing with like T shirts or like shirts or 70 00:03:22,185 --> 00:03:25,865 Speaker 3: like like nice tops for dinners out. You're really excited 71 00:03:25,865 --> 00:03:29,625 Speaker 3: for autumn winter to be wearing with like lush gray 72 00:03:29,705 --> 00:03:30,385 Speaker 3: cashmere neck. 73 00:03:30,545 --> 00:03:32,265 Speaker 2: Are you wearing it with like an oversized shirt today 74 00:03:32,265 --> 00:03:34,825 Speaker 2: which I wouldn't automatically wear like a white mini with, 75 00:03:34,905 --> 00:03:36,545 Speaker 2: But it's so cool because it's unexpected. 76 00:03:36,625 --> 00:03:39,705 Speaker 1: Yes, I love the content feminine. Yeah, I love it. 77 00:03:39,745 --> 00:03:41,985 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe, and I grew up in that, you know, 78 00:03:41,985 --> 00:03:43,585 Speaker 3: I worked in magazines, and I grew up in the 79 00:03:43,625 --> 00:03:47,705 Speaker 3: era of like Taylor Tamassa Hill or Giovanna Batalia and 80 00:03:47,745 --> 00:03:51,545 Speaker 3: they would clash like prints and fabric and textures. 81 00:03:51,625 --> 00:03:53,425 Speaker 1: That's what I love. Like, I love it when it's 82 00:03:53,425 --> 00:03:54,785 Speaker 1: got a bit of interest. 83 00:03:54,545 --> 00:03:56,705 Speaker 2: But you're also a mum, so it's in your ten percent, 84 00:03:56,825 --> 00:03:59,105 Speaker 2: like functional clothes or you don't do that. 85 00:03:59,305 --> 00:04:02,465 Speaker 3: I love getting dressed up, so I think for functional clothes. 86 00:04:02,505 --> 00:04:05,105 Speaker 3: I've got a pair of cos denim shorts that I 87 00:04:05,185 --> 00:04:06,425 Speaker 3: bought and I was like, you know what I'm gonna 88 00:04:06,465 --> 00:04:08,305 Speaker 3: wear all through summer and I love it. I've been 89 00:04:08,305 --> 00:04:10,545 Speaker 3: wearing it with like linen vas because I know Vessa 90 00:04:10,585 --> 00:04:13,425 Speaker 3: having a huge moment. I have this one from Posse, 91 00:04:13,505 --> 00:04:15,465 Speaker 3: which I will all the time. Actually in summer, I 92 00:04:15,505 --> 00:04:17,625 Speaker 3: will vest like three times a week, so they're any 93 00:04:17,665 --> 00:04:20,025 Speaker 3: temper they were in my tempercent and I'm looking forward 94 00:04:20,025 --> 00:04:22,465 Speaker 3: to laying blazers or newhere over the top. 95 00:04:22,505 --> 00:04:24,505 Speaker 1: I think that Larry just gives it extra. 96 00:04:24,265 --> 00:04:26,625 Speaker 2: So me to thank goodness it's cooling down and we 97 00:04:26,625 --> 00:04:29,545 Speaker 2: can finally wear our layers. Now you've just said that 98 00:04:29,545 --> 00:04:31,065 Speaker 2: you'd like to challenge yourself and wear a lot of 99 00:04:31,105 --> 00:04:32,745 Speaker 2: your wardrobe a lot of the time, So I am 100 00:04:32,945 --> 00:04:35,745 Speaker 2: so interested to get your take on today's topic. We 101 00:04:35,985 --> 00:04:39,625 Speaker 2: are talking about capsule wardrobes, which is a term that 102 00:04:39,745 --> 00:04:42,465 Speaker 2: is absolutely everywhere. Right now, we're going to talk about 103 00:04:42,465 --> 00:04:45,865 Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and how people can build their own. 104 00:04:46,225 --> 00:04:50,585 Speaker 2: So first before I ask your personal opinion on captural wardrobes, 105 00:04:50,745 --> 00:04:53,585 Speaker 2: what is a captural wardrobe? When do you think capture wardrobe? 106 00:04:53,585 --> 00:04:56,185 Speaker 2: I get asks a lot. People think it's like the 107 00:04:56,225 --> 00:04:59,785 Speaker 2: perfect white T shirt, the trench code, the black pair 108 00:04:59,825 --> 00:05:03,265 Speaker 2: of pants, the dinner item, the ballet flash of the boots. 109 00:05:03,305 --> 00:05:05,105 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I think. That's what you think of. 110 00:05:05,345 --> 00:05:08,865 Speaker 3: And I had worked in magazines in another lifetime, and 111 00:05:08,905 --> 00:05:10,785 Speaker 3: that's what we would say. We would tell people, make 112 00:05:10,785 --> 00:05:11,985 Speaker 3: sure you have the trench coat, make sure you have 113 00:05:12,025 --> 00:05:12,705 Speaker 3: the white t shirt. 114 00:05:12,745 --> 00:05:14,865 Speaker 2: Page was in the mag like twice all the time, 115 00:05:14,905 --> 00:05:17,065 Speaker 2: and it did so well, people loved it. That's why 116 00:05:17,065 --> 00:05:19,145 Speaker 2: I wanted you for this episode because it's with a twist. 117 00:05:19,225 --> 00:05:22,105 Speaker 2: So what's your personal take on a capsual wardrobe or 118 00:05:22,185 --> 00:05:22,585 Speaker 2: for you? 119 00:05:22,825 --> 00:05:25,465 Speaker 3: So my personal take is like a captual wardrobe is 120 00:05:25,465 --> 00:05:29,265 Speaker 3: inherently something that is the core of your style or wardrobe. 121 00:05:29,305 --> 00:05:31,185 Speaker 3: It's not that you reach for all the time. It's 122 00:05:31,225 --> 00:05:34,185 Speaker 3: something that you build around. And while I love the 123 00:05:34,265 --> 00:05:36,785 Speaker 3: idea of the perfect trench coat, of the perfect teach, 124 00:05:36,905 --> 00:05:40,705 Speaker 3: the perfect gene, that doesn't necessarily work for everyone. That 125 00:05:40,865 --> 00:05:42,985 Speaker 3: beige trench coat. They always talk on bage trench coad. 126 00:05:43,425 --> 00:05:45,265 Speaker 3: Some people don't look great in beige. Yeah, I have 127 00:05:45,265 --> 00:05:47,345 Speaker 3: some beige trench coats and I have bought some other 128 00:05:47,505 --> 00:05:49,465 Speaker 3: very expensive trench coats, thinking in my life would be 129 00:05:49,545 --> 00:05:52,505 Speaker 3: complete and being like it's kind of washing me out. 130 00:05:52,705 --> 00:05:52,905 Speaker 1: Yep. 131 00:05:52,985 --> 00:05:54,705 Speaker 2: You think this whole capsual thing will to solve all 132 00:05:54,705 --> 00:05:58,345 Speaker 2: your problems, and sometimes that doesnactly. So we'll get into 133 00:05:58,345 --> 00:06:00,585 Speaker 2: the benefits in a moment. But I guess what you're 134 00:06:00,585 --> 00:06:02,585 Speaker 2: trying to say, and what I've realized through doing this 135 00:06:02,625 --> 00:06:04,905 Speaker 2: podcast is you can have your capsule, but it's sort 136 00:06:04,945 --> 00:06:08,425 Speaker 2: of not a uniform for society. Yeah, it's a capsule 137 00:06:08,505 --> 00:06:11,625 Speaker 2: for you. So if you're hype feminine and lace and floral, 138 00:06:11,945 --> 00:06:14,665 Speaker 2: your capsule look very different to that sporty lux girl 139 00:06:14,665 --> 00:06:18,025 Speaker 2: who wears leggings and really cool active wear. Right, they 140 00:06:18,425 --> 00:06:20,425 Speaker 2: both have capsules, but they just won't have the same 141 00:06:20,505 --> 00:06:24,225 Speaker 2: one exactly. And I think sometimes when people tell you 142 00:06:24,225 --> 00:06:28,265 Speaker 2: you need the perfect xyz, it makes you think that's. 143 00:06:28,065 --> 00:06:30,185 Speaker 3: Going to solve all your problems. That's actually not and 144 00:06:30,225 --> 00:06:33,065 Speaker 3: it's finding the capture wardrobe that works for you. And 145 00:06:33,105 --> 00:06:34,905 Speaker 3: I think one of the ways I helped find my 146 00:06:34,945 --> 00:06:37,065 Speaker 3: captural wardrobe was when I was traveling. I went on 147 00:06:37,105 --> 00:06:40,065 Speaker 3: a ten day holiday my baby that my husband. I 148 00:06:40,105 --> 00:06:42,465 Speaker 3: had limited wardrobes space, and I was like, what other 149 00:06:42,505 --> 00:06:45,145 Speaker 3: things I'm gonna grab all the time? One pair of jeans, 150 00:06:45,305 --> 00:06:49,185 Speaker 3: one blazer, one leather jacket, one T shirt, one net. Yes, 151 00:06:49,305 --> 00:06:50,985 Speaker 3: and how he rotate them to make it work? 152 00:06:51,025 --> 00:06:53,785 Speaker 1: Good little challenge. Yeah it was hard. Yeah, it's hard, 153 00:06:53,785 --> 00:06:54,505 Speaker 1: but it's worth it. 154 00:06:54,585 --> 00:06:57,025 Speaker 2: So when we talk about a basic capital wardrobe and 155 00:06:57,025 --> 00:06:59,385 Speaker 2: you've already touched on this. For me, it's a classic 156 00:06:59,425 --> 00:07:02,705 Speaker 2: trench coat, a crew neck, white tea, a pair of 157 00:07:02,785 --> 00:07:07,465 Speaker 2: classic jeans. That's what works for me. How does someone 158 00:07:07,825 --> 00:07:11,505 Speaker 2: work out Probably what they've already in their wardrobe. That's 159 00:07:11,545 --> 00:07:13,465 Speaker 2: the start of their capsule, and then what's missing? 160 00:07:13,505 --> 00:07:14,025 Speaker 1: Do you think? 161 00:07:14,185 --> 00:07:15,945 Speaker 3: I think if you look at your wardrobe, I like 162 00:07:15,985 --> 00:07:17,985 Speaker 3: it when I can see everything at once. I've listened 163 00:07:18,025 --> 00:07:19,625 Speaker 3: to some of your other podcasts and other people have 164 00:07:19,625 --> 00:07:21,465 Speaker 3: been like, I find it really overwhelming. I love seeing 165 00:07:21,545 --> 00:07:23,825 Speaker 3: everything all at once, and then you look at it, 166 00:07:23,905 --> 00:07:26,105 Speaker 3: go oh, I seem to be buying a lot of 167 00:07:26,185 --> 00:07:26,985 Speaker 3: Shombray shirts. 168 00:07:27,065 --> 00:07:31,265 Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm wearing one right then. 169 00:07:31,145 --> 00:07:34,385 Speaker 3: That's probably one of your key capsual pieces. So I 170 00:07:34,865 --> 00:07:36,945 Speaker 3: controversy might be like, it's okay to have more than 171 00:07:36,985 --> 00:07:39,105 Speaker 3: one type of shombra shirt. You might have one your pockets, 172 00:07:39,145 --> 00:07:41,265 Speaker 3: you might have one that's a darker wash, have a 173 00:07:41,345 --> 00:07:44,705 Speaker 3: lighter wash. But it actually adds so much more to 174 00:07:44,745 --> 00:07:46,985 Speaker 3: your wardrobe, and it's almost like a safety blanket as well. 175 00:07:47,025 --> 00:07:47,905 Speaker 3: It makes you feel good. 176 00:07:47,985 --> 00:07:48,665 Speaker 1: That's so true. 177 00:07:48,705 --> 00:07:51,065 Speaker 2: So one person's trench might be a shirt, might be 178 00:07:51,145 --> 00:07:54,225 Speaker 2: a nit skirt, might be a floral exact MAXI. 179 00:07:55,185 --> 00:07:56,745 Speaker 3: It could be like a kit in here, it could 180 00:07:56,785 --> 00:07:59,185 Speaker 3: be a ballet flat. Some people hate ballet flats, and 181 00:07:59,225 --> 00:08:01,305 Speaker 3: then it's rather a loafer, so you can swap that out. 182 00:08:01,345 --> 00:08:04,185 Speaker 3: And I feel sometimes when you see those little Capture wardrobes, 183 00:08:04,265 --> 00:08:07,065 Speaker 3: you think, oh, I can't wear a white T shirts 184 00:08:07,065 --> 00:08:09,865 Speaker 3: like Crew next do't look great? Yeah it's okay, and 185 00:08:10,145 --> 00:08:12,065 Speaker 3: yes you can make it a black Vanuck. 186 00:08:12,185 --> 00:08:14,065 Speaker 2: I just had a yeah, you're right, black Voenick. I 187 00:08:14,065 --> 00:08:15,505 Speaker 2: just had a light bulb moment because I've been trying 188 00:08:15,505 --> 00:08:17,345 Speaker 2: to make ballet flats work for me for six months 189 00:08:17,705 --> 00:08:19,105 Speaker 2: and no I don't like them. 190 00:08:19,105 --> 00:08:21,025 Speaker 1: All right, It's why am I force trying to make 191 00:08:21,025 --> 00:08:24,945 Speaker 1: fatch happen? Yes? Stop trying to make fetch happen. Okay. 192 00:08:25,385 --> 00:08:28,785 Speaker 2: So say we're going shopping and we're drawn to things. 193 00:08:29,385 --> 00:08:31,465 Speaker 2: How do we work out if it's good for our 194 00:08:31,465 --> 00:08:34,145 Speaker 2: capsule or does it matter? Do you always have to 195 00:08:34,185 --> 00:08:35,225 Speaker 2: have your capsule in mind? 196 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:37,945 Speaker 3: I don't think it necessarily matters. I think one risk 197 00:08:38,065 --> 00:08:39,945 Speaker 3: of thinking that your capsule too much is that you 198 00:08:39,985 --> 00:08:41,905 Speaker 3: can buy too many repeats. 199 00:08:42,825 --> 00:08:43,665 Speaker 1: We've all been there. 200 00:08:44,465 --> 00:08:46,585 Speaker 3: But sometimes I'll look at something like, oh my god, 201 00:08:46,625 --> 00:08:49,465 Speaker 3: I love that jacket, and my husband or my mum 202 00:08:49,465 --> 00:08:51,345 Speaker 3: will be like, you have something like that at home. 203 00:08:51,385 --> 00:08:55,225 Speaker 3: That's actually nicer. Yes, but it's the thrill of something 204 00:08:55,265 --> 00:08:57,505 Speaker 3: new and the thrill of like the hunt of getting it, 205 00:08:57,545 --> 00:08:58,705 Speaker 3: and I guess I'll just separate that. 206 00:08:58,865 --> 00:09:01,065 Speaker 2: Yeah, knowing your taste it's good because you've honed in 207 00:09:01,065 --> 00:09:02,665 Speaker 2: a new taste, but then you do end up with 208 00:09:02,705 --> 00:09:05,265 Speaker 2: sixty five car Kee bomber jackets or whatever it might 209 00:09:05,305 --> 00:09:08,025 Speaker 2: be exactly so you want to know it but also 210 00:09:08,145 --> 00:09:11,025 Speaker 2: still give permission and feel comfort and to step outside. 211 00:09:11,105 --> 00:09:12,185 Speaker 2: You catch and adding. 212 00:09:12,545 --> 00:09:14,385 Speaker 3: It's like that fine line. You want to step outside, 213 00:09:14,385 --> 00:09:16,345 Speaker 3: but not two outside. You wanted to make this what 214 00:09:16,465 --> 00:09:18,865 Speaker 3: you have already, but not be identical. You wanted to 215 00:09:18,865 --> 00:09:21,465 Speaker 3: add the new and not be like, oh, I'm just 216 00:09:21,505 --> 00:09:22,865 Speaker 3: adding extra to the same category. 217 00:09:22,985 --> 00:09:25,665 Speaker 2: So how do we not fall into the cookie cutter trap? 218 00:09:25,705 --> 00:09:27,585 Speaker 2: Do you think you know? You're asking what the three 219 00:09:27,625 --> 00:09:28,665 Speaker 2: words are for my style? 220 00:09:29,105 --> 00:09:31,065 Speaker 3: It's knowing your three words, and if you don't even 221 00:09:31,145 --> 00:09:34,465 Speaker 3: know your three words, it's looking at your pinterress board 222 00:09:34,545 --> 00:09:36,465 Speaker 3: and seeing what you've saved. And it doesn't need to 223 00:09:36,465 --> 00:09:39,865 Speaker 3: be closed. It could be pictures of flowers or interiors 224 00:09:40,025 --> 00:09:42,545 Speaker 3: or dogs or holidays, But it will tell you who 225 00:09:42,545 --> 00:09:45,145 Speaker 3: you are. If you look at your pintress board or 226 00:09:45,185 --> 00:09:49,545 Speaker 3: your Instagram saves and you've got sunsets and Paul side, 227 00:09:49,585 --> 00:09:52,105 Speaker 3: then you think, well, you're poppy, a bit more relaxed, 228 00:09:52,145 --> 00:09:55,945 Speaker 3: bit more bohemian maybe maybe color maybe like sort of linens. Yeah, 229 00:09:55,985 --> 00:09:58,385 Speaker 3: that tells you so much more than just a picture 230 00:09:58,425 --> 00:09:58,905 Speaker 3: of a girl. 231 00:09:58,785 --> 00:10:00,265 Speaker 1: In a dress. I love that. 232 00:10:00,345 --> 00:10:02,705 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get your vibe not from discussion picks, 233 00:10:02,705 --> 00:10:04,065 Speaker 2: but just in general. 234 00:10:03,865 --> 00:10:06,985 Speaker 3: Exactly how do you holiday, how do you live, and 235 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:09,745 Speaker 3: how fashion needs to actually make sense with how you 236 00:10:09,905 --> 00:10:10,585 Speaker 3: live day to day. 237 00:10:10,665 --> 00:10:11,385 Speaker 1: Yes, that's so true. 238 00:10:11,385 --> 00:10:13,225 Speaker 2: And yeah, if you're saving picks of holidays, you're likely 239 00:10:13,225 --> 00:10:14,465 Speaker 2: to want to go to a place like that and 240 00:10:14,505 --> 00:10:16,145 Speaker 2: you've got to wear clothes there. Yeah, and you're probably 241 00:10:16,225 --> 00:10:19,545 Speaker 2: not into doing like statement nitwear. No, I'm not a hiker. 242 00:10:19,585 --> 00:10:21,025 Speaker 2: I have never saved a picture of a hike and 243 00:10:21,065 --> 00:10:22,465 Speaker 2: I don't own any hiking clothes. 244 00:10:22,745 --> 00:10:23,945 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk color. 245 00:10:24,465 --> 00:10:27,665 Speaker 2: You to me, you're pretty classic, but also you do 246 00:10:27,745 --> 00:10:30,905 Speaker 2: like that's a cornflower blue. That's a color to me, 247 00:10:31,065 --> 00:10:34,345 Speaker 2: But it's also like such a classic neutral blue. Do 248 00:10:34,385 --> 00:10:37,705 Speaker 2: you think captural wardrobes need to be neutral or can 249 00:10:37,785 --> 00:10:38,465 Speaker 2: we add color? 250 00:10:38,585 --> 00:10:40,265 Speaker 1: I think you definitely can add color. 251 00:10:40,305 --> 00:10:42,745 Speaker 3: And it's so funny because I would tell my friends, oh, yeah, 252 00:10:42,785 --> 00:10:44,505 Speaker 3: I definitely wear color, and they would probably laugh and 253 00:10:44,505 --> 00:10:46,145 Speaker 3: be like, no, you wear a lot of black. But 254 00:10:46,225 --> 00:10:50,745 Speaker 3: I think it's using color almost as a neutral sometimes, yes, 255 00:10:50,905 --> 00:10:53,345 Speaker 3: rather than have that be like, the way I want 256 00:10:53,385 --> 00:10:54,825 Speaker 3: to wear color is I don't want it to be 257 00:10:54,865 --> 00:10:56,025 Speaker 3: shouty and crazy. 258 00:10:56,065 --> 00:10:57,625 Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sense with everything. 259 00:10:57,625 --> 00:11:01,185 Speaker 2: Alse Yes, because for example, that cornflower blue oversized shirt, 260 00:11:01,185 --> 00:11:03,345 Speaker 2: you could wear that sixty five million ways and it's 261 00:11:03,385 --> 00:11:05,825 Speaker 2: not like, oh, there's aara in that shirt again, because 262 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:06,945 Speaker 2: it's still versatile. 263 00:11:07,105 --> 00:11:07,385 Speaker 1: Yeah. 264 00:11:07,505 --> 00:11:10,265 Speaker 3: One trick I've learned about color is if you wear 265 00:11:10,345 --> 00:11:13,145 Speaker 3: say like this cornflower blue or bright red or bright 266 00:11:13,185 --> 00:11:15,665 Speaker 3: pink T shirt, if you pair it with black, it 267 00:11:15,745 --> 00:11:18,505 Speaker 3: actually makes the color of RECEIPD yeah, sort of soften 268 00:11:18,665 --> 00:11:21,265 Speaker 3: up and look more. I don't want to say conservative, 269 00:11:21,265 --> 00:11:23,305 Speaker 3: but just easier to wear. If you wear it with 270 00:11:23,865 --> 00:11:26,625 Speaker 3: dark chocolate or gray, it kind of just softens up 271 00:11:26,625 --> 00:11:29,025 Speaker 3: the whole look. If you're with white, it's gonna pop. 272 00:11:29,225 --> 00:11:32,505 Speaker 3: If you're gonna wear it with a contrasting color, So 273 00:11:32,585 --> 00:11:35,705 Speaker 3: if you wear a dark blue top with a bright 274 00:11:35,785 --> 00:11:38,105 Speaker 3: yellow skirt, yes, that's gonna make both colours pop. 275 00:11:38,145 --> 00:11:38,985 Speaker 1: That's a big statement. 276 00:11:39,025 --> 00:11:41,385 Speaker 3: So if you kind of look at the theory of 277 00:11:41,465 --> 00:11:43,465 Speaker 3: color and art history, then it makes sense how you 278 00:11:43,505 --> 00:11:44,465 Speaker 3: can make color work for you. 279 00:11:44,625 --> 00:11:44,785 Speaker 1: Yeah. 280 00:11:44,865 --> 00:11:47,305 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily have to be bright and loud, yes, 281 00:11:47,385 --> 00:11:49,665 Speaker 2: and not huge clashing silently. It doesn't always have to 282 00:11:49,665 --> 00:11:52,145 Speaker 2: be that you and I are in the same color spectrum. There, 283 00:11:52,185 --> 00:11:54,625 Speaker 2: I think, so tell me that you're human. Have you 284 00:11:54,705 --> 00:11:57,185 Speaker 2: ever found yourself falling for a trend. 285 00:11:57,225 --> 00:12:00,945 Speaker 3: Or maybe not falling for a trend. But when I 286 00:12:00,985 --> 00:12:03,305 Speaker 3: worked at a certain publication, I had to do like 287 00:12:03,305 --> 00:12:06,825 Speaker 3: a What's Hot and What's not Paige and I stumbled 288 00:12:06,905 --> 00:12:10,665 Speaker 3: upon old issues a couple of months ago, and in 289 00:12:10,705 --> 00:12:16,065 Speaker 3: the What's not Hot, I'd put clots. Oh, I'd put 290 00:12:16,145 --> 00:12:19,865 Speaker 3: genim shirts and I had put backpacks. 291 00:12:20,025 --> 00:12:22,145 Speaker 1: And I just remember thinking, like, those. 292 00:12:21,985 --> 00:12:23,745 Speaker 3: Pages are actually quite hard to do because I just sit 293 00:12:23,785 --> 00:12:25,345 Speaker 3: there and be like, oh, what is something that people 294 00:12:25,385 --> 00:12:27,305 Speaker 3: will definitely not wear today? And we were like, clots, 295 00:12:27,425 --> 00:12:31,425 Speaker 3: No one is wearing clots. Who is wearing those awkward shorts? Yes, 296 00:12:31,505 --> 00:12:36,185 Speaker 3: denim shirts, Yeah, they're really big now. But this was 297 00:12:36,225 --> 00:12:38,265 Speaker 3: fifteen years ago. Yes, and I think that goes to 298 00:12:38,265 --> 00:12:41,185 Speaker 3: show trends do come and go, honestly, and it makes 299 00:12:41,225 --> 00:12:41,785 Speaker 3: it we're cool. 300 00:12:42,065 --> 00:12:44,345 Speaker 2: Yes, And I think that you know, if you can 301 00:12:44,385 --> 00:12:46,145 Speaker 2: afford it, not to spend a lot of money, but 302 00:12:46,185 --> 00:12:47,825 Speaker 2: to buy quality, and if you've got the space to 303 00:12:47,865 --> 00:12:51,545 Speaker 2: hold onto a few key items, they will come back eventually, 304 00:12:51,625 --> 00:12:53,585 Speaker 2: maybe in a different way. But I've got so many 305 00:12:53,625 --> 00:12:55,385 Speaker 2: pieces in my head that I'm like, why did I get. 306 00:12:55,385 --> 00:12:56,425 Speaker 1: Rid of that? Exactly? 307 00:12:56,585 --> 00:13:00,145 Speaker 2: So your capture wardrobe might change, but who knows what's 308 00:13:00,185 --> 00:13:11,225 Speaker 2: around the corner. I want to ask you about the 309 00:13:11,265 --> 00:13:14,225 Speaker 2: weather now, so it's calling down autumn winter. Thank goodness, 310 00:13:14,225 --> 00:13:16,065 Speaker 2: it was so human here in Sydney. I don't even 311 00:13:16,105 --> 00:13:18,905 Speaker 2: want to think about the poor Queenslanders. So let's talk 312 00:13:18,945 --> 00:13:22,185 Speaker 2: about some staple jacket options that we might want to 313 00:13:22,225 --> 00:13:24,705 Speaker 2: add to our capsule. Obviously, the trench. I'm a huge 314 00:13:24,745 --> 00:13:28,225 Speaker 2: trench fan. If a trench isn't for everyone, what are 315 00:13:28,345 --> 00:13:31,465 Speaker 2: the other options? Basically, longer length coats are really it? 316 00:13:31,905 --> 00:13:37,265 Speaker 2: Anything hitting mid thigh a longer, preferably knee length longer. Again, like, 317 00:13:37,665 --> 00:13:39,865 Speaker 2: I don't want to be so didactic about what links 318 00:13:39,905 --> 00:13:42,745 Speaker 2: to wear because it depends on like your hide, what 319 00:13:42,785 --> 00:13:45,105 Speaker 2: else you're wearing. And I think one thing you learn 320 00:13:45,185 --> 00:13:48,865 Speaker 2: with styling is that if you have a long trench coat, 321 00:13:49,065 --> 00:13:51,225 Speaker 2: you can't wear a short when you skirt underneath. Right, 322 00:13:51,305 --> 00:13:52,705 Speaker 2: you have to make the proportions work. 323 00:13:52,745 --> 00:13:53,385 Speaker 1: It changes what. 324 00:13:53,345 --> 00:13:55,745 Speaker 2: Sort of what else is in your wardrobe. So you're 325 00:13:55,745 --> 00:13:58,585 Speaker 2: gonna have to make that call. So I I do 326 00:13:58,625 --> 00:14:00,705 Speaker 2: love a long coat. I love the drama of it. 327 00:14:00,865 --> 00:14:03,105 Speaker 3: I love if you don't want a trench coat, I 328 00:14:03,145 --> 00:14:04,505 Speaker 3: think you can wear a lot of like they call 329 00:14:04,545 --> 00:14:07,785 Speaker 3: them car coats, where it's a bit more streamlined, a 330 00:14:07,785 --> 00:14:10,705 Speaker 3: bit easier, bit more. Everyone say it doesn't have all 331 00:14:10,705 --> 00:14:12,865 Speaker 3: the bits and all the sort of detail. Yes, there 332 00:14:12,945 --> 00:14:15,785 Speaker 3: is quite more simple exactly. There's quite a cool boogie brand, 333 00:14:15,825 --> 00:14:18,825 Speaker 3: God Castles that does really great coats which I've been 334 00:14:18,865 --> 00:14:22,865 Speaker 3: eyeing off on Vestia and the real real assl Okay 335 00:14:22,945 --> 00:14:25,705 Speaker 3: And then I'm a lot of money. They stop them 336 00:14:25,705 --> 00:14:27,705 Speaker 3: at Chinatown Country Club, which I go and like, oh 337 00:14:27,745 --> 00:14:31,985 Speaker 3: well there sometimes and then I also love friends with Frank. Yes, 338 00:14:32,065 --> 00:14:34,745 Speaker 3: they've got some beautiful coats in the moment, and if 339 00:14:34,785 --> 00:14:36,545 Speaker 3: not a trench, but they do these sort of beautiful 340 00:14:36,545 --> 00:14:39,065 Speaker 3: wool coats that almost have like a dressing gown. 341 00:14:39,385 --> 00:14:41,865 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like a coatigan, but not in a chic way. 342 00:14:41,905 --> 00:14:43,985 Speaker 3: But I feel like it's quite comfortable and sort of 343 00:14:43,985 --> 00:14:46,425 Speaker 3: a bit more undone and relaxed. If you're not sure 344 00:14:46,545 --> 00:14:48,505 Speaker 3: that you're like into a trend, it's a bit like 345 00:14:48,625 --> 00:14:49,665 Speaker 3: sounds I feel a bit worky. 346 00:14:49,785 --> 00:14:51,665 Speaker 2: Yes, it does have been inspector gadget. And if it's 347 00:14:51,665 --> 00:14:53,945 Speaker 2: gonna make it into your capsule, it's got to be comfortable. 348 00:14:53,945 --> 00:14:55,865 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how good it looks. If you're uncomfortable, 349 00:14:55,905 --> 00:14:56,465 Speaker 2: you won't reach me. 350 00:14:56,585 --> 00:14:58,785 Speaker 3: You see something, yeah, exactly, something you're happy to wear 351 00:14:58,825 --> 00:14:59,305 Speaker 3: all the time. 352 00:14:59,425 --> 00:15:05,065 Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, my other beloved blazers, they're always classic, right, Okay. 353 00:15:05,465 --> 00:15:06,825 Speaker 1: I like the oversize. 354 00:15:07,105 --> 00:15:10,185 Speaker 3: I don't like when it's so oversized is that it 355 00:15:10,225 --> 00:15:12,985 Speaker 3: looks like you're wearing someone else's clothes and I know, 356 00:15:13,025 --> 00:15:14,265 Speaker 3: you know you've got from your. 357 00:15:14,345 --> 00:15:15,825 Speaker 1: Boys, from your partner. 358 00:15:15,985 --> 00:15:18,905 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it when it's so kind of ridiculous, 359 00:15:18,945 --> 00:15:21,345 Speaker 3: and I kind of feel like sometimes we're in this 360 00:15:21,425 --> 00:15:23,785 Speaker 3: sort of fashion trend stage right, look your the street 361 00:15:23,825 --> 00:15:28,185 Speaker 3: and I'm like, you look like you're trying to get it. 362 00:15:28,425 --> 00:15:29,945 Speaker 2: I've got a Camilla and Mark one I love. But 363 00:15:29,985 --> 00:15:31,545 Speaker 2: then I tried on a newer one and I think 364 00:15:31,545 --> 00:15:33,345 Speaker 2: it must be a different cut or one size up, 365 00:15:33,345 --> 00:15:35,185 Speaker 2: and I literally look like a little girl walking around 366 00:15:35,225 --> 00:15:36,025 Speaker 2: in her dam's jacket. 367 00:15:36,025 --> 00:15:38,225 Speaker 1: And it was just this little tweak, but little tweak. 368 00:15:38,425 --> 00:15:41,585 Speaker 3: And if you look at how oversized shirts, oversize jackets 369 00:15:41,585 --> 00:15:44,145 Speaker 3: are cut, it's where the shoulders sit, It's where the 370 00:15:44,225 --> 00:15:46,305 Speaker 3: sleeves are cut. Some as they got really short sleeves, 371 00:15:46,345 --> 00:15:49,065 Speaker 3: but the shoulders drop more. Yeah, that makes it look 372 00:15:49,105 --> 00:15:52,305 Speaker 3: a bit better than when it's just oversized shoulders, long, 373 00:15:52,345 --> 00:15:52,825 Speaker 3: long sleeves. 374 00:15:52,825 --> 00:15:54,465 Speaker 2: Okay, so we look at the sleeves. Okay, that's our 375 00:15:54,505 --> 00:15:59,185 Speaker 2: tops shoes. Everyone's capsule shoe wardrobe will be different. I'm 376 00:15:59,225 --> 00:16:02,025 Speaker 2: laughing at me because I try and wear sandals for 377 00:16:02,105 --> 00:16:04,225 Speaker 2: ten months of the year and only really close my 378 00:16:04,305 --> 00:16:05,825 Speaker 2: feet when I get cold because. 379 00:16:05,705 --> 00:16:07,625 Speaker 3: Vandals and socks, by the way, really big. 380 00:16:07,665 --> 00:16:09,985 Speaker 2: Oh I can't do that. I'm forty two. I'll send 381 00:16:10,025 --> 00:16:12,625 Speaker 2: you some links, okay, can you? I also don't have ankles. 382 00:16:12,705 --> 00:16:15,225 Speaker 2: Whoever made me just went leg foot? But I will 383 00:16:15,225 --> 00:16:18,825 Speaker 2: try it because I'm such a sandal girl. Besides sandals 384 00:16:18,865 --> 00:16:21,825 Speaker 2: between our great first ring summer. What are some capsule 385 00:16:21,905 --> 00:16:25,705 Speaker 2: shoes that we can add. Pointy shoes are everywhere. I 386 00:16:25,745 --> 00:16:27,985 Speaker 2: love them, but as a size forty. Again, I've said 387 00:16:28,025 --> 00:16:29,665 Speaker 2: many times I feel like I'm wearing a canoe. 388 00:16:29,705 --> 00:16:32,625 Speaker 3: It just depends on the proportion of how pointy they 389 00:16:32,625 --> 00:16:35,145 Speaker 3: are and also where the shoe ends. 390 00:16:35,305 --> 00:16:38,265 Speaker 2: Okay, the cleavage part, yes, I have a toe. Yes, 391 00:16:38,345 --> 00:16:40,385 Speaker 2: you need a bit of cleavage. 392 00:16:40,385 --> 00:16:42,825 Speaker 1: You can't have it too higher. You need to cleav 393 00:16:42,905 --> 00:16:45,625 Speaker 1: it looks like a bouche like you said. Okay, you 394 00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:46,185 Speaker 1: just need to. 395 00:16:46,345 --> 00:16:48,785 Speaker 3: It's just little twigs like that, and that can make 396 00:16:48,905 --> 00:16:51,145 Speaker 3: something amazing and make something look a bit Dutch. 397 00:16:51,185 --> 00:16:53,865 Speaker 2: Okay, this is good to know. Okay, what about something 398 00:16:53,865 --> 00:16:56,625 Speaker 2: for a capture wardrobe in a sneaker and or a boot. 399 00:16:56,665 --> 00:16:58,745 Speaker 2: What's a classic sort of sneaker or a boot that we 400 00:16:58,785 --> 00:16:59,825 Speaker 2: could have in the wardrobe. 401 00:16:59,945 --> 00:17:04,145 Speaker 3: I still think of Chelsea esque black ankle boot is 402 00:17:04,345 --> 00:17:07,505 Speaker 3: friendly classic, especially now with so many people wearing wide 403 00:17:07,585 --> 00:17:11,265 Speaker 3: leg pants, straight legnts. You can wear them underneath, you 404 00:17:11,265 --> 00:17:13,265 Speaker 3: can wear them with tights and mini skirts of a 405 00:17:13,305 --> 00:17:17,025 Speaker 3: long coat. Yes, the near high boot is coming back in. 406 00:17:17,065 --> 00:17:19,665 Speaker 1: Flat or heel. I'm with a baby. Yeah, me to 407 00:17:19,945 --> 00:17:24,025 Speaker 1: like flat, hoping say flat, I do, but both. 408 00:17:24,145 --> 00:17:26,585 Speaker 3: I do feel like over all fashion is sort of 409 00:17:26,625 --> 00:17:29,705 Speaker 3: taking a bit more practical approach with shoes. Near high 410 00:17:29,705 --> 00:17:32,185 Speaker 3: boots are coming back in. I personally prefer an over 411 00:17:32,225 --> 00:17:34,505 Speaker 3: the knee boot. I feel like it's more flattering for me. 412 00:17:35,025 --> 00:17:37,705 Speaker 3: I feel like it's really important where the boot hits 413 00:17:37,745 --> 00:17:40,145 Speaker 3: on your leg, and it can cut you off from 414 00:17:40,225 --> 00:17:42,425 Speaker 3: Actually it's like I have big calves, so when I 415 00:17:42,505 --> 00:17:45,785 Speaker 3: wear something below the knee, it just looks not right 416 00:17:45,865 --> 00:17:47,945 Speaker 3: and you don't feel comfortable, and I need the over 417 00:17:47,945 --> 00:17:50,785 Speaker 3: the knee to elongate. Other people look amazingly at it. 418 00:17:51,225 --> 00:17:53,185 Speaker 2: Not everyone can afford to throw out everything and invest 419 00:17:53,265 --> 00:17:55,825 Speaker 2: in a whole new capsual wardrobe. What if we've got 420 00:17:55,865 --> 00:17:59,545 Speaker 2: some pieces that, you know, society say aren't necessarily quote 421 00:17:59,625 --> 00:18:02,825 Speaker 2: unquote in right now, Like let's say skinny jean. I 422 00:18:02,865 --> 00:18:05,185 Speaker 2: am so smart now that I finally realize I've kept 423 00:18:05,185 --> 00:18:07,385 Speaker 2: a few pairs because I know they'll be back. But 424 00:18:07,505 --> 00:18:09,025 Speaker 2: what if we've got our skinny jeans and we love 425 00:18:09,065 --> 00:18:12,265 Speaker 2: our skinn jean, can we add them into rotation in 426 00:18:12,345 --> 00:18:14,705 Speaker 2: our capsule wardrobe in a way that feels a bit 427 00:18:14,785 --> 00:18:16,025 Speaker 2: more Twenty twenty four. 428 00:18:16,105 --> 00:18:16,865 Speaker 1: Yes, definitely. 429 00:18:16,945 --> 00:18:19,225 Speaker 3: They say always that you could make anything work with 430 00:18:19,305 --> 00:18:21,265 Speaker 3: the right cutter, starting with the right kind of layering, 431 00:18:21,545 --> 00:18:23,945 Speaker 3: with skinny jeans and with anything particular. I like looking 432 00:18:23,985 --> 00:18:26,985 Speaker 3: at how you balance it out. So skinny, it's quite small, 433 00:18:27,025 --> 00:18:29,585 Speaker 3: it's obviously tight fitted. So I would like to wear 434 00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:32,825 Speaker 3: it with something really oversized and boxy and big, like 435 00:18:32,865 --> 00:18:37,505 Speaker 3: a big chunky oversized sweater, maybe a big like coat 436 00:18:38,065 --> 00:18:41,545 Speaker 3: and either like chunky loafers, a little ballet flats like 437 00:18:41,585 --> 00:18:44,345 Speaker 3: I think if you google put on Pinterest like Olson's 438 00:18:44,425 --> 00:18:45,465 Speaker 3: Olsen skinny jeans. 439 00:18:45,265 --> 00:18:46,265 Speaker 1: They're always wearing leggings. 440 00:18:46,425 --> 00:18:50,345 Speaker 3: Yeah, wear leggings with something chunky, you know, MESSI hair sunglasses. 441 00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:53,105 Speaker 1: Yes, and they look so timeless. It's so true. 442 00:18:53,145 --> 00:18:54,945 Speaker 2: And you know what, if that's in your capsule, great, 443 00:18:55,145 --> 00:18:57,945 Speaker 2: There's no point buying five fares of wide leg jeans 444 00:18:57,945 --> 00:18:59,105 Speaker 2: if you don't enjoy wearing them. 445 00:18:58,985 --> 00:19:00,985 Speaker 3: Exactly and if you don't reach for them, and it's 446 00:19:00,985 --> 00:19:02,345 Speaker 3: still waste money on space. 447 00:19:02,065 --> 00:19:03,705 Speaker 1: In your wardrobe. Absolutely right. I love that. 448 00:19:03,745 --> 00:19:05,665 Speaker 2: Okay, got to be good talk called day one more question. 449 00:19:05,705 --> 00:19:08,665 Speaker 2: Then we're gonna get onto bougie and budget. Like I said, 450 00:19:08,665 --> 00:19:11,305 Speaker 2: not everyone can afford or wants to spend all their 451 00:19:11,305 --> 00:19:14,465 Speaker 2: money on clothes. So I think that's why versatility and 452 00:19:14,585 --> 00:19:19,105 Speaker 2: transseasonal dressing is so helpful. Particularly look here in Sydney 453 00:19:19,505 --> 00:19:21,825 Speaker 2: the way they can do anything. Melbourne gets a bit colder, 454 00:19:22,105 --> 00:19:24,625 Speaker 2: Queensland and Perth you get a bit warmer. But Australia 455 00:19:24,705 --> 00:19:28,225 Speaker 2: for the most part doesn't get freezing, freezing winters, great 456 00:19:28,265 --> 00:19:31,265 Speaker 2: in between, very in between. It's not like Europe. So 457 00:19:31,345 --> 00:19:34,905 Speaker 2: what are some transseasonal items that might be in someone's 458 00:19:34,945 --> 00:19:37,865 Speaker 2: capsule that can be adjusted for the season. 459 00:19:37,905 --> 00:19:41,585 Speaker 3: Do you think a lot of capsual articles will say 460 00:19:41,625 --> 00:19:43,265 Speaker 3: this is a captual piece, but I think for so 461 00:19:43,305 --> 00:19:46,065 Speaker 3: many people it's something they do rely on, Like a 462 00:19:46,105 --> 00:19:50,865 Speaker 3: subbery flow a dress. Yes, little summery mini dress. You think, yep, 463 00:19:50,945 --> 00:19:54,025 Speaker 3: that's like a cuge summer look. But how can you 464 00:19:54,065 --> 00:19:56,865 Speaker 3: make that work for other seasons other times of the year. 465 00:19:56,945 --> 00:20:00,265 Speaker 3: But I think what I love seeing is when you 466 00:20:00,305 --> 00:20:04,545 Speaker 3: wear like a cute summer dress, maybe with chunky gray 467 00:20:04,625 --> 00:20:08,625 Speaker 3: ribbed net tights, yes, boots and a chunky nedge or 468 00:20:08,625 --> 00:20:10,625 Speaker 3: a great coat or it were on top. But I 469 00:20:10,665 --> 00:20:14,345 Speaker 3: think there's that juxtaposition between the light weight between the color. 470 00:20:14,345 --> 00:20:15,625 Speaker 3: Obviously it's not going to work for all. 471 00:20:15,625 --> 00:20:16,745 Speaker 1: Dressers, okay, cool? 472 00:20:16,785 --> 00:20:19,385 Speaker 3: I think if you look at how other people dress, 473 00:20:19,505 --> 00:20:21,665 Speaker 3: we don't need to be always fixated by that item 474 00:20:21,665 --> 00:20:23,705 Speaker 3: like I need to buy that jump and bad item 475 00:20:23,825 --> 00:20:25,825 Speaker 3: is full winter and that itactly for summer. 476 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:27,345 Speaker 1: It's it's how you put. 477 00:20:27,305 --> 00:20:30,425 Speaker 3: Altogether stead the fun and it makes it like it 478 00:20:30,425 --> 00:20:31,465 Speaker 3: shows your personal I just. 479 00:20:31,465 --> 00:20:33,345 Speaker 2: Had the five dresses popped to mine in my wardrobe 480 00:20:33,345 --> 00:20:35,385 Speaker 2: that I thought I wouldn't see for ten months. But 481 00:20:35,465 --> 00:20:37,185 Speaker 2: now I'm going to challenge myself and get back to 482 00:20:37,305 --> 00:20:37,825 Speaker 2: the bottom. 483 00:20:38,625 --> 00:20:40,585 Speaker 1: I love this. Can you comply in my wardrobe? 484 00:20:40,625 --> 00:20:42,705 Speaker 3: I loved you that I could find that so much fun. 485 00:20:54,825 --> 00:21:03,305 Speaker 2: It's very expensive, bougie and budget arguably the best part 486 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:05,705 Speaker 2: of the episode, although that has been so insightful. So 487 00:21:06,825 --> 00:21:10,025 Speaker 2: I have picked two items there's different times, but that 488 00:21:10,105 --> 00:21:13,065 Speaker 2: I think will be part of my twenty twenty four 489 00:21:13,185 --> 00:21:16,345 Speaker 2: winter capsule that I don't necessarily have. MEA and I 490 00:21:16,425 --> 00:21:18,705 Speaker 2: found this picture of this amazing woman on Pinterest and 491 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:20,345 Speaker 2: this was the height of summer, so we couldn't do 492 00:21:20,385 --> 00:21:23,505 Speaker 2: it yet, but she was wearing gray tracksuit pants but 493 00:21:23,625 --> 00:21:27,225 Speaker 2: then with a cool chunky sandal slide a tea and 494 00:21:27,265 --> 00:21:30,025 Speaker 2: knit and then an oversize but dressy, like tailored blazer, 495 00:21:30,065 --> 00:21:32,945 Speaker 2: not linen, and I was like, wow, she's wearing tracksuit 496 00:21:33,025 --> 00:21:35,745 Speaker 2: pants with like I think the sandals they were obviously designer, 497 00:21:35,785 --> 00:21:37,385 Speaker 2: but they're a bit sparkly, a bit statementy. 498 00:21:37,385 --> 00:21:38,185 Speaker 1: And then the blazer. 499 00:21:38,465 --> 00:21:41,065 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm wearing tracksuit pants this winter, and 500 00:21:41,145 --> 00:21:42,905 Speaker 2: I've got many pairs, but they're from Kmart and they've 501 00:21:42,905 --> 00:21:44,825 Speaker 2: got balls all over them. They're disgusting and they're covered 502 00:21:44,825 --> 00:21:49,745 Speaker 2: in soup. So on my bougie winter capsule wish list 503 00:21:50,225 --> 00:21:53,905 Speaker 2: is the Basic wide leg double jersey pant. They're two 504 00:21:54,025 --> 00:21:56,265 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety five dollars for a track sitpant. Let's 505 00:21:56,265 --> 00:21:59,105 Speaker 2: face it, that is a lot of money. However, I've 506 00:21:59,145 --> 00:22:00,785 Speaker 2: got a similar pair. They're a bit more of a 507 00:22:00,785 --> 00:22:02,785 Speaker 2: skinny leg that I bought at the Basic sample sale 508 00:22:02,825 --> 00:22:06,065 Speaker 2: maybe four years ago, and they wash and wear like 509 00:22:06,105 --> 00:22:10,065 Speaker 2: they're brand new. Whatever their jersey is does not ball. 510 00:22:10,425 --> 00:22:12,865 Speaker 2: They look brand new, and she on the website's wearing 511 00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:15,545 Speaker 2: them with like a white pointed boot and I was like, yeah, okay, 512 00:22:15,585 --> 00:22:18,225 Speaker 2: I'm going to dress up a traxeed pant with a blazer. 513 00:22:18,425 --> 00:22:20,985 Speaker 2: So that's my bougie what's your bougie. 514 00:22:21,065 --> 00:22:25,785 Speaker 3: I'm controversially I don't buy a lot of designer jeans. 515 00:22:24,865 --> 00:22:27,425 Speaker 1: Good because I like, like a lot of the Chainsaw 516 00:22:27,505 --> 00:22:29,105 Speaker 1: jeans are so good. I'm with you. 517 00:22:29,225 --> 00:22:31,225 Speaker 3: But there was a certain cut that I just could 518 00:22:31,305 --> 00:22:34,105 Speaker 3: not find and I saw this brand do it, and 519 00:22:34,145 --> 00:22:36,025 Speaker 3: I like pre ordered it and I pay for it, 520 00:22:36,225 --> 00:22:37,345 Speaker 3: which I never I never. 521 00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:38,025 Speaker 1: Ever ever do that. 522 00:22:38,705 --> 00:22:42,505 Speaker 3: There Maggie Mallen's Freddy Jean, and also then my son's 523 00:22:42,505 --> 00:22:44,105 Speaker 3: called Freddy's. I was like, oh my gosh, it's meant 524 00:22:44,265 --> 00:22:47,745 Speaker 3: to be. Just need more reasons to buy stuff. They 525 00:22:47,825 --> 00:22:50,265 Speaker 3: were about three hundred dollars and they're just like a 526 00:22:50,345 --> 00:22:54,385 Speaker 3: really great wide le geane for people who feel not 527 00:22:54,425 --> 00:22:56,545 Speaker 3: sure about white leg jeans and as they can be 528 00:22:56,585 --> 00:22:58,265 Speaker 3: a bit overwhelmed. But they're a bit sort of slim 529 00:22:58,345 --> 00:23:02,345 Speaker 3: line at the top some near thighs without being awkwardly tight, 530 00:23:02,425 --> 00:23:04,265 Speaker 3: and they sort of go straight and slightly white. 531 00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:06,185 Speaker 1: It be more of a classic. 532 00:23:07,825 --> 00:23:09,305 Speaker 3: Exactly, and I feel like you can get a lot 533 00:23:09,345 --> 00:23:12,065 Speaker 3: of long gevity on it. And I wore it. I 534 00:23:12,105 --> 00:23:15,105 Speaker 3: traveled with it in Japan. It made my cut for 535 00:23:15,185 --> 00:23:17,985 Speaker 3: my travel capsule wardrobe. I wore it all the time. 536 00:23:18,065 --> 00:23:20,345 Speaker 3: People were asking me where it was from, and so 537 00:23:20,385 --> 00:23:21,825 Speaker 3: I've got a lot of wear out of it in 538 00:23:21,865 --> 00:23:22,985 Speaker 3: the past almost year. 539 00:23:23,185 --> 00:23:26,025 Speaker 1: Okay, that is a goodbye. So that's my bougie. 540 00:23:26,265 --> 00:23:30,865 Speaker 3: Okay, my budget is I call them the like Traveling 541 00:23:30,905 --> 00:23:35,305 Speaker 3: Sisterhood Pan. Okay, Yes, they are from Zara. I've mentioned 542 00:23:35,385 --> 00:23:35,905 Speaker 3: Zara a lot. 543 00:23:36,105 --> 00:23:38,825 Speaker 1: They are so good you are in Zara. 544 00:23:38,985 --> 00:23:42,745 Speaker 3: I wish they are called the Marine highwaisted jean. They're 545 00:23:42,785 --> 00:23:44,985 Speaker 3: seventy nine ninety five. They've been making them for the 546 00:23:44,985 --> 00:23:47,025 Speaker 3: past like three four five years. How do I don't 547 00:23:47,025 --> 00:23:49,665 Speaker 3: know about My mum got them for me, and she 548 00:23:50,225 --> 00:23:52,745 Speaker 3: is I'm quite tall. I'm one hundred and tenty five centimeters. 549 00:23:52,785 --> 00:23:55,105 Speaker 3: My mom's like one sixty five one six a bit shorter. 550 00:23:55,185 --> 00:23:58,585 Speaker 3: So when she wears them, they are quite long, a 551 00:23:58,585 --> 00:24:00,705 Speaker 3: bit wide leg a bit cool and slouchy. When I 552 00:24:00,745 --> 00:24:04,385 Speaker 3: wear them, they're like kind of cropped like length. 553 00:24:04,145 --> 00:24:08,105 Speaker 1: And wide straight wide between straight legs slightly in between. 554 00:24:08,825 --> 00:24:10,865 Speaker 3: And even with that crupt length on me, I can 555 00:24:10,945 --> 00:24:13,985 Speaker 3: wear them with sneakers with my ballet flash and they 556 00:24:14,025 --> 00:24:16,745 Speaker 3: go with everything. And I recommended them to people who 557 00:24:16,785 --> 00:24:19,785 Speaker 3: are tiny. I recommend someone who's five foot seal I 558 00:24:19,785 --> 00:24:21,465 Speaker 3: recommend some on the six foot and they put them 559 00:24:21,505 --> 00:24:21,705 Speaker 3: on and. 560 00:24:21,705 --> 00:24:23,825 Speaker 1: They're just like, they are so flattering. Do I not 561 00:24:23,865 --> 00:24:25,625 Speaker 1: know about? They do them in so many colors. I 562 00:24:25,665 --> 00:24:27,985 Speaker 1: was going to say, what are the wash clie in. 563 00:24:28,025 --> 00:24:33,905 Speaker 3: Fake leather, white, blue, black? Oh, a new color comes 564 00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:35,425 Speaker 3: out and I buy them. And they also got a 565 00:24:35,425 --> 00:24:36,025 Speaker 3: bit of stretch. 566 00:24:36,185 --> 00:24:39,665 Speaker 2: Nice so good for travel, good for track, squatting down, 567 00:24:39,665 --> 00:24:40,585 Speaker 2: picking up toys. 568 00:24:40,665 --> 00:24:42,185 Speaker 3: I have a lot of photos of me squatting down 569 00:24:42,265 --> 00:24:44,465 Speaker 3: picking up stuff on the ground in them cheat and 570 00:24:44,545 --> 00:24:47,025 Speaker 3: you just look really pulled together and also like, you know, 571 00:24:47,185 --> 00:24:48,225 Speaker 3: it just fits so. 572 00:24:48,145 --> 00:24:49,425 Speaker 1: Well you don't want to rip them off at the 573 00:24:49,505 --> 00:24:51,185 Speaker 1: end of the day. Likely, and I guess I went 574 00:24:51,345 --> 00:24:51,825 Speaker 1: all weekend. 575 00:24:51,945 --> 00:24:56,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's making anti capsule again, comfort factor need Okay, Well, 576 00:24:56,505 --> 00:24:59,345 Speaker 2: I have a problem with blazers and trench coats, so 577 00:24:59,385 --> 00:25:03,305 Speaker 2: I am banned from buying anymore. So in rotation in 578 00:25:03,345 --> 00:25:06,025 Speaker 2: this winter, I'm going to challenge myself. Part of my 579 00:25:06,065 --> 00:25:08,945 Speaker 2: capsule is a bomber jacket. H of them have a 580 00:25:08,985 --> 00:25:12,465 Speaker 2: really fantastic stick one very similar to the Tzara Gray 581 00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:14,225 Speaker 2: Felt it Went virals. 582 00:25:13,865 --> 00:25:16,225 Speaker 1: Of their winter. I remember that one. 583 00:25:16,345 --> 00:25:18,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy nine ninety five it's got that sort of 584 00:25:19,305 --> 00:25:20,105 Speaker 2: fabricy collar. 585 00:25:20,105 --> 00:25:21,745 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called, the ribbed. 586 00:25:21,745 --> 00:25:23,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, ribbed, And I just like that it's like a 587 00:25:23,705 --> 00:25:26,425 Speaker 2: medium gray and it can look a bit sort of preppy, 588 00:25:26,705 --> 00:25:28,785 Speaker 2: but I feel like she's wearing it like with a 589 00:25:28,785 --> 00:25:32,225 Speaker 2: wide leg pant. I just feel like it might be 590 00:25:32,345 --> 00:25:35,225 Speaker 2: the comfortable, medium weight coat that. 591 00:25:35,265 --> 00:25:36,585 Speaker 1: I need in Sydney winter. 592 00:25:37,385 --> 00:25:40,225 Speaker 2: That isn't my blazers and my trenches, which I will 593 00:25:40,265 --> 00:25:43,505 Speaker 2: absolutely wear all the time. But I'm trying to get 594 00:25:43,545 --> 00:25:45,385 Speaker 2: out of my comfort zone in that I've nailed my 595 00:25:45,465 --> 00:25:48,465 Speaker 2: capsule to the point where I've accidentally made a uniform, 596 00:25:48,785 --> 00:25:50,065 Speaker 2: and I want to be a bit more like you 597 00:25:50,105 --> 00:25:52,705 Speaker 2: would be a bit more adventurous adding those pieces that 598 00:25:52,745 --> 00:25:54,905 Speaker 2: will still be a classic and I'll still keep them. 599 00:25:54,905 --> 00:25:57,625 Speaker 2: I feel like these two items will keep forever. So 600 00:25:57,905 --> 00:26:00,745 Speaker 2: a gray felt bomber jacket. 601 00:26:00,385 --> 00:26:02,545 Speaker 1: Approved, Yes, approved, Yes. 602 00:26:02,305 --> 00:26:04,585 Speaker 2: Oh Zara, you are an absolute wealth of knowledge. I 603 00:26:04,585 --> 00:26:05,625 Speaker 2: loved having you on the show. 604 00:26:05,745 --> 00:26:06,385 Speaker 1: Your news. 605 00:26:06,385 --> 00:26:08,585 Speaker 2: That is the favorite thing in my inbox besides females 606 00:26:08,585 --> 00:26:11,025 Speaker 2: from my bossyclus. Thank you for coming on and I 607 00:26:11,025 --> 00:26:11,985 Speaker 2: can't wait to have you that that. 608 00:26:12,025 --> 00:26:12,625 Speaker 1: Was so much fun. 609 00:26:13,465 --> 00:26:16,225 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening for Nothing to Wear, don't forget 610 00:26:16,225 --> 00:26:18,505 Speaker 2: to sign up to our Nothing to Wear newsletter. 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