1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:11,474 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mom with mea podcast. 2 00:00:15,914 --> 00:00:18,794 Speaker 2: Whoever said orange is a new pink but seriously. 3 00:00:18,314 --> 00:00:22,754 Speaker 1: Deserved laurels for spraying groundbreaking. Oh my god, you have 4 00:00:22,834 --> 00:00:24,634 Speaker 1: to do it. You live for fashion. 5 00:00:25,594 --> 00:00:28,354 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 6 00:00:28,474 --> 00:00:32,114 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm listening to. 7 00:00:32,074 --> 00:00:34,794 Speaker 3: Picket and I'm Tamara Holland, and each week we chat 8 00:00:34,793 --> 00:00:37,273 Speaker 3: about all things style to help you decide what is 9 00:00:37,354 --> 00:00:39,793 Speaker 3: and isn't worth investing in in your wardrobe and how 10 00:00:39,793 --> 00:00:41,874 Speaker 3: to get more out of the clothes you already own. 11 00:00:42,553 --> 00:00:46,234 Speaker 1: So it's nice to see. We haven't been on much 12 00:00:46,314 --> 00:00:48,074 Speaker 1: for a while. I know, I know we're going to 13 00:00:48,114 --> 00:00:48,793 Speaker 1: be doing it more. 14 00:00:49,034 --> 00:00:50,833 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have so much to. 15 00:00:50,833 --> 00:00:53,034 Speaker 1: Unpack with you. This is like a really packed. 16 00:00:52,754 --> 00:00:56,154 Speaker 3: Episode We've got that we've got an agenda. I wanted 17 00:00:56,194 --> 00:00:57,673 Speaker 3: to talk to you about a trend that I've been 18 00:00:57,714 --> 00:00:59,353 Speaker 3: seeing because we're just kind of going to bring up 19 00:00:59,354 --> 00:01:01,194 Speaker 3: a few things we've been seeing on our feeds and 20 00:01:01,234 --> 00:01:04,634 Speaker 3: like on the algorithm that we're being served for me, Like, 21 00:01:04,914 --> 00:01:08,434 Speaker 3: I know you and Lee recently had a chat about 22 00:01:08,434 --> 00:01:11,234 Speaker 3: how the micro trend is dying, and I'm so into 23 00:01:11,274 --> 00:01:13,954 Speaker 3: that like, absolutely here for trends that have more or 24 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:17,234 Speaker 3: you know, clothing movements to have more longevity. But I 25 00:01:17,314 --> 00:01:20,394 Speaker 3: found I was served one. But I really need to 26 00:01:20,394 --> 00:01:21,954 Speaker 3: get your thoughts on what is it? 27 00:01:22,034 --> 00:01:24,314 Speaker 1: God, it's a new aesthetic. It's called Tuscan. 28 00:01:24,434 --> 00:01:24,634 Speaker 3: Mum? 29 00:01:25,114 --> 00:01:26,954 Speaker 1: Have you seen this? Isn't this funny? 30 00:01:26,994 --> 00:01:30,314 Speaker 2: Like I am, I live on TikTok religiously, probably like 31 00:01:30,354 --> 00:01:32,394 Speaker 2: four hours a day, and I have not come across 32 00:01:32,394 --> 00:01:35,274 Speaker 2: this one. Really how sort of micro and how they 33 00:01:35,274 --> 00:01:37,074 Speaker 2: live in their own orbit trends can be. 34 00:01:37,234 --> 00:01:40,794 Speaker 3: Isn't that funny? Because I'm not on TikTok famously won't. 35 00:01:40,514 --> 00:01:42,154 Speaker 1: Go so you saw it on Instagram? 36 00:01:42,194 --> 00:01:44,594 Speaker 3: I saw it on Instagram, but apparently it's a TikTok trend, 37 00:01:44,634 --> 00:01:45,874 Speaker 3: so I thought you'd be all over. 38 00:01:46,314 --> 00:01:49,474 Speaker 1: Tell me what is a Tuscan? Mom? What is a Tuscan? Mum? Indeed? 39 00:01:49,514 --> 00:01:53,914 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, per Birdie, which is a digital magazine, she 40 00:01:54,354 --> 00:01:57,434 Speaker 3: is a suburban style icon with a panshant for low 41 00:01:57,514 --> 00:02:00,674 Speaker 3: rise jeans, a little boho top, and a capacious designer 42 00:02:00,794 --> 00:02:04,114 Speaker 3: had So a key reference for this trend is I 43 00:02:04,154 --> 00:02:05,074 Speaker 3: don't know if you ever. 44 00:02:04,914 --> 00:02:06,314 Speaker 1: Watched Desperate Housewives? 45 00:02:06,354 --> 00:02:09,554 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you remember remember Eva Longoria's character, Yeah, be. 46 00:02:09,633 --> 00:02:13,353 Speaker 1: Solace, Yes, so that's who we're picturing. He's like little Latina. Yeah, 47 00:02:13,434 --> 00:02:17,434 Speaker 1: hot mom form heels as well with the low rise gyms, yes, 48 00:02:17,514 --> 00:02:20,394 Speaker 1: like a stacked wedge heel. Yes. Okay, so this is 49 00:02:20,434 --> 00:02:21,074 Speaker 1: the aesthetic. 50 00:02:21,154 --> 00:02:22,954 Speaker 3: It's very It's also mixed in with a bit of 51 00:02:22,954 --> 00:02:26,474 Speaker 3: a lifestyle trend towards this kind of Tuscan aesthetic that 52 00:02:26,514 --> 00:02:26,994 Speaker 3: I guess. 53 00:02:26,834 --> 00:02:30,994 Speaker 1: It's like terra cotta tiles, soft warm lighting, everything's amber. 54 00:02:31,794 --> 00:02:33,074 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna. 55 00:02:32,874 --> 00:02:36,554 Speaker 3: Blame Belahadide on bringing this one back because I feel 56 00:02:36,594 --> 00:02:39,154 Speaker 3: like she's very much channeling this this look. 57 00:02:39,074 --> 00:02:41,314 Speaker 2: Right now, and it's so nineties as well, like this 58 00:02:41,354 --> 00:02:43,634 Speaker 2: could literally just be a nineties trend right like it 59 00:02:43,674 --> 00:02:46,074 Speaker 2: could be pointed to that. But adding in the Tuscan 60 00:02:46,154 --> 00:02:49,034 Speaker 2: mom just to like, you know, tied in a nice 61 00:02:49,114 --> 00:02:50,954 Speaker 2: cute bow, and then that becomes an esthetic. 62 00:02:51,074 --> 00:02:53,394 Speaker 1: That's the But make the question mark for me is 63 00:02:53,394 --> 00:02:57,394 Speaker 1: why Tuscan and why mom? What part of wearing platform 64 00:02:57,434 --> 00:03:00,954 Speaker 1: wedge heels? This is the difference. 65 00:03:00,994 --> 00:03:03,594 Speaker 3: It's like people are saying, we didn't appreciate this and 66 00:03:03,754 --> 00:03:05,714 Speaker 3: we had it like all our moms were getting around 67 00:03:05,714 --> 00:03:10,834 Speaker 3: looking like this and I'm like, be the TV moms. 68 00:03:09,394 --> 00:03:11,754 Speaker 1: On Modern Family, who was Sophia. 69 00:03:12,354 --> 00:03:16,714 Speaker 3: Yes, she's that, She's that. And it's also apparently it's 70 00:03:16,714 --> 00:03:19,994 Speaker 3: like Jessica Albert two thousand's street style. 71 00:03:20,514 --> 00:03:23,274 Speaker 1: You can see it. I love this. Will you dress 72 00:03:23,394 --> 00:03:25,594 Speaker 1: in a Are we Tuscan mom? Are we? Well? 73 00:03:25,594 --> 00:03:27,754 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm Tuscan mom. I'm really lacking 74 00:03:27,794 --> 00:03:29,034 Speaker 3: a villa to it. 75 00:03:29,394 --> 00:03:30,754 Speaker 1: I like, do you know what? 76 00:03:30,874 --> 00:03:33,154 Speaker 3: I think this is kind of a part of, you know, 77 00:03:33,194 --> 00:03:37,154 Speaker 3: that poochy summer trend that we had last summer. All 78 00:03:37,194 --> 00:03:39,874 Speaker 3: the American summer had like Hayley Bieber and all the 79 00:03:39,914 --> 00:03:42,994 Speaker 3: girlies were wearing pooci again. So the Poochie is a 80 00:03:42,994 --> 00:03:46,194 Speaker 3: brand that's famous for its sort of swirly bright prince 81 00:03:46,834 --> 00:03:47,554 Speaker 3: and I think. 82 00:03:47,434 --> 00:03:49,794 Speaker 1: This is kind of the boho top. This is kind of. 83 00:03:49,754 --> 00:03:52,154 Speaker 3: Bringing in a little bit of that, mixing back with 84 00:03:52,194 --> 00:03:55,234 Speaker 3: the Y two K low rise skinny jean, kind of 85 00:03:55,274 --> 00:03:58,434 Speaker 3: blending it into a recognizable esthetic that we can, like 86 00:03:58,474 --> 00:04:02,274 Speaker 3: you said, package up. So for me, I am quite like, 87 00:04:02,354 --> 00:04:05,034 Speaker 3: I don't mind a nice top, like a little boho top, 88 00:04:05,314 --> 00:04:06,034 Speaker 3: something with a bit of. 89 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:06,834 Speaker 1: A spaghetti strap. 90 00:04:07,114 --> 00:04:10,554 Speaker 3: I could see myself maybe doing the top I'm not 91 00:04:10,674 --> 00:04:12,274 Speaker 3: quite there on the accessories. 92 00:04:12,994 --> 00:04:16,074 Speaker 1: I'm there on the top, not hoops, but I do 93 00:04:17,634 --> 00:04:20,594 Speaker 1: low rise. I'm there. You've seen you. Yeah, I'm not 94 00:04:20,634 --> 00:04:23,113 Speaker 1: sure about the big designer bag and the heels. 95 00:04:23,274 --> 00:04:25,394 Speaker 3: I think the designer bag is coming back in a bit. 96 00:04:25,393 --> 00:04:27,153 Speaker 3: You know, we need to park this and have another 97 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:29,914 Speaker 3: conversation about the Chanel bag thing. Let's let's do that 98 00:04:29,993 --> 00:04:32,873 Speaker 3: at a later date. But designer bags are coming back. 99 00:04:32,834 --> 00:04:35,313 Speaker 2: So tuscan Mom, Okay, I'm going to go look that 100 00:04:35,393 --> 00:04:36,393 Speaker 2: up in TikTok after this. 101 00:04:36,553 --> 00:04:41,273 Speaker 1: Okay, get get Yeah, I love it. What else is 102 00:04:41,274 --> 00:04:44,873 Speaker 1: coming up in your algorithm? Have you seen the Angry 103 00:04:44,914 --> 00:04:48,794 Speaker 1: Birds campaign? The yes? Okay. 104 00:04:49,433 --> 00:04:54,034 Speaker 2: My first initial reaction was have they partnered with Angry Birds? 105 00:04:54,034 --> 00:04:55,433 Speaker 1: Which isn't that far fetched? 106 00:04:55,513 --> 00:04:55,713 Speaker 2: Right? 107 00:04:55,794 --> 00:04:57,953 Speaker 1: With like the iPad birds? 108 00:04:58,354 --> 00:05:00,034 Speaker 2: I thought, is there a new you know, we've seen 109 00:05:00,073 --> 00:05:03,434 Speaker 2: Golden Valley partner, there's the juice with New York Fashion Week. 110 00:05:03,474 --> 00:05:06,633 Speaker 2: We've seen some absurd partnership. That was my first initial 111 00:05:07,113 --> 00:05:08,553 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. 112 00:05:08,113 --> 00:05:10,633 Speaker 1: But doesn't actually look the bird the creatures? Should we 113 00:05:10,714 --> 00:05:12,513 Speaker 1: unpack it a bit? Tell me more about you having 114 00:05:12,594 --> 00:05:12,954 Speaker 1: seen it? 115 00:05:12,993 --> 00:05:17,113 Speaker 3: So basically, Prata has done a new campaign that was 116 00:05:17,193 --> 00:05:21,354 Speaker 3: disseminated across their Instagram. It features celebrities like Carry Mulligan, 117 00:05:21,513 --> 00:05:25,593 Speaker 3: Nicholas Holt, and some models dressed in the new season. 118 00:05:25,834 --> 00:05:29,433 Speaker 3: I think it's a spring summer collection and they're pictured 119 00:05:29,474 --> 00:05:35,514 Speaker 3: alongside these giant, creepy bird human hybrid creatures. 120 00:05:35,553 --> 00:05:36,474 Speaker 1: Like they're angry. 121 00:05:36,674 --> 00:05:39,594 Speaker 3: The faces are angry, and they're really like they're stranger 122 00:05:39,633 --> 00:05:43,553 Speaker 3: than like very clearly these images are AI generated. 123 00:05:43,594 --> 00:05:44,354 Speaker 1: These are not real. 124 00:05:44,714 --> 00:05:47,474 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're props, but I think they might be sort 125 00:05:47,474 --> 00:05:50,993 Speaker 3: of like humans in costumes, but they've been digitally altered. 126 00:05:51,953 --> 00:05:54,433 Speaker 3: And it's an artist called Jordan Wolfson that worked with 127 00:05:54,513 --> 00:05:57,034 Speaker 3: Prada on imagining these creatures, and. 128 00:05:56,953 --> 00:06:00,993 Speaker 2: He's quite a big deal in that surrealism virtual reality space. 129 00:06:01,113 --> 00:06:04,234 Speaker 3: Is I didn't know anything that's. 130 00:06:03,433 --> 00:06:05,514 Speaker 1: New York based, but yeah, partnering with him. 131 00:06:05,714 --> 00:06:08,914 Speaker 3: Like there's credibility with that, yes, because Pratt has always 132 00:06:08,914 --> 00:06:11,713 Speaker 3: been aligned with art. So this is really interesting to 133 00:06:11,753 --> 00:06:13,953 Speaker 3: me because I'm like, Okay, this is a different kind 134 00:06:13,953 --> 00:06:17,594 Speaker 3: of art. This campaign has really ignited a conversation around 135 00:06:17,594 --> 00:06:21,713 Speaker 3: the place of AI in high fashion, luxury fashion imagery, 136 00:06:21,753 --> 00:06:24,633 Speaker 3: and I guess fashion as a whole because we're starting 137 00:06:24,674 --> 00:06:28,514 Speaker 3: to have this this conversation is becoming unignorable right with 138 00:06:28,873 --> 00:06:32,073 Speaker 3: fashion brands in particular. You know, some of the larger 139 00:06:32,113 --> 00:06:35,993 Speaker 3: e commerce sites are starting to use AI generated models, 140 00:06:36,313 --> 00:06:39,914 Speaker 3: which gives people the ick, understandably, but there has been 141 00:06:40,034 --> 00:06:44,393 Speaker 3: a recent controversy in the Australian fashion space. I don't 142 00:06:44,393 --> 00:06:47,393 Speaker 3: know if you saw what happened, kind of went semi 143 00:06:47,474 --> 00:06:49,234 Speaker 3: viral with Hanson and Gretel. 144 00:06:49,553 --> 00:06:52,193 Speaker 2: Not disclosed, So they didn't disclose that they used AI. 145 00:06:52,513 --> 00:06:54,954 Speaker 3: Yes, so they did this beautiful shoot that they again 146 00:06:55,073 --> 00:06:57,073 Speaker 3: rolled out on their Instagram and it looked like it 147 00:06:57,113 --> 00:06:59,353 Speaker 3: was shot in could have been any of the Greek islands, 148 00:06:59,393 --> 00:07:02,594 Speaker 3: somewhere beautiful and esthetic in Europe, with this gorgeous model 149 00:07:02,674 --> 00:07:05,794 Speaker 3: looking very natural. In the new collection, there's a really 150 00:07:05,794 --> 00:07:10,153 Speaker 3: well known Australian photograph called Bridi Mac She's wolf cub 151 00:07:11,474 --> 00:07:19,794 Speaker 3: Wolf cub cup Yeah Instagram. But anyway, Bridey took them 152 00:07:19,794 --> 00:07:23,434 Speaker 3: to task and said, you know, she kind of didn't 153 00:07:23,434 --> 00:07:25,634 Speaker 3: come for them, but she asked a very reasonable question, 154 00:07:25,674 --> 00:07:28,354 Speaker 3: which is is this AI generated? She posted a comment 155 00:07:28,434 --> 00:07:30,914 Speaker 3: under one of the images and like me scrolling through 156 00:07:30,914 --> 00:07:33,714 Speaker 3: my feet and seeing those images, I would never have known, 157 00:07:33,754 --> 00:07:37,554 Speaker 3: Like it's so I still can't see the difference, and 158 00:07:37,674 --> 00:07:40,953 Speaker 3: the brand initially didn't respond, and then she asked again, 159 00:07:41,714 --> 00:07:44,074 Speaker 3: can I ask is this AI? And then when the 160 00:07:44,114 --> 00:07:47,074 Speaker 3: brand finally disclosed that the images were made with AI 161 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:50,194 Speaker 3: assistance or whatever the kind of party line is, she 162 00:07:50,314 --> 00:07:52,354 Speaker 3: posted about it on her feet and you know, as 163 00:07:52,393 --> 00:07:56,914 Speaker 3: a photographer who does these really naturalistic photo shoots in Europe, 164 00:07:56,953 --> 00:07:59,554 Speaker 3: it was very much evocative of her style. But then 165 00:07:59,554 --> 00:08:01,794 Speaker 3: they haven't used a photographer at all. 166 00:08:02,274 --> 00:08:04,153 Speaker 1: See, I think there's a big faux pat there. 167 00:08:04,154 --> 00:08:07,474 Speaker 2: I think like you'd credit the photography you've used, you'd 168 00:08:07,514 --> 00:08:10,554 Speaker 2: credit even just the AI designer who did it, or 169 00:08:10,594 --> 00:08:13,634 Speaker 2: you need some transparency around it being so new as. 170 00:08:13,474 --> 00:08:14,994 Speaker 1: Well, like I know, AI has been around. 171 00:08:14,834 --> 00:08:18,994 Speaker 2: For years, but being so new to the fashion space, 172 00:08:19,074 --> 00:08:21,833 Speaker 2: like you said, it's been around a lot within E comms, 173 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:25,514 Speaker 2: and we've been seeing these hyper real models for example 174 00:08:25,754 --> 00:08:28,674 Speaker 2: H and M remember how they models. But they also 175 00:08:28,754 --> 00:08:30,994 Speaker 2: sort of made it part of their campaign by getting 176 00:08:31,034 --> 00:08:34,314 Speaker 2: the models involved, saying here I am, they've used my image. 177 00:08:34,634 --> 00:08:36,554 Speaker 2: I can now be in two places at once. I 178 00:08:36,554 --> 00:08:39,034 Speaker 2: can be shooting myself in the States and then being 179 00:08:39,514 --> 00:08:40,514 Speaker 2: used across Australia. 180 00:08:40,674 --> 00:08:42,034 Speaker 1: Kenell John has done this as well. 181 00:08:42,074 --> 00:08:45,114 Speaker 3: Hasn't she used like allowed her likeness or something for 182 00:08:45,194 --> 00:08:47,434 Speaker 3: one of the brands. So I think that's the and 183 00:08:47,474 --> 00:08:50,314 Speaker 3: the sort of the sensitivity that's coming up for the audiences. 184 00:08:50,314 --> 00:08:51,594 Speaker 1: Well, you're not disclosing it. 185 00:08:51,634 --> 00:08:53,514 Speaker 3: Therefore, I don't know what's real and what's not real, 186 00:08:53,594 --> 00:08:57,354 Speaker 3: because the difference is with Prata, these are very that 187 00:08:57,434 --> 00:08:59,834 Speaker 3: those creatures don't exist. This is an art piece, you 188 00:08:59,874 --> 00:09:03,034 Speaker 3: can tell. But the audience still had a big backlash 189 00:09:03,074 --> 00:09:03,354 Speaker 3: to it. 190 00:09:03,354 --> 00:09:04,594 Speaker 1: There were all these comments. 191 00:09:04,794 --> 00:09:06,834 Speaker 3: I'm going to pull out a few people saying, what 192 00:09:06,954 --> 00:09:10,354 Speaker 3: is AI slop? No thanks you? Or my personal favorite, 193 00:09:10,434 --> 00:09:13,514 Speaker 3: lazy and terrifying. I love that we use the word 194 00:09:13,634 --> 00:09:16,554 Speaker 3: slot for AI slot. I find lots of people use that. 195 00:09:16,874 --> 00:09:19,114 Speaker 2: Just to be honest, I'm not opposed to AI being 196 00:09:19,234 --> 00:09:22,674 Speaker 2: used within fashion. I think it's inevitably going to happen. 197 00:09:22,754 --> 00:09:25,833 Speaker 2: We're seeing it a lot behind the scenes with productivity 198 00:09:26,034 --> 00:09:28,634 Speaker 2: and even trend reporting now, like it's just sped up 199 00:09:28,674 --> 00:09:31,234 Speaker 2: the process now that it's front of camera. 200 00:09:31,434 --> 00:09:32,953 Speaker 1: Like you were saying with Hanson and. 201 00:09:32,874 --> 00:09:37,354 Speaker 2: Gretel, I think we're getting served AI models and influencers 202 00:09:37,394 --> 00:09:37,914 Speaker 2: more than. 203 00:09:37,754 --> 00:09:43,834 Speaker 1: We think probably, And it's interesting with Prata, I think 204 00:09:44,594 --> 00:09:47,834 Speaker 1: who are the creative directors at the moment? Raf and Messer. 205 00:09:47,714 --> 00:09:52,914 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, music, Raf Simmons and Mutual Prata Yeah. 206 00:09:52,954 --> 00:09:55,394 Speaker 2: I find they sort of they're always a little bit 207 00:09:55,434 --> 00:09:57,994 Speaker 2: off kilter with what they do. They sort of tread 208 00:09:58,034 --> 00:10:02,194 Speaker 2: in that sort of political space where they've spoken about 209 00:10:03,314 --> 00:10:05,914 Speaker 2: or they had the gay rainbow on their run way 210 00:10:05,954 --> 00:10:08,434 Speaker 2: wun yes, and they've spoken about like pushing back on 211 00:10:08,874 --> 00:10:13,274 Speaker 2: the anti beauty commercialized look. Anyways, I think what they're 212 00:10:13,274 --> 00:10:16,274 Speaker 2: doing here they had an opportunity to make a statement 213 00:10:16,394 --> 00:10:19,714 Speaker 2: about AI and how it's infiltrating fashion, but I didn't 214 00:10:19,754 --> 00:10:20,754 Speaker 2: see that statement. 215 00:10:21,394 --> 00:10:24,474 Speaker 3: So that is so true because it's like, you're right, 216 00:10:24,594 --> 00:10:27,474 Speaker 3: this is really powerful imagery. It grabs you. Like as 217 00:10:27,474 --> 00:10:29,074 Speaker 3: soon as I saw it, I was like, Wow, need 218 00:10:29,114 --> 00:10:31,594 Speaker 3: to unpack that. That is really creepy and arresting. But 219 00:10:31,634 --> 00:10:34,874 Speaker 3: it you know, it stands for something. But I wasn't 220 00:10:34,914 --> 00:10:36,674 Speaker 3: quite sure what that was a. 221 00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:41,274 Speaker 2: Real conversation around how AI is becoming part of fashion. 222 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,394 Speaker 2: I thought it could have been really cool if you 223 00:10:43,474 --> 00:10:46,074 Speaker 2: saw these images and it was actually the model who 224 00:10:46,154 --> 00:10:46,954 Speaker 2: was AI and. 225 00:10:46,834 --> 00:10:48,074 Speaker 1: That bird was real. 226 00:10:48,594 --> 00:10:51,834 Speaker 2: That's so flipping, how like hyper real this whole space 227 00:10:51,994 --> 00:10:52,314 Speaker 2: I think. 228 00:10:52,194 --> 00:10:54,674 Speaker 3: You should send a note to you your thoughts, like 229 00:10:54,834 --> 00:10:55,194 Speaker 3: they just. 230 00:10:55,194 --> 00:10:57,594 Speaker 1: Let it be on their Instagram and then that that's 231 00:10:57,674 --> 00:11:00,234 Speaker 1: kind of cool and like prata energy, isn't it. 232 00:11:00,354 --> 00:11:03,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always hard for brands. The first to market 233 00:11:03,674 --> 00:11:06,034 Speaker 2: with any of this are going to get that backlashing criticism. 234 00:11:06,074 --> 00:11:08,754 Speaker 1: That's true. Anson and Gretel copped a lot of flak 235 00:11:08,794 --> 00:11:09,114 Speaker 1: for this. 236 00:11:09,554 --> 00:11:12,834 Speaker 3: But in a year's time, two years time, who knows 237 00:11:12,994 --> 00:11:15,194 Speaker 3: this will just be normal. Yeah, and I you know, 238 00:11:15,234 --> 00:11:17,274 Speaker 3: there's a certain amount of discomfort that we have to 239 00:11:17,274 --> 00:11:20,514 Speaker 3: sit with now. Like any new technology, particularly in the 240 00:11:20,554 --> 00:11:23,154 Speaker 3: fashion or the art or the creative space, we have 241 00:11:23,194 --> 00:11:24,274 Speaker 3: to learn to work with it. 242 00:11:24,434 --> 00:11:25,914 Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is just the beginning. 243 00:11:25,994 --> 00:11:28,394 Speaker 2: And in Australia, Sportscraft did it as well, but they 244 00:11:28,434 --> 00:11:31,714 Speaker 2: acknowledged the AI designer because I think there's a bit 245 00:11:31,754 --> 00:11:34,314 Speaker 2: of like it takes talent. I know they said it 246 00:11:34,354 --> 00:11:36,274 Speaker 2: was talent. Was a few of the comments arazy? 247 00:11:36,714 --> 00:11:40,634 Speaker 1: But to create these yeah, there is someone behind designing 248 00:11:41,354 --> 00:11:42,034 Speaker 1: these campaigns. 249 00:11:42,034 --> 00:11:44,034 Speaker 3: That's a really positive spit on something that could be 250 00:11:44,114 --> 00:11:44,833 Speaker 3: quite sit a star. 251 00:11:44,954 --> 00:11:45,354 Speaker 2: I love it. 252 00:11:45,514 --> 00:11:48,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see where we lad with it. Yeah, it 253 00:11:48,234 --> 00:11:48,914 Speaker 1: is interesting. 254 00:11:49,474 --> 00:11:52,194 Speaker 2: One thing I've been seeing tam which I'm excited about 255 00:11:52,274 --> 00:11:56,074 Speaker 2: is the J w Anderson collaboration with Uniclose that dropped 256 00:11:56,114 --> 00:11:59,994 Speaker 2: April second. J w Anderson he has had a long 257 00:12:00,074 --> 00:12:01,833 Speaker 2: term partnership with Uniclo and. 258 00:12:01,754 --> 00:12:04,714 Speaker 1: I've been going for years now, almost nine years. Oh wow, 259 00:12:04,754 --> 00:12:08,274 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was that long. They got it early. Yeah. 260 00:12:08,314 --> 00:12:10,594 Speaker 2: And for those who are unfamiliar with J. W Anderson, 261 00:12:10,634 --> 00:12:12,833 Speaker 2: he's got his own namesake brand. But he was at 262 00:12:12,834 --> 00:12:15,634 Speaker 2: the Helm of Louey Bay as a creative director for 263 00:12:15,674 --> 00:12:18,953 Speaker 2: eleven years. He was in charge of creating or designing the. 264 00:12:19,034 --> 00:12:21,714 Speaker 1: Puzzle Bag, which went viral iconic and. 265 00:12:21,634 --> 00:12:25,234 Speaker 2: Now his creative director of Christian Duore and his whole 266 00:12:25,314 --> 00:12:29,394 Speaker 2: new collection which has dropped is called field Notes, and 267 00:12:29,834 --> 00:12:34,514 Speaker 2: it kind of plays field think British countryside outer pieces, 268 00:12:34,994 --> 00:12:37,034 Speaker 2: that utility style dressing. 269 00:12:37,354 --> 00:12:39,114 Speaker 1: Is it a little bit preppy? Is crappy? 270 00:12:39,194 --> 00:12:41,554 Speaker 3: Because I find his collections for new Uniclo always have 271 00:12:41,674 --> 00:12:46,714 Speaker 3: that sort of UK centric, like that British sensibility to that. 272 00:12:46,714 --> 00:12:47,754 Speaker 1: That's exactly it. 273 00:12:48,234 --> 00:12:50,914 Speaker 2: And it's everything from jackets down to scarves and socks. 274 00:12:50,954 --> 00:12:53,434 Speaker 2: I love it because it's got that sporty esquea but 275 00:12:53,554 --> 00:12:54,914 Speaker 2: it's it's. 276 00:12:54,794 --> 00:12:57,834 Speaker 1: A bit country club sporty galleys, which is your prey. 277 00:12:57,914 --> 00:13:00,594 Speaker 2: Love a collaboration because it gives you access to these 278 00:13:00,714 --> 00:13:03,954 Speaker 2: luxury brands. One thing I love about what J. W. 279 00:13:04,034 --> 00:13:07,994 Speaker 2: Anderson does is he puts his little logo on these peas. Yes, 280 00:13:08,074 --> 00:13:10,474 Speaker 2: so it really feels like you're wearing a piece of 281 00:13:10,514 --> 00:13:11,394 Speaker 2: his We're a lot. 282 00:13:11,234 --> 00:13:14,954 Speaker 3: Of just like discounted or like diffusion labor. 283 00:13:14,714 --> 00:13:17,514 Speaker 2: Or it's not just on the back tag of the jacket, like. 284 00:13:17,514 --> 00:13:19,914 Speaker 1: It's actually loud and proud. This is the jade of Anderson. 285 00:13:19,954 --> 00:13:21,954 Speaker 3: I really love that he's kept this going because I 286 00:13:21,994 --> 00:13:24,434 Speaker 3: think now at the Helm of Dior he is arguably 287 00:13:24,634 --> 00:13:27,114 Speaker 3: him and mattheu Blazy for Chanelle, like would be the 288 00:13:27,314 --> 00:13:31,314 Speaker 3: two you know, top tier fashion design is working now 289 00:13:31,714 --> 00:13:34,114 Speaker 3: and really like in terms of his cachet and the 290 00:13:34,154 --> 00:13:36,714 Speaker 3: where he's at with his own personal brand, like so 291 00:13:36,954 --> 00:13:39,474 Speaker 3: licensing it out to another brand, having the time to design, 292 00:13:39,474 --> 00:13:41,754 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows how involved. I'm sure he's involved, 293 00:13:41,794 --> 00:13:44,114 Speaker 3: but the level I'm not sure. He's probably a team 294 00:13:44,154 --> 00:13:46,514 Speaker 3: working on in the background, but it is pretty amazing 295 00:13:46,874 --> 00:13:49,274 Speaker 3: the cloud that that brings unicloathes and it really. 296 00:13:49,074 --> 00:13:51,713 Speaker 2: Feels like his collection as well, Like you said, I 297 00:13:51,714 --> 00:13:53,354 Speaker 2: don't know how involved he is, but they've got an 298 00:13:53,394 --> 00:13:55,634 Speaker 2: Oxford shirt. You know, he's sort of known for those 299 00:13:55,794 --> 00:13:57,314 Speaker 2: off kilter proportions. 300 00:13:57,474 --> 00:14:00,674 Speaker 1: It's a crop Oxford shit. I love that feels very 301 00:14:00,754 --> 00:14:01,594 Speaker 1: jade of Anderson. 302 00:14:01,674 --> 00:14:03,554 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll be getting our hands on it after 303 00:14:03,594 --> 00:14:05,114 Speaker 3: this straight to uniclothe. 304 00:14:06,674 --> 00:14:09,394 Speaker 2: So that's what we've been seeing in the fashion zeit guys, 305 00:14:09,474 --> 00:14:11,914 Speaker 2: But what are we actually shopping right now? 306 00:14:11,954 --> 00:14:13,114 Speaker 1: What's in your shopping car? 307 00:14:13,474 --> 00:14:16,114 Speaker 3: So I swear, like a few episodes ago, I said, 308 00:14:16,114 --> 00:14:19,514 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure about doing a calf length boot, but 309 00:14:19,554 --> 00:14:21,874 Speaker 3: then all it takes is one image of Margo Robbie 310 00:14:21,994 --> 00:14:24,394 Speaker 3: going to a fashion fremire wearing half length boot for 311 00:14:24,434 --> 00:14:27,194 Speaker 3: me to be like, I need those. She's so compelling. 312 00:14:27,554 --> 00:14:31,154 Speaker 3: So Margo was wearing a boot. It was kind of 313 00:14:31,234 --> 00:14:34,514 Speaker 3: like a Western style boot and a riding boot. Had 314 00:14:34,514 --> 00:14:38,994 Speaker 3: a baby this sleek black, a slightly pointed toe, black 315 00:14:39,074 --> 00:14:42,234 Speaker 3: leather boot with a little mini dress and it kind 316 00:14:42,274 --> 00:14:45,234 Speaker 3: of just ignited my desire for a boot. 317 00:14:45,394 --> 00:14:47,554 Speaker 1: And we're heading into boot season now in winter. 318 00:14:48,234 --> 00:14:51,194 Speaker 3: Margo's boots are from kate Ka to Ait, which is 319 00:14:51,274 --> 00:14:53,674 Speaker 3: kind of the first word in like cool girl luxury 320 00:14:53,674 --> 00:14:56,314 Speaker 3: fashion brand. So they cost a lot of money, but 321 00:14:56,354 --> 00:14:59,034 Speaker 3: there's a lot on the market as well already. 322 00:14:58,874 --> 00:15:01,154 Speaker 1: And they're a bit loose fitting, right, Yeah, that's right. 323 00:15:01,194 --> 00:15:03,354 Speaker 3: So they're not your typical if you think like a 324 00:15:03,474 --> 00:15:07,034 Speaker 3: longer boot, you're probably thinking of maybe like a slout 325 00:15:07,474 --> 00:15:10,754 Speaker 3: leather or swayed or even a fitted boot, but these 326 00:15:10,834 --> 00:15:14,074 Speaker 3: are sort of they're they're sturdy and they sit away 327 00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:16,714 Speaker 3: from the leg, so a riding boot kind of, sir. 328 00:15:17,074 --> 00:15:18,554 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm seeing on the market. 329 00:15:18,634 --> 00:15:21,194 Speaker 3: So there's some options from Steve Matt and Jeffrey Campbell, 330 00:15:21,234 --> 00:15:23,994 Speaker 3: Tony Bianco, even Zara, but I'm going to save them 331 00:15:23,994 --> 00:15:25,994 Speaker 3: for bougie to budget nice. 332 00:15:26,354 --> 00:15:29,074 Speaker 2: I love that because I'm a big calf gal, so 333 00:15:29,114 --> 00:15:32,034 Speaker 2: I do actually find it quite challenging to find a 334 00:15:32,034 --> 00:15:32,954 Speaker 2: boot that fits. 335 00:15:33,394 --> 00:15:35,194 Speaker 3: Really, Oh you're a bit I thought you meant you're 336 00:15:35,234 --> 00:15:35,994 Speaker 3: like a big into it. 337 00:15:36,434 --> 00:15:38,834 Speaker 1: You've got big cars. It's all that training you're doing. 338 00:15:39,594 --> 00:15:41,994 Speaker 1: So these actually are quite practical for me. 339 00:15:42,234 --> 00:15:45,114 Speaker 3: Yes, And I think it just gives a slightly like 340 00:15:45,154 --> 00:15:47,754 Speaker 3: a more minimal sort of silhouette to your boot. 341 00:15:47,794 --> 00:15:49,594 Speaker 1: If you're not a Tuscan mum, you. 342 00:15:49,594 --> 00:15:51,794 Speaker 3: Might be doing you know, like that's more of your baggy, 343 00:15:51,914 --> 00:15:54,434 Speaker 3: sort of swayed brown boot. This is more for your 344 00:15:54,474 --> 00:15:57,034 Speaker 3: elevated street style kind of girly. But I think it's 345 00:15:57,034 --> 00:15:59,034 Speaker 3: a very practical choice as well, and I. 346 00:15:58,994 --> 00:16:00,794 Speaker 1: Like wearing it with the mini skirt as well. 347 00:16:00,914 --> 00:16:03,234 Speaker 3: Yeah Q yeah, what else could you wear those with? 348 00:16:03,274 --> 00:16:06,874 Speaker 3: Like a longer jaw a middi skirt or a jawd. 349 00:16:07,394 --> 00:16:10,674 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't. I'd probably do. Yeah. It's a tricky. 350 00:16:10,714 --> 00:16:12,834 Speaker 1: It's a styling thing, isn't it. Really? 351 00:16:12,874 --> 00:16:14,674 Speaker 3: Like the challenge is what you wear them with. You 352 00:16:14,714 --> 00:16:18,554 Speaker 3: could even lay them over a gene, yeah, committing gene. 353 00:16:18,634 --> 00:16:19,434 Speaker 3: Yeah nice? 354 00:16:19,874 --> 00:16:23,194 Speaker 1: What's your What have you noticed? What are you eyeing off? Well? 355 00:16:23,394 --> 00:16:26,434 Speaker 2: Something I was eyeing off that I actually purchased last 356 00:16:26,514 --> 00:16:31,594 Speaker 2: night was a wool triangle scaff So what I think 357 00:16:31,754 --> 00:16:33,514 Speaker 2: this is an extension from you know, we're seeing a 358 00:16:33,554 --> 00:16:37,554 Speaker 2: lot of the bandannas throughout spring, summer now a sort 359 00:16:37,554 --> 00:16:41,474 Speaker 2: of winter variation of this, And I think when people 360 00:16:41,514 --> 00:16:44,954 Speaker 2: pull back on spending, they don't stop caring about style. 361 00:16:45,034 --> 00:16:47,634 Speaker 2: They still want to like invest in something, but just 362 00:16:47,634 --> 00:16:49,354 Speaker 2: be a little bit more strategic with it. I think 363 00:16:49,354 --> 00:16:52,834 Speaker 2: people are becoming more educated and wanting good quality pieces 364 00:16:52,874 --> 00:16:56,114 Speaker 2: so wool, for example, buying a whole wool code or 365 00:16:56,114 --> 00:16:59,394 Speaker 2: a jumper is expensive, but actually just buying one hundred 366 00:16:59,394 --> 00:17:01,954 Speaker 2: percent wool scaff there, you know. 367 00:17:01,994 --> 00:17:04,914 Speaker 1: I found one for fifty two dollars on Etsy, which 368 00:17:04,954 --> 00:17:06,833 Speaker 1: I wow, so I bought that one. I bought that 369 00:17:06,874 --> 00:17:07,954 Speaker 1: one also, I think. 370 00:17:07,754 --> 00:17:11,354 Speaker 3: For our climate, you know, a wool coat as beautiful 371 00:17:11,354 --> 00:17:13,754 Speaker 3: as an investment piece as that is, like how many 372 00:17:13,754 --> 00:17:16,674 Speaker 3: opportunities are you really? Yes, maybe in Melbourne or Adelaide, 373 00:17:16,714 --> 00:17:19,754 Speaker 3: let Tasmania where it's that little bit cooler, but our 374 00:17:19,794 --> 00:17:22,914 Speaker 3: climate in Sydney, like there's just you know, yeah, you're 375 00:17:22,954 --> 00:17:24,394 Speaker 3: only going to get a few chances. 376 00:17:24,474 --> 00:17:27,114 Speaker 1: Whereas adding a little wool scar and this. 377 00:17:26,994 --> 00:17:28,954 Speaker 2: Is one that you'd wear sort of over your jacket, 378 00:17:28,994 --> 00:17:31,034 Speaker 2: over your outerwear, over your blazer and you do a 379 00:17:31,074 --> 00:17:31,714 Speaker 2: little tire. 380 00:17:31,554 --> 00:17:33,714 Speaker 1: For what's the triangle element. 381 00:17:33,434 --> 00:17:35,674 Speaker 2: So it's where it's hanging at the back, you see. 382 00:17:35,754 --> 00:17:38,474 Speaker 2: So it's like yeah, bandanna wrapped around your neck and 383 00:17:38,514 --> 00:17:39,794 Speaker 2: then the little tie at the front. 384 00:17:39,874 --> 00:17:44,914 Speaker 3: This is very French. It's very like Selene Michael Ryder Selene. 385 00:17:45,074 --> 00:17:46,833 Speaker 2: So I have been seeing people wear it over the 386 00:17:46,834 --> 00:17:49,114 Speaker 2: head like a headscarf, but I'd just wear it over 387 00:17:49,154 --> 00:17:52,313 Speaker 2: the oversized blazer over the trench. I got a red, 388 00:17:52,914 --> 00:17:55,234 Speaker 2: a baby blue, and a gray all from Etsy. 389 00:17:55,474 --> 00:17:57,074 Speaker 1: Cute, I want a red one. 390 00:17:57,354 --> 00:17:59,714 Speaker 2: I think it's just a nice bit of personality to 391 00:17:59,994 --> 00:18:02,074 Speaker 2: an outfit. And then also it allows you just to 392 00:18:02,074 --> 00:18:05,154 Speaker 2: stick to neutrals throughout winter and then just add of 393 00:18:05,194 --> 00:18:07,554 Speaker 2: popper color of red, popper gray. 394 00:18:07,634 --> 00:18:08,554 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. 395 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:10,914 Speaker 2: But yeah, I did see fifty two dollars on Etsy. 396 00:18:11,034 --> 00:18:13,914 Speaker 2: Iris and wool is another brand. They were higher priced 397 00:18:13,914 --> 00:18:17,593 Speaker 2: at one fifty. But either way, it's a lower hanging 398 00:18:17,674 --> 00:18:19,674 Speaker 2: fruit piece that you can add to your wardrobe in winter. 399 00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:20,474 Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant. 400 00:18:20,514 --> 00:18:23,554 Speaker 3: Speaking of coming up, we're going to be unpacking your 401 00:18:23,594 --> 00:18:24,553 Speaker 3: winter wardrobe. 402 00:18:24,874 --> 00:18:25,874 Speaker 1: That's one hack for you. 403 00:18:25,914 --> 00:18:36,114 Speaker 3: But we've got so many. 404 00:18:37,834 --> 00:18:40,554 Speaker 1: So we know we're on the verge of winter. 405 00:18:40,834 --> 00:18:43,194 Speaker 2: We're sort of at the moment in that no man's 406 00:18:43,274 --> 00:18:46,874 Speaker 2: land transseasonal dressing, which I actually find hard because some 407 00:18:46,954 --> 00:18:48,954 Speaker 2: days it can be really hot other days that like 408 00:18:49,114 --> 00:18:52,714 Speaker 2: sharp coldness can say you yeah, but with winter coming, 409 00:18:52,754 --> 00:18:55,714 Speaker 2: I find it's winter is quite challenging because you always 410 00:18:55,714 --> 00:18:58,474 Speaker 2: feel like you need a new wardrobe refresh. But just 411 00:18:58,514 --> 00:19:01,714 Speaker 2: with everything going on at the moment economically. 412 00:19:01,194 --> 00:19:04,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so challenging, and winter. 413 00:19:03,994 --> 00:19:06,394 Speaker 2: Is expensive buying all the new jacket, the boots. It 414 00:19:06,394 --> 00:19:08,594 Speaker 2: can get expense if you feel like you need a 415 00:19:08,634 --> 00:19:11,833 Speaker 2: whole wardrobe refresh, right, So how can we use what 416 00:19:11,834 --> 00:19:14,513 Speaker 2: we already have existing pieces that we can refresh for 417 00:19:14,594 --> 00:19:17,914 Speaker 2: this winter, or if there's just one hero key piece 418 00:19:17,954 --> 00:19:19,594 Speaker 2: that you think we should buy tam. 419 00:19:19,514 --> 00:19:22,714 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you thinking? So? I completely agree. 420 00:19:22,754 --> 00:19:25,154 Speaker 3: I think it's kind of putting your eggs in one 421 00:19:25,194 --> 00:19:29,234 Speaker 3: basket part in their post easter pon there. You know, 422 00:19:29,354 --> 00:19:33,194 Speaker 3: for me, this is really about dressing, Like, it's about 423 00:19:33,194 --> 00:19:36,994 Speaker 3: shopping smarter and dressing smarter. In winter, you can get 424 00:19:37,034 --> 00:19:39,954 Speaker 3: more mileage out of singular pieces if you do it well, 425 00:19:39,994 --> 00:19:42,714 Speaker 3: like I always find in summer and sometimes the shoulder 426 00:19:42,714 --> 00:19:44,754 Speaker 3: seasons as well, like it's more challenge. You feel like 427 00:19:44,754 --> 00:19:47,353 Speaker 3: you need a new look for every you know, like 428 00:19:47,594 --> 00:19:50,234 Speaker 3: you can get a bit of mileage out of a 429 00:19:50,234 --> 00:19:51,954 Speaker 3: great pair of shorts or a shirt, but you kind 430 00:19:51,954 --> 00:19:54,354 Speaker 3: of feel like you need more to work with, whereas 431 00:19:54,354 --> 00:19:56,674 Speaker 3: in winter I think you need less but you style 432 00:19:56,714 --> 00:19:57,034 Speaker 3: it more. 433 00:19:57,194 --> 00:19:58,754 Speaker 1: Yes, that makes sense, I know what you mean. 434 00:19:58,914 --> 00:20:01,594 Speaker 2: It's almost acceptable to have the one winter coat that 435 00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:02,434 Speaker 2: you just wear all your. 436 00:20:02,314 --> 00:20:04,394 Speaker 3: Sees exactly if it's a great coat that you love. 437 00:20:04,434 --> 00:20:07,273 Speaker 3: So to that point, I think the real win to 438 00:20:07,274 --> 00:20:09,834 Speaker 3: hero a piece that I'm seeing on the market, that 439 00:20:10,074 --> 00:20:12,513 Speaker 3: I'm seeing in all the kind of editorials and social 440 00:20:12,554 --> 00:20:16,474 Speaker 3: media stuff that I absorb is the jackets I. 441 00:20:16,354 --> 00:20:18,874 Speaker 1: Have never seen. This is the season of the jacket. 442 00:20:19,194 --> 00:20:21,034 Speaker 3: I just wrote a piece for Mama Mea with a 443 00:20:21,074 --> 00:20:24,354 Speaker 3: jacket edit kind of echoing this message. So for me, 444 00:20:24,514 --> 00:20:27,634 Speaker 3: if you update, if you choose to buy one new 445 00:20:27,674 --> 00:20:30,553 Speaker 3: piece for winter, I think make it a statement jacket. 446 00:20:30,554 --> 00:20:33,194 Speaker 3: And when I say statement, I don't necessarily mean it 447 00:20:33,234 --> 00:20:36,594 Speaker 3: needs to be fluffy or colorful. I definitely think it's 448 00:20:36,634 --> 00:20:39,354 Speaker 3: more of a We're in a more minimal mood in 449 00:20:39,434 --> 00:20:41,834 Speaker 3: fashion right now, where it's a bit more paired back 450 00:20:41,834 --> 00:20:45,514 Speaker 3: with the color palette, but the styling and the details 451 00:20:45,554 --> 00:20:47,794 Speaker 3: on the jacket are doing more of the work for you. 452 00:20:48,154 --> 00:20:50,234 Speaker 3: So a few of the key styles that I'm seeing, 453 00:20:50,314 --> 00:20:52,394 Speaker 3: I know we've discussed or some of the other hosts 454 00:20:52,434 --> 00:20:54,594 Speaker 3: have discussed on the show. The funnel neck jacket is 455 00:20:54,594 --> 00:20:57,994 Speaker 3: a big one, so having that statement collar that really 456 00:20:58,034 --> 00:20:58,794 Speaker 3: covers your neck. 457 00:20:59,394 --> 00:21:01,154 Speaker 2: I love a funnel neck. The one I'm wearing now 458 00:21:01,234 --> 00:21:02,354 Speaker 2: actually has that style. 459 00:21:02,434 --> 00:21:04,514 Speaker 1: Oh you've got multi purpose there. 460 00:21:05,234 --> 00:21:07,994 Speaker 2: I love it, Like for me personally, tan throughout the 461 00:21:08,074 --> 00:21:10,674 Speaker 2: year once a week. And why I'm wearing it today 462 00:21:10,714 --> 00:21:13,394 Speaker 2: is because I'm actually a little bit specially there with. 463 00:21:13,834 --> 00:21:15,273 Speaker 1: So it works really well covers it up. 464 00:21:15,314 --> 00:21:17,754 Speaker 2: But I also like just having the top buttons undone 465 00:21:17,834 --> 00:21:19,994 Speaker 2: and then the rest out so it flares out. So 466 00:21:20,194 --> 00:21:22,793 Speaker 2: just top two done of the funnel. Yeah, and that 467 00:21:22,874 --> 00:21:25,354 Speaker 2: works with leather or any sort of style. 468 00:21:25,314 --> 00:21:27,313 Speaker 3: Yeah, or a high waisted gene and you can kind 469 00:21:27,354 --> 00:21:29,194 Speaker 3: of show off the cut of the gene, so they 470 00:21:29,274 --> 00:21:32,234 Speaker 3: go funnel neck jackets. Really practical option that's going to 471 00:21:32,234 --> 00:21:34,514 Speaker 3: give you that warmth. You can layer a scarf over 472 00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:38,033 Speaker 3: it easily. But also the other styles we're seeing, the 473 00:21:38,114 --> 00:21:41,274 Speaker 3: oversized bomber is going strong. If you invested in one 474 00:21:41,514 --> 00:21:43,634 Speaker 3: or a cheap one or an expensive one last year, 475 00:21:44,514 --> 00:21:46,954 Speaker 3: you know, particularly in like brown, swede or leather, they're 476 00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:49,593 Speaker 3: still around big time, so don't feel like you have 477 00:21:49,634 --> 00:21:52,714 Speaker 3: to abandon that yet. Another one I'm seeing is this 478 00:21:52,834 --> 00:21:56,394 Speaker 3: barrel sleeve blazer, or you might be seeing it referred 479 00:21:56,434 --> 00:21:58,793 Speaker 3: to as an hour glass blazer. So if you're a 480 00:21:58,794 --> 00:22:01,754 Speaker 3: bit bored of your oversized blazer. A really good way 481 00:22:01,794 --> 00:22:04,514 Speaker 3: to reinterpret that that piece that you've come to rely 482 00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:06,954 Speaker 3: on is to go for more of an hour glass silhouette. 483 00:22:07,154 --> 00:22:09,714 Speaker 3: Typically they call it the barrel sleeve because the sleeve 484 00:22:09,754 --> 00:22:11,674 Speaker 3: has more of like it's kind of like the shirt 485 00:22:11,714 --> 00:22:14,474 Speaker 3: I'm wearing now, like a cocooning sort of cut to it, 486 00:22:14,514 --> 00:22:16,914 Speaker 3: where it sort of comes out at the shoulder and 487 00:22:16,954 --> 00:22:21,273 Speaker 3: then nips and then the jacket nips in at the waist. 488 00:22:22,594 --> 00:22:25,594 Speaker 3: It's almost it's this de or inspired like the bar jacket, 489 00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:30,154 Speaker 3: classic deal or bar jacket, but reinterpreted as that oversized 490 00:22:30,514 --> 00:22:31,034 Speaker 3: shape that. 491 00:22:31,234 --> 00:22:32,594 Speaker 1: So many of us love to wear. 492 00:22:32,954 --> 00:22:35,634 Speaker 3: And then the other jacket that I'm seeing going strong 493 00:22:35,634 --> 00:22:37,594 Speaker 3: on the market is a cropped trench coat. 494 00:22:38,474 --> 00:22:38,674 Speaker 1: Yees. 495 00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:41,674 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like pick your statement style because 496 00:22:41,674 --> 00:22:42,634 Speaker 3: there's a lot out there. 497 00:22:42,634 --> 00:22:44,194 Speaker 1: There's a jacket for everybody. 498 00:22:44,314 --> 00:22:46,794 Speaker 2: They really do do the heavy lifting. It doesn't really 499 00:22:46,794 --> 00:22:49,234 Speaker 2: matter what you're wearing underneath. It's the jacket that people see, 500 00:22:49,314 --> 00:22:50,794 Speaker 2: so a good one, and. 501 00:22:50,834 --> 00:22:52,874 Speaker 1: You can do jeans, you can do a T shirt 502 00:22:52,874 --> 00:22:53,354 Speaker 1: and jeans. 503 00:22:53,354 --> 00:22:55,594 Speaker 3: That's a good thing about like a great bomber or 504 00:22:55,754 --> 00:22:58,834 Speaker 3: an hour glass jacket is like, yeah, that really upgrades 505 00:22:58,874 --> 00:23:02,274 Speaker 3: your whole look without having to do much styling work. 506 00:23:02,474 --> 00:23:04,634 Speaker 3: You could add that little triangle scuff you get, add 507 00:23:04,634 --> 00:23:06,474 Speaker 3: a boot with your jeans. You could really win to 508 00:23:06,554 --> 00:23:09,874 Speaker 3: fire the look. But the base pieces are remaining the same. 509 00:23:09,994 --> 00:23:12,154 Speaker 3: It's great denim or you know, or a midi skirt 510 00:23:12,154 --> 00:23:13,874 Speaker 3: you already have in your closet, and then a new 511 00:23:13,954 --> 00:23:16,314 Speaker 3: jacket silhouette to make things feel fresh and like. 512 00:23:16,274 --> 00:23:18,634 Speaker 2: What you said, Tam, it's almost like, yeah, picking your 513 00:23:18,674 --> 00:23:21,354 Speaker 2: poison about the jacket you like, Like I always will 514 00:23:21,674 --> 00:23:23,674 Speaker 2: always love an oversized blazer. 515 00:23:23,834 --> 00:23:25,074 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they might not be. 516 00:23:25,154 --> 00:23:27,994 Speaker 2: Like the IT jacket or the it out of weear 517 00:23:28,034 --> 00:23:29,954 Speaker 2: for this season, but if you find something that you 518 00:23:30,074 --> 00:23:33,434 Speaker 2: like and it suits your style, it will last seasons upon. 519 00:23:33,354 --> 00:23:34,594 Speaker 1: Season, keep wearing it. 520 00:23:34,634 --> 00:23:37,194 Speaker 3: But these smaller updates to the silhouette and stuff are 521 00:23:37,194 --> 00:23:41,033 Speaker 3: what might you know, resort of reinvigorate the rest of 522 00:23:41,074 --> 00:23:41,754 Speaker 3: your wardrobe. 523 00:23:41,754 --> 00:23:44,033 Speaker 1: I think that's what a powerful silhouette can do. I 524 00:23:44,074 --> 00:23:44,394 Speaker 1: love that. 525 00:23:44,554 --> 00:23:48,313 Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't have to be expensive either. I think there's 526 00:23:48,354 --> 00:23:50,554 Speaker 3: a thought process around jackets, like I've got to spend 527 00:23:50,594 --> 00:23:52,194 Speaker 3: a few hundred dollars, I've got to spend a lot 528 00:23:52,234 --> 00:23:54,154 Speaker 3: of money to get them but can I tell you 529 00:23:54,194 --> 00:23:57,274 Speaker 3: Target are on a winning streak with their outwear right now. 530 00:23:57,314 --> 00:24:00,194 Speaker 3: I'm always browsing for my articles, particularly in the content 531 00:24:00,234 --> 00:24:02,434 Speaker 3: that I do. I'm always looking for affordable stuff that 532 00:24:02,514 --> 00:24:03,554 Speaker 3: looks lux nice. 533 00:24:03,674 --> 00:24:04,554 Speaker 1: Target is great. 534 00:24:04,594 --> 00:24:06,594 Speaker 3: They've got all the good shapes at the moment, so 535 00:24:06,674 --> 00:24:07,474 Speaker 3: have a little look. 536 00:24:07,834 --> 00:24:09,354 Speaker 1: There's also De Cuba. 537 00:24:09,834 --> 00:24:13,033 Speaker 3: They have a really good outerwear selection, particularly their jackets 538 00:24:13,034 --> 00:24:15,194 Speaker 3: at the moments, and really good blazers, but also like 539 00:24:15,554 --> 00:24:18,914 Speaker 3: faux leather biker bomber and really updated shapes. 540 00:24:18,994 --> 00:24:20,914 Speaker 2: Yeah nice, because I'm in the market. Yeah for a 541 00:24:20,954 --> 00:24:24,274 Speaker 2: faux leaver, it doesn't have to be faux genuine leather bomber, 542 00:24:24,514 --> 00:24:26,074 Speaker 2: oversized jacket, yes. 543 00:24:25,994 --> 00:24:27,434 Speaker 1: Love, I'll look at that. Yeah. Yeah. 544 00:24:27,474 --> 00:24:29,354 Speaker 3: So some great options there, and then you could also 545 00:24:29,434 --> 00:24:31,553 Speaker 3: try next. I don't know if this is somewhere that 546 00:24:31,594 --> 00:24:34,914 Speaker 3: you shop really No, it's kind of like a UK 547 00:24:34,994 --> 00:24:37,434 Speaker 3: It's a UK site that sort of just aggregates heaps 548 00:24:37,474 --> 00:24:39,634 Speaker 3: and heaps of brands and it's really easy to search 549 00:24:39,674 --> 00:24:42,394 Speaker 3: the style. And because the British market over there they 550 00:24:42,434 --> 00:24:46,073 Speaker 3: need outerwear, they need jackets, They've got thousands of options. 551 00:24:46,114 --> 00:24:48,033 Speaker 3: Such a good tip and they're a lot of them 552 00:24:48,034 --> 00:24:48,794 Speaker 3: are very affordable. 553 00:24:49,194 --> 00:24:49,394 Speaker 2: Cool. 554 00:24:49,434 --> 00:24:52,434 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well listen, I know you have a bit 555 00:24:52,434 --> 00:24:55,714 Speaker 3: of a hack for us when it comes to layering 556 00:24:55,834 --> 00:24:58,154 Speaker 3: for winter. This is something that you personally are very 557 00:24:58,194 --> 00:25:00,394 Speaker 3: good at. So I want to I want to know that. 558 00:25:01,914 --> 00:25:05,314 Speaker 1: Help us out. I do find layering it. 559 00:25:05,554 --> 00:25:06,994 Speaker 2: I don't want to tell people how to suck it 560 00:25:07,314 --> 00:25:09,033 Speaker 2: and how to layer, but I think there is a 561 00:25:09,074 --> 00:25:12,354 Speaker 2: real art to layering. And this actually came from you know, 562 00:25:12,434 --> 00:25:16,234 Speaker 2: Aaron Watson, the stylist in La. 563 00:25:15,834 --> 00:25:19,874 Speaker 1: She's style model, form A model, former model a lot. 564 00:25:20,474 --> 00:25:24,234 Speaker 2: Yes, remember she was like the eat girl all over Tumblr. 565 00:25:24,434 --> 00:25:24,793 Speaker 1: Yeah. 566 00:25:24,914 --> 00:25:29,073 Speaker 2: She she mentioned this whole art of layering and dressing 567 00:25:29,114 --> 00:25:31,754 Speaker 2: with intention. Have you ever just seen someone that got 568 00:25:31,754 --> 00:25:33,354 Speaker 2: the T shirt, the jacket and like. 569 00:25:33,314 --> 00:25:35,034 Speaker 1: How do they just look so cool? 570 00:25:35,074 --> 00:25:37,434 Speaker 2: Like I've got every piece they're wearing, but it just 571 00:25:37,474 --> 00:25:39,114 Speaker 2: they make it look style. 572 00:25:38,994 --> 00:25:41,994 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't come together in that way. Yeah. 573 00:25:42,034 --> 00:25:46,514 Speaker 2: And so what Aaron mentions with this is intentional dressing 574 00:25:46,754 --> 00:25:49,194 Speaker 2: and figuring out your layers when you get dressed. And 575 00:25:49,274 --> 00:25:51,754 Speaker 2: she's got this method which I'll chat through. But now 576 00:25:51,794 --> 00:25:54,114 Speaker 2: that I've sort of seen this, I can't unsee it. 577 00:25:54,154 --> 00:25:56,714 Speaker 2: When I see a really nice, well dressed woman you 578 00:25:56,794 --> 00:25:58,874 Speaker 2: almost can break down the layers and you can see 579 00:25:58,914 --> 00:25:59,793 Speaker 2: how she's done it. 580 00:25:59,874 --> 00:26:00,234 Speaker 1: Interesting. 581 00:26:00,274 --> 00:26:03,074 Speaker 3: So there's like a formula. There's a bit of a formula. Okay, 582 00:26:03,194 --> 00:26:04,273 Speaker 3: so let me go through it. 583 00:26:04,394 --> 00:26:09,513 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. So the four steps. You've got mid, outer, 584 00:26:09,794 --> 00:26:13,874 Speaker 2: and styling. So when you're getting dressed, and you can 585 00:26:13,954 --> 00:26:15,754 Speaker 2: do all of this with what you already own. Right, 586 00:26:16,034 --> 00:26:18,874 Speaker 2: the base is what it is. It's fitted close to 587 00:26:18,874 --> 00:26:21,034 Speaker 2: the bottle body. So you might have a baby tea, 588 00:26:21,034 --> 00:26:24,514 Speaker 2: a white baby tea, long sleeve top. You might have 589 00:26:24,594 --> 00:26:27,994 Speaker 2: a turtleneck. I do a lot of turtlenecks in winter, Okay. Yeah, 590 00:26:28,034 --> 00:26:30,513 Speaker 2: And then you move to mid and that might be 591 00:26:30,914 --> 00:26:34,874 Speaker 2: a cute cashmir it could be a knitted vest. It's 592 00:26:34,954 --> 00:26:38,234 Speaker 2: just something that goes over the white baby tea preferably. 593 00:26:38,274 --> 00:26:39,674 Speaker 1: I should say white is your base. 594 00:26:40,234 --> 00:26:43,354 Speaker 2: But what the intention behind it is making sure you 595 00:26:43,394 --> 00:26:45,914 Speaker 2: can see a bit of that white tea underneath the 596 00:26:45,994 --> 00:26:46,514 Speaker 2: cash hair. 597 00:26:46,954 --> 00:26:50,274 Speaker 3: It gives a level of detail and attention to an outfit, 598 00:26:50,474 --> 00:26:53,794 Speaker 3: especially the white. Something about throwing the white onto your 599 00:26:53,834 --> 00:26:56,234 Speaker 3: face or lightening up the top of your outfit. 600 00:26:56,834 --> 00:26:58,513 Speaker 2: Yeah, just exposing a bit of the white at the 601 00:26:58,554 --> 00:26:59,593 Speaker 2: top or at the bottom. 602 00:27:00,034 --> 00:27:00,914 Speaker 1: Of your outfit. 603 00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:02,793 Speaker 3: So you've got a bit of that actually now like 604 00:27:02,874 --> 00:27:05,954 Speaker 3: layered t shirts and things with a white longer longer 605 00:27:05,994 --> 00:27:08,554 Speaker 3: tea underneath and then a shortest sleeve tea over the top. 606 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:11,394 Speaker 2: Lines are actually, yeah, I saw those online lineetes where 607 00:27:11,394 --> 00:27:14,194 Speaker 2: they're actually selling that double look tea. So the fourth steps, 608 00:27:14,194 --> 00:27:16,474 Speaker 2: you've got base that fitted white tea or whatnot. 609 00:27:16,834 --> 00:27:18,754 Speaker 1: Mid is for warmth. There might be a knit. 610 00:27:18,834 --> 00:27:21,954 Speaker 2: It could be in Oxford shirt, a button down cashmere. 611 00:27:22,034 --> 00:27:24,674 Speaker 2: You've then got your outer, which adds that structure. So 612 00:27:24,794 --> 00:27:27,194 Speaker 2: like you were talking about all those different oudor jackets, 613 00:27:27,394 --> 00:27:30,234 Speaker 2: choose one that you like. It could still be a trench. 614 00:27:30,354 --> 00:27:32,634 Speaker 2: Everyone seems to have a trench and that still works. 615 00:27:32,674 --> 00:27:35,394 Speaker 2: Don't think that that's outdated. Same with the oversized blaser. 616 00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:37,754 Speaker 2: You've got your outer on top, so you've got three 617 00:27:37,834 --> 00:27:39,714 Speaker 2: layers at the moment. And then your fourth is that 618 00:27:39,914 --> 00:27:43,474 Speaker 2: styling element. So it could be that wool scarf that 619 00:27:43,514 --> 00:27:46,194 Speaker 2: I spoke about. It could be a cap, it could 620 00:27:46,234 --> 00:27:50,274 Speaker 2: be a beanie. So it's thinking of those four steps 621 00:27:50,354 --> 00:27:51,754 Speaker 2: when getting ready in winter. 622 00:27:52,354 --> 00:27:53,914 Speaker 1: So a couple of examples. 623 00:27:53,954 --> 00:27:56,794 Speaker 2: If you're going for like a chic vibe, you could 624 00:27:56,834 --> 00:27:59,954 Speaker 2: do the white baby tea, a knit sweater on top, 625 00:28:00,274 --> 00:28:02,234 Speaker 2: the trench and then the wool scarf. 626 00:28:02,354 --> 00:28:03,154 Speaker 1: But if you're going for. 627 00:28:03,154 --> 00:28:05,714 Speaker 2: More of a street where sporty look, you could do 628 00:28:06,154 --> 00:28:09,674 Speaker 2: a tea with a hoodie over the top and then 629 00:28:09,754 --> 00:28:11,954 Speaker 2: your jacket over the top could be what and then 630 00:28:11,994 --> 00:28:14,594 Speaker 2: you put make sure you pull your hoodie out so 631 00:28:14,674 --> 00:28:17,674 Speaker 2: have the hoodie exposed and the jacket over the jacket, 632 00:28:17,754 --> 00:28:20,874 Speaker 2: and then the baseball cap. So it's just elements that 633 00:28:20,954 --> 00:28:23,474 Speaker 2: we all have and pull together. But just whether it 634 00:28:23,514 --> 00:28:25,994 Speaker 2: be exposing the white tea, having the hoodie over the back, 635 00:28:26,394 --> 00:28:29,314 Speaker 2: having a cardi over the trench as well, that could 636 00:28:29,314 --> 00:28:30,554 Speaker 2: be styling elm. 637 00:28:30,474 --> 00:28:31,034 Speaker 1: Yes, love. 638 00:28:31,154 --> 00:28:35,714 Speaker 3: It's just it looks more intentional, and that's sometimes that's 639 00:28:35,754 --> 00:28:39,914 Speaker 3: the difference. It's ironic how the word effortless, like an 640 00:28:39,914 --> 00:28:43,594 Speaker 3: effortless outfit actually usually requires the most effort to look 641 00:28:43,594 --> 00:28:46,114 Speaker 3: that way, Like you know that that that cool girly 642 00:28:46,234 --> 00:28:49,634 Speaker 3: on on TikTok or Instagram that's just thrown her shirt 643 00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:52,154 Speaker 3: around her waist with this perfect blazer on, Like that's 644 00:28:52,194 --> 00:28:54,914 Speaker 3: not that's not effortless, that's effort full and there's no 645 00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:57,514 Speaker 3: shame in that totally squeaking the outfit to make it 646 00:28:57,554 --> 00:28:58,314 Speaker 3: look considered. 647 00:28:58,514 --> 00:29:01,274 Speaker 2: And that's another styling element that you could do with 648 00:29:01,314 --> 00:29:03,914 Speaker 2: your fourth in styling layer is have something tight around 649 00:29:03,954 --> 00:29:04,714 Speaker 2: your waist as well. 650 00:29:04,874 --> 00:29:06,514 Speaker 1: I love this. I love that this is back. 651 00:29:06,554 --> 00:29:08,874 Speaker 3: It's kind of you know, we're seeing more check shirts 652 00:29:08,874 --> 00:29:10,194 Speaker 3: and things on the market, but you can do it 653 00:29:10,194 --> 00:29:12,394 Speaker 3: with a knit as well. I do love the little 654 00:29:12,434 --> 00:29:14,994 Speaker 3: hit of plaid or check go too. Yeah, this is great. 655 00:29:15,354 --> 00:29:18,034 Speaker 3: I can really visualize what you're saying, and I feel 656 00:29:18,034 --> 00:29:20,474 Speaker 3: like many of us might inherently already kind of do this, 657 00:29:20,554 --> 00:29:22,834 Speaker 3: but it just gives you, like a formula when you're 658 00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:24,274 Speaker 3: getting ready or you feel like you're in a bit 659 00:29:24,274 --> 00:29:26,474 Speaker 3: of a bind, like how can I add some more, 660 00:29:27,034 --> 00:29:30,514 Speaker 3: you know, a bit more fashion credibility to this law. 661 00:29:30,434 --> 00:29:33,114 Speaker 2: And it's all around you dressing with intention and now 662 00:29:33,154 --> 00:29:35,074 Speaker 2: that you sort of know the formula, or if it's 663 00:29:35,114 --> 00:29:37,314 Speaker 2: just a refresh for those listening or watching it at home, 664 00:29:37,594 --> 00:29:38,794 Speaker 2: it's you can't unsee it. 665 00:29:38,874 --> 00:29:41,354 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see people pulling this formula together. You've 666 00:29:41,394 --> 00:29:42,274 Speaker 1: opened my eyes. 667 00:29:44,074 --> 00:29:46,594 Speaker 3: So another great styling update for winter, I think, is 668 00:29:46,674 --> 00:29:50,874 Speaker 3: rethinking your base pieces. You know, we've talked about jackets, 669 00:29:50,874 --> 00:29:54,114 Speaker 3: but denim is really having a moment. Obviously, blue and 670 00:29:54,154 --> 00:29:56,234 Speaker 3: black denim aren't going anywhere. We're seeing a lot of 671 00:29:56,234 --> 00:29:59,794 Speaker 3: that Canadian tuxedo on the market, so do continue to 672 00:29:59,874 --> 00:30:02,314 Speaker 3: wear and invest in blue and black denim. But I'm 673 00:30:02,354 --> 00:30:05,194 Speaker 3: seeing more variation in the shades now, and I think 674 00:30:05,234 --> 00:30:07,594 Speaker 3: this is a way that you can refer fresh your 675 00:30:07,634 --> 00:30:10,994 Speaker 3: closet without having to kind of update everything. So looking 676 00:30:10,994 --> 00:30:15,954 Speaker 3: into new shades like khaki brown, chocolate brown, even beige 677 00:30:16,354 --> 00:30:20,154 Speaker 3: and white or sort of ecru colored denim, they're very 678 00:30:20,154 --> 00:30:22,394 Speaker 3: on trend at the moment, but they really I think 679 00:30:22,394 --> 00:30:25,914 Speaker 3: this is a great easy update to any person's casual wardrobe, 680 00:30:25,954 --> 00:30:27,554 Speaker 3: particularly because they mix back. 681 00:30:27,794 --> 00:30:30,674 Speaker 1: These colors mix back beautifully with neutrals but also with color. 682 00:30:31,074 --> 00:30:34,594 Speaker 3: So you could do a khaki gene with like a 683 00:30:34,634 --> 00:30:37,674 Speaker 3: cobalt blue or a red, or you could mix that 684 00:30:37,754 --> 00:30:39,474 Speaker 3: back with a gray or a brown. 685 00:30:39,794 --> 00:30:41,754 Speaker 1: You know, it's really easy. It's nice color. 686 00:30:41,754 --> 00:30:45,634 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, yeah, it's easy to incorporate, whereas I 687 00:30:45,634 --> 00:30:49,394 Speaker 2: saw Nagnata have like a bright chili red gene, which amazing. 688 00:30:49,594 --> 00:30:51,474 Speaker 2: But yeah, if you're just buying the one off piece 689 00:30:51,514 --> 00:30:53,434 Speaker 2: to get you through the whole of winter, it's difficult. 690 00:30:53,554 --> 00:30:55,474 Speaker 3: It's like there was pink Denim had a moment a 691 00:30:55,514 --> 00:30:57,594 Speaker 3: little while ago, and I really thought about it. But 692 00:30:58,154 --> 00:31:01,394 Speaker 3: you know when you were speaking about longevity a khaki gene, Yes, 693 00:31:01,434 --> 00:31:03,514 Speaker 3: you might wear it a lot this season because it's 694 00:31:03,554 --> 00:31:05,594 Speaker 3: on trend, and you might put it away for a 695 00:31:05,634 --> 00:31:06,914 Speaker 3: little while, but then you're going to have that in 696 00:31:06,954 --> 00:31:09,794 Speaker 3: your closet for a longer a longer time. I just 697 00:31:09,834 --> 00:31:12,314 Speaker 3: think it's a way to make your outfit feel that 698 00:31:12,394 --> 00:31:15,634 Speaker 3: little bit fashioning and new without needing to overhaul the 699 00:31:15,674 --> 00:31:19,034 Speaker 3: whole look. And I've been looking for some affordable options. 700 00:31:19,274 --> 00:31:22,554 Speaker 3: Big brands like Big W Kmart, they've got there straight 701 00:31:22,594 --> 00:31:23,394 Speaker 3: across this trend. 702 00:31:23,554 --> 00:31:25,714 Speaker 2: They've got the cake because I'm loving the idea of 703 00:31:25,794 --> 00:31:26,314 Speaker 2: carcay Jack. 704 00:31:26,794 --> 00:31:29,634 Speaker 3: I've seen a brown a big W. But I think 705 00:31:29,674 --> 00:31:32,034 Speaker 3: there is this is trickling in, so keep an eye 706 00:31:32,034 --> 00:31:33,754 Speaker 3: on it. If they're not there now, I think they 707 00:31:33,794 --> 00:31:34,514 Speaker 3: will be soon. 708 00:31:34,634 --> 00:31:34,834 Speaker 1: Yeah. 709 00:31:34,874 --> 00:31:37,034 Speaker 3: Cool, But yeah, a lot of the brands are doing it, 710 00:31:37,314 --> 00:31:39,554 Speaker 3: and the denim brands as well, so you know it's 711 00:31:39,554 --> 00:31:41,234 Speaker 3: a small change with a big impact. 712 00:31:41,354 --> 00:31:42,074 Speaker 1: Love that. Yeah. 713 00:31:42,194 --> 00:31:44,034 Speaker 2: I might mention as well that, like you said, the 714 00:31:44,074 --> 00:31:47,194 Speaker 2: Canadian tuxedo, I do live in that in winter. So 715 00:31:47,274 --> 00:31:49,634 Speaker 2: if you are buying. If you see from a shop 716 00:31:49,634 --> 00:31:52,594 Speaker 2: that've got the jeans and the jacket, I think if 717 00:31:52,594 --> 00:31:55,074 Speaker 2: you can buy both when you're there, because then it's matching. 718 00:31:55,114 --> 00:31:56,914 Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about sort of matching different 719 00:31:56,954 --> 00:31:59,474 Speaker 2: colors of the denim and it might be slightly off, 720 00:31:59,474 --> 00:32:01,994 Speaker 2: and which is such an ek for me, Like no 721 00:32:02,074 --> 00:32:05,154 Speaker 2: I tried, but having the two pieces cut from the 722 00:32:05,194 --> 00:32:08,314 Speaker 2: same denim. I really just turn to that almost just 723 00:32:08,354 --> 00:32:09,474 Speaker 2: as a bit of a uniform. 724 00:32:09,514 --> 00:32:11,874 Speaker 3: It's so easy and it's like, think about all the 725 00:32:11,874 --> 00:32:14,594 Speaker 3: wearability you get out of a matching set in summer. 726 00:32:14,954 --> 00:32:17,954 Speaker 3: This is kind of winter Australian Winter's version of that 727 00:32:18,074 --> 00:32:20,994 Speaker 3: go to matching set, isn't it denim? And I'm really 728 00:32:21,034 --> 00:32:23,474 Speaker 3: loving a few of the brands I'm seeing are doing 729 00:32:23,554 --> 00:32:27,434 Speaker 3: like more structured denim, so you can still do that oversized, 730 00:32:27,874 --> 00:32:30,794 Speaker 3: you know, shack it back with a gene, but I'm 731 00:32:30,834 --> 00:32:34,354 Speaker 3: seeing more like the hourglass shape in the denim. It's 732 00:32:34,394 --> 00:32:36,314 Speaker 3: a bit more elevated, so you could even do that 733 00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:38,874 Speaker 3: as an evening where lor not eveningwear, but like a 734 00:32:38,954 --> 00:32:40,714 Speaker 3: going out yeah for dinner. 735 00:32:41,154 --> 00:32:43,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, So after the break, Tam is going to take 736 00:32:43,914 --> 00:32:46,514 Speaker 2: us through her Bougie to budget where she's looked at 737 00:32:46,554 --> 00:32:48,874 Speaker 2: the Margo inspired black riding boots. 738 00:32:48,874 --> 00:33:02,594 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see those right after the break. It's 739 00:33:02,754 --> 00:33:06,314 Speaker 1: very expensive, how wondred percent. 740 00:33:07,714 --> 00:33:10,154 Speaker 3: So I've got some boots for you inspired by the pair, 741 00:33:10,354 --> 00:33:12,794 Speaker 3: the Kate pair that Margot Robbie was wearing. 742 00:33:12,954 --> 00:33:14,554 Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to do it. Let's be real, we're 743 00:33:14,554 --> 00:33:16,794 Speaker 1: not going to get the Kate ones. Think they're in 744 00:33:16,834 --> 00:33:19,874 Speaker 1: my budget, my friend little you know the price of 745 00:33:19,914 --> 00:33:20,594 Speaker 1: the Kate ones. 746 00:33:20,634 --> 00:33:23,114 Speaker 3: I don't, but I'm going to say they'd probably be 747 00:33:23,194 --> 00:33:28,554 Speaker 3: in that two thousand. Kate is really spendy and she 748 00:33:28,714 --> 00:33:31,274 Speaker 3: probably got sent them, let's be honest, although she could 749 00:33:31,314 --> 00:33:33,314 Speaker 3: afford to buy the mostlf. So look, we've got a 750 00:33:33,314 --> 00:33:36,034 Speaker 3: few price variations here. We're going to do budget, mid 751 00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:37,634 Speaker 3: range and bougie. 752 00:33:37,674 --> 00:33:38,514 Speaker 1: The first pair I. 753 00:33:38,514 --> 00:33:41,234 Speaker 3: Found are from Therapy, which is an affordable shoe brown 754 00:33:41,274 --> 00:33:44,274 Speaker 3: that does really cool, up to date on trend silhouettes 755 00:33:44,954 --> 00:33:47,754 Speaker 3: at a great price. So they are the Albany tall 756 00:33:47,914 --> 00:33:50,754 Speaker 3: boot black. They're one hundred and thirty nine ninety five. 757 00:33:50,874 --> 00:33:54,074 Speaker 3: This is a non leather so it's vegan leather. It's 758 00:33:54,114 --> 00:33:56,994 Speaker 3: a black knee high riding boot. With a rounded toe 759 00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:59,434 Speaker 3: this time. So Margo's had that kind of western toe, 760 00:33:59,474 --> 00:34:00,354 Speaker 3: but this is rounded. 761 00:34:00,474 --> 00:34:00,914 Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. 762 00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:03,474 Speaker 3: They've got a little bit stitching around the ankle as well, 763 00:34:03,514 --> 00:34:05,394 Speaker 3: which gives them a bit of detail. This is a 764 00:34:05,394 --> 00:34:09,434 Speaker 3: great affordable option, So they're cute. For my mid range pick, 765 00:34:09,554 --> 00:34:12,634 Speaker 3: I'm going with Assembly Label. Assembly Label or a brand 766 00:34:12,634 --> 00:34:14,393 Speaker 3: I shop at a lot for their clothes, but they 767 00:34:14,433 --> 00:34:18,154 Speaker 3: actually have really good accessory Game two generally very minimal 768 00:34:19,434 --> 00:34:22,914 Speaker 3: and pared back accessories at a good price point for 769 00:34:23,274 --> 00:34:27,194 Speaker 3: the quality. So Assembly Label has the Stevie Leather riding 770 00:34:27,234 --> 00:34:29,354 Speaker 3: boot for three hundred dollars, which I think is a 771 00:34:29,354 --> 00:34:34,194 Speaker 3: good price point for good quality, well designed leather accessory. 772 00:34:34,234 --> 00:34:37,354 Speaker 1: So these are leather, Yeah, yeah, this is kind of 773 00:34:37,354 --> 00:34:39,954 Speaker 1: to me. This is like the perfect black rock. And 774 00:34:40,034 --> 00:34:42,714 Speaker 1: these aren't healed, right, They're flat, No, they're flat. Yeah. 775 00:34:42,754 --> 00:34:46,354 Speaker 1: They've got that like tiny like mini platform. Yeah. 776 00:34:46,434 --> 00:34:48,594 Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially you could wear them walking around all day 777 00:34:48,674 --> 00:34:51,274 Speaker 3: or that's the that's the theory. But these are they 778 00:34:51,314 --> 00:34:55,034 Speaker 3: have that more western toe shape that's slightly pointed and 779 00:34:55,074 --> 00:34:56,514 Speaker 3: they hit just below the knee. 780 00:34:56,554 --> 00:34:58,913 Speaker 1: These for me are like the holy grail. I think 781 00:34:58,914 --> 00:35:00,354 Speaker 1: I'm going to get these pees. 782 00:35:00,114 --> 00:35:02,314 Speaker 3: Might have to go in my car too, and then 783 00:35:02,394 --> 00:35:05,234 Speaker 3: for a bougie pick. I've pulled out boots from a 784 00:35:05,274 --> 00:35:06,994 Speaker 3: brand called Fry if you don't know. 785 00:35:07,114 --> 00:35:08,473 Speaker 1: So, they're a big deal in the US. 786 00:35:08,514 --> 00:35:12,114 Speaker 3: They're actually they claim to be America's oldest shoe brand. 787 00:35:12,634 --> 00:35:15,834 Speaker 3: But Fry recently had a boot of theirs go viral. 788 00:35:15,874 --> 00:35:19,354 Speaker 3: It's called the Campus Boot, so that style also comes 789 00:35:19,394 --> 00:35:21,754 Speaker 3: in black. I think it's like a variation on the 790 00:35:21,874 --> 00:35:25,834 Speaker 3: viral one, but it's called the Campus fourteen L boot 791 00:35:25,994 --> 00:35:27,474 Speaker 3: and it's available at free people. 792 00:35:27,754 --> 00:35:28,194 Speaker 1: Okay. 793 00:35:28,234 --> 00:35:32,754 Speaker 3: This is like a sturdy, thick leather round toe riding boot. 794 00:35:32,914 --> 00:35:34,394 Speaker 1: Okay. So it's calf length. 795 00:35:34,634 --> 00:35:36,714 Speaker 3: They're quite wide around the legs, so they give you 796 00:35:36,754 --> 00:35:39,634 Speaker 3: that sort of silhouette where the boot kind of breaks 797 00:35:39,714 --> 00:35:41,834 Speaker 3: up at your calf and you know, it's a really 798 00:35:41,874 --> 00:35:44,514 Speaker 3: good festival boot, but it's also a good city getting 799 00:35:44,514 --> 00:35:45,033 Speaker 3: around the city. 800 00:35:45,194 --> 00:35:48,074 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, And how much are those one? These ones are? 801 00:35:48,714 --> 00:35:52,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're seven hundred and twenty five dollars eighty approximately 802 00:35:52,834 --> 00:35:55,314 Speaker 3: with the US conversion. But they're the kind of thing 803 00:35:55,314 --> 00:35:57,634 Speaker 3: that you're going to have forever. I personally think you 804 00:35:57,674 --> 00:36:00,034 Speaker 3: can get more affordable versions of the same thing but 805 00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:03,114 Speaker 3: if you want to splurge on the og, yeah, there 806 00:36:03,154 --> 00:36:03,473 Speaker 3: it is. 807 00:36:03,514 --> 00:36:05,473 Speaker 2: And I like the idea of the Yeah, a bit 808 00:36:05,514 --> 00:36:07,513 Speaker 2: more space. I guess it's not touching the car. 809 00:36:07,754 --> 00:36:11,754 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really it leans into that Margo Robbie look that's right. Yeah, yeah, I. 810 00:36:11,754 --> 00:36:14,754 Speaker 2: Think I'm gonna get the assembly like because I'm sort 811 00:36:14,754 --> 00:36:16,754 Speaker 2: of really getting into horse riding at the minute. 812 00:36:16,794 --> 00:36:19,354 Speaker 1: So it's practical. There you go. Could you wear them 813 00:36:19,354 --> 00:36:24,114 Speaker 1: on a horse? That report back? That sounds great? 814 00:36:24,394 --> 00:36:27,074 Speaker 2: So what have you picked for your budget this week? 815 00:36:27,314 --> 00:36:31,034 Speaker 2: So this week I'm looking at Maxie coats. They're not 816 00:36:31,114 --> 00:36:33,074 Speaker 2: all French coats, but I like the idea of just 817 00:36:33,154 --> 00:36:37,314 Speaker 2: a long floor length coat. I find that practically for 818 00:36:37,354 --> 00:36:40,913 Speaker 2: the warmth. But also it's that laziness outfit. It really 819 00:36:41,074 --> 00:36:43,474 Speaker 2: it's covering really what you're wearing. 820 00:36:43,714 --> 00:36:45,634 Speaker 1: I kinda wear sweatpants underneath. 821 00:36:45,874 --> 00:36:48,393 Speaker 2: So if I'm running around, if I'm going to the 822 00:36:48,394 --> 00:36:50,954 Speaker 2: gym after drop off, I've got gym were underneath. It 823 00:36:50,994 --> 00:36:54,473 Speaker 2: could be paired with sneakers, heels, boots, whatever I'm wearing. 824 00:36:54,514 --> 00:36:57,393 Speaker 2: It just sort of always works. So I'm looking at 825 00:36:57,474 --> 00:37:00,954 Speaker 2: three Maxi coats here. They're all sort of slightly different ones. 826 00:37:01,234 --> 00:37:04,314 Speaker 2: My first one is Kmart and they do a Maxi 827 00:37:04,514 --> 00:37:08,674 Speaker 2: barn jacket for forty five dollars. It's in sandstone color 828 00:37:08,994 --> 00:37:12,473 Speaker 2: and they've got this contrast check inside. 829 00:37:11,914 --> 00:37:15,034 Speaker 1: Of the coat for forty five dollars. So yeah, maxi 830 00:37:15,114 --> 00:37:15,674 Speaker 1: barn jacket. 831 00:37:15,714 --> 00:37:17,993 Speaker 2: We know barn jackets to be cropped, but this one 832 00:37:17,994 --> 00:37:19,594 Speaker 2: actually goes just below the knee. 833 00:37:19,674 --> 00:37:21,074 Speaker 1: Cool, it's different. 834 00:37:21,194 --> 00:37:24,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in this beautiful sandstone color. So very easy 835 00:37:24,474 --> 00:37:26,754 Speaker 2: to wear a pair of different things. Pros it's obviously 836 00:37:26,874 --> 00:37:32,114 Speaker 2: very affordable, neutral color. Cons it is polyester pros. 837 00:37:31,834 --> 00:37:37,393 Speaker 1: And cons so type A. I love that it's you're 838 00:37:37,434 --> 00:37:38,554 Speaker 1: an alisau. 839 00:37:38,954 --> 00:37:41,634 Speaker 2: If you're going to invest, do you invest in just 840 00:37:41,674 --> 00:37:43,873 Speaker 2: that one piece that'll get you through the entire Yeah, 841 00:37:44,194 --> 00:37:46,754 Speaker 2: and he's the warmth with polyester. It's just something to 842 00:37:46,754 --> 00:37:47,274 Speaker 2: think about. 843 00:37:47,674 --> 00:37:48,514 Speaker 1: Five dollars. 844 00:37:48,554 --> 00:37:51,473 Speaker 2: So on trend the barn jacket, it's incredible. So that's 845 00:37:51,474 --> 00:37:55,354 Speaker 2: from Kmart and Camart, Target. They all just do such 846 00:37:55,434 --> 00:37:57,554 Speaker 2: fantastic on trend pieces, like what you're saying. 847 00:37:57,554 --> 00:37:59,514 Speaker 3: They've got really good design teams working there at the 848 00:37:59,514 --> 00:38:00,714 Speaker 3: moment to shout out to them. 849 00:38:01,154 --> 00:38:02,474 Speaker 1: So that's my budget. 850 00:38:02,674 --> 00:38:05,873 Speaker 2: My mid range is also from assembly, like oh, we 851 00:38:05,994 --> 00:38:08,754 Speaker 2: are an Australian brand, So this one's two hundred and 852 00:38:08,754 --> 00:38:12,274 Speaker 2: eighty dollars. It's an ivy wool coat in like a 853 00:38:12,314 --> 00:38:15,634 Speaker 2: cacow mile so playing in those chocolate colors, which is 854 00:38:15,754 --> 00:38:19,473 Speaker 2: really nice, is beautiful. It's an updated version of one 855 00:38:19,474 --> 00:38:22,154 Speaker 2: of their best selling coats, the Sady Coat, but it's 856 00:38:22,194 --> 00:38:24,474 Speaker 2: slightly longer. So it's that maxi that I was talking 857 00:38:24,474 --> 00:38:26,913 Speaker 2: about to ads coverage because it can get so cold, 858 00:38:26,914 --> 00:38:30,234 Speaker 2: particularly where I'm from, it's just having that extra really 859 00:38:30,274 --> 00:38:34,314 Speaker 2: does help. And it has a lapel color that oversized 860 00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,674 Speaker 2: cool girl fit and it's one hundred percent wool. 861 00:38:36,834 --> 00:38:39,194 Speaker 1: Wow. So for two hundred and eighty dollars from assembly 862 00:38:39,274 --> 00:38:42,514 Speaker 1: label amazing chocolate, that's a good find. And then my 863 00:38:42,634 --> 00:38:47,873 Speaker 1: bougie is Emerson Studios, another Australian brand. It's Emerson Studios. 864 00:38:47,914 --> 00:38:50,354 Speaker 2: It was six hundred and twenty nine dollars down to 865 00:38:50,434 --> 00:38:53,234 Speaker 2: four hundred oh so they're a good induscount right and 866 00:38:53,274 --> 00:38:57,474 Speaker 2: they're independent based in Melbourne. It's a wool longline coat 867 00:38:57,634 --> 00:39:00,834 Speaker 2: again in this rich cacao color, so this chocolate color 868 00:39:00,834 --> 00:39:02,234 Speaker 2: which plays in the neutral space. 869 00:39:02,914 --> 00:39:04,834 Speaker 1: If you want something different for your coat, you. 870 00:39:04,874 --> 00:39:07,594 Speaker 2: Might have a gray coat already right, might have the 871 00:39:07,714 --> 00:39:09,834 Speaker 2: neutual trench, so it's just a different color to add 872 00:39:09,874 --> 00:39:10,314 Speaker 2: to your wall. 873 00:39:10,354 --> 00:39:12,754 Speaker 3: I love that chocolate brown is going strong because I've 874 00:39:12,794 --> 00:39:16,594 Speaker 3: heavily invested myself across my entire wardrobe. So now I 875 00:39:16,634 --> 00:39:18,154 Speaker 3: did an outer layer that'd. 876 00:39:17,914 --> 00:39:20,954 Speaker 1: Be so nice for tonal dressing. Yeah, Roun definitely. So 877 00:39:21,074 --> 00:39:22,634 Speaker 1: this one is a wool blend. 878 00:39:23,154 --> 00:39:26,034 Speaker 2: So despite being more expensive, I think it's got a 879 00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:29,114 Speaker 2: higher price point compared to the assembly label because of 880 00:39:29,154 --> 00:39:32,114 Speaker 2: the tailoring. So it's got some really lovely sleeve detailing, 881 00:39:33,034 --> 00:39:36,194 Speaker 2: front pockets and it features double row of front button. 882 00:39:36,274 --> 00:39:38,234 Speaker 1: So it's those little things that I guess. 883 00:39:38,674 --> 00:39:41,514 Speaker 2: Jack the price, they're elevating it, elevating it. Yeah, and 884 00:39:41,554 --> 00:39:44,474 Speaker 2: it definitely is a lot more elevated or more detailed 885 00:39:44,474 --> 00:39:46,914 Speaker 2: to it than the assembly label. But four hundred dollars 886 00:39:46,914 --> 00:39:49,034 Speaker 2: at the moment Emerson Studios, that's a. 887 00:39:48,954 --> 00:39:52,234 Speaker 3: Good that I would consider that for that design to 888 00:39:52,274 --> 00:39:54,553 Speaker 3: be a pretty reasonable price point, right. 889 00:39:54,714 --> 00:39:57,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, to think like all the Camilla remarks, they like 890 00:39:57,874 --> 00:40:00,913 Speaker 2: standard brands that we think about with the oversized Maxi coats, 891 00:40:00,954 --> 00:40:01,834 Speaker 2: they can get up to like. 892 00:40:01,874 --> 00:40:05,714 Speaker 3: Twelve hundred, yeah, two thousand dollars h Yeah. 893 00:40:05,114 --> 00:40:07,594 Speaker 1: So these are two other Australian brands look out for. 894 00:40:07,794 --> 00:40:09,594 Speaker 3: Well, that's all we have time for today. Thank you 895 00:40:09,634 --> 00:40:11,913 Speaker 3: for listening to Nothing to Wear. 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