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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live

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Speaker 1: for fashion.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that

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Speaker 3: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Tamara Holland,

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Speaker 3: I'm the fashion editor here at Mamma Mia.

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Speaker 4: And I'm listen to Picket, trend forecaster and content creator.

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Speaker 4: Each week we talk all things fashion, helping you decide

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Speaker 4: what is and isn't worth adding to your wardrobe. Tam,

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, did you see this? But you're

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Speaker 4: the one that literally slid into my dans and told

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Speaker 4: me about I saw it straight off the bat. We

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Speaker 4: have to start with H and M's fresh collaboration with

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Speaker 4: Wardrobe NYC.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is immediately iconic.

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Speaker 4: This is Wardrobe NYC is one of my favorite brands.

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Speaker 4: You know that question when I say if you could

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Speaker 4: have brand that makes up your entire wardrobe, mine would

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Speaker 4: be Wardrobe.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Do you own anything from the brand?

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Speaker 4: I bought two or three pieces from d Pop second hand.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you are right.

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Speaker 4: They are very expensive. But for those who don't know

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Speaker 4: too much about the brand. It was founded in twenty

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Speaker 4: seventeen by our fath editor and stylist Christine Centenera and

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Speaker 4: another Australian designer.

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Speaker 3: That's right, yes, And if you don't know, Christine is

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Speaker 3: of course the editor of Australian Vogue as well. She's

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Speaker 3: a very well connected stylist in a celebrity world.

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Speaker 2: And it almost emulated her style, didn't it, Like.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it did. It's sort of.

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Speaker 3: It was supposed to be centered around the capsule wardrobe

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Speaker 3: that really Christine herself was famous for wearing. I suppose

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Speaker 3: tailored blazer's great like black tailored pants, yes.

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Speaker 4: Stocktured skirts. One thing I loved about it Wardrobe NYC.

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Speaker 4: Essentially it was buying a whole wardrobe. That was the

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Speaker 4: idea of it, right, So there was maybe twelve to

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Speaker 4: fifteen pieces and you're essentially that whole wardrobe, say for

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Speaker 4: winter twenty seventeen, and each piece can be laid on,

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Speaker 1: Isn't that clever?

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Speaker 3: And they were sort of the first brand that I

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Speaker 3: can think of that engineered that concept for an entire wardrobe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like we were saying, it was expensive. I think

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Speaker 4: it was like about ten thousand dollars for that whole.

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Speaker 1: To order the whole thing. But then you've kind of

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Speaker 2: Hit, right, and that was the idea you bought your

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Speaker 4: I absolutely love. I was looking on their website last

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Speaker 4: night for this episode, and they don't do the whole

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Speaker 4: bind you, which is a shame.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting. All right, we've kind of buried the

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Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Have you seen that?

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Speaker 4: I've seen a little bit from the press release. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we don't know too much yet. So what we do

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Speaker 4: And like I said, I purchased some things from Wardrobe

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Speaker 4: NYC from Deepop. But have you also seen that Vinted

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Speaker 1: Did you see his little running shot? Bless his little starts.

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Speaker 1: He's running a lot at his show. The guy just

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Speaker 2: That's why he set up that stage so we can

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Speaker 4: at celebrities stylists. We're going to take a peek behind

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Speaker 1: Because I think often celebrities get too much credit.

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Speaker 3: Let's go behind every A list, red carpet look and

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Speaker 2: Who else is some of your favorites? Law Roach? We

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Speaker 4: PR team, Like you mentioned before with Sarah Pitch, a

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Speaker 4: stylist is one of the number one things I think

442
00:20:09,914 --> 00:20:12,154
Speaker 4: you should have from the get go, Like when Alex

443
00:20:12,234 --> 00:20:15,434
Speaker 4: was rising to fame, initially get a stylist on board.

444
00:20:15,434 --> 00:20:17,313
Speaker 4: But this was actually the first year Alex had a

445
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Speaker 4: stylist for Coachella.

446
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Speaker 2: She usually pulls her out fits together and yes she.

447
00:20:20,314 --> 00:20:22,834
Speaker 4: Is stylish and she looks fashionable, but this year it

448
00:20:22,914 --> 00:20:25,274
Speaker 4: was just completely stepped up to another level with Mimi.

449
00:20:25,794 --> 00:20:28,714
Speaker 4: Lots of the intricate details with the accessories, this little

450
00:20:28,794 --> 00:20:31,954
Speaker 4: leopard print bralette thing, with the denim shorts, and then

451
00:20:32,074 --> 00:20:35,114
Speaker 4: like the beating throughout the hair. It was the detail

452
00:20:35,194 --> 00:20:36,954
Speaker 4: within just a cool festival.

453
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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't stand out. She had bit she was

455
00:20:39,994 --> 00:20:45,834
Speaker 3: wearing bird footwear as well. She's an Australian brand. Yeah, yeah,

456
00:20:45,914 --> 00:20:46,314
Speaker 3: very cool.

457
00:20:46,874 --> 00:20:47,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

458
00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:48,434
Speaker 1: To that point.

459
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Speaker 3: Coachella obviously that's a festival, but I think we should

460
00:20:50,874 --> 00:20:53,274
Speaker 3: touch on how a lot of celebrities when you see

461
00:20:53,274 --> 00:20:55,794
Speaker 3: them out and about going to erawon and getting a

462
00:20:55,834 --> 00:20:58,434
Speaker 3: smoothie or like just popping out to take their dog

463
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Speaker 3: for a walkie. We assume pumping gas at the petrol station.

464
00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:04,194
Speaker 3: You assume that they've dressed themselves. And there's so much

465
00:21:04,314 --> 00:21:08,154
Speaker 3: media now, you know, and you see on fashion websites

466
00:21:08,194 --> 00:21:11,674
Speaker 3: and on Instagram and TikTok Kendell Jenna wearing this and

467
00:21:11,834 --> 00:21:14,394
Speaker 3: Kia Goerber wearing that, and we give them credit for

468
00:21:14,434 --> 00:21:16,353
Speaker 3: those looks. And sure, yes, a lot of the time

469
00:21:16,434 --> 00:21:18,634
Speaker 3: they might be styling themselves, or they might have had

470
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Speaker 3: whole collection shop at their.

471
00:21:20,274 --> 00:21:21,434
Speaker 2: Door, who knows how that works.

472
00:21:21,714 --> 00:21:24,754
Speaker 3: But a lot of the time the stylists are actually

473
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Speaker 3: putting those looks together for them just to go out

474
00:21:27,274 --> 00:21:30,594
Speaker 3: and get petrol. Like it is very manufactured. And one

475
00:21:30,634 --> 00:21:32,313
Speaker 3: of the women I want to shout out who I

476
00:21:32,474 --> 00:21:36,194
Speaker 3: absolutely adore and I haunt her Instagram like nothing else

477
00:21:36,554 --> 00:21:41,273
Speaker 3: is Danny Michelle. Danny Michelle is the woman behind Hayley

478
00:21:41,314 --> 00:21:45,754
Speaker 3: Bieber's casual style, not her red carpet style. That's someone

479
00:21:45,794 --> 00:21:46,994
Speaker 3: else who will touch on.

480
00:21:47,434 --> 00:21:48,314
Speaker 1: She takes care of.

481
00:21:48,274 --> 00:21:53,594
Speaker 3: Kendall Jenna, She's dressed Cameron Diaz, She's doing Daisy Edgar Jones,

482
00:21:53,594 --> 00:21:56,954
Speaker 3: who's that gorgeous British actress who is in where the

483
00:21:56,994 --> 00:21:59,234
Speaker 3: Crawdad's sing and she's got a bunch of other stuff

484
00:21:59,314 --> 00:22:05,914
Speaker 3: coming up. She specializes in that effortlessly cool, off duty

485
00:22:06,554 --> 00:22:09,634
Speaker 3: cool girls stuff like that's really her mo o. She's

486
00:22:09,794 --> 00:22:12,994
Speaker 3: la based, she's super connected. She's actually really good friends

487
00:22:12,994 --> 00:22:17,394
Speaker 3: with another iconic stylist, Pip Edwards, the Australian stylists, they

488
00:22:17,434 --> 00:22:20,274
Speaker 3: always get together. When talk about me having a parasocial

489
00:22:20,234 --> 00:22:24,553
Speaker 3: relations with the stylist, interesting, hit me up next time.

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Speaker 2: So I've got asked him, would you say? Then?

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Speaker 4: You know Kendall Jennifer Coachella, she had the back with

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Speaker 4: the black cat backwards a baseball cat.

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Speaker 1: Fat and that would have been Danny.

494
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Speaker 2: Do you reckon that's.

495
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Speaker 1: Danny one hundred percent?

496
00:22:36,794 --> 00:22:39,434
Speaker 4: Is funny how manufactured it is. And then the pap

497
00:22:39,474 --> 00:22:41,954
Speaker 4: shots ninety nine percent of the time it manufactured as well.

498
00:22:42,034 --> 00:22:44,154
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they call them up. Yeah, because if you've

499
00:22:44,194 --> 00:22:46,754
Speaker 3: worked on, if you work with your stylist on getting

500
00:22:46,794 --> 00:22:48,954
Speaker 3: this look together, you want to have the receipts right,

501
00:22:49,274 --> 00:22:49,793
Speaker 3: and a lot of.

502
00:22:49,954 --> 00:22:52,674
Speaker 4: Are on these retainers right. So to be with Danny

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Speaker 4: on this retainer.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting though that someone like I touched on before,

505
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Speaker 3: someone like a Haley Biber has a styles I only

506
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Speaker 3: recently just learned this myself. I actually was writing a

507
00:23:02,434 --> 00:23:05,634
Speaker 3: substack about Haley Baber's style when she was in Sydney.

508
00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:08,074
Speaker 3: I was just unpacking it a little bit, and I

509
00:23:08,074 --> 00:23:11,754
Speaker 3: didn't realize that Haley has a stylist for her casual

510
00:23:11,794 --> 00:23:14,793
Speaker 3: looks and she has a stylist for her red carpet looks.

511
00:23:15,154 --> 00:23:19,154
Speaker 3: So Danny Michelle takes care of her casual looks, and

512
00:23:19,154 --> 00:23:23,954
Speaker 3: Andrew Mukimol, who styles Margot Robbie rather iconically, does her

513
00:23:24,114 --> 00:23:24,794
Speaker 3: red carpet.

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00:23:24,914 --> 00:23:26,154
Speaker 1: I love that.

515
00:23:26,154 --> 00:23:28,674
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I love Andrew Mukamaal.

516
00:23:29,274 --> 00:23:31,794
Speaker 4: Like you mentioned the method dressing and what he did

517
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Speaker 4: with wathering heights.

518
00:23:33,074 --> 00:23:34,114
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

519
00:23:34,154 --> 00:23:36,594
Speaker 3: Should we talk about a couple of like stand out

520
00:23:37,034 --> 00:23:40,314
Speaker 3: styling moments that live on in the culture. I think

521
00:23:40,354 --> 00:23:41,954
Speaker 3: that has to be one of the big ones. And

522
00:23:42,274 --> 00:23:43,954
Speaker 3: Barbie and then there was wathering Heights.

523
00:23:44,034 --> 00:23:45,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting.

524
00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:47,754
Speaker 4: I've pictured him a lot more that sort of method

525
00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:50,914
Speaker 4: dressing and not so much just red carpet with Hailey Beaber.

526
00:23:50,954 --> 00:23:52,394
Speaker 4: I didn't know he dressed Hailey Beab.

527
00:23:52,394 --> 00:23:54,634
Speaker 3: No, I know that was an interesting one for me.

528
00:23:55,354 --> 00:23:59,674
Speaker 3: So talking about wathering Heights, Yeah, that was like for me.

529
00:24:00,194 --> 00:24:03,754
Speaker 3: I didn't know it could get better than Barbie. Like that,

530
00:24:04,274 --> 00:24:05,834
Speaker 3: just what they managed.

531
00:24:05,514 --> 00:24:06,074
Speaker 1: To do together.

532
00:24:06,154 --> 00:24:08,434
Speaker 3: Because the result of they did like a Tashi and

533
00:24:08,594 --> 00:24:12,994
Speaker 3: Coffee table book based on those looks, they really reset

534
00:24:13,154 --> 00:24:17,273
Speaker 3: the dial on celebrity dressing and started Andrew and Margo

535
00:24:17,394 --> 00:24:20,714
Speaker 3: started a whole new thing because I feel like before

536
00:24:20,914 --> 00:24:25,714
Speaker 3: the Barbie press tour, yes, some celebrities would kind of

537
00:24:25,754 --> 00:24:28,834
Speaker 3: throw subtly to the theme, you know, or where a color

538
00:24:28,874 --> 00:24:32,434
Speaker 3: inspired by the poster for the movie or something, But

539
00:24:32,474 --> 00:24:35,553
Speaker 3: there wasn't this idea really that I can recall of

540
00:24:35,634 --> 00:24:37,834
Speaker 3: dressing like the movie, do you know?

541
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Speaker 4: Andrew credits a lot to Margot as well, like she

542
00:24:40,674 --> 00:24:42,634
Speaker 4: was the one pushing to like what can we do

543
00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:45,914
Speaker 4: and like experimenting with Really She's like, I love these corsets.

544
00:24:45,994 --> 00:24:47,714
Speaker 4: Why not, Like let's lean into that.

545
00:24:47,994 --> 00:24:51,354
Speaker 3: So yeah, Wuthering Heights were so interesting because rather than

546
00:24:51,434 --> 00:24:55,034
Speaker 3: just doing like a textbook, let's take sort of Victoriana

547
00:24:55,514 --> 00:24:57,994
Speaker 3: themes and wear lots of bustles and do lots of

548
00:24:58,234 --> 00:25:02,194
Speaker 3: they really dug in deeper. They really took the chance

549
00:25:02,274 --> 00:25:05,794
Speaker 3: to shine the spotlight on some lesser known designers like

550
00:25:06,074 --> 00:25:09,554
Speaker 3: Delara findercog Glue, which like Charlie XCX had been wearing

551
00:25:09,594 --> 00:25:12,434
Speaker 3: a lot of Mark Gong was another one, some really

552
00:25:12,634 --> 00:25:15,994
Speaker 3: edgy new designers, and that's like, I just I was

553
00:25:16,034 --> 00:25:18,914
Speaker 3: really excited by it, the level of detail they went

554
00:25:18,954 --> 00:25:20,834
Speaker 3: to in some of the looks. I remember us maybe

555
00:25:20,874 --> 00:25:24,114
Speaker 3: we'd chatted about it on the pod. I definitely shared

556
00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:25,154
Speaker 3: my thoughts about it all.

557
00:25:25,074 --> 00:25:26,514
Speaker 1: Of the special media.

558
00:25:26,354 --> 00:25:28,434
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but you know they were getting like they

559
00:25:28,474 --> 00:25:33,034
Speaker 3: were throwing to like references about like Victorian hair art

560
00:25:33,474 --> 00:25:35,954
Speaker 3: and like weaving in you know, a piece of hair

561
00:25:36,114 --> 00:25:38,914
Speaker 3: art from like the Bronze era. You know, she was

562
00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:40,793
Speaker 3: wearing a bracelet made of hair, and it was just

563
00:25:40,834 --> 00:25:43,513
Speaker 3: like the detail they're going to with these looks and

564
00:25:43,514 --> 00:25:45,194
Speaker 3: the execution is incredible.

565
00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:48,754
Speaker 4: Actually, his background is in American history, so it makes

566
00:25:48,794 --> 00:25:51,833
Speaker 4: sense why he's so fascinated in this. Yeah, he actually

567
00:25:51,954 --> 00:25:56,914
Speaker 4: didn't study fashion. Do you remember Kelly Katrone People's Revolution in.

568
00:25:56,914 --> 00:25:58,314
Speaker 2: New York the PR Agency.

569
00:25:58,914 --> 00:26:00,954
Speaker 4: He walked into her office one day he was like

570
00:26:01,034 --> 00:26:04,793
Speaker 4: returning some looks or something from a shoot, and she

571
00:26:04,954 --> 00:26:06,354
Speaker 4: was like, you look incredible.

572
00:26:06,354 --> 00:26:09,114
Speaker 2: He was just covered in jewelry, accessories, glam.

573
00:26:09,594 --> 00:26:12,234
Speaker 4: I want you to be my assistant, And it's so funny,

574
00:26:12,314 --> 00:26:15,234
Speaker 4: like he just lived and breathed fashion himself.

575
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Speaker 1: That was the origin story.

576
00:26:17,114 --> 00:26:19,954
Speaker 2: Wow, I know, but American history, but it makes sense.

577
00:26:19,994 --> 00:26:22,514
Speaker 2: Why so passionate? Yeah, do you know who lives rent free?

578
00:26:22,554 --> 00:26:25,914
Speaker 2: In my head? Do you remember style by Mave? He

579
00:26:26,154 --> 00:26:29,834
Speaker 2: was like the big celebrity in twenty twenty one, twenty

580
00:26:29,874 --> 00:26:32,474
Speaker 2: twenty two, She's still a celebrity stylist.

581
00:26:32,754 --> 00:26:34,434
Speaker 1: She used to look after Hailey Bieber.

582
00:26:34,674 --> 00:26:35,314
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did.

583
00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:36,394
Speaker 1: She had a really.

584
00:26:36,194 --> 00:26:39,314
Speaker 3: Good partnership and then something happened, and something apparently happened

585
00:26:39,354 --> 00:26:40,434
Speaker 3: with Meghan Fox as well.

586
00:26:40,474 --> 00:26:44,754
Speaker 4: But that relationship with Megan Megan Fox was really interesting

587
00:26:44,794 --> 00:26:48,674
Speaker 4: to me because Meghan Fox sort of had her Transformers days.

588
00:26:48,834 --> 00:26:53,793
Speaker 4: And then when Underground started dating Machine Gun Kelly, and

589
00:26:53,874 --> 00:26:57,514
Speaker 4: her Instagram apparently grew from seventh million already a lot

590
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Speaker 4: seven million to twenty million within a matter of weeks

591
00:27:00,874 --> 00:27:02,234
Speaker 4: because of his because of his.

592
00:27:02,314 --> 00:27:03,794
Speaker 2: Status in his fan base.

593
00:27:03,954 --> 00:27:06,634
Speaker 4: Okay, So in that she's like, I need a stylist,

594
00:27:06,674 --> 00:27:07,914
Speaker 4: like I don't know how to dress.

595
00:27:07,954 --> 00:27:09,674
Speaker 2: There's perhaps outside of our house, like.

596
00:27:09,674 --> 00:27:11,674
Speaker 4: I need to look good, And so that's how she's

597
00:27:11,874 --> 00:27:16,554
Speaker 4: hired Styled by Mave and really like recreated her whole

598
00:27:16,594 --> 00:27:19,274
Speaker 4: look right. Remember she became a bit of a style icon.

599
00:27:19,474 --> 00:27:22,114
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a short time there, she was like doing

600
00:27:22,114 --> 00:27:23,194
Speaker 3: a lot of fashion style.

601
00:27:23,234 --> 00:27:24,314
Speaker 2: I'm really pushing down.

602
00:27:24,794 --> 00:27:28,594
Speaker 3: Another incredible celebrity and stylist relationship that I want to

603
00:27:28,634 --> 00:27:34,114
Speaker 3: mention is Olivia Dean, the singer and her stylist Simone Bayen.

604
00:27:34,794 --> 00:27:38,754
Speaker 3: I mean, talk about a stylist putting her celebrity's look

605
00:27:38,794 --> 00:27:42,594
Speaker 3: on the map. Obviously, all credit to Olivia for being

606
00:27:42,754 --> 00:27:47,914
Speaker 3: this gorgeous, shiny superstar, but I really think that Simone's

607
00:27:47,954 --> 00:27:51,394
Speaker 3: work in collaboration with Olivia has just made her a

608
00:27:51,554 --> 00:27:55,234
Speaker 3: style superstar as well. I mean, if you've been anywhere

609
00:27:55,274 --> 00:27:59,394
Speaker 3: near your social media feeds this past year, you can't

610
00:27:59,554 --> 00:28:04,794
Speaker 3: escape the sort of effect of Olivia's style, her stage presence,

611
00:28:04,834 --> 00:28:09,154
Speaker 3: and how her the fashion she's wearing. Compliments that it's

612
00:28:09,194 --> 00:28:14,554
Speaker 3: this real old Hollywood glamour. It's these beautiful, joyful expressions

613
00:28:14,594 --> 00:28:18,074
Speaker 3: of her music through what she's wearing, and these gorgeous

614
00:28:18,114 --> 00:28:22,434
Speaker 3: custom looks that are being created, their glittery, their form fitting,

615
00:28:22,594 --> 00:28:23,994
Speaker 3: they move with the music.

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00:28:24,234 --> 00:28:27,034
Speaker 1: It's colorful and radiant.

617
00:28:26,834 --> 00:28:28,434
Speaker 2: So authentically her, isn't it.

618
00:28:28,594 --> 00:28:28,754
Speaker 4: Yes?

619
00:28:28,834 --> 00:28:31,594
Speaker 2: Ye, Simone really nailed that brief didn't she She.

620
00:28:31,634 --> 00:28:33,914
Speaker 3: Did, but I think when you say authentically her, it's

621
00:28:33,994 --> 00:28:35,474
Speaker 3: kind of like we didn't know who she.

622
00:28:35,594 --> 00:28:37,154
Speaker 2: Was, you know, a year or two ago.

623
00:28:37,314 --> 00:28:39,754
Speaker 3: She had this catalog of music, but she was kind

624
00:28:39,754 --> 00:28:41,034
Speaker 3: of unfamiliar to us.

625
00:28:40,834 --> 00:28:41,594
Speaker 2: So true, and.

626
00:28:41,514 --> 00:28:44,394
Speaker 3: It's just the power of a stylist to help, you know,

627
00:28:44,554 --> 00:28:50,114
Speaker 3: define a visual identity for someone, right, especially when it

628
00:28:50,234 --> 00:28:53,314
Speaker 3: kind of seems like all the pop stars look a

629
00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:55,834
Speaker 3: little bit the same, we're sort of doing the same things.

630
00:28:56,154 --> 00:28:58,554
Speaker 3: And I also think in the wake of the big

631
00:28:58,674 --> 00:29:01,874
Speaker 3: Charlie XCX moment, like she had one has one look

632
00:29:02,114 --> 00:29:05,034
Speaker 3: that's so emblematic of her and so iconic to her.

633
00:29:05,754 --> 00:29:10,874
Speaker 3: Charlie's look is very like borderline goth grunge, kind of

634
00:29:10,994 --> 00:29:14,714
Speaker 3: clubby looks that really throw back to that Y two

635
00:29:14,794 --> 00:29:17,994
Speaker 3: K era, and I really think that's had like a

636
00:29:18,034 --> 00:29:20,794
Speaker 3: halo effect on the pop industry where a lot of

637
00:29:21,514 --> 00:29:22,514
Speaker 3: pop girlies are.

638
00:29:22,474 --> 00:29:23,754
Speaker 1: Kind of doing that look too.

639
00:29:23,914 --> 00:29:26,594
Speaker 2: Remember we spoke about was it the walk of shame trend?

640
00:29:26,794 --> 00:29:30,954
Speaker 3: Yes, it's very shame and she's influenced fashion in so

641
00:29:31,154 --> 00:29:33,914
Speaker 3: many ways. But I do think a lot of pop

642
00:29:33,914 --> 00:29:36,994
Speaker 3: stars and celebs started kind of dressing in that look

643
00:29:37,314 --> 00:29:40,514
Speaker 3: and then Olivia was like this big breath afresh, doing

644
00:29:40,514 --> 00:29:44,754
Speaker 3: something different, the power of clothing and storytelling. Right, yeah,

645
00:29:44,754 --> 00:29:47,274
Speaker 3: absolutely so, like Olivia, we love you.

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00:29:47,954 --> 00:29:48,954
Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing.

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00:29:49,834 --> 00:29:52,514
Speaker 4: Speaking of the custom for Olivia Dean, should we talk

648
00:29:52,554 --> 00:29:55,314
Speaker 4: about the process of styling and what goes into it?

649
00:29:55,434 --> 00:29:57,474
Speaker 1: Yes, because there's so much that goes into it.

650
00:29:57,594 --> 00:30:00,234
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the break, I have found the perfect date

651
00:30:00,354 --> 00:30:19,234
Speaker 4: night top for under fifty dollars. The process of being styled, like,

652
00:30:19,274 --> 00:30:22,354
Speaker 4: it really depends on the event, who's getting styled, what's

653
00:30:22,394 --> 00:30:25,114
Speaker 4: it for the brands involved? Right, both of us have

654
00:30:25,194 --> 00:30:28,314
Speaker 4: worked on editorial commercial shoots and that's where your studio

655
00:30:28,394 --> 00:30:33,594
Speaker 4: campaign or maybe e com collection where there's multiple shoots

656
00:30:33,594 --> 00:30:36,034
Speaker 4: that need to be shot on set or on location

657
00:30:36,194 --> 00:30:37,994
Speaker 4: in one day. But if we want to maybe focus

658
00:30:38,034 --> 00:30:40,994
Speaker 4: more on event based dressing and red carpet dressing.

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00:30:41,114 --> 00:30:43,074
Speaker 2: The more lead time the better.

660
00:30:43,554 --> 00:30:45,634
Speaker 4: But just getting an understanding of like how much time

661
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Speaker 4: do you really need and obviously more time is better

662
00:30:48,914 --> 00:30:51,314
Speaker 4: you're saying, of course you can really get into honing

663
00:30:51,354 --> 00:30:55,314
Speaker 4: out some mood boards, understanding what the vision of the

664
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Speaker 4: client is verse, like what can we create together, and

665
00:30:59,154 --> 00:31:02,154
Speaker 4: more time allows for custom dressing as well. When you

666
00:31:02,234 --> 00:31:07,314
Speaker 4: see celebrities in custom gowns or even Australian influences in custom,

667
00:31:07,554 --> 00:31:10,794
Speaker 4: it's just that lead time. So once you understand what

668
00:31:10,874 --> 00:31:13,794
Speaker 4: that client wants, you can start pulling some looks and

669
00:31:13,874 --> 00:31:17,154
Speaker 4: presenting those to the client for fittings. Now, depending on

670
00:31:17,194 --> 00:31:20,394
Speaker 4: the stylist would depend on how many different looks they present.

671
00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:23,754
Speaker 4: It was actually Danny Goldberg who mentioned she only likes

672
00:31:23,794 --> 00:31:26,434
Speaker 4: bringing two items or two looks.

673
00:31:26,154 --> 00:31:27,554
Speaker 2: To present to her celebrities.

674
00:31:28,114 --> 00:31:32,074
Speaker 3: Really to watch the methodology behind her, I thought, is

675
00:31:32,234 --> 00:31:34,554
Speaker 3: this is my job as their stylists.

676
00:31:34,554 --> 00:31:35,874
Speaker 2: They've got so much going on.

677
00:31:36,234 --> 00:31:38,834
Speaker 4: I do all the background work figuring out what is

678
00:31:38,954 --> 00:31:42,114
Speaker 4: best for that say met Gala or whatnot. I present

679
00:31:42,194 --> 00:31:44,674
Speaker 4: the two and nine times out of ten that works

680
00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:46,914
Speaker 4: and they pick one of them. Sometimes they go back

681
00:31:46,954 --> 00:31:49,594
Speaker 4: to the drawing board. But that's just you know, reducing

682
00:31:49,634 --> 00:31:51,514
Speaker 4: I guess decision fatiag and the.

683
00:31:51,474 --> 00:31:55,074
Speaker 3: Client confidence of that being like, I've brought you two options,

684
00:31:55,154 --> 00:31:56,034
Speaker 3: you choose one.

685
00:31:56,114 --> 00:31:59,274
Speaker 4: So yeah, Danniel Danny Goldberg who were talking about before

686
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Speaker 4: how she dresses Alexa.

687
00:32:00,914 --> 00:32:03,994
Speaker 1: Chung io A debris gret aale.

688
00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:06,234
Speaker 2: Greta, lie Zoe Cravis.

689
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Speaker 4: So yeah, big names, but to picture her in a

690
00:32:09,194 --> 00:32:12,074
Speaker 4: fitting room only presenting two options is wild, right, Yeah,

691
00:32:12,114 --> 00:32:15,194
Speaker 4: that is so confident in terms of say a Alex

692
00:32:15,234 --> 00:32:19,034
Speaker 4: Earl or any of our Australian influences getting dressed for events.

693
00:32:19,114 --> 00:32:21,674
Speaker 4: We do have an inside source that we just verified

694
00:32:21,674 --> 00:32:24,194
Speaker 4: this with in terms of how much it does cost.

695
00:32:24,674 --> 00:32:26,994
Speaker 4: And a lot of the time they are paying for it,

696
00:32:27,074 --> 00:32:29,634
Speaker 4: mind you, like they do the odd job where yes

697
00:32:29,714 --> 00:32:32,194
Speaker 4: it's in their favor to style say a Temi hembro,

698
00:32:32,634 --> 00:32:34,914
Speaker 4: and it's a collaboration where they're not paying for it

699
00:32:34,914 --> 00:32:37,274
Speaker 4: because it gives them that exposure and platform. But nine

700
00:32:37,274 --> 00:32:40,074
Speaker 4: times out of ten, like you mentioned, the returns, styling

701
00:32:40,234 --> 00:32:43,274
Speaker 4: is a big job. There's a lot of grunt work,

702
00:32:43,314 --> 00:32:45,834
Speaker 4: but it can start anywhere between say two and a

703
00:32:45,834 --> 00:32:48,594
Speaker 4: half grand up to ten ground, depending on the event.

704
00:32:48,674 --> 00:32:51,754
Speaker 4: Is it the logis you know, is it the brownlow?

705
00:32:52,234 --> 00:32:54,354
Speaker 4: Is it glamour on the grid. So just say that

706
00:32:54,434 --> 00:32:57,074
Speaker 4: starting entry points around the two and a half. You know,

707
00:32:57,154 --> 00:32:59,074
Speaker 4: you might get maybe a mate'es rate, but two and

708
00:32:59,074 --> 00:33:02,074
Speaker 4: a half is to get that full head to toe look,

709
00:33:02,474 --> 00:33:05,234
Speaker 4: you know, is it the millinery, if it's the races,

710
00:33:05,434 --> 00:33:08,074
Speaker 4: is it the dress, the jewelry, the shoes and like

711
00:33:08,114 --> 00:33:10,634
Speaker 4: you mentioned, you don't get to keep it, but you

712
00:33:10,754 --> 00:33:11,714
Speaker 4: might be wearing.

713
00:33:11,474 --> 00:33:12,794
Speaker 2: A five thousand dollar dress.

714
00:33:13,634 --> 00:33:17,034
Speaker 1: There you go, is it worth it? Let you decide.

715
00:33:17,634 --> 00:33:20,834
Speaker 3: Let's talk about if you you know, because styling seems

716
00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:25,234
Speaker 3: like something that's just for celebrities. Actually it's more accessible

717
00:33:25,474 --> 00:33:28,394
Speaker 3: than ever. I mean, I know, when I'm scrolling on

718
00:33:28,434 --> 00:33:33,154
Speaker 3: Instagram every other day, I'm coming across these amazing stylists

719
00:33:33,194 --> 00:33:36,954
Speaker 3: working here in Australia that are offering services to everyday people,

720
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Speaker 3: busy mums, you know, who just want some help shopping

721
00:33:41,474 --> 00:33:44,594
Speaker 3: or you know, helping to curate their wardrobes or clear

722
00:33:44,634 --> 00:33:48,954
Speaker 3: out their wardrobes. There's really great affordable services out there,

723
00:33:48,954 --> 00:33:50,874
Speaker 3: and I just thought it'd be great to go through

724
00:33:50,874 --> 00:33:51,754
Speaker 3: some of those people.

725
00:33:51,954 --> 00:33:54,074
Speaker 4: That's such a good idea because like you said, it

726
00:33:54,114 --> 00:33:55,794
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be a red carpet. It could be

727
00:33:55,794 --> 00:33:58,594
Speaker 4: maybe you've got a fortieth or fiftieth coming up. Is

728
00:33:58,634 --> 00:34:00,634
Speaker 4: it a wedding and you just want someone to.

729
00:34:00,594 --> 00:34:01,674
Speaker 2: Help curate that. Look.

730
00:34:01,834 --> 00:34:04,954
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've not a few content creators that do this actually,

731
00:34:05,114 --> 00:34:07,994
Speaker 4: so they look really well put together, or say a

732
00:34:08,114 --> 00:34:10,594
Speaker 4: lunch or something, and it's been pulled together by someone

733
00:34:10,674 --> 00:34:11,794
Speaker 4: like a style by Bloom.

734
00:34:11,794 --> 00:34:12,714
Speaker 2: So I've spoken about him.

735
00:34:12,754 --> 00:34:16,354
Speaker 4: I definitely recommend Paul Versaci, but his handle is styled

736
00:34:16,394 --> 00:34:19,553
Speaker 4: by Bloom. If you have got something coming up, dm him.

737
00:34:19,674 --> 00:34:21,554
Speaker 4: He's a great example of someone that you could get

738
00:34:21,554 --> 00:34:22,074
Speaker 4: styled by.

739
00:34:22,154 --> 00:34:22,554
Speaker 1: There you go.

740
00:34:22,834 --> 00:34:24,754
Speaker 3: A few friends of the pod that we've even had

741
00:34:24,794 --> 00:34:27,954
Speaker 3: on this podcast. Grace Lamb, who hosts she's one of

742
00:34:27,954 --> 00:34:30,114
Speaker 3: the hosts of Unleash. She has styling services.

743
00:34:30,114 --> 00:34:31,074
Speaker 1: She's amazing.

744
00:34:31,154 --> 00:34:35,394
Speaker 3: I would love to be styled by Grace. Donnie Galella's iconic.

745
00:34:36,154 --> 00:34:37,953
Speaker 3: He's a celebrity styling it really is.

746
00:34:38,034 --> 00:34:40,314
Speaker 2: He style Drew Barrymore before he is.

747
00:34:40,594 --> 00:34:43,794
Speaker 3: That's incredible. So Drew Barrymore and you if you're listening.

748
00:34:43,874 --> 00:34:47,274
Speaker 4: Maybe he also offers a shopping experience. I think it's

749
00:34:47,274 --> 00:34:49,594
Speaker 4: around seven hundred and fifty dollars. You get three hours

750
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Speaker 4: shopping with him. So if you just be guidance in shopping,

751
00:34:52,274 --> 00:34:54,114
Speaker 4: that's a really good question. So cool.

752
00:34:54,274 --> 00:34:54,794
Speaker 1: Who else?

753
00:34:54,954 --> 00:34:57,034
Speaker 3: Haley Cooper We've had on the show a few times.

754
00:34:57,074 --> 00:34:58,354
Speaker 3: She has a styling service.

755
00:34:58,634 --> 00:35:02,314
Speaker 1: The beautiful Amelia Morris Lovely who writes for our site

756
00:35:02,314 --> 00:35:05,874
Speaker 1: for mammameir all the time you interviewed Tina visa Kara

757
00:35:05,874 --> 00:35:07,794
Speaker 1: before she it's amazing.

758
00:35:07,994 --> 00:35:10,513
Speaker 2: That can help as well with just that wardrobe clear out.

759
00:35:10,754 --> 00:35:12,554
Speaker 4: But if you're listening to these and thinking, oh, but

760
00:35:12,594 --> 00:35:15,474
Speaker 4: you know, it is still money and it's still expensive.

761
00:35:15,714 --> 00:35:18,794
Speaker 4: David Jones has the free styling service, so you get

762
00:35:18,834 --> 00:35:20,873
Speaker 4: three hours complimentary fit free.

763
00:35:20,954 --> 00:35:23,553
Speaker 2: That's free, three hours freeh my.

764
00:35:23,434 --> 00:35:25,594
Speaker 3: God, Cause do you remember, like when top Shop was

765
00:35:25,634 --> 00:35:28,074
Speaker 3: here in Australia used to be able to go in

766
00:35:28,074 --> 00:35:29,913
Speaker 3: and do a styling. So it's kind of like a

767
00:35:29,954 --> 00:35:32,274
Speaker 3: lost art it is, but I love that. David Jones

768
00:35:32,314 --> 00:35:33,274
Speaker 3: still often and if you go.

769
00:35:33,234 --> 00:35:35,154
Speaker 4: To their website, they've got a list of maybe ten

770
00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:36,514
Speaker 4: or fifteen to choose.

771
00:35:36,234 --> 00:35:39,074
Speaker 1: From what do you mean ten or fifteen one stylists?

772
00:35:39,114 --> 00:35:41,473
Speaker 4: So depending on your law or what they specialize in,

773
00:35:41,554 --> 00:35:43,394
Speaker 4: denim or whatnot, it's perfect.

774
00:35:43,514 --> 00:35:46,874
Speaker 1: That is very cool. Do you want to do that as.

775
00:35:46,754 --> 00:35:49,033
Speaker 2: A gift for someone? I was thinking a mother in law?

776
00:35:49,154 --> 00:35:51,034
Speaker 2: You know how they get so stressed and flustered for

777
00:35:51,074 --> 00:35:51,474
Speaker 2: a wedding.

778
00:35:51,594 --> 00:35:53,473
Speaker 4: Imagine just like maybe it's two and a half ground

779
00:35:53,474 --> 00:35:54,594
Speaker 4: to get a stylist to.

780
00:35:54,594 --> 00:35:55,594
Speaker 1: Be the mother in law.

781
00:35:55,714 --> 00:35:58,393
Speaker 3: Boom, what if it's your future mother in law? Takes

782
00:35:58,434 --> 00:36:00,594
Speaker 3: some stress away from yourself, make.

783
00:36:00,554 --> 00:36:02,714
Speaker 1: Your life easier. I love it.

784
00:36:03,194 --> 00:36:06,433
Speaker 3: There's the gorgeous Sam Preston. Kim Crowley is another one

785
00:36:06,434 --> 00:36:08,554
Speaker 3: that comes to mind. We have interviewed so many of

786
00:36:08,594 --> 00:36:10,873
Speaker 3: the stylists on the pod. Some of them even write

787
00:36:10,874 --> 00:36:13,873
Speaker 3: for the website. So yeah, go back through our archives.

788
00:36:14,234 --> 00:36:16,834
Speaker 3: You can listen to the interviews and check them out there,

789
00:36:16,874 --> 00:36:18,434
Speaker 3: and yeah, send them a message.

790
00:36:18,754 --> 00:36:23,674
Speaker 1: Sure, they'd love to work with you. It's very expensive.

791
00:36:24,514 --> 00:36:26,354
Speaker 2: How wondred these five percent?

792
00:36:27,354 --> 00:36:29,714
Speaker 4: So now we have Bougie to budget where we both

793
00:36:29,794 --> 00:36:33,394
Speaker 4: ring one item to the table with three price ranging options.

794
00:36:33,514 --> 00:36:35,393
Speaker 4: At the top of the episode, Tam, you mentioned you

795
00:36:35,434 --> 00:36:37,354
Speaker 4: found some amazing satin shoes.

796
00:36:37,434 --> 00:36:38,594
Speaker 2: Can you tell me about those?

797
00:36:38,714 --> 00:36:40,474
Speaker 3: This is all I can think about right now. I

798
00:36:40,514 --> 00:36:43,194
Speaker 3: want to be Mary Kate Olson. Yeah, satin flats, So

799
00:36:43,234 --> 00:36:46,034
Speaker 3: I've been looking for some. I have found the best

800
00:36:46,074 --> 00:36:49,594
Speaker 3: budget pair. They're from m Ands, Marks and Spencer. They

801
00:36:49,634 --> 00:36:52,634
Speaker 3: are the Satin flat ballet Pumps. They're fifty four dollars.

802
00:36:52,874 --> 00:36:56,674
Speaker 3: These are like a traditional soft satin ballet slipper. I

803
00:36:56,714 --> 00:36:58,794
Speaker 3: would say you can wear outside though. They've got a

804
00:36:58,794 --> 00:37:01,514
Speaker 3: little bow at the toe and they're roofed around the

805
00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:04,794
Speaker 3: foot and They're in this gorgeous burnt orange color, so

806
00:37:04,834 --> 00:37:08,873
Speaker 3: they look really expensive. Love about fifty bucks. My mid

807
00:37:08,994 --> 00:37:11,274
Speaker 3: range is from a brand I wasn't across yet. I

808
00:37:11,514 --> 00:37:14,994
Speaker 3: found them in my searching. It's called Lily Silk and

809
00:37:14,994 --> 00:37:18,714
Speaker 3: they do beautiful silk accessories. These are the Serena Silk

810
00:37:18,794 --> 00:37:22,074
Speaker 3: leather loafers and they're two hundred and six dollars. They

811
00:37:22,154 --> 00:37:26,554
Speaker 3: are such beautiful silk loafers. I'd never seen this style

812
00:37:26,594 --> 00:37:27,394
Speaker 3: of shoe before.

813
00:37:27,794 --> 00:37:28,033
Speaker 2: Yeah.

814
00:37:28,034 --> 00:37:30,714
Speaker 3: So they're black silk, but they have like a little

815
00:37:30,794 --> 00:37:33,954
Speaker 3: leather panel at the back that you can fold down

816
00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:35,234
Speaker 3: to turn it into a mule.

817
00:37:35,474 --> 00:37:37,993
Speaker 1: I've seen these, So you get two shoes in one.

818
00:37:38,554 --> 00:37:39,274
Speaker 2: How cool is that?

819
00:37:39,314 --> 00:37:41,393
Speaker 3: So these are probably the ones that I'll buy. They're

820
00:37:41,434 --> 00:37:43,754
Speaker 3: two hundred and six dollars, which is I think quite

821
00:37:43,914 --> 00:37:47,554
Speaker 3: good for great quality silk and leather. And then for

822
00:37:47,634 --> 00:37:50,314
Speaker 3: my bougie I've gone to one of my favorite accessory

823
00:37:50,354 --> 00:37:53,954
Speaker 3: labels in the world, loaf Larandal. I wore Loaflorandal for

824
00:37:54,034 --> 00:37:56,554
Speaker 3: my wedding shoes. This is a little yeah, so I

825
00:37:56,754 --> 00:38:00,794
Speaker 3: love their shoes. These are their emery satin Bally with anklet.

826
00:38:00,834 --> 00:38:03,034
Speaker 3: They're five hundred and sixty five dollars, so they're an

827
00:38:03,034 --> 00:38:06,874
Speaker 3: investment piece. These are a chocolate brown sort of slip

828
00:38:06,874 --> 00:38:09,594
Speaker 3: on flat. They've still got a bit of structure and

829
00:38:09,634 --> 00:38:13,794
Speaker 3: they have this gorgeous like delicate crystal anklet attached. It

830
00:38:13,914 --> 00:38:15,873
Speaker 3: is detachable though, so you can take it off and

831
00:38:15,914 --> 00:38:17,754
Speaker 3: just wear the flats as they are. It's like a

832
00:38:17,794 --> 00:38:21,994
Speaker 3: little tennis bracelet but for your ankor it's a jewelry

833
00:38:21,994 --> 00:38:22,714
Speaker 3: for your feet.

834
00:38:23,194 --> 00:38:24,554
Speaker 2: That's perfect. I love that.

835
00:38:24,594 --> 00:38:27,714
Speaker 4: And five hundred and sixty five okay, yeah, well mine

836
00:38:27,754 --> 00:38:32,594
Speaker 4: this week was a lace camasole top. Like beautiful, elegant, romantic,

837
00:38:32,994 --> 00:38:35,194
Speaker 4: perfect for a date night. I'm just in the market

838
00:38:35,194 --> 00:38:37,154
Speaker 4: for one myself, so they're sort of top of mind,

839
00:38:37,634 --> 00:38:40,234
Speaker 4: and of course you can lay it with winter as well,

840
00:38:40,274 --> 00:38:42,674
Speaker 4: but then can take you through to the spring summer months.

841
00:38:42,874 --> 00:38:44,274
Speaker 4: So my first one, I'll.

842
00:38:44,114 --> 00:38:45,714
Speaker 2: Start with budget.

843
00:38:46,674 --> 00:38:50,354
Speaker 4: It is forty one ninety nine from the Iconic with

844
00:38:50,394 --> 00:38:51,194
Speaker 4: the brand Daisy.

845
00:38:51,514 --> 00:38:53,434
Speaker 2: Forty one dollars for a beautiful lace.

846
00:38:53,834 --> 00:38:56,074
Speaker 4: It is polyester, but that sort of look of a

847
00:38:56,154 --> 00:39:00,913
Speaker 4: lace black cami top. It's got an asymmetric hemline and

848
00:39:00,914 --> 00:39:03,913
Speaker 4: they've just paired it really nicely with white jeans on

849
00:39:03,954 --> 00:39:06,314
Speaker 4: the website, so just like a nice casual look.

850
00:39:06,554 --> 00:39:07,433
Speaker 1: I could see that on you.

851
00:39:08,074 --> 00:39:09,874
Speaker 2: My mid range is actually my favorite.

852
00:39:09,874 --> 00:39:13,754
Speaker 4: It's from Zara and it's this really cool lace slash

853
00:39:13,954 --> 00:39:18,274
Speaker 4: embroidered loose swinging cami top with the thin straps, and

854
00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:21,474
Speaker 4: it's sort of been like a moss neutral color, so

855
00:39:21,594 --> 00:39:22,594
Speaker 4: it's really unusual.

856
00:39:22,674 --> 00:39:24,714
Speaker 2: It's giving me Isabelle Moron Vine.

857
00:39:24,714 --> 00:39:26,873
Speaker 1: It sounds very Isabelle. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

858
00:39:27,154 --> 00:39:29,794
Speaker 2: And that one's one hundred and nineteen dollars, okay, yeah.

859
00:39:30,554 --> 00:39:34,674
Speaker 4: And then my bougie is from Faithful on Netta Porte,

860
00:39:34,834 --> 00:39:37,194
Speaker 4: So Faithful, the brand being an Australian brand.

861
00:39:37,234 --> 00:39:39,634
Speaker 2: It's in this beautiful butter yellow.

862
00:39:39,674 --> 00:39:42,434
Speaker 4: It's really quite light though, like it almost looks cream,

863
00:39:42,674 --> 00:39:44,873
Speaker 4: and it has matching pants as well. It's got a

864
00:39:44,954 --> 00:39:48,033
Speaker 4: straight lace across the top, elevated look. You could wear

865
00:39:48,074 --> 00:39:50,473
Speaker 4: this out, like pair it back with jeans or wear

866
00:39:50,514 --> 00:39:52,234
Speaker 4: this whole lookout was Shoes.

867
00:39:52,034 --> 00:39:53,074
Speaker 2: So Australian brand.

868
00:39:53,114 --> 00:39:55,114
Speaker 4: The price of that one's one hundred and ninety dollars

869
00:39:55,634 --> 00:39:57,834
Speaker 4: and it has those matching pants as an option, but

870
00:39:57,874 --> 00:39:58,873
Speaker 4: go check those ones out.

871
00:39:59,194 --> 00:39:59,674
Speaker 2: Love it.

872
00:40:00,034 --> 00:40:03,034
Speaker 4: So if you want all the links mentioned in today's episode,

873
00:40:03,034 --> 00:40:05,674
Speaker 4: they will be at the bottom of today's show notes,

874
00:40:05,714 --> 00:40:08,674
Speaker 4: so go check them out. It's also worth mentioning guys

875
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Speaker 4: that we have an amazing Nothing to Wear newsletter. It

876
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Speaker 4: lands in your inbox every single week and it's free.

877
00:40:15,234 --> 00:40:19,314
Speaker 4: It's full of recommendations, styling advice, insights, and just some

878
00:40:19,434 --> 00:40:22,274
Speaker 4: critical thinking around fashion. And the one and only Tamara

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Speaker 1: You next week.

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Speaker 2: See see guys.

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Speaker 3: Baye Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land

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Speaker 3: on which we have recorded this podcast.