1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: There is a lid for every pot, and so what 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: we think is on trend for one person is not 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: necessarily on trend for another. It's not necessarily always about winning. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: It's about just knowing that I've put my absolute best 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: into it and that I've given my all. And sometimes 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: you have to look for the signs and accept that, Okay, 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: it's not what you want it to be, but maybe 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: it's going to take you somewhere where you didn't expect 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: to go. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to the seas. The Yay Podcast, Busy and happy 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: one way. So this is a platform to hear and 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: explore the stories of those who found lives. 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: They adore the. 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: Good, bad and ugly. 18 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: The best and worst day will bear all the facets 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: of seizing your yay. I'm Sarah Davidson or a spoonful 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: of Sarah, a lawyer turned entrepreneur who's wapped the suits 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: and heels to co found Matchamade and matcha Milkbar. 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: Cza is a series. 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: Of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: Lovely Neighborhood. 26 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: We're back into our regular recording schedule and I'm so 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: pumped to have an epic guest for our first episode back. 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: I had the privilege of sitting down with Deleene Lewis, 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: a real estate mogul and star of lux Listings Sydney. 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Many of you have probably already binged the first two 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: seasons of this incredible show, giving you a behind the 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: scenes look at the ins and outs of one of 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: the most cutthroat real estate markets in the world and 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: some seriously insane properties. And today we are celebrating the 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: release of season three, which is now available from today 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: September thirtieth on Prime Video. Delane is a powerhouse in 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: so many ways. Not only is she widely considered one 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: of Australia's leading real estate agents with thirty years of 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: experience under her belt, she was also a single, working 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: mother of two at the time time of recording, and 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: in the week since we recorded, has become a mother 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: of three. At get this fifty years old. But in 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: what you know is my favorite kind of Parthia. She 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: never expected to become a mother of three, a celebrity 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: real estate agent or a TV show star. In fact, 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: she spent her earlier years in Johannesburg before moving to 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: Blacktown in Sydney, and had never even heard of Double Bay, 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: where she is now based for her work until she 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: applied for a PA job she saw in the newspaper 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: with Lange and Simmons as a twenty year old. Now 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: she is a part owner and on the board of 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: that very same real estate agency and absolutely tearing it 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: up in the real estate market on our screens. I'll 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: let Delane tell you the rest herself, but what an 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: incredible pathier from Blacktown to Bondai and beyond. Don't forget 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: to tune into Lux Listing Sydney Season three from today 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: on Prime Video. The link is in the show notes. 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: Delene, Welcome to CZA. 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah. Nice to be here. 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: Oh it's such a pleasure. 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: I have been watching the show like, just consuming it 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: incessantly and I'm so excited to be sitting here with 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: you to get to pick your brain the best in 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: the business. Thank you so much for making times. 65 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: That's a pleasure. That's a pleasure. 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: As you may or may not know before we kick off. 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: I love to start firstly with everyone's story and all 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: the dots that connect in their life before the chapter 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: that we walk in on. But I think one of 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: the most exciting parts of this show is the opportunity 71 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: to just ask what the most relatable and normal thing 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: about you is, and particularly as someone who I mean, 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: you've literally just walked in from a sixty million dollar listing, 74 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: you're on television, you're at the height of what looks 75 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: glamorous and polished on the outside. I'm sure there's so 76 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: much that's just normal and relatable about you that we 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: can easily forget. So what's something really normal? 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Okay? So something obviously because I've got the two kids, 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: it's I sound bull for comfort, not for speed. You know, 80 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: people go, o, what do you wearing? I wear what 81 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: I need to do to get the kids to school 82 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: in the morning, put them up from school in the afternoon, 83 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: take them to the park in the afternoon, and still 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: look kind of professional at work. And I think the 85 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: most relatable thing about me is I actually like to 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: take the mickey out of myself. I love having a 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: good laugh. I've got a really dirty sense of humor. 88 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: I guess it's being brought up doing the real estate. 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Well with all boys, you know, so you kind of 90 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: learn to sink or swim. But I have a terrible 91 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: taste in jokes, an awful sense of humor, and it 92 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: really put him out. 93 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: Sorry, God, I love that so. 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Well. 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: You've got to keep up in the boys club. So 96 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: you could wear the heels, Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh, 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: and you mentioned I mean, you're already a mum. 98 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: But you've got you're literally about pretty much about to 99 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: give birth to the third Is that right? 100 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: About to hop in a minute. 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're still at work and you're still smashing it. 102 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: I don't know how you fit it all in. Honestly, 103 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: I also have. 104 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: Comfort, not speed. 105 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm flocking around the office zippers. So but when i'm 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: out it it helps us kind of like my armor 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: as well. It makes me forget that I'm pregnant. So 108 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: when I'm in work, I'm at work, I'm in my heels. 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: When I go home, all my jewelry comes off, my 110 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: hair goes up. I'm in mum mode, you know. And 111 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: I get I have said this before. I forget when 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm at work that I'm pregnant because you're on the phone, 113 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: you're making calls, you're going to show properties. Thank god, 114 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: I've had a healthy pregnancy. But when I'm at home, 115 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of like my haven. So that's kind of 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: when I let it all hang out and I just meet, 117 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So and I'm a mum 118 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: to my girls, and everything else kind of gets left behind. 119 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: And then when I put them to sleep, I'm back 120 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: to work mode again. So from nine to eleven or 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock then I'm just kicking back into work mode 122 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: because that's when you know, like last Sunday night, not 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: this punk Sunday past one before I put the kids 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: to sleep, and then I went to Point Park in 125 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: exchange a thirty million dollar deal, and I was there 126 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: with them till eleven thirty, and I said to them, 127 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: be warned. My hair's up, I'm in my trackid acts, 128 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking pretty scary. But guess what I've got a 129 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: contract for you. 130 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm probably very reassuring for all our 131 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: listeners that the armor does come down every now and then, 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: that you do switch between modes and it's not always 133 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: the polished, beautiful DeLine we see all the time. 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Oh it's pretty, but it's real, you know. And I 135 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: think that's the thing that my clients love about dealing 136 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: with me, is that it's not this whole ego based thing. 137 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm here doing work and you, as my clients, 138 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: are the people that have made me over thirty years. 139 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: And I respect that and I honor that, and I 140 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: don't want to be the conversation. I work to be 141 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the conversation, and I really strive for that, you know. 142 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: I want people to say, oh, my gosh, she works 143 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: so harsh amazing, not oh god, did you see what 144 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: she was wearing today? Do you know what I mean? 145 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: Like that should never be the conversation, I think, and 146 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: as women, you have to be aware of what you portray. 147 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm wearing low cup tops or short skirts. That's going 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: to take away from the conversation about my excellent work 149 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: or my brain or whatever. And I say to my girls, 150 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: it's just you don't want what you're wearing to be 151 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: the conversation. You want it to be about your work. 152 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: And that's whereas women we have to think about that. 153 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: We have to think about your career and babies. Men 154 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: don't have to think about that, they just go, you 155 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: know whatever, They have babies until they're ninety. We have 156 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: to think about things that boys do not have to 157 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: think about, and so you know, you have to run 158 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: three times. It's hard to be taken just as seriously, 159 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: but sometimes just to give them the shits now, just 160 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: I use it as my driver. Use it as my driver, 161 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, that's fine, because when you do 162 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: get to have your results, you know how much work 163 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: has gone into that. So rather getting bitted and twisted 164 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: about it, you just use it as positive fuel to 165 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: drive you further fast or longer. And the results are 166 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: so much more exciting when you get them because you 167 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: know how much it's taken you personally to get there. 168 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a bit easier. 169 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: But you know, that's something I love about your journey 170 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: so much, is that it has been I mean, you're 171 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: an incredible role model for women working in a very 172 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: male dominated environment. It's funny you were, you know, talking 173 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: about men having babies until they're ninety. I actually don't 174 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: doubt that you would probably be, of all women, the 175 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: one who's able to do that too, because you're about 176 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: to have your third baby at fifty which is in 177 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: itself quite a miracle. 178 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: But you really have. 179 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: Been defying the odds since the beginning of your career. 180 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: And I think it would be very easy to watch 181 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: lux Listing Sydney and see you closing these deals and 182 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: think she was born into real estate or she already was, 183 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: you know, networking in these circles. But I love how 184 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: you refer to yourself. You've gone from Blacktown to Bondie. 185 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: You grew up in Joeburr. It wasn't a smooth pathway 186 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: and it never is. So the first section of the 187 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: show is always the pathway from childhood to show that 188 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: you know, very few people have the pathway you expect, 189 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: and most of the time it's not an easy, straightforward, 190 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: you know, direction to get there. So can you take 191 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: us back to young you, to your childhood and how 192 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: you really have paved the way with just incredible hard 193 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: work and sheer determination to get here. 194 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's funny because I never looked at where 195 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: I was and said one day I'm going to live 196 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: here or one day I'm going to own this. That 197 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: was never my aspiration. Because you're born like we were 198 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: born in an apartheid driven South Africa, where we were 199 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: labeled by the color of our skin, and your education 200 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: was based on the color of your skin. Like my 201 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: dad wanted to be a doctor and he was allowed 202 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: to because he was a dark human being. And he 203 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: said to me, the reason they wanted us to leave 204 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: South Africa was he didn't want us to be color conscious. 205 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: He didn't want us to look at someone and say 206 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: they're black, they're white, whatever. You wanted us to look 207 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: at people and say they're kind or Okay, she's got long, 208 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: straight hair, rather than the color of her skin. And 209 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, and I teach my kids we're all the 210 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: same color inside, you know. And it is so important 211 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: because he wanted us to be able to reach for 212 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: the stars or not whatever. But that is our choice 213 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: based on what's inside of us, rather than the color 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: of asking. And I think that's a really important thing 215 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: that he has driven into me. It is not what's 216 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: on the outside that counts. It's what's on the inside 217 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: that matters. And that has been my thing. That's I 218 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: think what's made me successful in real estate is that 219 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't judge. I don't care what you're wearing, I 220 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: don't care where you're living. Is that we just need 221 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: to be kind to each other and respect each other. 222 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: So that was a lesson from the Joe Big days. 223 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Then we moved to I think I was ten years 224 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: old when we moved to Australia and you know, we've 225 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: lived in hornsby then. We lived in Blacktown and that 226 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: was kind of you know, where I grew up. And 227 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: then when I was eighteen, I moved to Bonne with 228 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. I was eighteen. He was a DJ. It 229 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: was all the order things that he shouldn't be doing. 230 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I did. Thank god, there wasn't any 231 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: social media there and so we did that. And then 232 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: I answered an ad for a pea to the director 233 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: of sales when I was twenty. Then I just got 234 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: into real estates. I didn't have any dreams or aspirations. 235 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: Like I went to a seventh d Aventu school and 236 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: their whole thing was, you know, you got married, you 237 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: had kids, you stayed at seventh a Venters. My parents 238 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: are still seventh Aventers and I love them. And I 239 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: think I just fell into real estate and I really 240 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: loved I don't even know where Double Bay Wall was. 241 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, but what I did like 242 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: is that once I got into it, I loved it right, 243 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: and then I started thinking I want to be rich, 244 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: I want to do you know. And that lasted for 245 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: a few years, and then I realized that the thing 246 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: that was driving me was not about which it was 247 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: the thrill of actually being able to prove people wrong. 248 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: And so I couldn't be a girl in real estate. 249 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: They couldn't be successful in real estate because I was 250 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: a girl. And I've said that, I thought, that's bullshit, 251 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, it shouldn't matter. And I think that was 252 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: my main driver, is that I just did anything in 253 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: terms of the sales perspective to make people remember me today. 254 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: And so I would work seven days a week. If 255 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: someone asked me for a gardener or anything, I would 256 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: just be that person that gave it to them and 257 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: worked for them. And I really enjoyed it, and so 258 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: that is still my driver. So I sold a place 259 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: last week for you know, just under thirty The same 260 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: week I sold something for one point four million to 261 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: a client that i'd actually sold it to a twenty 262 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: years prior. Oh my gosh, and it was It's really cool, 263 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: because you know, those kind of things are really meaningful. 264 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: Because it's not about the money. The money is a 265 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: byproduct of doing something that I really really love. It's 266 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: just been called back and saying, hey, you know, because 267 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: there's so many more real estate agents to have than 268 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: there were before. There's so many and there's no loyalty really, 269 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: but if they see that you're working really hard and 270 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: you've got results and you're doing an authentic way, then 271 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: they're the more likely to reach for you. And that 272 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: is really meaningful. 273 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think one of the things that becomes 274 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: clear in this section, for in fact, most people who 275 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: are living a really fulfilling life is that at some 276 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: point their driver has started as a financial based metric 277 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: of measuring their life and success. But eventually that weighs off, 278 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: like that only drives you for so long before something 279 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: else takes its place. And I think what's really interesting 280 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: is often the conversation these days has become very much 281 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: about are you passionate, like it's the fire and your 282 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: belly to do it? But you didn't necessarily go into 283 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 2: real estate because you saw it like I'm passionate about 284 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: real estate. I actually love that sometimes just being underestimated 285 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: can be your driver. Sometimes proving people wrong is enough 286 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: of a driver. I look at you now and I think, 287 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: you know what, you are so determined that whether it 288 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: was real estate or like fashion, any industry you'd gone into, 289 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: if someone underestimated you, I feel like you would have 290 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: gone I'm going to go to the top of this ladder, 291 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: and I don't care what the ladder is. But that's 292 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: in itself. 293 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: It is. It's like the moment people tell me that 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: I can't do something, I kind of like that. I 295 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: just it is my driver to just get moving. I 296 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: remember when I was at school. My dad told me 297 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: this the other day, and he said, you're always competitive, 298 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: because he said I used to make him after school 299 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: take me to an oval in Blacktown and I sed 300 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: do my homework, and then it was seven o'clock at night. 301 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: I used to make him time me around the oval 302 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: to see how fast I could get, you know, and 303 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: because I wanted to win the trophy at the end 304 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: of the year of the sports thing, and I did, 305 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, But it was just that sheer determination that 306 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: there were people that were faster, that were better, but 307 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I was just so determined to show that I could. 308 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: I think it's not necessarily always about winning. It's about 309 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: just knowing that I've put my absolute best into it 310 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: and that I've given my all, and even with listings 311 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: that I go for now, you know, like you could 312 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: believe in social media even the show, you think that 313 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: we're winning all the time, and that's just not true. 314 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: But the point about being a good winner is that 315 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: you have to learn to be a good loser as well, 316 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: and be gracious in that as well. And I think 317 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: maybe some of the boys that we've seen aren't so 318 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: gracious losing because they want it's the ego that doesn't 319 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: want them to acknowledge that they've called it competition, and 320 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: God forbid, the competition is a girl. You know. So 321 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: I I've never gone up against you. I'm like, yeah, 322 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: you have. And sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. But 323 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing is that your loss is also to 324 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: find you equally as your wins, right, because this is 325 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: how you learn. Like when I lose, I'll call up 326 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: the owner and I say it, thank you for being 327 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: honest with me. Is see anything I could have done differently, 328 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: because that is constructive criticism rather than glass over it 329 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: and say our known and you know that it's silly, 330 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: owner or whatever. It's learning what parts of you need 331 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: to get better, and then working on those because we're 332 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: all working progress. Still after thirty years, I still want 333 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: to keep on learning. 334 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: So I've actually listened to quite a few interviews of 335 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: you talking about why you think you were able to 336 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: make it so far become the best in your business, 337 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: literally from answering an advertisement in a newspaper of all things, 338 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: for a PA to the director not even to be 339 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: in real estate, but to be doing the assisting to 340 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: the person who is in little state. And the two 341 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: things that really seem to stand out is taking ego 342 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: out of the equation and being willing to seeing setbacks 343 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: as an opportunity rather than as a reason to not 344 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: keep going. But also you were mentioning before about loyalty, 345 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: how you know it's hard in this faster paced world 346 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: to have much loyalty, but that you've always nurtured relationships 347 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: because you know the seller in this situation might be 348 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: the buyer next time, and that that longer term view 349 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: of nurture, never going just for the quick win, but 350 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: realizing it's been gracious in the harder moments as well 351 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: to be memorable. And that's something I don't think people 352 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: think about that much. But it seems that you've lasted 353 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: this long on this industry because you know, nurturing those 354 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: relationships has been so important. 355 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with a bit of humility, 356 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: you know. I think the problem with social media and 357 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: the society we find ourselves in it's so based on ego, 358 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: and you know life is edited, you know, so you 359 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: just see the fabulosity. It's not real. And you know, 360 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: no one wins all the time, nobody, and you learn 361 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: from your losses. You have to learn to be humful. 362 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: Some of the best sports people in our world today 363 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: and the era has gone past, have been humble. They 364 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: know that they're on the court or with gain day 365 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: they have to be their best self. They have to 366 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: believe that they're a tiger. But the work that comes 367 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: before that is learning about what the baseline is, what 368 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: makes you you when you're really low, what pulls you 369 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: out of that, because that's the fire, that's the fire. 370 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: Not posting your social media like you's so amazing, it's 371 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: still it's bullshit, you know. And I think what I 372 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: know for me being a mom, like I want a 373 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: better world for my kids. I don't want them to 374 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: go up thinking this is real, because it's not. I 375 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: want to learn and be able to decipher what's real. 376 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: What makes you happy is not necessarily what's out there. 377 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: You're to find it in here, and that's the fuel 378 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: that drives. You've got positive fuel and negative fuel. We 379 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: want to use the positive fuel because that drives you further, 380 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: drives you longer and harder, but eventually it makes you 381 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: happy and happier. It's not the money that's going to 382 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: do that for you. It's how you get there and 383 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: what you do with that when you get there that's 384 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: going to be and give you the happiest you, you know. 385 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: And that's what I've been striving for, because I don't 386 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: need to be the person that drives the fancist car, 387 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: where's the fancist watch, or has the most listings or 388 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: has the most followers. I just want to know myself 389 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: that I'm here because it's the happiest version of me 390 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: I can have, and whatever anyone else thinks, that's their business, 391 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: not mine. 392 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: I love that so much. 393 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: I think something we also get very preoccupied with, as 394 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 2: well as the comparison and being pulled in so many 395 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: different directions, is the fixation on planning on knowing where 396 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: we're You know, we tend to see successes like this 397 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: destination that you have to get to and then when 398 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: you arrive there you'll be happy. But I mean, everyone 399 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: I've spoken to on their show so far, at most 400 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: points in the pathway, they actually haven't known what's coming next. 401 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: And I think sometimes if you plan too hard, you 402 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: don't make room for all the unplanned things that could be. 403 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: You know even better than you ever imagined that might 404 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: land in your lap. And I don't imagine that when 405 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: you first started you knew that you were going to 406 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: be on TV, Like I feel like things unravel in 407 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 2: unexpected ways. So if you were giving advice to anyone 408 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: earlier in their career about how to know what the 409 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: next chapter is and how to just be open, like 410 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: how did luck listing Sydney come about? How did you 411 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: position yourself for that kind of thing? How do you 412 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: deal with uncertainty? And how do you keep striving when 413 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: you don't necessarily know what's coming next? 414 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting? So meditation has helped me a lot. 415 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't get anywhere in life without 416 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: setting goals, right, So you have to set goals because 417 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: you need to know where it is you want to go. 418 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: The most beautiful thing about living the life that we live, 419 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: if you're open to it, is you don't know where 420 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: the journey is going to take you. So you have 421 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: your goals, but also you have to be open to 422 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: this thing called life that takes you on unexpected twists 423 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: and turns, and you have to be opened to different 424 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: situations as they present themselves to you. And so it's 425 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: actually a really funny joke where you know this guy, 426 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: I think he was in the side of the road 427 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: and he says he's taking it from a tree and 428 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: there's fire witheath him and he's saying, God, give me 429 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: a sign, give me a sign. And he sees the 430 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: sign going fast, saying let go. He's like, give me 431 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: another sign. Do you know what I mean? 432 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 3: I got a different one. 433 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't want that sign. And sometimes you have to 434 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: look for the signs and accept that, Okay, it's not 435 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: what you wanted to be, but maybe it's it's going 436 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: to take you somewhere where you didn't expect to go. 437 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: And I never started this journey thinking I want to 438 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: be on TV. Just that was never in my thing. 439 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: And even when they came to me, I was like, 440 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: I was really reticent because my career has been pretty good. 441 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in a bitchy reality show, 442 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: and I was scared that there was going to be 443 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: that essence of all reality shows that I've seen that 444 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: I just did want to be part of is not 445 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: part of my spiritual, emotional or mental journey. And they're 446 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: all fine, but not for me. So the guys Remembers 447 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: are met with me and they assured me that what 448 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: they wanted as a show would be inspirational and aspirational, 449 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: and for the most part they've done that. Obviously, you 450 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: could have drama, but I try and stay out of 451 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: that because it's not my thing. Like I would rather 452 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: be rather than sitting on a boat drinking champagne with 453 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: other Willison agents, home with my kids, are walking along 454 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: the beach, you know. And I've said that openly because 455 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't enjoy it. I know it's not my thing 456 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: and it doesn't make me feel happy and good for 457 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: them if that's what they want, it's not for me. 458 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: And so I think you have to be open in 459 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: life to different twists and turns that your life takes you. 460 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: As we were talking before and appreciating those moments, you know, 461 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: and seeing where those moments takes you, but having your 462 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: goals in mind, like I know that I will always 463 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: want to live where I'm living. I know in my 464 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: head that I always wanted to have, you know, three children, 465 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: and I've always known that, and part of my journey 466 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: was taking me from where I was, which was married 467 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: with one child, to getting myself to a place where 468 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: I was single with two children and now single with 469 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: three children. It was a conscious decision and it was 470 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: a hard one and it was a difficult journey, and 471 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't understand it, including my mom 472 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: and dad. They're like, what are you doing? But I 473 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: don't have to get there for my own personal happiness. 474 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: And I always say people can judge, and there was 475 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: a lot of judgment. But for me, in my mind, 476 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: I knew that that was in my heart, my journey 477 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: that I had to take, and I to take that 478 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: one alone. And I said this the other day, I've 479 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: never felt such deep happiness because the work that it's 480 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: taken to get me from where I was to hear 481 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: it is so fulfilling, and it's kind of like when 482 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: you get there as you were saying before, Wow, it's 483 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: taken me a lot of work to get here, and 484 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: here I am in this moment is beautiful and it's 485 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: it's obviously we always talk about what next, what next, 486 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: what next, but part of life is also be able 487 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: to sit here and appreciate the moments and say I'm 488 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: so thankful, I'm so thankful, rather than what someone else doing, 489 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: or let's look on social media to see who we 490 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: can keep up with. It's like, I'm okay with where 491 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: I am right now, and it's not somebody else's journey, 492 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: it's mind and I appreciate that this is where we are. 493 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 2: So ah, that's so beautiful, and I think that is 494 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: such a unique philosophy in this day and age to 495 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: be our tendency is so quickly to put people in 496 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: boxes like we need to understand where they fit. And 497 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: one reason why, I mean, we're season three of Us 498 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: Listening Sydney is about to come out. Everyone Listening is 499 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: on Prime Video from September thirty and I think one 500 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: of the reasons why you've captured like the nation so 501 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: much is because just when you think you've sorted you out, 502 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: like high flying real estate mogul, star of the TV show. 503 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: Literally like the leading real estate agent in the country 504 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: is a woman, is a mother, is a mother of 505 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: three soon to be three, and a single mother. But 506 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 2: then you think, oh, well, she's going to be really 507 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: career driven. But then you're so balanced about family time. 508 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: So I think you're quite a breath of fresh air 509 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: in a world it's also a very male dominated world 510 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: that is very flushy. But then you kind of you 511 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: go in, you do your work, you work the long days, 512 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: but then you've got your tuesdays at home with the kids. 513 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: Like it. 514 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: Just it's so different to the approach that most people 515 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: take in this industry. How have you figured that out 516 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: for yourself? How have you particularly for any working mums listening, 517 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: whether single mums or otherwise. It's really hard to go 518 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: against the grain in any area, but particularly a male 519 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: dominated area that is very cut through that hours aren't conventional, 520 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: there are big dollars at stake as well. How have you, 521 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: you know, carved out what's important for yourself and not 522 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: got caught up in the glitz and glam and the 523 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: sort of hamster wheel. 524 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: It is a conscious effort because you can't get caught 525 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: up in that so easily, and I was caught up 526 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: in that in my twenties. I would have been a 527 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: terrible month if I was a moment in my twenties, 528 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: because I was really caught up with it and trying 529 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: to keep up with everybody. And then you get to 530 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: a point where you realize that it's not real, it's bullshit. 531 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: Sorry my French, but you know, I just I realized 532 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: that it's not making me happy, you know, and it's 533 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: not always all about the money. Like what I felt 534 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: was that I really liked dealing with people, and I 535 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed my job, but I enjoyed making relationships. And I've 536 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: found that people were coming to me authentically because I 537 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: was enjoying myself and enjoying my work. But what changed 538 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: for me was that I made a conscious decision to 539 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: be single. I started meditation, I started deep therapy. I 540 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: started digging into the why or the ya as you 541 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: call it. You know, it's just what is making me tick, 542 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: what is going to give me? And it's not happiness. 543 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: I think it's more contemptment because you can't be happy 544 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: all the time, right, What is fueling me? And since 545 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: I have done this over the last four or five years, 546 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: my business has just exploded in a wonderful way, like 547 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: probably fifty percent more efficient, more dollar productive, because you know, 548 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: I acted to think vulnerability was an awful word. It's 549 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: like weak, you know, but it's not. And to share 550 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: my journey with people in an honest way has helped 551 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: so many people, clients, friends, people relate and say, oh, 552 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: someone feels what I'm feeling, you know, right as Bravado. 553 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: It's like, we are all just human and we have 554 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: our lows and we have our highs, and gosh, isn't 555 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: it nicer to share them and empathize rather than judge, 556 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, And that's really been the thing. And so yeah, 557 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I get judged after being a women 558 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: or take you my Thursday's Fridays off work because I 559 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: spend them with the kids. And I don't say to 560 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: any of the people that say that to me, Ah, 561 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: the boys say you're doing this and that, and say, okay, 562 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: tell me one of those boys exchanging contacts at eleven 563 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: o'clock at night after waking up at five point thirty 564 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: in the morning, looking after kids all day, working a 565 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: full day, put the kids to sleep. I'm here in 566 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: your house tonight exchanging this contract? Where are the boys? 567 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: And I keep on saying results speak louder than words, 568 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: So don't look at what I'm doing with my children, 569 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: Spend a day in my shoes, and then see if 570 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: you can still operate at my level after thirty years. 571 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to be disrespectful. I'm saying 572 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: disrespect the process and respect everybody who works differently, and 573 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: rather than try and pull down your competition, acknowledge it, 574 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: say hey, well done, right, because when we help others rise, 575 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: we all benefit. But I will never talk badly about 576 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: my competition because I kind of think it just brings 577 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: me down to their level. Yeah, so let them be 578 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: those guys that do that. I won't do that, but 579 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I will show you my results and they will speak 580 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: for themselves, and most times they do. 581 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that's been really 582 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: great about lux listing Sydney as well is that, like, 583 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 2: sometimes I don't know why, but real estate agents can 584 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: get a bad rap, Like there's a lot of misconceptions 585 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: around the industry, and often your exposure is only what 586 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: you see in your own personal hunt for property or 587 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: what you see through families. But it's kind of it 588 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: kind of shows a little bit more of the industry. 589 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: So for anyone who hasn't watched it, or even for 590 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: anyone who has. For you personally, what's been your favorite 591 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: part of the show of like exposing your job of 592 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: being able to have a platform where you can show 593 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: that you don't have to do it this hardcore, aggressive, 594 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: masculine way. You know you can find a nice fans. 595 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: What if you loved the most about the show? What 596 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: are some of the highlights, the coolest properties you've been in, 597 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: some of the tips and tricks from behind the scenes, 598 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: like anything you can dish up at about the show 599 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: that it gets people excited. 600 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: You know, one of my favorite scene is in season three. 601 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but 602 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: it is in season three and it runs through one 603 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: of my actions. And I love auctions. I love them, 604 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: and it's very real and it's what happens since what 605 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: makes it exciting as well. But also I think what 606 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: it also shows is that you know, well, I've been 607 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: in auctions myself where I've gone crazy and I've been 608 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: way above what I should have been because I got 609 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: so emotionally attached to the problem, and it's even happened 610 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: to me. So you put yourself in other people's shoes 611 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: and you see how easily it's able to happen to them, 612 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: and you think, oh god, you know, and I think 613 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: that's the experience where because I'm fifty, I have done 614 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: you know this since I was twenty and so I've 615 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: bought and sole propies, I've been people's shoes, whereas a 616 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of the young guys they haven't done that. They 617 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: don't have the experience to empathize with people, you know, 618 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: putting they're hard earned and stretching themselves to get the 619 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: home that they want. So I love that. That's one 620 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of season three of the show. 621 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: And also obviously I love the parts where we're showing 622 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: these amazing houses and you're seeing Sydney at a very, 623 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: very finest. A show like this has not been done before, 624 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: and it's just been an absolute blast because I didn't 625 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: think it was going to be as good as what 626 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: it is, and when you see it, it's so so beautiful. 627 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: But one of the things I'm most proud of is 628 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: that it actually talks about and I can say this 629 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: for my part anyways, is that there's a lot of 630 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: hard work that's on behind the scenes, and I constantly 631 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: say it like, it's not just about selling multimillion dollar properties. 632 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: It's about making good relationships with people, being genuine, being authentic, 633 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: and being real because this is what we're striving for, 634 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: these connections every day and to be able to say 635 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: to people, I'm not on the boatship and champagne after everything, 636 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm coming back and making facus I'm doing really unnglamorous 637 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: things behind the scenes. You're only getting the icing on 638 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: the cake. I guess it's like social media as well. 639 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: You're only seeing the fancy bits. You don't see the 640 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: hard yards are going before that, which is decidedly unglamorous. Yeah. 641 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: I think that's the other thing people do assume, because again, 642 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: the only part that the average person sees of the 643 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: real estate process is like the hammer coming down, the sale, 644 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 2: the champagne. We see the stage furniture in the house. 645 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: You see the best of the best, and you forget 646 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: like that's not every day. There's not an auction all 647 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: day every day, Like as a real estate agent, you 648 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: don't only do the auction bit, Like there's all the 649 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: shitty bits in betraying you've gone. 650 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Into houses, I've been raking the gardens, have been sweeping 651 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: the floors, have been helping making the beds. If I've 652 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: gone into houses where I've literally have to pick up 653 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: dogs foo in the gardens, it opens and I'll take 654 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: my heels off and I will do that because it's 655 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: all part of the service, you know. And also I 656 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: have to show my staff that you've got to get 657 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: in there and do the hard yachts of stuff. And 658 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: we get people coming to our opens that can be 659 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: so rude, and I just say to my guys, you 660 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: copy it, you know, be the person that palls kindness, 661 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: calls on that person's head, because you don't need to 662 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: play the same game, you know, and show you humility 663 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: and show the fact that you're going to service them 664 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah, And my biggest high is when 665 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: I take someone from bringing a grumpy person when they 666 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: come through my open to a raving client by the 667 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: end of those three four week process, you know, like wow. 668 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: And realist agents do get a bad rap because a 669 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: lot of real estate agents, sadly, I will say, can 670 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: be wakers, you know, or you know, make up lies 671 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: and things. And I think unfortunately that has become really prevalent, 672 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: and I'd love to change the conversation because there's a 673 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: lot of good ones out there as well. Change the 674 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: conversation and say, guys, don't forget we're all about service. 675 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: Your clients can make you, they can break as well, 676 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: So there's nothing wrong with the bidding amility. But remember 677 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: we're in the service industry. 678 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 679 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, well, I'm with that little teaser, so excited about 680 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: season three. 681 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 3: Now, how long are you. 682 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: Filming a season like in the year, you know, you're 683 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: also actually raising your children and doing all the work. 684 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: Does it just fit in sort of seamlessly? They just 685 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: sort of shadow you. 686 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: It's nothing seamless about it. One of the producers, they 687 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: were really great. I said to them, you know, you 688 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: finish this with me, that's your job done. But now 689 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back into my real job and yeah, 690 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: then do my kids. And they were really good with 691 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: fitting input my I'm going to pick my kids up 692 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: at four or you know, I've got to drop them in. 693 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: And they were really good with fitting in with that 694 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: because my time schedule was not always easy. But they 695 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: were really good with that, you know, and it's really 696 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: hard also making or making your clients feel comfortable that 697 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: they're going to be in the show and how they're 698 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: going to be exposed, because selling a house is really 699 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: quite an emotional process. And then all of a sudden 700 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: you're throwing this in as well, which is on a national, 701 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: international stage. You've got to be cognizant and above all, 702 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: I've said, my client relationships are more important than you 703 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: being on a show, So that comes first, and as 704 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: long as we honor and respect that, then everything else 705 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: will fall into place. 706 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 3: And that has Yeah, oh wonderful. I'm so excited for 707 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: September thirty. I'm going to be watching it. 708 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: And now, I mean, you also are fitting in a 709 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: third child. And I think if there's any area where 710 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: people feel like their opinion on how you live your life, 711 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: you know that you deserve to hear it. It's motherhood. 712 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: You know you'll get all sorts of judgment for everything 713 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: you do. You know you've sort of damned whatever you 714 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: choose to do. But particularly as an older mother and 715 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: a working mother, do you find that you get with 716 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: a platform and an audience. You're getting criticism, getting people's 717 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: opinions left, right and center, and how do you block 718 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: that out? For any other working mum's listening. 719 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Look, I've never listened to other people's opinions, otherwise I 720 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't be where I am today. But amazing twenty people 721 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: told him I couldn't do stuff, and I was just like, okay, 722 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: you're titled your opinion, but it's not mine. It's good 723 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: not going to find the way I'm going with my life. 724 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: So I think ages is a number. It is for me, 725 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: and you know, for me to have the career. I 726 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: feel blessed for me to be able to be healthy 727 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: enough to have my children. I feel best. My obstecution 728 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: said to me right at the very beginning with my 729 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: first child. He said, you don't listen to anyone else 730 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: except for me. I listen to your housband, listen to 731 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: your friends, don't listen to doctor Google. You just listen 732 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: to me. And I'd say to him like, given this 733 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: last week and sounds like can I do it to you, toself, 734 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: He's like yes, and you know, so those kind of things. 735 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: If you feel good, your children are going to feel good, 736 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: everything's going to feel good. If you feel bad, then 737 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: everything will fall by that wayside as well. So I 738 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: think it's just important to be good to yourself, be 739 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: kind to yourself, and then all the other things will follow. 740 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: And so other people's opinions really don't make a big 741 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: difference to the way I'm going to live my life. 742 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: They don't make any difference because I know that if 743 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm on the right path, my own path, my spiritual, mental, 744 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: physical path, everything else will fall into place absolutely. 745 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 2: And that leads really nicely to the last section, which 746 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: is the idea that even if you love your job, 747 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: maybe even especially if you love your job, it often 748 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like work, which means that you forget that 749 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: you need to sometimes get some distance from it to 750 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: stay creative, to keep motivated, to get fresh ideas. And 751 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 2: so I call this your play to ya, the fact 752 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: that you have to create an identity that's not work. 753 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 2: You just things to do that are purely for joy, 754 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: whether it's I know you meditate, is it twenty three 755 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: minutes a day. 756 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: Or two three minutes in the morning, and then I 757 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: try and hit a session in the afternoon. But if 758 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: the morning is religious. 759 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: Amazing, what else do you do? Is there anything you 760 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: let yourself do that's just I mean, obviously as a 761 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: working mum, there's not a lot of free time. But 762 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 2: are there any sort of ways you play or things 763 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: you do that just have no purpose that you allow 764 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: yourself to waste time with that just bring you joy. 765 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: I don't waste much time at all. 766 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I didn't think so, but I will. 767 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: Like I've got a yoga So my enjoyment comes from 768 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: physical exercise. So I have my trainer every Thursday morning, 769 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: and I've been with him for nearly fourteen years. So 770 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: he's trained me through three pregnancies, Troy from Isai cru Hey, 771 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: He's amazing. And then I've got my yoga teacher, Christian Wilson. 772 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: So he'll come to the house on Friday mornings and 773 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: he will do yoga with me and my little one, Nama. 774 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: I'll be pretty really cute. Yeah, and she loves it. 775 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: She's like, can you tell me? I'm saying now, but 776 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: you can do the bridge and you can all do 777 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 1: these poses and she loves it. So those are things 778 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: that I get enjoyment from. I love reading them. You 779 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: put me in the song with a good book. I 780 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: am literally in hell. I have a messeuse that comes 781 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: over to a house every Tuesday night and gives me 782 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: a massage after the kids have gone to bed. So 783 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: those are things that, while they're not, you know, time 784 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: wasting things, they're also things that give me deep enjoyment. 785 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a few days where I didn't 786 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: move and sat in the sun and read a book 787 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: and had massages and facial but that's not my life, 788 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: you know. And I've only got the kids. They're little 789 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: for just such a small period of time, and I 790 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: just want to make the moments count, you know. So 791 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, I had a friend that had a brain 792 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: tumor and they're fifty, you know, and you don't know, 793 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, you don't know where life's going to take you. 794 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: And so while I'm all for, you know, obviously having 795 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: your quiet time, which we all need, I'm not going 796 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: to to be defined by work. And by the end 797 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: of my life, no one's going to remember how many 798 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: houses I've sold. They won't care, but they'll remember how 799 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: I made them feel. My kids remember that I was 800 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: always there for them no matter what. And those are 801 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: the things that I wanted to be remembered for. And 802 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: the houses I'm going to I want to sell these anyway, 803 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: because I love my job. I love, love, love my job. 804 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: I love making the calls and everything, but equally and 805 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: more so, it propels me to be able to give 806 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: my children, my family a good life and that we 807 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: can enjoy things on like we went to Cintio Park 808 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: is today and I had the girls riding around in 809 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: their bikes and we played charas and then we had 810 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: Mister Whippy ice cream. It's literally it costs us nothing. 811 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: It literally cost me ten dollars to get through Mister 812 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: Whiby ice creams. That was it. So you know, sometimes 813 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: the simple things in life the things that make you 814 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: most happy, and they're free. 815 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 816 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: I think it's usually those things that probably give you 817 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 2: more internal contentment than the big grand gestures. And I 818 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 2: love that you read. I love reading so much. It's 819 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 2: just such an escape. 820 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 3: Are you a fiction nonfiction? What are your genres? 821 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: I love taken away, I love I like the romance. 822 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 1: I like the thrillers, the crimes. You know, I could 823 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: read a book one night. Two nights would take me 824 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: to read a book if I was really deep into it, 825 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: rather than watch a show or Netflix before I go 826 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: to sleep, I'll read because it will also help me relax. 827 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: But there's some also amazing books as well, like The 828 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: Road Less Travel and those deep books that you have 829 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: to be in the right state of mind to read them, 830 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: so the message going. And sometimes it takes me six 831 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: months to read one of those books, but the page turners, 832 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: you can get through them in a couple of days, 833 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, which I love about holidays because when the 834 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: kids will go to sleep, I'll be there reading my 835 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: book and I'm like, I've got to finish this page. 836 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: It's like twelve o'clock at that I'm like, I'm going 837 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: to be tired tomorrow, but i just need to finish it. 838 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 3: That's when you know you've got a good book. 839 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: I know. The page turners. They call page turners for 840 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: a reason. 841 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know something said just before about the idea 842 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: that you know you will never get to the end 843 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: of your life and wish that you spent more time 844 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: at work and less time with your family, and that 845 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: you sold more houses, but people will remember how you 846 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: made them feel. My favorite quote ever is that my 847 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 2: Angelou quote that people will never remember what you said 848 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 2: or did, They'll always remember how you made them feel. 849 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: Is there a favorite quote that you have that sticks 850 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: out to you as representing your philosophy. 851 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, I've got the book on Little People, Big Dreams, 852 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: and my Angelou is in that book, and I have 853 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: a whole section of those books. I think I've got 854 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: about twenty of them. Amelia are our mother, Teresa. I 855 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: read them to my girls and they love them. The 856 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: their favorite books because it's about people that found their 857 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: passion even despite incredible odds. And isn't that a great 858 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 1: lesson for us to be teaching our little people today. 859 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: It's about finding the things that make you happy. And 860 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: my favorite quote, actually, I had annow some Mandela quote 861 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: that I used for years and years, and then I 862 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: came across this about three months ago. I think I 863 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: was in Hawaii with the kids, and it's this, It's 864 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: not only children. And I print them up and I 865 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: put them on my wall here and also my wall 866 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: at the office at home. It's not only children who grow, 867 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: parents do too. As much as we watch to see 868 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 1: what our children do with their lives, they are watching 869 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: us to see what we do with ours. I can't 870 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: tell my children to reach for the sun. All I 871 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: can do is reach for it myself. 872 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 873 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: And it's just when I think of my children I 874 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: think about how I want my life to look. That 875 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: quote is just it's there. I put it and buy 876 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: a wall in the office, and I've got my wall 877 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: at home because I want to remember that that is 878 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, our children are looking at us, and you know, 879 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: you can't tell someone to do something if you're not 880 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: actually doing it yourself. And so I look at that 881 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 1: and I see I want to see the sunshine from 882 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: the inside of me. And your children see that and 883 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: they want to emulate it, and they can be good 884 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: role models for themselves and for the people around them. 885 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: And isn't that the best gift we can give? 886 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: And it's oh, that's a lovely one. Thank you so much, Delane. 887 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for not only being such an incredibly inspiring 888 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 2: woman out there just smashing life, but for giving me 889 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: your time and energy and such beautiful messages to take 890 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 2: away today. 891 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah, it's been fun. Thanks for having me. 892 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 3: No, I can't wait for season three. 893 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: I have actually one last question for all the people 894 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: who are obsessed with lux Listing Sydney. For the house interiors, 895 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 2: the inspo, they're just oh my gosh, some of the 896 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 2: houses you walk through. Are there any things that are 897 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: really on trend in housing, and are there any things 898 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 2: that you walk in and you're like, eh, lots, Yeah. 899 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: But you know a lot of the new houses that 900 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm selling. So it's funny because you have to go in. 901 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: Like I remember I was selling this house and it 902 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: was just one of the outherose houses I've ever seen. 903 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: I was like, how am I going to sell it? 904 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: And this is the professionalism you actually have to bring 905 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: to the table because it's not about you, it's about 906 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: you giving that personal service. And he said to me, 907 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: what do you think about the house? I was like, 908 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: it's really unique. 909 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 3: That's a great word. It's different. 910 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I was doing the follow our calls, 911 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: right because we listed it and I was doing the 912 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: follower calls and I spoke to this guy and he goes, 913 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: my wife really likes and I was like, yeah, it's amazing, 914 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: isn't it. And you know, like we exchanged contracts. It 915 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: was a big price within a couple of days. Because 916 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: there is a lid for every pot, and so what 917 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: we think is on trend for one person, it's not 918 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: necessarily on trend for another. And that's the thing. Our 919 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: society shifts and shapes it's like water, and you kind 920 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: of have to be a bit of a comedian because 921 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 1: it's not hard and fast rules. It's going with what 922 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: you like, Sarah versus what I like. So everybody is 923 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: an individual And what I love about our society now 924 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: is that there's more space for us to speak up 925 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: about our individualism and say I don't like what you like, 926 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: but it's okay to like what I like, and it's acceptance. 927 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 1: We're quite brave actually in our society now. Just go, hey, 928 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: this is who I am and I'm not making any 929 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: apologies for it, and it should be more of that 930 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: and once we have those people accepting it, Like my 931 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: style could be really quirky and weird, but for me, 932 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: it's right or wrong. It's just me. And I think 933 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: that's the things with real estate and the houses that 934 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: we're selling, and you have to appreciate the selling attributes 935 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: and even if you don't like other stuff, it's not 936 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: about what you like. It's about finding that person that 937 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: fits that is that lid for that pot and then 938 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: making them pay a lot of money for it. 939 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I am writing that down right now. 940 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 2: There is a lid for every pot that applies perfectly 941 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: to this show as well. The idea that even in 942 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 2: your career paths or your life choices in. 943 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: Real estate, yeah, it's in the basil. 944 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 2: You totally think that you need to fit the mold 945 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 2: that other people are in pos on your pathway. But 946 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 2: you've just got to find the lids that suit you. 947 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I was talking to there's so many 948 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: girls that I speak to and we brought up with 949 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: mums that say that you were defined your level of 950 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: success is when are you going to get married, when 951 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: you're going to have kids? When you do this, and 952 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 1: you know what, it's break that mold. It's not the 953 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: definition of happiness that we need to aspire to. It's 954 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: you make your own life. You know, like I've got 955 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: a sperm donut and not a sperm doner for my 956 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: third child. And that's not what you learn when you're 957 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: a kid about how you should live your life and 958 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: what's accepted. But bug at that? Or why can't we 959 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: make our own rules? Why can't we run to our 960 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: own agenda? Who's there to tell us what happiness looks 961 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: like other than us? Right? And so why can't we 962 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: embrace that dialogue and say this is my life. I'm 963 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: going to own it, and I'm going to make it 964 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 1: the happiest version that I can make it. It doesn't 965 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: have to be your version, but I want to be 966 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: accepted for living my life on my terms. And even 967 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,479 Speaker 1: if you don't accept me, that's fine, but I'm still 968 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: going to do that. I think if we can teach 969 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: that to girls and boys and it's okay to be you, 970 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: just be the best version of you, wouldn't we wish 971 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: to be happier? 972 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it'd be such a yay Field society. 973 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, thank you so much, Delane. This has 974 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: been wonderful and I can't wait to catch you on 975 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 2: season three. 976 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: Well, I might be a lot lighter after season three 977 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: when it launches, I think a few Well, I mean, 978 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: I'll definitely have the baby by then, so I wouldn't stay. 979 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: I would miss the actual launch, but it's going to 980 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: be exciting. Nonetheless, a whole bunch of different levels. 981 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 3: Oh congratulations, we'll be following, very keenly. 982 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: Nice to chat, Sarah. 983 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, but I was seriously 984 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 2: inspired by Delane and her refreshing attitude towards age success 985 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: parenthood and hard work. If you enjoy listening, please as 986 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 2: always share the episode, tagging at Delane, Lewis and Us 987 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 2: so we can keep growing the neighborhood as far and 988 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 2: wide as possible. I haven't been as active on socials 989 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 2: in recent weeks, but I'm back on the ground and 990 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm always so grateful when the neighborhood interacts, so please 991 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: never hesitate to send over your thoughts, requests for guests, 992 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 2: or themes for us to cover, and anything and everything 993 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 2: in between. I'm heading off on the next three stops 994 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: of the Keep It Cleaner Tour as well this weekend, 995 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: so maybe I will get to meet some of you 996 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 2: in Adelaide, Auckland or Perth over the coming weekends, with 997 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: Stephan Laura also returning for a new episode which has 998 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: been I think four years since their original episode in 999 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: December twenty eighteen in just a few days, so stay 1000 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 2: tuned for that. I hope you're having an amazing week 1001 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 2: and are seizing your yeay