1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:19,954 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mom with Me podcast from Mama Mia. 2 00:00:20,194 --> 00:00:23,474 Speaker 1: Welcome to this bill your daily pop culture fix. I'm 3 00:00:23,514 --> 00:00:26,434 Speaker 1: Laura Brodnick and I'm m Venom coming up on the 4 00:00:26,474 --> 00:00:28,794 Speaker 1: show today. Also, we love a cameo by MLA. 5 00:00:28,954 --> 00:00:31,714 Speaker 2: Hello, I'm actually very excited because I have a big 6 00:00:31,794 --> 00:00:32,274 Speaker 2: day today. 7 00:00:32,434 --> 00:00:34,233 Speaker 1: Oh what else? Is just just been hanging out with 8 00:00:34,234 --> 00:00:36,273 Speaker 1: me on the podge or something else? It's not me, 9 00:00:36,394 --> 00:00:37,233 Speaker 1: is it? It's not me? 10 00:00:37,354 --> 00:00:40,554 Speaker 2: It's never the first time I have a little date 11 00:00:40,674 --> 00:00:41,793 Speaker 2: and you're not there. 12 00:00:42,354 --> 00:00:44,354 Speaker 3: I'm going to the f one movie. 13 00:00:44,593 --> 00:00:47,754 Speaker 1: Oh with my dad? Oh my god. Well, I mostly 14 00:00:47,793 --> 00:00:49,793 Speaker 1: look forward to your dad's reviews because, as you know, 15 00:00:49,873 --> 00:00:51,793 Speaker 1: your mum and I have a really similar movie taste. 16 00:00:51,793 --> 00:00:53,673 Speaker 1: So it's usually Evelyn and I like in the trenches 17 00:00:53,714 --> 00:00:55,794 Speaker 1: with our reviews. So I'm really interested to show what 18 00:00:55,834 --> 00:00:58,993 Speaker 1: you're doing is the exact same as me. So I 19 00:00:59,034 --> 00:01:01,674 Speaker 1: did say when we were talking about Brad Pitt's Craziness 20 00:01:01,714 --> 00:01:02,434 Speaker 1: the other day. 21 00:01:02,314 --> 00:01:08,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashley, I loved that episode. I had so many feelings. Guys, 22 00:01:08,674 --> 00:01:09,554 Speaker 2: addressed all of them. 23 00:01:09,474 --> 00:01:11,114 Speaker 1: Because that's what you're going to see tonight. Brad Pitts 24 00:01:11,114 --> 00:01:13,594 Speaker 1: new movie. Bit usually know onn is the f one movie. 25 00:01:13,674 --> 00:01:16,914 Speaker 2: Yes, and it's I have complicated feelings going into it. 26 00:01:16,994 --> 00:01:18,754 Speaker 1: No, I know I wasn't trying to skew what you 27 00:01:18,754 --> 00:01:21,354 Speaker 1: were saying, like skew your view of the movie. So 28 00:01:21,434 --> 00:01:23,514 Speaker 1: you go and just think of it your own way. 29 00:01:23,594 --> 00:01:25,354 Speaker 3: I mean, it's what critiques here, So I will be 30 00:01:25,474 --> 00:01:26,594 Speaker 3: yes critical. 31 00:01:26,834 --> 00:01:29,234 Speaker 1: Yes, oh god, I know, I know. We'll stay tuned 32 00:01:29,234 --> 00:01:33,474 Speaker 1: fans completely unbiased review of that movie that I'm sadly 33 00:01:33,514 --> 00:01:35,794 Speaker 1: not going to. But I was invited. I got my 34 00:01:35,834 --> 00:01:36,434 Speaker 1: tickets away. 35 00:01:36,594 --> 00:01:37,274 Speaker 3: Your sister's here. 36 00:01:37,434 --> 00:01:37,634 Speaker 1: Yes. 37 00:01:38,354 --> 00:01:38,954 Speaker 3: Personal tip. 38 00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:40,953 Speaker 1: Now we've got all of our family drama. 39 00:01:42,074 --> 00:01:43,194 Speaker 3: I've talked about our family. 40 00:01:43,634 --> 00:01:45,834 Speaker 1: That's just our personal I've been guys, talk among yourselves 41 00:01:45,914 --> 00:01:48,354 Speaker 1: or we get that sorted. Coming up on the show today, 42 00:01:48,674 --> 00:01:54,314 Speaker 1: a truly chaotic interview between two musical superstars that It's 43 00:01:54,354 --> 00:01:56,234 Speaker 1: been a while since I've read an interview like this, 44 00:01:56,434 --> 00:01:58,674 Speaker 1: But I was just like, what the hell is going on? 45 00:01:58,714 --> 00:02:01,394 Speaker 1: But also you feel completely like a fly on the walls. 46 00:02:01,434 --> 00:02:03,154 Speaker 1: We're going to get into that because you have notes. 47 00:02:03,234 --> 00:02:05,754 Speaker 1: Ye plus one of the biggest TV shows of the 48 00:02:05,834 --> 00:02:14,474 Speaker 1: last few years, Banda. It's like a Dallas. It's here 49 00:02:14,474 --> 00:02:17,034 Speaker 1: in the room with us, right now, can you do 50 00:02:17,114 --> 00:02:19,073 Speaker 1: the dance? I'd love to see you try, not that 51 00:02:19,114 --> 00:02:20,474 Speaker 1: you couldn't, I'm not judging you. 52 00:02:20,514 --> 00:02:22,994 Speaker 2: Maybe I should start the hardest part in the work backwards. 53 00:02:22,994 --> 00:02:25,834 Speaker 2: I'll start with the jump split, sure, and then work 54 00:02:25,914 --> 00:02:28,194 Speaker 2: my way through the high kicks. And the power is 55 00:02:28,274 --> 00:02:30,834 Speaker 2: starting with It's all about power, right, that's what they say, 56 00:02:30,874 --> 00:02:31,594 Speaker 2: It's all about power. 57 00:02:31,634 --> 00:02:32,914 Speaker 1: I think we need a little bit more than that 58 00:02:32,994 --> 00:02:37,074 Speaker 1: to get through vodka. But yes, we have a full 59 00:02:37,114 --> 00:02:39,394 Speaker 1: review on that coming and today no spoilers, but just 60 00:02:39,434 --> 00:02:42,474 Speaker 1: our thoughts on the season, because holy hell, this season 61 00:02:42,554 --> 00:02:48,074 Speaker 1: is so much darker than expected. But first, some interesting 62 00:02:48,114 --> 00:02:50,194 Speaker 1: baby news. 63 00:02:50,354 --> 00:02:53,794 Speaker 2: Congratulations machine Gun Kelly, Megan. 64 00:02:54,154 --> 00:02:56,754 Speaker 1: He doesn't like to be called that anymore, so he's 65 00:02:56,794 --> 00:02:59,514 Speaker 1: just MGK. Now I want to get that email. Yeah, no, 66 00:02:59,834 --> 00:03:02,514 Speaker 1: I didn't cross your desk. He doesn't like to be 67 00:03:02,514 --> 00:03:05,314 Speaker 1: called machine gun Kelly anymore because of the gun reference, 68 00:03:05,634 --> 00:03:08,353 Speaker 1: which is actually quite nice, So now he just goes 69 00:03:08,354 --> 00:03:10,954 Speaker 1: by MGK. He's a family man now, he is, well, 70 00:03:10,954 --> 00:03:13,034 Speaker 1: he has he's always been. He's been for a while. 71 00:03:13,074 --> 00:03:16,394 Speaker 1: He yes, he has many children now. So Megan Fox 72 00:03:16,394 --> 00:03:18,794 Speaker 1: and machine Gun Kelly have been together for many years. 73 00:03:18,914 --> 00:03:21,554 Speaker 1: When they first got together. Their love burned hot and 74 00:03:21,554 --> 00:03:24,834 Speaker 1: bright and fast. One of my favorite celebrity love stories. 75 00:03:25,154 --> 00:03:29,954 Speaker 1: Don't you reckon what? Just because it was so batshit crazy, 76 00:03:30,194 --> 00:03:31,314 Speaker 1: like I loved everything. 77 00:03:31,634 --> 00:03:33,634 Speaker 2: I guess as a journalist it was a favorite. 78 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:34,754 Speaker 1: But jos is strong. 79 00:03:35,434 --> 00:03:36,954 Speaker 3: What we do here for anything else? 80 00:03:37,074 --> 00:03:39,594 Speaker 2: No, well no, it was a crutch grab that did 81 00:03:39,634 --> 00:03:39,994 Speaker 2: it for me. 82 00:03:40,114 --> 00:03:43,154 Speaker 1: I couldn't Yeah, look, I can't get I can't get 83 00:03:43,194 --> 00:03:45,514 Speaker 1: behind making out in public bathrooms, Like that's just a 84 00:03:45,554 --> 00:03:49,074 Speaker 1: little bit gross. And I like the blood thing, yes, 85 00:03:49,114 --> 00:03:51,634 Speaker 1: but she has a really good defense of that. Okay, 86 00:03:51,714 --> 00:03:54,154 Speaker 1: she thinks that it is so weird that we think 87 00:03:54,154 --> 00:03:56,314 Speaker 1: it's disgusting that they have a tiny little vial of 88 00:03:56,354 --> 00:03:59,514 Speaker 1: each other's blood and it's on call her daddy. She says, 89 00:03:59,514 --> 00:04:00,954 Speaker 1: it's the kind of quote and she's like, and you're 90 00:04:00,994 --> 00:04:04,114 Speaker 1: gonna go off and like suck off some random in 91 00:04:04,154 --> 00:04:05,914 Speaker 1: the bar and have his come in your mouth and 92 00:04:05,914 --> 00:04:08,394 Speaker 1: even buy you a nice stream and that's so disgusting, 93 00:04:08,394 --> 00:04:10,274 Speaker 1: And you'd go and do that, no one would judge you. 94 00:04:10,634 --> 00:04:12,594 Speaker 1: But I can't have a little bit of my like 95 00:04:12,714 --> 00:04:15,194 Speaker 1: soulmate's blood in a beautiful necklace. And I was like 96 00:04:15,474 --> 00:04:19,953 Speaker 1: fair coal girl fair, things were weird. I'm glad. Anyway, 97 00:04:20,113 --> 00:04:22,474 Speaker 1: their love burned hot and bright. They got engaged with 98 00:04:22,514 --> 00:04:24,314 Speaker 1: a ring that remember if she took it off, it 99 00:04:24,313 --> 00:04:25,754 Speaker 1: would hurt her her engagement ring. 100 00:04:25,794 --> 00:04:26,553 Speaker 3: I do remember that. 101 00:04:26,873 --> 00:04:28,474 Speaker 1: Again, I think that was a little bit built up. 102 00:04:28,474 --> 00:04:29,914 Speaker 1: I think that was just them trying to be like, 103 00:04:30,113 --> 00:04:32,234 Speaker 1: you know, interesting on Instagram, which. 104 00:04:32,034 --> 00:04:34,993 Speaker 2: Always is never the only thing they've been trying to 105 00:04:35,034 --> 00:04:37,433 Speaker 2: do on Instagram. Yeah, be interesting. It's worked. 106 00:04:37,513 --> 00:04:38,993 Speaker 1: And then yes, and they had a very on and 107 00:04:39,034 --> 00:04:42,074 Speaker 1: off relationship. I actually thought at the stage where this 108 00:04:42,154 --> 00:04:44,714 Speaker 1: news came out that they were off, like they're in 109 00:04:44,753 --> 00:04:47,154 Speaker 1: the off part of their relationship, and she did say like, 110 00:04:47,474 --> 00:04:49,433 Speaker 1: we're still working things out, but we're always going to 111 00:04:49,433 --> 00:04:51,713 Speaker 1: be in each other's lives. Then she announced she was 112 00:04:51,753 --> 00:04:53,473 Speaker 1: pregnant with a little girl, and there was like you know, 113 00:04:53,513 --> 00:04:56,073 Speaker 1: and they were very excited about it. And the little 114 00:04:56,073 --> 00:04:58,633 Speaker 1: girl has been born and we finally know her name. 115 00:04:58,993 --> 00:04:59,914 Speaker 3: What is her name? 116 00:05:00,193 --> 00:05:02,073 Speaker 1: Okay, So I just want to set the same how 117 00:05:02,113 --> 00:05:04,313 Speaker 1: it was announced, So it was MGK put up a 118 00:05:04,354 --> 00:05:12,633 Speaker 1: video of him playing the ukulele to the baby. You 119 00:05:12,794 --> 00:05:15,833 Speaker 1: don't frown, Emily, Okay, no, that's nice. And in the capuch. 120 00:05:15,953 --> 00:05:19,634 Speaker 1: Underneath it said Saga Blade Fox Baker. 121 00:05:20,393 --> 00:05:22,794 Speaker 2: Oh why is he telling us his Netflix password? 122 00:05:25,393 --> 00:05:27,714 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no one's going to crack that. Just 123 00:05:27,753 --> 00:05:29,713 Speaker 1: add a little exclamation mark and like a two at 124 00:05:29,753 --> 00:05:31,794 Speaker 1: the end or something so that no one will crack it. 125 00:05:31,914 --> 00:05:33,514 Speaker 3: Saga, what is it? Wait? 126 00:05:33,714 --> 00:05:34,873 Speaker 1: Saga Blade? 127 00:05:35,234 --> 00:05:37,193 Speaker 2: So there's a reason, so we don't know each name 128 00:05:37,474 --> 00:05:39,834 Speaker 2: in that big name have meaning. 129 00:05:39,953 --> 00:05:42,073 Speaker 1: So Saga is the first name of the little girl, 130 00:05:42,113 --> 00:05:43,713 Speaker 1: and Blade is her second name, and then. 131 00:05:43,594 --> 00:05:46,594 Speaker 2: That Saga because this is like not their first child. 132 00:05:46,594 --> 00:05:48,633 Speaker 2: So they're showing us. 133 00:05:48,794 --> 00:05:51,313 Speaker 1: Well, they haven't officially said, but sources close to the 134 00:05:51,313 --> 00:05:53,553 Speaker 1: couple and I do believe this is probably true, have 135 00:05:53,714 --> 00:05:57,873 Speaker 1: said the name Saga, which means story or tale, really 136 00:05:57,873 --> 00:06:01,434 Speaker 1: felt so much. I mean there might be people out 137 00:06:01,433 --> 00:06:03,594 Speaker 1: there who don't know, I don't know, really felt right 138 00:06:03,674 --> 00:06:05,873 Speaker 1: to them. It's a new chapter full of meaning. And 139 00:06:05,993 --> 00:06:07,753 Speaker 1: hope that's a bit cute. 140 00:06:07,873 --> 00:06:08,873 Speaker 3: That's quite nice. 141 00:06:09,113 --> 00:06:12,193 Speaker 2: It's a bit interesting to name your child because what 142 00:06:12,313 --> 00:06:17,713 Speaker 2: I hear is like, we're literally cementing our separation with 143 00:06:17,794 --> 00:06:18,553 Speaker 2: this child's name. 144 00:06:19,914 --> 00:06:22,113 Speaker 1: That's why as soon as I heard it, I was like, well, 145 00:06:22,154 --> 00:06:25,313 Speaker 1: their relationship has been a saga. It's been a saga 146 00:06:25,354 --> 00:06:27,473 Speaker 1: for the ages, and apparently they want this child to 147 00:06:27,513 --> 00:06:29,873 Speaker 1: remember that just like to this child, you have added 148 00:06:29,914 --> 00:06:32,713 Speaker 1: a lot of drama to our lives. So I mean 149 00:06:32,714 --> 00:06:35,354 Speaker 1: that's nice. I mean I always love when celebrities give 150 00:06:35,393 --> 00:06:37,473 Speaker 1: their children weird names, because these children live in a 151 00:06:37,513 --> 00:06:40,113 Speaker 1: weird world with other weirdly named children. So I think 152 00:06:40,154 --> 00:06:41,073 Speaker 1: it's totally fine. 153 00:06:41,154 --> 00:06:43,274 Speaker 2: They're the only people who are allowed to do it. 154 00:06:43,553 --> 00:06:45,513 Speaker 2: And then the thing is is, if you're a celebrity 155 00:06:45,553 --> 00:06:47,794 Speaker 2: and you give your child a weird name, you owe 156 00:06:47,834 --> 00:06:50,834 Speaker 2: it to that child to continue to be famous, because 157 00:06:50,834 --> 00:06:54,234 Speaker 2: the minute you drop down our celebrityism, they become an 158 00:06:54,234 --> 00:06:58,273 Speaker 2: everyday Yeah, they can't. We can't have a Saga amongst us. 159 00:06:58,553 --> 00:07:00,633 Speaker 1: No, we can't have a Saga here in the kitchen 160 00:07:00,794 --> 00:07:03,274 Speaker 1: and someone being like, oh, like, Saga's next time getting 161 00:07:03,274 --> 00:07:06,274 Speaker 1: her eyebrows done, Saga's booked the meeting room. Can someone 162 00:07:06,553 --> 00:07:08,993 Speaker 1: change that, Saga's left her water bottle in the kitchen? 163 00:07:08,993 --> 00:07:10,514 Speaker 1: Can someone go tell her we can't have that here. 164 00:07:10,554 --> 00:07:12,594 Speaker 3: It's also quite a like negative name. 165 00:07:12,914 --> 00:07:14,754 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think that well. I love that. 166 00:07:14,794 --> 00:07:16,634 Speaker 1: It means I personally like the name story for a 167 00:07:16,634 --> 00:07:19,754 Speaker 1: girl better, but I think it means the same thing 168 00:07:19,874 --> 00:07:21,074 Speaker 1: story you always. 169 00:07:20,834 --> 00:07:22,474 Speaker 2: Say, like if someone's being a bit much and it's 170 00:07:22,514 --> 00:07:24,913 Speaker 2: just like, oh, EM's come in and this whole such. 171 00:07:24,794 --> 00:07:27,593 Speaker 1: She's got such a saga. Oh yeah, I guess so maybe. 172 00:07:27,714 --> 00:07:29,714 Speaker 1: But also you're right, you have to be continue to 173 00:07:29,754 --> 00:07:31,674 Speaker 1: be very famous and rich to live up to your 174 00:07:31,714 --> 00:07:32,354 Speaker 1: child's name. 175 00:07:32,474 --> 00:07:34,074 Speaker 3: But you need to be in Apple Martin. 176 00:07:34,714 --> 00:07:37,353 Speaker 1: Yes, but at least Apple and Moses both have kind 177 00:07:37,393 --> 00:07:40,393 Speaker 1: of the Martin children both have kind of different names, 178 00:07:40,434 --> 00:07:45,314 Speaker 1: whereas like Machine and Kelly sorry MGK MGK. Colson Baker 179 00:07:45,434 --> 00:07:48,394 Speaker 1: his real name. His oldest daughter is Cassie. Yeah, that's 180 00:07:48,393 --> 00:07:50,833 Speaker 1: a nice name, lovely. And then Meghan's other sons that 181 00:07:50,914 --> 00:07:55,874 Speaker 1: she shares with Brian Mustin Green from nine two o Fame. Noah, 182 00:07:56,154 --> 00:07:59,434 Speaker 1: very normal name. Body also very normal name, especially in 183 00:07:59,474 --> 00:08:02,474 Speaker 1: kel America. Yeah, yeah, very Meg and Journey. So we're 184 00:08:02,514 --> 00:08:05,594 Speaker 1: kind of getting Journey and Saga. Ny and Saga feel 185 00:08:05,594 --> 00:08:07,674 Speaker 1: like they're going to be a little bit left out 186 00:08:07,914 --> 00:08:08,754 Speaker 1: of the kids table. 187 00:08:08,914 --> 00:08:10,874 Speaker 2: You could tell she was like, has she got to 188 00:08:11,234 --> 00:08:12,754 Speaker 2: is a body as she got to both just like 189 00:08:13,354 --> 00:08:14,954 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying this interesting. 190 00:08:14,994 --> 00:08:17,554 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like I'm touched the water it's warm. I'm 191 00:08:17,554 --> 00:08:19,874 Speaker 1: going to clean rin in and go for a weird 192 00:08:19,914 --> 00:08:23,074 Speaker 1: baby name. It's going to keep getting progressively worse. So 193 00:08:23,114 --> 00:08:25,594 Speaker 1: they haven't actually said what Blade means, but as a 194 00:08:25,594 --> 00:08:28,354 Speaker 1: little deep dive, this is some deep law on their backstory. 195 00:08:28,634 --> 00:08:33,074 Speaker 1: In a twenty twenty one GQ couple's interview, MGK was 196 00:08:33,154 --> 00:08:36,194 Speaker 1: asked by a producer in the interview to confirm that 197 00:08:36,274 --> 00:08:39,233 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a middle name, and Meghan said, can 198 00:08:39,274 --> 00:08:41,914 Speaker 1: I guess what your middle name will be? Blade? 199 00:08:42,514 --> 00:08:43,194 Speaker 3: Interesting? 200 00:08:43,434 --> 00:08:47,074 Speaker 1: And so I think that's they've carried about little on this. Yeah, 201 00:08:47,194 --> 00:08:48,794 Speaker 1: I've got all the facts on this child. 202 00:08:49,434 --> 00:08:53,034 Speaker 2: So Saga, Blade and then Fox Baker. Yes, their last names, 203 00:08:53,034 --> 00:08:54,954 Speaker 2: which is actually a beautiful last name. 204 00:08:55,114 --> 00:08:55,674 Speaker 3: What's Baker? 205 00:08:55,754 --> 00:08:58,194 Speaker 1: Fox Baker? I love Wait, yeah, I love what. We're 206 00:08:58,234 --> 00:08:59,914 Speaker 1: on board with that. Well, now that we have the 207 00:08:59,914 --> 00:09:03,354 Speaker 1: first part of our podcast critiquing this child's name, it's 208 00:09:03,514 --> 00:09:05,754 Speaker 1: better move on. It's not the best use of our time. 209 00:09:05,754 --> 00:09:08,274 Speaker 1: But anyway, little Saga, I can't wait till she's like walking. 210 00:09:08,354 --> 00:09:09,914 Speaker 1: The MTV Award wrote carpet or something. 211 00:09:10,114 --> 00:09:11,034 Speaker 3: Look at that saga. 212 00:09:11,594 --> 00:09:13,474 Speaker 2: The saga should be the name of a podcast. 213 00:09:13,674 --> 00:09:16,594 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. We'll keep you updated, We'll probably still 214 00:09:16,594 --> 00:09:19,074 Speaker 1: be here, Okay. 215 00:09:19,274 --> 00:09:23,994 Speaker 2: So I came across an interview in Interview Magazine. And 216 00:09:24,274 --> 00:09:26,474 Speaker 2: we've talked about Interview Magazine a lot because they have 217 00:09:26,674 --> 00:09:30,314 Speaker 2: very unique interviewing styles where basically they just print and 218 00:09:30,354 --> 00:09:34,594 Speaker 2: publish the entire transcript of every interview they do, and 219 00:09:34,834 --> 00:09:38,234 Speaker 2: usually it will be a journalist interviewing a celebrity, or 220 00:09:38,274 --> 00:09:42,274 Speaker 2: they do a lot of celebrities on celebrities. My favorite 221 00:09:42,314 --> 00:09:45,114 Speaker 2: interview by them was when Donald Glover interviewed Donald Glover. 222 00:09:45,434 --> 00:09:47,114 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a great one, and he. 223 00:09:47,074 --> 00:09:49,754 Speaker 2: Asked himself, are you and Phoebe Wallerbridge still friends? And 224 00:09:49,834 --> 00:09:53,074 Speaker 2: he said the fine friendship and it was just back 225 00:09:53,074 --> 00:09:54,394 Speaker 2: and forth between himself. 226 00:09:54,154 --> 00:09:57,274 Speaker 1: Because she walked away from them. I loved when Rihanna 227 00:09:57,354 --> 00:09:59,594 Speaker 1: was interviewed by the editor of Intew magazine who used 228 00:09:59,634 --> 00:10:01,594 Speaker 1: to work with her, just yelled at him the whole time, 229 00:10:01,794 --> 00:10:03,274 Speaker 1: shut up now, shut up now. 230 00:10:04,114 --> 00:10:05,794 Speaker 2: And the thing is is like, it's so unique that 231 00:10:05,834 --> 00:10:08,514 Speaker 2: they just print every time. Yah, there's hardly any edits. 232 00:10:08,554 --> 00:10:10,514 Speaker 2: And I was really excited for this one because it 233 00:10:10,634 --> 00:10:14,114 Speaker 2: was two of my favorite singers, two of our favorite singers. 234 00:10:14,354 --> 00:10:19,154 Speaker 2: Chapel Roan interviewing Scissa the Dream Combo, The Dream Combo. 235 00:10:19,314 --> 00:10:20,394 Speaker 3: I was so excited. 236 00:10:20,434 --> 00:10:23,874 Speaker 2: The photos of Scissor because it was her interview were beautiful. 237 00:10:24,154 --> 00:10:25,874 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god, both of these are 238 00:10:26,034 --> 00:10:29,274 Speaker 2: massive Grammy winners, Like they've just like shot up into stardom. 239 00:10:29,394 --> 00:10:31,474 Speaker 2: Everyone knows them, everyone loves them. It's going to be 240 00:10:31,514 --> 00:10:35,034 Speaker 2: such a good interview. I spoke way too soon. This 241 00:10:35,154 --> 00:10:38,754 Speaker 2: interview is one of the most chaotic things I have 242 00:10:39,354 --> 00:10:43,154 Speaker 2: ever read. I as I was reading this, I was like, 243 00:10:43,434 --> 00:10:46,594 Speaker 2: oh my god, the editors at Interview mag are gonna 244 00:10:47,074 --> 00:10:49,794 Speaker 2: deeply regret this, because it's just it's as if like 245 00:10:50,914 --> 00:10:55,434 Speaker 2: you're interviewing a girl who's like you're peer and you're 246 00:10:55,474 --> 00:10:57,874 Speaker 2: both just really big fangirls on each other, and it 247 00:10:57,914 --> 00:11:00,434 Speaker 2: becomes like this is like this conversation that you would 248 00:11:00,434 --> 00:11:04,474 Speaker 2: hear over drinks rather than like an actual juicy interview. 249 00:11:04,634 --> 00:11:05,754 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, these guys are 250 00:11:05,754 --> 00:11:07,434 Speaker 2: gonna hate it. But now we're talking about it, so 251 00:11:07,474 --> 00:11:08,514 Speaker 2: I guess it kind of did it's job. 252 00:11:09,234 --> 00:11:11,274 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's exactly what's supposed to be. It's meant 253 00:11:11,314 --> 00:11:13,234 Speaker 1: to be like you're you've dropping on a phone call 254 00:11:13,234 --> 00:11:14,794 Speaker 1: because they were doing it over the phone. You usually 255 00:11:14,794 --> 00:11:16,354 Speaker 1: get them in the same room, but they're both busy 256 00:11:16,354 --> 00:11:18,154 Speaker 1: and tearing, so get them over the phone, and it 257 00:11:18,234 --> 00:11:20,234 Speaker 1: honestly just feels like they forgot that the world was 258 00:11:20,274 --> 00:11:23,034 Speaker 1: going to hear it. Not because they're dropping like salacious 259 00:11:23,074 --> 00:11:25,954 Speaker 1: information about like other famous people or anything, just because 260 00:11:25,954 --> 00:11:28,674 Speaker 1: they got on such a crazy tangent, so funny. 261 00:11:28,714 --> 00:11:31,474 Speaker 2: So I'm going to do a quick little recap, yeah, 262 00:11:31,514 --> 00:11:34,074 Speaker 2: of the interview. I've pulled out my favorite quote. Okay, 263 00:11:34,354 --> 00:11:38,434 Speaker 2: so first question Chapel asks Scissor, do you believe in fairies? 264 00:11:38,754 --> 00:11:41,514 Speaker 1: So important? And that kind of just sets the tone 265 00:11:41,554 --> 00:11:43,554 Speaker 1: for the whole so important and not not. Can I 266 00:11:43,594 --> 00:11:45,034 Speaker 1: just I'm going to put my journalists hat on for 267 00:11:45,074 --> 00:11:47,594 Speaker 1: one second. I was a bit annoyed at Chapel when 268 00:11:47,634 --> 00:11:49,794 Speaker 1: she's like, so, I just get asked the same question 269 00:11:49,874 --> 00:11:52,074 Speaker 1: all the time, and I've done some research to Scissor, 270 00:11:52,154 --> 00:11:54,194 Speaker 1: so here's what I'm gonna ask you. And I was like, 271 00:11:54,354 --> 00:11:56,834 Speaker 1: if I walked into an interview and asked you if 272 00:11:56,834 --> 00:11:59,914 Speaker 1: fairies are real, your publicist would make me leave. So 273 00:11:59,994 --> 00:12:02,154 Speaker 1: don't say that we're not doing our jobs when you 274 00:12:02,234 --> 00:12:05,674 Speaker 1: have free to ask you about fairies. Free creative rain here. 275 00:12:06,074 --> 00:12:08,674 Speaker 3: Also, your public just got mad and we'd probably get fired. 276 00:12:08,914 --> 00:12:10,994 Speaker 1: Yes, if I came back to work with that, So 277 00:12:11,154 --> 00:12:13,074 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would have because I have a 278 00:12:13,074 --> 00:12:15,074 Speaker 1: lot of thoughts on this. Do you think fairies are real? 279 00:12:16,954 --> 00:12:19,194 Speaker 1: Can I just say, don't say? You can't if you say, 280 00:12:19,234 --> 00:12:22,994 Speaker 1: ever say the word fairies aren't? Like out loud? Did 281 00:12:22,994 --> 00:12:26,394 Speaker 1: you know a fairy dies? This is the information they 282 00:12:26,394 --> 00:12:27,914 Speaker 1: didn't have in there, and you have to clap to 283 00:12:28,114 --> 00:12:31,354 Speaker 1: you have to clap instantly to bring them back to life. Okay, 284 00:12:31,434 --> 00:12:33,394 Speaker 1: you didn't say it, So I'm just saying, don't mess 285 00:12:33,434 --> 00:12:38,034 Speaker 1: around with that, Emily. It's not a joke. Okay, that's 286 00:12:38,034 --> 00:12:40,434 Speaker 1: from the original Peter Pan story that was written hundreds 287 00:12:40,434 --> 00:12:45,314 Speaker 1: of years ago. My well things anyway, they're talking about fairies. 288 00:12:45,354 --> 00:12:46,874 Speaker 1: I didn't bring it up. I don't know why you're 289 00:12:47,114 --> 00:12:47,514 Speaker 1: so weird. 290 00:12:47,594 --> 00:12:49,794 Speaker 3: I wish we swapped roles were reaping this. 291 00:12:50,994 --> 00:12:55,074 Speaker 1: Is so I was like, it was like I wasn't 292 00:12:55,074 --> 00:12:57,834 Speaker 1: even gonna spend time on the fairy. I thought that 293 00:12:57,914 --> 00:12:59,634 Speaker 1: was the main part of the interview. They went for 294 00:12:59,674 --> 00:13:01,994 Speaker 1: so long on that they did you have an answer? 295 00:13:01,994 --> 00:13:03,554 Speaker 1: But that's fine. But like I said, don't. 296 00:13:03,954 --> 00:13:07,754 Speaker 2: Scissors like answer was Chapel asked, do you really even fairies? 297 00:13:07,794 --> 00:13:10,914 Speaker 2: And just said I do. For a while, I was like, 298 00:13:10,994 --> 00:13:13,674 Speaker 2: am I fae? True Blood really did a number on me? 299 00:13:14,714 --> 00:13:18,074 Speaker 1: Same girl, you're also a big fan of our I know, 300 00:13:18,354 --> 00:13:20,394 Speaker 1: don't even can't talk about that? What that? 301 00:13:20,594 --> 00:13:21,274 Speaker 3: How did that make me? 302 00:13:21,874 --> 00:13:24,474 Speaker 1: Actually? Can I just say all jokes aside? I have 303 00:13:24,714 --> 00:13:27,354 Speaker 1: never related to a celebrity as much as I related 304 00:13:27,394 --> 00:13:30,474 Speaker 1: to Scissor in this piece, because I for a long 305 00:13:30,514 --> 00:13:32,514 Speaker 1: time and I still do again, I'm not going to 306 00:13:32,554 --> 00:13:35,474 Speaker 1: say that loud, but you know, fairies, fay folklore. True 307 00:13:35,474 --> 00:13:38,394 Speaker 1: Blood also messed me up. Plus she names the biggest 308 00:13:38,394 --> 00:13:41,474 Speaker 1: TV shows that kind of shaped her as Xena Warrior, 309 00:13:41,514 --> 00:13:45,674 Speaker 1: Princess Hercules and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and they obviously 310 00:13:45,714 --> 00:13:47,674 Speaker 1: Buffy the Vampire Slayer best show of all time, but 311 00:13:47,794 --> 00:13:50,914 Speaker 1: Xena and Hercules like growing up me and Scissor our life. 312 00:13:51,034 --> 00:13:52,834 Speaker 2: Imagine the interview you could have with Scissor. 313 00:13:52,874 --> 00:13:54,754 Speaker 1: Oh we would? I mean that would have been way weirder. 314 00:13:54,914 --> 00:13:57,594 Speaker 3: Maybe she could be on the spill I would. I 315 00:13:57,634 --> 00:13:58,554 Speaker 3: would be behind the camera. 316 00:13:58,554 --> 00:14:01,114 Speaker 1: It's an open invitation, but it would just be we 317 00:14:01,114 --> 00:14:04,074 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk about musical Superstar and Mighty Thing. We would 318 00:14:04,154 --> 00:14:08,234 Speaker 1: just talk about the intricacies of like the Xena plotline, yeah, 319 00:14:08,274 --> 00:14:10,634 Speaker 1: and how the Hercules world bled into that, and then 320 00:14:10,754 --> 00:14:13,834 Speaker 1: obviously Buffy and then Fairies. She even talks about summoning 321 00:14:13,874 --> 00:14:15,833 Speaker 1: a Kasher at one stage, and I was like, he 322 00:14:15,954 --> 00:14:18,154 Speaker 1: was a very ancient vampire. I was all lit on that. 323 00:14:18,394 --> 00:14:19,034 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 324 00:14:19,434 --> 00:14:21,994 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you talked about the fairy stuff because 325 00:14:21,994 --> 00:14:24,034 Speaker 2: I literally glazed over that completely. 326 00:14:24,194 --> 00:14:26,274 Speaker 1: You and I look for very different things in an interview. 327 00:14:26,514 --> 00:14:28,114 Speaker 3: Sissa is very woo wu. 328 00:14:28,314 --> 00:14:30,034 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you didn't know that about her, you 329 00:14:30,034 --> 00:14:33,194 Speaker 2: would find this interview so jarring because I think it 330 00:14:33,274 --> 00:14:36,154 Speaker 2: is a huge contrast between her music and like the 331 00:14:36,194 --> 00:14:38,674 Speaker 2: brand she puts out there for the public, versus which 332 00:14:38,714 --> 00:14:41,354 Speaker 2: actually talks about when I went to the first time 333 00:14:41,354 --> 00:14:43,074 Speaker 2: I realized was woo wu was when I went to 334 00:14:43,114 --> 00:14:46,674 Speaker 2: her first concert in Australia, which was years ago. I 335 00:14:46,674 --> 00:14:48,634 Speaker 2: think the second concert was sometime last year, but the 336 00:14:48,634 --> 00:14:51,274 Speaker 2: first one was years ago. And at the end of 337 00:14:51,274 --> 00:14:53,874 Speaker 2: her concert, she just made us walse and in silence 338 00:14:54,434 --> 00:14:55,714 Speaker 2: and do some meditation. 339 00:14:56,554 --> 00:14:57,714 Speaker 1: She started just going. 340 00:14:59,234 --> 00:15:01,074 Speaker 2: And it's just like everyone now, and then we all 341 00:15:01,114 --> 00:15:02,954 Speaker 2: just and it was a moshpit. We were all standing 342 00:15:03,034 --> 00:15:06,234 Speaker 2: up like statis, Oh sorry, that sounds like a girl 343 00:15:06,274 --> 00:15:09,474 Speaker 2: that was raised Xena and True Blood and fairy books. 344 00:15:09,514 --> 00:15:10,634 Speaker 3: That's so funny. 345 00:15:11,314 --> 00:15:14,674 Speaker 2: She also talked about Lizzo, about how she met Lizzo 346 00:15:14,714 --> 00:15:16,234 Speaker 2: through like a natural connection. 347 00:15:16,394 --> 00:15:17,594 Speaker 3: She's very wooo. She said. 348 00:15:17,994 --> 00:15:20,874 Speaker 2: The other day I went to Lizzard's house. My tummy 349 00:15:20,954 --> 00:15:23,234 Speaker 2: was hurting because I ate too much, and she gave 350 00:15:23,274 --> 00:15:24,914 Speaker 2: me a mew mew and we just laid in the 351 00:15:24,994 --> 00:15:27,954 Speaker 2: yard and did nothing, and I was like, Yeah, this 352 00:15:27,994 --> 00:15:29,714 Speaker 2: is what the fuck friendship is about. 353 00:15:30,114 --> 00:15:33,714 Speaker 1: That's actually so true. Again, Sissa the most relatable celebrity 354 00:15:33,714 --> 00:15:35,474 Speaker 1: because everyone has these friends that you're like, we can 355 00:15:35,474 --> 00:15:37,114 Speaker 1: go meet for dinner, we can go to an event, 356 00:15:37,154 --> 00:15:38,994 Speaker 1: but all you really want as you get older is 357 00:15:38,994 --> 00:15:40,514 Speaker 1: a friend to come lie on the couch with you, 358 00:15:40,874 --> 00:15:42,434 Speaker 1: or lie in the backout with you. Because that's like 359 00:15:42,434 --> 00:15:45,594 Speaker 1: a very. 360 00:15:45,194 --> 00:15:46,354 Speaker 3: That's really beautiful. 361 00:15:46,594 --> 00:15:49,794 Speaker 2: She briefly talked about the Bible and Howard's witchy but 362 00:15:49,874 --> 00:15:50,794 Speaker 2: not witchcraft. 363 00:15:51,074 --> 00:15:51,274 Speaker 1: Yeah. 364 00:15:51,754 --> 00:15:52,834 Speaker 3: I think she's really true. 365 00:15:52,914 --> 00:15:53,954 Speaker 1: She saved herself there. 366 00:15:54,314 --> 00:15:55,874 Speaker 3: She really backtracked there. 367 00:15:55,954 --> 00:15:58,634 Speaker 1: The Bible is witchy, that's so true, and no one's 368 00:15:58,674 --> 00:16:03,394 Speaker 1: been brave enough to say it until now the ogi witch. 369 00:16:03,834 --> 00:16:05,954 Speaker 2: Okay, this is the part that I feel like everyone 370 00:16:06,074 --> 00:16:07,994 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, now we've got yeah thing, now we've 371 00:16:07,994 --> 00:16:11,514 Speaker 2: got something. So Chapel actually opened up first about how 372 00:16:11,554 --> 00:16:13,794 Speaker 2: hard it was to be hated not for your art 373 00:16:13,874 --> 00:16:17,874 Speaker 2: before the person who people think you are, and she said, 374 00:16:18,194 --> 00:16:21,354 Speaker 2: I didn't care about backlash until people started hating me 375 00:16:21,474 --> 00:16:24,074 Speaker 2: for me and not my art. When it comes to 376 00:16:24,074 --> 00:16:26,874 Speaker 2: my art, I'm like, bitch, you can think whatever you want, 377 00:16:27,154 --> 00:16:30,594 Speaker 2: but when it comes to me and my personality, it's like, damn, 378 00:16:30,794 --> 00:16:33,634 Speaker 2: am I the most insufferable bitch of our generation? 379 00:16:34,354 --> 00:16:35,314 Speaker 3: And then Sissa. 380 00:16:35,074 --> 00:16:37,434 Speaker 2: Jumps in and she's like, no, because if you are, 381 00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:38,674 Speaker 2: then I really am. 382 00:16:38,954 --> 00:16:40,194 Speaker 3: I really do be crying. 383 00:16:42,114 --> 00:16:45,754 Speaker 1: That's so interesting because like Chapel has become like that 384 00:16:45,794 --> 00:16:47,634 Speaker 1: person where now you see headlines from her, and I 385 00:16:47,634 --> 00:16:49,234 Speaker 1: think a lot of people kind of arol and be 386 00:16:49,274 --> 00:16:51,954 Speaker 1: like oh. She complains that everything she does want to 387 00:16:51,954 --> 00:16:53,594 Speaker 1: go here, She doesn't want fans to talk to her, 388 00:16:53,594 --> 00:16:55,394 Speaker 1: she does want to be the Grammys, she doesn't want 389 00:16:55,394 --> 00:16:58,154 Speaker 1: to do this. She yells at photographers like and I 390 00:16:58,194 --> 00:17:01,114 Speaker 1: always just thought that that she just didn't care or 391 00:17:01,114 --> 00:17:03,794 Speaker 1: she quite liked that everyone was like, she is so 392 00:17:03,874 --> 00:17:05,954 Speaker 1: kind of separate from this that she's just her own 393 00:17:05,994 --> 00:17:08,754 Speaker 1: person so to hear, and obviously that's a very human thing, 394 00:17:08,834 --> 00:17:12,554 Speaker 1: but to hear that she's actually upset that people dislike 395 00:17:12,634 --> 00:17:15,754 Speaker 1: her core personality, or at least the personality that we're 396 00:17:15,754 --> 00:17:17,994 Speaker 1: getting to see through like the snippets and headlines, it's 397 00:17:18,074 --> 00:17:19,754 Speaker 1: like quite interesting, it. 398 00:17:19,834 --> 00:17:20,794 Speaker 3: Is really interesting. 399 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:23,954 Speaker 2: But to be fair, like I felt the same way 400 00:17:24,354 --> 00:17:26,554 Speaker 2: to its chatter, because I felt like I did see 401 00:17:27,194 --> 00:17:30,674 Speaker 2: what her personality is like outside of her brand when 402 00:17:30,674 --> 00:17:33,114 Speaker 2: she would like post all those tiktoks about talking and 403 00:17:33,154 --> 00:17:36,114 Speaker 2: obviously she wasn't a time where she was so terrified, 404 00:17:36,234 --> 00:17:37,794 Speaker 2: and we talked about it on the Spill. We'll link 405 00:17:37,834 --> 00:17:39,674 Speaker 2: that episode in our show notes, where we talked about 406 00:17:39,674 --> 00:17:43,474 Speaker 2: how she was at that part of Celebritism where she 407 00:17:43,594 --> 00:17:46,313 Speaker 2: was getting so so famous but also didn't have like 408 00:17:46,594 --> 00:17:49,714 Speaker 2: the security and stuff so like her actual I think 409 00:17:49,714 --> 00:17:52,754 Speaker 2: with celebrities, when they like shoot up into stardom, that 410 00:17:52,794 --> 00:17:56,154 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily reflect that they can afford that lifestyle. 411 00:17:56,274 --> 00:17:58,714 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it takes a while for the infrastructure around 412 00:17:58,714 --> 00:18:02,114 Speaker 1: them really to catch up in terms of having like, yeah, 413 00:18:02,154 --> 00:18:04,834 Speaker 1: like a full security team or just having like that 414 00:18:04,954 --> 00:18:06,474 Speaker 1: web set up where it's like we can take you 415 00:18:06,514 --> 00:18:08,754 Speaker 1: from like the it playing to the hotel to the jet, 416 00:18:08,794 --> 00:18:10,793 Speaker 1: like you'd have that sort of stuff, and you know, 417 00:18:10,954 --> 00:18:12,594 Speaker 1: sort of looking after them like you'd have that sort 418 00:18:12,634 --> 00:18:15,034 Speaker 1: of stuff if you're like officially on tour. But where 419 00:18:15,074 --> 00:18:17,154 Speaker 1: she was getting like harassed in the street was when 420 00:18:17,194 --> 00:18:19,074 Speaker 1: she was walking from her apartment to the shops and 421 00:18:19,074 --> 00:18:20,793 Speaker 1: all that sort of thing, because which I am on 422 00:18:20,794 --> 00:18:22,553 Speaker 1: her side about that, people coming up and grabbing you 423 00:18:22,594 --> 00:18:24,114 Speaker 1: and screaming your faces a lot. 424 00:18:24,354 --> 00:18:27,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think because she probably didn't have like 425 00:18:27,154 --> 00:18:29,594 Speaker 2: the big pr setup for that, she had to herself 426 00:18:29,914 --> 00:18:32,513 Speaker 2: go on her own TikTok and talk about like stop 427 00:18:32,674 --> 00:18:35,594 Speaker 2: stalking me, like it's really really scary. And I think 428 00:18:35,754 --> 00:18:38,594 Speaker 2: that gave allowance to people to kind of dig in 429 00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:41,714 Speaker 2: on her personality because she was able to show that vulnerable. 430 00:18:41,314 --> 00:18:41,714 Speaker 3: Side of her. 431 00:18:41,794 --> 00:18:43,434 Speaker 2: So I kind of agree, like it would have been 432 00:18:43,514 --> 00:18:46,034 Speaker 2: such a bad time. And I now think she has 433 00:18:46,074 --> 00:18:48,594 Speaker 2: stepped away from the spotlight in terms of her personal 434 00:18:48,674 --> 00:18:51,154 Speaker 2: branding and it's just like focusing on music and things 435 00:18:51,194 --> 00:18:54,034 Speaker 2: like that. But this entire interview is just like two 436 00:18:54,074 --> 00:18:57,874 Speaker 2: friends catching up even though they said they haven't probably met, Yeah, 437 00:18:57,874 --> 00:19:00,314 Speaker 2: but I feel like they're both in very similar stages 438 00:19:00,474 --> 00:19:03,154 Speaker 2: of their career where they have a core group of 439 00:19:03,194 --> 00:19:05,274 Speaker 2: diehard fans that have had for such a long time 440 00:19:05,354 --> 00:19:08,154 Speaker 2: and now they've just exploded the world and so many 441 00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:10,514 Speaker 2: people know who they are. And will put a link 442 00:19:10,554 --> 00:19:12,353 Speaker 2: to the whole interview on our show notes because if 443 00:19:12,354 --> 00:19:14,554 Speaker 2: you want to laugh, it is just so funny. 444 00:19:14,314 --> 00:19:16,634 Speaker 1: So good, And if anyone wants to talk about fairy law, 445 00:19:16,714 --> 00:19:17,714 Speaker 1: please reach out. 446 00:19:17,794 --> 00:19:20,114 Speaker 3: Please reach out to either LB or scissor. 447 00:19:19,994 --> 00:19:22,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, and both of us together, we would love to 448 00:19:22,194 --> 00:19:24,273 Speaker 1: keep this conversation going. It so rarely gets brought up 449 00:19:24,314 --> 00:19:24,994 Speaker 1: on this podcast. 450 00:19:26,594 --> 00:19:31,834 Speaker 2: Okay, so the brand new season of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders 451 00:19:32,114 --> 00:19:33,674 Speaker 2: has just dropped. 452 00:19:34,114 --> 00:19:36,354 Speaker 3: We're a part of each other's lives forever. 453 00:19:36,514 --> 00:19:38,914 Speaker 1: You know what, We're going to do, each other's weather. 454 00:19:40,994 --> 00:19:43,353 Speaker 1: You're like, when we make this team, we're gonna make 455 00:19:43,354 --> 00:19:46,594 Speaker 1: it together because we're such good friends. But then it 456 00:19:46,594 --> 00:19:47,834 Speaker 1: doesn't always end up like that. 457 00:19:51,594 --> 00:19:54,634 Speaker 2: We are really excited that there's a lot of new girls. 458 00:19:56,194 --> 00:19:56,674 Speaker 3: Every year. 459 00:19:56,754 --> 00:19:59,114 Speaker 1: The talent just gets better and better and better. 460 00:20:00,074 --> 00:20:02,553 Speaker 2: We've always been told there's one hundred more girls I 461 00:20:02,554 --> 00:20:03,594 Speaker 2: would love to do this job. 462 00:20:03,834 --> 00:20:06,434 Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna say, well, they're just cheerleaders. We're a really 463 00:20:06,474 --> 00:20:07,074 Speaker 3: good cheerleader. 464 00:20:07,474 --> 00:20:20,514 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it worked costs. 465 00:20:14,434 --> 00:20:17,314 Speaker 2: And I was so excited, and it only dropped last 466 00:20:17,394 --> 00:20:19,954 Speaker 2: night and I only have two more episodes to watch. 467 00:20:20,194 --> 00:20:22,314 Speaker 2: I literally binged the whole thing from like I think 468 00:20:22,394 --> 00:20:23,794 Speaker 2: five to ten pm. 469 00:20:23,594 --> 00:20:25,154 Speaker 3: Because it's like an hour long episodes. 470 00:20:25,234 --> 00:20:26,914 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's seven of them. But also I would 471 00:20:26,914 --> 00:20:29,634 Speaker 1: have watched twenty So did you watch all of them? 472 00:20:29,754 --> 00:20:31,994 Speaker 1: I've watched all of it twice, not last night, not 473 00:20:32,074 --> 00:20:34,513 Speaker 1: last night. That crazy No, No, Netflix gave us the 474 00:20:34,554 --> 00:20:37,273 Speaker 1: screen is sorry, you should have given my time, I 475 00:20:37,314 --> 00:20:38,114 Speaker 1: should give you my name. 476 00:20:38,154 --> 00:20:39,034 Speaker 3: That's what I read. 477 00:20:39,234 --> 00:20:41,554 Speaker 1: No, I no, I'm sorry. But also we couldn't talk 478 00:20:41,554 --> 00:20:44,874 Speaker 1: about it because Netflix also have an embargo and so 479 00:20:44,914 --> 00:20:47,154 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to review it until it actually comes out. 480 00:20:47,274 --> 00:20:49,154 Speaker 1: So but yeah, in the last week or so, I've 481 00:20:49,154 --> 00:20:51,634 Speaker 1: been full DCC in my home. Well, I just sat 482 00:20:51,674 --> 00:20:54,114 Speaker 1: down one night to watch it, just the first couple 483 00:20:54,114 --> 00:20:56,114 Speaker 1: of episodes, and I started them quite late. I'm like, oh, 484 00:20:56,114 --> 00:20:57,994 Speaker 1: I'll watch the rest tomorrow, and I ended up binging 485 00:20:57,994 --> 00:21:00,954 Speaker 1: it all the way through till two am, only because 486 00:21:01,554 --> 00:21:04,434 Speaker 1: the last couple of episodes in particular, get very dark. 487 00:21:04,474 --> 00:21:06,474 Speaker 1: So this season, she said, obviously, like when the first 488 00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:09,434 Speaker 1: season of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders came out, it became this 489 00:21:09,554 --> 00:21:13,273 Speaker 1: huge worldwide hit. They'd had a TV show for about 490 00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:15,594 Speaker 1: eight years or so on like a smaller network in 491 00:21:15,634 --> 00:21:19,033 Speaker 1: the US called Making the Team, which was chronicling like 492 00:21:19,074 --> 00:21:22,274 Speaker 1: the you know, audition process to get into Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 493 00:21:22,834 --> 00:21:26,594 Speaker 1: It's super upsetting to watch. So I don't really recommend ye. 494 00:21:26,874 --> 00:21:29,074 Speaker 1: I've said this before, but it makes Top Model look 495 00:21:29,234 --> 00:21:32,194 Speaker 1: like an inclusive space where like hugs are given out. 496 00:21:32,434 --> 00:21:33,754 Speaker 1: It's so brutal. 497 00:21:34,074 --> 00:21:37,394 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're the tone difference between Making the Team 498 00:21:37,434 --> 00:21:37,954 Speaker 2: and this one. 499 00:21:38,074 --> 00:21:40,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's because the Netflix team and the 500 00:21:40,154 --> 00:21:42,314 Speaker 1: documentary team that work on this are trying to show 501 00:21:42,354 --> 00:21:44,274 Speaker 1: a different It's not meant to be that old school 502 00:21:44,354 --> 00:21:46,674 Speaker 1: kind of like women getting embarrassed on TV, even though 503 00:21:46,674 --> 00:21:48,554 Speaker 1: we see that. It's trying to show a more kind 504 00:21:48,594 --> 00:21:51,553 Speaker 1: of like holistic look at this huge organization, all the 505 00:21:51,554 --> 00:21:54,594 Speaker 1: people who are part of it. So season one introduced 506 00:21:54,634 --> 00:21:56,754 Speaker 1: a lot of people around the world to this team, 507 00:21:56,834 --> 00:22:00,234 Speaker 1: and you followed them from their auditions right through to 508 00:22:00,274 --> 00:22:03,033 Speaker 1: the final game, and like the uniform, they bring their 509 00:22:03,114 --> 00:22:05,714 Speaker 1: uniforms in and return them. This season follows a really 510 00:22:05,754 --> 00:22:08,914 Speaker 1: similar tract, although they've just auditioned. I do believe for 511 00:22:08,994 --> 00:22:10,954 Speaker 1: this new team, all the auditions are happening at the 512 00:22:10,994 --> 00:22:14,074 Speaker 1: moment for the new Dallas Cowboys team for the year ahead. 513 00:22:14,474 --> 00:22:17,033 Speaker 1: And this season that we're watching is from like the 514 00:22:17,074 --> 00:22:19,474 Speaker 1: past year. So there's a lot of things we already 515 00:22:19,554 --> 00:22:21,674 Speaker 1: knew because you know, we've been seeing it on socials 516 00:22:21,674 --> 00:22:23,474 Speaker 1: and videos and stuff for a year. So we knew 517 00:22:23,474 --> 00:22:27,114 Speaker 1: that Kelly Valaries and Charlie Barbie, who were two big 518 00:22:27,554 --> 00:22:30,513 Speaker 1: faces in the first season and were cut at the end. 519 00:22:30,594 --> 00:22:33,114 Speaker 2: No, after Kelly dyed a hair for it. 520 00:22:33,274 --> 00:22:35,474 Speaker 1: I know that was so top one quote. But also 521 00:22:35,514 --> 00:22:37,674 Speaker 1: she looks way better as a brute does look good. 522 00:22:37,954 --> 00:22:39,513 Speaker 3: But I feel been unpopular opinion. 523 00:22:39,594 --> 00:22:45,594 Speaker 1: Oh what, I think all women look better as brunettes. Really, yeah, 524 00:22:45,634 --> 00:22:46,634 Speaker 1: all the blonde women in the. 525 00:22:46,554 --> 00:22:47,674 Speaker 3: World, No, I think all. 526 00:22:47,954 --> 00:22:49,674 Speaker 2: I think all natural blondes look better. 527 00:22:49,754 --> 00:22:51,234 Speaker 3: I'm like, A, I don't. 528 00:22:51,034 --> 00:22:52,434 Speaker 1: Know, No, she's naturally a brunette. 529 00:22:52,474 --> 00:22:53,514 Speaker 3: This is yeah, that's what I mean. 530 00:22:53,634 --> 00:22:55,794 Speaker 2: I think, like and this is me as well, because 531 00:22:55,794 --> 00:22:58,074 Speaker 2: I also dye my hair, but I think everyone looks 532 00:22:58,714 --> 00:23:00,074 Speaker 2: best in their natural hair. 533 00:23:00,274 --> 00:23:02,754 Speaker 1: Well that's what again, this is definitely a hair dresses 534 00:23:02,794 --> 00:23:05,434 Speaker 1: podcast now, because that's what a lot of hairstyles say, 535 00:23:05,514 --> 00:23:07,754 Speaker 1: is that you should only go one shape lighter or 536 00:23:07,834 --> 00:23:10,514 Speaker 1: darker than your original. Otherwise you just completely like mess 537 00:23:10,554 --> 00:23:11,314 Speaker 1: with your features. 538 00:23:11,674 --> 00:23:13,354 Speaker 2: Oh I should have just said it that way. That 539 00:23:13,794 --> 00:23:16,394 Speaker 2: sounds so much more profession I was like, all women 540 00:23:16,394 --> 00:23:17,794 Speaker 2: should just stick to their natural hair. 541 00:23:17,874 --> 00:23:20,714 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't diet, it's weird, very anti feminist. That's obviously 542 00:23:20,754 --> 00:23:24,394 Speaker 1: a joke. So that, Yeah, they went through the whole 543 00:23:24,394 --> 00:23:26,994 Speaker 1: like Kelly went brunette. That was a huge storyline. It 544 00:23:27,034 --> 00:23:28,874 Speaker 1: was kind of hard for Charlie because last year she 545 00:23:28,954 --> 00:23:30,553 Speaker 1: came in and there were and she was doing her 546 00:23:31,154 --> 00:23:34,273 Speaker 1: dance routine to get through the finals, and all the 547 00:23:34,354 --> 00:23:37,194 Speaker 1: judges were like, oh, we've got a tidy we can 548 00:23:37,234 --> 00:23:39,434 Speaker 1: tidy her up a bit, like she's so messy looking 549 00:23:39,594 --> 00:23:42,594 Speaker 1: and like I'm just looking at this beautiful woman dancing 550 00:23:42,634 --> 00:23:45,994 Speaker 1: with this beautiful long cascading red hair. And then when 551 00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:48,313 Speaker 1: she and Kelly came in this year, they critiqued their 552 00:23:48,354 --> 00:23:50,273 Speaker 1: looks again, but she with a Kelly like she's up 553 00:23:50,314 --> 00:23:52,794 Speaker 1: there dancing and doing this beautiful solo and one of 554 00:23:52,794 --> 00:23:54,793 Speaker 1: the male judges, who I don't know if he's the 555 00:23:54,834 --> 00:23:59,714 Speaker 1: boot maker or the meteorologist. All those men with jobs 556 00:23:59,754 --> 00:24:02,114 Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with cheerleading come in and 557 00:24:02,154 --> 00:24:03,514 Speaker 1: give their critiques. 558 00:24:03,074 --> 00:24:04,794 Speaker 3: And they're so passionate about it. 559 00:24:04,994 --> 00:24:06,954 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was like, she needs a monk over, 560 00:24:07,194 --> 00:24:09,754 Speaker 1: and Kelly's like, she's how to make over. And I 561 00:24:09,874 --> 00:24:11,994 Speaker 1: was like, to think of Kelly watching this back. So 562 00:24:12,274 --> 00:24:15,033 Speaker 1: they make the team this time, yeah, which was really lovely. 563 00:24:15,354 --> 00:24:18,073 Speaker 1: I don't usually get emotional in these things, but and 564 00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:20,314 Speaker 1: I also have just thoughts of whether these women should 565 00:24:20,314 --> 00:24:23,634 Speaker 1: be doing this at all. But when Kelly and Charlie, 566 00:24:23,674 --> 00:24:25,434 Speaker 1: like when they were announced that they had made the team, 567 00:24:25,514 --> 00:24:28,474 Speaker 1: they both just started sobbing emotional, like. 568 00:24:28,874 --> 00:24:32,313 Speaker 2: Their parents were sobbing on the phone, and both of 569 00:24:32,314 --> 00:24:35,274 Speaker 2: them because they got cut in the first season. Even 570 00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:39,914 Speaker 2: the video footage of them watching the first season and 571 00:24:40,034 --> 00:24:43,754 Speaker 2: just like absolutely just literally watching each other get bereted 572 00:24:44,074 --> 00:24:48,474 Speaker 2: basically was just so heartbreaking. Also, we did see a 573 00:24:48,474 --> 00:24:51,154 Speaker 2: little snippet of this, I guess one of the biggest 574 00:24:51,194 --> 00:24:55,114 Speaker 2: stars of the first season, Victoria Yes, who kind of 575 00:24:55,194 --> 00:24:57,674 Speaker 2: left and decided she didn't want to do this whole 576 00:24:57,714 --> 00:24:59,794 Speaker 2: process again, and she goes to New York to become 577 00:24:59,794 --> 00:25:03,114 Speaker 2: a roquette. And what I found really interesting is that 578 00:25:03,314 --> 00:25:06,154 Speaker 2: her mum, who was an ex Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and 579 00:25:06,274 --> 00:25:09,313 Speaker 2: so she's a legacy, her mom said that her sisters 580 00:25:09,314 --> 00:25:12,234 Speaker 2: didn't do the job, which is like all the rookies 581 00:25:12,274 --> 00:25:14,594 Speaker 2: apparently are meant to like stay together and stay in 582 00:25:14,634 --> 00:25:17,394 Speaker 2: the sisterhood and push each other up and take care 583 00:25:17,434 --> 00:25:19,714 Speaker 2: of each other when you don't make it. And I 584 00:25:19,754 --> 00:25:23,514 Speaker 2: think they alluded to the fact that she wasn't well liked, yes, 585 00:25:23,594 --> 00:25:25,793 Speaker 2: and we also saw it in season one that she 586 00:25:25,794 --> 00:25:27,554 Speaker 2: didn't really have any close friends. 587 00:25:27,274 --> 00:25:30,194 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That was the interesting thing about season two 588 00:25:30,274 --> 00:25:33,073 Speaker 1: is that they often reference the TV show, like they 589 00:25:33,154 --> 00:25:36,194 Speaker 1: referenced season one and how big it's become, to the 590 00:25:36,234 --> 00:25:38,954 Speaker 1: point where at some stages they played clips of famous people, 591 00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:41,114 Speaker 1: like they played the clip of Chrissy Teagan doing the 592 00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:44,994 Speaker 1: doing Thunderstruck and what Will Farrell saying in interviews like 593 00:25:45,074 --> 00:25:48,314 Speaker 1: have you seen the DCC show. It's incredible. So it's 594 00:25:48,354 --> 00:25:51,154 Speaker 1: fascinating all this sort of thing. And then you also 595 00:25:51,314 --> 00:25:54,954 Speaker 1: see the girls watching the first season, and it's really 596 00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:57,273 Speaker 1: telling that there's a whole bunch of girls with all 597 00:25:57,274 --> 00:25:59,793 Speaker 1: their partners and they're watching it together and screaming and 598 00:25:59,874 --> 00:26:03,034 Speaker 1: laughing and like clapping because they're loving it. And then 599 00:26:03,034 --> 00:26:05,274 Speaker 1: it cuts to Victoria who said that she walked out 600 00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:06,954 Speaker 1: after the first episode. So don't know if she was 601 00:26:06,994 --> 00:26:08,474 Speaker 1: in the room with those girls or she was like 602 00:26:08,514 --> 00:26:10,714 Speaker 1: out of viewing or something, but she said that she 603 00:26:10,754 --> 00:26:13,394 Speaker 1: just couldn't watch it. It was too upsetting for her. And 604 00:26:13,434 --> 00:26:17,874 Speaker 1: then also that storyline carries on with Kelly who's the director, 605 00:26:17,914 --> 00:26:21,474 Speaker 1: and Judy who's the head choreographer, who are both cheerleaders themselves, 606 00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:25,194 Speaker 1: and Kelly and Victoria's mum were in the same class 607 00:26:25,194 --> 00:26:28,674 Speaker 1: together and really close friends, and they have a similar 608 00:26:28,714 --> 00:26:31,634 Speaker 1: situation this year where one of the assistant choreographers, her 609 00:26:31,714 --> 00:26:35,954 Speaker 1: daughter Dayton, is auditioning and it's really hard to watch 610 00:26:35,954 --> 00:26:37,954 Speaker 1: because she first or just over six years ago and 611 00:26:38,034 --> 00:26:40,033 Speaker 1: she still had it made the team. There was all 612 00:26:40,074 --> 00:26:43,274 Speaker 1: this pressure on her because her mum is like in there, 613 00:26:43,394 --> 00:26:46,194 Speaker 1: you know, like choreographing the dancers and everything. And you 614 00:26:46,274 --> 00:26:48,354 Speaker 1: see Kelly and Judy have this little side chat where 615 00:26:48,354 --> 00:26:50,674 Speaker 1: they go they're talking about whether or not to cut her, 616 00:26:50,714 --> 00:26:52,714 Speaker 1: and they're like we don't want another Tina situation, and 617 00:26:52,754 --> 00:26:55,594 Speaker 1: Tina is Victoria's mother, so I think they're not friends 618 00:26:55,634 --> 00:26:58,034 Speaker 1: anymore after all of that has blown up, so you'll 619 00:26:58,034 --> 00:27:00,194 Speaker 1: see you didn't catch on to that, So you're seeing 620 00:27:00,194 --> 00:27:02,514 Speaker 1: all that drama from the first season and the fact 621 00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:05,634 Speaker 1: that they're so famous come into the second season. Also 622 00:27:05,674 --> 00:27:06,634 Speaker 1: about their pay. 623 00:27:06,834 --> 00:27:10,273 Speaker 2: Yes, the pay is a big thing. Which I actually 624 00:27:10,314 --> 00:27:13,394 Speaker 2: loved about this season is that you actually see the 625 00:27:13,434 --> 00:27:17,234 Speaker 2: girls more on a personal level. And I feel like 626 00:27:17,274 --> 00:27:19,874 Speaker 2: in season one it did a bit of a disservice 627 00:27:20,034 --> 00:27:24,994 Speaker 2: to like show the girls beyond their looks and their motions. 628 00:27:25,074 --> 00:27:27,434 Speaker 2: Oh okay, And I think season two really honed in 629 00:27:27,434 --> 00:27:30,674 Speaker 2: on like these are really smart women, and we kind 630 00:27:30,674 --> 00:27:32,833 Speaker 2: of got a glimpse at it with like Aneesia, Like 631 00:27:32,834 --> 00:27:34,674 Speaker 2: we saw like they all had to do so many 632 00:27:34,674 --> 00:27:37,074 Speaker 2: different jobs, like you were a dentist, Like they had 633 00:27:37,114 --> 00:27:39,994 Speaker 2: to work part time just because they couldn't afford to 634 00:27:40,154 --> 00:27:44,034 Speaker 2: just be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. And I think that 635 00:27:44,234 --> 00:27:46,914 Speaker 2: was the biggest takeaway from season one that everyone was 636 00:27:46,914 --> 00:27:49,914 Speaker 2: talking about how these women have to go through these 637 00:27:50,154 --> 00:27:54,914 Speaker 2: excruciating processes about like not just their performance as a dancer, 638 00:27:55,034 --> 00:27:58,154 Speaker 2: but also how they look like, what they eat, like, 639 00:27:58,234 --> 00:28:01,474 Speaker 2: what injections they have, like, how they're like hair color, 640 00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:04,634 Speaker 2: what they like, body looks like, what they fit into. 641 00:28:05,074 --> 00:28:07,954 Speaker 2: If they're smiling at the right time, they're like looking 642 00:28:07,994 --> 00:28:11,194 Speaker 2: sassy at the right time, and just like so such 643 00:28:11,234 --> 00:28:13,434 Speaker 2: little things like if they get an appointment slightly wrong, 644 00:28:13,474 --> 00:28:18,194 Speaker 2: they get absolutely slammed for it. And the biggest takeaway 645 00:28:18,314 --> 00:28:20,793 Speaker 2: was like they're actually not getting paid that much, so 646 00:28:20,834 --> 00:28:23,194 Speaker 2: why are they going through this whole process? And it's 647 00:28:23,274 --> 00:28:25,474 Speaker 2: kind of that like scale of like, well, they want 648 00:28:25,514 --> 00:28:27,594 Speaker 2: to be there. This is like a huge deal for them. 649 00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:31,513 Speaker 2: They do this for free if they wanted to, versus like, 650 00:28:32,034 --> 00:28:35,273 Speaker 2: this is crazy how they're cheerleaders for one of the 651 00:28:35,314 --> 00:28:37,874 Speaker 2: biggest football clubs in America where all the players are 652 00:28:37,874 --> 00:28:41,554 Speaker 2: literally on millions and millions of dollars, where the mascot 653 00:28:41,634 --> 00:28:44,674 Speaker 2: of that team is getting paid more than the cheerleaders, 654 00:28:45,074 --> 00:28:47,434 Speaker 2: Like what the hell is going on here? And I 655 00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:50,514 Speaker 2: think a big plot line for this season is a 656 00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:54,514 Speaker 2: lot of the veteran cheerleaders, which are the cheerleaders who 657 00:28:54,674 --> 00:28:56,754 Speaker 2: have been a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader for. 658 00:28:56,914 --> 00:28:58,434 Speaker 3: Years, like more than two years. 659 00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:00,354 Speaker 2: A few of them, like I think it was five 660 00:29:00,354 --> 00:29:02,834 Speaker 2: of them got together and they decided to kind of, 661 00:29:02,994 --> 00:29:06,954 Speaker 2: I guess unionize in like an informal way and get 662 00:29:07,314 --> 00:29:09,154 Speaker 2: tell each other that when we get our contracts, we 663 00:29:09,194 --> 00:29:11,834 Speaker 2: need to fight and ask for bigger pay because they 664 00:29:11,874 --> 00:29:14,434 Speaker 2: go through this whole big process at the weeks and 665 00:29:14,474 --> 00:29:16,394 Speaker 2: weeks and weeks, and only at the end of it, 666 00:29:16,874 --> 00:29:19,554 Speaker 2: after they've been told that they're Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, that's 667 00:29:19,594 --> 00:29:22,434 Speaker 2: when they get the contract. And there's no real time 668 00:29:22,594 --> 00:29:24,874 Speaker 2: to the kind of negotiate a contract because you actually 669 00:29:24,914 --> 00:29:27,514 Speaker 2: don't know when you're going to get cut in that process. 670 00:29:27,834 --> 00:29:29,554 Speaker 3: So it's quite intense. 671 00:29:29,754 --> 00:29:32,194 Speaker 2: And The New York Times did an interview with Jada 672 00:29:32,274 --> 00:29:36,594 Speaker 2: McLean and they stated that roughly for this season of 673 00:29:36,914 --> 00:29:40,114 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, the Chileaders were able to negotiate a 674 00:29:40,194 --> 00:29:44,874 Speaker 2: four hundred percent pay rise from the previous season, and 675 00:29:45,154 --> 00:29:47,994 Speaker 2: Jada told the Times that in twenty twenty four, her 676 00:29:48,034 --> 00:29:50,314 Speaker 2: fifth year with the squad, so they haven't actually released 677 00:29:51,034 --> 00:29:54,394 Speaker 2: what the actual increase is, but she did say that 678 00:29:54,474 --> 00:29:57,514 Speaker 2: she had made fifteen dollars an hour and five hundred 679 00:29:57,594 --> 00:30:01,834 Speaker 2: dollars for each appearance, and then that compensation varies based 680 00:30:01,874 --> 00:30:05,754 Speaker 2: on experience, but with the increased wages, she said that 681 00:30:05,834 --> 00:30:09,234 Speaker 2: they could be making up to seventy five dollars an hour, 682 00:30:09,714 --> 00:30:12,794 Speaker 2: So Dallas Cowboys haven't actually released the amount, but that 683 00:30:12,914 --> 00:30:14,434 Speaker 2: was kind of what they were negotiating. 684 00:30:15,714 --> 00:30:18,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so interesting and how that kind of is 685 00:30:18,114 --> 00:30:20,394 Speaker 1: like the story thread all the way through and obviously 686 00:30:20,434 --> 00:30:22,674 Speaker 1: it's still know any of the players, but Jada does 687 00:30:22,714 --> 00:30:24,954 Speaker 1: say at one stage in the and she's very much 688 00:30:25,034 --> 00:30:27,034 Speaker 1: one of the big stars of the series, and it's 689 00:30:27,074 --> 00:30:29,154 Speaker 1: like so interesting to watch her in her final year 690 00:30:29,594 --> 00:30:32,034 Speaker 1: and she does say like I won't get to experience this, 691 00:30:32,194 --> 00:30:34,594 Speaker 1: but I'm so glad, like I helped to make this change, 692 00:30:34,714 --> 00:30:36,794 Speaker 1: and also like that's life changing money for a lot 693 00:30:36,834 --> 00:30:39,234 Speaker 1: of people, which I think is really interesting. It's so 694 00:30:39,274 --> 00:30:41,474 Speaker 1: interesting also watching that story thread of the show of 695 00:30:41,514 --> 00:30:44,394 Speaker 1: them talking about the public reaction, like there's all this 696 00:30:44,434 --> 00:30:46,274 Speaker 1: footage of the girls and this new doco being like 697 00:30:46,474 --> 00:30:48,514 Speaker 1: the world is telling us to ask for all more money, 698 00:30:48,594 --> 00:30:50,354 Speaker 1: Like the world is so shocked. I feel like it 699 00:30:50,394 --> 00:30:52,594 Speaker 1: kind of woke a few of them up to be like, oh, 700 00:30:52,594 --> 00:30:55,794 Speaker 1: this is really crazy, but then it does kind of 701 00:30:55,994 --> 00:30:57,914 Speaker 1: I actually found a season a lot darker than the 702 00:30:57,914 --> 00:31:00,394 Speaker 1: first season. A lot more I found like the first 703 00:31:00,434 --> 00:31:02,994 Speaker 1: season maybe because it was like about a lot of 704 00:31:02,994 --> 00:31:07,674 Speaker 1: the side storylines were recent, like you know, her love partner, 705 00:31:07,714 --> 00:31:10,354 Speaker 1: like their cutesy little love story, and that was so 706 00:31:10,514 --> 00:31:13,554 Speaker 1: light and cute, and then Kelsey getting engaged to her partner, 707 00:31:13,594 --> 00:31:16,354 Speaker 1: and that was really light and cute. Obviously, like victorious 708 00:31:16,354 --> 00:31:18,314 Speaker 1: storyline was anyone that was like a little bit darker, 709 00:31:18,314 --> 00:31:20,874 Speaker 1: But she herself is so bubbly and bright and always 710 00:31:20,914 --> 00:31:23,474 Speaker 1: dressed in pink and stuff that it didn't seem as intense, 711 00:31:23,834 --> 00:31:25,954 Speaker 1: and there were those darker moments. But I find that 712 00:31:26,154 --> 00:31:28,954 Speaker 1: season two, especially towards the end, which I know you 713 00:31:28,954 --> 00:31:31,354 Speaker 1: haven't watched last few episodes, and I'm not gonna spoil 714 00:31:31,354 --> 00:31:33,554 Speaker 1: it for anyone, but this is why I watched it 715 00:31:33,594 --> 00:31:35,674 Speaker 1: till two am, because I was about to turn it off, 716 00:31:35,674 --> 00:31:37,154 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they started doing these big 717 00:31:37,154 --> 00:31:40,194 Speaker 1: cliffhangers because all this stuff happens so like when they're 718 00:31:40,234 --> 00:31:42,914 Speaker 1: having the pay meetings, like the cheerleaders are having these 719 00:31:42,914 --> 00:31:45,874 Speaker 1: secret pay meetings, and the reason that that doesn't go ahead, 720 00:31:45,914 --> 00:31:48,474 Speaker 1: it all dissipates and they don't do the walkout is 721 00:31:48,514 --> 00:31:50,314 Speaker 1: because and you don't find out who this person is. 722 00:31:50,354 --> 00:31:52,914 Speaker 1: But someone on the team went to the head Cowboys 723 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:55,834 Speaker 1: people and told what was happening and also potentially like 724 00:31:55,954 --> 00:31:59,394 Speaker 1: shared the video of the meeting that they had taken. 725 00:31:59,754 --> 00:32:02,434 Speaker 1: There's also like quite an intense you don't see anything 726 00:32:02,434 --> 00:32:04,234 Speaker 1: but one of the cheerleaders, one of the main girls 727 00:32:04,554 --> 00:32:07,954 Speaker 1: in this season, talking about domestic violence and stalking, and 728 00:32:07,994 --> 00:32:11,034 Speaker 1: that's quite intense. Also, I didn't even know the Dallas 729 00:32:11,034 --> 00:32:13,914 Speaker 1: Cowboys Cheerleaders existed till this documentary came out, just because 730 00:32:13,914 --> 00:32:15,474 Speaker 1: it's not a big thing for me in Australia, even 731 00:32:15,474 --> 00:32:17,274 Speaker 1: though I know that they've been super famous for many 732 00:32:17,314 --> 00:32:20,034 Speaker 1: many years, but because I watched so much of the 733 00:32:20,074 --> 00:32:24,114 Speaker 1: show all during the year, like news stories or videos 734 00:32:24,194 --> 00:32:26,954 Speaker 1: or like tiktoks around what was happening in real time 735 00:32:26,954 --> 00:32:29,194 Speaker 1: would pop up. And there were two kind of big 736 00:32:29,234 --> 00:32:32,274 Speaker 1: scandals in the last year of Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader is. 737 00:32:32,914 --> 00:32:35,434 Speaker 1: And one is that like the lead girl captain went 738 00:32:35,514 --> 00:32:39,074 Speaker 1: missing for a few games and people were just like 739 00:32:39,154 --> 00:32:41,274 Speaker 1: shocked and like where is she? Like all the message 740 00:32:41,274 --> 00:32:43,154 Speaker 1: boards and like all the social pages like where is she? 741 00:32:43,194 --> 00:32:45,514 Speaker 1: Where is she? Where is she? That gets answered in 742 00:32:45,514 --> 00:32:50,114 Speaker 1: the documentary of what happened and like got unfolded. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 743 00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:50,914 Speaker 1: because what I. 744 00:32:50,874 --> 00:32:53,394 Speaker 2: Found really interesting, which is they talked about right at 745 00:32:53,434 --> 00:32:57,714 Speaker 2: the beginning, is that they said that in the past 746 00:32:57,714 --> 00:33:00,434 Speaker 2: five years, this year had the most spots to fill 747 00:33:00,434 --> 00:33:02,834 Speaker 2: in from rookies. Yes, And it was like, it's really 748 00:33:02,874 --> 00:33:07,114 Speaker 2: interesting how the show premiered last year and now suddenly 749 00:33:07,114 --> 00:33:10,794 Speaker 2: only so many veterans don't want to come back as cheerleaders, 750 00:33:10,834 --> 00:33:12,994 Speaker 2: like they had the biggest amount of spots available. 751 00:33:13,474 --> 00:33:15,514 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I think also a lot of those 752 00:33:15,594 --> 00:33:17,474 Speaker 1: veterans they had all there on their fifth year, and 753 00:33:17,474 --> 00:33:19,434 Speaker 1: this is like unspoken thing, even though there's a girl 754 00:33:19,434 --> 00:33:21,474 Speaker 1: in that season five year done. Yeah, so I think 755 00:33:21,474 --> 00:33:23,434 Speaker 1: a lot of them did leave after five. But yeah, 756 00:33:23,474 --> 00:33:24,794 Speaker 1: you could be right, there could be some sort of 757 00:33:24,834 --> 00:33:26,634 Speaker 1: like something they're kind of tilting it because. 758 00:33:26,474 --> 00:33:28,074 Speaker 2: The fact that they said we haven't had this in 759 00:33:28,114 --> 00:33:31,674 Speaker 2: five years. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, because they have the yes, 760 00:33:31,754 --> 00:33:33,954 Speaker 2: so many rookies. Although Shandy, who's one of the lead girls, 761 00:33:34,034 --> 00:33:35,194 Speaker 2: was there for her six years, it was. 762 00:33:35,194 --> 00:33:37,394 Speaker 1: Like it can be done her And then along with 763 00:33:37,434 --> 00:33:39,794 Speaker 1: that other mystery, there was also one of the lead 764 00:33:39,914 --> 00:33:42,474 Speaker 1: girls who was promoted to a top spot towards the 765 00:33:42,594 --> 00:33:43,354 Speaker 1: end of the season. 766 00:33:43,554 --> 00:33:43,754 Speaker 3: Yeah. 767 00:33:43,794 --> 00:33:46,474 Speaker 1: Also then mysteriously like left the team and wasn't in 768 00:33:46,514 --> 00:33:49,074 Speaker 1: any of the end of team year photos or anything 769 00:33:49,114 --> 00:33:52,034 Speaker 1: like that, and you find out exactly what happened, And 770 00:33:52,074 --> 00:33:55,354 Speaker 1: all I'm going to say is just two words official investigation. 771 00:33:55,714 --> 00:33:58,394 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know it's real. I was, yeah, 772 00:33:58,434 --> 00:33:59,834 Speaker 1: I was just watching it. It's like two am, and 773 00:33:59,834 --> 00:34:01,114 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I can't turn it off now 774 00:34:01,154 --> 00:34:03,474 Speaker 1: when they've just been like this cuts to them. They 775 00:34:03,554 --> 00:34:05,314 Speaker 1: go on this like all expenses paid trip, and it 776 00:34:05,354 --> 00:34:07,794 Speaker 1: cuts to them and the bus driving to the game, 777 00:34:07,994 --> 00:34:10,234 Speaker 1: and they're all just like looking down, so shocked and sad, 778 00:34:10,554 --> 00:34:13,154 Speaker 1: and they're like, something happened to the Bahamas. We obviously 779 00:34:13,194 --> 00:34:15,433 Speaker 1: I'm not sleeping tonight. Yeah, it's really good TV. 780 00:34:15,714 --> 00:34:17,434 Speaker 3: And now I have to go back home. Yeah, sorry, 781 00:34:17,514 --> 00:34:18,194 Speaker 3: clucking off. 782 00:34:18,954 --> 00:34:22,114 Speaker 1: So Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders all seven episodes. I wish it 783 00:34:22,154 --> 00:34:24,634 Speaker 1: was more than seven. No, I would have watched fifteen episodes, 784 00:34:24,794 --> 00:34:25,674 Speaker 1: not a round number. 785 00:34:25,714 --> 00:34:26,354 Speaker 3: At least eight. 786 00:34:26,634 --> 00:34:28,754 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, it's. 787 00:34:28,594 --> 00:34:29,554 Speaker 3: So worth watching. 788 00:34:29,634 --> 00:34:31,034 Speaker 1: And then also then you'll just want to go and 789 00:34:31,074 --> 00:34:33,194 Speaker 1: google what all the girls are doing now and what 790 00:34:33,234 --> 00:34:35,794 Speaker 1: the fallout was from all of this. Drama, so yeah, 791 00:34:35,874 --> 00:34:37,994 Speaker 1: really good TV. You get to watched them pretty dancing. 792 00:34:38,114 --> 00:34:41,554 Speaker 1: But also yeah, the hind the scenes stories are wild. 793 00:34:41,714 --> 00:34:46,114 Speaker 2: Saying thank you so much for listening to the Spill 794 00:34:46,114 --> 00:34:48,394 Speaker 2: today and do not forget to follow us on TikTok 795 00:34:48,434 --> 00:34:51,674 Speaker 2: at the Spill podcast. The Spill is produced by Mansia 796 00:34:51,754 --> 00:34:55,074 Speaker 2: Swar which sound production by Scott Strounik. Momamma Studios are 797 00:34:55,074 --> 00:34:58,274 Speaker 2: style Wood furniture from Benton and Fenton. Visit Fentonemfentin dot 798 00:34:58,274 --> 00:35:00,274 Speaker 2: com dot au and we'll be back here in your 799 00:35:00,314 --> 00:35:04,834 Speaker 2: podcast feed the weekend, watch tomorrow, Bye bye May. 800 00:35:07,194 --> 00:35:08,114 Speaker 3: Clan Clan. 801 00:35:10,394 --> 00:35:13,434 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land. 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