WEBVTT - Dave 'Hughesy' Hughes: "I Have Been a Narcissist Most of My Life" 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.840 Narcisst I think the description is more but self love, 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:06.480 and I have been a narcissist most of my life. 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.960 I genuinely believe, genuinely believe that I have cracked that cod, 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.120 but that I am not someone like someone today said. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:19.240 I mean, obviously I'm on the online. You're ruining your legacy, 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.880 and that legacy, what legacy is? It's all that's ridiculous. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:24.080 There's nothing to lose. 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:29.680 My guest today is someone I've shared more hours behind 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:34.000 a microphone with than anyone else in my life. For 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.800 thirteen years. Dave hughes and I woke up together before dawn, 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.080 talking our way through breakfast radio. We laughed a lot, 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:47.600 We argued. We watch each other raise children, navigate marriages, 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:52.520 build careers. I know Hughsey as a colleague, but more 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:57.680 importantly I know him as a friend. Australia knows Hughsey 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.800 as one of its most successful comedians, the bloke with 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.920 the unmistakable voice, the quick wit, and the ability to 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.920 find the funny in almost anything. But there's always been 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:14.520 another side to him too, a more introspective Hughesy, someone 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:19.360 who's spoken openly about self doubt, who's questioned himself, even 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:24.800 while making millions of Australian's laugh and millions of dollars. Lately, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.039 many of us have seen yet another side of him, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.959 a man speaking passionately about politics and the direction of 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:37.760 the country, prompting plenty of debate about who Dave Hughes 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.880 really is. So today I wanted to talk to the 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.319 man I've known for nearly thirty years and find out 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:51.920 who he is. Right now, this is Dave Hughes. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:00.520 Husy, Katie. It's great to be on no filter. What 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.520 a what an it is for me. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:07.960 I'm supposed to introduce you. Okay, you are my friend. Yes, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:09.960 you are my longtime colleague. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:17.800 Yep. You are a self made man. Thank you, which 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.359 is rare. You are. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:32.720 Increasingly, it seems, without fear or judgment, maybe without maybe 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:38.840 maybe without common sense. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.600 Do you think, oh, some would say without common sense. Yeah. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.960 I think those people don't have common sense, so I'd 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.960 beg to differ with those people. I think those people 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:53.760 are unaware of what's around them and they're too comfortable 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.400 in their ignorance. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:01.880 Well, you know you are entitled to every comfort now 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.880 because you've worked very successfully in your career for. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:13.320 Thirty five years. Getting added, so yes, a bit less thirty. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.320 I really started set up comedy in nineteen ninety three. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.520 So I started my comedy journey thirty three years ago. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.040 Was that when you went to wa Yes, I dropped 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:24.959 out of UNI, spent a year on the dog trying 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.600 to become a professional AFL player. Account I was getting 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.760 one hundred dollars a games. There was a lot of 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.600 money back then. Yeah, right, not bad, yes, but it 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.880 didn't work out. So you had grown up in Warnable. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.080 This is a country town in Victoria. Yep, thirty thousand 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.800 people's yes, probably twenty five thousand there. So it's gone 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.400 up slightly in population, but a lot in footprint. There 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:50.960 used to be a lot more people in each house, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:56.000 all right, Yes, yeah, the population has spread out far 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.640 and wide, but every house has less people in it. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.360 Population hasn't I mean that? Yeah, it hasn't increased that much. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:08.400 Well that's the story of Australia. It is, aside from newcomers. Yes, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.880 so yes, yeah we have not. People have been here 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.920 for a long time and not having children because they 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.840 can't afford it, which is ridiculous. Do you think that's 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.640 the only reason? Partly, yeah, I do partly it is 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.119 well you have three children, Yes, I have four children. Yes, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.560 you're way above average when nation building. I'm just you 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.200 are definitely with four, but four is a rarity these days. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:33.359 Who was it who said? 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.400 Was it Winston Churchill who said one for mother, one 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.120 for father, one for the country. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:43.200 Well, I think it's Peter Castellio. That's when the baby 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.440 boners came in, remember, and I thought, I think he 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.720 was quoting someone. He might have been, but that's what 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.800 I remember it from. And everyone you've got a baby 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.440 bonus and people bought plasma TVs with you. Yeah, that's right. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.919 Had a kid who bought a plasma? Yeah, why not 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.760 go on for it. I think there should be more 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.640 reward for children. I think people who have children you 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.520 should pay less tax. I think it's the only way 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.880 to increase population in Australia apart from immigration. I think 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.200 this is to work with the tax system. And you've 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.760 got so many ideas I do. I've only really started 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.559 into it, but there's quite a few of them. People say, 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.840 I don't know what people say, but you know, you 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.599 know what people say. People. It's a wide range of 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.520 what people there's a wide range of what people. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:32.200 Say, so, you know, we know who have worked in 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:37.599 the public eye that and particularly in comedy, I think 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:43.400 people are polarizing because you expose yourself in comedy and 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.880 people always want to shoot down someone and they're not funny, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:52.880 they're not whatever. But you have really taken a step 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:58.720 outside of that now to the fact that you are 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.839 being abused by people, some of whom have been your friends, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.279 very close friends and colleagues. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.360 Tell me, I don't give me the name list. I 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.880 remember I sent your screenshop the other way. Oh yeah, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:15.839 that was right, Yes, called a monster, called a monster 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.599 by Greg Fleet, who was a comedian. Yes, I've since 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.240 I've since refir at my ex account, which is my 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:26.160 Twitter account to talk to Greg public forum. Right. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.880 And yet other people on the street and I have 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.120 seen this, I have borne witness to this. You are 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.960 like a popular hero on the streets. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.839 Yeah, well yeah, so I'm not. I am experiencing something 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.839 I've never experienced before. It in its in its volume 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:49.560 of congratulations on the street by so many people of 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:54.320 so many different demographics, so many ethnicities, so many these 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.080 sort of income ranges. Yeah, a lot of people which 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.080 I didn't realize. And I think possible partly when you 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:07.040 do attain a level of wealth that insulate you from 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:11.160 the problems that most people have. And yes, and that's 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.720 the problem with politicians. Yeah, and you're always pointing out, well, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.400 that's when you know And then yes, but then if 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.920 you do step into that world, you realize these people 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.400 have been waiting for someone to speak for them. It 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.560 sounds ridiculous and I sound like a wanker for saying that, 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.200 But you just need to spend a day with me 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.560 and see how many people congratulate me and say that 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.800 exactly that or you know, not just online but in DMS, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.400 or you know, just publicly online or but in the street. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.360 It's crazy. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.520 But also, like you said, it's unexpected, yes, that someone 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.760 who has achieved a certain degree of success or wealth 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.840 will put their head above the parapet. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.360 Yeah, well I mean I got to the Yeah, I look, 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.800 I am lucky, as you know, I don't have to 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:57.040 carry favor to any particular company at the moment. I'm 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.120 not you know, I'm not a you know, in a 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:04.280 media job that requires appeasement of sponsors or appeasement of 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.520 the government, who are basically almost the biggest sponsor of 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.280 much media these days because they're the only under advertising. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:12.720 So I don't have to worry about any of that, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.880 you know, And so I just I can speak my mind. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.640 But I think what I really want to get to 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.560 is your background. Because you were not born with a 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.520 silver spoon in your mouth. You were not born into privilege. 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.040 No I was. I grew up in the west of Warnable, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.839 which is the Commission area Warnable, so the poor area 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.880 of one of the poor areas. And yeah, so with 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.160 a street full of factory workers basically, and your dad 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:40.800 was one of them. Yeah. He was a painter and 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.160 decorator who couldn't work out invoicing and you know, apparently 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.760 was never very good at chasing up bills. So basically, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:50.800 I think my mother said to him, we can't live 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:52.680 like this. You're not You're doing work, but you're not 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.920 getting paid for it, and so you need to find 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.960 out a job where he gets a regular income. So 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:01.880 he moved from doing that to the Neistleigh factory Nestles 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:06.280 we called it Nestles. Sorry that good nestle became a trend, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.160 you way to say nestles. So yeah, so it was 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.040 the Nestles. There's about three factories and Warnerable. There's Nestles, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.800 there was the woolen mill where you'd made blankets. There 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.760 was the cheese factory. The factory was there. The cheese 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.240 factory is still out, so really the only factory that's 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.160 that's still there where your brother worked. Yeah, there was 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.600 Fletcher Jones. They made clothes, clothes. Yeah, there was a 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.000 number of factories in Warnable when this back when Australia 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.319 used to produce stuff, make stuff. Doesn't really do it anymore, 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.439 so I don't know why, but I sort of do 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.040 because it's cheap labor, you know, the parts of the world. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.680 So we ended up, you know, just importing all our 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.920 stuff rather than making any of it. So and your mum, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:50.280 Carmel was a nurse. Yes, she was midwife, Yeah, in 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.760 Warnable and yeah Corot local towns and yeah, so started 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.160 in Sandringham in Melbourne. So yeah she was. Yeah, she 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.240 was a do you know she was a she grub 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.400 an orphan with her sister, so they grew up in 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:07.800 an orphanage Balarat. So she had a really tough, tough 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.920 no parents, Yes, so it was it was yeah, but 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.600 she was looked after a sister in the orphanage. Basically 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.600 she was a bit younger than hers, and then she 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.839 had four children with dys Yes, four children quickly with 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.800 my father and yes, and they were like, yeah, very 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.800 broke at the time. So your twin sisters, I've got 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.599 sisters or twins there four years older than me and 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.640 a brother who's two years older them. Mick, yes, and 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.320 then you yes, So will they be four under four? 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.520 She had said, yes, my sisters aren't quite four years 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.760 older than me though, but yeah, so she had four 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.640 children under four. They had four children under four. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:47.320 So and your family life was interesting because you've discussed before. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:49.959 We'll get onto that the fact that you don't drink. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.280 Your dad was fond of a drink to. 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.040 Your fond Yeah. I think it's the Irish heritage of 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.960 you know, it's a big drinking culture, big drinking tradition. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.320 And well, you know, that's another quote from a writer 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.440 and I can't remember who it is who said God 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.200 invented whiskey to stop the Irish ruling the world. Well, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:14.960 you grew up in Warnable, engaging in what was one 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.960 of two past times for young men in that town. 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.400 One was footy and the other one was drinking. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.280 It was a big combination of both really, So yeah, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.080 I mean most boys played footy then in Warnable and 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.560 you know, got really drunk after the games, and you know, 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.120 punched each other in the streets or tried to, you know, 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.200 pick up, and I didn't pick up much. I got 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.640 punched a lot. So have a kebab and go home. 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:45.480 Not abab. It was a lamb jaffle. Actually who made those? 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:51.160 Not my sister Robert. Someone else called Amrie. The courthouse kitchen. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:53.559 It was a courthouse kitchen, of course, and it was 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.440 across the road from the lock up. Actually I ended 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.000 up in a number of times. Yeah, would you end 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.400 up in the lock up? But getting that drunk that 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.920 I would do things. I would never a violent person, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.560 So I would get punched being a smart ass, and 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.360 I might try to punch back, but it wasn't very 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:14.160 good really, so not really not violence, just being I 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.360 don't know. I'd wake up there and don't really know 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:17.840 how I got there, and I wouldn't be charged with 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.720 any like offences apart from drunken disorderly, so basically falling 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.000 asleep on the road. They're probasly saving me from killing myself, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.760 really know, from just falling from my car or walking 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.760 off somebody. Yeah, one of my last times a drinking. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.080 Me and my mate Mano. I can't even remember how 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.679 we did it, but we must have stolen the ladder 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.000 from someone's house and then we put the ladder towards 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.120 next to a Norfolk pine tree. You know, the first 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.120 branch is way by, you can you could, and then 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.360 the ladder up to the first branch and then climbed 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.640 to the top of this one thirty tree or forty 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.280 minute tree. And I'd just remember coming to and looking 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.120 down at the police with their megaphone saying come down, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.160 like I don't know how I got up here. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.440 Daylight at this point, like yeahach morning. Had you spent 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.160 the whole night in the tree? I don't know, but 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.520 I remember we had barbecue. We had burger ings actually 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.960 with us soon, so we had burgerings. We were prepared 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.439 climbed to the dom. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.560 Will. My mate was a farm boy and he would 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.439 so he just jumped down the tree real quick, and 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.000 I was like, I can't remember getting up here. Guys 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:20.520 going to take a long time to come down because 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.679 I'm scared now. So it took a long time, but 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.080 end up in the back of the div van and 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.600 went to the lock up for you know, another sleep, 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:27.520 I suppose. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:32.040 So, yeah, and how long was that before you decided 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.120 to not drink anymore? But this was all this all 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.360 happened with your decision to go to Perth. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:43.840 It was before that. So I well, like, I was 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.120 pretty good at school, but I wasn't focused. And you know, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.240 I remember the teachers calling me my mother up to 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.760 school between year eleven and year twelve when saying, and 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.800 the teachers, you know, the principal or one of the 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.880 other teachers saying, this kid has intelligence. He could actually 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.920 do well if he can focus. And it was before 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.960 ADHD was ever a thing. So and and so my 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.200 mother said, come on, you can do and it was 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.080 smart as well, so and so I focused to a degree. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.080 In year twelve got the best mark for the school. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.280 It was the year with the ducks. Yeah, but it 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.600 was it was a bad year. It really was a 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.120 bad It was their worst year. I'm sure it was so. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.760 And I'm not kidding because the next year, how big 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.720 was the school year twelve was probably sixty boys, okay, 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.160 but the next year, look, generally the Ducks would get 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.480 presented to the to the school cohort the next year 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.280 at the start of the year. So you know, you 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.760 want to be like this person. Yeah, yeah, this is 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.240 if you study hard, you can be this guy. Yeah. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.480 They didn't deal it with me. Oh did you not 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.120 get invited and get invited back? So they thought it 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.560 was a year that's one to scrub off the But anyway, 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.000 so I was a day and I ended up with 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.280 the you know those days. My none of my family 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.200 ever been in university, and I'm like, even my cousins 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:58.640 hadn't been. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.080 No one had been so calm when she studied nursing. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.200 Would have done it in hospital then, which is what 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:03.600 they did. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.080 Yeah. Yeah, so you study, but it's not like yeah no, no, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.480 not a degree. Yeah yeah, I wasn't so so yeah. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.440 So but then I thought, what can I do? I 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:13.840 wanted to do law, but I didn't get the marks 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.840 to get into law, so I was duck without getting 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.520 a muss. So I'm saying it was not a great mark, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.080 but I got the first The thing I could get 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.840 into is in the cutoff. Did you want to be 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.000 an elite person? You know? I wanted to be a wanker? 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.960 Basically was information technology. It was the first year, they 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.480 offered it as a degree at swin Burn, right, and 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.080 you got it. I got a scholarship to do it 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.720 as well, so you got paid to do it. So 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.400 you got to get a degree and you got paid. Wow. 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.240 And so I didn't really know what information technology was. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.880 The computers. Yeah, it was just was on the cusp 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.040 of the internet, right, the Internet really started nineteen ninety. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.680 This is nine eighty nine, so this is right there 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.360 where it's like all of a sudden, you know, the 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.280 next year you're seeing jobs in the paper for it, 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.000 and they're like two hundred thousand dollars a year, like 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.200 in nineteen ninety or something. So it was like it 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.480 was just as that that rocket ship took off. But 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.280 I could not focus. And this again I read this 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:12.680 recently classic ADHD. You can get through school because there's 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.280 a structure that you can't avoid, but if you're real, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.880 but if you're you get to UNI, you can't focus. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.200 And I could not focus because they have no structure 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.960 in place in your brain won't I could not. And 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.520 also I had no interest in all the maths that 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:26.920 went along with it, even though it was pretty good 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.480 at maths. I just had no interesting coding so boring. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:31.800 So how long did you stick that out? I quit 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.040 after six weeks, so and then you went to accounting. Yeah, 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.600 but I worked in an abatoire for a year for that, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.240 that's right, Yes, which is a brutal way to make 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.320 a living. Brutal, that's I'm a vegan, but I didn't 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.120 become a vegan then. But I always say, and I 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.040 still if I walk past an animal rights protest and 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.840 I'll ask them you're vegan, and if any of them 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.720 say no, I just go go home, because you are 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:01.200 not helping animals. Because saying up to the cup is 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.320 if you don't like horse racing, you don't like animals 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:06.960 being treated cruelly, and you eat meat, well you're a 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.639 hypocrite because meat eating meat is cruel animals. That's just 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.280 that's just the end of the day. That's just it. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.240 So and my kids eat meat, So I'm not like saying, 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.680 don't eat meat. But I know I love me. I'm 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.200 not and you're always trying to lecture me. No, I'm 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.120 just saying no, I'm not. I don't think it's good 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.680 for health, by the way, and that's why I stopped eating. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.640 But I did have a crack at Adam Bant, who 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.879 was the leader of the Greens back in only recently, 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.399 because he wasn't a vegan or even a vegetarian. So 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.800 I'm like, mate, stop banging on about animal cruelty or 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.400 you know anyway, that's it. I just walk. If you're 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.600 going to talk the talk, walk the walk. Alright, that's 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:47.760 all all, Sadi, all right, so back and warnable. Yeah, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.280 what was the talk you were talking? I just wanted 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.800 to be a hero. I just wanted to be I 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:55.840 said to my I used to say to my mates 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.639 I'm going to have a beautiful wife one day, and 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.199 they said, no, you won't. I said I will. So 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.320 I would say, like you were still a virgin at 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:09.680 this point, Yes, I was. I was desperately self obsessed. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.639 I'd like to think I am less self obsessed. Now 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:18.560 some people disagree, and I acknowledge that, but but yeah, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.000 so I was. I would when I was growing up, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:22.600 I would thought, no one's ever going to love me. 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:24.280 I'm too ugly to be loved. And it's like I 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.040 used to just think about it all the time. It 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.600 was ridiculous. I was so so wanted to be romantic, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.920 but I had no takers, and I was it was 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.840 a self defeating principal. I would walk past. If I 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.399 walked down the street and I heard a group of 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.679 girls laughing, I'd think I would think they're laughing at me. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:40.800 I was, so I couldn't have walked past a girls school. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.600 That was ridiculous. And it was like, now, if I 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:44.960 walk down the street, a group of girls are laughing 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.560 at you, they're laughing at me. Yeah, you know, it's 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.320 a different perspective in a good way. Yes, well, they're 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:51.000 laughing with whatever. 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:51.280 They're like. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.840 I don't suggest you walk past girls' schools a lot neither. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.520 It's not a good look for you. I didn't say, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.040 do I say girls school, but anyway by girls women. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.960 And yet you know because Australian Story did a story 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:12.199 on you last year. Yes, and I didn't know this, 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.040 but bre Our producer told us that was their highest 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.600 rating episode that they did. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:22.440 Yes, someone told me that Jesus I should remember it, Robin, 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.280 I think, Rob, you don't need to remember. No. But 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:26.840 she was lovely and she did a great job. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:32.040 But they described you as this is a great description 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:37.840 of you, someone caught between self loathing and self belief. 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.320 Yeah. Well, there's a lot of stuff. It's a classic narcissist. 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:46.200 That's morbid self love. I think is the term narcisst. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.280 I think the description is morbid self love. And I 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.480 have been a narcissist most of my life. I genuinely believe, 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.879 genuinely believe that I have cracked that code, but that 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:01.320 I am not someone like someone today said, I'm I mean, 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.800 obviously I'm on the online. You're you're ruining your legacy, 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:08.440 and that legacy what legacy is? It's all that's ridiculous. 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.399 There's nothing to lose. I don't believe what they're talking 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.680 about is you're probably your comedic legacy. Yeah. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:21.800 Right, So in comedy you are one of the titans 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.439 of in Australia. There's no doubt, and you're at the 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.200 top of your game and your stage craft is. 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:30.720 I love it. I love it. I love stand up 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.960 comedy the most and I always recommend someone if you've 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.439 never seen me, do stand up comedy live. Don't judge me, 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.199 don't judge my comed comedic ability until you've been in 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.399 a room with me for an hour. I believe I 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:47.840 can convert most people if you give me an hour 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:48.440 of your time. 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.160 But when you started, so when you were growing up 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.080 and you were kind of you were always kind of 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.719 an outline, like you always had a pack of mates 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:03.679 through footy and whatever. Mentally you were an outlier because 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.080 you had these dreams for yourself that took you well 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:07.119 beyond warnable. 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.000 Yeah, and I didn't tell people about them for quite 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.280 a while. But no, so yeah, not didn't want but 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:12.040 I wouldn't say. 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.520 Where did they come from? Because the person in your 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.720 family who always believed in you, because. 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.040 My mother was always absolutely so well, she was always 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.840 Mum always thought that I I think she thought I 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.040 had greatness in me. I think she did so, and 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.960 she always she knew I was smart from the from 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.399 like I was apparently I was really I would always 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.879 ask questions about, you know, the world. When I was 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:40.200