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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Your Beauty, the podcast for Your Face.

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Speaker 4: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm killing mccaren you are, And before

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Speaker 4: we talk about something that has actually blown my mind,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna hear from the gals with what they've got

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Speaker 4: for the Beauty Edit.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Beauty Edit. I'm Cass Mama Mes Morning.

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Speaker 5: Editor, and I'm Taylor Strano. Cass. What is happening in

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Speaker 5: the world of beauty this week?

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Speaker 2: So this is kind of beauty adjacent. Taylor, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about the Pantone Color of the Year which is just

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Speaker 2: announced for twenty twenty six, and it's Cloud Dancer, which

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Speaker 2: is a form of white, quite bold. Obviously, there was

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Speaker 2: quite a lot of reaction happening online. I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: saw this, Taylor.

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Speaker 5: The outrage from the internet, because like, let's not forget

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Speaker 5: this is the end of the year. What's it like

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Speaker 5: ending the year without a bit of outrage?

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Speaker 2: Exactly, And obviously the design of this choice was that

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Speaker 2: it's a push towards truth and simplicity, stepping back from

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Speaker 2: toxicity and overstimulation. It's very peaceful, breezy, and it kind

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Speaker 2: of was about minimalism. And so I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: when we talk about the pentane color of the year,

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Speaker 2: it's not just for interiors. It tends to bleed through

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Speaker 2: into fashion. It tends to bleed through into beauty.

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Speaker 1: And I thought it.

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Speaker 2: Was interesting when you look at it from a beauty

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Speaker 2: lens because it's very clean girl, which we've seen a

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Speaker 5: I thought we'd moved on from cling girl and now

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Speaker 5: we were into like messy girl esthetic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gone a little grandeur. I felt so in

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Speaker 2: this sense. I didn't know if it was as cutting

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Speaker 2: edge from a beauty lens, because yeah, we've seen a

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Speaker 2: lot of flickbags, a lot of white eye in a corners,

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Speaker 2: a lot of beautiful, glossy highlights.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so then what does that mean in terms of

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six beauty? How will Cloud Dancer, do you think,

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Speaker 5: like find its way into the beauty space.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's kind of about then turning up

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Speaker 2: this color rather than you know, opting for neutral or

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Speaker 2: things that are like very plain. So using a really

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Speaker 2: bright white glittery eyeshadow might be a really good example

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Speaker 2: of that, opting for a little highlight in the center

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you say the word highlight, because if the

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Speaker 5: blinding diamond highlighter comes back, I'm done. I'm no glitter.

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Speaker 5: I'm like hanging up makeup and I'll be done. I

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Speaker 5: can't go back to the blinding highlight.

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Speaker 2: Of no glitter, I'm happy to confirm. And I think

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Speaker 2: we're going to see this in nails too. So we've

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Speaker 2: seen a lot of the kind of clean girl pink manicures.

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Speaker 2: They're getting a little milky, a little whiter, which honestly

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Speaker 2: I'm not mad about. It's kind of twenty sixteen, but

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Speaker 2: I'm into it. Yes, I reckon you can add a

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Speaker 2: little bit of iridescence to your manicure if you want,

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Speaker 5: It's all out back to the Glades Donuts sort of vibe.

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Speaker 5: I have what I like to refer to as a

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Speaker 5: dull handed manicure, which is just like the milky skin toneges.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: And I see you've got milky going on as well.

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Speaker 2: In bubble baths Today a classic. She's in bubble Bar

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Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna see this in sense too,

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Speaker 2: A really good example of this is Lazy Sunday Morning

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Speaker 5: Perfect. I'm here for it. Sign me up. Still don't

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Speaker 5: think that I agree with it personally as color of

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Speaker 3: What about you?

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Speaker 5: Have you got thoughts? Does this represent the beauty space

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Speaker 2: Look, it's not what I would have picked Taylor, and

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably not what people would have picked

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Speaker 1: Big claim, but that's my guess. I think for beauty,

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Speaker 2: So that's probably I would have gone more down that line.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 5: I've not given it much thought, because when I think

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Speaker 5: that it can be whatever you want. Right in terms

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Speaker 5: marketing was nice. Does it represent what I think the

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Speaker 5: color of the year for twenty twenty six will be?

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Speaker 5: I find it really hard that we do it before

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Speaker 5: the year happens. We'll check in again this time next year, though,

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Speaker 5: to see if it actually came.

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Speaker 2: To fruition exactly. Watch the Space guys.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Cass, You're across MCO Beauty and the whole sort

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Speaker 5: of ethos behind the brand is giving you these luxury,

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Speaker 5: very highly sought after products in a jupe format.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if they would call it a jupe,

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Speaker 2: but yes, I think most people would say it's very

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Speaker 2: similar to the original. Well, one of these companies that

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Speaker 2: many MC beauty products has finally clapped back. I'm talking

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Speaker 5: Obviously Chirosa is like their signature scent basically Soldigonio have

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Speaker 5: slapped a lawsuit against MC beauty and they founder Shelley

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Speaker 5: Sullivan saying that MCO has copied the look of their

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Speaker 5: They say that not only do the products look and

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Speaker 5: the way these things are being marketed out to consumers

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Speaker 5: also takes it straight out of the Solid de Genero playbook.

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Speaker 5: So using words like it smells exactly like the Solid

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Speaker 5: m CO Beauty no strangers to a lawsuit or an

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Speaker 5: accusation against what they're doing over there. Famously, other brands

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Speaker 5: have come for them. Charlotte Tilbury is a really big one.

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Speaker 5: There's so many products, especially in the base category, that

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Speaker 5: you know, these companies can't own generic packaging and smells

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Speaker 2: So they can get away with it and there's a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so backtrack to November this year, there's a trade

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Speaker 5: dress infringement. So basically now Saltigenia have gone. If you can't,

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Speaker 5: you know, slap them with a law. So let's just

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Speaker 5: make sure that we really tighten up everything on our end.

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Speaker 5: So they've now listed every design element, the clear bottle,

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Speaker 5: the colored coded labels, the round peerl those like sort

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Speaker 2: Look, Taylor, I think we all have seen the wonderfulness

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Speaker 2: that you know came first and it's very similar. There's

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Speaker 2: an element there, and I know that Shelley talks about

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Speaker 2: this of you know, making make up more affordable. These

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Speaker 2: an element of that that is good. But then I

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Speaker 2: So that's really the cracks of this.

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Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, this m code discussion pros and cons

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Speaker 5: on both sides. It's been ongoing for so long now.

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Speaker 5: We mentioned Charlotte Tilery, but like this concern that people

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Speaker 5: are raising, it touches on all categories across beauty. We

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Speaker 2: So I'm really interested to see, you know, as this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Seldi Jhaneiro definitely deaged itself in the

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Speaker 5: and me casses, these old ladies in our thirties. Now,

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Speaker 5: maybe we'll go back to the boomboom cream.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 2: And that's your beauty edit for this week. Let's get

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Speaker 2: back into Q and Avid, Lee and Kelly.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but.

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Speaker 5: Wonder ask me anything, I ask any questions.

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Speaker 6: Okay, before you tell us what blew your mind? It's

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Speaker 6: ten days till Christmas? Is that why your dressed is

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Speaker 6: a sexy Christmas?

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Speaker 3: Damn it?

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Speaker 1: That's what I was going to I was, what'sout in

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Speaker 1: my mind is that it's ten days till Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Ten days till Christmas.

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Speaker 1: This is your last week of work.

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Speaker 4: Woo.

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Speaker 6: The most amazing red dress that you brought a few

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Speaker 6: weeks ago from Kmart twelve dollars, Well, I honestly now

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Speaker 6: I've seen it on you because I went past it

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Speaker 6: by my basket was already full. I went in for

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Speaker 6: like an eyeliner, and I had to get a trolley

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Speaker 6: and I nearly got that hold on.

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Speaker 1: I'll just get you a twelve if you're watching on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: we'll go and join it.

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Speaker 6: It looks quite thick body, Colnor, I haven't even touched it.

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Speaker 6: So ten days till Christmas, guys, so don't freak out

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Speaker 3: You're not going to go home between now and Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with our lovely email from Laylor. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys actually use eyelash curlers daily? Do they actually work?

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Speaker 1: And what some good ones do? I do miscar? First?

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Speaker 1: Are they bad for your lashes? Do they stretch them out? Thanks? Girls?

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Speaker 1: If Lee did not curl her eyelashes, her eyelashes would

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Speaker 3: You know that.

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Speaker 6: God, I'm old Sesame Street elephant snuffle upagus and their lashes.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember it's pretty yeah, but minor short, so

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Speaker 3: Mine is just stumpy and straight.

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Speaker 6: They're like my pubes. My pubes never were curly, Like wow,

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Speaker 1: Friend like that once and I didn't believe her, and

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Speaker 6: I was like, look, it was a full bush, but

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Speaker 1: Did it inspire you to grow a bush?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm like you, I haven't lazed it or anything,

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Speaker 6: but I maintain. But if I let it just grow

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Speaker 3: I'm like a could plat it in the end.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, you talk first about your lashes and your experience,

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Speaker 6: because I think you're not as reliant on such a tool.

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Speaker 1: I definitely use an eyelash curler when I do my

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Speaker 6: Have you used one today? Because your lash is phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: I'm a real like it. If I'm going to an event,

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Speaker 1: then I will apply the mascara afterwards. But this morning

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Speaker 1: definitely don't do it every day every time I do

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Speaker 1: do use it because it definitely lifts them, curls them

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Speaker 1: I can wear mscara without it just doesn't make as

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Speaker 6: You say, do you miscara first? Essentially, no, you don't

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Speaker 6: usually tubulamscaras are fine, or just something that stays soft.

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Speaker 6: If your lashes feel really crunchy to touch, don't curl

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Speaker 6: a softish feeling mascara, that's fine. If it feels like

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Speaker 1: They're very soft today.

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Speaker 6: So what you want to do is, like Kel said,

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Speaker 6: check if it's the type. Most of them have that

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Speaker 6: little rubber buffer. I guess always check that that's still there.

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Speaker 6: You meant to replace the little buffer. I never do

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Speaker 6: I'm the type of person that keeps those those little

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I do that. I've got a box. But

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Speaker 6: Men's get five.

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Speaker 1: Oh anyway, and shout out Gellette.

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Speaker 3: It's the closest shave. It's extensive.

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Speaker 6: And then yout supermarket they're locked up, so you've got

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Speaker 3: It's a whole hard thing. Mind like a razer, yeah,

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Speaker 6: She's got great lushes, but she curls her lashes once

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Speaker 6: And then once you've curled, do you mascara pretty much immediately,

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Speaker 6: Always put your miscar at the base and wiggle because

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Speaker 6: I have because when I went to Toronto with them,

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Speaker 3: It's phenomen So.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like no any you could get us, I would.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I would look just so hairy if

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Speaker 3: No, this is phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: It's it's more like when you think of like those

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Speaker 6: The Shutumera one that was the best widely agreed is

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Speaker 6: the best now is the Sherceado eyelash curl I.

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Speaker 3: You can get a different places.

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Speaker 3: About sixteen dollars. That's really popular and really good.

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Speaker 6: My favorite at home one I've got at the moment

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Speaker 3: I talked about that like last year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it because some of them for me

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Speaker 1: I've never thought I honestly just use what lands on

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Speaker 3: They make such a difference when you need it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to figure out what works for me though,

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Speaker 6: the minish siens you share about seven dollars. They're like

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Speaker 6: And I always have them with me. They're really good

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Speaker 1: That is how much? You were like, I cannot not well.

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Speaker 3: I started to put it on, and then I was

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Speaker 6: Look, if you don't need it, great, If you haven't

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Speaker 3: And then be like wow, yes, sir.

437
00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:38,074
Speaker 6: It's one of those little tricks.

438
00:18:39,434 --> 00:18:39,714
Speaker 3: Okay.

439
00:18:39,794 --> 00:18:43,234
Speaker 6: Question two is a DM from Rachel Hyley and Kelly

440
00:18:43,394 --> 00:18:46,114
Speaker 6: love your podcast and the dynamic between you two is

441
00:18:46,194 --> 00:18:48,234
Speaker 6: so much fun. You should see how much fun we

442
00:18:48,274 --> 00:18:50,754
Speaker 6: have offscreen. I'm hoping you can answer.

443
00:18:50,474 --> 00:18:51,273
Speaker 3: This question under me.

444
00:18:51,754 --> 00:18:54,634
Speaker 6: Yeah, dear, no, even more silly. I'm hoping you can

445
00:18:54,674 --> 00:18:56,954
Speaker 6: answer this question for me. Is there any point to

446
00:18:57,034 --> 00:19:00,754
Speaker 6: skincare ingredients in primers? I see products like the new

447
00:19:00,794 --> 00:19:04,034
Speaker 6: Go To Primers, Elf Primer with n Cinema and so on,

448
00:19:04,394 --> 00:19:06,674
Speaker 6: And given that a primer is usually going on top

449
00:19:06,714 --> 00:19:10,793
Speaker 6: of oisturizer and sunscreen, does the addition of skincare ingredients

450
00:19:10,834 --> 00:19:13,114
Speaker 6: even matter thanks in advance exo.

451
00:19:13,554 --> 00:19:17,234
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where it's like it can't hurt,

452
00:19:18,154 --> 00:19:21,194
Speaker 1: so it's never your primary skin care. You shouldn't bank

453
00:19:21,234 --> 00:19:22,714
Speaker 1: on it being your primary skin care, but it's not

454
00:19:22,714 --> 00:19:24,674
Speaker 1: going to hurt. It's kind of like in ow so

455
00:19:24,754 --> 00:19:28,273
Speaker 1: many makeup products these days have SBF fifty in it. Yeah,

456
00:19:28,514 --> 00:19:32,554
Speaker 1: it's never going to be used as your primary SBF correct,

457
00:19:32,594 --> 00:19:37,714
Speaker 1: but it's so good that now products have additional protection

458
00:19:38,034 --> 00:19:41,234
Speaker 1: and additional skin care benefits in them because it's certainly

459
00:19:41,274 --> 00:19:44,594
Speaker 1: not going to hurt. If you can't taste that there's

460
00:19:45,274 --> 00:19:48,874
Speaker 1: green juice in your red bull, would you have the

461
00:19:48,874 --> 00:19:51,394
Speaker 1: green juice with the red bull or would you just

462
00:19:51,434 --> 00:19:52,154
Speaker 1: have the red bull?

463
00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:53,634
Speaker 3: So true? Who drinks red bull?

464
00:19:53,834 --> 00:19:53,874
Speaker 4: Me?

465
00:19:54,234 --> 00:19:55,074
Speaker 3: I know who's weird?

466
00:19:55,234 --> 00:19:57,474
Speaker 6: But yes, I agree, like add some goodness in there

467
00:19:57,794 --> 00:20:00,394
Speaker 6: because it can't hurt, but it can't be your full goodness.

468
00:20:00,514 --> 00:20:02,514
Speaker 6: That was exactly my answer. It's like it can't hurt.

469
00:20:02,514 --> 00:20:04,674
Speaker 6: It's a nice added bonus. But don't be like, oh,

470
00:20:04,714 --> 00:20:09,554
Speaker 6: I don't need skincare old just cleans, then sunscreen primer. Yeah, yes,

471
00:20:09,754 --> 00:20:12,754
Speaker 6: but they can you know, can help to a degree.

472
00:20:12,834 --> 00:20:15,594
Speaker 6: So for example, if you're dry and you're reaching for

473
00:20:15,674 --> 00:20:19,033
Speaker 6: a hydrating primer, then it all have hydrating ingredients in

474
00:20:19,074 --> 00:20:21,714
Speaker 6: it that are often in skincare as well. You can

475
00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:24,114
Speaker 6: get some with barriers support ingredients that are good for

476
00:20:24,154 --> 00:20:27,874
Speaker 6: sensitive skin, sensitized skin, rosation and things like that. And

477
00:20:27,914 --> 00:20:30,714
Speaker 6: then you'll see some with antioxidants in it, and that's

478
00:20:30,754 --> 00:20:33,514
Speaker 6: because antioxidants and your sunscreen are really good friends. They

479
00:20:33,554 --> 00:20:35,313
Speaker 6: team up and kind of protect your skin more than

480
00:20:35,354 --> 00:20:37,914
Speaker 6: sunscreen alone. You can also see ferming, which again comes

481
00:20:37,954 --> 00:20:40,594
Speaker 6: back to peptides. So if you see barriers support hydrating

482
00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:44,994
Speaker 6: or antioxidants, great. If your favorite primer does not have

483
00:20:45,074 --> 00:20:48,793
Speaker 6: any skincare ingredients, no worries, who cares if it does,

484
00:20:49,554 --> 00:20:53,274
Speaker 6: and you like it fantastic. So I had a look, Well,

485
00:20:53,354 --> 00:20:54,634
Speaker 6: I know one of the easy love for sure, but

486
00:20:54,754 --> 00:20:57,313
Speaker 6: you mentioned go to an ELF. That's because they are

487
00:20:57,474 --> 00:21:00,914
Speaker 6: very popular for this and actually have some claims around it,

488
00:21:00,954 --> 00:21:03,434
Speaker 6: like again not your primary skin care, but the ELF

489
00:21:03,514 --> 00:21:07,154
Speaker 6: hydrating face primer is fantastic and hydrating and the go

490
00:21:07,314 --> 00:21:09,794
Speaker 6: to very glowy primer is my favorite.

491
00:21:09,394 --> 00:21:11,594
Speaker 1: Primarily that has launched out of this year.

492
00:21:11,794 --> 00:21:15,074
Speaker 6: It is that good and of course being Zoe Foster

493
00:21:15,154 --> 00:21:17,714
Speaker 6: Blake and starting the skincare. It does have delicious skincare

494
00:21:17,834 --> 00:21:21,354
Speaker 6: in there. One of the world's most popular the Milk

495
00:21:21,394 --> 00:21:24,273
Speaker 6: Makeup Hydro Group Primer that's got hydrating ingredients and is

496
00:21:24,314 --> 00:21:25,154
Speaker 6: apparently fabulous.

497
00:21:25,154 --> 00:21:25,954
Speaker 3: I don't think I've used that.

498
00:21:26,354 --> 00:21:27,234
Speaker 2: Oh I have.

499
00:21:27,394 --> 00:21:30,154
Speaker 1: It's good. It's really good. Yeah, it's funny because it

500
00:21:30,354 --> 00:21:32,794
Speaker 1: feels so grippy, so you.

501
00:21:32,714 --> 00:21:35,674
Speaker 3: Don't think that the hydration part will happen. That's what

502
00:21:35,714 --> 00:21:36,874
Speaker 3: I've wondered about it.

503
00:21:36,914 --> 00:21:39,194
Speaker 6: One of my favorites that falls into the has skinn

504
00:21:39,234 --> 00:21:41,714
Speaker 6: care in it category is the Nude by Nature Perfecting

505
00:21:41,794 --> 00:21:46,034
Speaker 6: Primer Hydrate and Illuminate. It's just really beautiful and again,

506
00:21:46,074 --> 00:21:47,714
Speaker 6: New by Nature, I guess is kind of one of

507
00:21:47,754 --> 00:21:52,114
Speaker 6: those natural brands, and it's hydrating, but it doesn't make

508
00:21:52,154 --> 00:21:55,194
Speaker 6: me to juicy as a combo girl. So yeah, if

509
00:21:55,234 --> 00:21:58,034
Speaker 6: you're looking for one, look at those. If you found

510
00:21:58,074 --> 00:22:01,794
Speaker 6: not that has no skincare in it, whatsoever, don't matter. Yeah,

511
00:22:01,954 --> 00:22:02,994
Speaker 6: I love Primer sometimes.

512
00:22:03,034 --> 00:22:03,994
Speaker 3: Did I cryme today?

513
00:22:04,194 --> 00:22:04,313
Speaker 6: Oh?

514
00:22:04,394 --> 00:22:04,634
Speaker 3: I did?

515
00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:07,034
Speaker 6: I tried a new revolution on Ooh I we love

516
00:22:07,234 --> 00:22:08,274
Speaker 6: revolution over here?

517
00:22:08,674 --> 00:22:08,793
Speaker 3: Oh?

518
00:22:08,914 --> 00:22:09,434
Speaker 1: Was it good?

519
00:22:09,794 --> 00:22:10,034
Speaker 3: Yeah?

520
00:22:10,034 --> 00:22:11,794
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. I mean, I'll tell you later.

521
00:22:11,834 --> 00:22:14,553
Speaker 6: I feel like you can really tell later. Yes, I

522
00:22:14,674 --> 00:22:16,234
Speaker 6: liked how I make up went on, but then you've

523
00:22:16,234 --> 00:22:16,914
Speaker 6: got to see how.

524
00:22:16,794 --> 00:22:25,714
Speaker 1: It looks next year. Put your teeth into it. Last

525
00:22:25,714 --> 00:22:27,074
Speaker 1: one of the year, what have you got?

526
00:22:27,114 --> 00:22:28,994
Speaker 6: I've got three for the last one's year, But I

527
00:22:29,034 --> 00:22:31,313
Speaker 6: want to ask you to go first, because you've just

528
00:22:31,314 --> 00:22:35,314
Speaker 6: got any of your notes. Boob Kelly's booboob.

529
00:22:36,114 --> 00:22:38,874
Speaker 1: Like I said last week, lots of parties at this

530
00:22:38,954 --> 00:22:42,154
Speaker 1: time of year. Also, just being somewhere in Australia, we're

531
00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:43,314
Speaker 1: wearing a lot more dresses.

532
00:22:43,474 --> 00:22:45,234
Speaker 3: Christmas Day you normally wear a dress.

533
00:22:45,594 --> 00:22:48,234
Speaker 1: Everyone just wear a dress for Christmas Day, a loosid dress.

534
00:22:48,274 --> 00:22:48,834
Speaker 3: Yeah.

535
00:22:48,914 --> 00:22:52,994
Speaker 1: I get questions all the time about boobs and how

536
00:22:53,074 --> 00:22:57,434
Speaker 1: I get my boobs to stay up or people are like, oh,

537
00:22:57,474 --> 00:22:59,154
Speaker 1: I would love to wear that dress, but you can't

538
00:22:59,154 --> 00:23:01,714
Speaker 1: wear a bra with it, and lots of questions. My

539
00:23:01,754 --> 00:23:02,474
Speaker 1: boobs are fake?

540
00:23:02,914 --> 00:23:06,073
Speaker 3: Yeah we know. No, I love them, but like I

541
00:23:06,154 --> 00:23:06,874
Speaker 3: like to look at them.

542
00:23:07,114 --> 00:23:10,394
Speaker 1: They are very fat. That is why they sit the

543
00:23:10,434 --> 00:23:11,234
Speaker 1: way that they do.

544
00:23:11,674 --> 00:23:14,994
Speaker 6: However, even go to YouTube because when she said that

545
00:23:15,034 --> 00:23:18,234
Speaker 6: she did rest them.

546
00:23:18,394 --> 00:23:20,954
Speaker 1: But my aunt, it doesn't matter if you've got fake

547
00:23:20,994 --> 00:23:25,513
Speaker 1: boobs or not. You can manipulate your tatars into any

548
00:23:25,554 --> 00:23:29,313
Speaker 1: sort of pert shape you want. Granted probably not if

549
00:23:29,314 --> 00:23:30,434
Speaker 1: you're a g cup.

550
00:23:31,074 --> 00:23:33,394
Speaker 6: But if you're depends on what you want to do

551
00:23:33,434 --> 00:23:35,594
Speaker 6: to them. You know, you know how I'm really sideways.

552
00:23:35,594 --> 00:23:37,594
Speaker 6: You can like tape them together.

553
00:23:37,434 --> 00:23:43,154
Speaker 1: Exactly, So leave your yours are I've got very sideways boobies,

554
00:23:44,074 --> 00:23:47,594
Speaker 1: or like some people's if they're breastfed or whatnot, they

555
00:23:47,754 --> 00:23:50,354
Speaker 1: sag that little bit and then they want to wear

556
00:23:50,394 --> 00:23:52,914
Speaker 1: a bra in a dress to a cover the nipple

557
00:23:53,034 --> 00:23:55,394
Speaker 1: and then lift them a bit because they're You can

558
00:23:55,474 --> 00:23:58,074
Speaker 1: do that with tape. I used to do this before

559
00:23:58,114 --> 00:23:59,754
Speaker 1: tape was a thing with band aids.

560
00:24:00,154 --> 00:24:01,914
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I used to do it before it was

561
00:24:01,914 --> 00:24:05,874
Speaker 6: a thing when I needed hardcore like maneuvering with masking tape,

562
00:24:05,954 --> 00:24:08,354
Speaker 6: gaffer tape you don't want to take anyway.

563
00:24:08,354 --> 00:24:10,394
Speaker 1: I brought this in just for Shantel. It's the Illy

564
00:24:10,794 --> 00:24:15,114
Speaker 1: Total Coverage kit clear boob tape that clear yeah, that

565
00:24:15,194 --> 00:24:17,594
Speaker 1: you can get from Price And they've also got different

566
00:24:17,634 --> 00:24:19,994
Speaker 1: skin tones depending on your skin tone. But obviously clear

567
00:24:20,034 --> 00:24:21,954
Speaker 1: then works. It just might look like you've got its

568
00:24:22,034 --> 00:24:25,634
Speaker 1: taping on if you can see it, but you often can't.

569
00:24:26,274 --> 00:24:29,154
Speaker 1: You just it. It does not move, and you if

570
00:24:29,194 --> 00:24:32,594
Speaker 1: you tape it under your boob and then firmly tape

571
00:24:32,634 --> 00:24:35,554
Speaker 1: it over lifting it up, you'll get that lifted look

572
00:24:35,834 --> 00:24:38,033
Speaker 1: and you will actually be amazed what you can do

573
00:24:38,354 --> 00:24:38,954
Speaker 1: with tape.

574
00:24:38,954 --> 00:24:41,154
Speaker 6: Because I think just for people not watching on YouTube,

575
00:24:41,514 --> 00:24:44,034
Speaker 6: people might also think you're thinking like those little strips

576
00:24:44,114 --> 00:24:47,434
Speaker 6: kind of thing that like fashion tape or fashion tape.

577
00:24:47,434 --> 00:24:50,754
Speaker 6: But this is that's like a roll of clear masking tape.

578
00:24:50,834 --> 00:24:55,394
Speaker 1: It does not move. It's uncomfortable because masking tape is not.

579
00:24:55,394 --> 00:24:57,434
Speaker 6: Lifts that up and then start from the bottom because

580
00:24:57,434 --> 00:24:59,354
Speaker 6: I had it like a loose stress. It was very

581
00:24:59,354 --> 00:25:02,834
Speaker 6: low plunging and beautiful back and I didn't want cleavage

582
00:25:02,874 --> 00:25:04,234
Speaker 6: or anything. But then if I bent over, you just

583
00:25:04,274 --> 00:25:06,994
Speaker 6: saw my flapjacks. So I literally just like lifted up

584
00:25:06,994 --> 00:25:10,073
Speaker 6: my boob taped from there are exactly and it's just

585
00:25:10,114 --> 00:25:11,994
Speaker 6: like it didn't make my boobs look amazing.

586
00:25:12,034 --> 00:25:13,394
Speaker 3: We just couldn't see them from the side.

587
00:25:13,474 --> 00:25:16,474
Speaker 1: Do you remember back in the day, Kim Kardashian used

588
00:25:16,474 --> 00:25:18,874
Speaker 1: to manipulate her entire chest like you'd see her before

589
00:25:18,874 --> 00:25:21,594
Speaker 1: she got into a dress and everything was taped.

590
00:25:21,834 --> 00:25:23,234
Speaker 3: Preach she got, I'm showing my age.

591
00:25:23,234 --> 00:25:24,954
Speaker 6: She used to tape hers down because she hated how

592
00:25:24,954 --> 00:25:26,353
Speaker 6: big they were, like literally strap her.

593
00:25:26,594 --> 00:25:31,194
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing about boob tape is that it's comfortable, agreed,

594
00:25:31,274 --> 00:25:33,914
Speaker 1: like we're not using gaffa tape. We're not using it

595
00:25:33,994 --> 00:25:36,154
Speaker 1: kind of hurts when you move and you can feel it.

596
00:25:36,154 --> 00:25:39,474
Speaker 1: It's comfortable, and you'll actually be so shocked at how

597
00:25:39,514 --> 00:25:42,034
Speaker 1: good I agree your booby's. Look at how much confidence

598
00:25:42,074 --> 00:25:44,553
Speaker 1: it gives you. So you don't need fake tits, You

599
00:25:44,634 --> 00:25:46,234
Speaker 1: just need some tape.

600
00:25:46,954 --> 00:25:47,273
Speaker 3: Bohm.

601
00:25:47,474 --> 00:25:49,594
Speaker 6: Alright, I've got three, go on, do you want all

602
00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:51,434
Speaker 6: of them? They're very short and sharp, but I.

603
00:25:51,394 --> 00:25:53,234
Speaker 1: Just just give you a better end of the finish

604
00:25:53,314 --> 00:25:55,714
Speaker 1: the year on three shortened sharp once you know how

605
00:25:55,714 --> 00:25:56,474
Speaker 1: you love bobby pins.

606
00:25:56,514 --> 00:25:59,314
Speaker 6: Now, my hair is quite healthy and so it's very

607
00:25:59,314 --> 00:26:03,714
Speaker 6: shor so healthy today, so annoying in that bobby pins

608
00:26:03,714 --> 00:26:07,034
Speaker 6: often don't stay, especially if you've got you know, shiny

609
00:26:07,234 --> 00:26:10,034
Speaker 6: brunette hair is kind of healthy. Anyway, Spray your bobby

610
00:26:10,034 --> 00:26:10,914
Speaker 6: pins with hairspray.

611
00:26:11,194 --> 00:26:13,594
Speaker 1: Oh ding ding ding genius, change my life.

612
00:26:13,754 --> 00:26:15,114
Speaker 3: I wonder if this ever happens to you.

613
00:26:15,314 --> 00:26:17,394
Speaker 6: It's happened to me occasionally, but as an oily girl,

614
00:26:17,434 --> 00:26:19,794
Speaker 6: not as much but sometimes I use a new foundation

615
00:26:19,914 --> 00:26:22,514
Speaker 6: or just a combination of makeup and it's too matt

616
00:26:22,634 --> 00:26:23,954
Speaker 6: too chalky, just too drying.

617
00:26:24,514 --> 00:26:25,394
Speaker 3: You don't have to start again.

618
00:26:25,434 --> 00:26:27,594
Speaker 6: You can use a face mist, but sometimes that just

619
00:26:27,674 --> 00:26:31,154
Speaker 6: kind of blotches everything up pounds, as Kelly would say

620
00:26:31,154 --> 00:26:34,194
Speaker 6: with her I've used my fingers or a beauty blender,

621
00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:37,874
Speaker 6: just a very lightweight moisturizer on top of your makeup.

622
00:26:38,114 --> 00:26:38,793
Speaker 3: Have you ever done it?

623
00:26:38,874 --> 00:26:40,554
Speaker 1: Yeah, Makeups suggested.

624
00:26:40,714 --> 00:26:42,914
Speaker 6: I love putting my moisturizer on over my Oh the

625
00:26:42,954 --> 00:26:45,154
Speaker 6: finish is beautiful, especially if I'm gonna refresh and then

626
00:26:45,234 --> 00:26:48,074
Speaker 6: kind of touch up and last but not least at

627
00:26:48,074 --> 00:26:50,714
Speaker 6: this time of year. Many long term ubies will know.

628
00:26:50,754 --> 00:26:53,354
Speaker 6: I love putting antiperser and deodorant on my top of

629
00:26:53,354 --> 00:26:56,554
Speaker 6: my lips along my hairline because I just schwitz all

630
00:26:56,594 --> 00:26:59,754
Speaker 6: over my face. Guess what I tried and works just

631
00:26:59,834 --> 00:27:03,474
Speaker 6: as well. What one of those tacky kind of eye

632
00:27:03,754 --> 00:27:07,714
Speaker 6: shadow primers, Oh genius, I know is there to whole

633
00:27:07,754 --> 00:27:11,154
Speaker 6: eyeshadow and like not move like And I do it

634
00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:14,634
Speaker 6: at the end of everything, like, oh, I'm not well,

635
00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:17,033
Speaker 6: I'm really still really sweaty. But I love alid primers

636
00:27:17,074 --> 00:27:19,474
Speaker 6: because I've got such eily lids, and then I was like, well,

637
00:27:19,474 --> 00:27:23,394
Speaker 6: if you're gonna start my lid for being oily, airline.

638
00:27:23,034 --> 00:27:24,874
Speaker 1: Can you do my mustache please?

639
00:27:24,914 --> 00:27:27,354
Speaker 6: Bom bomb three for the price of what a What

640
00:27:27,474 --> 00:27:28,554
Speaker 6: a way to finish.

641
00:27:28,354 --> 00:27:29,194
Speaker 3: What a way to finish.

642
00:27:29,234 --> 00:27:31,394
Speaker 1: But like we said, that's not it for us. Well,

643
00:27:31,434 --> 00:27:33,394
Speaker 1: we've got spendy saving on Friday and then we'll be

644
00:27:33,434 --> 00:27:36,234
Speaker 1: back in your ears over the Christmas break in very

645
00:27:36,274 --> 00:27:39,994
Speaker 1: weird and wonderful ways the best. Some might say bye

646
00:27:40,154 --> 00:27:42,354
Speaker 1: bye