WEBVTT - Airport Divorce & The Podcast Cutting Our Grass

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, out louders, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to what women are

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<v Speaker 1>actually talking about on Friday, the tenth of July, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Mia out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Holly Wayne.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm m Vernon and I'm MEA Friedman.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoo, We've got mia On. I love it. And here's

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<v Speaker 2>what's made our agenda for today.

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<v Speaker 3>Two women with very high public profiles are going through

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<v Speaker 3>some very private tragedies right now in front of the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and I really want to talk about how on earth

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<v Speaker 3>you handle that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's also a very new podcast that's going viral because

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<v Speaker 4>the hosts are unexpected.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're coming for our job.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, And I thought that I needed couples therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually all I need is was this pithy new

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram trend. Just wait and find out what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>But in case you missed it, there was another big

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<v Speaker 1>wedding this weekend. So we talked on the show obviously

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday and on Wednesday and every day really about

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift's enormous wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>And on Fridays we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Do news, but I would suggest that this doesn't break

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<v Speaker 1>that because it's not really news because you've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of these people. But this wedding story bumps up against

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of out loud law, so I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the outlouders will be into it. Will Pelts, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's the name that many of us know.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Peltzes, you do know, because they're embroiled in

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<v Speaker 1>the Beckham.

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<v Speaker 3>They're Beckham adjacent.

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<v Speaker 1>They're Beckham adjacent exactly. Nicola Peltz Beckham is, of course

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Beckham's wife, and their wedding a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know well.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, really delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Mayhem. Taylor should have taken more notes.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like the Harry and Meghan, except they have money.

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<v Speaker 1>Four ouch from Harry and megsim Anyway, Nicola Peltz's parents

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<v Speaker 1>are called Nelson Pelts and Claudia Pelts, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>been married for forty years, which is no smaller gievement.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson is eighty four years old. He has ten kids,

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<v Speaker 1>eight of those are with Claudia, So the empire is big.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know that one of those eight children married

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<v Speaker 1>a British prince.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>What's so interesting is to me about this story is

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<v Speaker 3>that Nicola gives such only child energy. I never knew

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<v Speaker 3>she had siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just some siblings, because she said all of those, because.

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<v Speaker 3>You know they's so. It's always posing for pictures with

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<v Speaker 3>her parents, her parents. It's Brooklyn and her and her parents.

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<v Speaker 3>There are never any siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>In the picture because they won't fit in the frame,

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<v Speaker 2>many of them. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Her brother Will is a forty year old actor and

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<v Speaker 1>he just married for forty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, he looks eight.

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<v Speaker 2>He does look really young.

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<v Speaker 1>We discussed this is the age is really young, averys

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<v Speaker 1>not to ev it's not me. He just married his

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<v Speaker 1>long term partner who has blistering gen X credentials. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of us will care about this, some of us won't.

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<v Speaker 1>His partner is called Kenya Jones. Her mom is Natasha Kinsky.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that name at all?

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<v Speaker 1>She was a really she's an actress in a model right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's really big in the eighties, very cool, very beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>was in like art house movies. Was like the thinking

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<v Speaker 1>man's obsession.

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<v Speaker 3>For a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, remember I do remember him embroiled in a few dudars.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Her dad is Quincy Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>You've heard of Quincy Jones, legendary music producer, died a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. It produced all Michael Jackson's big hits.

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<v Speaker 3>So another Peltz child has married into a Nippo family.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>And the wedding, well, let's just say that it seems

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<v Speaker 1>that Kenya, who is the bride, learned some lessons from

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with the Brooklyn and Nicola wedding. And this

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<v Speaker 1>wedding is all over vogue and it is beautiful. But

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<v Speaker 1>what is notable about it, Mia, is it appears to

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<v Speaker 1>have been entirely orchestrated by the Peltzis. Would you agree

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<v Speaker 1>Claudia was the matron of honor, so her mother in

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<v Speaker 1>law was the matron of honor. It would be like

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse having Mia as her matron of.

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<v Speaker 2>Honor, didn't she I didn't even know matron honor was

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. Well it is if.

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<v Speaker 3>Your very you've made me think about this differently now whole,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's now all the clear that all the children

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<v Speaker 3>are jockeying for position to get paid well in the will,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's how much can you suck up to

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<v Speaker 3>mom and dad to get number one positions? So there

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<v Speaker 3>were so many things about this that were different, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was an exercise in sycophancy. Really is that how

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<v Speaker 3>you say it's sick of fancy? I'm looking at you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a tertiary education?

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<v Speaker 2>You've been planning and giography.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the only one here. So Also, Nikola was a bride'smaid,

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<v Speaker 3>she was the bride's mother. Nostasy Kinski was completely omitted

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<v Speaker 3>from the folk coverage, and she's iconic, and the bridal

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<v Speaker 3>party photo focus was just it. Actually it wasn't her

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<v Speaker 3>getting ready with her sisters or bridesmaids. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>the groom getting ready with his brothers, and just mostly

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of her with her mother in law.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to read between the lines of this

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<v Speaker 1>quote in Vogue. Planning alongside family was something I'd always

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<v Speaker 1>looked forward to. Will's incredible mother, Claudia was the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the process, as with everything she does, I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself learning so much from her.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Claudia planned the way she has been taken

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<v Speaker 2>as hostage.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, basically, I think what ken you worked out

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<v Speaker 1>is surrender, just surrender to the Pelts is because do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember that when Brooklyn and Nicola got married and

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<v Speaker 1>all the hell broke loose and are currently Victoria danced

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<v Speaker 1>on Brooklyn and all those things. They then had a

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<v Speaker 1>second wedding. Do you remember the Pelts house where it

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<v Speaker 1>looks a lot like this one. I was the only

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<v Speaker 1>family in the picture of the pelts.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, and nobody danced up him.

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<v Speaker 4>I also remember the leaked group chat screenshots of Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 4>going burgers for the boys and vegan burgers for the girls,

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<v Speaker 4>and Nicola going, don't listen to Brooklyn. He has no

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<v Speaker 4>idea what he's talking about. Guys, I have terrible news.

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<v Speaker 4>The nuns are cutting our grass. The nuns explain yoursel

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<v Speaker 4>Dominican sisters. They've started a podcast and it's hosted by

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<v Speaker 4>sister Miriam. So it's gone absolutely viral. If you're on

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok or Instagram, you might have seen some social clips.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a huge.

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<v Speaker 4>Conspiracy that it was so wild that this was Ai.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not AI.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was maybe satire. I did see a

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<v Speaker 3>social clip and then got quite involved and found it

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<v Speaker 3>quite soothing to listen to them.

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<v Speaker 4>It is amazing. So the purpose of this podcast is

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<v Speaker 4>to nurture academic, emotional, and spiritual growth by equipping individuals

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<v Speaker 4>or tools for self knowledge, virtue, and a deeper Relationship

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<v Speaker 4>with Christ and others, and it is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best podcasts I've ever listened.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds no offense to all our religious listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds really boring, So tell me why is this

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<v Speaker 1>not boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a little clip of the sisters talking.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard of one since super Lance. She tried to

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<v Speaker 3>drive the speed limit like the whole time, so.

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<v Speaker 2>She gave up speeding.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she gave us speeding.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I want to like work on having a work,

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<v Speaker 1>like a contemplative piece of Like she gave.

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<v Speaker 2>Up speeding for Lance.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't want to be really judging, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was like DCC.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it is very similar to DCC.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what's they're rebranding Nunnery.

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<v Speaker 4>They're rebranding Nunnery, And from watching a lot of clips,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, why do I want to join a convent? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand why I am so obsessed with this?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I saw it.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw a TikTok by a stand up comedian named

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<v Speaker 4>Yvette Sagan, and she explained perfectly why we are all

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<v Speaker 4>obsessed with these nuns.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep getting videos of nuns doing a podcast and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>realizing that I've never been happy before because these women.

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<v Speaker 5>They have one of them just like being like, what

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<v Speaker 5>do you like to do for fun?

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other one's like, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 3>just really like cooking.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the first time's like you're so good at cooking, sister,

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<v Speaker 6>and she's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just really love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched him talk for like a minute and a

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<v Speaker 5>half about ultimate frisbee.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just like gas each other up. They're just like,

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<v Speaker 3>you love altimate frisbee. She's like, I just love it.

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<v Speaker 3>We all flee together like yes, sister, Like, how are

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<v Speaker 3>they doing this? I know it's because they don't talk

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<v Speaker 3>to men? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 6>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's everything the Internet is not. It's positive, it's optimistic,

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<v Speaker 3>it's simple. There are no hot takes, there's no snark,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no Devil's Advocate quite literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what else? There's no talking to men,

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<v Speaker 2>oh or about men, or about men.

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<v Speaker 4>They pass the Bechdel test every single time. It is

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<v Speaker 4>just so good.

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<v Speaker 2>And wholesome, cool Bechdel test.

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<v Speaker 1>No. The podcast The Dominican Sisters, that's what it's called,

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<v Speaker 1>The Dominican Sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and I you know what, I think we need.

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<v Speaker 3>Aand can you explain to me why they're doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody's a brand now because God needs some brand.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to re educate people about Christ, so a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot about like prayers and talking about God,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the only man I guess they speak about.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're all controversial takes.

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<v Speaker 4>There are episodes where it's literally them just talking about

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<v Speaker 4>their hobbies and what they like to do for fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have loved to be in that strategy meeting. Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to rebrand. We need to rebrand, We need

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<v Speaker 3>to make the convent sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>Look with the nuns listening to this show right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I would like to know if there are any

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<v Speaker 3>none out louders.

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<v Speaker 1>I will too, But don't start thinking you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a podcast. In a moment, we will be back

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<v Speaker 1>with a conversation about women going through unbelievable things in

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<v Speaker 1>the glare of publicity.

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<v Speaker 5>There is no easy way to say this or to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about any of this. But late last year, our

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<v Speaker 5>daughter Whimsy got diagnosed with cancer and after a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of X rays, ultrasounds, and finally a biopsy, they immediately

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<v Speaker 5>called us and said that she had cancer, told us

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<v Speaker 5>it had spread and that she needs to come and

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<v Speaker 5>start chemo treatments immediately. Having found all of this out

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<v Speaker 5>and navigating this while postpartum, also loving and caring for

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<v Speaker 5>our other kids at home, also being in the hospital

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<v Speaker 5>with Whimsy a lot, and balancing work on top of

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<v Speaker 5>that has been really challenging. And finding that balance is

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<v Speaker 5>something that I struggle with on a daily basis. Some

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<v Speaker 5>days are a little easier, some days are really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's Narsmith, the twenty four year old model turned

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok phenomenon. She's famous for those dreamy, slightly unhinged videos

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<v Speaker 3>where she makes everything from scratch, like bubblegum, fruit loops,

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<v Speaker 3>butter cheese, green.

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<v Speaker 1>Gown with a full face of maker. People often call

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<v Speaker 1>her trad wife, but she's not a trad wife. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what she does.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's the tradi it's not the trade wife aesthetic,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, but it's the trad wife idea of sort

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<v Speaker 3>of doing everything from scratch and being a wife and

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<v Speaker 3>mother as your top you know, missions and purpose in life.

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<v Speaker 3>She's married to another model called Lucky Blue Smith, and

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<v Speaker 3>they have four little kids, including a newborn, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's sort of high Ballerina, but make it high fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>So she it's almost quite camp what she does. It's

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<v Speaker 3>very controlled and very esthetic though. And then, as you

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<v Speaker 3>heard last week, she posted this announcement about her two

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<v Speaker 3>year old daughter as cancer diagnosis, and I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 3>so much about it, and she started sharing she said

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<v Speaker 3>it happened actually last year, and then some people noticed

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<v Speaker 3>that she went a little bit more quiet on social

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<v Speaker 3>but now she said, whimsies through the first part of

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<v Speaker 3>her chemo, the first part of her treatment. And so

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<v Speaker 3>now she's sharing a few of the images and footage

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<v Speaker 3>that they took during the treatment. And I thought about

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<v Speaker 3>what an incredibly difficult line she now has to walk,

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<v Speaker 3>because she's not one of those influences that has ever

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the mess of her life. It's always this

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<v Speaker 3>very controlled, very esthetic idea of what her life is like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's as if someone did cooking or mothering for Vogue magazine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it looks like. Yeah, and how do you

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<v Speaker 3>marry the brutal reality of what's happening to her and

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<v Speaker 3>her family and her privately with what she still has

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<v Speaker 3>to do publicly because she is. I imagine she's the

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<v Speaker 3>main breadwinner. She's got a whole lot of contracts and

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<v Speaker 3>things that she needs to keep doing. She's a brand,

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<v Speaker 3>she's a business. Influencers are businesses, and so how do

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<v Speaker 3>you balance the privacy of her children with her brand.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just unimaginably difficult. And I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, particularly because also last week a very long

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<v Speaker 3>feature dropped in New York mag about another woman with

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<v Speaker 3>a very public profile who's also going through an unimaginable

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<v Speaker 3>tragedy in real time. Can you fill everybody in on

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<v Speaker 3>Savannah Guthrie.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked about Savannah Guthrie on out Loud before.

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<v Speaker 1>She is the Today's Show anchor in the US who

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<v Speaker 1>sort of think about like nap bar. You know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>been on Breakfast TV for a really long time, on

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<v Speaker 1>a high profile show. It's obviously bigger than Australian telling

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<v Speaker 1>Bell Doyle at the Height the Sunrise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah so in lots of people's living room. And her

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<v Speaker 1>persona is very calm, very positive, very like nations mum

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit right.

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<v Speaker 2>And she found out just on the eve of she

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be flying to Milan to cover the Winter Olympics when

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<v Speaker 1>her eighty four year old mum, Nancy went missing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this case is ringing bells for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of listeners. She has not been found, no credible leads

0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.480
<v Speaker 1>have been found. So at some point and obviously in

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate aftermath of her mother going missing, Savannah of

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<v Speaker 1>course used her platform and her media profile to ask

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<v Speaker 1>for as much help as possible with the case. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is a grab of her talking not long after the disappearance.

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<v Speaker 6>Who took an eighty four year old woman in the

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<v Speaker 6>dead of night, in her pajamas, with no shoes, without

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<v Speaker 6>her medicine? This little person, This isn't that case that

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<v Speaker 6>you are used to where someone wanders off.

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<v Speaker 3>She can't under art.

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<v Speaker 6>I think my brother, he said, I think she's been

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<v Speaker 6>kidnapped for ransom. I didn't want to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>I just sad because of me.

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<v Speaker 6>To think that I brought this to her bedside just.

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<v Speaker 3>Too much to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the most Both of these stories, obviously in

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<v Speaker 1>different ways, are just the most nightmarish scenarios. And so

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<v Speaker 1>Savannah in talking about that grace under pressure and how

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<v Speaker 1>you handle this when everybody's obsessed with your case or

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<v Speaker 1>your story or you She took nine weeks off work,

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<v Speaker 1>focused entirely on this and the search for her mum,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course she had to make a decision

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not she was going to come back, and

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<v Speaker 1>she did, and when she first came back the Today

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<v Speaker 1>Show audience really welcomed her in. There was quite an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional return. She talked about it a bit, but since

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<v Speaker 1>then she just she's just been carrying on and doing

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<v Speaker 1>her job as normal, because what are your choices? The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's interesting about your question, mere about what are

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<v Speaker 1>you supposed to do when the private and public life

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<v Speaker 1>is so out of whack. Of course, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that's different about this is that Nara Smith in

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<v Speaker 1>a way was able to This happened at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of last year, as she said that her little daughter

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<v Speaker 1>was diagnosed, and she has been able to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>under wraps, which to your point, Man, if she was

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<v Speaker 1>a different kind of content creator, she probably wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we have a comparison in our own Mum and

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<v Speaker 3>Meir family in the form of Kate Langbrook, whose son

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<v Speaker 3>was diagnosed with leukemia when she was hosting Breakfast Radio

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<v Speaker 3>and there's nothing more. I mean the whole bread and

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<v Speaker 3>butter of breakfast radio as the host talking about their lives,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was co hosting. I think it was Nova

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<v Speaker 3>Breakfast with Hughsey, and for the I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>a number of years that he was in treatment and

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<v Speaker 3>people did know, but the media never Everyone who knew

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<v Speaker 3>guarded her privacy ferociously and it was never made public

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<v Speaker 3>until she was ready to make it public. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>talked to her. I interviewed her about this actually and

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<v Speaker 3>talk to her privately about you know, the toilet takes

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<v Speaker 3>when you can't be your whole self. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, she said it was a respite, like going

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<v Speaker 3>to work and getting to joke around with Hughsey and

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<v Speaker 3>do something that had nothing to do with the absolute

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<v Speaker 3>crisis her family was living through. She said that was

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<v Speaker 3>actually a lifeline for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's a Nara Smith. I think if her

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<v Speaker 1>content was here are all my kids, everybody knows them

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<v Speaker 1>all really well.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not really what she.

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<v Speaker 1>Does like And so I guess one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about perfection, yes, And one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>is that's quite jarring about it, really is it makes

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<v Speaker 1>you realize, although in the case of Narasmith, it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>jarring because that is what she did, that we follow

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<v Speaker 1>these people's lives and we're invested in them, but we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know them, nor should we have that parasocial.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a reminder that Nara Smith is a human. She

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<v Speaker 1>cops a lot of criticism for whatever she presents, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as a lot of fandom. But like the post

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<v Speaker 1>that she posted immediately before this, for example, was a classic,

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<v Speaker 1>a Narasmith classic, in that she was in a revealing

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<v Speaker 1>like red evening gown and sonnies that were spon Con

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<v Speaker 1>and she made this whole amazing meal in her spon

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<v Speaker 1>Con sonnis and it got lots of followers and it

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<v Speaker 1>was great and everything. She's been doing that and doing

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<v Speaker 1>that four months while dealing with a little child in hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 4>I also think a difference between these two cases is

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<v Speaker 4>that one is self employed in the other one is

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<v Speaker 4>an employee, and I wonder how that plays out differently

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<v Speaker 4>Because I was looking through Naras Smith's Instagram and she's

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<v Speaker 4>been posting throughout the year, the gap wasn't huge, like

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<v Speaker 4>it was a big gap between her doing pieces to camera,

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<v Speaker 4>but she was still doing carousels of like her holiday

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<v Speaker 4>with her family, and then her last two posts have

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<v Speaker 4>been about her daughter and her daughter's health journey, And

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<v Speaker 4>the only thing I could think of is like, what

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<v Speaker 4>could she possibly post next?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that the way that Nara Smith has

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<v Speaker 1>handled this, which is like at the crux of it,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, is basically a woman with a job

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with something very hard and having to keep doing

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<v Speaker 1>her job. It just happens that her job is incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>forward facing. It looks like she is held off posting

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<v Speaker 1>til now because her daughter seems to be doing well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>her first round of treatment has finished. She obviously feels

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<v Speaker 1>that now they can breathe out a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>go public with it.

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<v Speaker 3>And she hasn't. I thought it was interesting she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>disclose what cancer it was. She did disclose that it

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<v Speaker 3>had progressed. She talked about a biopsy. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 3>Reddit threads, but I imagine there's a lot of speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that in the long term, what this

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<v Speaker 1>says about her brand resilience, empathy, Like who doesn't love

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<v Speaker 1>in a way like I have a lot of empathy

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<v Speaker 1>for her.

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<v Speaker 3>We should also make clear that we are not criticizing

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<v Speaker 3>these women in any way. We're very much coming at

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<v Speaker 3>this through the lens of as if it's not enough

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<v Speaker 3>what they're going through, Like so many women who are

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<v Speaker 3>facing grief or illness or tragedy or bereavement, you still

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<v Speaker 3>have to turning up and earning a living. I think

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<v Speaker 3>she has to do that when you're one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most famous women in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's handled it faultlessly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think pausing, like not telling everybody the minute

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, giving the family six seven months of privacy

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping the keeping everything moving.

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<v Speaker 3>Is hipping the child's face out of She's posted photos

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<v Speaker 3>that show her face in the hospital and the back

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<v Speaker 3>of her child's head, and that they've had to They

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<v Speaker 3>shaved Whimsy's head because she was going to lose her hair.

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<v Speaker 3>So they've what I've noticed, though, and again, this is

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<v Speaker 3>something that is so such a burden on women in

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<v Speaker 3>the public eye. We saw this a long time ago

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<v Speaker 3>with Heather Armstrong, who was one of the original when

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<v Speaker 3>they were what they were called mummy bloggers, and she

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<v Speaker 3>had a blog called Deuce and she wrote about parenting,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was one of the biggest influences on me.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought she was absolutely amazing and that was her.

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<v Speaker 3>She started a sort of as a way to express herself.

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<v Speaker 3>It then became a business. She then got divorced, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's when her audience turned on her because they had

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<v Speaker 3>invested in her in this parasocial way, and she never

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.959
<v Speaker 3>portrayed her marriage as perfect or anything. That was what

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<v Speaker 3>was so great about her. She was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>first to portray parenting and mental health and relationships and

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<v Speaker 3>marriage in all its hilarious, annoying, you know what's in

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<v Speaker 3>all way that it is. But when she then shut

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<v Speaker 3>the gate on what she was prepared to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>when she got divorced, her audience turned. They were like,

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<v Speaker 3>you owe us this.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's the case with Nara because she's

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<v Speaker 3>never she's never been in been that. But with Savannah,

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 3>she's had her mother on the show before. She's spoken

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.399
<v Speaker 3>that's breakfast television is like breakfast radio. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>your family becomes very much part of the cast and

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<v Speaker 3>part of the story and part of your story. And

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<v Speaker 3>so again, from a business point of view, they had

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<v Speaker 3>to navigate that. I was watching her do this interview

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<v Speaker 3>with j Loo and about her new movie the other

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<v Speaker 3>day and talking about Brett Goldstein and are you two

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<v Speaker 3>really dating? And she's so professional, she's so brilliant, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just imagined her thinking, oh wow, what you're going

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<v Speaker 3>through the awkwardness of it all? And she was amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>But it was overlaid when I was watching thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that if you watched her every day,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd forget, like I genuinely do, because I think the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is is that as you've already made this point,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that women and men are doing their

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<v Speaker 1>jobs every day with all kinds of shit going on,

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<v Speaker 1>sick parents, trude, sick children, grief, loss, divorce, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting on with it. And you'll be working with someone

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<v Speaker 1>and you often have no idea what's happening behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Savanah Grothrie doesn't have that luxury because also what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to her mother is an enormous national crime story,

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<v Speaker 1>so every development is interesting to the people. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you watched her every day, that would just become sort

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<v Speaker 1>of part of her story, part of her myth. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think twice about the fact she's interviewing Jalo today

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<v Speaker 1>and tomorrow. I mean, I don't know whether it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good thing or a bad thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>closure on such an awful story, but tomorrow she might

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<v Speaker 1>be reporting on something awful having happened in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>I did read that her.

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<v Speaker 1>Employers, because she's news adjacent and what she does, well,

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>not even news adjacent, but news is what she does.

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<v Speaker 1>They have barriers and boundaries in place for if what

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<v Speaker 1>would happen if there was a development in the case,

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and her not having to react in real time to it,

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>and her being able to come off the show and

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<v Speaker 1>all those things. I think it's extraordinary. But I think

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that women, and I'm sure meant to, but we're extraordinarily

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>resilient in the face of this kind of stuff, and

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 1>I think we get on with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at Princess Catherine. She just climbed three mountains.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was incredible. The way she was able to

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<v Speaker 3>to keep control what she kept private and speak on

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<v Speaker 3>her terms.

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<v Speaker 1>It started in a shamozzle. Remember when two years ago, Kate,

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.439
<v Speaker 1>when Princess Catherine was first diagnosed with cancer, it was

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<v Speaker 1>this global mess, and I think they bungled the beginning

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 1>and they.

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Learned a lot, and I think what they learned is

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 3>that people were really invested in Kate. You know, it

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 3>wasn't just the gossip. People really cared and when she disappeared,

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 3>people were concerned and they wanted to know. And yes,

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 3>that must feel intrusive, and it is intrusive, but in

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 3>many cases it comes from the fact that people feel

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<v Speaker 3>very invested in their relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And they handled it slow return, like just dropping her

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>into things slowly, slowly, slowly. And now she's very respective

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's become part of her story and she's raising

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>money for the hospital where she was treated.

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>So it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, in a moment, we're going to be back in

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<v Speaker 1>your ears talking about airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe me, you might need one.

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Look, I thought I needed to go to couple therapy,

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>but actually I just needed a pithy little Instagram trend

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and thank God for that. Brent and I are good

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 1>together almost everywhere except for airports, train stations, shopping centers, supermarkets,

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>all of those places we need a divorce, and luckily

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for me, that is now becoming acceptable quite a lot

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of places.

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 2>There's quite a lot of places.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me introduce you to the concept of an airport divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all over social media at the minute. Because

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>in the Northern Hemisphere, of course everybody's traveling, and down

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>here too, it's the school whole days. Everybody's traveling. And

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the idea is that very often in couples, and not

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>only heteroscial couples, but it might be your friend, it

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 1>might be you know, and also same sex relationships. People

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>have different traveling styles, like Mia likes to wander an airport,

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>for example, I've traveled with you, you like to wander.

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<v Speaker 1>M likes to be at the gate early. Yeah, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the case in lots of relationship We

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<v Speaker 1>all should be Sunday Times travel color Miss Hugh Oliver

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about he and his wife getting an airport divorced

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>in a column last year.

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<v Speaker 3>And I need to be paged for my flight. Oh no,

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 3>it's not time to go to the gate until you

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 3>hear your name called over the loud.

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.959
<v Speaker 4>I need you to stop, because I'm actually getting really anxious.

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 3>He wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get past the bag scanners and snake through

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<v Speaker 1>Judy Free, the friction begins. I'm just going to have

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>a look here. There's more Wana in the smellies area.

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, we all know that this is like an International,

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.640
<v Speaker 1>when you want the smelly's area perfume, you know, may

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the smellies area. I'm just going to have a look here,

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I shuffled along behind her. She handled the moisturizer for

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a few seconds and then returned it and again and

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a third time. Are you just going to pick objects

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<v Speaker 1>up and then put them back down for half an hour?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she said, that's what I like doing at the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was at that fateful moment that we chose

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to park company and link up later on the plane. Therefore,

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the airport divorced. Our mutual travel history is a series

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of episodes involving me repeating, shall we get in the

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>queue then, and her responding, but why so the airport divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>You get through security, you say I'll see you on

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the plane. Yeah, bye, of course, And this everybody did that.

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>No, they don't do that at all.

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh I do that. It doesn't it anyone that I'm

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 3>traveling with. I say see you at security because I

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 3>like to run my own race, and run is often involved.

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 3>Because I'll give you an example. The last time I

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 3>traveled a few weeks ago, I was going to Japan.

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 3>I was traveling on my own so that's the most

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 3>dangerous time because there's not even anyone who's like, where

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 3>are you, So I must have lost track of time.

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 3>And also I was thinking, well, they say boarding starts

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 3>at this time, but it's an international flight, so it

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 3>would take a really long time and I'll just get

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 3>in at the end. So I wandered into I realized

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 3>I needed an extra power cord or charger, so I

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>was just buying that and put some chewing gum, and

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>then this woman comes running and I recognize she recognized

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 3>me because she checked me in, and so she said,

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 3>quick quick, we've got to go, and we ran. She

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 3>grabbed me and she made me run. It was quite

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 3>a long way. She said, I you're the last one.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 3>The plane's waiting. This is an international flight. Yea planes waiting.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 3>And we ran. We ran quite a long way, and

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I kept saying, I'm so sorry, I'm

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 3>so sorry, I'm so sorry.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>We should be she should be sorry.

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I'd be in a shop in the middle of the

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Sydney's International Airport and she said, I reckon remembered you

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 3>from when I checked you in, and so I've just

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 3>been looking for you. Look for the brighter colored lady,

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 3>and so then there were just all people just and

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 3>then I'm just going to play going. I'm so sorry.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. No,

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 3>that is a routine for me.

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>For a lot of couples, the airport experience is part

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.719
<v Speaker 1>of the trip, right, Like you're if you're going on holiday,

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't fly all the time. You're going on holiday.

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>You get there three hours early or two hours early

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It's like we're gonna have a drink, We're

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it like it's part of the trip. The

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>point about it port divorce is recognizing that, no, if

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>your travels styles are different, you've got to get divorce.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like sleep divorce where they say I still love you,

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>but sleep in another room. Yeah, as I say, I

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>think they should be supermarket divorce and train station divorce.

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I just think when.

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 4>We're at an airport, it's really important that we stay.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 2>In a group.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, you're not going to like that, and that we

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 4>all know what everyone is doing at all times. I

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 4>once went on a work trip to Perth and it

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 4>was one of those work trips where it was like

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 4>me and then other journals from other publications. And then

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 4>a few of us had the same flight back to

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 4>Sydney and we were sitting at the gate, and then

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 4>one of them got up to go get a sandwich,

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 4>and she didn't tell me.

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, why would she tell?

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, she got up to leave, and I thought we

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 4>all agreed that we were all just going to stay together.

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 3>You're not penguin. We are though.

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 4>You are because we all need to know where the

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 4>gate is and we all should walk there together to

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>see where the gates.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Would always like to have someone to supervise me in

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 3>an airport, my husband jokes, excepts not funny that they've

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 3>got me on a little like not a no fly list,

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 3>but a little thing that it reads my face when

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 3>I walk in to an airport and they just page

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 3>me automatically to go to the gate. It happens all

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 3>the time, like all the time.

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Brent likes to plod up.

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>He likes to he'll walk into the terminal once you've

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>gone through security, and he likes to find a seat.

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's beer there, He would like that even better.

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.720
<v Speaker 1>But he would like he likes to find a seat

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>where you can see the gate. But like you know,

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the departure's board and tells you we would travel very well,

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and he will stay there until he's called, and not

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>he's called until the flight's called, and the minute the

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>flight's called, he will be straight there.

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>So as I like to wander, do.

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 3>You guys get wrung by the plane much? That's another

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 3>thing that happens. My phone will oft and ring all

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the time. I thought, anyway, my phone will oft and ring.

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Like most times when I fly, my phone will ring

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 3>and they'll say, are you still catching this flight? And

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I went, well, obviously, I'm at the airport. We're leaving now.

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 4>You do know, some gates are quite far right, so

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 4>you have to walk like good time.

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Know this. And also sometimes you get to the gate

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.239
<v Speaker 3>and you get to the front and you swipe your

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 3>boarding pass and they say you are meant to be

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 3>going to Melbourne and these plane is going to Brisbane, Mia.

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I actually can't continue to All of the airlines

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>have It's true, they have a blacklist view and if

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>your flight has ever delayed, maybe Mere Friedman's on it.

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Who knows, if you've messed up a lot of holidays.

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>The other problem with that is you can never get your.

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Can baggage in the thing. If you're late, you have

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to get in.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a middle ground person because I want to get

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>my hand baggage up, but I don't want to stand

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>in the.

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Queue for ages.

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, I was so stressed about traveling with you

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 4>guys for the Out Loud tour that they put me

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:30.479
<v Speaker 4>on a different flight.

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Late to the gate. Baby all the way.

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Vibes ideas, atmosphere, something casual, something fun.

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 3>This is my best recommendation.

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 4>It is Friday, so we want to help set up

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.840
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0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 4>if I go first, because I'm recommending a movie that

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 4>is out right now in cinemas. And I know it's

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.239
<v Speaker 4>a big deal to recommend cinematic movies because they do

0:31:58.320 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 4>cost a lot of money.

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>We have to take out loans these days. But this

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 2>is a really, really good one. To tell it to me.

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Been labeled as the Comedy of the Year from the

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 4>Carnes Film Festival, and it is. It stars and is

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 4>directed by Olivia Wilde. It also stars Seth Rogan, It

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 4>stars Penelope Cruz, and it stars Edward Norton And there's

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 4>no one else in the whole film.

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh really?

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 2>It is a play. It is basically like a play.

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 4>It's one location in an apartment, and it's open dialogue.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 4>It is so, so so funny. When I watched it

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 4>in cinemas, the whole cinema was cackling the entire dialogue.

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 5>Me.

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 4>It means that it's all just like it's dialogue first,

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 4>So it's dialogue heavy because everything else is very simple.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 4>So it's reliant on the actors bringing their best game forward.

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Did she write it as well, Olivia Wild?

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 4>It is written by Rashida Jones. It is And I

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.719
<v Speaker 4>wonder if she's got her new brother in law to

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 4>help her with this.

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, And I've listened to a lot of intusays

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Wild about this, because everybody's talking about it. Apparently

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it's the musty relationship movie and guidant to hear what

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>we said about that.

0:32:58.040 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>But she says she let them in provides heaps.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 4>It felt very improvised because the acting is so phenomenal.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 4>So it's about Olivia Wild and Seth Rogen. Their characters

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Angela and Joe are in our long term relationship. They're married,

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 4>they have a kid. They're living in an apartment in

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 4>San Francisco and It starts off with Olivia Wilde's character

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 4>telling set that she's invited the upstairs, their upstairs neighbors

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 4>who are also a couple, Penelope Cruz and Edwin Norton,

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 4>down for dinner, and it becomes this whole You get

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 4>a sense of their relationship in the beginning because they

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 4>just start to bicker, and it comes throughout the whole movie.

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 4>And then you're watching these two couples navigate each other

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.479
<v Speaker 4>and it has done so well. They'll be sometimes focused

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 4>on one person, sometimes focus on a duo.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 3>It is so interesting because I loved Olivia Wilde's first

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 3>the first movie she directed, Book Smart Amazing, which was

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>so great, and then the second one went to shit.

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Don't Worry Darling with Harry Styles and Someone's Battherone and

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Florence Pugh and Book.

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Smart went to shit as well.

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Like she had to get celebrities like Selena Gomez to

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 4>promo the movie because no one was watching it even

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 4>though it.

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Was such a funny, but it ended up being seen

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>as a big success. She is like building a really

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>credible career as a director in Hollywood. Esther Perel is

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a consultant on this film, and Penelope Cruise allegedly plays

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>her is that does that come.

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Across one hundred percent? And she does it in the

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 4>most funniest, like slapstick way.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>So she's the relationship guru.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 3>By the way, very interesting that this is a cinema release,

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 3>because usually the only reason to release something in the

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>movies is that if it's like Wathering Heights or a

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Marvel movie. So to have such a small movie release

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 3>cinematically it's.

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>A cinema release.

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 4>I think because it's a must group watch. You have

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 4>to watch it with other people because straight after the movie,

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 4>I came out and I'm like, I need to discuss

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 4>this film because it was so funny. It's just funny

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.280
<v Speaker 4>the whole way through that there's parts where you forget

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 4>that your friend will remember, and it's just such a

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 4>good time. I understand exactly why it's labeled as movie

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 4>of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have one more question? Should you watch it

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>with a romantic partner? Because I I've heard on the

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>podcast some people saying absolutely, it will make you examine

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>your relationship, and I'm like, do I want to do that?

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I think I want to do that.

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 4>I think it'll make you examine your relationship if there's

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 4>something in your relationship to examine.

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that's English. I don't want to do that.

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Now go with your girlfriend. It's fun. Okay, okay.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Mine is a bit of a sad one, and it's

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a really interesting, hopeful story.

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I hope so, Brent and I. We lost somebody last week.

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>A good friend of us from trivia died of a

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 1>heart attack, a bit like just an enormous heart attack,

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>absolutely out of the blue.

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>You no, it is really sad.

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>We play we play trivia with that couple. They're lovely,

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>their retirees who lived where we live. They're a bit

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>older than us. We really like them. And anyway, it

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is a very sad story. But when I was talking

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>to my friend about what happened last week, and she

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>was with her husband when he died, she called he

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>had a heart attack, and she called Triple O and

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>they were Weirdly, they weren't down where we lived. They

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>were in Sydney visiting their adult son, and they were

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>staying that night in a motel in Sydney. And she's

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>just told that the operator on the phone that she

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>believes her husband's having a heart attack, and within minutes

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>about four different off judy nurses and paramedics arrive at

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the door of the motel. And what I didn't know

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and she didn't know, but is incredibly important to know,

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>is that there is an app called the Good sam App,

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 1>as in the Good Samaritan App that first aid responders,

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe nurses, but also just people who who have done

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>first aid qualifications and who are interested in helping people

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>in their neighborhood can sign up for this app, and

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>if there is an incidence of cardiac arrest within five

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred meters of where you live, you will immediately get

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a notification and if you call Triple O to the

0:36:56.080 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 1>emergency services, they immediately activate that app. And so what

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>had happened is my friend it was early in the morning,

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 1>it was about nine o'clock in the morning, and the

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>operator had alerted these press go on the app, and

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it so happened that there's an apartment block across the

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>road that some nurses live in. Their app went off

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and so they were there in seconds, absolutely amazing. So

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 1>my friend told me about this, She said, have you

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>heard about this app? And I was like no, and

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>she said I. Unfortunately for them it was too late

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's very sad. But the thing about cardiac arrest

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>is you have to act really quickly. And the operator

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>was talking my friend what to do, of course, but

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to act really quickly. And they say this

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>app saves lives all the time. So I called New

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.439
<v Speaker 1>South Wales Ambulance and I said, do you need more

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>volunteers because I said maybe I could talk about it

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>on the show, and they do need more volunteers, and

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>so do other good Sam operations around the country. So

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>at the moment, the good Sam app operates in New

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>South Wales, Victoria, Tazzy in South Australia. Apparently ACT and

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Queensland are looking to implement it. Anyone who's over eighteen

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>can register to be a responder and they train you.

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 3>So it's not an app to download for people who

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 3>might need it.

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>That's no, not at all.

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>It definitely don't like think it's something. It's not.

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 1>No you you don't need it, you call Triple zero.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>This has nothing, no, not at all. It's for people

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>who want to respond. And the woman I spoke to

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>on the phone from New South OL's Ambulance said that

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.840
<v Speaker 1>she had signed up to the app because where she

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>lives she knew she had some elderly people living around her,

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and she was and they said that often. The way

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>they asked people if you'd like to sign up for

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>it is would you like to help a neighbor, you know,

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>in that circumstance. Now, of course, I'm not suggesting that

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 1>everybody should sign up for an app like this, because

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to be prepared for what you might be

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>walking into, and that is a serious thing.

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 3>But if you're a first responder, yes, if you've got

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 3>you have medical training exactly.

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>She says.

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the people who respond to this might

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>be retired health professionals or like nurses who are on

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>matt leave, or you know, people who are basically work

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in that area or have first aid qualifications. And so

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you can sign yourself up to good Sam and you

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>become a volunteer and basically the call goes out in

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>that situation and in a regional area. It's like about

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a kilometer away in a city area. It's really close.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And I just thought it was an extraordinary thing out there.

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 1>So we'll put a link in the show notes for

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the good Sam.

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 3>App and condolences and love to your friends exactly. She

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 3>She knows that because of that, everything that was possible, yes,

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 3>could have been done, because there's I know that in

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 3>situations when a loved one has to perform CPR and

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 3>they wonder if maybe they got it wrong, and in

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 3>most cases they didn't, and they always say, you know,

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 3>if there's no one around, you can't make things worse,

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 3>So just always try. But at least she she can

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.280
<v Speaker 3>take some tiny comfort in knowing that exactly.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>And she also said that the operator, you know, the

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>triple operator, was just outstanding, like calm and talked her

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.399
<v Speaker 1>through what to do. Like we all know that people

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>who work in those kind of professions and first responders

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>are a very special breed of people. We know that,

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's very stressful. But I just thought the good

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>samap sounds like an amazing thing that we put a

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>link in the show notes so people can can.

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Register if they're qualified. I am going to end on

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 3>something just absurd and wonderful, and that is Neil the Seal.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that so much, me too.

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Have you spoken about him on the show. I am

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 3>obsessed with Neil the Seal. Here's Tasmania's viral Elephant Seal.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 3>My whole feed is just on Instagram and TikTok is

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 3>just Neil.

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>He loves causing a ruckus.

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 3>He's back. Neil is a one thousand kilogram that's a

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 3>ton elephant seal. He was born in twenty twenty Nijobat

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 3>and now he's huge. He's five. He's a male. He's

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 3>still growing and.

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 2>He's still growing.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 3>He's still growing. If you see him, he waddles into

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>these streets. He lives in the water around. You know,

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 3>he's not a permanent resident of any of these little

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 3>coastal towns. He hauls out for between four to six

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 3>weeks every year, and then he heads back to the

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 3>southern Ocean and repeats the cycle. I don't know, maybe

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 3>somewhere else the behavior is very normal, but it's during

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 3>it's called molting season. Seals come ashore to rest and

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 3>to molt, and they play fight. That's what he's doing.

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Because he does things like he attacks poles. He like

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:36.959
<v Speaker 3>knocks down ballards, he knocks down fences because he's like practicing.

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>He loves an orange cone training.

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 3>He loves an orange It looks.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Like he's in it. It's like quite a belltoped neighborhood.

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like he isn't he. I wonder if thrown out

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>loud as he lived there.

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Neil.

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Please, if you've actually seen Neil the Seal, please

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 3>tell us. I was watching one reel and it was

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 3>this woman Neil came and her car was parked in

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 3>the driveway, and Neil just came and went to sleep

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 3>behind it. She had to call a boss and go,

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 3>I can't come to work today legitimately because Neil is

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 3>asleep by behind my car, and that's a legitimate extremes

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 3>be like understand, yes, So they've been trying because Neil's

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 3>not aggressive to people, but he's quite disruptive and he's

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 3>destroying things. He caused a lot of traffic jams, a

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of traffic jams, and a lot of damage to property.

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 3>And he doesn't like fences. He'll he'll knock them down.

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 3>So he watch some of these reels and we'll link

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 3>to them in the show notes. But he he's this

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 3>mix of aggressive and rogue but also very lazy, so

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 3>he'll just be like knocking things down and then he'll

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 3>be like time to map, time for sleep in the

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.919
<v Speaker 3>middle of the road. I'm just going to sleep and

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 3>no one can move him, so At times they've tried

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 3>to get like cherry pickt like cranes in and tried

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 3>to like scoop him up, and they've tried to take

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 3>him back, and at one point they had like a

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>they weren't hurting him, but just to like get him

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 3>out of the way. But Neil, we love you. You're iconic.

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Please bear our mascot.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely out loud as that is all we have time

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>for on today's show.

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Mia, Thank you am. It's been amazing.

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>We are going to be back in your ears. What

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>are we going to be back in ears on Monday morning?

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>See you then, bye bye, Mamma. Mia acknowledges the traditional

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>owners of the land on which we've recorded this podcast.