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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Sees the YA Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst days

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your YEA. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: Maidan and Matt Milk. Bar Cza is a series of

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Speaker 1: conversations on finding a life you love and exploring the

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Speaker 1: self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you guys experience this the same way

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Speaker 1: I do, but I walk away from some episodes wanting

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Speaker 1: to make lifelong friends with our guests, just to spend

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Speaker 1: more time around their energy and ideas. Morgan Mitchell is

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Speaker 1: absolutely one of those people who is both everything you'd

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Speaker 1: expect of an Olympic athlete and nothing you'd expect of

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Speaker 1: an Olympic athlete, all at the same time. Once you

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Speaker 1: hear Morgan's incredible self awareness, determination and long time passion

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Speaker 1: for sport, her success on the track makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: With a string of accolades under her belt starting from

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Speaker 1: the tender age of six. Two decades later, at just

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Speaker 1: twenty six years old, she is now preparing for her

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Speaker 1: second Olympics in Tokyo, taking on a completely new focus,

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Speaker 1: swapping from the four hundred meters to the eight hundred meters, which,

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Speaker 1: as you'll hear, is nowhere near as similar as you

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Speaker 1: might expect. What might surprise you, however, is her refreshingly

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Speaker 1: balanced approach to running, which makes up but one part

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Speaker 1: of her identity and goals in life. In fact, it's

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Speaker 1: her commitment to maintaining interests and a busy schedule off

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Speaker 1: encouraging all of us to remember that life is more

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Speaker 1: than just your career. So you'll hear about her journey

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Speaker 1: to the Rio Olympics in twenty sixteen, but you'll hear

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Speaker 1: more about it's after party as well as that time

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Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neil slid into her DMS, the James Cameron movie

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Speaker 1: she featured in alongside Arnold Schwarzenegger, the other forms of

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Speaker 1: training she does, including becoming an F forty five ambassador

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Speaker 1: and their first Olympic athlete, and everything in between. I

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Speaker 1: still don't really believe she's only twenty six with such

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Speaker 1: a wise and solid head on her shoulders. I hope

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Speaker 1: you guys have as much of a laugh as I did.

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Speaker 1: Morgan Mitchell, welcome to Seize the AA.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you just came from training what legend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean the schedule appears pretty full up

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Speaker 3: But I'm here now, so I love that.

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Speaker 1: You were like, I'm sorry, It's like, do I look

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Speaker 1: fair all? I mean, I'm like, mate, I'm back five

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Speaker 1: days deep in lockdown. Like you're talking to the ultimate

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Speaker 1: on for you. I was like, this is a famous Olympian,

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Speaker 3: Well, I should have tried a little harder.

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Speaker 1: No, you look amazing and you have an actual excuse.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing no things this morning. So well, before

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Speaker 1: so you know, what's something relatable about you?

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Speaker 3: Relatable? I tell you.

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Speaker 2: I was asking my training partners in the car. I

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Speaker 2: And honestly, like I get that there's all that started

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Speaker 3: So I think it all just SEMs from that.

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's such a nice one I had

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Speaker 1: on my list, like if you were struggling, you know

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Speaker 1: pull off. But that was such a beautiful answer. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, there have been probably many chapters of your

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Speaker 1: What was your childhood like? Mixed race heritage as well,

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Speaker 1: did you know? I know your dad was a former

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Speaker 1: basketball player. So is that where the sporting interest came in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think as a kid like I was six

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Speaker 2: But both my parents were great, Like Mum was into

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Speaker 2: took us to chess classes and then I'd be learning piano,

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Speaker 2: and then she loved painting, so we paint with her,

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Speaker 3: The series.

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Speaker 1: Mate, like you need you don't even have equipment. I

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Speaker 2: I will say, like I've always been told I'm way

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Speaker 2: you know, as a kid, I was honestly, Mom would say,

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Speaker 3: Thought I was a brother.

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Speaker 2: I would never wear skirts, never wear dresses. Nothing like

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Speaker 2: that appealed to me. It was all about yeah, running,

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: You know I had all these cards, like these Pokemon

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Speaker 3: I pulled them out maybe at the end of last year, Like.

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Speaker 1: What, mate, you could sell those for so much money?

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Speaker 3: I think I could.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's saying like you could make so much money off

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Speaker 2: of them, but I want to keep them just because

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Speaker 2: it's funny. Like to me, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine you're playing Pokemon either.

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Speaker 2: But I have two half brothers and whenever we visit them,

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Speaker 2: they just forced us to play. But I was a

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well I love that. You know, being

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Speaker 2: What's funny is like I remember when I thought, oh,

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Speaker 3: When I was six.

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Speaker 2: I remember writing it down because like we obviously had

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Speaker 2: I knew I'm going to the Olympics. How crazy is that?

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Speaker 2: Like I look back on it and I just think, how,

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Speaker 2: It's just my favorite story to tell because I remember

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Speaker 2: being in year twelve. I absolutely exhausted my sister's fake ID.

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Speaker 3: It popped up on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is back in twenty twelve, and they're like, oh

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Speaker 2: Rio is the host city for the twenty sixteen Games.

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Speaker 2: I'd been out of the sport for four years and

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Speaker 2: I remember calling my coach, my first coach, Peter Burn,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, I'm back. I want to

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Speaker 2: of giggled. It was pretty funny. And honestly, we just

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Speaker 2: it was caused from wanting to just party in Brazil.

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Speaker 3: And then I get out.

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Speaker 2: what anyone else thinks.

437
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 3: You're here for you, not one other person. It does

438
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 3: not matter.

439
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 2: It's what you can do at the end of the

440
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 2: day and what you want to achieve. And she's so

441
00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 2: good like if you fail or whatever, you pick yourself

442
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 2: up and go again, right, Like there's always another opportunity.

443
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 2: And that just made me realize, like this is just

444
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 2: a journey. You know, You're gonna have highs and lows,

445
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 2: and you've just got to roll with it. Obviously, at

446
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,639
Speaker 2: the end of the day, everyone wants to break records

447
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 2: and win, and that is the goal, but it's also

448
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 2: like identifying that even to get to that point it's

449
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,919
Speaker 2: just such a huge achievement in itself because of all

450
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: the sacrifices and hard work, which I think a lot

451
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 2: of athletes forget to reflect on is like what you

452
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 2: had to go through just to get to that point.

453
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: It's an incredible achievement, right, And it's like in any job.

454
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 1: I'd say, I'm so glad that you guys do work

455
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: closely with psychologists because of that, because you can beat

456
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 1: yourself up, like you become I imagine, such a perfectionist,

457
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: like the only goal is win, and so when you

458
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 1: don't win, it's like anything other than winning probably in

459
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 1: the moment feels like, oh I failed, even though you're

460
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: still number two in the world, you know, like it's

461
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: still a huge achievement. You just have to switch your

462
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: mindset towards. Like even making the Olympics is such a

463
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 1: minority in the world of people who get to do that.

464
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a small club and it's like, wow,

465
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 2: it's pretty cool, but I can make the ex.

466
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: And like the other thing is when you do hit

467
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: at twenty one, like such a high peak. I think

468
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 1: often we see things and I get really fascinated by

469
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 1: this in this podcast in general, often we see our

470
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: goals is like a destination, and then it gets really

471
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: hard if you reach the goal, because then you're like, oh,

472
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm here, Like what do I do now? And so

473
00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 1: when people attach all their happiness to certain things or

474
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 1: certain arriving at a place, they don't enjoy the journey

475
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: because you're always just kind of only trying to get

476
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: to this one end goal. Oh and switching your mindset

477
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: to oh, well that was just one chapter and now

478
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: I've got to, you know, formulate a new chapter and

479
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: a new goal. Talk us through like post your first Olympics,

480
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 1: do you go straight into Okay, what's the next Olympics?

481
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: And i'mlike, I think anyone outside athletics would think of

482
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 1: you going from four hundred meters to eight hundred meters?

483
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: It's like cool, she's a runner like normal. Nick was like,

484
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 1: what the actual fuck happened to there? Like they are

485
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: such He's like, that's like something from football to netball.

486
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: They're like such different sports. So here's question. He's like,

487
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: can you please ask Morgan why, like how did that happen?

488
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: Was it because you wanted a new challenge? Like to

489
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: the uninitiated in athletics. Talk us through that change.

490
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty funny. So after real like,

491
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: I just was so mentally exhausted, and then twenty seventeen

492
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: came and then I just had pretty bad mental health

493
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: is sh And then twenty eighteen came, I lost my whole.

494
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 3: Team, like no one was really jelling.

495
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 2: And that was my last major competition as a four

496
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: hundred meter runer, and that was the Commonwealth Games in

497
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: Gold Coast and I remember thinking like, I'm not enjoying

498
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: the sport. I'm always sad. I don't even want to

499
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: rock up to training. And in my head, I was

500
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: like do I just want to quit or do I

501
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 2: want to try something else?

502
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 3: Like I had no.

503
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 2: Coach, Like my best mame my training partner. He was

504
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: helping formulate some sort of a program and then we

505
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 2: trained together and hope for the best. And I'm trying

506
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: to remember Commonwealth Games. An athlete that just listens to

507
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: what the coach says. So when you don't have a coach,

508
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: it was like, well, let's just go in and guess

509
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 2: you know, you don't know if you don't.

510
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: Tryn't run that well.

511
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I went away to Europe for about

512
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 2: three months and I remember Luke Matthews. He got a

513
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: bronze medal at the com Game from the eight hundred,

514
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: and he was being coached by his mum. And I

515
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: remember asking you just as just general question. I was like, hey, Liz,

516
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: would you ever coach me over the eight hundred? And

517
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: she kind of was like hell, She's like, yeah, random,

518
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: you're a four hundred runner of but okay. I was like,

519
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: all right, I was just asking when a way to Europe? Honestly,

520
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: on like a three month bender. She started off at

521
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: coach oiler if that's anything to go.

522
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: By, Yeah, sure, so really health care kido.

523
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

524
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: And I was watching all my friends compete on the

525
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: European circuit and I remember just watching them and I

526
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: was like, wow, all my friends are pee being breaking records.

527
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: I knew then I didn't want to quit the sport.

528
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: I wanted to try something else.

529
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: And the reason I did move it was just like

530
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: the comparisons to Kathy Freeman and oh she's a wasted talent,

531
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: and it was just the outside external pressure that I

532
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: just couldn't deal with anymore. And how hard I trained

533
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: just to get to fifty one too. I was like, look,

534
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 2: it's not worth it. I think I can actually make

535
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: me something else. I don't want to do this anymore.

536
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I got back from my Europe troop,

537
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 2: like seriously, I was just not an athlete when I

538
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: came home and I just said to Liz, well, we've

539
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: got seven months to the World Champs. Let's see what

540
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: we can do. And she remember saying, look, let's just

541
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: try and get your fit. I don't think you might

542
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: not get to World Champs and you need to be

543
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: okay with that, but let's just see where we can

544
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: go more. Aim for Tokyo. I don't remember going to it.

545
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: We're making World Champs. It was already in my mind

546
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: when I was on that flight from Europe to Australia.

547
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't care how overweight I was, how unfit I was,

548
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: We'll go into Worlds And yeah, I made the announcement

549
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: and it's just like wow, I'm really about to check

550
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: myself on the deep end.

551
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 3: With going from the four to the A, it's just

552
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: completely different.

553
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: You're going from sprinting to middle distance, a completely different

554
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: style of running training.

555
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: I went from fifteen.

556
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: Kilometers a week max till about eighty kilometers of running

557
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: per week. Yeah, it was insane and along the way

558
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 2: there were so many people just bullying me, and it

559
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: was kind of looking back now, it was funny.

560
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: At the time, I was kind of focused, but I.

561
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: Was also distracted by it because I started to believe

562
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: what they said. But I just said to Liz mat

563
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it, We're gonna

564
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: do it. And it was so funny. At Nationals we

565
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: medled and then you know, a few months later, I'm

566
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: on the World Unis team, and then I'm in a

567
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: massive Diamond League Grace in London, and that's where I

568
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: got the qualifier and nearly round under two minutes for

569
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: the first time in the eight hundred and that's why. Yeah,

570
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: I was like, well, this is my event, We're in it,

571
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: and we qualified for Worlds.

572
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 3: My gosh, no.

573
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: One will ever understand the sigh of relief. I remember

574
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: going back to my hotel super happy, but I just cried.

575
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: I was like, finally, like when I put my mind

576
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: to something, it's like anyone, if you put your mind

577
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: to it, the results will come. And yeah, so for

578
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: me it was just like WHOA, I finally think I've

579
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: found my purpose.

580
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: Again with athletics. I don't want to quit.

581
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: I understand that it's going to take a few years

582
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: to get to my end goal, but I'm ready for it,

583
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

584
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it was an interesting journey. You put it perfectly.

585
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: Going from the four to the eight is literally like

586
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: going from football to network.

587
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: It's so hard to transition.

588
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: And I think Liz is such a good coach because

589
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: she's patient and we just did it so well and

590
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: we peaked perfectly, and she just said, if you do

591
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: exactly as I say, we'll get there, and then we did.

592
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: It's just comes back to what was saying before about

593
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: that willingness to be a beginner, Like it's not easy.

594
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: And I think probably because you did it, you forget

595
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: how hard and intimidating that is. But it is so

596
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: extraordinarily overwhelming to put yourself out there when the world

597
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: is looking at you to go screw it. I'm really

598
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: good at what I do, but I'm going to leave

599
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: that behind and start something that I'm not good at

600
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: because I've never done it before, and try it anyway.

601
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: That takes so much balls.

602
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: That's what that was.

603
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: The thing is like a lot of my friends from overseas,

604
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: all the elite athletes and girls I was running against

605
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: were so encouraging, like it just honestly, I reckon. That's

606
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: another thing that got me across the line because I thought, Wow,

607
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: these chicks are like Olympic medalists, well run on holders

608
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they're sending me random messages just wishing

609
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: me the best of luck. And for me, that was

610
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: just so inspiring, Like they knew how hard it was

611
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: to try and transition and they thought, yeah, this chick's

612
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: got nuts, like set books on it.

613
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: So for me that was super humbling.

614
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: It's just like, Wow, you've got these armchair critics that

615
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: just want to try and bring you down, and you've

616
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: got some of the best athletes in the world rallying

617
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: behind you. I think that's another thing that just kept

618
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: me going. I thought, Wow, this sport's really really cool,

619
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: Like you find some really good people in athletics.

620
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: It's awesome. It's like a big family.

621
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's so nice. And that's also like one of

622
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: the things I talk about. We're kind of mixing in

623
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: the next section, which is NATA, and that's all the

624
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: barriers or challenges that get in the way of your

625
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: joy along the way. And I think self doubt is

626
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: one of the biggest ones even if you're at the

627
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: top of your game, but when you're at the start

628
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: of a whole new journey, I can imagine doubting yourself

629
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: comparing yourself to others, and not just self doubt but

630
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: external doubt from critics who are like, she won't do this,

631
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Like that would be really tough to even wake up

632
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: the next day and get back out on the track

633
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: if you're not feeling like you're good straight away, because

634
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: you'd come from a place where you were fast, so

635
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: it'd be like so frustrating to go back to, you know,

636
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: being new. So I think leaning on the right people

637
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: around you is so important. But what else really got

638
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: you through those kind of doubtful moments?

639
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: I think, to be honest, like having a life outside

640
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: of athletics, right because I remember thinking, Okay, I have

641
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: a good team behind me that are supporting me. There's

642
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: always going to be someone that doesn't like you for

643
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: whatever reason, and you just need to accept it like

644
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: it's a reflection of them. You know, if you're happy

645
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: with yourself and someone's coming at you for no reason.

646
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: It's not your fault. There's something that they are going through.

647
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 2: And I think that's what I had to realize, and

648
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, I've still got my whole life to

649
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: worry about. Am I really going to waste all my

650
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: energy on this one person or you know, however many people,

651
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: I was like nah. So for me, it was like, yeah,

652
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: get a hobby, do something else. When you're on the track,

653
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: focus on it. But as soon as I step off

654
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: the track, I'm like, I'm not a runner. I did

655
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: not want to hear about athletics.

656
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't, you know what I mean.

657
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: And I think that was a good thing. Is just

658
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: having other interests in my life. That helped a lot

659
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: because you'd come back to it and I'd be like,

660
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just running. Like I know, people a

661
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: lot of athletes might think, oh, you know, you're not

662
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: focused enough you're on this, and I'm like, no, no,

663
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: i am, but I'm not going to waste all my

664
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: energy when it doesn't need to be wasted.

665
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Speaker 3: Like you know. And I think that helped. And I

666
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: think if you met my mum as well, you'd be like, oh, okay,

667
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: it all makes sense. She's like God's gift to this earth.

668
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: Well, your God's give to this earth and she just

669
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: made you so.

670
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Speaker 3: You know what mums are like, They're just awesome, and

671
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: that was a thing.

672
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: I think it's just nice knowing that your parents and

673
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: friends and family are always going to love you, whether

674
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: you run fast or not. I think that's what helped

675
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: get me through. And then working with Emma helped as well,

676
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: because she really goes into the mind and she explains

677
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: why we have self doubt and it stems from like

678
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: the cave man days and all of this. So when

679
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: she realized, oh, it's all just in my head, you're like, whatever,

680
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: let's just get this ball rolling.

681
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, you get over it.

682
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Speaker 1: Now back to the show. I think you're also the

704
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Speaker 1: most level headed athlete I've heard talk about Tokyo as well, Like,

705
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: of course, it's devastating, and people outside of the sporting

706
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: world probably don't quite grasp how much you are trying

707
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: to peak at the exact date that the Olympics is

708
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: meant to be on. But I heard you talk about

709
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: on another podcast. You're just like I mean, yeah, it's devastating,

710
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: and yeah we all had this one date that everything

711
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: was backdated from. But you know, people are dying, Like

712
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: it's a really tough time. There's got to be perspective

713
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: that it's disappointing, there's uncertainty, but everyone in the world

714
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: is facing that.

715
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: So and like we still get to travel the world.

716
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: Like I mean, obviously I'm not I decided not to,

717
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: but like a lot of athletes can still travel the

718
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: world and compete, like have some respect or like, you know,

719
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: be grateful for what we've been given and the opportunities.

720
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: Like you know, you hear of people's relatives, mum's dads

721
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: or whatever, getting even just getting sick and being hospitalized,

722
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: or even like hearing if people lose their sense of

723
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: smell and taste.

724
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: I wasn't really like complaining about an Olympics.

725
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: So you can say that because it's like, I'm so

726
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: grateful we can still run because a lot of people,

727
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: like seeing my sister even last year, she suffered quite bad,

728
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: like she lost her job and everything, and I've never

729
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: seen her go through something.

730
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: It was just a very dark time for it, and

731
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: it broke my heart and I.

732
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: Was a selfish one thinking oh, I've just got to

733
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: run and I've got to train, and I was like, well,

734
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't there's no Olympics I should be there for.

735
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: And that really put things into perspective for me. Yeah,

736
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: I just seem yeah, being an athlete, we're still human

737
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: for sure, but we do need to realize like we've

738
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: got it pretty good. Because in my head, I'm like, well,

739
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: if they can run an Olympics, run a Coachella, Jesus,

740
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: where are the music? If you can organize what is

741
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: it thirty thousand people to go athletes and officials.

742
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: West Tomorrow Land.

743
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Speaker 1: I love that you're just like most athletes only know

744
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: the world of athletics and there's nothing else that exists

745
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: in their field of vision. And you're just like, mate,

746
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: where Coachella at?

747
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: Like when you think about it, right, that's how like

748
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: privileged we are as athletes. Like they're trying so hard

749
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: to put this thing on.

750
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure a.

751
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: Lot of music lovers want to go to the next

752
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: festival like Austin City Limits or yeah, like Coachella or whatever.

753
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: Are you sitting back like, well, it can be done, clearly, Apparently,

754
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just yeah, I'm excited to go.

755
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, Oh yeah, absolutely, But I think

756
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: it's so refreshing that you just have other things going

757
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: on in your world, and it's it's fascinating to look at,

758
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, all the other activities and ambassadorships and ways

759
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: that you use your platform for things other than athletics.

760
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Even though that's why you're such a big role model,

761
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: and even though you know, we're so impressed and fascinated

762
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: by your skill and talent, it's just so healthy and

763
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: amazing that, you know, outside of training, you're I think

764
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: you're the first athlete to become an F forty five Ambassador,

765
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: which is a cross discipline, Like that's a totally different

766
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: kind of training, So that seems counterintuitive, but I love

767
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: that you're like, no, we need to, Like, athletes can't

768
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: only train on the track because your body is not

769
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: going to get anything from just repeating the same thing

770
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: over and over. So how do you sort of train

771
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: and how does like how does forty five work into that?

772
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: How to other forms of training? Like is it on

773
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: the track? You know ninety percent of the time. What

774
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: are the sort of quirkiest parts of life as an

775
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: athlete that we wouldn't know, you know.

776
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: I think if you can't tell when now, I get

777
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: bored quite easily. No, but I've always just enjoyed sport,

778
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: and I think for me, like my training, I'll be

779
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: on the track maybe three days a week, jogging another

780
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: three days a week, and then I'll have a rest day.

781
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: But when i'm cross training, I try to cross train

782
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: at least two to three days a week on top

783
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: of that.

784
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: And that'll be whether it's boxing, basketball, in the pool,

785
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: on the elliptical. I mean, it's like I just need

786
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: to keep moving, I need to keep breathing, and I

787
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: need to have fun. So if I don't want to

788
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: do the elliptical, I'll go and play forty minutes of basketball.

789
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: Just get three on stream. We'll all just you know,

790
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: have a shoot around. And then I found forty five

791
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: was awesome because it's like, wow, forty five minutes, I'm in,

792
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm out. I love the community feel. You get to

793
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: meet like people from all walks of life with different goals,

794
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: and then they look at you like, oh, you're an athlete.

795
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 3: But then I look at them.

796
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but it's my job, Like I have to

797
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: be doing this, and like I have to stay fit.

798
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: You guys, this is like a choice, and you know

799
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like that is so admirable to me

800
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: that people are like, yeah, I want.

801
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: To get fit today, you choose this pain I have

802
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: to be here.

803
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: Like, to me, that's just huge. It's so impressive.

804
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: And that's the thing I love about A forty five

805
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: is like all the workouts are different, the community feel.

806
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: It's just so much fun.

807
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: You can pick whatever time you want to train and

808
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: then yeah, you just get to meet so many cool

809
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: people wherever you are as well, Like I'm going to

810
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: the one tomorrow at Hope Island up here, and then

811
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: they'll be in Burly Heads next week.

812
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's the coolest part for me.

813
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, I'm all about fun and just

814
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: trying new things. And the quirkiest part of training is yeah,

815
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: let's just keep it interesting.

816
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: I'm on the track. We're very specific. I want to

817
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: have my gym days, which are like maybe two days

818
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 3: a week. It's very specific. But all of the other.

819
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: Maintenance stuff, like all the cross training, I just think, oh,

820
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: and I can't do anything. Let's just switch it up

821
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: because it's all about just you know, staying fit. So yeah,

822
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: that was cool. That was like when I got into

823
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: the box and I was hitting that pretty hard and

824
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: I got bored, and I was like, Okay, I want

825
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: to be in the forty five gym at least twice

826
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: a week doing one cardio, one strength because I feel

827
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: like it really really helps me. And I just know

828
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: when I'm in off season and I don't have to

829
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: think about running, I'll just go straight to forty five

830
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: three days a week and that's me done until i'm

831
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, summoned back to the track.

832
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: That's actually what I love about forty five that you

833
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: can never get bored because the class is never the same,

834
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: so you're always like, even in the class itself, you

835
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: only do an exercise for like forty five seconds, so

836
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: you can't even get bored in each exercise because you're

837
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: just about to die and then you're like, oh, next one.

838
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's such a laugh.

839
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Like We've got one of my best mates and we

840
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: usually go to the Laudi alic One and it's just

841
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: like a child like we're always bursting each other. For us,

842
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: it's like a MENI Olympics every time you walk in one,

843
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: because I always.

844
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Win but obvious, I mean, obviously.

845
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: It's so funny. But two, it's just like we didn't

846
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: even have to think. I love when you can just

847
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: work out and not have to think about it, you

848
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

849
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: It's just like, yeah, come in versus me, we hook

850
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: up Apple Watches. It's all.

851
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: Have you met Mark Wahlberg yet? Have you got to

852
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: like to put that in the contract? I feel like

853
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: you should. I feel like you should do it so

854
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: that you could beat him and then be like, hey,

855
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: I beat Mark Wahlberg like basketball.

856
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize. I honestly would love to Purson

857
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: in one on one.

858
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be so amazing. I would

859
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: want that would take like more viewers away from the Olympics,

860
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: like we all just be watching that.

861
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly back myself.

862
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Inside a tip for any punters out there. Morgan backs

863
00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: herself just saying, what about when you're actually on the track,

864
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: do you have any like superstitions or rituals, Like how

865
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: often do you change your spikes? For anyone who doesn't

866
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: actually know anything about athletics, like what's some of your

867
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: day to day running secrets or you know, quirky things.

868
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: That you do.

869
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what's funny.

870
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: This might be contradicting myself, but I don't really believe

871
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: in superstitions. For me only because when we are on

872
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: the circuit, obviously pre COVID, you're traveling every three to

873
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: four days to different European countries to race, So the

874
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: food's always different, the atmosphere is always different, the race

875
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: is always different.

876
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: Everything is different. So I'm just like, let's just roll

877
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: with it.

878
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to get into any strict regime

879
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: because at some point it'll be thrown out and I

880
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: don't want to crumble because of it. But what I

881
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: finally realized is I always have to put my left

882
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: shoe on first.

883
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: So is that a superstition? It just feels really weird.

884
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: That's kind of a ritual. Yeah.

885
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only thing.

886
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: You always find me putting my left shoe on first,

887
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: right when I just don't.

888
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: Feel right what it is. But I've picked up on

889
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: it because one time I was like, oh, I'm like,

890
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: let's just try it. Not doing that do it.

891
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, screw all that stuff, But I have

892
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: to put my left shoe on first, otherwise my wife

893
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: just doesn't I don't know what.

894
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: It is, spirals out of control?

895
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how did it come about?

896
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: I don't know.

897
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I always wonder, you know, when you're watch

898
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: Nadal and he has to do his little steps onto

899
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: the court and then he picks his weggie and then

900
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: he picks his nose, and you're like, how did you

901
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: figure out that that exact sequence? Like why the weggie

902
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: before the nose? What if it was the other way around? Head, Like,

903
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: how did you figure out that that was his order?

904
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: Of those twenty five different things?

905
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: Let's you on first, that's all I asked for.

906
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: And what about being part of game changes? So I

907
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: was actually really disappointed when I found out, and disappointed

908
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: for you as well that you filmed like four years

909
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: before it actually came out. So I'm sitting here going

910
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: she was filmeding with Annie and like.

911
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: Chin, Yeah, no, it was honestly what a ride.

912
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: I honestly forget that it even happened now, Like so, yeah,

913
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: it was straight after the Olympics. I flew to La

914
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: to shoot for about four days. So this is back

915
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, and it started off as a small

916
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: documentary that was the weirdest part like I remember Peter

917
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: Siddle's wife had messaged.

918
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: Me like, hey, you can't do it, will you do

919
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: it it? Okay, that's a small Dolockoan.

920
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: Why not? I'm free at that time. And then she

921
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: mentioned James Cameron. I'm like, yeah, I'll definitely be there

922
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: in LA.

923
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: I love Titanic, so yes, I will be there.

924
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: Literally, my mom was like, Morman, you loved that movie.

925
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: It was mainly Selene Dear.

926
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: Oh obviously have you watched her carpool karaoke with James Corden. No,

927
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, go watch it. I'll send you the link.

928
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: Dallas was my favorite.

929
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, then you'll love Salene. So they end

930
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: up at some theme park in Vegas on this boat

931
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: like singing Titanic. Amazing.

932
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

933
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: So I remember that was twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Didn't

934
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 2: hear March and I'm like, oh, it's probably died down.

935
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: But the trip to la was fun. Then they contact us,

936
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: contacted us at the end of twenty seventeen. I'm like, oh,

937
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: we want you in Canada for a premiere. We've found Arnold,

938
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: We've found Serena, We've found Novac, Jackie Chan, Chris Paul

939
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hang away, do you have the right number?

940
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the f I was like, I was like,

941
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: do I even still have a role? Want me in

942
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: this movie? I was like, I won't be offended, don't

943
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: feel bad. I don't have to be in it. Like, no, no, no,

944
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: we want you to be a part of it. That's

945
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: why it's taken so long to obviously get to this point.

946
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: So we go to this Many premiere in Canada and

947
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: that was fun. I got to meet everyone, go to

948
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: meet James Cameron's wife. She's like the nicest person ever.

949
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's is she the hurt Locker director? Or is

950
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: that his ex wife?

951
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: Oh? She's subject I know.

952
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm like I should have fat checked.

953
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

954
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: Like and then that was twenty eighteen, and then twenty nineteen,

955
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, by the way, we're going to be

956
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: on Netflix iTunes and this is all just before the

957
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: world and I was kind of like, like, I've.

958
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: Got to run in America, Hollywood.

959
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: I was like, this has never really been a massive

960
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: dream of mine, but yes, I'll go.

961
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: And then yeah, from there it just blew up.

962
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: And honestly, it was like the what I want people

963
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: to know is just like they were the most incredible

964
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: team to work with from start to finish, and James

965
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: Wilks putting that together, It's just incredible. What he did

966
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: where it started to what it became in the end

967
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: was just like, whoa, that's mind blowing, Like he's hard

968
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: work and the passion he put into it obviously showed

969
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: when you watched it, and with the help of having

970
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: James Cameron like it's massive.

971
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

972
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: For me, it was just like such a cool, humbling experience.

973
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: But then I remember thinking, Hollywood's fun. You do meet

974
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people and you kind of realize, maybe

975
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: it's not where I want to be right now, you

976
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

977
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: I think that's where it comes.

978
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: You know, it stems back to the mum and my

979
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: sisters just remained humble because you know, anyone can chew

980
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 2: you up and spit you out. So I just thought, yeah,

981
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: good night, let's go to Doha. We've got world chance

982
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: to focus on. Don't want to get caught up in

983
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: that lifestyle just yet.

984
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: So that was good.

985
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: But how incredible I meant? We are good friends with

986
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: Sidel and Anna. Do you know we have a vegan

987
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: cafe matcha milk bow. You guys, Oh my god, that's

988
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: our cafe.

989
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

990
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we were watching the progression of the film

991
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: very closely and it was just like mind blowing because

992
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: none of us are actually vegan. We were just blown

993
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: away by how the information that is actually really impactful

994
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: is often packaged the wrong way and not communicated so

995
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: that the masses and the mainstream don't consider going meet

996
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: free a few days a week, which would also have it,

997
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: you know, just as much change as less people going

998
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: fully vegan. So this film was like combating that exact problem.

999
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: It's not the stats that aren't persuasive, they're so persuasive,

1000
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: it's the way they're delivered. And you guys, and that project, like,

1001
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: it was such an impactful movie, and I think it

1002
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: inverted a lot of people's thinking who would never have

1003
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: considered that before because of the way you presented it.

1004
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1005
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's how you start, right, It's

1006
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: like you don't want to force information down people's throats

1007
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: because no one likes that across any issue, right. But

1008
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: I was just like, at least just give it a

1009
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: crack or just try it, or you know, I'm like,

1010
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: I'm not here to force anyone to do anything, because

1011
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want that done to me, but that it

1012
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: was quite funny. A lot of my friends are like,

1013
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: I fucking hate you. I was like, you know, like

1014
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: even when we're out, they do want to try vegan

1015
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 2: cafes and restaurants, and I'm like, oh, that's actually pretty

1016
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: cool because I'm super chill. I We go to like

1017
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: meeting Wineko and I'll just get a salad. Like I'm

1018
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: not one to ruin the night out. I just want

1019
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: to hang with my friends. But it is nice knowing like,

1020
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: oh they're a little bit more mindful and accepting of it,

1021
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: Like oh, well, then that's job done.

1022
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1023
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: That's like step one. You can't just expect people to

1024
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: jump into the deep end and swim right. And I

1025
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: think that's what Game Changes did really well, is just

1026
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: to get people thinking. Some people did just want to

1027
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: go straight into it, so I'm just wanting to explore.

1028
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: And it was, ah, that's actually really cool that they

1029
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: got their point across. So yeah, kudas to James Cameron

1030
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: and team.

1031
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they had great tools and they had the

1032
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: great Morgan Metell as part of it, which is obviously

1033
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: why everyone else said yes. I mean, let's be real,

1034
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: you you started at all? When did you go vegan?

1035
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: What was your kind of journey with plant based eating?

1036
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: Pretty funny at the end of twenty fourteen, And.

1037
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 2: Honestly, it was just an ex that tried every single

1038
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: diet under the sun. And he's like, hey, I never

1039
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: wanted to try it. I'm like, how old was I?

1040
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: I was like what nineteen twenty? Was like, I don't

1041
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: really want to do I don't want to do your

1042
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: kido diet, I don't want to do your high car

1043
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: bloke like I don't care.

1044
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine you're tolerating just being like, mate,

1045
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: come on, let's just eat.

1046
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. One day he comes in, he's like, we should

1047
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: go vegan. I just said yes.

1048
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: I was like sure, And I think I don't know

1049
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 2: if it was to shut him up or something deep

1050
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: within my sub one just clicked.

1051
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: But from that day on I just dropped everything and

1052
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: went vegan.

1053
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1054
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: Really weird.

1055
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: And then he started telling me the impact it had

1056
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: on the environment and the animals, and I think that's

1057
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: what broke my heart. You watch a few videos about

1058
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: the animals and I'm like, nah, I just but that

1059
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: is just you know, you start tearing up and it

1060
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: makes you really question like the choices you make in life.

1061
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: And for me, that was what got me across the line.

1062
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: And then I thought, oh, I'm still an athlete. I

1063
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: need to see a diet tissue if I want to

1064
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: take this seriously, because I had no idea what I

1065
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: was doing. Then I saw one out from Sids and Anna,

1066
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: and yeah, we's got the ball rolling and it seemed

1067
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 2: to work.

1068
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 3: Like I've been vegan ever since Time Flies though.

1069
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: I think that was what was so amazing about that

1070
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: film that there's a lot of information out there about,

1071
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, why the environment will benefit why from an

1072
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: animal rights perspective, obviously vegan is the preferable lifestyle, but

1073
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: people don't actually think that from a performance aspect, like

1074
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: I think they think there's a sacrifice for athletes. But

1075
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: the fact that you are all elite athletes in this

1076
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: movie and it's still performing really well was like quite quite.

1077
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say game changing, but obviously I'm

1078
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: not going to say that. I like it was really

1079
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: revolutionary because people were like, wow, you guys aren't slower

1080
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: or struggling to put on muscle mass, or you know,

1081
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: you're you're still and not even still, like in some

1082
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: cases people's performance improved.

1083
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I think that was the other

1084
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: thing is like you obviously need the evidence, right, you

1085
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: can't just convince people without evidence.

1086
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: So it was nice even meeting some of those athletes.

1087
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: I thought, wow, I.

1088
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: Just feel like a little plug compared to some of them,

1089
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: like they put in I thought, that's just freaking amazing.

1090
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: But I always tell people, I'm like, if you want

1091
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: to go vegan, it's like anything. If you're seek you

1092
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: see a doctor. You want to get your teeth checked,

1093
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: You don't do it yourself and look in the mirror.

1094
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: You go to a dentist. So if you want to

1095
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: change a diet, so your diet t ship.

1096
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: Like, seek out the professionals, you know. But it just

1097
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: seems like you mentioned veganism, people just think it's dumb

1098
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: and stupid and you can't do it.

1099
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 3: It's like, well, if you want to change with anything,

1100
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: you go, And that's what I did. I want to

1101
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: go find someone that knows what they're doing.

1102
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, get help, get professionals on board.

1103
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: Because once you get the professional help, they give you

1104
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: all the information and then They tell you what you

1105
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: need to eat when you need to eat it. And

1106
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: I think that's why I ran so well in twenty

1107
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: sixteen as well.

1108
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: With my dietitian. She was just like bang bang bang

1109
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: bang bang, stick to this and you'll be fine.

1110
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: And then yeah, ran my pbe made the Olympics and

1111
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: was undefeated that whole season.

1112
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: There you go, there, you go invest and you'll get

1113
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 3: the return.

1114
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: The proof is in the plants.

1115
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, now, Like I know that

1116
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: you run much milk, but I don't know if you

1117
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: have any fronteurs.

1118
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: Is that it? Yeah?

1119
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: Sorry guys, Yeah, I would love one a sushi train

1120
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: because I just don't think there are enough in Melbourne,

1121
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: but a vegan sushi train, like I would want a

1122
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: vision one. But when you think about it, because like

1123
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: I love sushi, I was just like, why are there

1124
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: any sushi trains?

1125
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 3: Or am I missing something? You know what I mean?

1126
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: No, I don't think there are.

1127
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: You've got the blueprint, you've started a restaurant. I'm just

1128
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: saying I had, I just don't know it to start.

1129
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like our big thing was looking at where those

1130
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: gaps were, Like what were the things that because all

1131
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: the kind of plant based or even vegetarian restaurants that

1132
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: already existed, not so much now, but when we first

1133
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: started in twenty sixteen were very woo woo hippie earth mother,

1134
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: which is amazing, but it's one category that's quite intimidating

1135
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: to certain parts of society that we also wanted to

1136
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: be able to access plant based eating. So we looked

1137
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: in like the gaps of like what's missing. Well, obviously

1138
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: sushi is a big gap, but breakfast like eggs, And

1139
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: that's why we made the vegan egg because we were like,

1140
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: you can't go out for breakfast and have breakfast if

1141
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: you can't eat eggs. Yeah, And I think it's areas

1142
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: like you know, when KFC opened next door, we were like, well,

1143
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: we need to obviously figure out some vegan fried chicken

1144
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: that actually tastes like chicken, actually has protein in it

1145
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: and isn't just Cashew's and you know, nutritionally not that great.

1146
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: And I think sushi is like the next step. It's like,

1147
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: what are things that are traditionally so meat based that

1148
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: no one can even kind of fathom how to do

1149
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: it otherwise?

1150
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's only one place in Sydney or I

1151
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: can get good sushi and I'm not I mean other

1152
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: than this year.

1153
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm not usually in Sydney that often.

1154
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ida, if you as a book, sorry we've you know,

1155
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: we've just got off the track a bit.

1156
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: So guys, in three months time, when you see a

1157
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: vegan sushi train open, it's a joint Mitchell Davidson protect.

1158
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: To make sure you can get it rolling.

1159
00:50:51,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: Rolling. There's little train rolling, get it rolling. Or the

1160
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: last section, which is actually probably the easiest one for

1161
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: you and I love, we've actually already touched on it.

1162
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: It's play ta And this is the part where we

1163
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: separate people's identity from their work and find out what

1164
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: they do just for joy, which is usually a lot

1165
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: more difficult to get it out of them, particularly because

1166
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: I have the privilege of speaking to people who love

1167
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: their job, which means they often don't feel like they

1168
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: need anything outside. But I think, as we've talked about,

1169
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: you know, you're so much better at what you do

1170
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: when you take space away from it and let yourself

1171
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: just do things that make you forget what time it

1172
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: is and play. So other than Yu gi oh and Pokemon,

1173
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: what do you do? But this is the thing, right.

1174
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: So my podcast is called CZA because yeah is a

1175
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: juvenile word, and we take ourselves so seriously. You know,

1176
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: we've become really serious, boring adults and we lose it

1177
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: inner child. But I think being a big kid is

1178
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: what this section is about.

1179
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. So things I like love to do.

1180
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like that's not productive. So I think we

1181
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: don't give ourselves time to waste time, if that makes sense,

1182
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: like watch TV or read a book, or do puzzles

1183
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: or just stuff that you do that's purely for joy.

1184
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 3: Well, don't judge anyone listening.

1185
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: We're all judging.

1186
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: So it's always been my dream to move to Spain

1187
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: at the end of my career.

1188
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to disappear and get off social

1189
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 2: media and just like fully immerse myself in Spanish culture.

1190
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: So I'm learning Spanish. It's like I love watching Spanish

1191
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: TV shows and movies. That's like my number one thing

1192
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: at the moment. And then I love playing piano when

1193
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm home and hours on the piano and it's like,

1194
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, you're so focused on it and just like

1195
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 2: playing songs that you forget that the world even exists.

1196
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. My final thing is sudoku. I don't really want.

1197
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: To admit it, but it is no babe, you have

1198
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: no idea. If I wasn't wearing pajamas and I don't

1199
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: want to get up and show you my pajamas, I

1200
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: would go and get you all the sudoku books that

1201
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: are under my pillow.

1202
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 3: Really, oh my, how much fun?

1203
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: Is this?

1204
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: So much fun? Do you know what it is? So

1205
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: I think when people are struggling to figure out what

1206
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: their platia is, I try and like get them to

1207
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: think about when they forget what time it is. And

1208
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: the only things that pull your brain in that much

1209
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: that you forget, like you disconnect from when you are

1210
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: and where you are are things that require enough concentration

1211
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: like Sudoku, like your problem solving, that you can't be

1212
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: doing anything else at the same time. But they're not

1213
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: so hard that you get tired.

1214
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1215
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: Literally, I love it. Like I always have a book

1216
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: in my bag when I'm traveling, like always.

1217
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, they're picking up.

1218
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: On it because now the books are getting prettier and

1219
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: they've got like different graphics, and I'm like, oh my god,

1220
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: I need every book because because esthetically to me, they're

1221
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: so pleasing halfway through the first one, let me give

1222
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: me a break.

1223
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: But then sometimes I get to the point where, like,

1224
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: you know, when you just want to win, you just

1225
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: do an easy one. When you want a bit of

1226
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: a challenge, you do a medium one. And some days

1227
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want you know, I want my

1228
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: mind to be stretched myself, and I'll go straight to

1229
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: a hard one. But I'll get to the point where

1230
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: I just can't get any further and I'll throw the

1231
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: book and be like fuck this like and I'll go

1232
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: back to easy so I can finish it the.

1233
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: Back of the I'm just gonna have a peak.

1234
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the answer is just need.

1235
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: One number and then I'll be fine.

1236
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do the exact same thing that it's like

1237
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: easy when you just don't a thing medium, when you do.

1238
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: A challenge, prove myself, I'm going to go straight to

1239
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 3: the elite lift. Yeah.

1240
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: I never last on elite. I never last. I'm like,

1241
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: this is I don't want it to be this hard,

1242
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: Like I want a challenge, but I don't want to

1243
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: feel like totally you know, a moron. Second last question,

1244
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: what are three interesting things about you that don't normally

1245
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: come up in conversation.

1246
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 3: Really interesting things.

1247
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you have neffer t as a tattoo. I

1248
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: know that.

1249
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone loves it. I've attached on the inside of

1250
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: my lips. It surprises people.

1251
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, also because they don't last right.

1252
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: Well they do apparently because mine's still there and I

1253
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: got it when I was nineteen. Let your teeth rubs,

1254
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 2: so do rub it not. I'm like, oh, if that's

1255
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: the case, let's just get yo. Now I'm stuck with YO.

1256
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 3: Show me.

1257
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: You always such a good one. Oh my god, that's

1258
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: the best.

1259
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: It's not.

1260
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: I was at the dentisty the other day and he

1261
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: was like, what what is tattoo?

1262
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: This fixed?

1263
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: Just let me alone, don't look, don't judge, do your job.

1264
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, because people think that they dissolve

1265
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: after six months, people think you got that recently, so

1266
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: we're all judging you as if you got it now.

1267
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 3: Literally, it didn't hurt at all. It was the weirdest feeling.

1268
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: It was just like, I don't even like, not even

1269
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: a scratch. Very interesting.

1270
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: Like if I had known that would be the pain,

1271
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: I definitely would have something.

1272
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: Else, which is good because you probably would have got

1273
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: like a full like character like a like a Pokemon

1274
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: on the inside, like a Bulbosare or something.

1275
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: That'd actually be better because I've got Yo with an

1276
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: exclamation mark, so people think it says yolo and the

1277
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: other O just rubbed off.

1278
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: If you it doesn't say Yolo, I'm dumb. I'm not

1279
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: that dumb.

1280
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm Yo dumb. I'm not Yolo dumb like those levels

1281
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: you know.

1282
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 3: Oh my god, literally, I'm not.

1283
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: That should be in your bio on Instagram. Well that's

1284
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: a good one. What are two other random interesting facts?

1285
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is interesting, but at the

1286
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: start of the year, I like literally broke like four

1287
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 2: of my toes what playing NERF guns. Then I smacked

1288
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: one on the side of the door, and then from

1289
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: running in shoes that were too small because I forgot

1290
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: some snakers, And I'm like, it's even interesting.

1291
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: It's just disgusting, But it's so interesting.

1292
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: You're an that you rely on having like non broken.

1293
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: Toes, Like yeah, like I said, I had never been injured,

1294
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: and then I get this achilles injury and break like

1295
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: four of my toes.

1296
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: Being also such an idiot that you broke them all separately.

1297
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't like one fall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like when I had to tell my coach. The

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Speaker 2: first time was playing with nerf Guds. She saw red.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I don't think I can run

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Speaker 2: for a few days. And now all the toenails are.

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Speaker 3: Falling off, so gross. Another interesting thing, actually I have

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Speaker 3: nine there's nine of us.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when I was thinking about it the other day.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is interesting about me? And every time

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Speaker 2: I tell people that there's nine of us because obviously

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Speaker 2: people and me ever really see Brittany my like.

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Speaker 3: She's like my best friend, but she's my younger sister. Like, no,

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Speaker 3: there's nine. There's what two boys and seven girls?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So Christmas you're like, actually broke?

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Speaker 3: No, no, we all Yeah, one's like four in a chuka.

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Speaker 3: Then there's us three chuca Yeah random, so random, right,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so there's nine of us, all like half.

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Speaker 2: But then I had my two full sisters, Live and

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Speaker 2: brit and we're all of your apart and I in

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Speaker 2: the middle child. Wow.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool. Oh well, last question, because I love

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Speaker 1: quotes so much, as I mentioned, what's your favorite quote?

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Speaker 3: My favorite quote is you don't know if you don't try.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's so you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just like, oh, fuck it, let's just

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I love it. So this whole thing, like platia,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing of figuring out what you love to do.

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Speaker 1: Like so many people, particularly when I was a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: so many people would be like, I just don't know

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Speaker 1: what I'm passionate about. And I'd be like, well, what

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Speaker 1: have you tried? And They'd be like, well, nothing except

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Speaker 1: what I do. And I'm like, mate, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to figure out what you're joyful and passionate about if

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Speaker 1: you don't just try random shit. So I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what kind of law if you don't have me

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Speaker 3: asking me?

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Speaker 1: I did Mergen acquisitions, so really corporate like shares and

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Speaker 1: yeah that's impressive. Just a lot of paper pushing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah wow. How long did you do that?

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Speaker 1: For four years?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god? And then were you just like not

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Speaker 3: want to try something else?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So it's such a long story, but there it was

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Speaker 1: a total accident. I went to Africa, got a parasite,

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Speaker 1: got really sick, couldn't drink coffee, discovered Matcher because I

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Speaker 1: could have the caffeine, and then needed some for myself

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Speaker 1: and my husband and I bought some. It arrived, it

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Speaker 1: was two million serves too many for two people to

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Speaker 1: consume by the due date, and so we started selling

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Speaker 1: it and then it just took off and we got

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Speaker 1: into urban outfitters in the US. I had to leave

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Speaker 1: my job to be able to fulfill that order, and

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Speaker 1: I went from like having a ten year plan to

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Speaker 1: having not even a ten minute plan, just sort of

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Speaker 1: being like, ah, trying to survive. And then a year

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Speaker 1: after that where you started Match of Milk Bar, and

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Speaker 1: then a year after that started the podcast and have

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Speaker 1: just sort of been on this Like that's where CZA

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Speaker 1: came from. The whole idea that people who are really

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Speaker 1: unhappy with where they are, they'll inevitably reach a turning

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Speaker 1: point and they've changed their life because it's too uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: But if you're just blah, like if you just got

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Speaker 1: a good job, you get paid, you've got stability, you

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Speaker 1: often don't ask any more questions. And that was me.

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Speaker 1: I would never have left because I was like, I

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Speaker 1: kind of like suits, I'm kind of Megan Markle. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of fine. But by accident I realized, actually, I'm

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Speaker 1: way more creative.

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Speaker 3: And I'm that's so awesome.

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Speaker 1: I love people and I love storytelling, and I would

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Speaker 1: never have known that unless I just went and tried

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Speaker 1: something different, which is why that quote for me is like,

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Speaker 1: that's what this show is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, shout out to the parasite.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to go and get a parasite and see

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Speaker 1: what happens. You drink coffee now, and yeah, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: also but I didn't for like six years. I had

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Speaker 1: a drain of fatigue really badly, and so I had

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Speaker 1: to quit alcohol, coffee, anything that was a real stimulant

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Speaker 1: for your body, so like refined sugar. I had to

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Speaker 1: just go and super super clean diet, lots of like

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Speaker 1: naturalropathy like a puncture. Yeah, big health kick for like

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Speaker 1: six years and then slowly sort of started to reintegrate

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Speaker 1: normal things. Yeah rats, thanks man, says the Olympian.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, when you really think about it, it's just running.

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Speaker 1: Like anyone can do it, anyone cannot do it, or

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Speaker 1: anyone anyone can run. That's true. Not everyone can run

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Speaker 1: in the Olympics'.

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Speaker 3: It's just too I love itak it down.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining and being such

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Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air. Like what an absolute legend.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh this has been so much fun, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: following you so keenly in Tokyo, like partly for the running,

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Speaker 1: partly for the after party. I just want to hear

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Speaker 1: all about the party at the end.

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Speaker 3: Mexico. Let's be honest, that's where it starts.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you legend, Thank you so much, Thank you having

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Speaker 1: new days Sarah again, I can't believe this woman is

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Speaker 1: only twenty six and he's so relaxed and level headed

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Speaker 1: about her incredible success on the world stage. I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: getting to know her so much, and like I said

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Speaker 1: at the beginning, truly hope I get to spend some

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Speaker 1: more time with her in the future. And I hope

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Speaker 1: she entertained you guys as much as she did for me.

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Speaker 1: As always, please let her know what you enjoyed or

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Speaker 1: reflected on sharing and tagging at Morgan Mitch to shower

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Speaker 1: her with love for this episode and so that we

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Speaker 1: can reshare equally. Please never hesitate to send me a

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Speaker 1: DM or email to with any feedback, suggestions, or requests

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Speaker 1: in particular, as well as for any co hosts for

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Speaker 1: years of our lives so we can keep growing the neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: bigger and better than ever. Speaking of running, hopefully some

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Speaker 1: of you will be joining us for relief from this weekend,

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Speaker 1: which you will know all about by now, but if not,

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Speaker 1: head back two years of our lives from a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago with Samantha Gash and Joe Nevin to

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Speaker 1: catch up. I hope you're all having a wonderful week

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Speaker 1: and is seizing yu Ye