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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because they just launched, but we've been using

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Speaker 1: them when I see wee Rihanna and I have been

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Speaker 1: using them for like over two years because they've been

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 2: Your Face. I'm Lucy Neville and this is in Her

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Speaker 2: Bag where I sit down with one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: So I always ask guests on this show to tell

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Speaker 2: me who their beauty idol is, and the answer we

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Speaker 2: have heard time and time again is, of course Rihanna.

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Speaker 2: Everyone is obsessed with her signature soft lip glow and

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Speaker 2: the way she changed the beauty industry forever. So ubi's

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Speaker 2: You're in for a treat today. You'll be meeting Priscilla Ono,

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Speaker 2: Rihanna's personal makeup artist and fenty Beauty's global makeup artist

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Speaker 2: for the past seven years, with twenty years of industry experience,

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Speaker 2: Priscilla is a true beauty guru. She's not only the

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Speaker 2: creative genius behind Rihanna's stunning red carpet appearances, but she's

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Speaker 2: is a must follow for step by step makeup tutorials

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Speaker 2: on models of all skin types and tones. She's also

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Speaker 2: a former Sephora pro, so she's got the inside scoop

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Speaker 2: on all the hottest makeup trends and products. Today, we're

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Speaker 2: asking her exactly what makeup look Rihanna asks for, including

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Speaker 2: every single time she does makeup, and how to get

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Speaker 2: your makeup to last all night. I had to find

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Speaker 1: What's in the back?

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Speaker 2: Priscilla, Thank you so much for joining us my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: I want to start by asking you what your experience

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Speaker 2: has been like in the beauty industry so far.

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Speaker 1: It's been a wild ride. This is my twentieth year

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Speaker 1: is my seventh year with fenty Beauty Wow, and I

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Speaker 1: feel that everything has been going at a rapid speed.

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Speaker 1: When I first started, there wasn't YouTube, there wasn't social media,

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Speaker 1: There wasn't any of this amazing publicity that makeup gets today.

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Speaker 1: So to see how much it's grown has been such

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Speaker 1: see how much makeup has grown and how much the

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Speaker 2: We have guests on this show, on the show that

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Speaker 2: fenty Beauty is brought up as people's favorite brands. Rihanna

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Speaker 2: is brought up as their beauty icon, and we all

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Speaker 2: know that Fenty's leading the way in terms of representation

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Speaker 2: and shade range, like that must be a makeup artist's dream.

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Speaker 2: What have been some of the highlights working with Rihanna

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the number one highlight with fany

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Speaker 1: Beauty has been the shade range. You know, launching with

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Speaker 2: And in terms of her makeup looks, what have been

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Speaker 2: When you say they looked perfect, what do you credit

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Speaker 2: Okay Forascilla, this show is called in Her Bag, but

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Speaker 2: today I gotta be going beyond the Bag. Tell me

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Speaker 2: about the first makeup product you fell in love with, like.

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Speaker 1: Ever in life, ever in life? Oh my god. My

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Speaker 1: first favorite product ever in life was Lipsmackers, like lipom

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was Lipsmackers. I was like twelve thirteen years

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Speaker 2: Tell me about some of your favorite makeup products now.

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Speaker 1: Currently, right now, I think the traced out lipliners from

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Speaker 1: fenty Beauty they just launched are incredible. I'm also really

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Speaker 1: loving the gloss Bomb sticks. But it's crazy because they

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Speaker 1: They're just juicy. It's like a gloss bomb, but like

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Speaker 1: It's like the perfect consistency. I feel like everyone should

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Speaker 2: Is Rihanna's go to cola combo Ooh we do?

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Speaker 1: Browned out is definitely like more brown. And then it's Fussy,

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Speaker 1: a good lipliner moment right now. She loves a good

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Speaker 2: I know, I am desperate to get my hands on

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Speaker 1: The gloss Bomb sticks have a bit of pigment in them.

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Speaker 1: They still have that juicy gloss, that shade butter, the nourishment,

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Speaker 1: You don't really need to do like multiple strokes of it,

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Speaker 1: so they last. Ree is the kind of girl that

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Speaker 2: How do you get makeup to last all?

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Speaker 1: That? We always do a really good skin prep is.

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Speaker 1: for her, it's exfoliating her skin. We love the pre

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Speaker 1: show go from Fenti's skin. It's a really good exfoliader

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Speaker 2: Can you talk to me about this is a question

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Speaker 2: that I always have when I'm doing like crane products

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Speaker 2: and then I want to set them with powders. Should

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Speaker 1: You know, it really just depends if you're a beginner

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Speaker 1: just stick with your powders on top. As a makeup artist,

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Speaker 1: only because we're pros and we know how much to press,

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Speaker 1: and like, press this cream blush on top of your

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Speaker 1: I always just always say just stick to your creams

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Speaker 1: and then put your powders on top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, talk to me about your favorite tools. So

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Speaker 2: questions that we often get from our community is to

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Speaker 2: use blenders? Do we use brushes? Do we use fingers?

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Speaker 2: Are there certain tools that you swear by?

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Speaker 1: I use everything. I use blenders, I use brushes, I

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Speaker 1: use fingers, I use everything. I use whatever it takes

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Speaker 1: there's no wrong way to apply your makeup. Don't let

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Speaker 2: You're probably jet setting all over the place all the time.

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Speaker 2: What are some beauty products that are always in your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I just have seven blushes, what's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, And now I have a question about your hair

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Speaker 1: Actually, I just used fenty hair when Ree was formulating it.

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Speaker 1: I never used it because I only get samples of

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Speaker 1: edge control. It's so good, and it smells so good.

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Speaker 1: Rihanna smells amazing, so best believe her hair products smell

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Speaker 1: I actually did my own hair today and the only

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about your start in beauty,

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've learned so many lessons. I've learned go with

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Speaker 2: What are your top two makeup packs that you've learned

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Speaker 1: The first one is eucalyptus. I actually love using eucalyptus

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Speaker 1: I have them sniff in eucalyptus oil like essential oil,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. I want everyone to try it. So

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Speaker 1: I love using concealer around the lipstick, especially like when

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Speaker 2: When you're doing the consala around the lips, do I

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Speaker 1: Liplanger first?

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Speaker 2: Got it? I want to wrap things up by asking

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Speaker 2: you when do you feel most beautiful?

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Speaker 1: I feel my most beautiful when I've rested, I've slept,

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Speaker 1: I have a beautiful glam and good hair, and I

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Speaker 1: I have my hair pulled back, no makeup on, just

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Speaker 1: wearing like at leisure, and I still feel confident. I'm

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Speaker 1: always gonna be confident, but my most confidence when I'm glam.

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Speaker 2: I love that, Priscilla, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: It was a pleasure, Ubiz.

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Speaker 2: I'm on a high right now. That was just so exciting.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I could ask so many questions. I

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Speaker 2: really hope you love this interview. If you want more

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