1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:20,625 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Hey you Biz, I'm 4 00:00:20,665 --> 00:00:24,265 Speaker 2: back with some style in spo for your Sunday. In 5 00:00:24,305 --> 00:00:28,065 Speaker 2: today's bonus Nothing to Wear episode, we're diving deep into 6 00:00:28,105 --> 00:00:31,665 Speaker 2: the secrets of making your wardrobe last longer and saving 7 00:00:31,705 --> 00:00:34,665 Speaker 2: you money in the process. Ever wondered which fabrics are 8 00:00:34,705 --> 00:00:37,985 Speaker 2: worth the investment and which ones are destined to unravel 9 00:00:38,065 --> 00:00:40,265 Speaker 2: after a few washes, We've got you covered. 10 00:00:43,025 --> 00:00:45,865 Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed 11 00:00:46,025 --> 00:00:50,025 Speaker 1: laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to 12 00:00:50,105 --> 00:00:51,745 Speaker 1: do it. You live for fashion. 13 00:00:53,105 --> 00:00:56,745 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 14 00:00:56,825 --> 00:01:00,905 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 15 00:01:00,945 --> 00:01:03,505 Speaker 2: and every week I talk to an expert who is 16 00:01:03,545 --> 00:01:05,545 Speaker 2: going to help us work out how to get more 17 00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:08,185 Speaker 2: out of the clothes we already own and tell us 18 00:01:08,305 --> 00:01:11,945 Speaker 2: exactly what is and what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. 19 00:01:12,505 --> 00:01:14,225 Speaker 1: One of my favorite. 20 00:01:13,785 --> 00:01:17,785 Speaker 2: Episodes we have ever done was about garment care. Sound boring, 21 00:01:17,945 --> 00:01:20,985 Speaker 2: but it was an absolute game changer and I realized 22 00:01:21,025 --> 00:01:22,745 Speaker 2: all the things I was doing wrong when it came 23 00:01:22,785 --> 00:01:25,865 Speaker 2: to laundry, as well as discovering some super handy gadgets 24 00:01:25,865 --> 00:01:28,865 Speaker 2: and products that help us look after our favorite garments. 25 00:01:29,385 --> 00:01:33,225 Speaker 2: So today I've brought back Nicolberonnith and Hines to answer 26 00:01:33,385 --> 00:01:37,065 Speaker 2: every single fabric question we have, and I. 27 00:01:37,105 --> 00:01:37,625 Speaker 1: Have a lot. 28 00:01:37,905 --> 00:01:41,065 Speaker 2: Before we get into the incredibly confusing world of fabric, 29 00:01:41,105 --> 00:01:43,425 Speaker 2: I've got one question to ask you. What is the 30 00:01:43,465 --> 00:01:46,865 Speaker 2: oldest purchase in your wardrobe that is still going strong? 31 00:01:47,425 --> 00:01:50,185 Speaker 1: M gosh, I have a lot of really old things. 32 00:01:50,585 --> 00:01:52,945 Speaker 2: Yes, the beautiful Cashmi jumper you were wearing today, I 33 00:01:52,985 --> 00:01:55,105 Speaker 2: commented before we started recording. And it's got your daughter's 34 00:01:55,185 --> 00:01:57,145 Speaker 2: name on it because she used to wear it for 35 00:01:57,185 --> 00:01:58,185 Speaker 2: school for horse riding. 36 00:01:58,305 --> 00:02:00,105 Speaker 1: She did, so that's been around a while. It's got 37 00:02:00,145 --> 00:02:03,065 Speaker 1: a Cash's label in it that I stitched in because 38 00:02:03,065 --> 00:02:05,585 Speaker 1: I was never going to succumb to that nasty iron 39 00:02:05,625 --> 00:02:08,265 Speaker 1: on label thing and that had to be all handstitch. 40 00:02:08,465 --> 00:02:11,625 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, did that up at night sewing away? 41 00:02:11,745 --> 00:02:12,185 Speaker 1: I love it. 42 00:02:12,225 --> 00:02:15,105 Speaker 2: But you're such an advocate for you know, caring for 43 00:02:15,105 --> 00:02:16,705 Speaker 2: your garments and keeping them a long time, so you've 44 00:02:16,705 --> 00:02:18,185 Speaker 2: probably got a lot I do. 45 00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:21,225 Speaker 1: Actually, I've honestly got stuff I've had for probably thirty 46 00:02:21,265 --> 00:02:24,545 Speaker 1: years still in my wardrobe. I still work commendable. You're 47 00:02:24,585 --> 00:02:27,385 Speaker 1: going to teach us how to do that with this episode. Good, Okay. 48 00:02:27,425 --> 00:02:31,385 Speaker 2: I want to start with natural fibers because in my 49 00:02:31,585 --> 00:02:34,145 Speaker 2: head they're considered quote unquote better. 50 00:02:34,665 --> 00:02:37,265 Speaker 1: I do prefer a natural fiber because I feel like 51 00:02:37,305 --> 00:02:40,705 Speaker 1: they breathe better. That's not to say they have lungs, 52 00:02:40,745 --> 00:02:44,465 Speaker 1: but they just allow the osmosis of moistur in air 53 00:02:44,545 --> 00:02:47,785 Speaker 1: I suppose better than a polyester based But then there's 54 00:02:47,785 --> 00:02:51,145 Speaker 1: a difference. So there's petroleum based fibers, okay, like viscos, 55 00:02:51,185 --> 00:02:52,985 Speaker 1: which is a wood based fiber. Oh okay. 56 00:02:52,985 --> 00:02:54,585 Speaker 2: So we'll get to synthetics in a moment. So I 57 00:02:54,585 --> 00:02:56,985 Speaker 2: had to google natural fibers because I knew a few. 58 00:02:57,505 --> 00:03:01,585 Speaker 2: We've got cotton, wool, silk, cashme, which I don't know 59 00:03:01,585 --> 00:03:03,225 Speaker 2: if if that's different to well, I'll ask you in 60 00:03:03,265 --> 00:03:06,065 Speaker 2: a moment. Bamboo linen, which I thought was cotton but 61 00:03:06,145 --> 00:03:09,585 Speaker 2: might be suede leather shurling, which I'm guessing is like 62 00:03:09,665 --> 00:03:11,225 Speaker 2: basically the whole cover of a sheet. 63 00:03:11,345 --> 00:03:13,465 Speaker 1: So let's just quickly go through those. 64 00:03:14,145 --> 00:03:16,625 Speaker 2: Good old cotton is one hundred percent cotton all the 65 00:03:16,665 --> 00:03:18,625 Speaker 2: same because then I saw on some websites it's one 66 00:03:18,665 --> 00:03:22,705 Speaker 2: hundred percent Australian certified cotton. Okay, yeah, are we getting 67 00:03:22,785 --> 00:03:24,705 Speaker 2: too far down the line? 68 00:03:24,905 --> 00:03:27,305 Speaker 1: Look, I love cotton, and I think everyone feels like 69 00:03:27,345 --> 00:03:31,465 Speaker 1: cotton's kind of their go to. Apparently it's really environmentally 70 00:03:31,545 --> 00:03:33,785 Speaker 1: not good, uses a shitload of water. 71 00:03:33,905 --> 00:03:35,985 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, because when I say naturals better, 72 00:03:36,065 --> 00:03:38,105 Speaker 2: it depends I guess how you're looking at it. It's 73 00:03:38,145 --> 00:03:40,225 Speaker 2: better for sustainability and that we wear it for longer 74 00:03:40,345 --> 00:03:42,585 Speaker 2: or completech it. But some of the processes of making 75 00:03:42,585 --> 00:03:45,625 Speaker 2: the fabrics aren't that great. But cotton's good because I 76 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:48,705 Speaker 2: guess I've got a few pretty affordable, great cotton T 77 00:03:48,785 --> 00:03:51,625 Speaker 2: shirts that are white and I can use the wonderful 78 00:03:51,625 --> 00:03:55,425 Speaker 2: products you suggested in that laundering episode and keep them fresh. 79 00:03:55,585 --> 00:03:58,025 Speaker 2: Let's talk wool, then, why is some wall scratchy? 80 00:03:58,105 --> 00:03:59,985 Speaker 1: I think it's the way they twist the Obviously, a 81 00:04:00,105 --> 00:04:02,825 Speaker 1: higher quality like a Marino wool is going to be 82 00:04:02,865 --> 00:04:05,545 Speaker 1: less scratchy. Okay, the sort of when they grade it 83 00:04:05,665 --> 00:04:09,345 Speaker 1: so you get the Tasmanian wool that grows in less. 84 00:04:09,945 --> 00:04:12,825 Speaker 1: It's just a bit of a finer fiber, and so. 85 00:04:12,745 --> 00:04:15,185 Speaker 2: It's actually like the hair type of the animal, Like 86 00:04:15,465 --> 00:04:16,665 Speaker 2: we've all got different hair types. 87 00:04:17,465 --> 00:04:19,825 Speaker 1: So all the crappy stuff gets made into carpet and 88 00:04:19,825 --> 00:04:22,865 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Wow, And then the really fine, nice 89 00:04:22,865 --> 00:04:26,025 Speaker 1: stuff gets made into beautiful knits. And then there's a 90 00:04:26,225 --> 00:04:28,145 Speaker 1: process that they do with the wall that makes it 91 00:04:28,185 --> 00:04:29,945 Speaker 1: even softer. I wore a browd the other day, which 92 00:04:29,945 --> 00:04:33,305 Speaker 1: I really should try and remember, and I can't. Anyway, 93 00:04:33,305 --> 00:04:36,305 Speaker 1: it was the softest butter. It wasn't scratchy at all. Okay. 94 00:04:36,385 --> 00:04:38,705 Speaker 1: The wool is meant to be the greatest fabric of 95 00:04:38,705 --> 00:04:40,985 Speaker 1: all because it keeps you cool in the summer and 96 00:04:41,025 --> 00:04:43,505 Speaker 1: warm in the winter. It does. And what's Cashmi is 97 00:04:43,545 --> 00:04:48,585 Speaker 1: CASHMEI w is a goat? Cashmi is a goat? Oh wow? 98 00:04:49,465 --> 00:04:51,865 Speaker 2: So if you sometimes see it will CASHMEI blend. It's 99 00:04:51,905 --> 00:04:54,865 Speaker 2: those two animals, correct, Oh wow? And does the fleece 100 00:04:54,905 --> 00:04:57,865 Speaker 2: on a Cashmi goat is softer? Talk to me about silk, 101 00:04:57,905 --> 00:05:00,665 Speaker 2: because I love silk. I always butcher it in the 102 00:05:00,705 --> 00:05:02,305 Speaker 2: washing machine because well, you're not meant to put in 103 00:05:02,305 --> 00:05:03,305 Speaker 2: the washing machine. 104 00:05:03,025 --> 00:05:06,105 Speaker 1: But you can. Did you ever grow silk corse? 105 00:05:06,385 --> 00:05:08,705 Speaker 2: And you had mulberry leaves and then they would die 106 00:05:08,745 --> 00:05:09,945 Speaker 2: and you, Mum would be like, have to for them 107 00:05:09,945 --> 00:05:13,145 Speaker 2: in a bin, and I'm like no, And they spin 108 00:05:13,465 --> 00:05:16,305 Speaker 2: their little cocoon correct, and then we use the cocoon. 109 00:05:16,945 --> 00:05:19,665 Speaker 1: Yes, the threads that make up the cocoon. I know, 110 00:05:19,705 --> 00:05:22,545 Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. I saw this amazing thing on Instagram 111 00:05:22,585 --> 00:05:24,505 Speaker 1: the other day, the way they do that in China 112 00:05:24,625 --> 00:05:25,625 Speaker 1: or Minna or somewhere else. 113 00:05:25,745 --> 00:05:28,905 Speaker 2: Yes, And interestingly, depending on how you feel about animals, 114 00:05:28,905 --> 00:05:30,705 Speaker 2: I mean, that's obviously not vegan, because some of these 115 00:05:30,705 --> 00:05:34,785 Speaker 2: are vegan cotton, bamboo, But silk isn't, wall isn't. Cashmir isn't. 116 00:05:34,905 --> 00:05:38,305 Speaker 2: So there's that whole other spectrum. True, linen is linen 117 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:41,745 Speaker 2: type of cotton. Generally it's a fibrous plant. 118 00:05:41,985 --> 00:05:46,625 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a different plant. It's a different plant. Leather 119 00:05:46,705 --> 00:05:49,905 Speaker 1: and swage they come from cows, cows or sheep, depending 120 00:05:49,905 --> 00:05:53,145 Speaker 1: on what type of pigs, even whatever type of leather 121 00:05:53,185 --> 00:05:56,345 Speaker 1: it is of the leather, will we come across a 122 00:05:56,705 --> 00:06:01,105 Speaker 1: cow but like that now example, Yes, And that fancy 123 00:06:01,185 --> 00:06:03,305 Speaker 1: chanell bag is lamb skin. Yes. 124 00:06:04,025 --> 00:06:07,945 Speaker 2: So in general, with these natural fibers, if you care 125 00:06:07,985 --> 00:06:10,825 Speaker 2: for them properly, do you feel like they last longer 126 00:06:10,905 --> 00:06:13,625 Speaker 2: or they're easier to launder, or are they harder or 127 00:06:13,705 --> 00:06:14,345 Speaker 2: to depend on. 128 00:06:14,345 --> 00:06:17,385 Speaker 1: Which fiber whether in Swede are always going to be tricky. 129 00:06:17,905 --> 00:06:20,145 Speaker 1: You've always got to track them to the cleaners. And 130 00:06:20,465 --> 00:06:23,025 Speaker 1: you know it's all hit and miss depending on got 131 00:06:23,025 --> 00:06:25,305 Speaker 1: a beautiful Swede coat and it's heavy and will keep 132 00:06:25,345 --> 00:06:27,145 Speaker 1: me warm, But the only way I want to wear 133 00:06:27,185 --> 00:06:30,185 Speaker 1: it in is when it's raining. You can't wear it 134 00:06:28,745 --> 00:06:32,625 Speaker 1: when it's a tough one. Yeah. If it's a shiny 135 00:06:32,745 --> 00:06:36,105 Speaker 1: enough leather you consider white clean. Yeah, But when it 136 00:06:36,145 --> 00:06:39,665 Speaker 1: starts absorbing sweating things like that, yeah, it's harder to cleaner. 137 00:06:39,745 --> 00:06:42,625 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you specialist dry cleaner. But good old cotton 138 00:06:42,625 --> 00:06:45,185 Speaker 2: in general, if you've got a good quality cotton item that. 139 00:06:45,145 --> 00:06:49,945 Speaker 1: Should be pretty. It should be pretty, shouldn't lose its shape. Well, Again, 140 00:06:50,065 --> 00:06:52,585 Speaker 1: depends on the caliber of it and how it's made 141 00:06:52,625 --> 00:06:55,425 Speaker 1: and the weave and how loose or tired it is. Wow. 142 00:06:55,985 --> 00:06:59,705 Speaker 1: I know it's confusing. I just think the safest way 143 00:06:59,785 --> 00:07:02,065 Speaker 1: to do anything is just to stick it through in 144 00:07:02,105 --> 00:07:04,105 Speaker 1: a warm wash and hang it on the line and 145 00:07:04,105 --> 00:07:06,745 Speaker 1: a gentle not too spinny. No, I think you can 146 00:07:06,745 --> 00:07:08,705 Speaker 1: go hard on it. I think the tumble dryer part 147 00:07:08,825 --> 00:07:11,545 Speaker 1: is the thing that's really to you. I've really pulled 148 00:07:11,545 --> 00:07:14,185 Speaker 1: back on my dryer, right. Good for you. It's been 149 00:07:14,265 --> 00:07:15,785 Speaker 1: raining a lot here, but you've been in the back 150 00:07:15,785 --> 00:07:18,425 Speaker 1: of my head and I wasn't that terrible? All that 151 00:07:18,585 --> 00:07:20,585 Speaker 1: rain and no clothesline? Correct? 152 00:07:20,825 --> 00:07:22,905 Speaker 2: Okay, we might come back to some of those in 153 00:07:22,945 --> 00:07:26,745 Speaker 2: a moment, but I wanted to ask what about natural blends, 154 00:07:26,825 --> 00:07:28,865 Speaker 2: or like there's some natural fiber and then there's some 155 00:07:28,905 --> 00:07:31,025 Speaker 2: synthetic because we're going to get into synthetics later. 156 00:07:31,145 --> 00:07:32,865 Speaker 1: But like, there's a T shirt I was. 157 00:07:32,865 --> 00:07:37,625 Speaker 2: Looking at it's a cotton and lysol blend, or sometimes 158 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:40,905 Speaker 2: there's a linen blend. Why do they blend these two together? 159 00:07:41,025 --> 00:07:43,505 Speaker 2: Is it a finish thing? Is it an affordability thing? 160 00:07:43,665 --> 00:07:45,745 Speaker 1: I think cotton linen just gives a bit of a 161 00:07:45,785 --> 00:07:49,185 Speaker 1: slub because linen is not as fine a texture as cotton. 162 00:07:49,705 --> 00:07:51,705 Speaker 1: I think it's more of an appearance thing. I'm not 163 00:07:51,745 --> 00:07:52,745 Speaker 1: sure what life cell is. 164 00:07:53,625 --> 00:07:56,425 Speaker 2: I did and it's some sort of synthetic fabric that's 165 00:07:56,545 --> 00:07:58,425 Speaker 2: used a lot in active wear, so it might. 166 00:07:58,305 --> 00:08:00,825 Speaker 1: Be a stretch. It's going to say, is it a stretch? 167 00:08:01,265 --> 00:08:04,585 Speaker 2: Because none of those natural fibers we've talked about a stretchy. 168 00:08:04,225 --> 00:08:06,345 Speaker 1: It depends on the wave again, like you could get 169 00:08:06,345 --> 00:08:10,665 Speaker 1: a cotton nit like a fine cotton jersey. Ah oh yeah, 170 00:08:11,865 --> 00:08:14,785 Speaker 1: is a jersey actually, or some people call it a knit. 171 00:08:15,225 --> 00:08:17,145 Speaker 1: And then depending on the weave of that, you can 172 00:08:17,145 --> 00:08:19,225 Speaker 1: get really stretchy ones, but not a stretch as if 173 00:08:19,225 --> 00:08:20,025 Speaker 1: they add elastin. 174 00:08:20,265 --> 00:08:24,465 Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe that's how they add the stretch more affordably. 175 00:08:24,865 --> 00:08:27,505 Speaker 2: When I'm looking at silk, I just think in my head, 176 00:08:27,545 --> 00:08:29,705 Speaker 2: I'm supposed to look for like slip dresses that are. 177 00:08:29,585 --> 00:08:32,865 Speaker 1: Cut on the bias. What does that mean? I just 178 00:08:32,985 --> 00:08:36,225 Speaker 1: know to look for it. Okay. So you can have 179 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:39,945 Speaker 1: a silk spice cut skirt, which is more about the shape. 180 00:08:39,985 --> 00:08:41,945 Speaker 1: So if you cut it on the rather than cutting 181 00:08:41,945 --> 00:08:43,625 Speaker 1: it straight, you cut it on an angle. It just 182 00:08:43,665 --> 00:08:45,465 Speaker 1: makes it fall in a different way. Okay. 183 00:08:45,545 --> 00:08:47,865 Speaker 2: So when they cut out the pattern, the fabrics kind 184 00:08:47,865 --> 00:08:48,185 Speaker 2: of turn. 185 00:08:48,345 --> 00:08:48,465 Speaker 1: Yes. 186 00:08:48,665 --> 00:08:50,985 Speaker 2: Correct, I'm picturing myself at the spotlight when she's like 187 00:08:51,025 --> 00:08:53,665 Speaker 2: gliding the sleeps and that's a straight that's a straight stright. 188 00:08:53,745 --> 00:08:55,625 Speaker 1: But then when you put the pattern on that fabric, 189 00:08:55,665 --> 00:08:57,865 Speaker 1: if you're going to make your own thing, you put 190 00:08:57,905 --> 00:09:00,385 Speaker 1: it on that angle gives it that sort of fluting 191 00:09:00,425 --> 00:09:11,785 Speaker 1: at the bottom. 192 00:09:11,905 --> 00:09:14,905 Speaker 2: Okay, synthetics, this is where my brain explodes. So we've 193 00:09:14,905 --> 00:09:18,545 Speaker 2: got rayon, acrylics, spandex, nylon, polyester, and I think there's 194 00:09:18,545 --> 00:09:21,625 Speaker 2: types of polyester. So doing some googling to prepare for this, 195 00:09:21,745 --> 00:09:23,745 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize. You know, they can date back 196 00:09:23,745 --> 00:09:25,665 Speaker 2: to when each fabric was kind of invented in the 197 00:09:25,665 --> 00:09:27,705 Speaker 2: fifties or the seventies. Some of them have got like 198 00:09:27,785 --> 00:09:29,665 Speaker 2: actual specific names to the factories. 199 00:09:29,705 --> 00:09:33,345 Speaker 1: That may, yes, fascinating. I think spandex is a brand name. 200 00:09:33,385 --> 00:09:36,865 Speaker 2: Actually, yes, probably, But to me that's just really really 201 00:09:36,865 --> 00:09:38,065 Speaker 2: stretchy leggings or something. 202 00:09:38,465 --> 00:09:42,105 Speaker 1: Well, it's the like component. I think even like brand 203 00:09:42,185 --> 00:09:45,625 Speaker 1: name Elastin is probably the more generic name. Okay, but 204 00:09:45,705 --> 00:09:48,185 Speaker 1: Spandex and like I think are actually brand names. It's 205 00:09:48,225 --> 00:09:50,945 Speaker 1: a bit like calling a vacuum clean or a hoover. Yes, yep, 206 00:09:50,985 --> 00:09:54,425 Speaker 1: we tissues your kleenex. Okay, So what's it acrylic? I 207 00:09:54,465 --> 00:09:59,105 Speaker 1: think it's a petroleum based fiber. Polyester is probably the 208 00:09:59,185 --> 00:10:02,825 Speaker 1: least environmentally friendly of all the fibers. It's petroleum based 209 00:10:02,825 --> 00:10:03,985 Speaker 1: and it doesn't break down. 210 00:10:03,785 --> 00:10:06,825 Speaker 2: If you're shopping online, you scroll down to the fabric composition. 211 00:10:06,905 --> 00:10:08,985 Speaker 2: You'll often see polyester, but it might not give you 212 00:10:09,065 --> 00:10:12,305 Speaker 2: any more just description. Because I looked through my wardrobe 213 00:10:12,345 --> 00:10:15,145 Speaker 2: in preparation. I don't mind a synthetic fabric, but some 214 00:10:15,225 --> 00:10:18,585 Speaker 2: polysteretoms I have don't crush amazing for trouble, and then 215 00:10:18,625 --> 00:10:20,985 Speaker 2: some polly is awful. It's like scrunched up plastic. 216 00:10:21,105 --> 00:10:21,545 Speaker 1: Correct. 217 00:10:21,665 --> 00:10:25,065 Speaker 2: So it's not all synthetics are created equal. They're not 218 00:10:25,145 --> 00:10:28,025 Speaker 2: in terms of wear night and it's also not prohibited 219 00:10:28,025 --> 00:10:31,385 Speaker 2: by price either. No, you can get a really cheap 220 00:10:31,705 --> 00:10:35,025 Speaker 2: jacket in a polly that never creases, it falls really well, 221 00:10:35,105 --> 00:10:36,785 Speaker 2: and then vice versa. 222 00:10:36,865 --> 00:10:37,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. 223 00:10:37,785 --> 00:10:40,025 Speaker 2: So how do you feel about synthetics? I mean for 224 00:10:40,145 --> 00:10:43,585 Speaker 2: you generally what you wear, but also styling your clients. 225 00:10:44,385 --> 00:10:48,785 Speaker 2: We're generalizing here, but more affordable sometimes other synthetics, and 226 00:10:48,825 --> 00:10:51,145 Speaker 2: like we said, they can wear. So do you mix 227 00:10:51,185 --> 00:10:53,345 Speaker 2: and match natural fibers and synthetic fibers. 228 00:10:53,625 --> 00:10:56,025 Speaker 1: I mean I should be a bit more environmentally aware 229 00:10:56,025 --> 00:10:57,705 Speaker 1: when I do it. I had someone snap at me 230 00:10:57,745 --> 00:11:00,865 Speaker 1: once because I was swearing, I've got this very expensive 231 00:11:00,905 --> 00:11:03,345 Speaker 1: designer I've bought it on sale, but you know, shirt 232 00:11:03,865 --> 00:11:06,305 Speaker 1: and she leaned across and she said, you know that's polyester. 233 00:11:06,465 --> 00:11:08,865 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, is it? It's the worst thing 234 00:11:08,945 --> 00:11:10,865 Speaker 1: you can wear. What about vegan leather? 235 00:11:11,185 --> 00:11:12,625 Speaker 2: This is the reason why I wanted to get you 236 00:11:12,665 --> 00:11:14,505 Speaker 2: back on I messaged you a few weeks ago and 237 00:11:14,545 --> 00:11:18,305 Speaker 2: I bought the most amazing pair of vegan leather pants secondhand. 238 00:11:18,305 --> 00:11:19,585 Speaker 2: But they've got a little mark on them, and they're 239 00:11:19,625 --> 00:11:21,905 Speaker 2: like a beige. If it was black, I honestly would 240 00:11:21,945 --> 00:11:23,745 Speaker 2: just color it with the POSCA and no one would notice. 241 00:11:23,985 --> 00:11:25,825 Speaker 2: And I said to you, how do I clean my 242 00:11:25,905 --> 00:11:29,145 Speaker 2: vegan leather? And you sent me on a spiral, this 243 00:11:29,265 --> 00:11:33,065 Speaker 2: amazing laundering account from New York millions of followers, and 244 00:11:33,105 --> 00:11:35,825 Speaker 2: they'd explained that vegan leather is basically just fabric with 245 00:11:35,825 --> 00:11:36,785 Speaker 2: a plastic coating. 246 00:11:37,185 --> 00:11:40,905 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, okay, so it feels and looks like leather. 247 00:11:41,065 --> 00:11:44,665 Speaker 1: Some are crunchy and hideous, somewhat are quite buttery. Yeah. 248 00:11:45,065 --> 00:11:50,425 Speaker 1: So would you ever recommend that to clients? Depending on budget? Sure, 249 00:11:51,225 --> 00:11:54,105 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm not thinking with my environmental hat, sure, 250 00:11:54,345 --> 00:11:57,705 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's a good cheaper option. And yes, 251 00:11:57,945 --> 00:12:00,265 Speaker 1: there's you know, there are some brands that are kind 252 00:12:00,305 --> 00:12:03,265 Speaker 1: of expensive that do really great shapes. Yes, and they 253 00:12:03,345 --> 00:12:05,305 Speaker 1: use that more buttery soft and. 254 00:12:05,305 --> 00:12:08,065 Speaker 2: It could be more durable in a way. Upsides to 255 00:12:08,145 --> 00:12:12,465 Speaker 2: synthetics and downside synthetics. Is it that taking away the environment, 256 00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:14,345 Speaker 2: which of course we absolutely care about, but we're talking 257 00:12:14,345 --> 00:12:18,345 Speaker 2: about shopping and longevity and maybe travel. Are there items 258 00:12:18,345 --> 00:12:20,345 Speaker 2: that are just great and a synthetic Could it be 259 00:12:20,385 --> 00:12:21,065 Speaker 2: a slip dress? 260 00:12:21,105 --> 00:12:23,825 Speaker 1: Could it be? I really like a poly or an 261 00:12:23,865 --> 00:12:26,105 Speaker 1: acetate So acetate is actually a wood pulp? 262 00:12:26,345 --> 00:12:28,465 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what are the ones that are from natural 263 00:12:28,705 --> 00:12:30,865 Speaker 2: stuff that are now synthetic acetate? 264 00:12:31,065 --> 00:12:34,465 Speaker 1: Acetate? Is it could have something else in it. It 265 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:35,825 Speaker 1: might have a bit of polly in it as well, 266 00:12:35,865 --> 00:12:38,585 Speaker 1: but it's essentially a wood pulp fabric. So not all 267 00:12:38,625 --> 00:12:41,905 Speaker 1: synthetics are petroleum based or what kind of plusinised. But 268 00:12:41,945 --> 00:12:47,625 Speaker 1: I think any of those synthetic fabrics, poly or acetate 269 00:12:47,825 --> 00:12:51,105 Speaker 1: crape is one of the best fabrics in terms of 270 00:12:51,185 --> 00:12:54,305 Speaker 1: not creasing it. It's suiting and drape. So the weave 271 00:12:54,385 --> 00:12:57,025 Speaker 1: of the fabric is the thing too in regards to 272 00:12:57,065 --> 00:13:00,745 Speaker 1: how it wears. So gabardine is kind of your traditional 273 00:13:00,865 --> 00:13:03,305 Speaker 1: suiting kind of fabric and if you held it up 274 00:13:03,305 --> 00:13:05,705 Speaker 1: to a microscope. It's got a kind of a line 275 00:13:05,745 --> 00:13:08,505 Speaker 1: through the weave, or it's a cross hatchy. It's a 276 00:13:08,585 --> 00:13:11,985 Speaker 1: very flat fabric, it doesn't have any sheine, or it 277 00:13:12,025 --> 00:13:14,705 Speaker 1: is a polyester or cotton, or it could in anything. 278 00:13:14,905 --> 00:13:16,545 Speaker 1: You can have a gabin you can have a cotton 279 00:13:16,545 --> 00:13:18,905 Speaker 1: gab you can have a polygas kind of like I 280 00:13:18,905 --> 00:13:21,825 Speaker 1: guess you could have a cotton flannel and synthetic flannel 281 00:13:21,825 --> 00:13:25,585 Speaker 1: a similar kind of yeah, exactly. Oh, but it's kind 282 00:13:25,625 --> 00:13:29,185 Speaker 1: of your traditional suiting. Wool gaberdine is probably the most 283 00:13:29,185 --> 00:13:32,665 Speaker 1: prolific type of gabon. Interesting because that's what most men's 284 00:13:32,705 --> 00:13:34,705 Speaker 1: suits are, wool gaberdine for example. 285 00:13:35,425 --> 00:13:40,505 Speaker 2: Okay, downsides are the environment. You can't die synthetics like 286 00:13:40,545 --> 00:13:43,425 Speaker 2: you can you can dive. Oh wow, okay great, because 287 00:13:43,425 --> 00:13:46,265 Speaker 2: I've got some stains on some lighter like shift dresses 288 00:13:46,305 --> 00:13:47,785 Speaker 2: and stuff that I could just make me turn them 289 00:13:47,865 --> 00:13:48,505 Speaker 2: navy or black? 290 00:13:48,625 --> 00:13:50,265 Speaker 1: So would you do that yourself? Will send it to 291 00:13:50,305 --> 00:13:52,265 Speaker 1: a dye. Well, I was going to try it myself 292 00:13:52,305 --> 00:13:56,505 Speaker 1: for your face. Scared. There are people that do it. 293 00:13:56,665 --> 00:13:59,225 Speaker 1: There's a place called color Change, and they'll do Someone 294 00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:01,105 Speaker 1: might have a wedding dress they love the shape of 295 00:14:01,185 --> 00:14:04,585 Speaker 1: but they never wear it because it's white. Yeah, like whatever, okay, 296 00:14:04,665 --> 00:14:07,185 Speaker 1: but usually it requires heat, doesn't it to do a dye. 297 00:14:07,425 --> 00:14:10,065 Speaker 1: I know there are cold water dyes, but I wouldn't trust. Well. 298 00:14:10,065 --> 00:14:13,305 Speaker 2: I've only done the tied diet cotton T shirt with 299 00:14:13,345 --> 00:14:15,305 Speaker 2: my nieces and that was fun. So I feel like, 300 00:14:15,345 --> 00:14:17,905 Speaker 2: maybe natural fibers at home, if it's an item you're 301 00:14:17,905 --> 00:14:20,065 Speaker 2: going to throw out anyway, okay, it's got a stain 302 00:14:20,145 --> 00:14:23,505 Speaker 2: on it, but yeah, synthetics is for experts. Yeah, if 303 00:14:23,505 --> 00:14:26,025 Speaker 2: it's something expensive, I would definitely outsource that. 304 00:14:26,225 --> 00:14:29,785 Speaker 1: Okay, interesting in a bucket. I was well in my head, 305 00:14:29,785 --> 00:14:32,385 Speaker 1: I thought, can die natural fibers, can't die synthetics. But 306 00:14:32,465 --> 00:14:36,625 Speaker 1: then you die everything. Okay. One thing, you can't bleach synthetics. 307 00:14:36,825 --> 00:14:39,265 Speaker 1: You can't bleach synthetic. It makes them go. I remember 308 00:14:39,505 --> 00:14:41,985 Speaker 1: one of my kids went to a friend's house and 309 00:14:42,025 --> 00:14:45,945 Speaker 1: his mum said, oh, I bleached his cricket gear and I, oh, 310 00:14:46,105 --> 00:14:47,465 Speaker 1: and sure enough it was all yellow. 311 00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:50,025 Speaker 2: Yes, I've done that myself. Now I know what happened. 312 00:14:50,065 --> 00:14:53,105 Speaker 2: I just thought I was bad at laundry, which I am. Okay, 313 00:14:53,145 --> 00:14:55,825 Speaker 2: So speaking of stains and laundering, that's good to know. 314 00:14:55,905 --> 00:14:59,265 Speaker 2: You can't bleach synthetics, but if you've got a white 315 00:14:59,625 --> 00:15:02,625 Speaker 2: natural fiber, you can generally try and get a stain 316 00:15:02,705 --> 00:15:07,065 Speaker 2: out carefully. Yes, fabrics that are best for what you know, 317 00:15:07,425 --> 00:15:10,985 Speaker 2: travel you mentioned, No. 318 00:15:11,145 --> 00:15:13,465 Speaker 1: You could do a gabit. If you're a corporate and 319 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:16,585 Speaker 1: you're jumping on a plane for eating some sort of 320 00:15:16,585 --> 00:15:19,705 Speaker 1: a crapy thing is probably going to do you the best. Okay, 321 00:15:19,825 --> 00:15:22,145 Speaker 1: what if please say, please say is good for travel? 322 00:15:22,225 --> 00:15:25,825 Speaker 1: That's oh yeah, kind of plea pleat or that very 323 00:15:25,865 --> 00:15:29,505 Speaker 1: fine pleated. Yes. Sure. Sometimes you may get a silk 324 00:15:29,545 --> 00:15:32,105 Speaker 1: in please say, but you like it is in they 325 00:15:32,185 --> 00:15:35,825 Speaker 1: levels probably ninety nine point nine. It'll be synthetic because 326 00:15:35,825 --> 00:15:39,465 Speaker 1: it holds that crease. Natural fibers can't hold that crease. Yeah, 327 00:15:39,505 --> 00:15:41,265 Speaker 1: sure they Sometimes you could have a cotton, but it 328 00:15:41,265 --> 00:15:43,025 Speaker 1: would need to have a moticum of polly in it. 329 00:15:43,105 --> 00:15:44,345 Speaker 1: For what does moticum mean? 330 00:15:44,825 --> 00:15:50,865 Speaker 2: Mix a titch I love it and underwear cotton only 331 00:15:51,145 --> 00:15:54,585 Speaker 2: cotton guss it. Yeah, that little bit that looks like 332 00:15:55,265 --> 00:15:56,665 Speaker 2: that could just be a hangover. 333 00:15:56,705 --> 00:15:59,185 Speaker 1: I'm sure that my mother told me the ily have cotton. No, 334 00:15:59,345 --> 00:16:01,785 Speaker 1: I'm the same. Let it breathe. Yes, well then again, 335 00:16:01,825 --> 00:16:05,785 Speaker 1: there's a vagina with lungs going. But like you said 336 00:16:05,785 --> 00:16:07,585 Speaker 1: at the top of the episode, back to breathe ability. 337 00:16:07,625 --> 00:16:10,625 Speaker 1: If anything needs to breathe, it's generally you never agent Yeah, totally. 338 00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:13,105 Speaker 1: And also you're sweaty or whatever, you want something to 339 00:16:13,145 --> 00:16:17,745 Speaker 1: suck it up a bit. Shoes, leather, synthetic, Oh gosh, 340 00:16:17,905 --> 00:16:21,545 Speaker 1: I know, leather would definitely wear longer and better. Yes, 341 00:16:21,705 --> 00:16:25,185 Speaker 1: synthetics will crack so with the surface. So where the 342 00:16:25,225 --> 00:16:27,345 Speaker 1: color is on a synthetic. 343 00:16:26,985 --> 00:16:30,905 Speaker 2: Like the top, I love them their new affordable red 344 00:16:30,945 --> 00:16:32,265 Speaker 2: pointy synthetics. 345 00:16:32,545 --> 00:16:34,705 Speaker 1: They're not gonna ask me forever. No, they're gonna crack 346 00:16:34,985 --> 00:16:36,865 Speaker 1: ocasually like the color will crack. 347 00:16:37,145 --> 00:16:39,865 Speaker 2: And is the synthetic shoes the smelly shoes or can 348 00:16:39,945 --> 00:16:41,265 Speaker 2: leather shoes get smelly too? 349 00:16:41,625 --> 00:16:43,265 Speaker 1: I think it depends on your feet. But you can 350 00:16:43,305 --> 00:16:46,145 Speaker 1: get these good like charcoal inserts that you can buy 351 00:16:46,305 --> 00:16:46,905 Speaker 1: the super. 352 00:16:46,705 --> 00:16:48,425 Speaker 2: Mud Okay, because you always try to wear a sock, 353 00:16:48,465 --> 00:16:50,625 Speaker 2: but sometimes a shoe doesn't go with a sock, depending 354 00:16:50,665 --> 00:16:52,625 Speaker 2: on which those secret sock thing is. 355 00:16:52,745 --> 00:16:55,305 Speaker 1: But yeah, they have to be fine enough. Therefore, you 356 00:16:55,385 --> 00:16:59,025 Speaker 1: know it's the cotton factor. Again, they're probably made of synthetic. Yeah, 357 00:16:59,025 --> 00:17:00,985 Speaker 1: they probably are. If they're fine, they're made of synthetic. 358 00:17:01,065 --> 00:17:04,025 Speaker 1: I never thought of my fine invisible socks. They are synthetic. 359 00:17:04,185 --> 00:17:08,505 Speaker 1: Hundred interesting. I buy the toweling secret sock. Okay, you 360 00:17:08,505 --> 00:17:10,585 Speaker 1: can wear sneakers, but you couldn't really wear them in 361 00:17:10,625 --> 00:17:12,225 Speaker 1: a no, not like a point No. 362 00:17:12,705 --> 00:17:15,705 Speaker 2: With a leather shoe, is it called toppied top o? 363 00:17:15,865 --> 00:17:17,865 Speaker 2: You know how if you buy a fancy leather shoe 364 00:17:17,905 --> 00:17:19,465 Speaker 2: and you take it to the shoe man and they 365 00:17:19,465 --> 00:17:23,065 Speaker 2: put that little plastic Because the sole often of designer 366 00:17:23,105 --> 00:17:25,865 Speaker 2: shoes or fancy shoes is also made of leather, that's 367 00:17:25,905 --> 00:17:27,305 Speaker 2: gonna wear out pretty quickly. 368 00:17:27,065 --> 00:17:28,905 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it depends how much you were wear them. 369 00:17:28,985 --> 00:17:31,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, but say it's a business shoe or a men's shoe, 370 00:17:31,745 --> 00:17:33,785 Speaker 2: do you think there's a benefit in getting that investment 371 00:17:33,825 --> 00:17:36,545 Speaker 2: done because it's about fifty bucks? But if you paid 372 00:17:36,545 --> 00:17:38,305 Speaker 2: a lot, it is. I just had a pair of 373 00:17:38,305 --> 00:17:39,865 Speaker 2: boots and actually I was like wall, But then I 374 00:17:39,905 --> 00:17:41,785 Speaker 2: was like, hang on, Lee, You've paid a lot for 375 00:17:41,785 --> 00:17:43,345 Speaker 2: the boots and you can wear them a lot. So 376 00:17:43,505 --> 00:17:45,385 Speaker 2: it's just if you are going to wear them a lot, 377 00:17:45,425 --> 00:17:48,185 Speaker 2: then sure something you have to cop one last question, 378 00:17:48,265 --> 00:17:49,865 Speaker 2: and I guess let's bring it back to shopping in 379 00:17:49,905 --> 00:17:52,905 Speaker 2: our own wardrobe. I remember you saying in a previous 380 00:17:52,945 --> 00:17:57,705 Speaker 2: episode that when it comes to fabrics, shopping in real life, touching, feeling, 381 00:17:57,865 --> 00:18:02,385 Speaker 2: assessing the same. If you don't know a lot about fabrics, 382 00:18:02,425 --> 00:18:04,745 Speaker 2: do you recommend maybe a visit to the shopping center 383 00:18:04,825 --> 00:18:07,865 Speaker 2: just to literally look at fabric tags and learning what 384 00:18:07,945 --> 00:18:09,665 Speaker 2: things are in terms of touching a feeling, or maybe 385 00:18:09,825 --> 00:18:11,665 Speaker 2: going through your own wardrobe and looking at the tags. 386 00:18:11,745 --> 00:18:13,585 Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably. I mean the thing is, it's not going 387 00:18:13,625 --> 00:18:15,585 Speaker 1: to tell you on the tag if it's Gabardine or 388 00:18:15,625 --> 00:18:17,385 Speaker 1: but it will tell you if it's Polly or what 389 00:18:17,665 --> 00:18:21,105 Speaker 1: sort of percentage it is Polly or not Polly, or 390 00:18:21,145 --> 00:18:23,745 Speaker 1: cotton or I mean, I would definitely say, if you're 391 00:18:23,745 --> 00:18:26,505 Speaker 1: in a store, or even if you're online, I would 392 00:18:26,505 --> 00:18:29,745 Speaker 1: avoid cotton, polly anything. It's like water and oil. Yeah. 393 00:18:29,825 --> 00:18:33,105 Speaker 1: I just find that pills and any piled anything makes 394 00:18:33,105 --> 00:18:33,745 Speaker 1: it look cheap. 395 00:18:33,785 --> 00:18:35,825 Speaker 2: We talked about someone had a very expensive atom one 396 00:18:35,825 --> 00:18:38,305 Speaker 2: that was piled and of course someone bought the wonderful 397 00:18:38,305 --> 00:18:41,305 Speaker 2: pill shaver you recommended and spent a Saturday night shaving 398 00:18:41,385 --> 00:18:44,185 Speaker 2: my clothes and it was so joyful. So yeah, I 399 00:18:44,185 --> 00:18:46,585 Speaker 2: guess learning looking online, looking at your tags, you can 400 00:18:46,665 --> 00:18:49,585 Speaker 2: kind of get a better idea of what things are 401 00:18:49,625 --> 00:18:50,025 Speaker 2: made of. 402 00:18:50,225 --> 00:18:52,105 Speaker 1: It doesn't I mean, I still think going to a 403 00:18:52,105 --> 00:18:55,265 Speaker 1: store is probably the best thing. Feeling it. And you know, 404 00:18:55,345 --> 00:18:57,225 Speaker 1: if you are one of these people that is concerned 405 00:18:57,225 --> 00:18:59,905 Speaker 1: about creases and scrunch it in your hand and see 406 00:18:59,945 --> 00:19:00,265 Speaker 1: what it. 407 00:19:00,145 --> 00:19:02,665 Speaker 2: Does, yes, that's me because I don't even know an iron, 408 00:19:03,825 --> 00:19:06,065 Speaker 2: don't you know? I've got a steam of those steamer? 409 00:19:06,225 --> 00:19:08,905 Speaker 1: Yeah? You in irons for some things? What about your sheets? 410 00:19:09,665 --> 00:19:09,785 Speaker 2: What? 411 00:19:10,665 --> 00:19:28,385 Speaker 1: No one eyes their sheep? It's very expensive? How wondre 412 00:19:28,505 --> 00:19:33,025 Speaker 1: these percent? All right? Bougie and budgets? 413 00:19:33,185 --> 00:19:37,305 Speaker 2: So I have brought two different things basically to get 414 00:19:37,345 --> 00:19:39,425 Speaker 2: your approval, But I don't know do you want to 415 00:19:39,465 --> 00:19:42,185 Speaker 2: go first? You have stores to recommend. I didn't recommend 416 00:19:42,225 --> 00:19:43,905 Speaker 2: you to Glow because I know that we've talked a 417 00:19:43,905 --> 00:19:46,345 Speaker 2: million times and I thought you might recommend their wool 418 00:19:46,385 --> 00:19:48,665 Speaker 2: and their cashmir kashmiir is pretty. 419 00:19:48,345 --> 00:19:51,345 Speaker 1: Good, okay, and it's a good price point. It's a 420 00:19:51,345 --> 00:19:53,785 Speaker 1: good price point and they do last, you know. I 421 00:19:53,785 --> 00:19:56,625 Speaker 1: mean this knit I'm wearing now as well as my daughter's. 422 00:19:56,665 --> 00:19:58,385 Speaker 1: But I think I probably bought it when she was 423 00:19:58,425 --> 00:20:02,025 Speaker 1: about thirteen. How old was she now? Twenty two? Wow? 424 00:20:02,105 --> 00:20:04,625 Speaker 1: That's good. So how have you laundered that cashmiir sweater? 425 00:20:04,785 --> 00:20:07,865 Speaker 1: I hand wash, sometimes I machine wash, but sometimes I 426 00:20:07,985 --> 00:20:10,385 Speaker 1: hand wash and then machine wash it on the wool 427 00:20:10,425 --> 00:20:12,225 Speaker 1: cycle because it does a better spin than me. 428 00:20:12,665 --> 00:20:16,865 Speaker 2: My budget is actually two jumpers from Country Road because 429 00:20:16,905 --> 00:20:19,745 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, and they're expensive. I won't lie, 430 00:20:19,785 --> 00:20:22,345 Speaker 2: but my boogie is more expensive. I wanted to ask you. 431 00:20:22,385 --> 00:20:25,425 Speaker 1: So there's this beautiful brush crop Cardigan and it's just 432 00:20:25,505 --> 00:20:28,065 Speaker 1: kind of a v neck crop comes in five colors. 433 00:20:28,065 --> 00:20:30,225 Speaker 2: It's two hundred dollars. That's a lot of money. But 434 00:20:30,265 --> 00:20:32,585 Speaker 2: Country Road's kind of around that at least what soybrick 435 00:20:32,625 --> 00:20:32,865 Speaker 2: is it? 436 00:20:32,905 --> 00:20:34,185 Speaker 1: This is what I want to ask you. 437 00:20:34,465 --> 00:20:38,305 Speaker 2: So thirty four percent Marino wall, thirty three percent nylon, 438 00:20:38,865 --> 00:20:42,105 Speaker 2: fifteen percent our packer, fifteen percent mo hair, and three 439 00:20:42,145 --> 00:20:46,105 Speaker 2: percent spandix. So it's a real mish mash, so that 440 00:20:46,185 --> 00:20:48,385 Speaker 2: one keep that in mind. But then there's a beautiful 441 00:20:48,465 --> 00:20:52,665 Speaker 2: Australian Marino will rip detail pullover. So just another simple 442 00:20:52,905 --> 00:20:55,505 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty nine, so sixty bucks more affordable 443 00:20:55,505 --> 00:20:58,225 Speaker 2: and it's one hundred percent wall. If I'm going to 444 00:20:58,265 --> 00:21:01,145 Speaker 2: buy one, do you think for longevity the one hundred percent 445 00:21:01,185 --> 00:21:01,985 Speaker 2: wall probably? 446 00:21:02,225 --> 00:21:04,785 Speaker 1: Is it more soft because it's got the I can't 447 00:21:04,785 --> 00:21:07,705 Speaker 1: tell you. I'm looking online. Oh okay, I'm going to 448 00:21:07,785 --> 00:21:08,465 Speaker 1: have to go in store. 449 00:21:08,505 --> 00:21:10,545 Speaker 2: But preparing for this episode, I thought, let me look 450 00:21:10,545 --> 00:21:13,385 Speaker 2: at the composition, and I immediately thought the two hundred 451 00:21:13,385 --> 00:21:16,825 Speaker 2: dollars one would be all fancy natural woolen stuff. But no, 452 00:21:16,865 --> 00:21:17,865 Speaker 2: they've got a real mix in that. 453 00:21:17,985 --> 00:21:19,865 Speaker 1: It's a real mix and it's got that bit of 454 00:21:19,905 --> 00:21:21,905 Speaker 1: nile on it which helps it to hold the shape, 455 00:21:22,345 --> 00:21:24,385 Speaker 1: and the elastin gives it a bit of stretch when 456 00:21:24,425 --> 00:21:26,585 Speaker 1: you put It's not all bad. I mean, there's a 457 00:21:26,625 --> 00:21:29,305 Speaker 1: method to that madness. But if you're looking for longevity, 458 00:21:29,345 --> 00:21:31,585 Speaker 1: I feel like one hundred percent something is probably. 459 00:21:31,225 --> 00:21:34,225 Speaker 2: Better in a classic gray sweat or knit, I'm looking 460 00:21:34,225 --> 00:21:37,865 Speaker 2: for longevity. Okay, if you're doing a sweat shirt like 461 00:21:38,305 --> 00:21:40,785 Speaker 2: I call them a sloppy joe. Yeah, yeah, So you 462 00:21:40,825 --> 00:21:43,385 Speaker 2: want the one hundred percent cotton bonds, have one that 463 00:21:43,785 --> 00:21:47,185 Speaker 2: is one hundred percent cotton. Always check on that drop 464 00:21:47,265 --> 00:21:50,905 Speaker 2: shoulder and on bonds immediately. Okay, So do you have 465 00:21:50,945 --> 00:21:54,145 Speaker 2: a bougie for me. That could be synthetic, could be natural. 466 00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:56,305 Speaker 2: It's just an item that you love or have your 467 00:21:56,305 --> 00:21:58,465 Speaker 2: eye on. That's a fabric that you enjoy. 468 00:21:58,625 --> 00:22:00,665 Speaker 1: I mean, Kashmir is probably my lux thing. 469 00:22:01,185 --> 00:22:03,785 Speaker 2: So if you're not getting a Uniglo cashmere, what's a 470 00:22:03,825 --> 00:22:04,665 Speaker 2: fancy where. 471 00:22:04,425 --> 00:22:06,185 Speaker 1: You could get I mean, gosh, you can get Kashmir 472 00:22:06,185 --> 00:22:09,105 Speaker 1: in any brand and all those beautiful soup soft coats 473 00:22:09,265 --> 00:22:11,545 Speaker 1: a cash and you can get the mineral price point 474 00:22:11,985 --> 00:22:14,105 Speaker 1: like a full on big coat. Yeah, I only ever 475 00:22:14,145 --> 00:22:15,745 Speaker 1: think of a knit. Oh no, you can get like 476 00:22:15,785 --> 00:22:19,305 Speaker 1: a melting type weight, so it's sort of like melton. Mean, 477 00:22:20,025 --> 00:22:23,145 Speaker 1: it's a type of weave. Again, it's very smooth. A 478 00:22:23,145 --> 00:22:25,385 Speaker 1: lot of coats are a melting so they're thicker, so 479 00:22:25,505 --> 00:22:27,825 Speaker 1: almost like a blanket, but not as Oh yeah, he 480 00:22:27,905 --> 00:22:30,305 Speaker 1: has a blanket like You get very in weights in 481 00:22:30,305 --> 00:22:32,905 Speaker 1: a middle and that can be synthetic or you probably 482 00:22:32,945 --> 00:22:35,465 Speaker 1: could get a synthetic melting, but usually it's a wall 483 00:22:35,585 --> 00:22:38,705 Speaker 1: or a cashmere. Okay, I did buy I haven't worn 484 00:22:38,745 --> 00:22:40,025 Speaker 1: it yet because I bought it when it was on 485 00:22:40,145 --> 00:22:43,905 Speaker 1: sale at the end of European winter. Great time to shop, 486 00:22:43,945 --> 00:22:46,225 Speaker 1: particularly online. I know it is, but it's sort of 487 00:22:46,225 --> 00:22:49,825 Speaker 1: hard to imagine wearing a cashmere full length coat. You 488 00:22:49,905 --> 00:22:53,065 Speaker 1: better go to Melbourne or Tasmania soon. Anyway, it's hanging 489 00:22:53,105 --> 00:22:56,825 Speaker 1: up in my coat. It's a franky shop cashmere coat. 490 00:22:56,905 --> 00:23:00,185 Speaker 1: It's almost ankle length and it's just super dark navy, 491 00:23:00,465 --> 00:23:03,505 Speaker 1: and hopefully I will wear the crap out of it, 492 00:23:03,705 --> 00:23:05,385 Speaker 1: even on special. It's pretty pricey. 493 00:23:05,505 --> 00:23:08,065 Speaker 2: You'll have trust me with your fabric knowledge. You'll have 494 00:23:08,105 --> 00:23:11,105 Speaker 2: it to pass on to your door. That sounds amazing. 495 00:23:11,185 --> 00:23:13,185 Speaker 1: I guess when long coats are out of fashion, I 496 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:15,625 Speaker 1: could always ham it. You could ham it, crop it off, 497 00:23:15,905 --> 00:23:19,065 Speaker 1: just don't bleach it. I definitely won't bleach it before 498 00:23:19,105 --> 00:23:20,665 Speaker 1: I tell you my bougie. Can I ask one more 499 00:23:20,665 --> 00:23:24,105 Speaker 1: fabric question. Those coats that feel like felt almost like 500 00:23:24,225 --> 00:23:27,025 Speaker 1: kids craft felt. Oh yeah, that could be a type 501 00:23:27,025 --> 00:23:29,825 Speaker 1: of Melton as well. Okay, but it's sort of crappy 502 00:23:29,865 --> 00:23:32,745 Speaker 1: one because I feel like lint sticks to it likes 503 00:23:32,865 --> 00:23:34,625 Speaker 1: and it looks really heavier sort of. 504 00:23:34,745 --> 00:23:36,105 Speaker 2: And look to be honest, I've seen it in a 505 00:23:36,105 --> 00:23:37,585 Speaker 2: lot of the cheap affordable stores. 506 00:23:37,705 --> 00:23:40,465 Speaker 1: Yes, it's probably got a bit of polly in it. Okay, 507 00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:44,305 Speaker 1: And yeah it catches everything, catches everything not good, okay, 508 00:23:44,505 --> 00:23:46,785 Speaker 1: but all like those. I mean, you know, my navy 509 00:23:46,865 --> 00:23:49,625 Speaker 1: cashmere is going to require a roller. Yeah right, And 510 00:23:49,705 --> 00:23:52,225 Speaker 1: this time of year, being winter, you've got to keep 511 00:23:52,265 --> 00:23:53,785 Speaker 1: a roller on you at all time. I have one 512 00:23:53,785 --> 00:23:55,305 Speaker 1: in the car. Good on you. I found one. It 513 00:23:55,345 --> 00:23:56,905 Speaker 1: came out the other day. It's a mini one that 514 00:23:56,945 --> 00:23:58,945 Speaker 1: fits in your handbag. Oh that's so good. 515 00:23:58,985 --> 00:24:01,705 Speaker 2: Well, as a mother of two, two long hair cats, 516 00:24:01,905 --> 00:24:04,825 Speaker 2: my life is eighty percent link rollers. Okay, my bougie. 517 00:24:04,905 --> 00:24:08,025 Speaker 2: I have not purchased, but gosh, it's beautiful. It is 518 00:24:08,145 --> 00:24:10,785 Speaker 2: by the brand Silk Laundry, which I'm sure you know 519 00:24:10,865 --> 00:24:14,305 Speaker 2: I've only recently discovered it. It is the relaxed blazer 520 00:24:14,385 --> 00:24:16,745 Speaker 2: in Midnight. It comes in i'd say like six or 521 00:24:16,785 --> 00:24:19,745 Speaker 2: seven colors. It's one hundred percent silk, and I just 522 00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:22,705 Speaker 2: it's a double breasted, oversized navy blazer. 523 00:24:22,745 --> 00:24:24,025 Speaker 1: It's four hundred and five dollars. 524 00:24:24,025 --> 00:24:26,865 Speaker 2: That's a lot of money, although their pants aren't that 525 00:24:26,865 --> 00:24:29,585 Speaker 2: more affordable, whereas I feel like a Blazers, you're getting 526 00:24:29,585 --> 00:24:31,825 Speaker 2: more bang for your buck. For some reason, if I 527 00:24:31,985 --> 00:24:34,065 Speaker 2: was to be brave enough to purchase a one hundred 528 00:24:34,065 --> 00:24:36,985 Speaker 2: percent silk blazer, How would I care for it? 529 00:24:37,065 --> 00:24:40,065 Speaker 1: You'd have to dry clean it. Anything that's tailored, you 530 00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:41,065 Speaker 1: can't wash it yourself. 531 00:24:41,145 --> 00:24:44,665 Speaker 2: No, So you could carefully wash like a silk skirt maybe, 532 00:24:44,705 --> 00:24:48,425 Speaker 2: but any sort of tailoring, yeah, and lapel and nearby 533 00:24:48,585 --> 00:24:51,065 Speaker 2: skirts you could do, okay, but not a blazer. 534 00:24:51,545 --> 00:24:54,825 Speaker 1: Anything that's got tailoring, darts in it, lining, any of that, 535 00:24:54,905 --> 00:24:57,465 Speaker 1: buttons and all that just just it'll be horrible. You 536 00:24:57,505 --> 00:24:59,385 Speaker 1: won't like it, Okay, that's good to know. Well, what 537 00:24:59,465 --> 00:25:02,985 Speaker 1: I do is with my almost wall blazers. Usually the weathers. 538 00:25:03,065 --> 00:25:05,225 Speaker 1: If you're wearing a blazer, you've got a T shirt underneath. 539 00:25:05,225 --> 00:25:07,105 Speaker 1: But if I happen to have a tank, I just 540 00:25:07,145 --> 00:25:09,905 Speaker 1: get a women's pantyliner and put it in the in 541 00:25:09,905 --> 00:25:12,265 Speaker 1: the jacket, in the jacket, yeah, and it just saves 542 00:25:12,305 --> 00:25:14,305 Speaker 1: you a few more weares and like shitzy you know. 543 00:25:14,585 --> 00:25:16,705 Speaker 1: But I think people dry clean things way too often. 544 00:25:16,945 --> 00:25:20,905 Speaker 2: Okay, good because drake cleaning has veryssive Yeah, and super 545 00:25:20,905 --> 00:25:23,585 Speaker 2: bad for the environment too. Nicole, Honestly, your brain, I 546 00:25:23,625 --> 00:25:25,505 Speaker 2: just wish I could download it into mind. 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