WEBVTT - The Flat Tyre Test And The Appointment Nobody Wants

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I'm im a mea podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to Unleashed podcast for gen X women

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<v Speaker 2>who need a laugh.

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<v Speaker 3>If you know Sheira is the princess of power?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you every word to greet me? And had more

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<v Speaker 2>fluo in your wardrobe than a road crew?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you're in the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now, who is on the sofa this week?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sally Hipworth and I'm an author.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Mary Kustas, I'm an actress writer.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Bruna Pependrea and I'm a film and TV producer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Cas Mahoney I'm a comedian. Wherever you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>unclenching your clinch your pelvic floor and get ready to unleash.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye Okay, who's starting us off this time?

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<v Speaker 1>I am busting to get this off my chest?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh please do.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week there.

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<v Speaker 6>Was a number of messages on my daughter's school WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 6>school Chats school chat for year eight, and the first

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<v Speaker 6>message said something along the lines of my daughter Vanessa

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<v Speaker 6>using fake names, had.

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<v Speaker 1>Her blazer stolen from her locker. And I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it and thought, okay, fine, let's.

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<v Speaker 3>All move on.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the next thing, someone emojied the message with.

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<v Speaker 1>A shocked face.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh drama, Sally.

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<v Speaker 6>And then someone else wrote back and said, I hope

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<v Speaker 6>you've taken it to the school.

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<v Speaker 1>This stuff has to stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was looking at it live thinking and then

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<v Speaker 6>someone said, well, the other day my Duty's pencil case

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<v Speaker 6>was stolen.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I've stolen her name. Yes, please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm reading these messages and this is a new school,

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<v Speaker 6>so I don't have a lot of mums to start

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<v Speaker 6>a snarky side. But all I want to scream is,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, Duty's pencil case was not stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>She lost it, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And Vanessa's blazer it's on the train, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>in the lost property. I don't understand why these people

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<v Speaker 6>think that their things were stolen, Like if it was

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<v Speaker 6>if it was a vape, you know, or if it

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<v Speaker 6>was an air pods, perhaps it was stolen. But is

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<v Speaker 6>there an underworld pencil case transfer business that I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know about? And it got me thinking. I actually ended

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<v Speaker 6>up going back to my kids and saying, kids, if

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<v Speaker 6>you lost your pencil case or your blazer, and you

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<v Speaker 6>could have sworn that you left it in your locker,

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<v Speaker 6>what would you think had happened, and all three of

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<v Speaker 6>them are.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, we lost it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I thought, okay, interesting and probably because I've

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<v Speaker 6>taught them that most things in general in life are

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<v Speaker 6>our fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 4>But sw there's two types of people victims, yeah, or

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<v Speaker 4>there are people that want to have someone to blame

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<v Speaker 4>for everything. Yes, the blame of adults.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I'm actually quite shocked that no one chimed in

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<v Speaker 6>and said it's on the train. Doesn't matter if she

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<v Speaker 6>It's like Judge Judy says, how do you know that

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<v Speaker 6>your teenager is lying?

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<v Speaker 3>Because their mouths removing.

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<v Speaker 7>Judge Judy. It always comes back to Judge comes back.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know about you, guys, but I find with

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<v Speaker 5>most shall we say, school chats, that the same people

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<v Speaker 5>tend to weigh in. Yes, it's always the same. There

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<v Speaker 5>are those that just watch.

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<v Speaker 7>And here's my problem with school group chats.

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<v Speaker 5>I miss the important stuff because I couldn't give a

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<v Speaker 5>toss about most of what's going on in there, which

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<v Speaker 5>is always like, does anyone have the homework that my

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<v Speaker 5>kid forgot to get? I mean, it's so kind of mundane.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I have genuinely missed some important things because

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<v Speaker 5>of all the stuff around it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mute or archive chats like that, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly like Bruna said, then you miss the.

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<v Speaker 6>Actual use the points that you need, and we need

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<v Speaker 6>that stuff, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Do, but the other stuff you just think you need

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<v Speaker 3>to have a side group on this alway.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, every group chat, you need a side group. But

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<v Speaker 5>my funniest school story when I couldn't stop interfering is

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<v Speaker 5>my kids went to this preschool in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 5>they've been with all their friends through all the years,

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<v Speaker 5>and then at one point in the preschool, you're either

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<v Speaker 5>a blueberry or a raspberry, and all their friends were blueberries.

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<v Speaker 5>And I get literally, something had happened that I think

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<v Speaker 5>I had food poisoning. I was in hospital. They might

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<v Speaker 5>have given me some morphine. And I get the email.

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<v Speaker 7>And it says they're raspberries.

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<v Speaker 5>And I go into you'd think someone had like said

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<v Speaker 5>you can't ever leave the country. I was so upset,

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<v Speaker 5>so I write the email of all emails and then

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<v Speaker 5>just let me put it in context. Here they have

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<v Speaker 5>released the class list at this point published from public

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<v Speaker 5>to the other parents. So I have my moment and

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<v Speaker 5>then there's tears involved, and the beautiful woman running in school,

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<v Speaker 5>she writes back, and suddenly the lists are reput out

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<v Speaker 5>into the world, and my kids in our blueberries and

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<v Speaker 5>the greatest line that any other parent has said to me,

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<v Speaker 5>and this is for those people who know The Godfather.

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<v Speaker 5>I just got this email from another father and he said,

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<v Speaker 5>we knew it was Eufredo.

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<v Speaker 4>Very famous line, very famous line in The Godfather.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I was publicly outed. Of course, it was

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<v Speaker 5>so obvious what I've done. But guess what, no regrets,

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<v Speaker 5>no regrets no.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Sally, you're the type of person that says it

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<v Speaker 4>as it is, and you come with a fresh, honest transparency.

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<v Speaker 4>Why didn't you pipe in and say something, Is it

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<v Speaker 4>because it was a new school or you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mostly because it's a new school.

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<v Speaker 6>And also it's pretty much because I didn't want my

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<v Speaker 6>daughter to be tainted. If I was the only mum

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<v Speaker 6>that had any logical sense, I did. Actually, after some

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<v Speaker 6>time had passed and it continued to escalate, people were saying, well,

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<v Speaker 6>they should put cameras there to try and catch the thieves,

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<v Speaker 6>and no one was chiming in. I did have one

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<v Speaker 6>other mother who I knew reasonably well, and I started

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<v Speaker 6>the snarky side chat, and she wrote back and said, clearly,

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<v Speaker 6>these people don't have kids with ADHD. We lose three

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<v Speaker 6>lunch boxes, not drink bottles, a blazer, and to set

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<v Speaker 6>a beer ponds every week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, I found my people.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's time for a round of guilty or not

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<v Speaker 2>guilty in our hands. We all have a paddle that

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<v Speaker 2>says guilty on one side, not guilty on the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone has a question that they are sitting on that

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<v Speaker 2>they do not look at until it's their turn. Okay, Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>what is your question? We will answer it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, here's the question. I've said, Hey, we should catch

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<v Speaker 4>up soon to someone with zero intention of ever following through.

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<v Speaker 3>That's guilty from.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, guilty for mey guilty unanimous.

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<v Speaker 4>I said something similar without I hope these people don't

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<v Speaker 4>listen to the show. But my daughter was at a

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<v Speaker 4>sporting event and I went to order a coffee and

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<v Speaker 4>they recognized me and they said how they were huge fans.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I got my coffee. I hadn't taken a

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<v Speaker 4>sip yet, and they said, well, we see you again

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<v Speaker 4>next week, and I said absolutely, and then I took

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<v Speaker 4>a sip of the coffee. And it was so shite

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<v Speaker 4>and I thought you will never see me never again.

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<v Speaker 3>Shut down, guilty, shut down.

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<v Speaker 7>Next question.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, guys, I've snooped through a partner's phone and I'd

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<v Speaker 5>do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Guilty, guilty, guilty, not guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>Never Mary, Mary is the only Mary. If I've got

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<v Speaker 4>to look through their phone on with the wrong person.

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<v Speaker 5>You've never looked through never Wow, in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even think it was so long ago. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't even think that they had phones. They probably did,

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<v Speaker 4>but no, I just don't. I just don't question certain

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<v Speaker 4>things are really just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I do.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not necessarily because they're cheating or I think that

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<v Speaker 6>they're cheating. I just like to keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 6>what they're up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, right, looks like it's my question.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>I've bought a book put it on my bedside tables,

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<v Speaker 2>so I look like someone who reads.

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<v Speaker 3>But never opened it. It's guilty from me, guilty from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a nice stack that are color coded next

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<v Speaker 2>to my bed, and the candle on that are just

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<v Speaker 2>more of a feature.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that for like? When? When?

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<v Speaker 2>When I ever get lucky?

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<v Speaker 4>And a bit like Kath, I've got them there either

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<v Speaker 4>someone gave them to me with the hope that I

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<v Speaker 4>would read them, or with you know, I think this

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<v Speaker 4>could be nice. They either are someone that has written

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<v Speaker 4>the book or someone that thinks I would like that book.

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<v Speaker 4>But when I write, I know this makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 4>I sort of can't read.

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<v Speaker 5>People say that a lot of people when they're making movies.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of directors say that they can't watch other movies.

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<v Speaker 1>When they're making a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I struggle to read when I'm trying to write Mary Coustas,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got one from you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay. My question is I've told someone their haircut

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<v Speaker 4>looked great when it was a total disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>Guilty, guilty, guilty guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>What else are you supposed to say?

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<v Speaker 6>Like you with the haircut, you have to comment on

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<v Speaker 6>it because it's screaming at you.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say it looks bad saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do love my friend Michelle, who after I spent

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<v Speaker 2>a small fortune in the Sydney hairdressers that is so

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<v Speaker 2>reputable as being amazing, and the guy was unwell when

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<v Speaker 2>he did my color, I literally came out looking like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the gremlin spike that had like just one

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<v Speaker 2>bit of color and everyone else. So it's fine, and

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle went, I'm calling them now we're going straight back.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's to the friends that tell truth.

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<v Speaker 1>We all need a friend like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at Sally hepwis what is your question?

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<v Speaker 1>The question is I think therapy is overrated?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh not guilty, not guilty, guilty guilty? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, there's two of us need to be getting a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more therapy, and it's not us.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say.

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<v Speaker 6>I have had a lot of therapy, and I all

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<v Speaker 6>continue to read books and self help books and all

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<v Speaker 6>of those things, and I've reached the point now that

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's a little navel gayzy and sometimes we

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<v Speaker 6>need to just get on with our lives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, I, on the other hand, think if you

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<v Speaker 4>think you've got a problem, then maybe you do. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you can talk your problem out and hear yourself

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<v Speaker 4>admit to it and literally be actively looking for a solution,

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<v Speaker 4>then that's a good place to be.

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<v Speaker 7>But you've had a less therapy than most people.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, but when I did have it, it was

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<v Speaker 4>super powerful.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 7>But you haven't had a ton of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I need more? I'm saying no, no, no, But

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<v Speaker 4>I had a problem I thought I couldn't overcome, and

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<v Speaker 4>I went to a therapist and they gave me the tool,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they gave me the bill.

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<v Speaker 5>I I had a lot of therapy when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 5>and like showering. I just have no time now the therapy.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's what my girlfriends are for.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a sex therapist and I don't have sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Friend of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a big few weeks at the Hepworth house.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been solo parenting.

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<v Speaker 6>I have had my two parents in and out of hospital.

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<v Speaker 6>I've moved into my new house and the gate's broken,

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<v Speaker 6>the front door has needed three turns to get the

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<v Speaker 6>lock fitted. It's been one thing after another, and the

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<v Speaker 6>most recent thing was last week. I was on the

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<v Speaker 6>way to pick up my daughter from school, got a

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<v Speaker 6>flat tire. Oh no, and it was about twenty past three.

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<v Speaker 6>I had to pick her up at three thirty. I

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<v Speaker 6>am out of options in terms of how am I

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<v Speaker 6>going to get her picked up? And I thought I

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<v Speaker 6>can't get there, what am I going to do? And

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<v Speaker 6>I had this moment in my head where I thought, imagine, Sally,

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<v Speaker 6>you were one of those women who could change attire,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like I don't know many women like that,

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<v Speaker 6>but imagine, imagine now what I would do is get out,

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<v Speaker 6>get out some sort of winch.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you know, you know, I don't know that the

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<v Speaker 5>apparatus I need, but I know about a winch and

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<v Speaker 5>and I and I got the wognuts or whatever they're called.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's getting confident with Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>Have any of these tools, right? Like, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I pulled over to the side.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the road and I did what every and I

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<v Speaker 6>called my dad and he was able to pick up Clementine.

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<v Speaker 6>And I then did the second part of what every

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<v Speaker 6>girl would do, and I left the car on the

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<v Speaker 6>side of the road, and I walked home and called

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<v Speaker 6>my boyfriend and he came and tot with it. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>as a single woman, single mother, feminist, all of those things,

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<v Speaker 6>I spent quite a good amount of time thinking, is

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<v Speaker 6>this something that you should have done? Should you have

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<v Speaker 6>turned to your boyfriend and your dad in this moment,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, should you have been able to take care

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<v Speaker 6>of it yourself? And I decided on reflection, absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely not. That was a moment that I was able

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<v Speaker 6>to outsource that bit of my shit life to someone else,

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<v Speaker 6>And actually I was glad that it was men that

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<v Speaker 6>had to deal with it. I wasn't going to call

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<v Speaker 6>any of my girlfriends, my lovely, smart, intelligent girlfriend, well

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<v Speaker 6>dressed girlfriend and make them get on the ground and

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<v Speaker 6>change a time. I wanted to call a man to

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<v Speaker 6>come and take care of it, because how often do

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<v Speaker 6>men actually come and take care of your problems?

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to know, I feel really good about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really spent a lot of time on it.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to know, what have you guys accepted that

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<v Speaker 6>you're never going to learn to do?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't think it's going to come as

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<v Speaker 5>a shock to our listeners or to the friends I

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<v Speaker 5>have here on the couch, but I've almost accepted that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm never going to be able to put on makeup. Ah,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have you guys. I know, and I know

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<v Speaker 5>we will go down to Mecca. We will try and

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<v Speaker 5>do a lesson. We will, we will try. But I

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<v Speaker 5>have tried, and.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the other day, God, I can.

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<v Speaker 5>Follow a recipe, I can cook. Yes, It's not like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm totally useless. But when it comes to being a.

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<v Speaker 7>Girl, as we perceive a girl to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I just didn't get the gene.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't get the style, Geen, I didn't get the

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<v Speaker 5>makeup Jean, didn't get the I can't even blow out

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<v Speaker 5>my own hair, Ladies, I cannot. I'm incapable, And I

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<v Speaker 5>think I just have to accept it an outsource.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I've accepted. I'll never do is assemble

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<v Speaker 4>anything from my Keea. It is a recipe for divorce.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean seriously. I went to my Ka twice, actually

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<v Speaker 4>three times in three days. Bruner is witness to this.

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<v Speaker 4>On the first occasion, I bought a beautiful glass cabinet,

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<v Speaker 4>pale pink with glass bits and everything, and my daughter

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, we'll do this together. And George, my husband,

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<v Speaker 4>came out and said, now you're going to read the booklet,

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<v Speaker 4>aren't you. You're gonna You're gonna read it all the

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<v Speaker 4>way through, and then you're going to start at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 4>knowing what steps are coming beyond the first step. And

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<v Speaker 4>I said yes. And anyone that's seen me perform live

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<v Speaker 4>knows that I love to improvise. This includes Ikea as well.

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<v Speaker 4>While I got so stressed and my daughter is like

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<v Speaker 4>I like this about her, and yet it's a problem

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<v Speaker 4>because I do believe all our best qualities are our

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<v Speaker 4>worst qualities as well. I got it, Mum. I know

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what I'm doing, and I'm like, great, one of

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<v Speaker 4>us knows what we're doing. Well, three steps in, something

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't fit. Why doesn't this fit? Mama, I'm gonna ask neat, No,

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<v Speaker 4>don't step, don't ask ned Dad comes in with his

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<v Speaker 4>pre prepared monologue. Come on, girls, what did I say?

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to read it all the way through so

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<v Speaker 4>you know what's coming. Long story long. We were under

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<v Speaker 4>so much stress, my daughter and I because we knew

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<v Speaker 4>he was right and we were wrong, and there were

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<v Speaker 4>talks of between the tour then maybe we don't need

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<v Speaker 4>to put the backbits in. Anyway, it was very, very,

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<v Speaker 4>really hard, So I care is one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>I will outsource from this point on. I have tried

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<v Speaker 4>again and again and I've failed.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you end up like thrusting the instruction guide at

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<v Speaker 6>George and storming off?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I like to get on the other side of

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<v Speaker 4>a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We persisted.

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<v Speaker 4>When pain persists, call a doctor. I didn't call a doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>George got in there and we dismantled, and we began

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<v Speaker 4>from the beginning and we did it the right way,

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<v Speaker 4>and it took maybe two extra hours, but we got

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<v Speaker 4>there in the air.

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<v Speaker 7>That's just you can't get back.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been brought to tears by trying to put together furniture.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think you either have it not. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think it's male or female. I think you either have

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<v Speaker 5>that part of your brain works or you do not. Guys,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been avoiding something consistently my whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>What's this, dentist?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, this would be common.

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<v Speaker 5>This is no small thing for me. When I was younger,

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<v Speaker 5>I had very traumatic experience at the local government dental

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<v Speaker 5>hospital when I had to get braces and I went

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<v Speaker 5>in and I feel like, without any kind of anesthesia,

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<v Speaker 5>they ripped a couple of teeth out and I was

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<v Speaker 5>traumatized for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's horrendous.

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<v Speaker 5>So several times in my life I've let some time

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<v Speaker 5>pass before I visited a dentist.

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<v Speaker 3>How much time we're talking?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Was ten years? What ten years?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Cath, you did hear it correctly.

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<v Speaker 5>I did let ten years pass before I set any

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<v Speaker 5>one of my feet in a dentist's office at time.

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<v Speaker 1>What period of your life was this that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go for ten years?

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<v Speaker 5>This was, you know, as an adult in my twenties thirties.

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<v Speaker 5>But when it really hit me, I was in Los

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<v Speaker 5>Angeles and married with kids, and my husband was often saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I just came back from the dentist, just another cleaning.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you feel like he was underlining that dentist.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And at one point he did. He said to me,

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<v Speaker 5>when was the last time you went.

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<v Speaker 7>To the dentist. I said, all, oh, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 7>It might have been a while.

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<v Speaker 5>So finally I was like, okay, Bruna, come on, now

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<v Speaker 5>it's time your kids are going to the dentist. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>it's time you, you know, manned up and went to

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<v Speaker 5>the dentist. So, of course, when you haven't been to

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<v Speaker 5>a dentist for ten years, you go. There are some issues,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. So there was a lot of work that

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<v Speaker 5>got done, a lot of money spent, a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>work got done. But no, and bear in mind, I

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<v Speaker 5>have no pain threshold at all, so I have to

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<v Speaker 5>be sedated for any kind of dental work. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 5>valuum sedation or like having a Zadax for I going like,

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<v Speaker 5>I have to have sedation.

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<v Speaker 7>I cannot be conscious for any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone has to drive you in and pick you up.

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<v Speaker 5>My husband would drive me in and pick me up anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>so that's cut too. I go, oh, I'm back, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>my teeth are good.

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<v Speaker 7>And then COVID happens, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly five years later, I'm in Australia and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't been to the dentist again in a few years.

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<v Speaker 3>Five years, years, full five.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was hand we check up, so.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate going, but then suddenly I have some major issues.

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<v Speaker 5>So now I'm paying the price. So I had to,

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<v Speaker 5>unfortunately go and they said one of my tooth was done.

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<v Speaker 7>It's dan skis.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna have to take it out and put a

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<v Speaker 5>pretend tooth in or what do they called it?

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<v Speaker 7>A veneer.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you might think that's a simple process, but apparently

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<v Speaker 5>that's like a year and a very expensive process. As

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<v Speaker 5>anyone else like knows, they have to deal with things

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<v Speaker 5>and they just put it off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've got a medical situation, well a medical thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm putting off. I mean, I'm a massive hypochondriac.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, but I was putting off, going, I have

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<v Speaker 2>like a lump in my boom, so sure.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not crystals that you've put hilarious.

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<v Speaker 6>They're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was really putting it off, like because I've

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<v Speaker 2>got really into telehealth. It's COVID, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>see the doc. Yeah, But I finally went this week

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, she checked it. I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 2>an ultrasound and stuff next week. She's not worried about it.

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<v Speaker 2>She thinks it's something to do with, you know, perimenopause

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<v Speaker 2>and different sort of whatevers. But we're going to check

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<v Speaker 2>because at three in the morning, that's the I just

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<v Speaker 2>like touch it and roll my hand over it and go, what.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that I.

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<v Speaker 3>Did two years ago? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>But then I felt like I was a hypochondriac because

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<v Speaker 2>this thing kind of appeared and I was like, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>put it off. But she's like, no, anyway, so have

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<v Speaker 2>my mamogram booked in for next week.

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<v Speaker 6>Good girl, Well I have one that I have been

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<v Speaker 6>putting off. I actually also have health hypochondria. And I

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<v Speaker 6>went to the dermatologist yesterday to get my skin check,

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<v Speaker 6>which was great. I got that off my list. But

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<v Speaker 6>while I was there. The dermatologist said, do you want

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<v Speaker 6>to do anything about your facial hair? Oh? And I

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<v Speaker 6>said what I said, because I have a beard since menopause,

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<v Speaker 6>and and I had been thinking about doing it, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it ended up, you know, down the list

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<v Speaker 6>of things because there's a few things going on. And

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<v Speaker 6>I actually really like her, so you know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>that bad. But and she said, you've got to get,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a move on it before and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>before they turn gray and you can't lazer them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's true o'clock. Yeah, I've finished it off for

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<v Speaker 1>it because I already knew.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's why all of us here, I know, so really,

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<v Speaker 6>So essentially, what she said is that if they're dark,

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<v Speaker 6>or if they're pigmented, go now because you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Do because it's it's it's cheaper. This is there works

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<v Speaker 1>very well.

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<v Speaker 6>But as soon as they're gray, you're on the electrolysis,

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<v Speaker 6>which is much more painful and invasive and expensive.

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<v Speaker 7>Mary, what have you been putting off.

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<v Speaker 4>Dealing with my super?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I do feel like it could be

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<v Speaker 4>working harder for me. I feel like my super is

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<v Speaker 4>like a cleaner that I've ignored, you know, like how

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<v Speaker 4>cleaners always clean the best on the first time they

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<v Speaker 4>clean your house, and then they start cutting corners, like

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<v Speaker 4>before my cleaner comes and I like this cleaner, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still pulling things away from the sides of the walls.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'll pull out every you know, chopping board away

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<v Speaker 4>from where it leans on the wall so they can

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<v Speaker 4>get behind there and clean there. And I'll pull furniture

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<v Speaker 4>away from the wall so that they get behind the furniture.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel the same with my super that I've you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not working for me to the degree where it

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<v Speaker 4>should and I need to sort of manage more of

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<v Speaker 4>my super so that it earns more.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't understand. Can you control your that you can.

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<v Speaker 4>You can go in and you can control and you

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<v Speaker 4>can make some cash and some you know like this,

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<v Speaker 4>there's stuff like this. I do believe for many, many women,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm speaking very generally, that how we deal with

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<v Speaker 4>our money is a blind spot for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Just super.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there are so many things like that that

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<v Speaker 6>if you just ring up with your mortgage, you can

0:22:56.914 --> 0:23:00.034
<v Speaker 6>get you know, just one phone call can get a discount,

0:23:00.114 --> 0:23:02.674
<v Speaker 6>or your or your energy companies or that is a

0:23:02.674 --> 0:23:05.754
<v Speaker 6>constant thing that's on your list, thinking of insurance, the

0:23:05.834 --> 0:23:08.554
<v Speaker 6>car insurance, you know what else? I've been putting off

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<v Speaker 6>a wool wash. Just got this pile of jumpers sitting

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<v Speaker 6>there like they've gone there to die.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look at them every.

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<v Speaker 6>Now and then and I'm like, I know I need

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<v Speaker 6>to do a wool wash, but like I pretty much

0:23:19.234 --> 0:23:21.554
<v Speaker 6>should just put them in the bin because.

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<v Speaker 4>I never winters. Where were we're in winter?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I'll get to it.

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<v Speaker 7>Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a pretty few weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's fair.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've never heard the words wool wash.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>What about don't I don't like wool.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't. It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>It just grades on my skin. So I don't have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of wool, so I don't have to do

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<v Speaker 5>a wall wash.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have your cash me or your marine or wool.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't just put it in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Machine because it felts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I've got a wool cycle on my machine.

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<v Speaker 1>This has motivated me. I'm going to go home and

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<v Speaker 1>wash those wooly jumpers.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, bit of a gear change here. Speaking of things

0:23:55.834 --> 0:23:58.914
<v Speaker 4>we're trying to avoid, here's one thing we can't avoid death.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we can take better care of ourselves and

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<v Speaker 4>we can try not to think about it, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>not really listening to us. What I was listening to

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<v Speaker 4>was Roy Valentine's eulogy for his beautiful father, James Valentine,

0:24:11.794 --> 0:24:14.754
<v Speaker 4>who died recently. For those of you that don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>James Valentine was an incredible broadcaster. His parents came from

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<v Speaker 4>broadcasting as well, and he was on the ABC for many,

0:24:22.074 --> 0:24:24.914
<v Speaker 4>many years. But he was also a horned player that

0:24:24.954 --> 0:24:27.234
<v Speaker 4>played for the Models, and he had a whole big

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<v Speaker 4>music career prior to this. He died recently and his

0:24:30.434 --> 0:24:35.314
<v Speaker 4>beautiful son, Roy Valentine, gave one of the most incredible eulogies,

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<v Speaker 4>and what I loved about what he had to say

0:24:37.834 --> 0:24:39.714
<v Speaker 4>was what his father would say to him and his

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<v Speaker 4>sister most days, which was how do you want to live?

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<v Speaker 4>Which is a really interesting question. Here's a little of

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<v Speaker 4>what his son Roy said at his memorial service.

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<v Speaker 8>How do you want to live? How do you want

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<v Speaker 8>to live? My dad figured out how to ask us

0:25:00.594 --> 0:25:03.313
<v Speaker 8>this question rather than what do you want to be?

0:25:04.394 --> 0:25:06.754
<v Speaker 8>The first question suggests a way of living that could

0:25:06.754 --> 0:25:11.073
<v Speaker 8>be fast or slow, rich or poor city or country.

0:25:11.154 --> 0:25:15.714
<v Speaker 8>It also implies doing it now. The second question ignores

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<v Speaker 8>all that stuff that matters and focuses on some endpoint.

0:25:19.034 --> 0:25:21.474
<v Speaker 8>Happiness will be yours when you reach it, but you

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<v Speaker 8>never do. The person who aspires is not the person

0:25:25.074 --> 0:25:31.033
<v Speaker 8>who attains. How do you want to live? My dad

0:25:31.074 --> 0:25:35.154
<v Speaker 8>lived exactly how he wanted to live. His days consisted

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<v Speaker 8>of conversations, friends, family, music, laughter, cooking, bushwalking, swimming, A

0:25:41.594 --> 0:25:46.434
<v Speaker 8>life prioritizing joy, A life insisting on silliness while finding

0:25:46.474 --> 0:25:50.394
<v Speaker 8>the depth in the mundane, A life prioritizing what nurtured

0:25:50.434 --> 0:25:54.794
<v Speaker 8>his soul. My dad lived exactly how he wanted to live.

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<v Speaker 3>Brilliant, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>That's I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just such a great reminder of, you know, just

0:26:01.074 --> 0:26:03.954
<v Speaker 4>being true to yourself and having you know, a vision

0:26:03.994 --> 0:26:07.674
<v Speaker 4>that you can actually execute, you know, like the all things,

0:26:07.794 --> 0:26:12.194
<v Speaker 4>our little passions, scattering passions throughout our days and our lives,

0:26:12.234 --> 0:26:15.994
<v Speaker 4>and stop waiting for that moment where everything has to

0:26:16.074 --> 0:26:19.234
<v Speaker 4>perfectly align in order for you to achieve what you

0:26:19.314 --> 0:26:21.394
<v Speaker 4>need to achieve in terms of how you want to live.

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<v Speaker 4>I just love that. Also, you know you're gonna ask yourself,

0:26:25.314 --> 0:26:28.194
<v Speaker 4>how do you want to die, you know, because I

0:26:28.554 --> 0:26:31.874
<v Speaker 4>used to work with a very famous entrepreneur and producer

0:26:31.914 --> 0:26:34.714
<v Speaker 4>called Harry and Miller. I don't know whether most of

0:26:34.714 --> 0:26:37.754
<v Speaker 4>the listeners remember Harry, but Harry used to go to

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of funerals, as we all do, and he

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<v Speaker 4>kept a file on his computer of how he wanted

0:26:43.994 --> 0:26:47.553
<v Speaker 4>his funeral to be, and you know, and said, this

0:26:47.634 --> 0:26:49.314
<v Speaker 4>is where I want the speakers to be, this is

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<v Speaker 4>who I want to speak, this is how I want

0:26:51.514 --> 0:26:54.034
<v Speaker 4>it to look. And you know, we don't think about

0:26:54.074 --> 0:26:56.634
<v Speaker 4>that because it's a hard thing to think about death,

0:26:57.554 --> 0:26:59.874
<v Speaker 4>and yet it's the thing that's the one thing we

0:26:59.914 --> 0:27:03.634
<v Speaker 4>all share in common. Brunna and I went to our

0:27:03.634 --> 0:27:06.914
<v Speaker 4>good friend's mother's funeral a few days ago, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It was beautiful.

0:27:08.554 --> 0:27:11.714
<v Speaker 4>It was beautiful to see a whole life put together

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<v Speaker 4>for what was an incredible service. The three daughters got

0:27:15.514 --> 0:27:18.954
<v Speaker 4>up and spoke, as did the grandchildren, and we learned

0:27:18.954 --> 0:27:21.874
<v Speaker 4>more about their mother in that like small little service

0:27:21.914 --> 0:27:26.434
<v Speaker 4>that was beautiful and intimate and personal than we'd known.

0:27:26.554 --> 0:27:29.314
<v Speaker 4>We'd known this woman for the last thirty thirty five years,

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<v Speaker 4>and there was so much we didn't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Mary has this great line in her stage show,

0:27:33.474 --> 0:27:36.194
<v Speaker 5>which is like death that has one billion followers and

0:27:36.314 --> 0:27:39.154
<v Speaker 5>zero likes, which is the last something that is.

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<v Speaker 7>So kind of profound.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that eulogy, and it's something I've been thinking

0:27:45.794 --> 0:27:49.354
<v Speaker 5>about so much. And we've all lost people over the years,

0:27:49.874 --> 0:27:53.554
<v Speaker 5>some old, some way too young, and I've got to

0:27:53.594 --> 0:27:56.954
<v Speaker 5>be honest, like, I don't drown now in sorrow. I

0:27:57.194 --> 0:27:59.793
<v Speaker 5>just asked myself that same question that he talks about,

0:28:00.594 --> 0:28:02.994
<v Speaker 5>how we're going to live, and it is this thing

0:28:03.074 --> 0:28:05.594
<v Speaker 5>we talk about it exactly like you said, it can't

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<v Speaker 5>be an idea you aspired to.

0:28:06.754 --> 0:28:09.234
<v Speaker 7>It has to be something that you're actually doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And so that's what I keep thinking about all

0:28:12.194 --> 0:28:14.553
<v Speaker 5>the time, and thought about that same as Mary at

0:28:14.594 --> 0:28:17.154
<v Speaker 5>the funeral the other day, looking at how she lived.

0:28:17.194 --> 0:28:19.714
<v Speaker 5>I'm not interested in thinking about how I die or

0:28:19.714 --> 0:28:23.074
<v Speaker 5>what that funeral looks like. I couldn't care less. I'm

0:28:23.114 --> 0:28:25.234
<v Speaker 5>interested in what we do when we're kind of on

0:28:25.274 --> 0:28:25.674
<v Speaker 5>this earth.

0:28:25.914 --> 0:28:29.154
<v Speaker 6>So it occurs to me that when people are close

0:28:29.194 --> 0:28:31.034
<v Speaker 6>to death or they know that they're going to die,

0:28:31.194 --> 0:28:35.273
<v Speaker 6>often their minds seem to turn to what am I

0:28:35.394 --> 0:28:36.314
<v Speaker 6>going to leave?

0:28:36.554 --> 0:28:36.754
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:28:36.794 --> 0:28:39.274
<v Speaker 6>And it might be financially, what am I going to leave?

0:28:39.394 --> 0:28:42.594
<v Speaker 6>What am I going to leave my children with? You know,

0:28:42.754 --> 0:28:45.114
<v Speaker 6>both emotionally as well as you know all of those

0:28:45.114 --> 0:28:48.434
<v Speaker 6>other things. But to then flip that on its head

0:28:48.514 --> 0:28:51.154
<v Speaker 6>and go, how am I going to live? Instead of

0:28:51.194 --> 0:28:53.594
<v Speaker 6>sort of working your whole life to what you're going

0:28:53.674 --> 0:28:56.794
<v Speaker 6>to leave behind, by thinking how I'm going to live,

0:28:57.714 --> 0:29:00.514
<v Speaker 6>you end up leaving so much more, don't you get?

0:29:00.674 --> 0:29:04.194
<v Speaker 6>Hundreds and living for yourself? I think that sometimes the

0:29:04.234 --> 0:29:07.754
<v Speaker 6>circle of life can be that you're always trying to,

0:29:08.594 --> 0:29:10.754
<v Speaker 6>you know, to leave something and to do better for

0:29:11.074 --> 0:29:13.594
<v Speaker 6>the next people that are coming, and to look after

0:29:13.594 --> 0:29:16.474
<v Speaker 6>your children. But actually our lives are for us, and

0:29:16.514 --> 0:29:19.954
<v Speaker 6>by living completely fully and so earnest, doesn't it, But

0:29:20.034 --> 0:29:24.394
<v Speaker 6>we are actually leaving such a richer kind of generation.

0:29:24.554 --> 0:29:25.034
<v Speaker 7>I think too.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't it like this idea that you can't sell anything?

0:29:27.474 --> 0:29:29.074
<v Speaker 5>I have to leave it. You have to build this

0:29:29.194 --> 0:29:32.274
<v Speaker 5>legacy or financial stability for my children. And I'm like,

0:29:32.394 --> 0:29:34.194
<v Speaker 5>why we built it?

0:29:34.354 --> 0:29:34.554
<v Speaker 2>Then?

0:29:35.034 --> 0:29:37.274
<v Speaker 5>Why not let them build it themselves? And why not

0:29:37.474 --> 0:29:42.194
<v Speaker 5>live and enjoy those experiences. I prioritize experience above all else,

0:29:42.634 --> 0:29:43.914
<v Speaker 5>I think financially.

0:29:44.274 --> 0:29:47.794
<v Speaker 6>Bruna, you told me something the other day about just

0:29:47.834 --> 0:29:50.914
<v Speaker 6>speaking of death and about if you.

0:29:50.954 --> 0:29:53.754
<v Speaker 1>Ended up on life support, can you share that with us?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe I'm an outlier here because my husband and

0:29:57.234 --> 0:29:59.874
<v Speaker 5>I have completely different directives. You know, We've talked about

0:29:59.914 --> 0:30:02.834
<v Speaker 5>all that stuff and maybe it's selfish, and I think

0:30:02.874 --> 0:30:06.514
<v Speaker 5>it is. But I am the person who says, keep

0:30:06.554 --> 0:30:08.874
<v Speaker 5>me alive at all costs, and.

0:30:08.794 --> 0:30:10.754
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of what I mean. Like, I've worked hard

0:30:10.874 --> 0:30:11.554
<v Speaker 3>my whole life.

0:30:11.554 --> 0:30:14.754
<v Speaker 5>I hope I'm in a position where I'm like my

0:30:14.834 --> 0:30:17.354
<v Speaker 5>husband's like, so you would be fine becoming a financial burden,

0:30:17.314 --> 0:30:20.674
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, yep, because I believe medicine is

0:30:20.754 --> 0:30:23.634
<v Speaker 5>moving at such a fast pace then maybe something will

0:30:23.674 --> 0:30:24.074
<v Speaker 5>come along.

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<v Speaker 2>So save me.

0:30:25.194 --> 0:30:28.234
<v Speaker 6>Your brain did and you are on lot. You're on

0:30:28.274 --> 0:30:31.794
<v Speaker 6>a machine that's keeping you alive, no brain function. They're

0:30:31.794 --> 0:30:34.754
<v Speaker 6>all saying that she will never wake up. You want

0:30:34.794 --> 0:30:40.474
<v Speaker 6>to keep your whole family in limbo and financial distress.

0:30:42.034 --> 0:30:44.794
<v Speaker 1>I really hope to get your whim.

0:30:44.874 --> 0:30:47.274
<v Speaker 5>But if you saw my Google history, it literally is

0:30:47.314 --> 0:30:48.114
<v Speaker 5>like cry it.

0:30:48.154 --> 0:30:49.594
<v Speaker 7>What's it called criogenics?

0:30:49.634 --> 0:30:51.994
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm literally always trying to find out, like what's

0:30:52.034 --> 0:30:55.394
<v Speaker 5>the cost of, you know, putting yourself on ice and

0:30:55.514 --> 0:30:59.634
<v Speaker 5>tell something shifts? Listen medicine is changing faster than any

0:30:59.634 --> 0:31:01.634
<v Speaker 5>of us can ever imagine.

0:31:01.314 --> 0:31:02.754
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sorry, but.

0:31:02.794 --> 0:31:05.634
<v Speaker 5>I like being in the world and I am that person.

0:31:05.994 --> 0:31:07.994
<v Speaker 5>I'm not brave enough to be the opposite.

0:31:08.114 --> 0:31:10.274
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean bringing it right back to the living,

0:31:10.354 --> 0:31:12.994
<v Speaker 2>the very much living. My seventeen year old son just

0:31:13.074 --> 0:31:17.794
<v Speaker 2>hearing Roy Valentine's speech, that's really filled me with because

0:31:17.834 --> 0:31:19.994
<v Speaker 2>we are right in the what am I going to

0:31:20.034 --> 0:31:20.354
<v Speaker 2>do when.

0:31:20.234 --> 0:31:22.394
<v Speaker 3>I leave school? We're right in the what do you

0:31:22.474 --> 0:31:22.914
<v Speaker 3>want to be?

0:31:23.274 --> 0:31:26.994
<v Speaker 2>And that has just totally reframed how I want to

0:31:27.034 --> 0:31:29.994
<v Speaker 2>have that conversation with him. Yes, about It's not the

0:31:30.114 --> 0:31:32.394
<v Speaker 2>end game or being the astronaut or the mechanic or

0:31:32.394 --> 0:31:32.994
<v Speaker 2>the footy star.

0:31:33.114 --> 0:31:33.274
<v Speaker 8>Is it.

0:31:33.274 --> 0:31:35.594
<v Speaker 2>It's about how you want to show up? Is your

0:31:35.634 --> 0:31:36.714
<v Speaker 2>life fast or slow?

0:31:36.834 --> 0:31:37.394
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to.

0:31:37.354 --> 0:31:39.394
<v Speaker 2>Live it here or oversee? You know what a what

0:31:39.474 --> 0:31:42.754
<v Speaker 2>a fabulous waiter. Yeah, it's great to repaint the kind.

0:31:42.674 --> 0:31:45.674
<v Speaker 3>Of the chat. So that's that is my takeaway from this.

0:31:46.714 --> 0:31:49.554
<v Speaker 4>I think you could equally substitute how do you want

0:31:49.554 --> 0:31:51.594
<v Speaker 4>to live with how do you want to love? Too,

0:31:52.234 --> 0:31:56.234
<v Speaker 4>and then that might inform the other because I think

0:31:56.274 --> 0:31:58.194
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, and that day will

0:31:58.314 --> 0:32:01.514
<v Speaker 4>end for all of us. It's how you've loved. That's

0:32:01.554 --> 0:32:05.674
<v Speaker 4>what you've left behind more than anything. And going to

0:32:05.994 --> 0:32:09.114
<v Speaker 4>our friend's mother's funeral, you know, it was all about that,

0:32:09.354 --> 0:32:13.514
<v Speaker 4>nothing more. And that's a simple reminder. Sometimes we need

0:32:13.554 --> 0:32:14.794
<v Speaker 4>to keep it simple for ourselves.

0:32:14.834 --> 0:32:15.394
<v Speaker 3>We get so.

0:32:15.314 --> 0:32:19.554
<v Speaker 4>Overwhelmed with bigger ideas and concepts and more achievements and

0:32:19.594 --> 0:32:21.474
<v Speaker 4>more this and more that. How do you love and

0:32:21.514 --> 0:32:23.234
<v Speaker 4>how do you want to be loved? I think is

0:32:23.274 --> 0:32:24.594
<v Speaker 4>an equally important question.

0:32:25.794 --> 0:32:28.554
<v Speaker 6>I know that I haven't known you guys all that long,

0:32:28.834 --> 0:32:30.274
<v Speaker 6>but I really love you guys.

0:32:31.034 --> 0:32:31.594
<v Speaker 3>We love you.

0:32:31.794 --> 0:32:34.234
<v Speaker 4>I love you. It's so bad. I feel like we

0:32:34.354 --> 0:32:36.674
<v Speaker 4>fell in love on the first date. I feel like

0:32:36.714 --> 0:32:40.114
<v Speaker 4>that mental person that the minute we all got together

0:32:40.154 --> 0:32:42.194
<v Speaker 4>for that photo shoot at the beginning, I was like,

0:32:42.274 --> 0:32:45.034
<v Speaker 4>has my heart just expanded with time?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure I'm in love completely head over heels.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm only kidding.

0:33:06.514 --> 0:33:09.114
<v Speaker 2>Big week in the Mahony John's household.

0:33:09.354 --> 0:33:11.274
<v Speaker 3>Last week, lou my.

0:33:11.354 --> 0:33:15.874
<v Speaker 2>Son had his year twelve formal. Oh that deal, it

0:33:15.914 --> 0:33:16.594
<v Speaker 2>was a big deal.

0:33:16.714 --> 0:33:18.754
<v Speaker 1>Has he got a girlfriend or did he take a date?

0:33:19.194 --> 0:33:21.994
<v Speaker 2>Or a boy took a date? You know they're not

0:33:22.034 --> 0:33:25.514
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend and girlfriend. There were strict rules around you know,

0:33:25.594 --> 0:33:27.634
<v Speaker 2>not talking to her because.

0:33:27.434 --> 0:33:29.994
<v Speaker 3>I don't are you talking to her?

0:33:30.074 --> 0:33:30.234
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:33:32.514 --> 0:33:33.234
<v Speaker 3>It was very clear.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is all new to me. There's there's things

0:33:36.554 --> 0:33:37.914
<v Speaker 2>called prieze have you.

0:33:37.874 --> 0:33:38.514
<v Speaker 3>Heard of those?

0:33:38.674 --> 0:33:41.074
<v Speaker 1>We had PRIs so a pre.

0:33:41.314 --> 0:33:43.714
<v Speaker 2>For those that don't know is where all the parents

0:33:43.754 --> 0:33:47.074
<v Speaker 2>get together with the kids before they go in formal.

0:33:47.394 --> 0:33:50.194
<v Speaker 2>So we had our lovely friend Lusette god bless Her

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<v Speaker 2>hosted about sixty people forty year twelve couples.

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<v Speaker 3>And then their parents.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you get the photos before they go off

0:33:57.834 --> 0:33:59.474
<v Speaker 2>in the sort of bus or whatever they go on

0:33:59.514 --> 0:34:02.354
<v Speaker 2>to the year twelve formal and lou was very specific

0:34:03.034 --> 0:34:06.034
<v Speaker 2>that we basically don't make eye contact or speak to

0:34:06.154 --> 0:34:08.794
<v Speaker 2>his date to to dad and I, which was difficult

0:34:08.794 --> 0:34:10.074
<v Speaker 2>when you're having a group photo.

0:34:10.514 --> 0:34:12.153
<v Speaker 1>Did you go with his dad?

0:34:12.674 --> 0:34:15.474
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, we did that. So it was lovely.

0:34:15.514 --> 0:34:19.274
<v Speaker 2>We've got some great photos, some awkward family photos and

0:34:19.354 --> 0:34:22.394
<v Speaker 2>for me like so obviously if I had a daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>we would have gone dress shopping and there would have

0:34:25.674 --> 0:34:26.194
<v Speaker 2>been makeup.

0:34:26.234 --> 0:34:27.634
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there would have been a spray town.

0:34:27.674 --> 0:34:31.433
<v Speaker 2>There would have been some hair situation, makeup shoes like

0:34:31.514 --> 0:34:33.674
<v Speaker 2>the lot where it comes to boys.

0:34:34.234 --> 0:34:37.114
<v Speaker 3>Dad was on suit duty. So the only thing that I.

0:34:37.034 --> 0:34:40.433
<v Speaker 2>Could get involved with was to buy the corsah. They

0:34:40.474 --> 0:34:44.433
<v Speaker 2>still do the yes for his date, and so I

0:34:44.474 --> 0:34:46.634
<v Speaker 2>inquired what color dress she was wearing and.

0:34:46.594 --> 0:34:47.593
<v Speaker 3>I was told it was black.

0:34:47.634 --> 0:34:49.114
<v Speaker 2>And I was so then that the florist was like,

0:34:49.154 --> 0:34:50.954
<v Speaker 2>do you want a black ribbon with the flowers? And

0:34:50.994 --> 0:34:52.674
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know if I should make

0:34:52.714 --> 0:34:55.154
<v Speaker 2>that choice for her, you know, like, Luke, can you

0:34:55.234 --> 0:34:57.314
<v Speaker 2>ask her? He didn't want to ask her. I was like,

0:34:57.354 --> 0:35:02.074
<v Speaker 2>can I have a number? Absolutely not, So to be safe,

0:35:02.114 --> 0:35:04.114
<v Speaker 2>we went with white in case she didn't want that

0:35:04.114 --> 0:35:05.914
<v Speaker 2>so or in case she didn't wear the black dress.

0:35:07.194 --> 0:35:08.154
<v Speaker 3>But when I picked up.

0:35:08.034 --> 0:35:12.354
<v Speaker 2>The corsage, I just thought I never had a formal.

0:35:12.474 --> 0:35:13.874
<v Speaker 3>I never went to a formal.

0:35:14.514 --> 0:35:17.514
<v Speaker 2>No one Zeba bought me a corsage like I wanted

0:35:17.554 --> 0:35:21.114
<v Speaker 2>to have, like a Mother of the Sun formal corsage

0:35:21.234 --> 0:35:24.834
<v Speaker 2>made so that I could just wear a little cheeky corsar.

0:35:25.074 --> 0:35:26.794
<v Speaker 1>Why did you not did they not do that in

0:35:26.834 --> 0:35:28.914
<v Speaker 1>the UK? Or why did you not go to a formal?

0:35:29.034 --> 0:35:30.674
<v Speaker 3>They didn't do it in the UK, you know.

0:35:30.794 --> 0:35:35.594
<v Speaker 2>So the pain of growing up watching American movies and

0:35:35.754 --> 0:35:39.354
<v Speaker 2>prom and grease and pretty and pink and just wanting

0:35:39.394 --> 0:35:41.953
<v Speaker 2>the dress and the hair and the dance, and yeah

0:35:41.994 --> 0:35:42.953
<v Speaker 2>we never had it.

0:35:43.314 --> 0:35:46.194
<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like you've been jypped? You know,

0:35:46.314 --> 0:35:48.873
<v Speaker 1>you haven't been able to you know, because you would

0:35:48.914 --> 0:35:50.634
<v Speaker 1>have been the perfect girl to go to a formal.

0:35:50.674 --> 0:35:52.634
<v Speaker 1>You're so beautiful, you love the frogs. You could have

0:35:52.714 --> 0:35:55.114
<v Speaker 1>got the hair done. Like, how do you feel?

0:35:55.314 --> 0:35:58.514
<v Speaker 3>I feel really ripped off? Yeah, I feel really ripped off.

0:35:58.674 --> 0:36:01.874
<v Speaker 2>And like I just I don't have a care memory

0:36:01.914 --> 0:36:03.514
<v Speaker 2>of the taffata one shoulder dress.

0:36:03.594 --> 0:36:05.154
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you would have looked so beautiful in.

0:36:05.994 --> 0:36:08.594
<v Speaker 2>I think, looking back with my very very sort of

0:36:08.674 --> 0:36:10.953
<v Speaker 2>tweezed eyebrows, A don't how good I would have looked.

0:36:11.114 --> 0:36:13.834
<v Speaker 1>Tapeta blue Tapeter with the eyebrows would have been great.

0:36:13.994 --> 0:36:17.314
<v Speaker 4>Kath you are the most stylish woman I know. I

0:36:17.354 --> 0:36:20.594
<v Speaker 4>feel like you're dressing from a prom every single day exactly,

0:36:20.834 --> 0:36:23.394
<v Speaker 4>the only thing that's missing is the corsage, the rest.

0:36:23.554 --> 0:36:27.514
<v Speaker 4>You always look immaculate, like every day's a prom for you.

0:36:27.514 --> 0:36:32.314
<v Speaker 6>Guys, I went to quite a few jimals, Yes I did. Yes, well,

0:36:32.514 --> 0:36:34.274
<v Speaker 6>we had one in year eleven and year twelve, and

0:36:34.314 --> 0:36:35.754
<v Speaker 6>then I was invited to guy I went to an

0:36:35.754 --> 0:36:37.554
<v Speaker 6>all girls school, so then I was invited to a

0:36:37.594 --> 0:36:41.434
<v Speaker 6>couple and I can just give you the quickened dirty. Basically,

0:36:41.754 --> 0:36:45.754
<v Speaker 6>you go to a dress shop. In my day, you

0:36:45.954 --> 0:36:47.993
<v Speaker 6>would buy a dress. We all went to this one

0:36:48.034 --> 0:36:49.554
<v Speaker 6>called Memphis in Melbourne.

0:36:49.874 --> 0:36:51.314
<v Speaker 3>You'd go and.

0:36:51.274 --> 0:36:57.154
<v Speaker 6>When you bought a dress, they they would write down

0:36:57.754 --> 0:37:00.433
<v Speaker 6>in a book, in a paper diary, which dress you'd

0:37:00.434 --> 0:37:04.354
<v Speaker 6>bought and which ball you were going to, so there

0:37:04.434 --> 0:37:09.994
<v Speaker 6>wasn't two people wearing the same. And then you'd have

0:37:10.074 --> 0:37:12.393
<v Speaker 6>your hair appointment and you'd go in there and you'd

0:37:12.474 --> 0:37:14.634
<v Speaker 6>end up with some Betty Boo hair and they'd assure

0:37:14.634 --> 0:37:17.314
<v Speaker 6>you that it would drop, and it never completely dropped.

0:37:17.474 --> 0:37:20.873
<v Speaker 4>That was in the years of Moose and Dray and.

0:37:21.114 --> 0:37:22.154
<v Speaker 1>Never ever dropped.

0:37:22.474 --> 0:37:25.034
<v Speaker 6>And then the makeup artists would come and do like

0:37:25.114 --> 0:37:26.434
<v Speaker 6>fifteen artists.

0:37:26.514 --> 0:37:27.834
<v Speaker 1>She was absolutely not an artist.

0:37:27.914 --> 0:37:31.754
<v Speaker 6>She had pancake, remember that, like orange pancake, a lort

0:37:31.794 --> 0:37:32.674
<v Speaker 6>of eyebrows.

0:37:32.754 --> 0:37:36.473
<v Speaker 1>Actually she might have been good for you, Cath and

0:37:36.514 --> 0:37:38.154
<v Speaker 1>we all looked like Dolly Parton.

0:37:38.394 --> 0:37:41.674
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, anyone with boobs had them pushed up to their necks.

0:37:41.754 --> 0:37:44.594
<v Speaker 6>I didn't, and then you got your corsage. But one

0:37:44.594 --> 0:37:47.073
<v Speaker 6>of my core memories actually it was my very first.

0:37:47.154 --> 0:37:48.714
<v Speaker 6>It was my year eleven ball. It was the first

0:37:48.754 --> 0:37:51.794
<v Speaker 6>one i'd been to. I had a boyfriend, which was

0:37:51.794 --> 0:37:54.314
<v Speaker 6>one of those year eleven type boyfriends that we didn't

0:37:54.314 --> 0:37:56.634
<v Speaker 6>really talk to each other much, and we kissed a

0:37:56.634 --> 0:37:58.993
<v Speaker 6>couple of times, but you know, and I thought we

0:37:58.994 --> 0:38:01.114
<v Speaker 6>were going to get married. He was very handsome, and

0:38:01.794 --> 0:38:04.393
<v Speaker 6>he arrived at the we caught it before parties, the

0:38:04.394 --> 0:38:07.994
<v Speaker 6>pre which was at my house. He arrived late in

0:38:08.034 --> 0:38:10.674
<v Speaker 6>a taxi with a bag of McDonald's.

0:38:11.594 --> 0:38:13.314
<v Speaker 1>And he had a little bit of ketchup on his

0:38:13.394 --> 0:38:18.714
<v Speaker 1>fail and came in, didn't talk to me, didn't have

0:38:18.754 --> 0:38:21.674
<v Speaker 1>a corsage, and then.

0:38:21.594 --> 0:38:24.393
<v Speaker 6>We got to the ball. We went in our limos.

0:38:24.434 --> 0:38:26.514
<v Speaker 6>We got to the ball, he broke up with me,

0:38:27.594 --> 0:38:31.874
<v Speaker 6>kissed another girl, interesting twist, married her and they have three.

0:38:31.794 --> 0:38:39.274
<v Speaker 1>Kids together, so that's nice for them. Were heartbroken on

0:38:39.274 --> 0:38:41.274
<v Speaker 1>the night, Not really, I wouln't kiss someone else too.

0:38:41.434 --> 0:38:44.234
<v Speaker 1>We did, okay, but that was the kind of thing.

0:38:44.114 --> 0:38:47.634
<v Speaker 6>That would happen at these balls. But that was getting ready,

0:38:47.834 --> 0:38:49.834
<v Speaker 6>the shopping for the dress. All of those things were

0:38:49.874 --> 0:38:50.754
<v Speaker 6>so lovely and I'm.

0:38:50.634 --> 0:38:51.474
<v Speaker 1>Sorry that you didn't.

0:38:51.834 --> 0:38:53.874
<v Speaker 6>I have that like it feels like of all people,

0:38:54.474 --> 0:38:57.194
<v Speaker 6>kath you were the one who should have had this

0:38:57.274 --> 0:38:59.913
<v Speaker 6>formal experience, or at least had a daughter to you

0:38:59.954 --> 0:39:04.114
<v Speaker 6>could go and do all the frock I've got two nieces.

0:39:04.154 --> 0:39:05.874
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna yeah exactly.

0:39:07.634 --> 0:39:10.473
<v Speaker 6>And you can take my daughter, Clementine dress shopping when

0:39:10.514 --> 0:39:13.114
<v Speaker 6>she goes to her ball. She actually looks a lot

0:39:13.154 --> 0:39:15.634
<v Speaker 6>like you, so they'll mistake you for mother and daughter

0:39:15.674 --> 0:39:16.073
<v Speaker 6>for sure.

0:39:16.114 --> 0:39:18.394
<v Speaker 3>Lock me in is Memphis still open?

0:39:18.714 --> 0:39:19.794
<v Speaker 1>I think we can do better.

0:39:20.114 --> 0:39:21.594
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that is all we have time for today.

0:39:23.954 --> 0:39:26.354
<v Speaker 2>Now, before you go back into the world, can we

0:39:26.394 --> 0:39:29.714
<v Speaker 2>ask you one tiny thing. If you have that one

0:39:29.754 --> 0:39:32.474
<v Speaker 2>friend that you know needs a bit of unleashed in

0:39:32.514 --> 0:39:36.194
<v Speaker 2>her life, share the show, Share the show, share the love,

0:39:36.674 --> 0:39:39.114
<v Speaker 2>send her the link. We don't have a big budget

0:39:39.194 --> 0:39:42.553
<v Speaker 2>for any billboards or any advertising, so you ladies out

0:39:42.594 --> 0:39:46.674
<v Speaker 2>there are our walking share the love. And I just

0:39:46.754 --> 0:39:48.794
<v Speaker 2>have to say before we go, I had one of

0:39:48.994 --> 0:39:52.393
<v Speaker 2>the loveliest things happened to me on the weekend. I

0:39:52.474 --> 0:39:55.194
<v Speaker 2>was getting my hair blow dried and there was a

0:39:55.234 --> 0:39:57.274
<v Speaker 2>beautiful lady who was sat at one of the other

0:39:57.354 --> 0:40:01.354
<v Speaker 2>chairs just having her hair finished, called Melissa, and Melissa

0:40:01.394 --> 0:40:03.834
<v Speaker 2>I could see was kind of looking at me, and

0:40:03.874 --> 0:40:05.393
<v Speaker 2>then when I sat down and she was.

0:40:05.354 --> 0:40:09.074
<v Speaker 3>Like, you have my home said yes, I'm so excited.

0:40:09.114 --> 0:40:11.754
<v Speaker 3>I never support it before, and she said I knew

0:40:11.754 --> 0:40:12.114
<v Speaker 3>it was you.

0:40:12.194 --> 0:40:14.473
<v Speaker 2>She said, I was just texting my daughter because I

0:40:14.514 --> 0:40:17.554
<v Speaker 2>love Unleashed and she was like, whatever you do, don't

0:40:17.754 --> 0:40:20.634
<v Speaker 2>fan girl the lady mum, but she said so, I

0:40:20.914 --> 0:40:23.873
<v Speaker 2>just can't help myself. Anyway, we had a chat. She

0:40:23.994 --> 0:40:27.034
<v Speaker 2>told me about how she loves all of us. Tuesday

0:40:27.074 --> 0:40:29.234
<v Speaker 2>is a favorite day and anyway, she was kind of

0:40:29.274 --> 0:40:31.554
<v Speaker 2>done before I was. And then she left, and a

0:40:31.634 --> 0:40:33.794
<v Speaker 2>lovely lady that runs the salon came in and said,

0:40:34.034 --> 0:40:39.634
<v Speaker 2>she's just paid for your blow dry. I've never done

0:40:39.674 --> 0:40:43.834
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. Very lovely. I love that.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Melissa very very much.

0:40:46.994 --> 0:40:49.154
<v Speaker 1>And if you ever visit Melbourne, I like to go

0:40:49.194 --> 0:40:49.393
<v Speaker 1>to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, you guys are why we make the show. We

0:40:54.434 --> 0:40:55.433
<v Speaker 2>bloody love you back.

0:40:55.594 --> 0:40:55.913
<v Speaker 3>We do.

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0:41:04.794 --> 0:41:09.074
<v Speaker 2>we like to say, ladies seeing it Tuesday. Until then,

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