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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA mea podcast from Mom and Mia.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm

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Speaker 1: Laura Brodney and I'm m Vernon, and welcome to our

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Speaker 1: brutally honest review of Bridgeton Season four Part one. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, really a whole mouthful of that new title.

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Speaker 2: I just really really really really really need to see

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Speaker 2: the second half.

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Speaker 1: What it did end on such a good clicksank god,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Like, I actually coming into the office today, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I really don't want to do this because it's just

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Speaker 2: I was so upset after the end.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you and I have not discussed this

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Speaker 1: at allways, No, no, no, we keep all of our thoughts

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Speaker 1: for the pod. So hold on to that moment. We're

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Speaker 1: going to get there right the end. Yeah, right at

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Speaker 1: the end. We're going to get there. So if you

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Speaker 1: haven't watched British in season four part one, which is

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Speaker 1: better at Extorre, we are going to be diving into

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Speaker 1: the first four episodes, all the plot twists, all the reveals,

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Speaker 1: all the spoilers, so just be aware of that. But

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Speaker 1: we couldn't wait till the end of the whole season,

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Speaker 1: there was too much to discuss. The momentum is going.

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Speaker 1: So Bridgeton Season four gives us the story of Benedict Bridgeton,

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Speaker 1: played by Luke Thompson. So obviously all of the Brigiston

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Speaker 1: seasons are based on the Julia Quinn books. Every Brigist

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Speaker 1: and reach their true potential through marriage.

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Speaker 2: Benedict's book is called you Want Nothing unless You're married.

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Speaker 1: And that is the message of Bridgington. And I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of okay. We're like hell yeah, exactly like I said,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be my child by Barrel, which

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Speaker 2: So different to the episode we had yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Exactly they say, we're like, you don't need marriage or children.

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Speaker 1: Today we're like marriage the only option we need content exactly. Well,

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Speaker 1: I like it. Sometimes it's nice to have a clear goal.

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Speaker 1: I do think the bad thing about feminism is it's

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Speaker 1: given us too many choices. That's so true, and now

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Speaker 1: be doing. So Season four of Bridgeton is based on

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Speaker 1: the Julia Quinn book. An offer from a gentleman and yeah,

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Speaker 1: because she gets it, did you just get it? I

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Speaker 1: don't like that she gets an offer to be a mistress.

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Speaker 1: Early in this new season, we're introduced to our new

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Speaker 1: leading lady of the season, Sophie Beck, played by Australian

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Speaker 1: actress Yaron ha.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say, Yaron Ha, I love Bridgeton, love

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Speaker 2: the whole cast, love everyone who has been on it.

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Speaker 2: She by far has been my favorite actor on this show.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Really, I mean she said to me, true, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think she was incredible and we've only seen half

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Speaker 2: of her I know her like acting in this I

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Speaker 2: thought she played Sophie so so well. I thought she

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Speaker 2: was so convincing. Her accent was amazing, even though a

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Speaker 2: lot of people who have talked to about these four

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Speaker 2: like Ossie's you can't really hear it, Like I can't

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Speaker 2: she was brilliant in this role.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so good. And they cast such a wide

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Speaker 1: she was incredible just on her own the test reads

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Speaker 2: Bridgeton rides on chemistry, Like, yeah, every single Bridgeton couple

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Speaker 1: Of that man. I say, I always had like a

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Speaker 1: but it goes Anthony, Colin, Daphne, Eloise, Francesca, higher sense, Gregory.

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Speaker 2: But he like, we didn't see that much of him

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Speaker 2: I also like every season we get multiple family engagements

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Speaker 1: It is very formal, and it's interesting because the Bridgeston

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Speaker 2: What I really enjoyed about this first episode actually another

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Speaker 1: Of all the other Wow, you're full of the revelations, like.

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Speaker 2: A full movie.

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Speaker 1: First episode one hundred percent, because we are introduced to

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Speaker 2: I am so impressed that they picked her to be

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Speaker 1: Yes, she has kind of been painted in a villain,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, give her a big heart, especially because she's so

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Speaker 1: I've got to.

434
00:19:29,754 --> 00:19:32,714
Speaker 2: I don't like it. She can't go as hard anymore.

435
00:19:32,754 --> 00:19:35,313
Speaker 1: I do feel like Lady whistle Down has lost her

436
00:19:35,394 --> 00:19:37,914
Speaker 1: bite a bit this season, but maybe that was just

437
00:19:37,954 --> 00:19:41,074
Speaker 1: a plot of diacettes wanted to stop relying on. But

438
00:19:41,274 --> 00:19:43,474
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it moves the story along this

439
00:19:43,554 --> 00:19:45,674
Speaker 1: season the way it has in previous season.

440
00:19:45,794 --> 00:19:48,034
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's more like a side story, I do.

441
00:19:48,594 --> 00:19:50,793
Speaker 2: I am glad they kept Julie Andrews on there. Oh,

442
00:19:50,954 --> 00:19:53,674
Speaker 2: obviously if that voice went, I.

443
00:19:53,714 --> 00:19:55,954
Speaker 1: Go, But just someone making the court of Julie Andrews

444
00:19:55,954 --> 00:19:57,793
Speaker 1: to tell her her services and no longer need it.

445
00:19:57,874 --> 00:19:58,874
Speaker 2: Well we know who it is now.

446
00:19:59,674 --> 00:20:02,554
Speaker 1: I believe Julie. You don't fire Julian Andrews. Julian Andrews

447
00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:07,954
Speaker 1: fires you over if that woman calls the sh So

448
00:20:08,074 --> 00:20:11,354
Speaker 1: we also have our returning trio who were off in Scotland,

449
00:20:11,434 --> 00:20:14,874
Speaker 1: so John, Francesca, and Eloise, who all have like interesting

450
00:20:14,914 --> 00:20:16,194
Speaker 1: plot dynamics this season.

451
00:20:16,274 --> 00:20:21,674
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying the Eloise and Hyacinth dynamic. Yeah, because like

452
00:20:21,714 --> 00:20:24,073
Speaker 2: also Hyacinth, like, is it her season next?

453
00:20:24,354 --> 00:20:26,674
Speaker 1: We don't know who's next, but it could be I

454
00:20:26,714 --> 00:20:29,434
Speaker 1: don't know. They never announced till after this season. Is over.

455
00:20:29,754 --> 00:20:33,474
Speaker 1: I actually think it'll be Eloise next. Interesting but because

456
00:20:33,554 --> 00:20:35,434
Speaker 1: Hyacinth is still kind of a child. But also they

457
00:20:35,474 --> 00:20:37,354
Speaker 1: do they love to marry off children, so and.

458
00:20:37,394 --> 00:20:41,033
Speaker 2: She really wants to be married. Oh, she wants desperately

459
00:20:41,074 --> 00:20:41,874
Speaker 2: wants to be married.

460
00:20:41,914 --> 00:20:44,314
Speaker 1: Which is a nice time to see that juxtaposition between

461
00:20:44,354 --> 00:20:47,273
Speaker 1: the Elouise and Hyacinth characters and now their forces in

462
00:20:47,234 --> 00:20:49,234
Speaker 1: is so much time together the source of their viewed

463
00:20:49,274 --> 00:20:49,754
Speaker 1: with each other.

464
00:20:49,914 --> 00:20:54,234
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm enjoying Eloise starting to figure out that in

465
00:20:54,274 --> 00:20:58,074
Speaker 2: that era being single might not be the best option

466
00:20:58,634 --> 00:21:01,434
Speaker 2: to retain her freedom. Yeah, especially when you're seeing the

467
00:21:01,434 --> 00:21:04,754
Speaker 2: seating plan laid out and how the spinsters have to

468
00:21:04,874 --> 00:21:06,033
Speaker 2: sit with the boomers.

469
00:21:06,354 --> 00:21:09,154
Speaker 1: That was so true for me as as a self

470
00:21:09,194 --> 00:21:12,474
Speaker 1: identified spinster that I am when she was like, well,

471
00:21:12,474 --> 00:21:14,754
Speaker 1: at least the spinster gets to be the beautiful silver

472
00:21:14,994 --> 00:21:17,033
Speaker 1: and the woman who's giving you etiquette lessons is like,

473
00:21:17,074 --> 00:21:18,354
Speaker 1: it's actually a gray.

474
00:21:18,394 --> 00:21:21,874
Speaker 2: And like the men who could be like seventy yeah,

475
00:21:22,034 --> 00:21:23,033
Speaker 2: are still bachelors.

476
00:21:23,274 --> 00:21:26,674
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the main table exactly, still a catch.

477
00:21:26,994 --> 00:21:28,914
Speaker 2: No no, no no, no, I don't like well that

478
00:21:29,034 --> 00:21:30,674
Speaker 2: actually like made me a bit sick.

479
00:21:31,034 --> 00:21:33,313
Speaker 1: Yeah, a man, you feel stick as well. It's like,

480
00:21:33,394 --> 00:21:36,114
Speaker 1: actually really scary, I know, because the thing is like,

481
00:21:36,154 --> 00:21:38,514
Speaker 1: obviously things are better now, but at the same time

482
00:21:38,554 --> 00:21:42,154
Speaker 1: it is this like's sure to be honest, it should

483
00:21:42,154 --> 00:21:44,714
Speaker 1: be a lot better, it should be more better. But

484
00:21:45,114 --> 00:21:46,034
Speaker 1: it's definitely.

485
00:21:45,754 --> 00:21:48,834
Speaker 2: Know you're being on the spinster old people table.

486
00:21:48,754 --> 00:21:52,234
Speaker 1: I know. Can I tell you you'll know the tables

487
00:21:52,274 --> 00:21:54,954
Speaker 1: are still a thing at weddings and stuff. Let me

488
00:21:54,994 --> 00:21:56,634
Speaker 1: tell you that that's that's not on.

489
00:21:56,794 --> 00:21:58,474
Speaker 2: But at least you you know you'll be the hottest

490
00:21:58,474 --> 00:21:59,194
Speaker 2: person on the table.

491
00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:01,353
Speaker 1: That's so true, And that's exactly what I'm looking for

492
00:22:01,394 --> 00:22:04,954
Speaker 1: at a wedding table of sinsters and children and great

493
00:22:04,994 --> 00:22:09,394
Speaker 1: parents parents me looking to one sided, a grandparent to

494
00:22:09,434 --> 00:22:10,874
Speaker 1: a child, and men like, at least I'm the hottest

495
00:22:10,874 --> 00:22:17,594
Speaker 1: one here. At least I have that child. At least

496
00:22:17,594 --> 00:22:21,994
Speaker 1: I'm the hottest money here. I'm not on the single staple. Yeah. Well,

497
00:22:21,994 --> 00:22:24,474
Speaker 1: it's also was a very kind of brutal come down

498
00:22:24,474 --> 00:22:27,274
Speaker 1: to earth after Like, obviously, Eloise had a very traumatic

499
00:22:27,274 --> 00:22:29,834
Speaker 1: season last season with her best friend marrying her brother

500
00:22:29,874 --> 00:22:32,274
Speaker 1: and finding out her secret, but she ended on such

501
00:22:32,314 --> 00:22:34,434
Speaker 1: a hopeful high because she felt like she really knew

502
00:22:34,474 --> 00:22:36,554
Speaker 1: what she wanted. She felt that she was being let

503
00:22:36,554 --> 00:22:38,914
Speaker 1: out a little bit of the marriage dance from her family,

504
00:22:39,274 --> 00:22:41,833
Speaker 1: and she also wanted to go off an adventure and

505
00:22:42,314 --> 00:22:46,554
Speaker 1: travel and be outside of this like suffocating society well

506
00:22:46,634 --> 00:22:48,994
Speaker 1: that she lived in. But as a single woman, there

507
00:22:49,034 --> 00:22:51,114
Speaker 1: was no way for her to do that until her

508
00:22:51,114 --> 00:22:54,434
Speaker 1: sister Francesca was moving with her husband to Scotland and

509
00:22:54,554 --> 00:22:56,793
Speaker 1: she could go with them. And so I felt like

510
00:22:56,834 --> 00:22:58,914
Speaker 1: a huge amount of hope for her at the end

511
00:22:58,954 --> 00:23:00,674
Speaker 1: of last season when she was getting to kind of

512
00:23:00,674 --> 00:23:03,234
Speaker 1: experience the world. But then it was kind of deflating

513
00:23:03,234 --> 00:23:05,594
Speaker 1: this season when she came back and she was like, oh,

514
00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:07,074
Speaker 1: there was no one to talk to. And ITRI wasinally

515
00:23:07,114 --> 00:23:08,793
Speaker 1: because I think it was quite a rule estate. It

516
00:23:08,834 --> 00:23:12,434
Speaker 1: was a castle. Actually it was a castle, r I know,

517
00:23:12,634 --> 00:23:14,434
Speaker 1: not a castle. And then she was like, there was

518
00:23:14,474 --> 00:23:16,194
Speaker 1: no one to talk to. I almost talked to cows.

519
00:23:16,194 --> 00:23:19,074
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so that wasn't Yeah.

520
00:23:18,834 --> 00:23:21,154
Speaker 2: She did the whole like, I'm single, let me go

521
00:23:21,194 --> 00:23:23,234
Speaker 2: travel the world and so you looked out there and

522
00:23:23,274 --> 00:23:24,714
Speaker 2: she did that, and then she came back and she

523
00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:25,514
Speaker 2: was like, I didn't like.

524
00:23:25,474 --> 00:23:26,994
Speaker 1: It, I know, But I also think that if she

525
00:23:27,034 --> 00:23:29,714
Speaker 1: actually had gone into the world. If she had been

526
00:23:29,794 --> 00:23:31,834
Speaker 1: like if she had gone like through Europe and like

527
00:23:31,954 --> 00:23:34,074
Speaker 1: through is she allowed to do No, she's not. Well,

528
00:23:34,074 --> 00:23:35,553
Speaker 1: she would have to have companions with her.

529
00:23:35,674 --> 00:23:37,554
Speaker 2: I mean they did it in Little Women.

530
00:23:38,034 --> 00:23:39,754
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you do you see how like Amy had

531
00:23:39,754 --> 00:23:41,754
Speaker 1: to like accompany our march and it had to be

532
00:23:41,794 --> 00:23:45,874
Speaker 1: a whole thing. Yeah, you've got it. Yeah, you've got

533
00:23:45,914 --> 00:23:47,674
Speaker 1: to have her rich relatives, so you have to have

534
00:23:47,714 --> 00:23:50,434
Speaker 1: like people to escort you and stuff. And where's Anthony

535
00:23:50,474 --> 00:23:54,513
Speaker 1: go to India? I know, I's been such a better idea.

536
00:23:55,074 --> 00:23:56,394
Speaker 1: I just don't think that was on the tape me

537
00:23:56,394 --> 00:23:58,954
Speaker 1: in that writing room. She's not allowed to do that

538
00:23:58,994 --> 00:24:01,154
Speaker 1: because she's unmarried. Right now, she's unmarried and of the

539
00:24:01,234 --> 00:24:03,194
Speaker 1: age where she's still in the marriage market, so she's

540
00:24:03,234 --> 00:24:07,154
Speaker 1: not allowed to go off and better creditory. Yeah. But

541
00:24:07,194 --> 00:24:08,994
Speaker 1: also I was like, girl, you were still out in

542
00:24:09,034 --> 00:24:10,994
Speaker 1: the world in Scotland, like you could have gone and

543
00:24:11,274 --> 00:24:13,154
Speaker 1: explored a bit better. Yeah, I understand.

544
00:24:13,154 --> 00:24:15,354
Speaker 2: So, and you can still have friends, Like she doesn't

545
00:24:15,394 --> 00:24:16,994
Speaker 2: have to be on home reading by herself.

546
00:24:17,114 --> 00:24:18,474
Speaker 1: Well she kind of does, because she's not allowed to

547
00:24:18,514 --> 00:24:19,354
Speaker 1: go out unescorted.

548
00:24:19,674 --> 00:24:23,074
Speaker 2: Oh it's kind of like I'll be there sometimes.

549
00:24:23,194 --> 00:24:26,594
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I just think she's such an independent character,

550
00:24:26,634 --> 00:24:28,634
Speaker 1: but it's a very like As much as Bridgeton pays

551
00:24:28,674 --> 00:24:31,434
Speaker 1: fast and loose with like the lessons of the time,

552
00:24:31,834 --> 00:24:34,114
Speaker 1: it's still this never reminded that as a single woman,

553
00:24:34,154 --> 00:24:37,154
Speaker 1: she's ultimately a prisoner. She can't make her own decisions,

554
00:24:37,234 --> 00:24:38,914
Speaker 1: she's got no money. Even though she comes from a

555
00:24:38,954 --> 00:24:41,513
Speaker 1: rich family, she is not allowed to leave the home

556
00:24:41,554 --> 00:24:44,434
Speaker 1: without being escorted by someone and essentially having her like

557
00:24:44,514 --> 00:24:48,114
Speaker 1: outside trips pre approved by her family. And so even

558
00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:50,314
Speaker 1: though she wants this big life and she thought choosing

559
00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:52,794
Speaker 1: independence would lead to a big life, it's actually led

560
00:24:52,794 --> 00:24:55,033
Speaker 1: to a very small life, which I think a lot

561
00:24:55,034 --> 00:24:57,794
Speaker 1: of single people can also relate to. Sometimes being single

562
00:24:57,834 --> 00:25:00,594
Speaker 1: makes your life smaller, like it shouldn't, but it does sometimes.

563
00:25:00,794 --> 00:25:02,033
Speaker 2: I mean, look at my apartment.

564
00:25:02,314 --> 00:25:08,314
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, we are ellow Bridgington right now.

565
00:25:08,394 --> 00:25:09,314
Speaker 2: That's what we chose.

566
00:25:09,754 --> 00:25:14,954
Speaker 1: We chose it from us. I always get mad, you

567
00:25:14,954 --> 00:25:18,314
Speaker 1: know what. Who had the best situation was Penelope's offer

568
00:25:18,314 --> 00:25:21,234
Speaker 1: of marriage last season from the rich old dude. Remember

569
00:25:21,234 --> 00:25:22,954
Speaker 1: he was like, I just want a wife to keep

570
00:25:22,954 --> 00:25:25,354
Speaker 1: my house and I'll be overseas most of the year.

571
00:25:26,234 --> 00:25:28,474
Speaker 1: And then you can redecorate it. You can have all

572
00:25:28,474 --> 00:25:30,634
Speaker 1: my money, and I are like, quite hard. He's also like,

573
00:25:30,674 --> 00:25:33,394
Speaker 1: I'll never bother you, and I literally this is how

574
00:25:33,434 --> 00:25:35,154
Speaker 1: I knew I was maybe like too single for my

575
00:25:35,194 --> 00:25:38,714
Speaker 1: own good. I literally threw myself at the TV. I'm like, girls, say, yes,

576
00:25:39,354 --> 00:25:42,114
Speaker 1: that's the best awesome that anyone any of the women

577
00:25:42,114 --> 00:25:44,954
Speaker 1: of Bridgington. That's the best offer anyone's being given. Take

578
00:25:44,994 --> 00:25:47,994
Speaker 1: my money, take my house. I won't bother you. And

579
00:25:47,994 --> 00:25:50,034
Speaker 1: once she's a married woman, then she has more freedom.

580
00:25:50,234 --> 00:25:52,994
Speaker 2: Who are those men these days? I just want your

581
00:25:52,994 --> 00:25:53,354
Speaker 2: money on.

582
00:25:53,394 --> 00:25:55,674
Speaker 1: Your house and you for you to leave me alone.

583
00:25:56,914 --> 00:25:59,114
Speaker 1: So yeah, we see Eloise and kind of that. I'm

584
00:25:59,154 --> 00:26:00,834
Speaker 1: interested to see how to kind of the rest of this

585
00:26:00,874 --> 00:26:03,234
Speaker 1: season unfolds for her because she's been put in an

586
00:26:03,234 --> 00:26:06,714
Speaker 1: interesting predicament. And then we also have Francesca and John

587
00:26:06,754 --> 00:26:10,674
Speaker 1: returned as newlyweds and having a few marital issues.

588
00:26:10,794 --> 00:26:14,034
Speaker 2: Francesca hasn't pinnacled yet, yes, and she's on the search

589
00:26:14,074 --> 00:26:14,754
Speaker 2: for her pinnacle.

590
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,834
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've never said the word pinnacle that much as

591
00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:19,434
Speaker 1: I have said discussing this show.

592
00:26:19,594 --> 00:26:20,594
Speaker 2: It's a nice word.

593
00:26:20,834 --> 00:26:21,994
Speaker 1: Are you going to start using it. Yeah.

594
00:26:22,034 --> 00:26:24,874
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'll never talk about as much

595
00:26:24,914 --> 00:26:25,514
Speaker 2: as she does.

596
00:26:25,634 --> 00:26:29,154
Speaker 1: The crazy yeah, the crazy fluesy yeah yeah, for her

597
00:26:29,154 --> 00:26:31,874
Speaker 1: having sex with her husband. Okay, here's my thoughts on this.

598
00:26:32,074 --> 00:26:34,754
Speaker 1: I love Violet Bridgeton. That woman has done the most.

599
00:26:35,314 --> 00:26:37,594
Speaker 1: She's birthed all those children. Now she has to marry

600
00:26:37,634 --> 00:26:40,274
Speaker 1: them off, run a house. Look hot, there's a lot

601
00:26:40,314 --> 00:26:42,994
Speaker 1: going on. But can I just say to miss Bridgeton,

602
00:26:43,474 --> 00:26:46,914
Speaker 1: this is now the second time that woman has dropped

603
00:26:46,954 --> 00:26:50,274
Speaker 1: the ball on giving her daughter's sex education. Come on,

604
00:26:50,634 --> 00:26:54,354
Speaker 1: especially when she has like, obviously society does it, but

605
00:26:54,994 --> 00:26:57,434
Speaker 1: her whole goal in life is to get them married

606
00:26:57,634 --> 00:26:59,273
Speaker 1: and then to get them to have sex with their

607
00:26:59,354 --> 00:27:02,234
Speaker 1: husband so they can have children. She has raised them

608
00:27:02,234 --> 00:27:06,354
Speaker 1: to do it. It's her singular focus. And then she drops

609
00:27:06,394 --> 00:27:09,474
Speaker 1: the ball on actually telling them what sex is. And

610
00:27:09,594 --> 00:27:12,593
Speaker 1: both of her married daughters so far thus far her

611
00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:13,954
Speaker 1: freaked the fuck out because of it.

612
00:27:14,154 --> 00:27:16,194
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand her. What's the deal.

613
00:27:16,594 --> 00:27:20,074
Speaker 1: And even when Francesca shyest of all her daughters after

614
00:27:20,114 --> 00:27:21,314
Speaker 1: the conference, it's like she like.

615
00:27:21,314 --> 00:27:22,754
Speaker 2: Gets off on them being confused.

616
00:27:22,954 --> 00:27:26,194
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, oh, your wedding night, good luck, Like

617
00:27:26,514 --> 00:27:29,114
Speaker 1: I know, that sex wasn't overly discussed in this era.

618
00:27:29,354 --> 00:27:30,914
Speaker 2: Definitely had to end up asking a maid.

619
00:27:31,434 --> 00:27:33,634
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when her mama makes like, I don't

620
00:27:33,634 --> 00:27:37,114
Speaker 1: get paid enough to be sex educating you, when your

621
00:27:37,114 --> 00:27:39,793
Speaker 1: mother again, it's her only job, one job. And so

622
00:27:39,954 --> 00:27:42,513
Speaker 1: after that whole Daphne coming angrily to her mother and

623
00:27:42,554 --> 00:27:44,754
Speaker 1: being sob sensing why didn't you tell me? Why didn't

624
00:27:44,794 --> 00:27:46,834
Speaker 1: you prepare me? I went into this not knowing what

625
00:27:46,914 --> 00:27:49,234
Speaker 1: to do, and now it's ruining my marriage, the one

626
00:27:49,274 --> 00:27:51,194
Speaker 1: thing you care about. And then you think, well, that

627
00:27:51,274 --> 00:27:54,194
Speaker 1: woman's not gonna make that mistake again. Next minute, Francesca's

628
00:27:54,234 --> 00:27:56,793
Speaker 1: just like, what is sex? What is orgasm? So I

629
00:27:56,874 --> 00:27:58,354
Speaker 1: actually when they came then.

630
00:27:58,394 --> 00:28:00,634
Speaker 2: Pilott goes, I can't believe Daphanie didn't tell you.

631
00:28:01,314 --> 00:28:03,954
Speaker 1: It's like, girl, don't outsource your parenting. I know you've

632
00:28:03,954 --> 00:28:06,314
Speaker 1: got seven children, but you only have to have one

633
00:28:06,394 --> 00:28:09,834
Speaker 1: sex talkie exactly. You marry them off one by one,

634
00:28:09,874 --> 00:28:12,274
Speaker 1: and the boys are already the boys have already sexed

635
00:28:12,274 --> 00:28:15,073
Speaker 1: the town. They know what they're doing, and so this

636
00:28:15,114 --> 00:28:16,954
Speaker 1: is only the second conversation you've had to have. So

637
00:28:16,994 --> 00:28:19,073
Speaker 1: when they kept saying pinnacle over and over again, I

638
00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:22,114
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I also have never heard that described

639
00:28:22,114 --> 00:28:22,554
Speaker 1: in this room.

640
00:28:22,714 --> 00:28:24,754
Speaker 2: So you're gonna say, I also have never had one.

641
00:28:26,514 --> 00:28:29,154
Speaker 1: That I could be violent in this situation. Tell me

642
00:28:29,194 --> 00:28:31,994
Speaker 1: what it is? What did she say? And don't use

643
00:28:32,034 --> 00:28:33,074
Speaker 1: youph since.

644
00:28:34,474 --> 00:28:35,034
Speaker 2: Exactly why.

645
00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:36,714
Speaker 1: I have read a lot of books from this time

646
00:28:36,754 --> 00:28:38,194
Speaker 1: and watch a lot of movies, and I've never heard

647
00:28:38,194 --> 00:28:41,914
Speaker 1: the word pinnacle be used for orgasm, and so I thought, oh,

648
00:28:42,034 --> 00:28:44,514
Speaker 1: is that a term that was used then? And I

649
00:28:44,594 --> 00:28:47,394
Speaker 1: just haven't realized it. So I researched the word pinnacle

650
00:28:47,594 --> 00:28:50,674
Speaker 1: in the regency Sex era and it was not used.

651
00:28:50,874 --> 00:28:54,234
Speaker 1: It has been invented for Bridgington. Interesting, and then I

652
00:28:54,354 --> 00:28:58,674
Speaker 1: went looking of use, what did they use? Because now

653
00:28:58,714 --> 00:29:02,914
Speaker 1: I'm down a rat hole deep in So pinnacle has

654
00:29:02,954 --> 00:29:04,954
Speaker 1: only been used for Bridgington, and I don't know what

655
00:29:04,994 --> 00:29:09,554
Speaker 1: the writer's room kind of went through for this, Yeah,

656
00:29:09,594 --> 00:29:11,394
Speaker 1: of how they decided that was the word that we're

657
00:29:11,434 --> 00:29:13,474
Speaker 1: going to use. But it does work, like the pinnacle

658
00:29:13,474 --> 00:29:15,754
Speaker 1: of pleasure is a thing that's been like a widely

659
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,954
Speaker 1: accepted term. So then I was like, okay, is like

660
00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:19,794
Speaker 1: accidentally time travel? I need to be prepared.

661
00:29:19,994 --> 00:29:22,834
Speaker 2: I was googling time travel and then I need to

662
00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:23,794
Speaker 2: talk about allgathers.

663
00:29:23,874 --> 00:29:26,834
Speaker 1: Yes, Can I just say it's good to be prepared.

664
00:29:27,554 --> 00:29:31,594
Speaker 1: So I googled actual nineteenth century sex terms.

665
00:29:31,754 --> 00:29:34,074
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and glad you did this at work.

666
00:29:34,234 --> 00:29:35,954
Speaker 1: I did it on my work computer and on the

667
00:29:35,954 --> 00:29:36,954
Speaker 1: Wi Fi, and we've.

668
00:29:36,754 --> 00:29:40,594
Speaker 2: Been having internet issues. So I t I has been

669
00:29:40,634 --> 00:29:43,914
Speaker 2: able to find out which specific computer has issues, so

670
00:29:43,954 --> 00:29:46,634
Speaker 2: he'll be able to tell who searching.

671
00:29:46,794 --> 00:29:49,074
Speaker 1: What Can I tell you something even worse than that?

672
00:29:49,474 --> 00:29:50,914
Speaker 1: Is that? And maybe you can come out to my

673
00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:52,554
Speaker 1: desk afterwards and help with this because I can't figure

674
00:29:52,554 --> 00:29:54,794
Speaker 1: it out. My laptop at work is somehow connected to

675
00:29:54,874 --> 00:29:57,274
Speaker 1: two big screens on either side of me, and I

676
00:29:57,314 --> 00:29:59,754
Speaker 1: don't know how to disconnect them. So anytime I work

677
00:29:59,754 --> 00:30:01,874
Speaker 1: on my computer, everything that comes off on my screen

678
00:30:01,994 --> 00:30:04,674
Speaker 1: is coming up on these two big screens next to

679
00:30:04,714 --> 00:30:07,754
Speaker 1: my desktop, and a weird screen. Next time that it's

680
00:30:07,794 --> 00:30:08,354
Speaker 1: like facing the.

681
00:30:08,394 --> 00:30:09,114
Speaker 2: Second desk top.

682
00:30:09,274 --> 00:30:10,154
Speaker 1: Yeah why why?

683
00:30:10,354 --> 00:30:11,354
Speaker 2: Because you've connected it.

684
00:30:11,674 --> 00:30:12,834
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. Well.

685
00:30:12,834 --> 00:30:14,514
Speaker 2: When you put your laptop on your desk and you

686
00:30:14,554 --> 00:30:17,354
Speaker 2: like plug in the charger that connects to the screen.

687
00:30:17,274 --> 00:30:19,754
Speaker 1: I can't disconnect it. So I tried to unscrew it

688
00:30:19,754 --> 00:30:23,754
Speaker 1: the other day, coming down. So anyway, that's a tech

689
00:30:23,794 --> 00:30:26,314
Speaker 1: issue for anyone from its currently listening to this podcast,

690
00:30:26,354 --> 00:30:28,314
Speaker 1: it could come over to my desk and help me.

691
00:30:28,354 --> 00:30:32,114
Speaker 1: So anyway, nineteenth century for sex terms, the whole team

692
00:30:32,154 --> 00:30:33,994
Speaker 1: could see me googling it. That's fine because we've got

693
00:30:33,994 --> 00:30:37,474
Speaker 1: no secrets. So some recognized terms for sex in the

694
00:30:37,554 --> 00:30:43,074
Speaker 1: nineteenth century. Melodious moments, very cute. This one I think

695
00:30:43,114 --> 00:30:47,434
Speaker 1: best describes it. Amorous congress. Why is the two words

696
00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:50,874
Speaker 1: because it's a big toil emily amorous congress. Yeap, so

697
00:30:50,914 --> 00:30:52,594
Speaker 1: you said your friend, Hey, so I know you like

698
00:30:52,674 --> 00:30:59,354
Speaker 1: this guy, but when you had amorous congress, how was it?

699
00:30:59,514 --> 00:31:02,234
Speaker 2: That's not the weirdest We go home for some amorous congress.

700
00:31:02,274 --> 00:31:05,834
Speaker 1: Please try that. Okay, next time you're having some sexy talk.

701
00:31:05,874 --> 00:31:07,634
Speaker 1: This one I've heard before. This one's in a few

702
00:31:07,674 --> 00:31:09,034
Speaker 1: books I read before. So I was like, okay, I'm

703
00:31:09,074 --> 00:31:11,514
Speaker 1: in familiar ground. Taking a turn in the.

704
00:31:11,434 --> 00:31:13,834
Speaker 2: Park, No way, is that what sex means?

705
00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:15,394
Speaker 1: Yeah, taking a turn in the park.

706
00:31:15,434 --> 00:31:17,314
Speaker 2: I've read that term, and I had no idea that

707
00:31:17,954 --> 00:31:19,954
Speaker 2: you're in a park and you're walking and then you

708
00:31:19,994 --> 00:31:22,034
Speaker 2: realize you have to go back home, so you turn around.

709
00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:24,314
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so I do think you can also take

710
00:31:24,354 --> 00:31:27,594
Speaker 1: a walk. I think when they say like a little

711
00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:29,674
Speaker 1: women or Anna green Gables and stuff, taking a turn

712
00:31:29,714 --> 00:31:31,434
Speaker 1: about the room or taking a turn in the park

713
00:31:31,714 --> 00:31:33,914
Speaker 1: can mean that. But when you're with your lover in

714
00:31:33,954 --> 00:31:36,114
Speaker 1: a bedroom, taking a term at the park means sex.

715
00:31:36,314 --> 00:31:37,914
Speaker 1: And this is my favorite one, and I don't know

716
00:31:37,914 --> 00:31:40,834
Speaker 1: what this means. Maybe you can help me. Another word

717
00:31:40,874 --> 00:31:44,394
Speaker 1: for sex in nineteenth century dating terms, according to the Internet,

718
00:31:44,874 --> 00:31:49,034
Speaker 1: which I did try to fact check the sauce from AI.

719
00:31:49,954 --> 00:31:52,434
Speaker 1: No I went through documents, but I'm just saying I

720
00:31:52,474 --> 00:31:54,834
Speaker 1: wasn't there, so I can't sack check it. Another word

721
00:31:54,874 --> 00:32:04,074
Speaker 1: for sex is making feet for children's stockings. Fuck. I

722
00:32:04,074 --> 00:32:06,154
Speaker 1: actualed it on three different websites because I was like,

723
00:32:06,354 --> 00:32:08,994
Speaker 1: surely not again. Whoever was looking at my all my

724
00:32:09,034 --> 00:32:10,714
Speaker 1: screens was probably like, what is she looking at?

725
00:32:10,794 --> 00:32:12,394
Speaker 2: Making feet? That makes sense?

726
00:32:12,434 --> 00:32:13,954
Speaker 1: Making feet for children that means.

727
00:32:13,834 --> 00:32:16,714
Speaker 2: You can only have sex to have children.

728
00:32:16,354 --> 00:32:17,994
Speaker 1: Which is what the women at this time got told

729
00:32:18,154 --> 00:32:21,154
Speaker 1: was the thing. Yeah, so it kind of it actually

730
00:32:21,154 --> 00:32:23,314
Speaker 1: makes more sense than the park and the amorous congress.

731
00:32:23,354 --> 00:32:23,714
Speaker 1: I guess.

732
00:32:24,194 --> 00:32:27,594
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could also just say making kids for children's clothes.

733
00:32:27,834 --> 00:32:28,554
Speaker 1: But just the feet.

734
00:32:28,954 --> 00:32:31,714
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're only making one part of their body, just

735
00:32:31,754 --> 00:32:35,034
Speaker 2: making feet for children's stocking. They don't want to wear stockings.

736
00:32:35,074 --> 00:32:37,674
Speaker 1: Well, people worry that they don't have bodies, they only

737
00:32:37,674 --> 00:32:38,274
Speaker 1: have feet.

738
00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:41,234
Speaker 2: Actually, you're gonna make some more.

739
00:32:41,554 --> 00:32:43,434
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean these are the questions of our time.

740
00:32:43,554 --> 00:32:45,834
Speaker 1: So so that's the fact checking of the word pinnacle.

741
00:32:45,834 --> 00:32:47,754
Speaker 1: But I understand Bridgeton sometimes, like stir, I.

742
00:32:47,754 --> 00:32:50,154
Speaker 2: Think Bridgeton found those sources that you found here, like

743
00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:51,794
Speaker 2: absolutely not with any of these.

744
00:32:51,994 --> 00:32:53,754
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, maybe would just make up our own words.

745
00:32:53,834 --> 00:32:55,234
Speaker 2: Yeah, pinnacle, it.

746
00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,794
Speaker 1: Kind of works. I actually love this storyline for Francesca

747
00:32:57,874 --> 00:33:00,594
Speaker 1: because like she and John fell in love because they

748
00:33:00,834 --> 00:33:03,994
Speaker 1: wanted to live a similar life and they saw like

749
00:33:04,074 --> 00:33:06,234
Speaker 1: comfort in each other. They saw safety away from the

750
00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:08,794
Speaker 1: marriage mark because they're both so shy, and so it

751
00:33:08,874 --> 00:33:11,194
Speaker 1: was kind of like they're retreated together and they do

752
00:33:11,394 --> 00:33:14,434
Speaker 1: like each other, but they just can't have sex. Yeah,

753
00:33:14,474 --> 00:33:16,274
Speaker 1: well they obviously they can't have sex. But she's not

754
00:33:16,354 --> 00:33:17,354
Speaker 1: orgasming or pinnacling.

755
00:33:17,554 --> 00:33:21,434
Speaker 2: She's not orgasming or pinnacling. And I think this will

756
00:33:21,474 --> 00:33:25,114
Speaker 2: be a bigger issue later on in the season, but

757
00:33:25,274 --> 00:33:28,634
Speaker 2: right now it feels like he seems okay with it,

758
00:33:28,754 --> 00:33:32,314
Speaker 2: and like he wants to keep trying, and he's getting

759
00:33:32,354 --> 00:33:35,074
Speaker 2: more disappointed if she feels like she needs to fake it. Yeah,

760
00:33:35,074 --> 00:33:37,714
Speaker 2: but at the same time, she's getting so frustrated about it.

761
00:33:37,794 --> 00:33:39,874
Speaker 2: And I feel like this is the one storyline that

762
00:33:39,954 --> 00:33:44,154
Speaker 2: like every woman has experienced, Like it's a constant like

763
00:33:44,474 --> 00:33:48,914
Speaker 2: let me just fake it happening, and it's weird.

764
00:33:49,154 --> 00:33:51,274
Speaker 1: I do love the conversation they have about it, because

765
00:33:51,674 --> 00:33:53,714
Speaker 1: I do think for most women also, that's not how

766
00:33:53,754 --> 00:33:55,834
Speaker 1: they outcome of that goes. But he is just such

767
00:33:55,874 --> 00:33:59,154
Speaker 1: a lovely, kind of understanding character obviously written by a woman,

768
00:33:59,514 --> 00:34:01,834
Speaker 1: that it's kind of almost like a fantasy of if

769
00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:03,434
Speaker 1: you were a woman going through that, what you would

770
00:34:03,514 --> 00:34:04,874
Speaker 1: like your husband or partner to say.

771
00:34:05,034 --> 00:34:07,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm sure men do, but like and especially

772
00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:10,634
Speaker 2: in that time, like it's such an awkward scene and

773
00:34:10,674 --> 00:34:13,274
Speaker 2: they're both already awkward people, and I think they handle

774
00:34:13,393 --> 00:34:16,393
Speaker 2: that really well. I think then now, also, if you

775
00:34:16,474 --> 00:34:18,114
Speaker 2: have read the books and you know what happens to

776
00:34:18,154 --> 00:34:22,794
Speaker 2: these characters, they're really building up their relationships because it's.

777
00:34:22,634 --> 00:34:24,674
Speaker 1: About to blow up. Yeah, oh good, you do know

778
00:34:24,674 --> 00:34:26,274
Speaker 1: what happens. And I'm like, imagine want to break the

779
00:34:26,274 --> 00:34:26,674
Speaker 1: stort girl?

780
00:34:26,874 --> 00:34:28,834
Speaker 2: Do you know what happens? Thanks to my job?

781
00:34:29,194 --> 00:34:32,474
Speaker 1: But sorry, remember that's all right. But also with the

782
00:34:32,674 --> 00:34:35,194
Speaker 1: arrival of John's cousin at the end of the scenes

783
00:34:35,234 --> 00:34:38,954
Speaker 1: with Michayla and with the books is a man, yes, Michael,

784
00:34:39,274 --> 00:34:43,754
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, yeah, I'm assuming yes, and kind of them

785
00:34:43,794 --> 00:34:45,274
Speaker 1: sort of setting the scene for her to have a

786
00:34:45,314 --> 00:34:47,993
Speaker 1: queer storyline, which I really love and I think it's

787
00:34:48,034 --> 00:34:50,714
Speaker 1: been done really well. And also maybe explaining of the

788
00:34:50,794 --> 00:34:53,274
Speaker 1: idea that she loves John but she's not sexually attracted

789
00:34:53,314 --> 00:34:57,274
Speaker 1: to him because she's sexually attracted to Mikayla. Wow. Yeah,

790
00:34:57,314 --> 00:35:00,274
Speaker 1: interesting John. Yeah, he's really sweet and we saw in

791
00:35:00,274 --> 00:35:02,033
Speaker 1: bed that he's super hot, so he's not that going

792
00:35:02,074 --> 00:35:02,354
Speaker 1: for it.

793
00:35:02,394 --> 00:35:05,674
Speaker 2: Everyone has a sex path everything. Can we talk about.

794
00:35:05,474 --> 00:35:08,674
Speaker 1: Violet's sexteen, Yes, we can. What are your notes on that?

795
00:35:09,154 --> 00:35:14,314
Speaker 2: Firstly, she's allowed to wear other colors? Right, she works

796
00:35:14,314 --> 00:35:15,074
Speaker 2: in blue.

797
00:35:15,914 --> 00:35:17,714
Speaker 1: That's her color. Pal. What's interesting is it.

798
00:35:17,954 --> 00:35:20,474
Speaker 2: Each family has a color because they're all in blue

799
00:35:20,554 --> 00:35:21,073
Speaker 2: all the time.

800
00:35:21,274 --> 00:35:23,073
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, each family does have it of a color.

801
00:35:23,434 --> 00:35:26,274
Speaker 1: It's not a spoken society rule, but like the featheringtons

802
00:35:26,354 --> 00:35:28,194
Speaker 1: have like the orange and stuff and then like the

803
00:35:28,234 --> 00:35:30,754
Speaker 1: Bridgingstons have the blue and it kind of goes to

804
00:35:30,794 --> 00:35:33,034
Speaker 1: show more like the style of their family. The costume

805
00:35:33,074 --> 00:35:35,394
Speaker 1: designers were saying like, oh, this season is amazing because

806
00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:37,674
Speaker 1: every other season of Bridgington is in spring and summer

807
00:35:37,714 --> 00:35:40,114
Speaker 1: and this one is an autumn and so the tones

808
00:35:40,114 --> 00:35:42,394
Speaker 1: are warmer. And I was like, it's not really just blue,

809
00:35:42,914 --> 00:35:44,634
Speaker 1: how it was every other seat it's warm blues.

810
00:35:44,874 --> 00:35:48,554
Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, she loves blue a lot. But the sexy

811
00:35:48,594 --> 00:35:50,754
Speaker 2: corset she wears, oh my god, that was I don't

812
00:35:50,794 --> 00:35:52,474
Speaker 2: even own something that's sexy.

813
00:35:52,154 --> 00:35:54,594
Speaker 1: Because it's not the traditional where it's a corset and

814
00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:58,754
Speaker 1: like underwear. It was like a playsuit, which traditionally as

815
00:35:58,754 --> 00:36:02,513
Speaker 1: a woman with anyone who's got any hard to pull

816
00:36:02,554 --> 00:36:05,114
Speaker 1: off a playsuit in a sexy way. And she did it,

817
00:36:05,194 --> 00:36:07,074
Speaker 1: and she looks and that's why the woman was pregnant

818
00:36:07,114 --> 00:36:07,634
Speaker 1: seven times.

819
00:36:07,714 --> 00:36:13,114
Speaker 2: That's so true. She looked so so good, and Marcus Anderson,

820
00:36:13,314 --> 00:36:18,794
Speaker 2: Lady Danburry's brother, so hot. I shipped them both so hard.

821
00:36:18,714 --> 00:36:19,634
Speaker 1: I know, and I loved her.

822
00:36:19,874 --> 00:36:21,953
Speaker 2: And she's allowed because Lady Danburry did it with her dad.

823
00:36:22,394 --> 00:36:25,154
Speaker 1: Yeah, so true, So you know what, but Also it's

824
00:36:25,194 --> 00:36:27,154
Speaker 1: that whole thing of like that reminder again of like

825
00:36:27,194 --> 00:36:29,794
Speaker 1: the time period we're in. She's kind of well, Anthony's

826
00:36:29,794 --> 00:36:31,834
Speaker 1: the head of the house and then Benedict in her place,

827
00:36:31,874 --> 00:36:33,634
Speaker 1: and then she's kind of down the food chain, but

828
00:36:33,794 --> 00:36:35,873
Speaker 1: in the walls of the home, she feels like the

829
00:36:35,874 --> 00:36:37,634
Speaker 1: head of the house. And she still has to sneak

830
00:36:37,674 --> 00:36:41,114
Speaker 1: her sex toy lover in with the help of the

831
00:36:41,114 --> 00:36:45,033
Speaker 1: house tea. Yeah, we have tea in a different place. Yes.

832
00:36:45,594 --> 00:36:49,154
Speaker 1: Oh again, things we should start using, taking a turn

833
00:36:49,194 --> 00:36:52,314
Speaker 1: about the room, having the tears me for sex. And

834
00:36:52,354 --> 00:36:55,114
Speaker 1: also when they call Benedict de rake. Oh, I love

835
00:36:55,194 --> 00:36:58,194
Speaker 1: that because we need to bring back him the word rake.

836
00:36:58,274 --> 00:36:59,594
Speaker 2: He is a rake. I like that.

837
00:36:59,674 --> 00:37:00,074
Speaker 1: I like that.

838
00:37:00,194 --> 00:37:02,393
Speaker 2: Also how they both had affairs at the same time

839
00:37:02,434 --> 00:37:12,754
Speaker 2: in the same house. Yeah, I like that. One thing

840
00:37:12,834 --> 00:37:18,314
Speaker 2: that I noticed so drastically in this season was the

841
00:37:18,434 --> 00:37:22,513
Speaker 2: actress Adjuaano, who plays Lady Danbury. Do you remember when

842
00:37:22,554 --> 00:37:27,314
Speaker 2: she did that interview about how badly they would light

843
00:37:27,394 --> 00:37:30,514
Speaker 2: her in Bridgeton and how she was so this She

844
00:37:30,994 --> 00:37:33,034
Speaker 2: did this interview where she was like she always talked

845
00:37:33,034 --> 00:37:35,554
Speaker 2: about how she was so whitewashed, and you would even

846
00:37:35,594 --> 00:37:37,553
Speaker 2: see like the lighting was so off on her because

847
00:37:37,594 --> 00:37:39,994
Speaker 2: I used the same lighting for everyone else. Oh it

848
00:37:40,074 --> 00:37:41,034
Speaker 2: looked like blonde.

849
00:37:41,274 --> 00:37:41,953
Speaker 1: Oh.

850
00:37:41,994 --> 00:37:43,994
Speaker 2: And then she was like, how is it twenty twenty

851
00:37:43,994 --> 00:37:46,154
Speaker 2: four and we still can't light black women.

852
00:37:46,314 --> 00:37:48,393
Speaker 1: That is a conversation I think is happening a lot

853
00:37:48,434 --> 00:37:50,674
Speaker 1: in film and TV industry, and like it keeps happening,

854
00:37:50,714 --> 00:37:52,674
Speaker 1: but it's not getting any better, like in terms of

855
00:37:52,714 --> 00:37:55,553
Speaker 1: having like properly trained makeup and hair artists to work

856
00:37:55,594 --> 00:37:58,274
Speaker 1: with different skin tones or textured hair. It comes a

857
00:37:58,314 --> 00:38:01,354
Speaker 1: lot in magazine cover shoots where women of color aren't

858
00:38:01,354 --> 00:38:04,034
Speaker 1: shot properly because the photographers don't know how to adjust

859
00:38:04,034 --> 00:38:04,434
Speaker 1: the lighting.

860
00:38:04,514 --> 00:38:06,274
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we talked about it recently when we did

861
00:38:06,274 --> 00:38:08,394
Speaker 2: our high school musical Bridley on His View, and Manique

862
00:38:08,434 --> 00:38:10,714
Speaker 2: had said that she had to wear headbands all the

863
00:38:10,754 --> 00:38:14,073
Speaker 2: time because they didn't know how to like style black hair.

864
00:38:14,354 --> 00:38:16,754
Speaker 2: So I was twenty years ago, twenty years ago, and

865
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:20,114
Speaker 2: then Adua so bravely talking about a show that she's

866
00:38:20,154 --> 00:38:23,234
Speaker 2: still very much about how they weren't lighting her properly.

867
00:38:23,634 --> 00:38:26,274
Speaker 2: And I noticed in this season they did a much

868
00:38:26,594 --> 00:38:27,433
Speaker 2: much better job.

869
00:38:27,554 --> 00:38:29,954
Speaker 1: Good it. You have just talked publicly about it to

870
00:38:29,954 --> 00:38:31,674
Speaker 1: get any kind of momentum behind the scene.

871
00:38:31,754 --> 00:38:34,154
Speaker 2: I remember the first scene with Lady Danburry with the

872
00:38:34,234 --> 00:38:36,594
Speaker 2: Queen in this season, and I was like, they listened,

873
00:38:36,754 --> 00:38:39,393
Speaker 2: they did, they did, and you know what, good, good.

874
00:38:39,634 --> 00:38:41,594
Speaker 1: That's all we expect. Well your men again. They're putting

875
00:38:41,834 --> 00:38:44,954
Speaker 1: thousands of hours into sowing like embroidery in sequins on

876
00:38:44,954 --> 00:38:46,234
Speaker 1: like the back of a dress that you'll see in

877
00:38:46,274 --> 00:38:48,074
Speaker 1: one scene. It's like, we can do the lighting properly.

878
00:38:48,114 --> 00:38:49,274
Speaker 2: We can do the lighting properly.

879
00:38:49,514 --> 00:38:52,634
Speaker 1: Okay. So circling back around to our big love story

880
00:38:52,634 --> 00:38:55,953
Speaker 1: of this season, Sophie has had too. Her stepmother found

881
00:38:55,994 --> 00:38:58,794
Speaker 1: out that she attended the ball. She is shunned from

882
00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:02,034
Speaker 1: the house and she goes to find work elsewhere, only

883
00:39:02,074 --> 00:39:05,794
Speaker 1: to once again meet Benedict Bridgerton, who ends up gallantly

884
00:39:05,954 --> 00:39:10,234
Speaker 1: saving her from an awful, awful man yeah and taking

885
00:39:10,274 --> 00:39:12,514
Speaker 1: her to his cottage slash huge mansion.

886
00:39:12,594 --> 00:39:14,354
Speaker 2: I hate that man with all my mic.

887
00:39:14,354 --> 00:39:16,314
Speaker 1: Oh the one he got punched out, yeah, fair enough,

888
00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:18,993
Speaker 1: deserved deserve And look, I know that was a whole

889
00:39:19,034 --> 00:39:21,993
Speaker 1: plot device to like make us like Benedict and kind

890
00:39:21,994 --> 00:39:23,874
Speaker 1: of but when he was kind of explained to Sophie,

891
00:39:23,874 --> 00:39:25,433
Speaker 1: like you can come with me, I was raised in

892
00:39:25,474 --> 00:39:27,433
Speaker 1: a home to respect maids, And I was like, well,

893
00:39:27,474 --> 00:39:29,794
Speaker 1: actually it does track with his character, Like I never

894
00:39:29,834 --> 00:39:30,994
Speaker 1: thought he was. I just thought he was a bit

895
00:39:31,034 --> 00:39:33,474
Speaker 1: off with the fairies and like not thinking about the

896
00:39:33,474 --> 00:39:35,994
Speaker 1: world around him. But it does track with how the

897
00:39:36,034 --> 00:39:38,274
Speaker 1: British and kids act and how they treat their own

898
00:39:38,314 --> 00:39:41,674
Speaker 1: like staff in the house and how lady like Bridgitton behaves.

899
00:39:41,914 --> 00:39:43,474
Speaker 1: That that would be his reaction.

900
00:39:43,674 --> 00:39:46,554
Speaker 2: So it felt real, and you can see the hesitation

901
00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:48,754
Speaker 2: with Sophie because firstly, she knows that they've had this

902
00:39:48,874 --> 00:39:52,314
Speaker 2: massive conversation at the Masquerade ball, but also like she's

903
00:39:52,394 --> 00:39:56,993
Speaker 2: never ever experienced what someone of that level, how they

904
00:39:57,034 --> 00:39:59,794
Speaker 2: treat someone of her level, and the kind yeah exactly,

905
00:39:59,834 --> 00:40:02,034
Speaker 2: so like even the whole sense of like I've never

906
00:40:02,074 --> 00:40:05,154
Speaker 2: experienced that someone must not exist, And yeah, she had nowhere.

907
00:40:04,914 --> 00:40:06,834
Speaker 1: Else to go exactly, and so yeah, she was just

908
00:40:06,874 --> 00:40:09,354
Speaker 1: kind of forced into that situation. But also she was

909
00:40:09,594 --> 00:40:13,074
Speaker 1: raised essentially as a lady longer than she was raised

910
00:40:13,074 --> 00:40:16,634
Speaker 1: as a maid, and so exactly, so like that, and

911
00:40:16,634 --> 00:40:18,714
Speaker 1: that is again why she's like so well spoken and

912
00:40:18,754 --> 00:40:21,634
Speaker 1: so educated, is that she was being raised as an

913
00:40:21,674 --> 00:40:25,154
Speaker 1: earl's daughter essentially so part of her also knows the

914
00:40:25,154 --> 00:40:28,194
Speaker 1: fear of like being an unchaperoned woman, even though now

915
00:40:28,274 --> 00:40:30,234
Speaker 1: that she's a maid that doesn't matter as much being

916
00:40:30,234 --> 00:40:33,074
Speaker 1: an unchaperoned woman with a man, and like how dangerous

917
00:40:33,114 --> 00:40:35,634
Speaker 1: that is to her reputation. A lot of layers happening

918
00:40:35,714 --> 00:40:37,834
Speaker 1: in that sex, so much, the layers. And so then

919
00:40:37,874 --> 00:40:41,314
Speaker 1: they get back to the cottage, My cottage, my cottage,

920
00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:43,714
Speaker 1: my cottage. Are you going to do the heated rivalry

921
00:40:43,794 --> 00:40:48,754
Speaker 1: voice my cottage? I can't come to the cottage. I'm

922
00:40:48,754 --> 00:40:49,754
Speaker 1: coming to the cottage.

923
00:40:50,554 --> 00:40:53,074
Speaker 2: Wait, how did he say it? I'm coming to the cottage.

924
00:40:53,234 --> 00:40:54,994
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I thought when I saw the cottage,

925
00:40:54,994 --> 00:40:57,114
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, he the rivalry Bridgeton.

926
00:40:56,754 --> 00:40:59,553
Speaker 2: Spin off exactly, way you should get a spill cottage. Yeah,

927
00:40:59,954 --> 00:41:01,714
Speaker 2: it's just like a nice word for a mansion.

928
00:41:01,874 --> 00:41:02,554
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

929
00:41:02,634 --> 00:41:03,754
Speaker 2: A cottage is never a cottage.

930
00:41:03,754 --> 00:41:04,873
Speaker 1: I mean we should get one of those. I mean,

931
00:41:04,874 --> 00:41:10,154
Speaker 1: I'm still working getting us new headphones and that, and

932
00:41:10,234 --> 00:41:12,074
Speaker 1: so it's all really sweet. So if he goes to

933
00:41:12,074 --> 00:41:15,834
Speaker 1: her bed and then she hears Benedict Bridgeton screaming in pain.

934
00:41:16,274 --> 00:41:18,634
Speaker 2: Embarrassing, would you think of that?

935
00:41:18,914 --> 00:41:18,954
Speaker 1: You?

936
00:41:19,034 --> 00:41:21,074
Speaker 2: No, No, I've been in a lot of pain, never

937
00:41:21,154 --> 00:41:26,194
Speaker 2: audible though, So you got stabbed having a high temperature feeling.

938
00:41:26,754 --> 00:41:28,714
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a stab, it was a scratch.

939
00:41:28,714 --> 00:41:29,914
Speaker 2: It was a little tiny scrap.

940
00:41:29,994 --> 00:41:31,834
Speaker 1: And also, I know we had to have this moment,

941
00:41:32,274 --> 00:41:34,993
Speaker 1: but he had an infection like an hour later. That's

942
00:41:35,074 --> 00:41:38,073
Speaker 1: just not how But also maybe maybe infections move faster

943
00:41:38,154 --> 00:41:40,354
Speaker 1: back then. Probably, you know, back.

944
00:41:40,194 --> 00:41:42,314
Speaker 2: In the day, back in the day, if.

945
00:41:42,194 --> 00:41:44,234
Speaker 1: You like watch movies like read books from that time,

946
00:41:44,274 --> 00:41:46,393
Speaker 1: they would just bleed you out. They would just cut

947
00:41:46,434 --> 00:41:48,393
Speaker 1: your arms and like get leeches and stuff and be like,

948
00:41:48,554 --> 00:41:50,834
Speaker 1: we'll just bleed them out until all the bad blood's out.

949
00:41:50,834 --> 00:41:52,354
Speaker 1: And would you believe that's not the best thing to

950
00:41:52,354 --> 00:41:53,554
Speaker 1: do when someone's hurt.

951
00:41:54,034 --> 00:41:56,393
Speaker 2: Watching like one of those like King Henry the aides

952
00:41:56,434 --> 00:41:57,714
Speaker 2: and they had to do that for him, And in

953
00:41:57,754 --> 00:41:59,594
Speaker 2: my head, I was like, you know what, not.

954
00:41:59,554 --> 00:42:02,234
Speaker 1: A bad idea. I don't think it's medically recommended.

955
00:42:02,394 --> 00:42:04,194
Speaker 2: Yeah, not now, not now, But like back then, I'm

956
00:42:04,194 --> 00:42:05,314
Speaker 2: like I probably would have done the same thing.

957
00:42:05,354 --> 00:42:06,514
Speaker 1: You'd be like, you know, we'll just let all that

958
00:42:06,514 --> 00:42:09,594
Speaker 1: bad blood out. But thankfully Sophie's a bit smarter toohol,

959
00:42:09,674 --> 00:42:11,514
Speaker 1: and she knows what to do. Yeah, and then.

960
00:42:11,954 --> 00:42:13,194
Speaker 2: Because it wasn't that big of a deal.

961
00:42:15,034 --> 00:42:16,953
Speaker 1: I guess when you're a man who's never felt pain before,

962
00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:18,873
Speaker 1: that's true. I've never done a day's work in your life.

963
00:42:18,874 --> 00:42:21,514
Speaker 2: That just looks like my second day period cramps exactly.

964
00:42:21,874 --> 00:42:24,154
Speaker 1: It's like taking eurofin and move on, sir please.

965
00:42:24,434 --> 00:42:26,834
Speaker 2: And then he like wakes up in the morning perfectly fine.

966
00:42:26,634 --> 00:42:29,714
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, but then he's bed bound for four days

967
00:42:29,794 --> 00:42:34,873
Speaker 1: and they have to But that's so important, that's my dream.

968
00:42:35,514 --> 00:42:37,474
Speaker 1: But then also we need that time for them to

969
00:42:37,594 --> 00:42:40,754
Speaker 1: like properly fall in love and like have that moment

970
00:42:40,834 --> 00:42:42,553
Speaker 1: together of like being in the life.

971
00:42:42,714 --> 00:42:44,634
Speaker 2: Embarrassing was it when he spoke French.

972
00:42:45,154 --> 00:42:47,714
Speaker 1: And she was like, maybe would you say, don't move

973
00:42:47,714 --> 00:42:48,513
Speaker 1: your lips as much?

974
00:42:48,634 --> 00:42:50,994
Speaker 2: Or she was like, it's all in the mouth, in

975
00:42:51,074 --> 00:42:53,433
Speaker 2: the jaw, But that was that's why she held his jaw.

976
00:42:53,594 --> 00:42:55,354
Speaker 1: Oh. But that was also that he would look at

977
00:42:55,394 --> 00:42:57,033
Speaker 1: her lips because that's the only thing he knows about

978
00:42:57,034 --> 00:42:59,274
Speaker 1: the lady in Silver is the lips. And so that

979
00:42:59,354 --> 00:43:01,514
Speaker 1: was when he started having that moment of like is

980
00:43:01,554 --> 00:43:03,234
Speaker 1: it is it not? But because it's a mask, you

981
00:43:03,234 --> 00:43:03,714
Speaker 1: can't tell.

982
00:43:04,394 --> 00:43:05,354
Speaker 2: And he still couldn't tell.

983
00:43:05,514 --> 00:43:07,794
Speaker 1: What did she still He's still not there. What did

984
00:43:07,794 --> 00:43:09,794
Speaker 1: you think of the swimming in the lake scene that

985
00:43:09,914 --> 00:43:13,034
Speaker 1: was kind of an homage to Pride and Predjuice and

986
00:43:13,074 --> 00:43:14,594
Speaker 1: bridget Jones and Mad about the Boys.

987
00:43:14,714 --> 00:43:16,674
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the swimming in the lake scene. I

988
00:43:16,714 --> 00:43:18,474
Speaker 2: wish he was a better swimmer. Got a bit of

989
00:43:18,474 --> 00:43:20,513
Speaker 2: an eck with what do you mean he's really bad

990
00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:22,674
Speaker 2: at freestyle? You know what it looks like?

991
00:43:22,794 --> 00:43:24,593
Speaker 1: I did not you know what.

992
00:43:24,514 --> 00:43:26,754
Speaker 2: It looks like? It looked because his body's too out

993
00:43:26,794 --> 00:43:28,913
Speaker 2: of the water, so it looks like when kids want

994
00:43:28,914 --> 00:43:30,874
Speaker 2: to look like they're swimming, but they're actually just walking

995
00:43:30,914 --> 00:43:33,154
Speaker 2: and they're just doing the first submerge with their arms

996
00:43:33,634 --> 00:43:35,354
Speaker 2: and they're just walking on the bottom of it.

997
00:43:35,634 --> 00:43:38,674
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what he was doing. Maybe he can't swim.

998
00:43:39,194 --> 00:43:41,514
Speaker 2: Oh maybe maybe that's why he was so obsessed with

999
00:43:41,554 --> 00:43:44,634
Speaker 2: asking the other lady if you like swim and where?

1000
00:43:44,834 --> 00:43:46,794
Speaker 1: Because maybe it's like when actors, because when they had

1001
00:43:46,834 --> 00:43:49,474
Speaker 1: their headshots, they have on the back all of their skills,

1002
00:43:49,514 --> 00:43:50,994
Speaker 1: like I can ride a horse, I can play basketball.

1003
00:43:51,034 --> 00:43:53,034
Speaker 1: Maybe he put swimming and so they hired him to

1004
00:43:53,034 --> 00:43:54,554
Speaker 1: be Benedic Bridgeton and then he had to be like

1005
00:43:54,554 --> 00:43:57,754
Speaker 1: on the day, shit, yeah, look at me walk freestyle.

1006
00:43:57,994 --> 00:44:00,874
Speaker 2: No, it was a bad freestyle, and he couldn't go underwater.

1007
00:44:00,954 --> 00:44:02,473
Speaker 2: His head had to be always on top.

1008
00:44:02,594 --> 00:44:05,033
Speaker 1: I think everyone else's takeaway was that scene was very

1009
00:44:05,034 --> 00:44:08,354
Speaker 1: hot because then you see his chest muscles outside, like

1010
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:11,314
Speaker 1: when he comes out, he's fine, but like, Jimmy, O

1011
00:44:11,474 --> 00:44:13,034
Speaker 1: done with that. Well, I'm glad that didn't do it

1012
00:44:13,074 --> 00:44:15,034
Speaker 1: for you. And then we see them start to fall in.

1013
00:44:15,234 --> 00:44:16,873
Speaker 2: She hit behind the tree and he's like, who goes there?

1014
00:44:17,234 --> 00:44:18,514
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't see, but he's like, I've got so

1015
00:44:18,594 --> 00:44:20,034
Speaker 1: much patience, I can wait all day. I'm yes, sir,

1016
00:44:20,034 --> 00:44:22,514
Speaker 1: Because you're unmployed, I'm like, give nothing else, so literally

1017
00:44:22,554 --> 00:44:23,034
Speaker 1: nothing to do it.

1018
00:44:23,074 --> 00:44:25,074
Speaker 2: And also you have an infection and you're in this

1019
00:44:25,154 --> 00:44:28,073
Speaker 2: like swampy leg case I could meet. He's insane.

1020
00:44:28,474 --> 00:44:30,834
Speaker 1: Exactly that I know that that cut really did rule

1021
00:44:30,834 --> 00:44:32,914
Speaker 1: the story. And then we see him and Sophie have

1022
00:44:32,994 --> 00:44:35,154
Speaker 1: their first kiss, which was very cute, and then we

1023
00:44:35,234 --> 00:44:36,913
Speaker 1: have to see them go back to London because how

1024
00:44:36,914 --> 00:44:39,314
Speaker 1: could they possibly stay in the cottage without wrecking each

1025
00:44:39,314 --> 00:44:40,033
Speaker 1: other's clothes off?

1026
00:44:40,154 --> 00:44:42,913
Speaker 2: Exactly? Oh my god, I really wanted them to stay

1027
00:44:42,914 --> 00:44:44,434
Speaker 2: in the cottage for the rest of the season.

1028
00:44:44,514 --> 00:44:46,354
Speaker 1: I know, but then we wouldn't have got the staircase

1029
00:44:46,394 --> 00:44:48,914
Speaker 1: scene in Bridgeston House. So moving to that our final

1030
00:44:48,994 --> 00:44:52,274
Speaker 1: scene of these four episodes, and kind of like the

1031
00:44:52,354 --> 00:44:56,594
Speaker 1: mid season finale, which is where we see Sophie running

1032
00:44:56,594 --> 00:44:57,873
Speaker 1: back in to get her coin purse.

1033
00:44:57,954 --> 00:45:00,714
Speaker 2: Yes, because she now works at Bridgeton. Yeah, and she's

1034
00:45:00,914 --> 00:45:03,274
Speaker 2: realizing that, oh my god, everyone here is so nice

1035
00:45:03,314 --> 00:45:04,553
Speaker 2: because they're treated so nice.

1036
00:45:04,674 --> 00:45:07,354
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no one's living in fear. And also like

1037
00:45:07,354 --> 00:45:09,433
Speaker 1: her covers starting to be blown a little bit that

1038
00:45:09,474 --> 00:45:11,634
Speaker 1: she's actually raised as a lady because she's so well

1039
00:45:11,674 --> 00:45:12,314
Speaker 1: spoken and.

1040
00:45:12,234 --> 00:45:14,034
Speaker 2: She and Eloise becomes obsessed with her.

1041
00:45:14,114 --> 00:45:15,953
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, fair enough. She's never been a woman who's

1042
00:45:15,954 --> 00:45:17,993
Speaker 1: read a book. Huge news and.

1043
00:45:18,034 --> 00:45:21,034
Speaker 2: She only has to like tend to Eloise and Hyacinth

1044
00:45:21,194 --> 00:45:22,913
Speaker 2: where it's like in her previous houses she had to

1045
00:45:22,914 --> 00:45:25,194
Speaker 2: do everything. Yeah, and she's like, whoa, what an easy

1046
00:45:25,234 --> 00:45:27,514
Speaker 2: gig exactly, and she ends up doing much more. And

1047
00:45:27,554 --> 00:45:29,234
Speaker 2: that's why she's always seeing him in the house.

1048
00:45:29,434 --> 00:45:31,314
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and he's like, you'll never see me, but

1049
00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:33,354
Speaker 1: obviously he's so drawn. And this is where I actually

1050
00:45:33,354 --> 00:45:35,314
Speaker 1: start cause up until now I'm just like, I'm kind

1051
00:45:35,354 --> 00:45:37,234
Speaker 1: of invested in their love story. I'm not really seeing

1052
00:45:37,234 --> 00:45:38,953
Speaker 1: it yet. I know it's going to happen, but the

1053
00:45:39,034 --> 00:45:41,033
Speaker 1: more they are in the house together and.

1054
00:45:41,194 --> 00:45:43,634
Speaker 2: Very like Anthony and Kate, Yeah, it's a bit more

1055
00:45:43,634 --> 00:45:45,194
Speaker 2: of a slow bang, which I love.

1056
00:45:46,314 --> 00:45:49,754
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh it's literally all I want, just on screen.

1057
00:45:49,794 --> 00:45:51,594
Speaker 1: No one for me, but just like just on screen,

1058
00:45:52,034 --> 00:45:54,794
Speaker 1: I want so creepy. That's what we call in present

1059
00:45:54,834 --> 00:45:58,754
Speaker 1: day a stalker. And then we have this moment where

1060
00:45:58,954 --> 00:46:01,314
Speaker 1: they're both rushing through British and the house and they

1061
00:46:01,354 --> 00:46:04,234
Speaker 1: meet on the stairs. Two facts about that scene before

1062
00:46:04,274 --> 00:46:06,234
Speaker 1: we get into if it was hot or not. One

1063
00:46:06,434 --> 00:46:09,674
Speaker 1: is that Luke and Yarn, who play the main characters,

1064
00:46:09,994 --> 00:46:12,594
Speaker 1: both said they were both violently ill throughout the They

1065
00:46:12,634 --> 00:46:14,634
Speaker 1: didn't go to specifics, but they were both ill throughout

1066
00:46:14,674 --> 00:46:17,434
Speaker 1: all the filming of those scenes, like flemy ill. Maybe

1067
00:46:17,754 --> 00:46:20,034
Speaker 1: again they didn't get into it, but I was also like,

1068
00:46:20,074 --> 00:46:21,514
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. I didn't want to know

1069
00:46:21,554 --> 00:46:22,873
Speaker 1: that you were even sick. I don't want to think

1070
00:46:22,914 --> 00:46:25,873
Speaker 1: about that. The second thing is the beautiful symbolism of

1071
00:46:25,874 --> 00:46:28,234
Speaker 1: it being on the stairs, because that was very deliberate

1072
00:46:28,274 --> 00:46:31,554
Speaker 1: of the fact that he comes from high society, she

1073
00:46:31,714 --> 00:46:35,074
Speaker 1: comes from low society. They exist on different levels, but

1074
00:46:35,274 --> 00:46:38,794
Speaker 1: meeting on the staircase together in a connecting place is

1075
00:46:38,834 --> 00:46:41,074
Speaker 1: the first time they were ever on the same level.

1076
00:46:41,434 --> 00:46:43,873
Speaker 1: So it's the first time they're like equal partners in

1077
00:46:43,954 --> 00:46:47,194
Speaker 1: this new love story that we're seeing. WHOA, yeah, that's

1078
00:46:47,234 --> 00:46:49,993
Speaker 1: a metaphor yeah exactly. And then what did you think

1079
00:46:49,994 --> 00:46:52,354
Speaker 1: of their little sex scene? We'll not little bit.

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00:46:52,394 --> 00:46:54,754
Speaker 2: It was justind of how graphic can we get here?

1081
00:46:54,954 --> 00:46:57,234
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the fact that well, I mean, obviously as

1082
00:46:57,274 --> 00:46:59,354
Speaker 1: graphic as you want, well, I don't want to give

1083
00:46:59,354 --> 00:47:01,954
Speaker 1: you some words to use, armorous congress of the making

1084
00:47:01,954 --> 00:47:05,034
Speaker 1: of feet of children's stoppings happened upon the staircase. But

1085
00:47:05,234 --> 00:47:07,433
Speaker 1: especially what made it even more sexyf in me was

1086
00:47:07,474 --> 00:47:09,354
Speaker 1: the fact that she had been masturbating to him in

1087
00:47:09,394 --> 00:47:09,993
Speaker 1: her own bed.

1088
00:47:10,194 --> 00:47:13,714
Speaker 2: Yes, and she couldn't finish because she was just so confused.

1089
00:47:13,314 --> 00:47:15,634
Speaker 1: Because she needed she needed him there. But the fact

1090
00:47:15,634 --> 00:47:17,914
Speaker 1: that she wanted him so much and the moment happened

1091
00:47:18,514 --> 00:47:21,234
Speaker 1: is like a sense of agency and wish fulfillment that

1092
00:47:21,274 --> 00:47:24,074
Speaker 1: you don't always get in these romance movies or TV

1093
00:47:24,114 --> 00:47:26,314
Speaker 1: shows of books where the man kind of just makes

1094
00:47:26,354 --> 00:47:28,194
Speaker 1: every call and the woman just has to go with it.

1095
00:47:28,394 --> 00:47:32,594
Speaker 2: Yeah, the method he chose, it wouldn't have been my

1096
00:47:32,714 --> 00:47:35,354
Speaker 2: favorite if I was in her position. I have to

1097
00:47:35,354 --> 00:47:37,154
Speaker 2: be honest.

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00:47:37,354 --> 00:47:40,634
Speaker 1: Kissing against the lick in the hand, yeah, I thought.

1099
00:47:40,434 --> 00:47:43,274
Speaker 2: The kissing against the wall very hot, very into that,

1100
00:47:43,874 --> 00:47:46,754
Speaker 2: the like double finger lick and then.

1101
00:47:47,754 --> 00:47:49,794
Speaker 1: To use what he had. Yeah, but the way the

1102
00:47:49,834 --> 00:47:52,514
Speaker 1: moment you can go running grab some don't even know

1103
00:47:52,554 --> 00:47:54,354
Speaker 1: what they'll use for lou back. Then I'll deep dive

1104
00:47:54,354 --> 00:47:54,634
Speaker 1: for next.

1105
00:47:55,034 --> 00:47:57,074
Speaker 2: But he didn't like actually feel to see if she

1106
00:47:57,114 --> 00:47:59,194
Speaker 2: was wet enow first. I don't feel like that should

1107
00:47:59,234 --> 00:48:01,274
Speaker 2: be the thing you do first and then you go

1108
00:48:01,354 --> 00:48:03,554
Speaker 2: for the hand. But the way he did, like the

1109
00:48:03,594 --> 00:48:06,634
Speaker 2: double finger lick and then I think put his hand

1110
00:48:06,674 --> 00:48:08,194
Speaker 2: under her just felt very.

1111
00:48:08,154 --> 00:48:10,274
Speaker 1: Long on her six skirts. Sometimes I'm just like, well,

1112
00:48:10,314 --> 00:48:11,754
Speaker 1: I mean not that you need to see the whole

1113
00:48:11,954 --> 00:48:12,674
Speaker 1: progression of it.

1114
00:48:12,714 --> 00:48:15,354
Speaker 2: But he had a lot very heavy, but it looked

1115
00:48:15,394 --> 00:48:17,473
Speaker 2: more like a kind of examination.

1116
00:48:18,114 --> 00:48:19,754
Speaker 1: Oh that's what used to go away from that. I

1117
00:48:19,754 --> 00:48:20,593
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of hot.

1118
00:48:21,154 --> 00:48:24,594
Speaker 2: I just think like the way he curved his fingers together.

1119
00:48:25,234 --> 00:48:26,194
Speaker 1: You didn't like his technique.

1120
00:48:26,234 --> 00:48:29,513
Speaker 2: I didn't like his technique. I thought that looked quite uncomfortable,

1121
00:48:29,514 --> 00:48:31,794
Speaker 2: and that would have been a bit painful initially for me.

1122
00:48:32,234 --> 00:48:34,674
Speaker 1: Maybe it did her reactions soften it for you because

1123
00:48:34,714 --> 00:48:36,234
Speaker 1: she looked to be liking it so much.

1124
00:48:36,274 --> 00:48:37,994
Speaker 2: She looked to be liking it. But then I really

1125
00:48:38,034 --> 00:48:40,674
Speaker 2: thought about it, and if I was in that position,

1126
00:48:40,754 --> 00:48:43,234
Speaker 2: I probably would fake it as well. I don't think

1127
00:48:43,234 --> 00:48:43,993
Speaker 2: she enjoyed that.

1128
00:48:44,194 --> 00:48:46,194
Speaker 1: She wasn't faking it though. That's the whole point, is

1129
00:48:46,194 --> 00:48:48,154
Speaker 1: that she was finally with the person that she wanted

1130
00:48:48,154 --> 00:48:48,594
Speaker 1: to be with.

1131
00:48:48,874 --> 00:48:51,194
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it gets worse from there exactly.

1132
00:48:51,194 --> 00:48:52,914
Speaker 1: So this is the point that has really divided people,

1133
00:48:52,914 --> 00:48:55,473
Speaker 1: coming to the very last scene of a season four

1134
00:48:55,914 --> 00:48:59,634
Speaker 1: section one, which is the fact that he says to her, Sophie,

1135
00:48:59,834 --> 00:49:02,874
Speaker 1: will you And you think he's gonna say be my wife,

1136
00:49:03,114 --> 00:49:05,794
Speaker 1: because that's how these things go, and said he says,

1137
00:49:06,354 --> 00:49:11,234
Speaker 1: will you be my mistress? That man get out of

1138
00:49:11,234 --> 00:49:14,314
Speaker 1: my face? Okay, the fast I would just have him. Well,

1139
00:49:14,354 --> 00:49:17,114
Speaker 1: I mean she ran away with her skirts, rustling move

1140
00:49:17,154 --> 00:49:17,513
Speaker 1: makes sense.

1141
00:49:17,594 --> 00:49:19,234
Speaker 2: She didn't even bring back her coin purse.

1142
00:49:19,394 --> 00:49:21,194
Speaker 1: No, now she's gonna tie her friends are gonna be like,

1143
00:49:21,234 --> 00:49:23,034
Speaker 1: where is that? So now she's gonna have to go

1144
00:49:23,074 --> 00:49:25,473
Speaker 1: into the table. Can you spot me and be out

1145
00:49:25,514 --> 00:49:28,433
Speaker 1: and could believe me, I've had a night. Okay, not

1146
00:49:28,514 --> 00:49:32,554
Speaker 1: to defend Benedict Bridgeton, but he couldn't have said anything

1147
00:49:32,554 --> 00:49:33,913
Speaker 1: else in that moment. It could have.

1148
00:49:33,954 --> 00:49:37,354
Speaker 2: Literally been like, thank you, that was so nice. No,

1149
00:49:37,474 --> 00:49:38,754
Speaker 2: but the thing is, and then they would have had

1150
00:49:38,754 --> 00:49:39,953
Speaker 2: a conversation on the later day.

1151
00:49:39,994 --> 00:49:43,034
Speaker 1: He knows that he cannot marry her because she is

1152
00:49:43,114 --> 00:49:46,873
Speaker 1: not of the correct station but place and time, I know,

1153
00:49:46,994 --> 00:49:48,994
Speaker 1: but the thing is in that moment. To him, that

1154
00:49:49,154 --> 00:49:51,314
Speaker 1: is the most romantic thing he can offer to her

1155
00:49:51,634 --> 00:49:53,794
Speaker 1: by saying like, this is not a one time deal.

1156
00:49:54,114 --> 00:49:56,034
Speaker 1: I'm not going to forget you because the thing is

1157
00:49:56,074 --> 00:49:58,154
Speaker 1: a lot of her time. Women who would have hooked

1158
00:49:58,234 --> 00:49:59,473
Speaker 1: up with a man of the house would have been

1159
00:49:59,514 --> 00:50:02,234
Speaker 1: dismissed the next day, would have been shunned, would have

1160
00:50:02,274 --> 00:50:04,994
Speaker 1: been potentially like in a violent or upsetting situation. I

1161
00:50:05,074 --> 00:50:07,594
Speaker 1: know Bridgington doesn't always go there, but like he has

1162
00:50:07,674 --> 00:50:09,754
Speaker 1: all the power in this situation and she has a

1163
00:50:09,834 --> 00:50:13,074
Speaker 1: zero power. And so him saying to her, will you

1164
00:50:13,154 --> 00:50:16,194
Speaker 1: be my mistress is a promise to look after her

1165
00:50:16,234 --> 00:50:19,073
Speaker 1: and protect her and not to punish her for having

1166
00:50:19,074 --> 00:50:20,913
Speaker 1: sex with him, just because it could lead back in

1167
00:50:20,954 --> 00:50:23,913
Speaker 1: a bad way. It's the only thing he can offer her,

1168
00:50:24,034 --> 00:50:25,114
Speaker 1: and that's why he does it.

1169
00:50:25,034 --> 00:50:27,474
Speaker 2: It's such a half way. It's like a half asked

1170
00:50:27,514 --> 00:50:30,553
Speaker 2: thing to ask. Okay, imagine you have like really hot

1171
00:50:30,594 --> 00:50:33,074
Speaker 2: sex with this guy. Yeah, one night's down, like it

1172
00:50:33,194 --> 00:50:35,114
Speaker 2: just came out of the blue. You're both crashing on

1173
00:50:35,154 --> 00:50:37,114
Speaker 2: each other for a really, really long time. It finally

1174
00:50:37,194 --> 00:50:41,794
Speaker 2: happened and he goes, Laura, will you be my situationship?

1175
00:50:42,394 --> 00:50:46,074
Speaker 1: But again, we cannot equate those two things. You can

1176
00:50:46,394 --> 00:50:48,674
Speaker 1: because in this day and age, I'm like, I don't

1177
00:50:48,714 --> 00:50:50,873
Speaker 1: know the world's going in a really bad direction the moment,

1178
00:50:51,034 --> 00:50:52,913
Speaker 1: so I don't know if this will happen. But in

1179
00:50:52,994 --> 00:50:55,433
Speaker 1: this point in time, there is no man in this

1180
00:50:55,474 --> 00:50:58,314
Speaker 1: world who can put me in like a bad position

1181
00:50:58,354 --> 00:51:01,873
Speaker 1: where my livelihood and my accommodation and my job is

1182
00:51:02,314 --> 00:51:06,674
Speaker 1: based on them not treating me badly. And the situationship

1183
00:51:06,674 --> 00:51:09,034
Speaker 1: and a miss stress is a very different dynamic. But

1184
00:51:09,274 --> 00:51:11,354
Speaker 1: because a mistress in that time would have always been

1185
00:51:11,394 --> 00:51:13,473
Speaker 1: with like a man of power and wealth, and it's

1186
00:51:13,474 --> 00:51:15,514
Speaker 1: a promise of protection, it's not a promise to be

1187
00:51:15,554 --> 00:51:17,993
Speaker 1: treated well. But I think from Benict Bridgest to knowing

1188
00:51:18,154 --> 00:51:20,874
Speaker 1: who he is a character, it's his way of promising

1189
00:51:20,914 --> 00:51:21,314
Speaker 1: to look on it.

1190
00:51:21,314 --> 00:51:23,514
Speaker 2: I guess you've seen his friends full in love with mistresses.

1191
00:51:23,994 --> 00:51:24,754
Speaker 2: This is how it has to do.

1192
00:51:24,794 --> 00:51:25,634
Speaker 1: This is how you do it.

1193
00:51:25,714 --> 00:51:28,473
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but then what would have happened if they

1194
00:51:28,514 --> 00:51:29,434
Speaker 2: were to get married.

1195
00:51:29,674 --> 00:51:31,194
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be allowed to get married.

1196
00:51:31,474 --> 00:51:33,034
Speaker 2: But what if they just did and then they just

1197
00:51:33,074 --> 00:51:34,154
Speaker 2: live in my cottage?

1198
00:51:34,474 --> 00:51:36,074
Speaker 1: I mean they could. I think his family will cut

1199
00:51:36,114 --> 00:51:38,474
Speaker 1: him off. But in that time and place, you have

1200
00:51:38,514 --> 00:51:41,034
Speaker 1: to get permission from your family to marry different people,

1201
00:51:41,354 --> 00:51:44,033
Speaker 1: and so his family, I mean, the British are pretty liberal,

1202
00:51:44,074 --> 00:51:46,274
Speaker 1: but they're not that liberal that he would be allowed

1203
00:51:46,274 --> 00:51:48,114
Speaker 1: to marry a maid. Obviously, it's all going to come

1204
00:51:48,154 --> 00:51:50,834
Speaker 1: out that she's not a maid, that she's come from

1205
00:51:50,874 --> 00:51:51,993
Speaker 1: a wealthy though.

1206
00:51:52,034 --> 00:51:55,154
Speaker 2: This is like what I'm scared about season the next

1207
00:51:55,194 --> 00:51:56,954
Speaker 2: half is that obviously we're going to find out that

1208
00:51:57,034 --> 00:52:00,274
Speaker 2: she does have an inheritance. That's what I'm assuming. We're

1209
00:52:00,314 --> 00:52:01,354
Speaker 2: going to find that she actually.

1210
00:52:01,154 --> 00:52:03,634
Speaker 1: Does, and she's going to throw her family out in

1211
00:52:03,674 --> 00:52:04,513
Speaker 1: the streets.

1212
00:52:04,154 --> 00:52:05,873
Speaker 2: And she's going to be like super super rich and

1213
00:52:05,914 --> 00:52:07,594
Speaker 2: she's gonna be a lady at the time, and then

1214
00:52:08,154 --> 00:52:10,674
Speaker 2: they're all gonna find out. What I hope and I

1215
00:52:10,714 --> 00:52:13,674
Speaker 2: was talking to a friend about this, is that they

1216
00:52:13,714 --> 00:52:17,074
Speaker 2: find that out after he wants to marry her.

1217
00:52:17,394 --> 00:52:19,114
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it's not as an.

1218
00:52:18,994 --> 00:52:21,754
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, now that you're actually someone with a name,

1219
00:52:21,954 --> 00:52:23,074
Speaker 2: then we can get married.

1220
00:52:23,274 --> 00:52:24,914
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. A part of me does dream of

1221
00:52:24,954 --> 00:52:27,034
Speaker 1: him saying like, I'm going to marry her no matter what,

1222
00:52:27,354 --> 00:52:29,794
Speaker 1: and We're gonna live in like filth and poorness without

1223
00:52:29,834 --> 00:52:32,154
Speaker 1: my family's money and that'll be enough. The truth about

1224
00:52:32,154 --> 00:52:34,194
Speaker 1: that is that man's not gonna last one day on

1225
00:52:34,194 --> 00:52:37,913
Speaker 1: this earth without money. He has no skills and no like,

1226
00:52:38,194 --> 00:52:39,913
Speaker 1: no way. So they do need the money, but like

1227
00:52:40,034 --> 00:52:45,234
Speaker 1: we live getting infection. Yeah, so that is British in

1228
00:52:45,394 --> 00:52:49,393
Speaker 1: Season four, Part one. Our brutally honest review season two

1229
00:52:49,514 --> 00:52:51,794
Speaker 1: is coming on February twenty six.

1230
00:52:51,954 --> 00:52:54,073
Speaker 2: Well know what I have to do. What I'm gonna

1231
00:52:54,114 --> 00:52:57,714
Speaker 2: be in India with Antney and Cape. Hey, friends, Hey,

1232
00:52:57,994 --> 00:53:00,033
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to download all the episodes and watching

1233
00:53:00,154 --> 00:53:00,634
Speaker 2: on the plane.

1234
00:53:00,914 --> 00:53:03,234
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do because our Brillian

1235
00:53:03,274 --> 00:53:05,434
Speaker 1: honest review of season two is gonna be if you

1236
00:53:05,474 --> 00:53:07,074
Speaker 1: can believe it more off the charts in this one

1237
00:53:07,314 --> 00:53:07,794
Speaker 1: so good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this bill today.

1239
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Speaker 2: If you're enjoying what you're hearing, please leave us a

1240
00:53:13,274 --> 00:53:15,873
Speaker 2: five star rating and review. It means so so much

1241
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Speaker 2: to us. This bill is produced by Minitius Warren and

1242
00:53:18,594 --> 00:53:20,873
Speaker 2: sound production by Scott Stronik. And we will see you

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye. Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land.

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Speaker 1: We have recorded this podcast on the Gatigol people of

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1247
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