1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,064 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,144 --> 00:00:18,824 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,904 --> 00:00:26,824 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,864 --> 00:00:29,944 Speaker 1: the Spill your daily pop culture peaks. I'm Laura Brednick 5 00:00:30,024 --> 00:00:32,784 Speaker 1: and I'm in Burnham and on today's show, lots to 6 00:00:32,864 --> 00:00:35,544 Speaker 1: talk about the new most successful singer in the world 7 00:00:35,624 --> 00:00:38,144 Speaker 1: who we have fallen in love with. Her career has 8 00:00:38,144 --> 00:00:40,424 Speaker 1: taken a turn. She's running away from the spotlight and 9 00:00:40,464 --> 00:00:43,904 Speaker 1: we think it's the fans fold. Plus a celebrity accidentally 10 00:00:43,944 --> 00:00:46,984 Speaker 1: revealed her engagement at the Olympic Games. But there's more 11 00:00:47,024 --> 00:00:49,904 Speaker 1: to this story because she has had a rocky road 12 00:00:49,944 --> 00:00:51,624 Speaker 1: to love. I feel like a maggot, like an old 13 00:00:51,664 --> 00:00:54,264 Speaker 1: school magazine. Don't want saying that like click click, you 14 00:00:54,344 --> 00:00:55,144 Speaker 1: got me exactly. 15 00:00:55,544 --> 00:00:59,544 Speaker 2: But first, there is something big that's happening in Paris 16 00:00:59,584 --> 00:01:00,104 Speaker 2: at the moment. 17 00:01:00,384 --> 00:01:00,864 Speaker 1: What could that be? 18 00:01:01,024 --> 00:01:02,224 Speaker 2: LB, Can you take a guess? 19 00:01:02,464 --> 00:01:04,064 Speaker 1: Obviously I know it's the Olympics. I was trying to 20 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:06,784 Speaker 1: like reference every French movie I've watched, but actually you're wrung. 21 00:01:06,864 --> 00:01:10,304 Speaker 1: It's not the Olympics. Oh okay, it's a reunion. Oh yeah, 22 00:01:11,584 --> 00:01:11,944 Speaker 1: you did that. 23 00:01:12,944 --> 00:01:14,424 Speaker 2: I was like, can't wait for you to answer this 24 00:01:14,744 --> 00:01:17,584 Speaker 2: and get it wrong. It is a reunion of the 25 00:01:17,584 --> 00:01:20,344 Speaker 2: cast members of the best movie in the whole world 26 00:01:20,424 --> 00:01:22,384 Speaker 2: to some Sex and City. 27 00:01:22,304 --> 00:01:24,184 Speaker 1: You joke, But I love that movie. I know it's 28 00:01:24,224 --> 00:01:26,584 Speaker 1: become very fashionable now for everyone to say that they 29 00:01:26,584 --> 00:01:28,984 Speaker 1: don't like the Sex and the City movie, But I'm 30 00:01:29,064 --> 00:01:31,544 Speaker 1: standing strong. I saw that movie twice in cinemas. It 31 00:01:31,584 --> 00:01:34,264 Speaker 1: was a magical experience and I feel good every time 32 00:01:34,304 --> 00:01:36,304 Speaker 1: I watch it. From then on, I will hear nothing 33 00:01:36,344 --> 00:01:38,344 Speaker 1: about it. The second movie I can't defend as much. 34 00:01:38,344 --> 00:01:40,104 Speaker 2: Okay, I have an unpopular opinion because I love the. 35 00:01:40,104 --> 00:01:41,624 Speaker 1: Second movie more. Do you really? 36 00:01:41,664 --> 00:01:43,704 Speaker 2: I always love sequels more. I always love sequels more. 37 00:01:43,744 --> 00:01:45,024 Speaker 1: What do you love about it? You just love that 38 00:01:45,064 --> 00:01:47,624 Speaker 1: it's so like frivolous and crazy and they just living 39 00:01:47,624 --> 00:01:49,784 Speaker 1: this lux holiday. I didn't mind the second movie. I 40 00:01:49,784 --> 00:01:51,104 Speaker 1: don't hate as much as other people do. 41 00:01:51,224 --> 00:01:54,224 Speaker 2: I think Carrie and Biggs's relationship gave me a lot 42 00:01:54,264 --> 00:01:57,144 Speaker 2: of anxiety in the first movie because I was like, Oh, no, 43 00:01:57,224 --> 00:01:58,504 Speaker 2: what she gonna do, Because like. 44 00:01:58,384 --> 00:01:59,984 Speaker 1: The whole life has been about this man. 45 00:02:00,424 --> 00:02:02,384 Speaker 2: And now I don't know that she's living like us, 46 00:02:02,384 --> 00:02:03,744 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know if she can handle it. 47 00:02:04,024 --> 00:02:09,144 Speaker 2: She couldn't spoilers second movie. I just love the cinematography, 48 00:02:09,464 --> 00:02:10,704 Speaker 2: the outfits. 49 00:02:10,064 --> 00:02:13,104 Speaker 1: The outfits are amazing. Anyway, that's not what we're talking 50 00:02:13,104 --> 00:02:16,104 Speaker 1: about today. This is a fifteen year old review of 51 00:02:16,144 --> 00:02:18,104 Speaker 1: two movies that came out a very long time ago. 52 00:02:18,184 --> 00:02:21,624 Speaker 2: We should that for sure. Jennifer Hudson, who was in 53 00:02:21,704 --> 00:02:25,104 Speaker 2: Sex and the City one, she played Louise from Saint Louis. 54 00:02:25,224 --> 00:02:25,424 Speaker 1: Yeah. 55 00:02:25,704 --> 00:02:28,144 Speaker 2: She posted on her Instagram a photo of her and 56 00:02:28,224 --> 00:02:31,104 Speaker 2: Sarah Jessica Parker together in front of the Eiffel Tower 57 00:02:31,184 --> 00:02:33,544 Speaker 2: that has now been lit up for the Olympics. Yeah, 58 00:02:33,584 --> 00:02:36,904 Speaker 2: and the caption said, look who I ran into in Paris. 59 00:02:37,144 --> 00:02:39,584 Speaker 2: Kerrie and Louise reunited at last. 60 00:02:39,824 --> 00:02:42,944 Speaker 1: Love is a thing you sided when she said love 61 00:02:43,024 --> 00:02:44,784 Speaker 1: is the thing you know, because that's her catch line 62 00:02:44,784 --> 00:02:47,944 Speaker 1: from the movie. Actually, my favorite thing about the Olympics 63 00:02:47,984 --> 00:02:49,584 Speaker 1: being in Paris is how you know how like the 64 00:02:49,624 --> 00:02:51,864 Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower is always lit up with the light show, 65 00:02:52,384 --> 00:02:54,984 Speaker 1: and at the moment they've got like an Olympic themed 66 00:02:55,064 --> 00:02:57,304 Speaker 1: light show going up over the Eiffel Tower, so it 67 00:02:57,304 --> 00:03:00,024 Speaker 1: looks crazy. And I saw this tweet of someone saying, 68 00:03:00,064 --> 00:03:05,264 Speaker 1: Alexander Petrophcy's your daughter would hate this. I guess that's 69 00:03:05,264 --> 00:03:07,704 Speaker 1: that big moment, that iconic moment from the last season 70 00:03:07,744 --> 00:03:10,904 Speaker 1: where they're talking to the Eiffel Tower and Alexander Trotsky's 71 00:03:10,984 --> 00:03:13,944 Speaker 1: daughter is like, it's idious, idiots idious, and Carrie's like, oh, 72 00:03:14,024 --> 00:03:14,544 Speaker 1: I like it and. 73 00:03:14,584 --> 00:03:16,264 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah. She does a little scream when 74 00:03:16,264 --> 00:03:17,744 Speaker 2: she sees her, don't we all? 75 00:03:17,824 --> 00:03:19,304 Speaker 1: Every time I see in the Eiffel Tower, I do 76 00:03:19,344 --> 00:03:19,744 Speaker 1: the same thing. 77 00:03:19,904 --> 00:03:22,624 Speaker 2: It reminds me of that scene where like she's with 78 00:03:22,704 --> 00:03:25,104 Speaker 2: her girlfriends and then she has like a mental breakdown, 79 00:03:25,224 --> 00:03:28,184 Speaker 2: saying that biggest moving to Paris, she starts breaking things. 80 00:03:28,424 --> 00:03:28,984 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? 81 00:03:29,104 --> 00:03:30,824 Speaker 1: Do I remember that? I've seen every episode of that 82 00:03:30,944 --> 00:03:34,024 Speaker 1: shows about the situationship with the man, but they were 83 00:03:34,104 --> 00:03:36,784 Speaker 1: very entangled. Again, we're getting into something they're finished twenty 84 00:03:36,864 --> 00:03:37,264 Speaker 1: years ago. 85 00:03:37,864 --> 00:03:42,184 Speaker 2: The funny thing about this, like photo obviously everyone loves it. 86 00:03:42,224 --> 00:03:45,264 Speaker 2: We love a little reunion, but it also reminded people 87 00:03:45,544 --> 00:03:50,784 Speaker 2: about Jennifer Hudson's character in that first movie. She played 88 00:03:50,944 --> 00:03:54,264 Speaker 2: Carrie's assistant who assisted her in more ways than one. 89 00:03:54,304 --> 00:03:55,984 Speaker 2: I would say, like she helped her like get over 90 00:03:56,064 --> 00:03:57,784 Speaker 2: a breakup, they spoke about love. 91 00:03:57,944 --> 00:04:00,064 Speaker 1: I think Carrie's words in the movie are You brought 92 00:04:00,104 --> 00:04:03,144 Speaker 1: me back to life. So that's what she did after 93 00:04:03,184 --> 00:04:03,704 Speaker 1: her breakout. 94 00:04:04,384 --> 00:04:07,784 Speaker 2: And a big part about Jennifer Hudson's character Louise is 95 00:04:07,784 --> 00:04:09,744 Speaker 2: that she loved fashion, but you couldn't afford it, so 96 00:04:09,784 --> 00:04:11,984 Speaker 2: she would like and like a lot of designer bags. 97 00:04:12,264 --> 00:04:15,424 Speaker 2: So as they were partying, Carrie very kindly gifted her 98 00:04:15,544 --> 00:04:21,064 Speaker 2: her own Louis Vuitton bag, and Jennifer Hudson deserves an 99 00:04:21,104 --> 00:04:24,624 Speaker 2: Oscar for this scene, in particular for pretending to be 100 00:04:24,824 --> 00:04:28,704 Speaker 2: so happy and excited over the ugliest bag I have 101 00:04:28,984 --> 00:04:31,864 Speaker 2: ever seen in my entire life. 102 00:04:34,184 --> 00:04:39,104 Speaker 1: Fun my very oh good time. 103 00:04:39,344 --> 00:04:43,344 Speaker 2: That's right, No more rent girl for you. Look who's 104 00:04:43,384 --> 00:04:46,544 Speaker 2: home from a big city. 105 00:04:47,424 --> 00:04:50,664 Speaker 1: It was the best money I'd ever spent. Again, I 106 00:04:50,704 --> 00:04:52,344 Speaker 1: think you're looking back at it now with more when 107 00:04:52,384 --> 00:04:54,824 Speaker 1: you were eyes, because I think at the time that 108 00:04:54,944 --> 00:04:57,424 Speaker 1: was a very popular designer bag, and also the woman 109 00:04:57,464 --> 00:04:58,984 Speaker 1: had never had a designer bag before. She was just 110 00:04:58,984 --> 00:05:01,224 Speaker 1: so happy to have it. Against that one in general, 111 00:05:01,584 --> 00:05:03,824 Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, go with a lot of stuff. 112 00:05:03,824 --> 00:05:05,064 Speaker 2: It doesn't go a lot of stuff. She had to 113 00:05:05,064 --> 00:05:06,784 Speaker 2: make it work I didn't care. I gave her a 114 00:05:06,864 --> 00:05:07,984 Speaker 2: challenge more than a gift. 115 00:05:08,744 --> 00:05:11,224 Speaker 1: The interesting thing about this is that obviously so many 116 00:05:11,264 --> 00:05:13,864 Speaker 1: past characters from Sex and the City have been making 117 00:05:13,864 --> 00:05:17,504 Speaker 1: appearances on just like that, and people have been desperate 118 00:05:17,784 --> 00:05:21,504 Speaker 1: for Jennifer Hudson to reprise her role as Louise and 119 00:05:21,664 --> 00:05:23,424 Speaker 1: they want her to be the owner of life. 120 00:05:23,424 --> 00:05:24,344 Speaker 2: She'd better have that bag. 121 00:05:25,104 --> 00:05:27,224 Speaker 1: If she walks in with that bag, that would be 122 00:05:27,264 --> 00:05:29,504 Speaker 1: the best. That's the best thing that shows. Every time 123 00:05:29,504 --> 00:05:32,064 Speaker 1: you see, like when Carrie's like carrying close to her apartment, 124 00:05:32,104 --> 00:05:34,544 Speaker 1: you see like a really iconic dress that she wore 125 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:37,744 Speaker 1: in the show. It'd be so great to pigeon purse. Yes, 126 00:05:37,784 --> 00:05:39,464 Speaker 1: it'd be so great if Louise came in and she 127 00:05:39,544 --> 00:05:42,344 Speaker 1: had that bag. All the storyline that people really want 128 00:05:42,824 --> 00:05:45,384 Speaker 1: is for her to own some huge chain of like 129 00:05:45,544 --> 00:05:48,744 Speaker 1: fashion rental or something like that, and then for like 130 00:05:48,784 --> 00:05:50,304 Speaker 1: the bag to be like on a shelf in the 131 00:05:50,304 --> 00:05:52,264 Speaker 1: background or something that she's renting out. 132 00:05:52,504 --> 00:05:55,064 Speaker 2: If you've forgotten what the bag looks like, I don't 133 00:05:55,064 --> 00:05:57,024 Speaker 2: know how you would have forgotten that, But I have 134 00:05:57,144 --> 00:05:59,544 Speaker 2: posted a photo of it on us bill Instagram, as 135 00:05:59,584 --> 00:06:09,504 Speaker 2: well as a readion photo of Kerry and Louise, so. 136 00:06:09,624 --> 00:06:12,784 Speaker 1: Once again talking about happenings in Paris. Normally, I'd love 137 00:06:12,824 --> 00:06:14,624 Speaker 1: Paris because I'm a basic bitch, and people are like, oh, 138 00:06:14,664 --> 00:06:17,064 Speaker 1: Paris isn't want to expectations. Every time being there, I'm like, 139 00:06:17,064 --> 00:06:20,224 Speaker 1: it exceeds my expectations because it is just such a 140 00:06:20,344 --> 00:06:24,624 Speaker 1: romantic man only three times only. Well, yeah, but I 141 00:06:24,664 --> 00:06:26,744 Speaker 1: think that sometimes people are like, oh, there's better places 142 00:06:26,824 --> 00:06:27,984 Speaker 1: or there's this than that, and I'm just like, no, 143 00:06:28,024 --> 00:06:29,904 Speaker 1: I'm a basic bitch. I will pass the Eiffel Tower, 144 00:06:29,984 --> 00:06:31,584 Speaker 1: walk along the river, I get a little croissant. 145 00:06:31,584 --> 00:06:34,464 Speaker 2: I'm happy people say that just because a lot of 146 00:06:34,504 --> 00:06:35,184 Speaker 2: people do it. 147 00:06:35,384 --> 00:06:38,264 Speaker 1: There's a syndrome where people build up It's like Paris syndrome, 148 00:06:38,304 --> 00:06:40,744 Speaker 1: which is a studied medical thing. This is going off topic, 149 00:06:40,944 --> 00:06:43,544 Speaker 1: where people build up the idea of Paris so much 150 00:06:43,544 --> 00:06:45,064 Speaker 1: and they get there, it's not what they wanted because 151 00:06:45,064 --> 00:06:47,584 Speaker 1: they see like garbage on the streets or the neighborhoods 152 00:06:47,584 --> 00:06:49,184 Speaker 1: that I'm just pretty and then they have to go 153 00:06:49,224 --> 00:06:53,064 Speaker 1: into counseling or be hospitalized. That's a real thing, Paris syndrome. Yeah. Anyway, 154 00:06:53,064 --> 00:06:56,304 Speaker 1: someone who doesn't have Paris syndrome. Get it back on 155 00:06:56,384 --> 00:06:59,904 Speaker 1: track is Lady Gaga, who was one of the performers 156 00:06:59,944 --> 00:07:03,224 Speaker 1: at the Paris twenty twenty four Olympics opening ceremony. She 157 00:07:03,264 --> 00:07:04,344 Speaker 1: looked incredible, which I. 158 00:07:04,344 --> 00:07:07,624 Speaker 2: See behind the scenes footage of that performance. No, because 159 00:07:07,664 --> 00:07:10,144 Speaker 2: she actually didn't do it live. Oh well, yeah, I 160 00:07:10,144 --> 00:07:12,184 Speaker 2: think that's pretty commonly in my mind, Like the people 161 00:07:12,184 --> 00:07:14,304 Speaker 2: who actually went there in person were like in front 162 00:07:14,344 --> 00:07:16,384 Speaker 2: of the staircase and she wasn't there. Yeah, and they 163 00:07:16,424 --> 00:07:18,544 Speaker 2: had to watch her perform on a screen. Yeah. 164 00:07:18,584 --> 00:07:20,344 Speaker 1: I think sometimes with these kind of big events they 165 00:07:20,384 --> 00:07:22,304 Speaker 1: have to pre record a few things. But you know, 166 00:07:22,384 --> 00:07:23,264 Speaker 1: she still looked amazing. 167 00:07:23,344 --> 00:07:24,104 Speaker 2: We'll played Gaga. 168 00:07:24,144 --> 00:07:25,984 Speaker 1: I first saw her when she opened for the Pussycat 169 00:07:26,024 --> 00:07:27,744 Speaker 1: Dolls and no one was there because they were just like, oh, 170 00:07:27,744 --> 00:07:29,504 Speaker 1: I don't I don't really care about this opening act. 171 00:07:29,544 --> 00:07:31,224 Speaker 1: I remember seeing her home, thinking she's a star. 172 00:07:31,584 --> 00:07:35,184 Speaker 2: She's a star, and guess what, later on she was born. 173 00:07:35,664 --> 00:07:38,384 Speaker 1: That's right, we're getting to that. So the newsweey thing 174 00:07:38,464 --> 00:07:41,024 Speaker 1: here is that later on, when she was talking to 175 00:07:41,184 --> 00:07:45,264 Speaker 1: French Prime Minister Gabrielle Attel, she let it slip for 176 00:07:45,304 --> 00:07:48,024 Speaker 1: the first time that she's engaged to her longtime partner 177 00:07:48,104 --> 00:07:53,464 Speaker 1: Michael Polanski. So basically someone filmed the interaction and her yeah, 178 00:07:53,504 --> 00:07:55,624 Speaker 1: and then it's gone viral on TikTok and you can 179 00:07:55,664 --> 00:07:58,304 Speaker 1: see her say this is my fiance Michael, and everyone's like, 180 00:07:58,424 --> 00:08:00,944 Speaker 1: everyone's like, say that again. Yeah, exactly, So that's her 181 00:08:00,984 --> 00:08:01,744 Speaker 1: little reveal. 182 00:08:04,384 --> 00:08:06,744 Speaker 2: Oh do you think she planned that? No, surely not. 183 00:08:06,824 --> 00:08:07,504 Speaker 1: That was an accident. 184 00:08:07,664 --> 00:08:07,824 Speaker 2: No. 185 00:08:07,864 --> 00:08:10,584 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's planned. I mean, she been 186 00:08:10,664 --> 00:08:13,384 Speaker 1: very private about this relationship. They've probably even wanted to 187 00:08:13,504 --> 00:08:15,824 Speaker 1: do a huge announcement. Yeah, they've been together in since 188 00:08:15,864 --> 00:08:17,784 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I don't think she usually posts a lot 189 00:08:17,784 --> 00:08:19,984 Speaker 1: about them, or talks about him and interviews. I think 190 00:08:19,984 --> 00:08:21,704 Speaker 1: she was so aware she's being filmed, so she's probably 191 00:08:21,784 --> 00:08:23,704 Speaker 1: this will get out, but I don't really care. Okay, 192 00:08:23,744 --> 00:08:26,424 Speaker 1: So that's really cute. They met in twenty twenty. They 193 00:08:26,424 --> 00:08:28,784 Speaker 1: were first caught kissing at a New Year's party in 194 00:08:28,824 --> 00:08:31,704 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. That was their big iconic entry into the world, 195 00:08:32,144 --> 00:08:34,544 Speaker 1: and then they spent the next two years in quarantine together. 196 00:08:34,664 --> 00:08:37,584 Speaker 2: So you get through that either make it or break 197 00:08:37,624 --> 00:08:39,184 Speaker 2: it in quarantine, Yes, I. 198 00:08:39,184 --> 00:08:40,864 Speaker 1: Feel like if you can get through that, although I'm 199 00:08:40,904 --> 00:08:42,464 Speaker 1: thinking their quarantine would have been different. 200 00:08:42,704 --> 00:08:45,024 Speaker 2: Quarantine would have been like two houses combined. 201 00:08:45,184 --> 00:08:48,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like palatial lens around meet. 202 00:08:47,944 --> 00:08:49,504 Speaker 2: You at dinner at six pm. 203 00:08:49,544 --> 00:08:51,864 Speaker 1: So this is the third time Lady Gaga has been engaged, 204 00:08:51,904 --> 00:08:54,104 Speaker 1: which you know, we love that time. Yeah, we love 205 00:08:54,104 --> 00:08:56,344 Speaker 1: a woman who lives a you know, crazy exciting thing. 206 00:08:56,344 --> 00:08:58,384 Speaker 2: I remember one of the time she had that engagement 207 00:08:58,464 --> 00:08:59,784 Speaker 2: ring that was like a diamond heart. 208 00:09:00,184 --> 00:09:02,104 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not sure who that was with, but she 209 00:09:02,344 --> 00:09:06,304 Speaker 1: was previously engaged to talent agent Kristin Carino, and before that, 210 00:09:06,384 --> 00:09:08,984 Speaker 1: she was engaged to Taylor Kinney, who I think a 211 00:09:08,984 --> 00:09:10,944 Speaker 1: lot of people know from Friday Night Life. He's also 212 00:09:10,984 --> 00:09:13,264 Speaker 1: been on like a Fire and Rescue procedural for a 213 00:09:13,304 --> 00:09:15,384 Speaker 1: long time. I know him as Mason Lockwood from the 214 00:09:15,424 --> 00:09:18,584 Speaker 1: Vampire Diaries. So they were engaging together for quite a 215 00:09:18,584 --> 00:09:18,984 Speaker 1: long time. 216 00:09:19,104 --> 00:09:22,344 Speaker 2: Wait, oh my god, I know this man, I know 217 00:09:22,464 --> 00:09:22,984 Speaker 2: his face. 218 00:09:23,144 --> 00:09:25,424 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, So that was the diamond engagement ring. So 219 00:09:25,464 --> 00:09:27,544 Speaker 1: they were together for a long time and apparently they 220 00:09:27,624 --> 00:09:29,624 Speaker 1: broke up. Well this is just rumors. Behind the scenes. 221 00:09:29,704 --> 00:09:31,664 Speaker 1: They broke up because he was really jealous of her 222 00:09:31,704 --> 00:09:34,464 Speaker 1: fame and of like, you know, her popularity, and they 223 00:09:34,464 --> 00:09:36,664 Speaker 1: couldn't be together all that sort of stuff, which I'm thinking, 224 00:09:36,704 --> 00:09:39,864 Speaker 1: if you're dating someone like, who's that crazy famous, if 225 00:09:39,904 --> 00:09:42,064 Speaker 1: you're wanting someone who's not in the spotlight, that's the 226 00:09:42,104 --> 00:09:44,704 Speaker 1: wrong relationship for you. Loore can be given relationship a 227 00:09:44,744 --> 00:09:47,064 Speaker 1: vice like I would know what that's like, ought to 228 00:09:47,104 --> 00:09:47,624 Speaker 1: be famous? 229 00:09:47,864 --> 00:09:50,704 Speaker 2: And which one did people think she broke up with 230 00:09:50,864 --> 00:09:51,824 Speaker 2: full Bradley. 231 00:09:51,504 --> 00:09:53,784 Speaker 1: Cooper, So that was Christian Carinos, that was the talent 232 00:09:53,824 --> 00:09:57,104 Speaker 1: agent she was engaged to prior. So a lot has 233 00:09:57,144 --> 00:10:00,864 Speaker 1: been said about, obviously, that whole intensity around the promo 234 00:10:00,984 --> 00:10:03,824 Speaker 1: tour for a Star is Born and Lady Gaga and 235 00:10:03,824 --> 00:10:07,464 Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper. It was like this multimillion dollar promo plan 236 00:10:07,624 --> 00:10:12,264 Speaker 1: that they spun around their relationship just followed. Since yeah, 237 00:10:12,344 --> 00:10:13,904 Speaker 1: that so many people have tried to emulate, but I 238 00:10:13,944 --> 00:10:16,264 Speaker 1: didn't think anyone's quite now that the way they nailed it. 239 00:10:16,544 --> 00:10:19,184 Speaker 1: So obviously, Bradley Cooper was with Irina Shaike during that 240 00:10:19,224 --> 00:10:21,704 Speaker 1: whole promo tour and they had a child together, and 241 00:10:21,784 --> 00:10:24,464 Speaker 1: she was with Christian and they weren't sort of as public, 242 00:10:24,504 --> 00:10:26,904 Speaker 1: but Irena and Christian were both sitting in the front 243 00:10:26,944 --> 00:10:30,064 Speaker 1: row of the oscars when Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga 244 00:10:30,224 --> 00:10:32,624 Speaker 1: did their sexy duet together with their heads on each 245 00:10:32,624 --> 00:10:34,624 Speaker 1: other's shoulders and all that sort of stuff, and then 246 00:10:34,664 --> 00:10:37,864 Speaker 1: both of those relationships ended not long after. So it's 247 00:10:37,944 --> 00:10:40,064 Speaker 1: kind of hard to say, like exactly if anything happened 248 00:10:40,144 --> 00:10:42,584 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I'm assuming that, like if 249 00:10:42,624 --> 00:10:45,384 Speaker 1: there was something going on behind the scenes those two relationships. 250 00:10:45,384 --> 00:10:47,864 Speaker 1: Seeing the person that you're in love with have this 251 00:10:47,904 --> 00:10:49,944 Speaker 1: big public and the world being like, oh, I wish 252 00:10:49,984 --> 00:10:51,464 Speaker 1: he wasn't with you, I wish he was with these 253 00:10:51,464 --> 00:10:53,584 Speaker 1: other people Like that would kind of, you know, be 254 00:10:53,624 --> 00:10:53,984 Speaker 1: a bit of a. 255 00:10:54,024 --> 00:10:56,264 Speaker 2: Kicker, especially being in the front seat of that and 256 00:10:56,304 --> 00:11:00,904 Speaker 2: watching it all happen, knowing that it is for marketing purposes. Yeah, 257 00:11:00,944 --> 00:11:02,824 Speaker 2: but I feel like, I don't know, I feel like 258 00:11:02,824 --> 00:11:06,264 Speaker 2: if you had any sense of like insecurity in a relationship, 259 00:11:06,304 --> 00:11:09,824 Speaker 2: which every normal person has to some extent, then it 260 00:11:09,824 --> 00:11:11,984 Speaker 2: will be so hard to like get that image out 261 00:11:12,024 --> 00:11:12,464 Speaker 2: of your head. 262 00:11:12,784 --> 00:11:15,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Remember how Bradley Cooper started sitting in the 263 00:11:15,344 --> 00:11:17,824 Speaker 1: audience and then he rose up from the audience and 264 00:11:17,904 --> 00:11:19,744 Speaker 1: walked on stage and then sat down at the piano 265 00:11:19,784 --> 00:11:21,184 Speaker 1: next to her, and then she put his head on 266 00:11:21,264 --> 00:11:23,384 Speaker 1: her head on his shoulder and was also sexy, like, 267 00:11:23,504 --> 00:11:25,744 Speaker 1: what a time to be alive. That's the best Oscars moment. 268 00:11:25,784 --> 00:11:27,104 Speaker 1: The whole office stopped for that. 269 00:11:27,104 --> 00:11:28,664 Speaker 2: And their partners were like, are they cheating? 270 00:11:28,704 --> 00:11:32,584 Speaker 1: And the camera closes up next to IRENA's face and 271 00:11:32,144 --> 00:11:34,384 Speaker 1: she looks incredible, but she's just nodding. 272 00:11:35,104 --> 00:11:38,384 Speaker 2: So my theory of why they broke up with their 273 00:11:38,384 --> 00:11:40,624 Speaker 2: partners after is because they were the first to actually 274 00:11:40,704 --> 00:11:43,504 Speaker 2: do the whole like marketing thing about them, like showing 275 00:11:43,504 --> 00:11:45,624 Speaker 2: that to that level, with that level of being really 276 00:11:45,624 --> 00:11:49,744 Speaker 2: flirtatious outside of the camera. And we talk about so 277 00:11:49,904 --> 00:11:52,624 Speaker 2: many other like TV movie couples who try to do 278 00:11:52,664 --> 00:11:55,584 Speaker 2: the same thing. The only two that I think succeeded 279 00:11:55,624 --> 00:11:58,944 Speaker 2: in that is Nikola Coughlin and Luke Newton for Bridgeton 280 00:11:59,024 --> 00:11:59,544 Speaker 2: season three. 281 00:11:59,744 --> 00:12:03,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was very foolishly executed because people loved the 282 00:12:03,184 --> 00:12:06,704 Speaker 1: idea of them being together his girlfriend until I know, 283 00:12:06,704 --> 00:12:08,984 Speaker 1: but like the day the press, who ended there she 284 00:12:09,224 --> 00:12:12,704 Speaker 1: was and she stole Yeah, So but I think that 285 00:12:12,744 --> 00:12:15,264 Speaker 1: like no one ever really thought they were together. So again, 286 00:12:15,304 --> 00:12:18,304 Speaker 1: it's that fine line we always talk about of getting 287 00:12:18,344 --> 00:12:21,144 Speaker 1: the audience invested in your chemistry but not actually starting 288 00:12:21,264 --> 00:12:23,664 Speaker 1: enough rumors that you break up a relationship. What a 289 00:12:23,704 --> 00:12:26,144 Speaker 1: fine line. Anyway, Lady Gargar seems very happy and we're 290 00:12:26,224 --> 00:12:28,184 Speaker 1: very happy for her. How much to say I engagement ring. 291 00:12:28,384 --> 00:12:41,064 Speaker 2: Nana Pop singer Chapel Rone has said that she's taking 292 00:12:41,104 --> 00:12:45,304 Speaker 2: a step back due to people stalking her and her family. 293 00:12:46,104 --> 00:12:49,784 Speaker 2: So speaking on the podcast The Common Section with Drew Afaualo, 294 00:12:49,944 --> 00:12:53,144 Speaker 2: she said, people have started to be freaks. They follow me, 295 00:12:53,304 --> 00:12:55,184 Speaker 2: or they know where my parents live and where my 296 00:12:55,224 --> 00:12:58,784 Speaker 2: sister works, all this weird shit. She also said that 297 00:12:58,824 --> 00:13:01,104 Speaker 2: in the past, she declared that if she ever felt 298 00:13:01,104 --> 00:13:04,024 Speaker 2: like her family was in danger from stalking, then she 299 00:13:04,064 --> 00:13:06,784 Speaker 2: would quit music. And she was saying that this is 300 00:13:06,864 --> 00:13:09,264 Speaker 2: kind of where she's at right now, but she hasn't 301 00:13:09,264 --> 00:13:11,784 Speaker 2: actually confirmed she's quitting me, but she did say that 302 00:13:11,904 --> 00:13:15,144 Speaker 2: she is like pausing. I was actually quite shocked hearing 303 00:13:15,184 --> 00:13:17,584 Speaker 2: the story because we have talked about Chapel roone on 304 00:13:17,584 --> 00:13:19,704 Speaker 2: the podcast before. She's been around for a long time, 305 00:13:19,984 --> 00:13:22,424 Speaker 2: but she really kind of shot into stardom into the 306 00:13:22,464 --> 00:13:25,584 Speaker 2: spotlight around I would say late last year early this 307 00:13:25,744 --> 00:13:28,824 Speaker 2: year for her tagline your favorite artist's favorite Artists. Yeah, 308 00:13:28,864 --> 00:13:32,184 Speaker 2: and we've heard this story so many times, like literally 309 00:13:32,224 --> 00:13:36,184 Speaker 2: across centuries, like Taylor Swift being stalked. We've heard Britney 310 00:13:36,184 --> 00:13:39,384 Speaker 2: Spears being stalked, Marilyn Monroe's being stalked, And it's the 311 00:13:39,464 --> 00:13:42,584 Speaker 2: same narrative where these women, these famous women get stalked. 312 00:13:42,584 --> 00:13:46,424 Speaker 2: They're in these really dangerous situations. They speak publicly about 313 00:13:46,504 --> 00:13:49,224 Speaker 2: what it's like being stalked. Everyone's like, oh my god, 314 00:13:49,224 --> 00:13:50,904 Speaker 2: that's so messed up that people are stalking them, and 315 00:13:50,944 --> 00:13:52,864 Speaker 2: then they keep doing it. And the fact that this 316 00:13:52,984 --> 00:13:55,664 Speaker 2: star who's been brought up in twenty twenty three, twenty 317 00:13:55,744 --> 00:13:58,624 Speaker 2: twenty four, the same thing is happening. It's like we 318 00:13:58,664 --> 00:14:00,664 Speaker 2: wait for them to have to say something, for us 319 00:14:00,704 --> 00:14:02,664 Speaker 2: to be like, that's so messed up, but then nothing 320 00:14:02,744 --> 00:14:03,744 Speaker 2: changes for the next star. 321 00:14:04,184 --> 00:14:06,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting, especially with the timing. I know 322 00:14:06,824 --> 00:14:09,384 Speaker 1: that anyone who has a huge public profile is open 323 00:14:09,464 --> 00:14:12,344 Speaker 1: to like this level of harassment and stalking unfortunately. And 324 00:14:12,384 --> 00:14:14,584 Speaker 1: I know that Chapel Rone has been such a fan 325 00:14:14,704 --> 00:14:17,424 Speaker 1: favorite for such a long time, Like it's the first 326 00:14:17,464 --> 00:14:18,744 Speaker 1: time I heard of her was a few years ago 327 00:14:18,744 --> 00:14:21,984 Speaker 1: because my sister was blasting her music on repeating her 328 00:14:21,984 --> 00:14:23,984 Speaker 1: and her friends would have like Chapel Roane sing a 329 00:14:23,984 --> 00:14:26,664 Speaker 1: long parties, Like that's how intense that fandom is. The 330 00:14:26,664 --> 00:14:28,504 Speaker 1: difference there is that, as far as I know, none 331 00:14:28,544 --> 00:14:31,024 Speaker 1: of them went and stalked her family and found it 332 00:14:31,064 --> 00:14:33,424 Speaker 1: where they worked and lived. And it's such an intense thing. 333 00:14:33,424 --> 00:14:35,224 Speaker 1: Because I was having this conversation with some people in 334 00:14:35,224 --> 00:14:38,064 Speaker 1: the office recently, is that I am such a huge 335 00:14:38,064 --> 00:14:40,504 Speaker 1: fandom person. Like when I love something, I love it 336 00:14:40,704 --> 00:14:44,184 Speaker 1: so intensely and I become obsessed with it, especially around 337 00:14:44,224 --> 00:14:46,384 Speaker 1: like actors and singers and pop culture and that sort 338 00:14:46,384 --> 00:14:49,584 Speaker 1: of thing. But I have never once had the urge 339 00:14:49,624 --> 00:14:52,624 Speaker 1: to even go and like leave like a bad comment 340 00:14:52,704 --> 00:14:55,384 Speaker 1: against someone I think has wronged them, or like search 341 00:14:55,464 --> 00:14:57,264 Speaker 1: their address or something. So I don't know what this 342 00:14:57,344 --> 00:15:00,624 Speaker 1: kind of tipping point is of having this intense love 343 00:15:00,664 --> 00:15:03,624 Speaker 1: of something. And yes, I understand people who go and 344 00:15:03,664 --> 00:15:05,544 Speaker 1: stand outside. I mean I don't personally understand it, because 345 00:15:05,544 --> 00:15:07,304 Speaker 1: there's no one I would stand the sun for for hours, 346 00:15:07,344 --> 00:15:09,424 Speaker 1: no matter how much I love them. But I do 347 00:15:09,544 --> 00:15:11,984 Speaker 1: kind of almost underst stand people who go and stand 348 00:15:12,544 --> 00:15:15,784 Speaker 1: outside for hours at hotels or events just to catch 349 00:15:15,784 --> 00:15:18,064 Speaker 1: a glimpse of someone, because you just want to see 350 00:15:18,064 --> 00:15:19,864 Speaker 1: the person you love. But it's such a different thing 351 00:15:20,304 --> 00:15:23,304 Speaker 1: to track down their sister. Yeah, at the place of 352 00:15:23,304 --> 00:15:24,864 Speaker 1: her work, Like, what do you think is gonna happen? 353 00:15:24,904 --> 00:15:26,824 Speaker 1: You're going to go in there, let it slip that 354 00:15:26,864 --> 00:15:28,864 Speaker 1: you've stalked her and that she's going to introduce you 355 00:15:28,904 --> 00:15:30,424 Speaker 1: to her famous sister, and you're all going to go 356 00:15:30,464 --> 00:15:31,664 Speaker 1: get a margarita or something. 357 00:15:31,824 --> 00:15:34,344 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people build up this massive narrative in 358 00:15:34,384 --> 00:15:36,984 Speaker 2: their head. What I find interesting is how she's publicly 359 00:15:37,024 --> 00:15:39,984 Speaker 2: said that she would quit music if it ever got 360 00:15:40,024 --> 00:15:42,504 Speaker 2: really dangerous. And I was talking to a few girls 361 00:15:42,544 --> 00:15:45,224 Speaker 2: in the office who are big Chapel Roone fans, and 362 00:15:45,624 --> 00:15:49,104 Speaker 2: they all agreed that for someone of her level of fame, 363 00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:52,264 Speaker 2: it's too late to say that you're quitting music, Like 364 00:15:52,264 --> 00:15:55,064 Speaker 2: the stalking won't ever stop. And I have a feeling 365 00:15:55,144 --> 00:15:58,384 Speaker 2: Chapel knows that. So is her way of saying I'll 366 00:15:58,424 --> 00:16:00,664 Speaker 2: quit music as like a threat to her fan saying 367 00:16:00,704 --> 00:16:02,504 Speaker 2: if you don't stop this, I'll actually. 368 00:16:02,224 --> 00:16:04,904 Speaker 1: Leave, I mean potentially, And also if she's probably not 369 00:16:04,904 --> 00:16:06,704 Speaker 1: going to quit music or stop touring, but what it 370 00:16:06,784 --> 00:16:09,064 Speaker 1: might stop her doing is like going out to those 371 00:16:09,104 --> 00:16:11,624 Speaker 1: fan lines to greet people, or going out on her 372 00:16:11,704 --> 00:16:13,704 Speaker 1: days off to like shopping centers and stuff and all 373 00:16:13,704 --> 00:16:15,584 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I think it's a different thing 374 00:16:15,624 --> 00:16:17,544 Speaker 1: of that idea of I might get mobbed by some 375 00:16:17,584 --> 00:16:20,264 Speaker 1: screaming women who wants selfies with me. And also that's 376 00:16:20,264 --> 00:16:23,104 Speaker 1: the thing because selfie has become so much currency, and 377 00:16:23,144 --> 00:16:24,624 Speaker 1: we see it now and we go to events, like 378 00:16:24,664 --> 00:16:27,184 Speaker 1: the person who's like the famous person will like walk 379 00:16:27,184 --> 00:16:28,944 Speaker 1: into a crowd, And it used to be people be 380 00:16:29,024 --> 00:16:30,544 Speaker 1: like would like look them in the eye and kind 381 00:16:30,544 --> 00:16:31,784 Speaker 1: of be like, I love you, and they might get 382 00:16:31,784 --> 00:16:34,144 Speaker 1: really intense with they're talking to them. Now, what I 383 00:16:34,184 --> 00:16:37,424 Speaker 1: always see is people lean up and grab a celebrity 384 00:16:37,464 --> 00:16:39,584 Speaker 1: like Chapel Roane and like stick the camera in their 385 00:16:39,624 --> 00:16:42,144 Speaker 1: face and like take all these photos. And it's like 386 00:16:42,224 --> 00:16:44,024 Speaker 1: you're kind of a creature in a zoo that you've 387 00:16:44,024 --> 00:16:46,664 Speaker 1: picked up for a photo op. Like they don't even 388 00:16:46,944 --> 00:16:48,784 Speaker 1: like you love this person so much, and you haven't 389 00:16:48,824 --> 00:16:51,024 Speaker 1: even said hello to them or said like one thing 390 00:16:51,024 --> 00:16:53,184 Speaker 1: about their music. It's like you just want the selfie 391 00:16:53,344 --> 00:16:55,664 Speaker 1: so you can post on Instagram and there's no interaction. 392 00:16:55,904 --> 00:16:58,184 Speaker 2: The selfie is never for the person who takes it either. 393 00:16:58,224 --> 00:17:00,344 Speaker 2: It's for the people who follow that person who takes 394 00:17:00,384 --> 00:17:02,944 Speaker 2: the photo, whereas before when we had like digital cameras 395 00:17:03,144 --> 00:17:05,584 Speaker 2: or when we just wanted an autograph, like that was 396 00:17:05,624 --> 00:17:07,784 Speaker 2: a fan who actually just wanted it because. 397 00:17:07,544 --> 00:17:08,864 Speaker 1: That was for you. You couldn't do anything. 398 00:17:08,944 --> 00:17:09,984 Speaker 2: It was for you to keep. 399 00:17:10,384 --> 00:17:12,544 Speaker 1: Could sell it to make a profit if you're really 400 00:17:12,584 --> 00:17:13,024 Speaker 1: into it. 401 00:17:13,264 --> 00:17:16,064 Speaker 2: But I feel like the fan base has changed so 402 00:17:16,184 --> 00:17:19,304 Speaker 2: much because even someone who maybe like you're not a 403 00:17:19,304 --> 00:17:21,184 Speaker 2: big fan of but you hear that they are in 404 00:17:21,224 --> 00:17:23,064 Speaker 2: the cafe next to you, of course you're going to 405 00:17:23,144 --> 00:17:24,504 Speaker 2: run over. You'd be like, I want to see that 406 00:17:24,544 --> 00:17:26,904 Speaker 2: person Like Kaylor Swift. I didn't go to a concert, 407 00:17:26,904 --> 00:17:29,744 Speaker 2: obviously a fan, not a massive fan, but she I 408 00:17:29,744 --> 00:17:31,744 Speaker 2: haven't talked her, but she was at my favorite restaurant 409 00:17:32,064 --> 00:17:33,464 Speaker 2: and I was like, if I was there, I would 410 00:17:33,504 --> 00:17:35,144 Speaker 2: have one hundred percent try to get a photo of her. 411 00:17:35,304 --> 00:17:37,104 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there's so many celebrities, as they said, 412 00:17:37,104 --> 00:17:39,624 Speaker 1: I'm a thangle, so many celebrities I love, But I 413 00:17:39,664 --> 00:17:42,544 Speaker 1: have never once tried to track one down, even sent 414 00:17:42,664 --> 00:17:44,904 Speaker 1: a crazy message like I know people send, but have 415 00:17:44,904 --> 00:17:46,224 Speaker 1: have you done that? I have? 416 00:17:46,704 --> 00:17:49,184 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were going to say I have 417 00:17:49,344 --> 00:17:50,944 Speaker 2: done it. I'm just gonna show you. 418 00:17:51,064 --> 00:17:52,584 Speaker 1: Oh, you show me if you got it, you didn't 419 00:17:52,624 --> 00:17:54,224 Speaker 1: undersend it when you sober it up the next day. 420 00:17:54,264 --> 00:17:54,944 Speaker 1: But were you drunk? 421 00:17:55,224 --> 00:17:57,944 Speaker 2: I was drunk? Oh okay on both occasions. I mean, 422 00:17:58,384 --> 00:17:59,144 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna. 423 00:17:58,904 --> 00:18:00,944 Speaker 1: That's what that un send buttons for and show you 424 00:18:00,984 --> 00:18:02,704 Speaker 1: this so you can read it out. Oh my god, 425 00:18:02,784 --> 00:18:07,184 Speaker 1: post malone, thank you for being you. That's on the 426 00:18:07,224 --> 00:18:10,144 Speaker 1: twelve October twenty eighteen. I guess you're a child then, 427 00:18:10,584 --> 00:18:13,064 Speaker 1: And then eighth of May twenty nineteen, you want to win. 428 00:18:13,184 --> 00:18:13,984 Speaker 1: Good job tonight. 429 00:18:14,104 --> 00:18:15,544 Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you see his concept? 430 00:18:16,624 --> 00:18:19,464 Speaker 1: I assure you, well, at least that's not I know 431 00:18:19,504 --> 00:18:21,624 Speaker 1: where you live, yeah no, and I know where you're 432 00:18:21,624 --> 00:18:22,184 Speaker 1: fair live. 433 00:18:22,504 --> 00:18:24,904 Speaker 2: I also, again, when I get drunk, I comment on 434 00:18:24,984 --> 00:18:26,264 Speaker 2: the Royal Family Instagram. 435 00:18:26,464 --> 00:18:27,744 Speaker 1: I've seen you do that before. 436 00:18:28,064 --> 00:18:30,624 Speaker 2: It's annoying because Instagram does a stupid thing. Whereas like, 437 00:18:30,664 --> 00:18:33,504 Speaker 2: if my friends who follow me follow the Royal Family, 438 00:18:33,824 --> 00:18:35,344 Speaker 2: my comments the first one they see. 439 00:18:35,464 --> 00:18:37,504 Speaker 1: That's how I mean. I don't really follow the Royal Family, 440 00:18:37,544 --> 00:18:39,264 Speaker 1: but a few times I have said, what did you 441 00:18:39,464 --> 00:18:41,544 Speaker 1: say the queen? That was a big one for you? Right? 442 00:18:41,584 --> 00:18:42,664 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, I feel lost. 443 00:18:42,824 --> 00:18:46,664 Speaker 2: I'd say stuff like, oh, happy anniversary, so proud to 444 00:18:46,664 --> 00:18:48,664 Speaker 2: be part of the Commonwealth, which I'm not at all, 445 00:18:48,984 --> 00:18:52,464 Speaker 2: absolutely not. And then they post like these throwback photters 446 00:18:52,504 --> 00:18:54,664 Speaker 2: of her and I was like, oh, she was so stunning. 447 00:18:54,464 --> 00:18:56,664 Speaker 1: And what's your goal of writing that, Like, are you 448 00:18:56,704 --> 00:18:58,424 Speaker 1: hoping the Queen sees it or you just want it 449 00:18:58,424 --> 00:19:01,304 Speaker 1: on the record of like history that you Emily Vernon 450 00:19:01,424 --> 00:19:03,024 Speaker 1: wish the queen happy anniversary. 451 00:19:03,184 --> 00:19:05,344 Speaker 2: I just like have so much love in me when 452 00:19:05,384 --> 00:19:07,464 Speaker 2: I'm a bit tipsy, and that's where it goes so well. 453 00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:09,824 Speaker 2: I first comment and reply to all of my friends 454 00:19:09,904 --> 00:19:11,984 Speaker 2: Instagram stories. Yeah, and then when I'm done. 455 00:19:11,784 --> 00:19:13,784 Speaker 1: With it, I've never got a reply, but when I'm okay, 456 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:14,424 Speaker 1: wait for it. 457 00:19:14,584 --> 00:19:16,504 Speaker 2: When I'm done with that, like then I have to 458 00:19:16,504 --> 00:19:18,624 Speaker 2: move on to the feed, and like the first photos 459 00:19:18,624 --> 00:19:19,944 Speaker 2: on my feet are the first ones I get the 460 00:19:19,944 --> 00:19:24,344 Speaker 2: com comment. Well, when we talk about fans, we're actually 461 00:19:24,344 --> 00:19:26,864 Speaker 2: talking about more than just fans. We're talking about people 462 00:19:26,904 --> 00:19:29,264 Speaker 2: who also just know you're famous and they can show 463 00:19:29,304 --> 00:19:30,544 Speaker 2: that they've seen you in public. 464 00:19:30,704 --> 00:19:32,624 Speaker 1: And the thing is it's you have the two extremes, 465 00:19:32,624 --> 00:19:34,984 Speaker 1: and one of them is someone like a Taylor Switto 466 00:19:35,024 --> 00:19:38,504 Speaker 1: and now Chapel Roone who has that physical threat around 467 00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:42,184 Speaker 1: them at all times. I mean, Taylor Swift's bodyguards carry 468 00:19:42,344 --> 00:19:45,264 Speaker 1: like enough medical supplies like patch, a certain amount of 469 00:19:45,264 --> 00:19:47,184 Speaker 1: bullet rooms and stuff like that. And she's like, that's 470 00:19:47,224 --> 00:19:49,904 Speaker 1: just the reality of me going outside. And I don't 471 00:19:49,944 --> 00:19:51,864 Speaker 1: think Chapel Roon's kind at that stage yet, but she 472 00:19:51,904 --> 00:19:54,224 Speaker 1: would not be able to walk into some spaces. But 473 00:19:54,264 --> 00:19:57,504 Speaker 1: then you also have the online element of flooding your dms, 474 00:19:57,584 --> 00:20:00,384 Speaker 1: posting things, taking videos of like you in different places, 475 00:20:00,384 --> 00:20:03,304 Speaker 1: and always knowing that no matter what you do, it's 476 00:20:03,344 --> 00:20:05,784 Speaker 1: going to be put online and be like criticized or 477 00:20:05,784 --> 00:20:07,464 Speaker 1: even just people knowing who you are. Like I can't 478 00:20:07,464 --> 00:20:09,664 Speaker 1: of imagine living like that. I had it once where 479 00:20:09,664 --> 00:20:11,584 Speaker 1: I was at a and like I was walking home 480 00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:14,264 Speaker 1: afterwards and I opened I had this message request and 481 00:20:14,304 --> 00:20:16,304 Speaker 1: it was from a Spillo, who I'm sure is lovely, 482 00:20:16,344 --> 00:20:17,784 Speaker 1: and I was in no way freaked out by her, 483 00:20:17,784 --> 00:20:19,144 Speaker 1: but she'd taken a photo of my friend and I 484 00:20:19,144 --> 00:20:20,584 Speaker 1: are dinner, and she's like, I don't want to come 485 00:20:20,624 --> 00:20:22,184 Speaker 1: over and bother you, but I just I love you, 486 00:20:22,224 --> 00:20:24,024 Speaker 1: and I love the podcast. I love your writing so much. 487 00:20:24,264 --> 00:20:28,744 Speaker 1: Like halfway with it, I I was, and she was like, 488 00:20:28,744 --> 00:20:30,104 Speaker 1: oh so I just wanted to say that I was there. 489 00:20:30,144 --> 00:20:31,264 Speaker 1: I took this pick of you, and I was like, 490 00:20:31,544 --> 00:20:33,024 Speaker 1: you took a pic of me and I didn't know 491 00:20:33,104 --> 00:20:35,344 Speaker 1: and sent it to me and instead of just coming 492 00:20:35,384 --> 00:20:38,104 Speaker 1: over and saying hello, which is the weirdest I don't know, 493 00:20:38,184 --> 00:20:40,624 Speaker 1: but obviously that's like a time. Yeah, I was in 494 00:20:40,664 --> 00:20:42,664 Speaker 1: no way and fearful of my life. I was like, literally, 495 00:20:42,664 --> 00:20:44,024 Speaker 1: no one in this street knows who I am or 496 00:20:44,024 --> 00:20:45,904 Speaker 1: cares about me. But it's one of those things I 497 00:20:45,944 --> 00:20:48,264 Speaker 1: can just imagine if you had that cranked up by 498 00:20:48,544 --> 00:20:51,384 Speaker 1: two thousand, like Chapel Rone would have. Yeah, she's been 499 00:20:51,504 --> 00:20:53,184 Speaker 1: famous for a very long time, but this is the 500 00:20:53,184 --> 00:20:56,384 Speaker 1: first year she's really come into like more worldwide fame. 501 00:20:56,784 --> 00:20:59,264 Speaker 1: It feels like early days for her family to being 502 00:20:59,304 --> 00:21:01,864 Speaker 1: stalked so intensely. But I guess see you move that 503 00:21:01,984 --> 00:21:03,544 Speaker 1: quick nowadays. 504 00:21:02,984 --> 00:21:05,104 Speaker 2: And especially what you were saying about Taylor Swift and 505 00:21:05,144 --> 00:21:07,984 Speaker 2: her bodyguard, I think it's actually more scary for Chapel 506 00:21:08,024 --> 00:21:10,304 Speaker 2: Rone now than it is for Taylor Swift, because chapel 507 00:21:10,664 --> 00:21:13,864 Speaker 2: has been like suddenly so famous, but she doesn't have 508 00:21:13,904 --> 00:21:16,864 Speaker 2: the finances to fund her safety the same way. 509 00:21:17,584 --> 00:21:20,944 Speaker 1: Like tailors Off knows she steps outside, she has security 510 00:21:20,944 --> 00:21:23,264 Speaker 1: guards around her at all times. The first aide kid, Yeah, 511 00:21:23,304 --> 00:21:26,504 Speaker 1: there's a Finally, there's a finely honed machine working around 512 00:21:26,544 --> 00:21:28,664 Speaker 1: her at all times, which would feel respective at least 513 00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:30,304 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, when you go out, there's a 514 00:21:30,344 --> 00:21:33,944 Speaker 1: whole game plan around keeping you safe, Whereas exactly like Chapelone, 515 00:21:33,944 --> 00:21:35,704 Speaker 1: she probably feels at the stage of her career that 516 00:21:35,744 --> 00:21:39,624 Speaker 1: it's overkilled to take two security guards to the grocery store. 517 00:21:39,624 --> 00:21:41,304 Speaker 1: But it sounds like that's where she's at now. So 518 00:21:41,504 --> 00:21:43,344 Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't affect her, because I feel like 519 00:21:43,344 --> 00:21:45,864 Speaker 1: now she's coming into this new level of fame, all 520 00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:47,664 Speaker 1: those songs that people have loved for so long, she 521 00:21:47,664 --> 00:21:50,144 Speaker 1: can be playing in stadiums and like fans getting to 522 00:21:50,144 --> 00:21:51,904 Speaker 1: see her life for the first time, and I hope 523 00:21:51,904 --> 00:21:54,784 Speaker 1: that doesn't get taken away by this craziness of people 524 00:21:54,784 --> 00:21:55,664 Speaker 1: stalking her family. 525 00:21:56,104 --> 00:21:57,984 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 526 00:21:58,024 --> 00:21:59,784 Speaker 2: If you want more content and want to know more 527 00:21:59,824 --> 00:22:02,384 Speaker 2: about Chapel Roone, we actually did an episode on her 528 00:22:02,744 --> 00:22:05,424 Speaker 2: as she was like becoming famous. It's a little deep 529 00:22:05,464 --> 00:22:06,864 Speaker 2: dive for you to go listen to it. We will 530 00:22:06,904 --> 00:22:09,064 Speaker 2: link that in our show notes. We will see you 531 00:22:09,104 --> 00:22:15,144 Speaker 2: back here in your podcast feed three pm bur Bye Bye.