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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to No Filter. I'm Laura Brednick, and
Speaker 1: today we're sitting down with Perry Edwards, chart topping singer, performer, mother,
Speaker 1: and now finally a solo artist. Perry has lived many
Speaker 1: lives from global pop stard and with Little Mix to
Speaker 1: navigating heartbreak and motherhood in the public eye. But now
Speaker 1: she's stepping into something new, a solo career that's deeply
Speaker 1: personal and entirely her own. In this conversation, Perry opens
Speaker 1: up about the pressure of going solo after years of
Speaker 1: success with one of the biggest girl groups in the world,
Speaker 1: the heartbreak behind her first solo Forget About Us, and
Speaker 1: how becoming a mother shifted everything. She talks honestly about
Speaker 1: her decade long relationship with footballer Alex Oxford Chamberlain, the
Speaker 1: quiet grief of pregnancy loss, and the challenge of carving
Speaker 1: out her own space away from the spotlight. With her
Speaker 1: debut solo album coming out tomorrow and another baby on
Speaker 1: the way, she's stepping into a whole new chapter both
Speaker 1: personally and professionally. This is a conversation about what happens
Speaker 1: when you stop trying to please everyone else and finally
Speaker 1: make something just for you. Here is Perry Edwards. Well, Perry, Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to No Filter. Hello. So I opened my
Speaker 1: Instagram app over the weekend and I was greeted with
Speaker 1: some really beautiful news from you, announcing your pregnancy and
Speaker 1: in this moment of going through that huge life moment
Speaker 1: and you're about to release your debut album and the
Speaker 1: build up to that. How are you doing in this
Speaker 1: moment with these two huge monumental events happening at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Okay, there's a lot going on, but it's
Speaker 2: kind of just like really exciting. I feel like there's
Speaker 2: just so much going on in a great way, and
Speaker 2: it's everything. I love. Babies and music.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, the two joyful things in life.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Was there a decision to sort of put that news
Speaker 1: out there in the lead up to the album because
Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of press or do you just
Speaker 1: feel like the right moment. What do you kind of
Speaker 1: thinking around that being on such a public platform.
Speaker 4: I think it was just the right time. And I said,
Speaker 4: from like the beginning, you know, I spoke.
Speaker 2: To all the doctors and all the specialists, and.
Speaker 4: We all kind of come to an agreement that it
Speaker 4: would be best to share the news after like the
Speaker 4: scans all went okay and everything was fine.
Speaker 2: And then also I'm just I'm a bit bored of
Speaker 2: height in it now.
Speaker 1: Yes, because I conceive doing a lot of performances and things,
Speaker 1: and I guess you have to be very strategic of
Speaker 1: hiding it in that moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so annoying, Like the outfits are not necessarily
Speaker 4: what I want to wear, but they cover the bump
Speaker 4: the best. And it's like there's been a lot of
Speaker 4: a lot of that going on behind the scenes that
Speaker 4: I'm really tired of now. So I'm like, just free.
Speaker 1: Bump, because free to bump in that day, we love
Speaker 1: it. It's well leading up into this moment of your debut
Speaker 1: release and seeing the excitement around the anticipation from fans
Speaker 1: and you're doing these performances. I want to sort of
Speaker 1: take you back to I guess young Perry and what
Speaker 1: she would have made of this huge success. Was this
Speaker 1: something that when you were growing up and singing. I
Speaker 1: know both your parents are into music. Is this something
Speaker 1: that you ever pictured for yourself?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 4: I think I pictured it differently, but I always pictured singing.
Speaker 4: So I knew singing was like my thing and it's
Speaker 4: what I wanted to do. But I didn't think i'd
Speaker 4: get this lucky in life and naturally be living out
Speaker 4: my dream, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: But whenever I go through things, when I meet certain people.
Speaker 2: I met Anastasia the other day, Oh wow, And she
Speaker 2: was like one of my biggest idols grown up as
Speaker 2: a little girl, and.
Speaker 4: I used to listen to her album constantly on repeat
Speaker 4: in the car. And then I met up with her
Speaker 4: and we exchange numbers and we're like chatting, and I'm like, obviously,
Speaker 4: I'm just like, oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 2: But Little Perry would she would die if she knew she.
Speaker 4: Was like messaging the Anastasia and she'd be freaking the
Speaker 4: hell out. So I think there is times in my
Speaker 4: career and in my life that I sit back and
Speaker 4: I think, WHOA, this is wild.
Speaker 1: It's always the people that you loved as you were
Speaker 1: growing up that I don't I met you. But I meet
Speaker 1: so many celebrities in this line of work, and it's
Speaker 1: always the people that I loved growing up that I
Speaker 1: get the most star struck around. I guess because they've
Speaker 1: been with you the longest.
Speaker 2: I think that's what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there's so many people that I could meet
Speaker 4: and I'd be like, oh, that's so cool. But you're
Speaker 4: right when you're a kid and you grow up looking
Speaker 4: at this person and you think they're all like untouchable
Speaker 4: and just incredible, and then you kind of meet up
Speaker 4: with them.
Speaker 2: When you're alder like that. That is weird, but in
Speaker 2: the best way.
Speaker 1: Oh. Just think of all the people that you watched
Speaker 1: growing up who were probably at this moment singing along
Speaker 1: to your music in the car or putting it on
Speaker 1: to get ready in the background like that the most
Speaker 1: surreal feeling. Were you always the kid who was singing
Speaker 1: around home or wanting to be in the school musicals?
Speaker 1: Like what was that moment if you like of sort
Speaker 1: of finding your voice at a young age.
Speaker 4: I would sing constantly, so I was constantly humming or
Speaker 4: constantly singing, or you know, spending hours and hours in
Speaker 4: my bedroom singing. But I would never really do it publicly.
Speaker 4: I wasn't the type to like want to be in
Speaker 4: the school plays, someone to audition for things. That kind
Speaker 4: of really used to terrify me. So I didn't really
Speaker 4: start singing publicly till I was about fifteen.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Oh wow, that's so interesting to think of now
Speaker 1: as like you know where you are now and sort
Speaker 1: of was it a bit of a looking back now
Speaker 1: as an adult looking back on it as a teenager,
Speaker 1: was it a bit of almost stage fright or anxiety
Speaker 1: or was it just not your place at that day?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, gosha, know I was terrified. I just didn't
Speaker 4: want to do it. I knew I could sing, and
Speaker 4: I loved singing, but doing it in front.
Speaker 2: Of people would just make me feel sick. So I
Speaker 2: was just terrified to do anything like that. It took
Speaker 2: me a while to get the confidence.
Speaker 4: I think doing like performing art at college really helped
Speaker 4: me come out my shell a lot, because everybody in
Speaker 4: the room was just so big and like over the
Speaker 4: top and like animated then the best way, and I
Speaker 4: was just the opposite of that. So I think they
Speaker 4: kind of brought me out my shell a lot on that,
Speaker 4: and we did loads of shows and things like that,
Speaker 4: So I think after that I started to think, oh,
Speaker 4: this is really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that feeling of being on stage would kind of
Speaker 1: trump the anxiety in a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And I've heard you talk many years, because I've been
Speaker 1: a fan for a very very long time of your
Speaker 1: music and everything, and I've heard you talk many many
Speaker 1: times over the years about the beautiful relationship that you
Speaker 1: have with your mother, how close you were growing up,
Speaker 1: and that she was really the one to kind of
Speaker 1: give you a bit of a push into performing. Is
Speaker 1: that right, Like she could see what you were going
Speaker 1: to become.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was always the one trying to push, but
Speaker 2: I was so bit fully shy. I was useless, and
Speaker 2: you'd be like, why can't you just do it? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, God, I'm so scared.
Speaker 4: She's always pushed me, because she's always been my biggest
Speaker 4: chelia down and biggest fun But I suppose when you're
Speaker 4: growing up you just think your mom thinks you're the
Speaker 4: best anyway, the worst singer in the world.
Speaker 2: And my mom could have been like you're amazing.
Speaker 4: I think I didn't fully like support her, you know,
Speaker 4: love for my.
Speaker 2: Voice and everything like that. I was like, nah, you're crazy.
Speaker 4: But then yeah, I think like even now, she's the
Speaker 4: one that still has like expectations and kind of knows
Speaker 4: what I can do and everything like that, whereas I'm
Speaker 4: still a little bit in the same head space.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, she's always been my biggest fan.
Speaker 1: Oh right, do you still get a bit of stage
Speaker 1: fright to this day. I mean as an outsider in
Speaker 1: like watching you perform over the years that it doesn't
Speaker 1: come across that way at all, but you still the
Speaker 1: kind of person who will stay to your mom before
Speaker 1: a big performance, like I don't know if I can
Speaker 1: do this even now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's more like the like releasing things
Speaker 4: and putting things out, and it's all the fear of
Speaker 4: the unknown route, which I think is completely normal because
Speaker 4: I think that would be the same for anybody in
Speaker 4: any kind of line of work that they're in. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I do still get really nervous and I get scared,
Speaker 4: But once I'm on stage, I'm kind of like the
Speaker 4: happiest version of myself, So it's like it's a little
Speaker 4: bit giddy before I get on, but then once someone,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this so what I love.
Speaker 2: So I definitely don't get as nervous now as I
Speaker 2: did when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that is that is good. I guess
Speaker 1: that's one of the lovely things I always say about
Speaker 1: to people who are scared of growing up and getting
Speaker 1: older and like, but you just start to feel more confident,
Speaker 1: things are easier, Like That's the beautiful thing as you
Speaker 1: get older is you do get to be able to
Speaker 1: overcome some of those big fears that you had growing up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, and you just care less as well about
Speaker 4: your opinions. I think you really step into your power
Speaker 4: as you get older. I think you just become like
Speaker 4: the person you want to be, and you're not worried
Speaker 4: about outside noise as much. And I think everything comes
Speaker 4: with age. I think grace, like everything, understanding, it all
Speaker 4: comes with age. So I enjoy getting older because I
Speaker 4: start to give less.
Speaker 1: Fox really is I guess I'm really finding that as well.
Speaker 1: That's why I say to all the younger people in
Speaker 1: this office who were worried about going to her thirties,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's actually lovely because yeah, you
Speaker 1: just feel more confident in yourself. And so I also
Speaker 1: understand that going into that time leading into the X
Speaker 1: Factor auditions, it was your mom that wanted to was
Speaker 1: pushing you to go along. Is that right? Is she
Speaker 1: the one who was sort of like, this is your moment?
Speaker 2: Yes, And I didn't want to go and I'm really embarrassed.
Speaker 4: And I was like, what are friends at school see
Speaker 4: me or like forends at college.
Speaker 2: It's just embarrassing. My mom was like, no, it's not
Speaker 2: and she walked me up in the middle of the
Speaker 2: night and drove me to Glasgow.
Speaker 4: Newcastle auditions were canceled, so I was like, yes, lo
Speaker 4: and behold she comes in. She drags me out of
Speaker 4: ben Off people to Glasgow. So I'm grateful for my
Speaker 4: mom pushing me into it. The time, I was how
Speaker 4: are you doing?
Speaker 2: But now that I'm all that again, now that I'm older,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: She could see the potential, she could see the talent,
Speaker 4: and she just wanted me to kind of succeeds, I guess.
Speaker 2: So now I'm so gread you did it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like we all Your mom are huge debt,
Speaker 1: Like she was really putting in the work behind the
Speaker 1: scenes to get you to be this musician that people
Speaker 1: have loved for so many years. So yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like we know her are quite a big debt for
Speaker 1: what she's done for the while.
Speaker 2: Depths.
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll time debby and going into those early exacted days.
Speaker 1: I know this must seem like a million years away
Speaker 1: too now or maybe it feels like yesterday. I don't
Speaker 1: know how those kind of very vivid memories work. You
Speaker 1: were seventeen at the time, is that correct? In twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: what were your memories of that time of being in
Speaker 1: those audition rooms and being on that stage, and were
Speaker 1: you looking at it as a life changing moment or
Speaker 1: were you looking at with the shyness that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: as something like I just have to get through this
Speaker 1: and then I can go home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think I was, Like my
Speaker 2: mum kept saying to me, like, love.
Speaker 4: If you don't get through and you don't get through
Speaker 4: the auditions, just look at it. It's life experience and
Speaker 4: like this makes you who you are, like as you
Speaker 4: get older and I'm like, oh great, yeah, getting a
Speaker 4: big fat nose going to really shame Well, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: like the majority of the auditions happened before you even
Speaker 4: see the judges. So you have to audition in front
Speaker 4: of like the producers and everything, maybe four or five auditions.
Speaker 4: Then you see the judges, and then you go through
Speaker 4: like the whole X factor kind of regimended thing.
Speaker 2: But before that, it was like.
Speaker 4: Audition after audition after audition, and I think I've alsaw
Speaker 4: bord of it, and I was like, Oh, I'm not
Speaker 4: really nervous anymore.
Speaker 2: It's just a bit long, right, And you were there
Speaker 2: for hours all day every day.
Speaker 4: So I think it got to the point where I
Speaker 4: was like making friends there and we were having like
Speaker 4: a laugh and it was like a little deal out
Speaker 4: and I thought, oh, it's quite fun actually, So then
Speaker 4: it just became a bit more of like a a thing.
Speaker 4: And then once it started to get real, then I
Speaker 4: started to think, oh my god, this could actually happen.
Speaker 1: And so initially you were taking other soul auditions and
Speaker 1: then put into a group. Did that sort of help
Speaker 1: with the audition process? Going through that you were standing
Speaker 1: in side by side with these other people, and you
Speaker 1: were guests, got to form your own little safety net
Speaker 1: within this huge kind of what was such a global
Speaker 1: show at the time.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. I got wrung my mom and book
Speaker 4: can't crying my eyes out every day. I was like,
Speaker 4: please pick me up, behaved here, And then my mom
Speaker 4: was like, look, if you're lucky, you'll get put in
Speaker 4: a group.
Speaker 2: And I'll take to think.
Speaker 4: It's just like yeah, because if you think about it,
Speaker 4: like I just said, I was so painfully shy. I
Speaker 4: really performed in front of people before the next fact,
Speaker 4: that was my first kind of big thing that I did.
Speaker 4: So I think having like the girls presiding and being
Speaker 4: put in a group of brow of confidence that I
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily perfect the beginning, So I think it was
Speaker 4: the best thing that could have happened to me, to
Speaker 4: be honest.
Speaker 1: Oh that's such a lovely way to look at it.
Speaker 1: And again going on then to sort of those days
Speaker 1: in Little Mix and the bean blowing up and people
Speaker 1: being so invested in you as a singer, and you're
Speaker 1: doing huge tours and you're doing appearances, and I remember
Speaker 1: looking at the paparazzi videos of the time and all
Speaker 1: just like the fans just dying crying in the streets,
Speaker 1: some of them tears pouring down their faces at seeing
Speaker 1: you and you're at such a young age at that time.
Speaker 1: What do you think when you kind of look back
Speaker 1: on that moment. Were you able to stop in that
Speaker 1: moment and think, Wow, this is incredible or was there
Speaker 1: a certain kind of I guess pressure of then, like
Speaker 1: now we've won. Now there's these expectations, and now we
Speaker 1: have to go and be this successful band that people
Speaker 1: think we're going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was a little bit of both.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, when I look back now, I
Speaker 4: wish we could have kind of lived in the moment
Speaker 4: a lot more, because we did have so much fun,
Speaker 4: Like we had such a laugh, like we topped the meg,
Speaker 4: like we just had the best time. But we worked
Speaker 4: so hard and we were so hard on ourselves to
Speaker 4: become successful and kind of you know, we were told
Speaker 4: several times that go Bunst doing well and little Makes
Speaker 4: doing well, you're not going to make it, And we
Speaker 4: wanted to prove people wrong so much so that we
Speaker 4: kind of run ourselves into the ground a lot of
Speaker 4: the time. And I think like back then it was
Speaker 4: like crazy as well, like you're seeing the funs and
Speaker 4: the paparazzi and everything at the time. But it was
Speaker 4: all just a bit much to take on board in
Speaker 4: the Mormon But when I look back now, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 4: that was wild. Yeah, but it was probably a good
Speaker 4: thing that we were so busy that we didn't really
Speaker 4: have time to pondermics.
Speaker 2: Maybe it would have been a bit much, maybe not.
Speaker 1: Good at that busyness of just like just keep going in.
Speaker 1: But it's always that's always a thing, those big times
Speaker 1: in your life. You always look back afterwards and think, Oh,
Speaker 1: I wish I just enjoyed that more. But I guess
Speaker 1: when you're in it, that's hard to kind of move
Speaker 1: into that. And you talk about also working so much,
Speaker 1: long hours, the tour hours, all those sorts of things.
Speaker 1: But were there moments where you sort of remember enjoying
Speaker 1: that fame for the first time, Like, was there a
Speaker 1: moment where you got a paycheck and you got to
Speaker 1: buy something crazy, because I would have just like run
Speaker 1: to top Shop or something if I was your age,
Speaker 1: or buy something for your fair or where was the
Speaker 1: first moment you got to have like a little bit
Speaker 1: of indulgence off your fame.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I don't know. I think we did like an
Speaker 2: advert on X Factor in his very early days. I
Speaker 2: can't remember what it was for emin s maybe.
Speaker 4: And we did a few different things and we actually
Speaker 4: got paid for those things, right went to the cashpoint
Speaker 4: with my mom and my brother and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, my gosh, there's money in my cat.
Speaker 4: It's like my brother like whacked me on the head
Speaker 4: and he was like, nah, it's more than that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what number is that it was?
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what number.
Speaker 4: It was crazy, but for me, like from humble beginnings,
Speaker 4: I've never seen before in an account. So I was
Speaker 4: freaking out and and my mom and my brother were
Speaker 4: like freaking out in the street, but try not to
Speaker 4: be too much of a thing made people stop and stare.
Speaker 2: And then I remember going to the Apple Store and
Speaker 2: just buying my whole family like laptops.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so nice of you to like spread of
Speaker 1: the wealth around the families start away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt rich. I was like you, it was epic.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2: I'd be grateful for that. It's great.
Speaker 4: And I think like when we did fan events and
Speaker 4: things like that and we got to actually see them
Speaker 4: in the flesh like clause and seeing how much they
Speaker 4: just loved us. It was like, that's when I'd be like, shoot,
Speaker 4: like we're actually doing something amazing here.
Speaker 2: This is wild.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a yeah, that's a beautiful way to look
Speaker 1: at it. And the fans as well, because again, like
Speaker 1: music that you sing along too, especially when you're a teenager,
Speaker 1: and so many of your fans of the time, like
Speaker 1: so many adults, but young girls, like, there's nothing I
Speaker 1: think that really trumps that feeling of falling in love
Speaker 1: with a band for the first time and sleeping out
Speaker 1: for tickets or sleeping out to get into a concert
Speaker 1: and all those kind of things, Like there's nothing that
Speaker 1: kind of I think replaces that feeling. So it must
Speaker 1: be nice to know that you were that for so
Speaker 1: many people.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was the best feoman ever. It was epic.
Speaker 1: After the break, Perry tells us the truth about an
Speaker 1: iconic brit Awards moment and how she pushed back against
Speaker 1: industry pressure to find her voice as a solo artist.
Speaker 1: You were saying before that when you first got into
Speaker 1: the band, there was a bit of talk around girl
Speaker 1: bands not succeeding or being a bit harder to establish,
Speaker 1: and obviously we've seen over the years from so many
Speaker 1: different musicians that that's not true. There's a huge appetite
Speaker 1: for that music. And I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 1: the brit Awards win when you were up on stage
Speaker 1: and as a group you said, the industry is filled
Speaker 1: with like a lot of sexism misogyny, but we've pushed
Speaker 1: through and this win is for all the other girl
Speaker 1: groups out there, and you name some of them. And
Speaker 1: I just think that's like such a powerful moment in
Speaker 1: pop culture across the world. Like that clip still gets
Speaker 1: played across so many social media platforms now and people
Speaker 1: still resonate with it because of how powerful that statement was.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to you now to sort of
Speaker 1: look back on that and be such a history making
Speaker 1: moment but also decide as a group that you were
Speaker 1: going to make it about all the women in the industry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what a Little Mits was always about.
Speaker 4: It wasn't just like we're doing this and this is
Speaker 4: our pack and this is that we just wanted to
Speaker 4: pave the way for other girls, other women in the industry,
Speaker 4: girl bands that came before and after us that we
Speaker 4: thought was so deserv and of winning that award. So
Speaker 4: we just couldn't really comprehend that, and we were like,
Speaker 4: that's just so weird because they were fucking great.
Speaker 2: So that's why we.
Speaker 4: Wanted to kind of shout out, you know that in
Speaker 4: our acceptance speech.
Speaker 2: Just to be like, you all deserve this.
Speaker 4: You got overlooked and it wasn't fair in a very
Speaker 4: male dominant industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's lovely that I think that moment is still
Speaker 1: remembered so strongly around the world. And when you were
Speaker 1: then deciding to move into a solo career and what
Speaker 1: you wanted those sounds to look like, but also at
Speaker 1: the same time, you're coming off this huge career and
Speaker 1: this huge worldwide fame. Was there any part of you
Speaker 1: that thought, like, oh, I don't I don't have to
Speaker 1: go into a solo career. That's not what I want
Speaker 1: to do. I want to give myself a rest or.
Speaker 1: Did you sort of come into that mindset of being like,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do and this is
Speaker 1: what I want my sound to be as a solo artist.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I kind of did get to a little
Speaker 4: bit of a crossroads where I.
Speaker 2: Was like do I do it? Do I not?
Speaker 4: I think I kind of owed it to myself to
Speaker 4: do it because it's something that I love. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, I was like, oh, I know the industry,
Speaker 4: I know how hard it is, and this.
Speaker 2: Is completely different now even to what it.
Speaker 4: Was back then, and I think part of me was
Speaker 4: a bit like should I even do it?
Speaker 2: And that wasn't because of laziness.
Speaker 4: I was just because I thought, is it something that's
Speaker 4: going to actually make me happy? And then I think
Speaker 4: when I started making music and being in the studio,
Speaker 4: I thought, no, this is like, this is what I
Speaker 4: just love to do.
Speaker 2: I just love singing.
Speaker 4: So I think any opportunity where I can be on
Speaker 4: the stage and be performing and get that adrenaline rush
Speaker 4: and like all that stuff that comes with been a singer,
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to give it a go and
Speaker 2: just see see what happens, yes.
Speaker 1: And just sing. And I guess know that like old fans,
Speaker 1: new fans would all sort of be there to hear
Speaker 1: the new material that you were releasing and would be
Speaker 1: excited to hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Coming into twenty twenty four, you released a single Forget
Speaker 1: about Us. Switch is such a banger, one of the
Speaker 1: ones I sing along to in the car quite a
Speaker 1: bit myself, And you've said about that that it's about
Speaker 1: past relationships and looking back on what worked and what
Speaker 1: didn't and where you are now. How do you go
Speaker 1: on the process of sort of looking back on all
Speaker 1: these past relationships and feelings and then picking out the
Speaker 1: moments that you want to put into a song. What
Speaker 1: is that process like, because I guess from an outsider's perspective,
Speaker 1: it just looks like so many different feelings and thoughts
Speaker 1: to distill down into this song that you want to
Speaker 1: put out into the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's different every time. With that one,
Speaker 2: it was you know, it was written by a cheer
Speaker 2: and it felt like a big pop song.
Speaker 4: And it just really big and I loved the sound
Speaker 4: of it, and I love the viber bit and at
Speaker 4: the time I didn't have the first single or what
Speaker 4: I thought my first single, and I think concept wise,
Speaker 4: I liked that it was just relatable.
Speaker 2: I feel like so many.
Speaker 4: People go through life where they have relationships with people
Speaker 4: that didn't work because it was wrong person or wrong
Speaker 4: time or whatever the circumstances are. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: it happened and it's part of your life and it's
Speaker 4: kind of it makes you who you are.
Speaker 2: When you're old at kind of shoot you as a person,
Speaker 2: and there's.
Speaker 4: Such huge impactful moments in your life that I kind
Speaker 4: of thought, like, Yeah, you don't want to forget that
Speaker 4: it happened.
Speaker 2: Of course it didn't work, but do I want to
Speaker 2: be there?
Speaker 3: No, not that person techno, but it happened, and I'm
Speaker 3: so grateful for the life experiences.
Speaker 4: Just everything about it. So I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 4: to forget that it happened. I'm actually glad it happened,
Speaker 4: whether it was good or bad. So I think that's
Speaker 4: kind of the concept around that song, and that's why
Speaker 4: I loved it so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really brilliatable take. I think that idea
Speaker 1: of like you have looking back on your past paint
Speaker 1: and again that whole thing saying earlier of getting older
Speaker 1: and being able to look back on things with like
Speaker 1: I'm glad that happened, and now I can sort of
Speaker 1: think of it in a different light. It's really powerful.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was reading that you were in the studio working
Speaker 1: on the album, and you had singles and you had music,
Speaker 1: and then you decided to put a little bit of
Speaker 1: a pause and kind of reconfigure a few things. Is
Speaker 1: that right, and sort of look at doing things a
Speaker 1: bit of a different way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I was just like feeling the pressure a
Speaker 4: lot from everybody as well.
Speaker 2: And you come from a group, everyone has such expectations
Speaker 2: of you. You're not a new artist anymore.
Speaker 4: People already know who you are because you're quite established
Speaker 4: from a group. But then when you go solo, if
Speaker 4: you're not doing what people thought or wanted or walked
Speaker 4: you would do, it's almost.
Speaker 2: Like they're just shit all over. It's just like, ah, okay.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of stressful, and I think I just
Speaker 2: got to the point where I was like.
Speaker 4: Right, I don't feel like I'm being truly authentic to myself.
Speaker 4: I don't feel like, you know, I wasn't right in
Speaker 4: the material. It wasn't coming from me. It didn't feel
Speaker 4: that genuine. And I was thinking, no, wonder they think
Speaker 4: this week, because even I think it's much too much.
Speaker 2: I did, So I think I just kind of put
Speaker 2: the brakes on a little bit, had a little bit
Speaker 2: of a.
Speaker 4: Break, went back in the studio with a fresh head,
Speaker 4: took the pressure off, and just thought, right, I have
Speaker 4: what I think is my album can I can I
Speaker 4: do what I would rather do and see where I
Speaker 4: get to.
Speaker 2: And then I think as soon as I did that, there.
Speaker 4: Was just a huge shift in like my creative juices
Speaker 4: and everything like that.
Speaker 2: It just felt so much better.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad I did that because I'm glad I
Speaker 4: stuck to my guns and now my album is saw Me.
Speaker 4: It's so authentic. It's just like from my heart really,
Speaker 4: so I'm just I love it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a That's a very admirable thing to do,
Speaker 1: because I can imagine that when that wheels in motion
Speaker 1: of making an album, there's so many different people involved,
Speaker 1: and you've been talking to different people about album releases
Speaker 1: and musicians and even people in your own life of
Speaker 1: what your schedule looks like. There would be the thought
Speaker 1: that I'll just push on and I'll keep going and
Speaker 1: I'll make it work. But to have the sort of
Speaker 1: strength to say this is it right, I'm going to
Speaker 1: stop and make it what the album I want it
Speaker 1: to be, I think is very admirable. Do you make
Speaker 1: those decisions by yourself or their people in your life
Speaker 1: where you crisis call and say, like I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: doing this, what do I do what's the kind of
Speaker 1: process around that.
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, I think the hardest thing about
Speaker 4: being an artist is like the kind of voices and
Speaker 4: opinions around you twenty four to seven, from your team,
Speaker 4: your label, the higher powers, all these different things, and
Speaker 4: I think it can be really hard to kind of
Speaker 4: stay through to yourself because you can get easily led
Speaker 4: when everyone's saying this is great and this is it,
Speaker 4: but you don't feel like it in your gut. You
Speaker 4: can still be sweat. So I think in this industry,
Speaker 4: being like a solo arts especially, it's really hard to
Speaker 4: stay through to yourself. So I'm glad that I've got
Speaker 4: like people around me that I can go to and
Speaker 4: be like, I'm not feeling it.
Speaker 2: I don't feel good. Like my manager, she goes to
Speaker 2: war for me every day, bless her, and she'll have
Speaker 2: my back.
Speaker 4: And then I've got like my family and my mom,
Speaker 4: my partner lets, and I think they know what I
Speaker 4: want to do and what decisions are me so they
Speaker 4: just backed me and because then it's authentic anyway. Oh
Speaker 4: so like yeah, they're definitely the key people in my
Speaker 4: life luckily, because it is it is quite difficult.
Speaker 2: It's it's tough sometimes.
Speaker 1: After the break, Perry opens up about meeting Alex on
Speaker 1: a dating app and navigating long distance love, and how
Speaker 1: becoming a mom has changed her life for the better.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Alex, so thank you
Speaker 1: for bringing him up, because there's that lovely song you
Speaker 1: go your way about your relationship in those early days.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me a little bit about what it
Speaker 1: was like to meet him and how your love story started.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course we met Onria.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, I do.
Speaker 2: That was like the hot thing at the time.
Speaker 1: It was a hot thing that the waitless thro it
Speaker 1: across the world apparently have escalated to such an extent.
Speaker 1: There's millions of people trying to go on on, like
Speaker 1: celebrities trying to get on. There was a press release
Speaker 1: about it the other day and they're just at capacity.
Speaker 1: So I think you got it at a good time
Speaker 1: because now everyone wants on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: I feel like when I was on it, there wasn't
Speaker 4: that many people on there that was but it was
Speaker 4: like hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 2: Of people you could pick from it. It was a very
Speaker 2: shallow pool, but it was kind.
Speaker 4: Of good because it was like quite exclusive at the time,
Speaker 4: but this was ten years ago, so it's different now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we.
Speaker 4: Met on there and then we started chatting and exchange
Speaker 4: numbers and then nothing really came about. And then I
Speaker 4: was like, I think I've seen them on the google Box,
Speaker 4: like the England scued the players were on goggle Box.
Speaker 4: I was, oh, my god, that's that guy that I
Speaker 4: was talking to Umbria. It seems really funny, really nice.
Speaker 4: It was really cute. And then Jesse made me message him,
Speaker 4: so I messaged him and I was like, Hi, when
Speaker 4: you take me.
Speaker 1: Off for a drink, that's a good opening line. That's
Speaker 1: a nice, casual but like exciting opening line, and it
Speaker 1: obviously worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I was cringing at the time, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I forgot to lose. I've been single for a little while,
Speaker 4: so I.
Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, I'll give it a go.
Speaker 4: And I dated a lot, but everybody just give me
Speaker 4: the egg and.
Speaker 2: Nobody was it like it was just annoying.
Speaker 4: I couldn't be bothered with anybody, to be honest, I
Speaker 4: think I was just like, right, I'd rather just be
Speaker 4: on my own. And then I met him and then
Speaker 4: I just thought, oh my god, he's perfect. He's everything
Speaker 4: that I was wanting to meet, and I think I
Speaker 4: needed somebody like him to come into my life to
Speaker 4: change my men especially, So I.
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, this is great, he's lovely. Fancied him
Speaker 2: straight away.
Speaker 1: Oh what a beautiful love story.
Speaker 2: And then that was it.
Speaker 4: We were just like inpable ever since. So we went
Speaker 4: out a lot, met all each other's friends and everything
Speaker 4: like that. So yeah, it was great and it was
Speaker 4: just a gentleman. He was lovely.
Speaker 1: And your song go Your Way, I understand that's from
Speaker 1: the early days of your relationship. Is that correct when
Speaker 1: you had just met but you were going off on
Speaker 1: a tour and you sort of said to him you
Speaker 1: were thinking he needed a break and can he tat
Speaker 1: me through? Sort of like that moment and how it
Speaker 1: led to this song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a bit random, So it was, you know,
Speaker 4: this was a Joy Anonymous song, and I love Joy Anonymous.
Speaker 2: I think he's the coolest guy and.
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with him, and this song like kind of
Speaker 4: made me think back to a time when Alex and
Speaker 4: I first started dating, Like we were seeing each other,
Speaker 4: we really liked each other. You know, I was getting feelings,
Speaker 4: he was catching feelings, but neither of us had seen anything,
Speaker 4: and then I was born to America three months to
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: Are in a Grande tour?
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I just remember sitting him down after like a
Speaker 4: date one night, and I was like that, I'm going
Speaker 4: to be away for three months.
Speaker 2: I don't expect you to wait for me, So why
Speaker 2: don't we just go our separate ways for now. I'll
Speaker 2: do my own thing. You can do your thing, and
Speaker 2: if we're meant to be, then maybe after the twelve
Speaker 2: we'll kind of come back together. And he's like ooh,
Speaker 2: he was horrified question and he was like, that's gross.
Speaker 2: Why would we do that?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, because I'm going to be out of
Speaker 4: the country in America traveling for three months and we've
Speaker 4: just met, so like, and we were off quite young
Speaker 4: at the time. I just thought I don't want to
Speaker 4: put that pressure on him. And he was like absolutely not,
Speaker 4: like you're my girlfriend, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, is asking me. You're telling
Speaker 2: me I'm asking you you wouldn't be my girlfriend.
Speaker 3: So I thought we were like, I'm like, oh, okay
Speaker 3: then and then we just had to like based was it?
Speaker 3: But we just styped every day, messaged constantly, and then
Speaker 3: I think we came back for like one night to
Speaker 3: do the Bricks.
Speaker 2: We performed at the Brits, won an award, spent the night,
Speaker 2: and then went back to America.
Speaker 4: So I think I got to see him like once
Speaker 4: in that two and a half three months.
Speaker 2: But yeah, weird, that's.
Speaker 1: Really beautiful and also story ties him with your song
Speaker 1: if he wanted to, he will because he made it
Speaker 1: work the distance and there's so many of us out
Speaker 1: here who are just the bar is so low across
Speaker 1: the board, and so when you hear something like that
Speaker 1: that it's like true love and true commitment. That's really lovely.
Speaker 2: I think that my bar was so law.
Speaker 4: That's why I was like, do you want to just
Speaker 4: part ways?
Speaker 2: The fact that he was disgusted in that, I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what a green flag with me?
Speaker 2: And he's waiting for me and he's willing to do
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 4: So I think he just had a lot of maturity
Speaker 4: as well, you know, but you're right, if you wanted
Speaker 4: to be definitely words then he did.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I think I think it's a wake up
Speaker 1: call a lot of people need. So thank you for
Speaker 1: that bit of a bit of tough love across the board.
Speaker 1: And so, as you said, you've been together for over
Speaker 1: ten years now and you welcomed your beautiful son a
Speaker 1: few years ago. How has been a mother changed the
Speaker 1: way you look at your career and your music and
Speaker 1: how has it shaped what you want to do going forward?
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's it's like impacted my life completely in
Speaker 2: the best way possible. Though.
Speaker 4: I think, like I say to all my friends that
Speaker 4: becoming a mom is like one of the best things
Speaker 4: in the world.
Speaker 2: Like I didn't grow up is the kind of bill
Speaker 2: that was. I want to get married and this is
Speaker 2: going to be my wedding.
Speaker 4: And plan all those things. But I knew growing up
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a man, and I wanted to
Speaker 4: have kids, and I wanted to like live vicariously through
Speaker 4: them and just have the magic of that. And I
Speaker 4: think have an Axle is everything that I.
Speaker 2: Would thought being a man would be.
Speaker 4: Like, he's just an absolute who.
Speaker 2: He's funnydic he like.
Speaker 4: Comes out with the funniest things, and I just love
Speaker 4: the innocence of children.
Speaker 2: I just think that. And he's just the best thing ever.
Speaker 2: So I just adore him.
Speaker 4: I think when you have you know, you have big
Speaker 4: things that impact your life drastically, but definitely becoming a
Speaker 4: parent changes your outlook on everything. Because I used to
Speaker 4: worry a lot about, you know how, what people thought
Speaker 4: of me or am.
Speaker 2: I doing enough?
Speaker 4: And I was very critical on myself. And then once
Speaker 4: I birthed a full on a human, I thought, why
Speaker 4: do I care the whole humans? Yeah, now I feel
Speaker 4: like a badass, and I feel like I just look
Speaker 4: at things completely different Now I don't swept the small stuff.
Speaker 2: Little things happen that would really annoy me, and now
Speaker 2: I'm just like.
Speaker 4: Oh, well, like, I think I've just definitely changed my
Speaker 4: perspective on things, but in the best way possible.
Speaker 2: I think it's made me a way about person that's a.
Speaker 1: Really beautiful way to look at it. Does he does?
Speaker 1: I know he's still very young, but is he the
Speaker 1: age now that he knows that his mum is sort
Speaker 1: of one of the most biggest musicians in the world,
Speaker 1: or like, what's his kind of reaction to that, or
Speaker 1: does he think everyone's mom sinks to stadiums and performs
Speaker 1: on TV and all those things.
Speaker 4: He doesn't really get it, but he did, like they
Speaker 4: did something at nursery like a few months ago. I've
Speaker 4: seen us in big school now. Didn't know it was saying,
Speaker 4: you know, tell us about your parents and what did.
Speaker 2: They do and what do you want to be when
Speaker 2: you grow up? And he was like, well, my dad
Speaker 2: has a footballer, and I think my mom like dancers.
Speaker 1: I mean not wrong, is this quite great?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, two step or two?
Speaker 4: But I'm a singer, darl and I'm like, mummy's the singer, remember,
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh yeah. He just doesn't really get it,
Speaker 4: to be honest, he doesn't fully connect the dots.
Speaker 2: And if we're out in public and people want pictures
Speaker 2: and stuff, he's a bit like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: And then he wants to be in the So I
Speaker 2: think he's very young at the moment. He doesn't fully
Speaker 2: understand it. Yeah yeah, I don't know what age that
Speaker 2: will become a thing. I don't know, maybe like.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm not sure. I guess. Also when a
Speaker 1: new baby arrives and he also gets to sort of
Speaker 1: see you be in full more Moon for like album
Speaker 1: release mode and what do you I mean that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I can't believe one human being is going to do
Speaker 1: all that, But what do those next few months look
Speaker 1: like for you? As I said, You're expecting a baby,
Speaker 1: which is very very exciting, and you're a touring about
Speaker 1: to release this new album and then you've got a
Speaker 1: baby a son to look after at home. How does that?
Speaker 1: How is that schedule going to work? Not to stress
Speaker 1: you out on this call, I know I'm.
Speaker 2: Thinking, Oh my John, I'm going to bring my managea.
Speaker 1: You can do what I think, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've been doing it the last few months
Speaker 2: and I think I've handled it quite well.
Speaker 4: Obviously, act was back in school now, which is great,
Speaker 4: so it just means I've got more time to do
Speaker 4: my stuff.
Speaker 2: My mum is always with me, so.
Speaker 4: She's basically my village in Alex's home now, so that's
Speaker 4: making things easier again. So I think like I'm definitely
Speaker 4: You know, my album has been my dream for years
Speaker 4: and it's what I've wanted, and I've worked so hard
Speaker 4: and bought so much, and I had to go through
Speaker 4: so many fricking obstacles that you wouldn't believe to get
Speaker 4: this album to go ahead. So now that it's finally happening,
Speaker 4: I just want to be able to do my everything
Speaker 4: and do as much as I can.
Speaker 2: But I think it's all about balance and like, again,
Speaker 2: my manager's really good at doing that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And you know when people are like, why isn't she
Speaker 2: doing this, why isn't she doing that? Probaly because I
Speaker 2: don't want to.
Speaker 4: I can't physically do it. I have so much in
Speaker 4: my schedule and we have to prioritize everything. And it's
Speaker 4: not as straightforward as just right, You're going to do this, this, this,
Speaker 4: and that's the plan. We've got to plan everything ahead,
Speaker 4: we've got to schedule everything, we've got to make sure
Speaker 4: I have time to get myself together, and there's a
Speaker 4: lot to do.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's so exciting that I'm
Speaker 2: just like, I'm so ready for it. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: just before Christmas as well, so it's great so I
Speaker 2: could work, work, work book, yes, and enjoy Christmas.
Speaker 1: And what is it like being on I guess this
Speaker 1: press tour for the album and also knowing that once
Speaker 1: it comes out, there's going to be all these I
Speaker 1: guess people like reading into different lyrics or people playing it.
Speaker 1: And you've been in the public eye for such a
Speaker 1: long time, do you get excited when you're leading up
Speaker 1: to these periods where you know that people are gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about you even more, or is there like
Speaker 1: a little bit of anxiety of being in the public
Speaker 1: face a little bit more during this time, Like how
Speaker 1: do you balance that side of it?
Speaker 4: I think I'm more just excited, and I think I'm
Speaker 4: more just like at the stage.
Speaker 2: Where I just want my album out so and I
Speaker 2: love it so much. Yeah, and I'm so proud of it,
Speaker 2: and I feel like it's everything I wanted it to be.
Speaker 2: So now all I can do is really soon if
Speaker 2: people like it, they like it. If they don't, they don't,
Speaker 2: that's out of my control. So I think the parts
Speaker 2: that I can control, I've done. Now. I've done my best,
Speaker 2: I've worked my hardest, I've done everything to the top
Speaker 2: standard I possibly could. And now it's just done to
Speaker 2: the public and how they perceived it and how it does.
Speaker 4: But I think because I feel so confident in it,
Speaker 4: I'm just happy as long as.
Speaker 2: My fans hear it and they love it. Yeah, very
Speaker 2: care about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really beautiful way to look at it.
Speaker 1: I guess like that's with any piece of art, whether
Speaker 1: it's an album or movie, a book, anything. Once you
Speaker 1: put out into the world, it becomes the property of
Speaker 1: the fans and the people to consume it in the
Speaker 1: way they want to sort of take that. So that's
Speaker 1: a really lovely way to look at it. Speaking of that,
Speaker 1: like living in the public eye and the press too,
Speaker 1: are recently you've talked about like a few different personal things,
Speaker 1: and in the lead up to sharing your pregnancy, talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about suffering pregnancy loss, which I'm very
Speaker 1: so sorry to hear that, and I hope you and
Speaker 1: your family are doing okay. But what I noticed after
Speaker 1: those stories you talked about those stories publicly is just
Speaker 1: the threads of comments underneath from women saying thank you
Speaker 1: for sharing. I've been through this, I'm going through it now.
Speaker 1: Was it a difficult decision to make those private parts
Speaker 1: of your life public? And do you see that outpouring
Speaker 1: from women thanking you for doing it.
Speaker 4: I never intentionally wanted to go public with that.
Speaker 2: I think you know. It happened a few years ago
Speaker 2: and we've kind of kept it as a in our circle.
Speaker 2: So I'm my best friend to my family obviously, Alex
Speaker 2: and I and then I did the podcast with Paul,
Speaker 2: and I think because you.
Speaker 4: Were so like safe and calming, and it's almost like
Speaker 4: a therapy session. But I don't think I was really
Speaker 4: thinking of it like this is the time to go public.
Speaker 2: Just came out. It felt like a natural kind of
Speaker 2: way to do it.
Speaker 4: But I didn't think I would have discussed things like that,
Speaker 4: not because I didn't want to raise awareness for it,
Speaker 4: and not because you know, I know so many people
Speaker 4: have gone through it, like women and friends of mine,
Speaker 4: and it's really hard.
Speaker 2: But the only reason I didn't want to discuss it.
Speaker 4: Is because I found it too difficult to discuss.
Speaker 2: So I thought, I'm just never gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep it in and that be
Speaker 2: that because it's really hard. It's awful.
Speaker 1: So yes, what I did again, I was very sorry
Speaker 1: to hear that, and I can only imagine that going
Speaker 1: through the pain but then also having that threat of
Speaker 1: like the public potentially finding out. I think it's really
Speaker 1: lovely as you were saying that you're in a circle
Speaker 1: new but a word of it was never breathed to
Speaker 1: the public, So it must be nice to know that
Speaker 1: you've always got that in a circle around you who
Speaker 1: will hold tight to any of those stories.
Speaker 2: They are the best, Like nothing gets out of my circle.
Speaker 2: They're very strong to take that to the grove.
Speaker 1: That is good today because I mean, there are many
Speaker 1: celebrities who say they still I mean Pete davidsone was
Speaker 1: saying the other day, and I've heard other celebrities say it.
Speaker 1: They have to sometimes even now, like plant different stories
Speaker 1: within their friendship groups to see who will leak it
Speaker 1: and all that sort of thing. So I think that's
Speaker 1: really lovely to not be on that.
Speaker 4: Oh now, there's none of that for me. Everybody just
Speaker 4: kind of knows. In my inner circle they know everything.
Speaker 2: So luckily I don't have that issue. And yeah, someone
Speaker 2: couldn't be trusted, I wouldn't tell them anything.
Speaker 1: So but that is a lovely way to go through life.
Speaker 1: And So, in anticipation of the album about to come out,
Speaker 1: we've heard some of the singles. A lot of them
Speaker 1: will be under wraps until it's released. What are you
Speaker 1: hoping that people take away from this album? I know
Speaker 1: we've talked through this sort of behind the scenes of
Speaker 1: a few different songs, but what is the kind of
Speaker 1: I guess journey that your hope listeners will go on
Speaker 1: when they sit down and listen to all the songs
Speaker 1: all the way through.
Speaker 2: I'm just in true to say what ones people love them, what.
Speaker 4: People like click with because it's a whole body of
Speaker 4: work and everyone's going to have different opinions.
Speaker 2: So I'm just so intrigued to say what everyone's going
Speaker 2: to think, and like.
Speaker 4: I say, I love it so much, so I'm expecting
Speaker 4: everyone else to be like, yeah, it's a great album,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I think I'm just excited to get it
Speaker 4: out there so I can start having the conversations with
Speaker 4: the fans and DM in them and just getting to
Speaker 4: know the insights of what they think of the thing
Speaker 4: that's the most exciting.
Speaker 1: I think, Oh, you DM with fans, oh yeah all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, oh wow. I mean someone with such
Speaker 1: a big following, I would find that surprising that you
Speaker 1: do you ever delve in there and just think, Oh God,
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to find in my
Speaker 1: messages or is it usually pretty pretty just like what
Speaker 1: people wanting to discuss the music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like May the fans we talk
Speaker 2: about all kinds of stuff we talk about, like the
Speaker 2: summert and prey.
Speaker 1: Wait, which teamy. I need to know Jim Conrad, what
Speaker 1: are you? Yes, no, I am team comrade, But I
Speaker 1: feel sad for Jeremiah. I actually think that she just
Speaker 1: needs to go live in Paris and just not go
Speaker 1: near those boys again because it's been a bit of
Speaker 1: a messy situation.
Speaker 2: I don't want to choose herself. That's cute and all,
Speaker 2: but no, not now.
Speaker 4: I want Connie and Belly to have forever after because
Speaker 4: they've they've.
Speaker 2: Always been day ones. But anyway, me, the fans get
Speaker 2: into this constantly. We talk about all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I always talk to my fans as much
Speaker 2: as possible. Really, they're just so lovely.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and that's the thing with social media you
Speaker 4: can kind of have that platform.
Speaker 2: We feel close to them. But yeah, we chat about
Speaker 2: all kinds of crap.
Speaker 1: Oh that's really well. I mean, I'm sure for many
Speaker 1: people that's exciting for them. And having those real life
Speaker 1: fan interactions, like, has there been a particularly memorable one?
Speaker 1: Because I know there's so many times where as we
Speaker 1: were saying before, I've seen fans cry in front of
Speaker 1: you or get very excited. What's your most memorable fan interaction?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I couldn't say, there's just been so many.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's very rare I've ever had like
Speaker 4: a bad interaction with anyone.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that is lovely, Perry. It has just been
Speaker 1: so glorious to talk to you. And I've listened to
Speaker 1: the album all the way through. It's just really lovely
Speaker 1: from the songs they've sent me, and I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for everyone else to hear it. And yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: always such a joy to watch you on stage and
Speaker 1: a joy to talk to you. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your time, so much.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your day.
Speaker 1: That was Perry Edwards. And what a journey she's been on.
Speaker 1: From girl group success to solo artists, from heartbreak to motherhood,
Speaker 1: from stadium tours to quiet moments at home. Perry has
Speaker 1: lived so many lives already, whether it's through the music
Speaker 1: she's making, the family she's building, all the voice she's
Speaker 1: still learning to trust. Perry is stepping into something that
Speaker 1: feels braver and more personal than ever before. She's honest, grounded,
Speaker 1: and now finally she's starting a new chapter on her
Speaker 1: own terms. And one thing's clear, Perry Edwards is just
Speaker 1: getting started the Executive producer of No Filter is Naeima
Speaker 1: Brown and senior producer is Tina Madlof Audio production by
Speaker 1: Jacob Brown and video editing by Josh Green. I'm Laura Brodnick.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to No Filter.