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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to No Filter. I'm Laura Brednick, and

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Speaker 1: today we're sitting down with Perry Edwards, chart topping singer, performer, mother,

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Speaker 1: and now finally a solo artist. Perry has lived many

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Speaker 1: navigating heartbreak and motherhood in the public eye. But now

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Speaker 1: how becoming a mother shifted everything. She talks honestly about

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Speaker 1: make something just for you. Here is Perry Edwards. Well, Perry, Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to No Filter. Hello. So I opened my

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Speaker 1: build up to that. How are you doing in this

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Speaker 2: Oh good, Okay, there's a lot going on, but it's

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, the two joyful things in life.

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Speaker 1: Was there a decision to sort of put that news

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Speaker 4: I think it was just the right time. And I said,

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Speaker 2: And then also I'm just I'm a bit bored of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so annoying, Like the outfits are not necessarily

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Speaker 1: And I've heard you talk many years, because I've been

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, and you just care less as well about

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Speaker 1: Fox really is I guess I'm really finding that as well.

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Speaker 1: That's why I say to all the younger people in

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Speaker 2: Was like do I do it? Do I not?

441
00:19:27,045 --> 00:19:28,965
Speaker 4: I think I kind of owed it to myself to

442
00:19:28,965 --> 00:19:32,325
Speaker 4: do it because it's something that I love. But at

443
00:19:32,325 --> 00:19:34,925
Speaker 4: the same time, I was like, oh, I know the industry,

444
00:19:34,965 --> 00:19:36,845
Speaker 4: I know how hard it is, and this.

445
00:19:36,925 --> 00:19:38,725
Speaker 2: Is completely different now even to what it.

446
00:19:38,805 --> 00:19:41,405
Speaker 4: Was back then, and I think part of me was

447
00:19:41,445 --> 00:19:44,085
Speaker 4: a bit like should I even do it?

448
00:19:45,325 --> 00:19:46,845
Speaker 2: And that wasn't because of laziness.

449
00:19:46,925 --> 00:19:49,005
Speaker 4: I was just because I thought, is it something that's

450
00:19:49,045 --> 00:19:52,005
Speaker 4: going to actually make me happy? And then I think

451
00:19:52,125 --> 00:19:55,565
Speaker 4: when I started making music and being in the studio,

452
00:19:55,645 --> 00:19:57,805
Speaker 4: I thought, no, this is like, this is what I

453
00:19:57,965 --> 00:19:58,765
Speaker 4: just love to do.

454
00:19:59,325 --> 00:20:00,125
Speaker 2: I just love singing.

455
00:20:00,645 --> 00:20:03,245
Speaker 4: So I think any opportunity where I can be on

456
00:20:03,285 --> 00:20:06,005
Speaker 4: the stage and be performing and get that adrenaline rush

457
00:20:06,085 --> 00:20:10,365
Speaker 4: and like all that stuff that comes with been a singer,

458
00:20:10,405 --> 00:20:10,925
Speaker 4: I just.

459
00:20:10,965 --> 00:20:12,845
Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to give it a go and

460
00:20:13,005 --> 00:20:15,285
Speaker 2: just see see what happens, yes.

461
00:20:15,085 --> 00:20:17,525
Speaker 1: And just sing. And I guess know that like old fans,

462
00:20:17,605 --> 00:20:19,965
Speaker 1: new fans would all sort of be there to hear

463
00:20:20,125 --> 00:20:22,445
Speaker 1: the new material that you were releasing and would be

464
00:20:22,445 --> 00:20:23,245
Speaker 1: excited to hear it.

465
00:20:24,205 --> 00:20:25,045
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

466
00:20:25,445 --> 00:20:28,005
Speaker 1: Coming into twenty twenty four, you released a single Forget

467
00:20:28,005 --> 00:20:31,365
Speaker 1: about Us. Switch is such a banger, one of the

468
00:20:31,365 --> 00:20:32,925
Speaker 1: ones I sing along to in the car quite a

469
00:20:32,925 --> 00:20:35,845
Speaker 1: bit myself, And you've said about that that it's about

470
00:20:35,845 --> 00:20:39,445
Speaker 1: past relationships and looking back on what worked and what

471
00:20:39,485 --> 00:20:41,445
Speaker 1: didn't and where you are now. How do you go

472
00:20:41,485 --> 00:20:44,005
Speaker 1: on the process of sort of looking back on all

473
00:20:44,005 --> 00:20:46,725
Speaker 1: these past relationships and feelings and then picking out the

474
00:20:46,765 --> 00:20:49,045
Speaker 1: moments that you want to put into a song. What

475
00:20:49,165 --> 00:20:52,365
Speaker 1: is that process like, because I guess from an outsider's perspective,

476
00:20:52,405 --> 00:20:55,245
Speaker 1: it just looks like so many different feelings and thoughts

477
00:20:55,285 --> 00:20:57,205
Speaker 1: to distill down into this song that you want to

478
00:20:57,245 --> 00:20:58,085
Speaker 1: put out into the world.

479
00:20:58,645 --> 00:21:01,485
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's different every time. With that one,

480
00:21:01,605 --> 00:21:04,125
Speaker 2: it was you know, it was written by a cheer

481
00:21:04,165 --> 00:21:07,405
Speaker 2: and it felt like a big pop song.

482
00:21:08,645 --> 00:21:11,085
Speaker 4: And it just really big and I loved the sound

483
00:21:11,085 --> 00:21:12,445
Speaker 4: of it, and I love the viber bit and at

484
00:21:12,445 --> 00:21:15,005
Speaker 4: the time I didn't have the first single or what

485
00:21:15,045 --> 00:21:18,605
Speaker 4: I thought my first single, and I think concept wise,

486
00:21:18,645 --> 00:21:20,125
Speaker 4: I liked that it was just relatable.

487
00:21:20,645 --> 00:21:21,645
Speaker 2: I feel like so many.

488
00:21:21,405 --> 00:21:24,845
Speaker 4: People go through life where they have relationships with people

489
00:21:24,885 --> 00:21:27,285
Speaker 4: that didn't work because it was wrong person or wrong

490
00:21:27,325 --> 00:21:30,605
Speaker 4: time or whatever the circumstances are. But at the same time,

491
00:21:30,645 --> 00:21:33,365
Speaker 4: it happened and it's part of your life and it's

492
00:21:33,845 --> 00:21:35,405
Speaker 4: kind of it makes you who you are.

493
00:21:35,325 --> 00:21:37,485
Speaker 2: When you're old at kind of shoot you as a person,

494
00:21:37,525 --> 00:21:38,045
Speaker 2: and there's.

495
00:21:37,925 --> 00:21:41,965
Speaker 4: Such huge impactful moments in your life that I kind

496
00:21:42,005 --> 00:21:43,645
Speaker 4: of thought, like, Yeah, you don't want to forget that

497
00:21:43,725 --> 00:21:44,205
Speaker 4: it happened.

498
00:21:44,205 --> 00:21:45,805
Speaker 2: Of course it didn't work, but do I want to

499
00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:46,085
Speaker 2: be there?

500
00:21:46,165 --> 00:21:50,725
Speaker 3: No, not that person techno, but it happened, and I'm

501
00:21:50,805 --> 00:21:54,725
Speaker 3: so grateful for the life experiences.

502
00:21:54,525 --> 00:21:56,365
Speaker 4: Just everything about it. So I'm like, I don't want

503
00:21:56,365 --> 00:21:58,485
Speaker 4: to forget that it happened. I'm actually glad it happened,

504
00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:00,605
Speaker 4: whether it was good or bad. So I think that's

505
00:22:00,685 --> 00:22:02,565
Speaker 4: kind of the concept around that song, and that's why

506
00:22:02,565 --> 00:22:03,565
Speaker 4: I loved it so much.

507
00:22:04,125 --> 00:22:06,485
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really brilliatable take. I think that idea

508
00:22:06,565 --> 00:22:08,525
Speaker 1: of like you have looking back on your past paint

509
00:22:08,565 --> 00:22:11,125
Speaker 1: and again that whole thing saying earlier of getting older

510
00:22:11,165 --> 00:22:12,885
Speaker 1: and being able to look back on things with like

511
00:22:12,925 --> 00:22:15,045
Speaker 1: I'm glad that happened, and now I can sort of

512
00:22:15,085 --> 00:22:17,045
Speaker 1: think of it in a different light. It's really powerful.

513
00:22:17,245 --> 00:22:17,565
Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
00:22:17,605 --> 00:22:20,805
Speaker 1: I was reading that you were in the studio working

515
00:22:20,805 --> 00:22:23,285
Speaker 1: on the album, and you had singles and you had music,

516
00:22:23,365 --> 00:22:24,965
Speaker 1: and then you decided to put a little bit of

517
00:22:24,965 --> 00:22:28,165
Speaker 1: a pause and kind of reconfigure a few things. Is

518
00:22:28,205 --> 00:22:30,445
Speaker 1: that right, and sort of look at doing things a

519
00:22:30,445 --> 00:22:31,245
Speaker 1: bit of a different way.

520
00:22:31,725 --> 00:22:32,005
Speaker 2: Yeah.

521
00:22:32,245 --> 00:22:35,765
Speaker 4: I think I was just like feeling the pressure a

522
00:22:35,805 --> 00:22:37,125
Speaker 4: lot from everybody as well.

523
00:22:37,565 --> 00:22:40,285
Speaker 2: And you come from a group, everyone has such expectations

524
00:22:40,285 --> 00:22:42,125
Speaker 2: of you. You're not a new artist anymore.

525
00:22:42,645 --> 00:22:45,085
Speaker 4: People already know who you are because you're quite established

526
00:22:45,085 --> 00:22:47,925
Speaker 4: from a group. But then when you go solo, if

527
00:22:47,925 --> 00:22:50,605
Speaker 4: you're not doing what people thought or wanted or walked

528
00:22:51,165 --> 00:22:52,925
Speaker 4: you would do, it's almost.

529
00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:56,245
Speaker 2: Like they're just shit all over. It's just like, ah, okay.

530
00:22:56,605 --> 00:22:59,485
Speaker 2: So it's kind of stressful, and I think I just

531
00:22:59,565 --> 00:23:00,685
Speaker 2: got to the point where I was like.

532
00:23:00,645 --> 00:23:03,925
Speaker 4: Right, I don't feel like I'm being truly authentic to myself.

533
00:23:04,365 --> 00:23:07,045
Speaker 4: I don't feel like, you know, I wasn't right in

534
00:23:07,085 --> 00:23:09,965
Speaker 4: the material. It wasn't coming from me. It didn't feel

535
00:23:09,965 --> 00:23:12,885
Speaker 4: that genuine. And I was thinking, no, wonder they think

536
00:23:12,965 --> 00:23:15,845
Speaker 4: this week, because even I think it's much too much.

537
00:23:15,885 --> 00:23:18,725
Speaker 2: I did, So I think I just kind of put

538
00:23:18,725 --> 00:23:20,285
Speaker 2: the brakes on a little bit, had a little bit

539
00:23:20,285 --> 00:23:20,525
Speaker 2: of a.

540
00:23:20,485 --> 00:23:23,525
Speaker 4: Break, went back in the studio with a fresh head,

541
00:23:23,765 --> 00:23:27,565
Speaker 4: took the pressure off, and just thought, right, I have

542
00:23:27,725 --> 00:23:31,565
Speaker 4: what I think is my album can I can I

543
00:23:31,685 --> 00:23:35,205
Speaker 4: do what I would rather do and see where I

544
00:23:35,325 --> 00:23:35,645
Speaker 4: get to.

545
00:23:36,285 --> 00:23:38,045
Speaker 2: And then I think as soon as I did that, there.

546
00:23:37,965 --> 00:23:41,165
Speaker 4: Was just a huge shift in like my creative juices

547
00:23:41,205 --> 00:23:42,005
Speaker 4: and everything like that.

548
00:23:42,045 --> 00:23:43,325
Speaker 2: It just felt so much better.

549
00:23:43,645 --> 00:23:45,725
Speaker 4: So I'm glad I did that because I'm glad I

550
00:23:45,725 --> 00:23:47,845
Speaker 4: stuck to my guns and now my album is saw Me.

551
00:23:48,445 --> 00:23:53,605
Speaker 4: It's so authentic. It's just like from my heart really,

552
00:23:53,685 --> 00:23:54,925
Speaker 4: so I'm just I love it.

553
00:23:55,925 --> 00:23:57,845
Speaker 1: Well, that's a That's a very admirable thing to do,

554
00:23:57,885 --> 00:24:00,685
Speaker 1: because I can imagine that when that wheels in motion

555
00:24:00,925 --> 00:24:03,485
Speaker 1: of making an album, there's so many different people involved,

556
00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:06,845
Speaker 1: and you've been talking to different people about album releases

557
00:24:06,885 --> 00:24:09,005
Speaker 1: and musicians and even people in your own life of

558
00:24:09,365 --> 00:24:12,645
Speaker 1: what your schedule looks like. There would be the thought

559
00:24:12,685 --> 00:24:14,405
Speaker 1: that I'll just push on and I'll keep going and

560
00:24:14,445 --> 00:24:16,445
Speaker 1: I'll make it work. But to have the sort of

561
00:24:16,525 --> 00:24:18,605
Speaker 1: strength to say this is it right, I'm going to

562
00:24:18,645 --> 00:24:21,365
Speaker 1: stop and make it what the album I want it

563
00:24:21,405 --> 00:24:24,245
Speaker 1: to be, I think is very admirable. Do you make

564
00:24:24,285 --> 00:24:26,605
Speaker 1: those decisions by yourself or their people in your life

565
00:24:26,605 --> 00:24:29,365
Speaker 1: where you crisis call and say, like I'm thinking of

566
00:24:29,405 --> 00:24:31,765
Speaker 1: doing this, what do I do what's the kind of

567
00:24:32,085 --> 00:24:32,885
Speaker 1: process around that.

568
00:24:33,445 --> 00:24:35,725
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, I think the hardest thing about

569
00:24:35,725 --> 00:24:38,685
Speaker 4: being an artist is like the kind of voices and

570
00:24:38,725 --> 00:24:41,445
Speaker 4: opinions around you twenty four to seven, from your team,

571
00:24:41,565 --> 00:24:46,125
Speaker 4: your label, the higher powers, all these different things, and

572
00:24:46,205 --> 00:24:47,765
Speaker 4: I think it can be really hard to kind of

573
00:24:47,805 --> 00:24:50,525
Speaker 4: stay through to yourself because you can get easily led

574
00:24:50,965 --> 00:24:53,245
Speaker 4: when everyone's saying this is great and this is it,

575
00:24:53,285 --> 00:24:54,845
Speaker 4: but you don't feel like it in your gut. You

576
00:24:54,845 --> 00:24:57,405
Speaker 4: can still be sweat. So I think in this industry,

577
00:24:57,645 --> 00:25:00,005
Speaker 4: being like a solo arts especially, it's really hard to

578
00:25:00,045 --> 00:25:02,805
Speaker 4: stay through to yourself. So I'm glad that I've got

579
00:25:02,845 --> 00:25:06,365
Speaker 4: like people around me that I can go to and

580
00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:07,565
Speaker 4: be like, I'm not feeling it.

581
00:25:07,605 --> 00:25:10,205
Speaker 2: I don't feel good. Like my manager, she goes to

582
00:25:10,285 --> 00:25:13,685
Speaker 2: war for me every day, bless her, and she'll have

583
00:25:13,805 --> 00:25:14,245
Speaker 2: my back.

584
00:25:14,445 --> 00:25:16,365
Speaker 4: And then I've got like my family and my mom,

585
00:25:16,445 --> 00:25:19,205
Speaker 4: my partner lets, and I think they know what I

586
00:25:19,245 --> 00:25:21,525
Speaker 4: want to do and what decisions are me so they

587
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:24,805
Speaker 4: just backed me and because then it's authentic anyway. Oh

588
00:25:24,925 --> 00:25:28,565
Speaker 4: so like yeah, they're definitely the key people in my

589
00:25:28,605 --> 00:25:30,885
Speaker 4: life luckily, because it is it is quite difficult.

590
00:25:30,925 --> 00:25:32,205
Speaker 2: It's it's tough sometimes.

591
00:25:36,045 --> 00:25:39,205
Speaker 1: After the break, Perry opens up about meeting Alex on

592
00:25:39,245 --> 00:25:42,805
Speaker 1: a dating app and navigating long distance love, and how

593
00:25:42,845 --> 00:25:45,485
Speaker 1: becoming a mom has changed her life for the better.

594
00:25:49,445 --> 00:25:51,045
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Alex, so thank you

595
00:25:51,045 --> 00:25:53,925
Speaker 1: for bringing him up, because there's that lovely song you

596
00:25:53,965 --> 00:25:57,165
Speaker 1: go your way about your relationship in those early days.

597
00:25:57,245 --> 00:25:59,245
Speaker 1: Can you tell me a little bit about what it

598
00:25:59,285 --> 00:26:02,805
Speaker 1: was like to meet him and how your love story started.

599
00:26:03,845 --> 00:26:06,325
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course we met Onria.

600
00:26:06,805 --> 00:26:09,165
Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, I do.

601
00:26:09,885 --> 00:26:11,765
Speaker 2: That was like the hot thing at the time.

602
00:26:11,925 --> 00:26:14,525
Speaker 1: It was a hot thing that the waitless thro it

603
00:26:14,565 --> 00:26:17,245
Speaker 1: across the world apparently have escalated to such an extent.

604
00:26:17,245 --> 00:26:19,365
Speaker 1: There's millions of people trying to go on on, like

605
00:26:19,565 --> 00:26:21,965
Speaker 1: celebrities trying to get on. There was a press release

606
00:26:22,005 --> 00:26:25,285
Speaker 1: about it the other day and they're just at capacity.

607
00:26:25,405 --> 00:26:26,965
Speaker 1: So I think you got it at a good time

608
00:26:27,165 --> 00:26:28,525
Speaker 1: because now everyone wants on.

609
00:26:29,125 --> 00:26:30,005
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

610
00:26:30,125 --> 00:26:32,125
Speaker 4: I feel like when I was on it, there wasn't

611
00:26:32,165 --> 00:26:34,525
Speaker 4: that many people on there that was but it was

612
00:26:34,725 --> 00:26:36,645
Speaker 4: like hundreds of thousands.

613
00:26:36,365 --> 00:26:37,765
Speaker 2: Of people you could pick from it. It was a very

614
00:26:37,805 --> 00:26:40,445
Speaker 2: shallow pool, but it was kind.

615
00:26:40,285 --> 00:26:43,685
Speaker 4: Of good because it was like quite exclusive at the time,

616
00:26:43,765 --> 00:26:46,645
Speaker 4: but this was ten years ago, so it's different now.

617
00:26:47,125 --> 00:26:48,045
Speaker 2: But yeah, we.

618
00:26:47,965 --> 00:26:52,005
Speaker 4: Met on there and then we started chatting and exchange

619
00:26:52,085 --> 00:26:55,485
Speaker 4: numbers and then nothing really came about. And then I

620
00:26:55,525 --> 00:26:59,365
Speaker 4: was like, I think I've seen them on the google Box,

621
00:27:00,445 --> 00:27:03,165
Speaker 4: like the England scued the players were on goggle Box.

622
00:27:03,685 --> 00:27:05,525
Speaker 4: I was, oh, my god, that's that guy that I

623
00:27:05,565 --> 00:27:08,045
Speaker 4: was talking to Umbria. It seems really funny, really nice.

624
00:27:08,085 --> 00:27:11,245
Speaker 4: It was really cute. And then Jesse made me message him,

625
00:27:11,325 --> 00:27:13,165
Speaker 4: so I messaged him and I was like, Hi, when

626
00:27:13,285 --> 00:27:13,765
Speaker 4: you take me.

627
00:27:13,805 --> 00:27:16,965
Speaker 1: Off for a drink, that's a good opening line. That's

628
00:27:17,005 --> 00:27:19,925
Speaker 1: a nice, casual but like exciting opening line, and it

629
00:27:19,925 --> 00:27:20,725
Speaker 1: obviously worked.

630
00:27:21,085 --> 00:27:21,285
Speaker 2: Yeah.

631
00:27:21,325 --> 00:27:23,045
Speaker 4: Well, I was cringing at the time, but I was like, oh,

632
00:27:23,165 --> 00:27:25,885
Speaker 4: I forgot to lose. I've been single for a little while,

633
00:27:25,925 --> 00:27:26,205
Speaker 4: so I.

634
00:27:26,125 --> 00:27:27,165
Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, I'll give it a go.

635
00:27:27,845 --> 00:27:30,245
Speaker 4: And I dated a lot, but everybody just give me

636
00:27:30,285 --> 00:27:33,725
Speaker 4: the egg and.

637
00:27:32,325 --> 00:27:34,285
Speaker 2: Nobody was it like it was just annoying.

638
00:27:34,365 --> 00:27:36,765
Speaker 4: I couldn't be bothered with anybody, to be honest, I

639
00:27:36,765 --> 00:27:38,325
Speaker 4: think I was just like, right, I'd rather just be

640
00:27:38,405 --> 00:27:40,645
Speaker 4: on my own. And then I met him and then

641
00:27:40,645 --> 00:27:43,205
Speaker 4: I just thought, oh my god, he's perfect. He's everything

642
00:27:43,245 --> 00:27:45,885
Speaker 4: that I was wanting to meet, and I think I

643
00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:48,165
Speaker 4: needed somebody like him to come into my life to

644
00:27:48,885 --> 00:27:51,005
Speaker 4: change my men especially, So I.

645
00:27:51,005 --> 00:27:54,645
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, this is great, he's lovely. Fancied him

646
00:27:54,645 --> 00:27:55,325
Speaker 2: straight away.

647
00:27:55,925 --> 00:27:57,605
Speaker 1: Oh what a beautiful love story.

648
00:27:57,765 --> 00:27:58,525
Speaker 2: And then that was it.

649
00:27:58,565 --> 00:28:01,485
Speaker 4: We were just like inpable ever since. So we went

650
00:28:01,525 --> 00:28:04,685
Speaker 4: out a lot, met all each other's friends and everything

651
00:28:04,725 --> 00:28:06,645
Speaker 4: like that. So yeah, it was great and it was

652
00:28:06,725 --> 00:28:08,125
Speaker 4: just a gentleman. He was lovely.

653
00:28:08,765 --> 00:28:11,125
Speaker 1: And your song go Your Way, I understand that's from

654
00:28:11,125 --> 00:28:14,125
Speaker 1: the early days of your relationship. Is that correct when

655
00:28:15,085 --> 00:28:16,965
Speaker 1: you had just met but you were going off on

656
00:28:17,005 --> 00:28:19,365
Speaker 1: a tour and you sort of said to him you

657
00:28:19,405 --> 00:28:21,885
Speaker 1: were thinking he needed a break and can he tat

658
00:28:21,925 --> 00:28:23,725
Speaker 1: me through? Sort of like that moment and how it

659
00:28:24,005 --> 00:28:24,805
Speaker 1: led to this song.

660
00:28:25,565 --> 00:28:28,805
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a bit random, So it was, you know,

661
00:28:28,845 --> 00:28:32,085
Speaker 4: this was a Joy Anonymous song, and I love Joy Anonymous.

662
00:28:32,085 --> 00:28:35,005
Speaker 2: I think he's the coolest guy and.

663
00:28:34,965 --> 00:28:37,445
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with him, and this song like kind of

664
00:28:37,445 --> 00:28:40,445
Speaker 4: made me think back to a time when Alex and

665
00:28:40,485 --> 00:28:42,605
Speaker 4: I first started dating, Like we were seeing each other,

666
00:28:42,645 --> 00:28:46,685
Speaker 4: we really liked each other. You know, I was getting feelings,

667
00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:49,045
Speaker 4: he was catching feelings, but neither of us had seen anything,

668
00:28:49,725 --> 00:28:52,845
Speaker 4: and then I was born to America three months to

669
00:28:52,885 --> 00:28:53,085
Speaker 4: do that.

670
00:28:53,125 --> 00:28:54,085
Speaker 2: Are in a Grande tour?

671
00:28:54,205 --> 00:28:54,685
Speaker 1: Oh wow?

672
00:28:55,205 --> 00:28:55,485
Speaker 2: Yeah?

673
00:28:55,565 --> 00:28:58,045
Speaker 4: And I just remember sitting him down after like a

674
00:28:58,125 --> 00:29:00,165
Speaker 4: date one night, and I was like that, I'm going

675
00:29:00,245 --> 00:29:01,165
Speaker 4: to be away for three months.

676
00:29:01,205 --> 00:29:03,645
Speaker 2: I don't expect you to wait for me, So why

677
00:29:03,685 --> 00:29:06,445
Speaker 2: don't we just go our separate ways for now. I'll

678
00:29:06,445 --> 00:29:08,165
Speaker 2: do my own thing. You can do your thing, and

679
00:29:08,165 --> 00:29:10,205
Speaker 2: if we're meant to be, then maybe after the twelve

680
00:29:10,205 --> 00:29:13,005
Speaker 2: we'll kind of come back together. And he's like ooh,

681
00:29:13,125 --> 00:29:18,045
Speaker 2: he was horrified question and he was like, that's gross.

682
00:29:18,085 --> 00:29:18,885
Speaker 2: Why would we do that?

683
00:29:18,965 --> 00:29:20,365
Speaker 4: And I'm like, because I'm going to be out of

684
00:29:20,405 --> 00:29:23,565
Speaker 4: the country in America traveling for three months and we've

685
00:29:23,605 --> 00:29:26,005
Speaker 4: just met, so like, and we were off quite young

686
00:29:26,045 --> 00:29:27,525
Speaker 4: at the time. I just thought I don't want to

687
00:29:27,525 --> 00:29:30,205
Speaker 4: put that pressure on him. And he was like absolutely not,

688
00:29:30,285 --> 00:29:31,845
Speaker 4: like you're my girlfriend, I don't want to do that.

689
00:29:31,885 --> 00:29:34,565
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, is asking me. You're telling

690
00:29:34,605 --> 00:29:37,805
Speaker 2: me I'm asking you you wouldn't be my girlfriend.

691
00:29:37,805 --> 00:29:41,125
Speaker 3: So I thought we were like, I'm like, oh, okay

692
00:29:41,165 --> 00:29:44,685
Speaker 3: then and then we just had to like based was it?

693
00:29:46,085 --> 00:29:50,925
Speaker 3: But we just styped every day, messaged constantly, and then

694
00:29:50,965 --> 00:29:52,645
Speaker 3: I think we came back for like one night to

695
00:29:52,645 --> 00:29:53,525
Speaker 3: do the Bricks.

696
00:29:53,965 --> 00:29:57,525
Speaker 2: We performed at the Brits, won an award, spent the night,

697
00:29:57,605 --> 00:29:58,845
Speaker 2: and then went back to America.

698
00:29:58,925 --> 00:30:00,445
Speaker 4: So I think I got to see him like once

699
00:30:00,485 --> 00:30:02,405
Speaker 4: in that two and a half three months.

700
00:30:03,045 --> 00:30:06,285
Speaker 2: But yeah, weird, that's.

701
00:30:06,125 --> 00:30:08,365
Speaker 1: Really beautiful and also story ties him with your song

702
00:30:08,405 --> 00:30:11,165
Speaker 1: if he wanted to, he will because he made it

703
00:30:11,245 --> 00:30:13,445
Speaker 1: work the distance and there's so many of us out

704
00:30:13,445 --> 00:30:16,125
Speaker 1: here who are just the bar is so low across

705
00:30:16,125 --> 00:30:18,045
Speaker 1: the board, and so when you hear something like that

706
00:30:18,045 --> 00:30:21,165
Speaker 1: that it's like true love and true commitment. That's really lovely.

707
00:30:21,965 --> 00:30:23,485
Speaker 2: I think that my bar was so law.

708
00:30:23,525 --> 00:30:24,725
Speaker 4: That's why I was like, do you want to just

709
00:30:24,765 --> 00:30:26,245
Speaker 4: part ways?

710
00:30:26,045 --> 00:30:28,245
Speaker 2: The fact that he was disgusted in that, I was like.

711
00:30:28,245 --> 00:30:31,285
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what a green flag with me?

712
00:30:31,445 --> 00:30:33,525
Speaker 2: And he's waiting for me and he's willing to do

713
00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:34,125
Speaker 2: these things.

714
00:30:34,165 --> 00:30:36,245
Speaker 4: So I think he just had a lot of maturity

715
00:30:36,285 --> 00:30:39,045
Speaker 4: as well, you know, but you're right, if you wanted

716
00:30:39,085 --> 00:30:40,445
Speaker 4: to be definitely words then he did.

717
00:30:40,565 --> 00:30:42,125
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I think I think it's a wake up

718
00:30:42,125 --> 00:30:43,445
Speaker 1: call a lot of people need. So thank you for

719
00:30:43,485 --> 00:30:45,765
Speaker 1: that bit of a bit of tough love across the board.

720
00:30:46,365 --> 00:30:48,525
Speaker 1: And so, as you said, you've been together for over

721
00:30:48,565 --> 00:30:51,165
Speaker 1: ten years now and you welcomed your beautiful son a

722
00:30:51,165 --> 00:30:54,525
Speaker 1: few years ago. How has been a mother changed the

723
00:30:54,525 --> 00:30:56,885
Speaker 1: way you look at your career and your music and

724
00:30:56,925 --> 00:30:59,285
Speaker 1: how has it shaped what you want to do going forward?

725
00:30:59,845 --> 00:31:06,925
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's it's like impacted my life completely in

726
00:31:07,005 --> 00:31:08,405
Speaker 2: the best way possible. Though.

727
00:31:08,445 --> 00:31:11,245
Speaker 4: I think, like I say to all my friends that

728
00:31:11,365 --> 00:31:12,965
Speaker 4: becoming a mom is like one of the best things

729
00:31:12,965 --> 00:31:13,445
Speaker 4: in the world.

730
00:31:13,845 --> 00:31:16,765
Speaker 2: Like I didn't grow up is the kind of bill

731
00:31:16,805 --> 00:31:18,405
Speaker 2: that was. I want to get married and this is

732
00:31:18,445 --> 00:31:19,605
Speaker 2: going to be my wedding.

733
00:31:19,405 --> 00:31:22,445
Speaker 4: And plan all those things. But I knew growing up

734
00:31:22,485 --> 00:31:24,205
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a man, and I wanted to

735
00:31:24,245 --> 00:31:26,565
Speaker 4: have kids, and I wanted to like live vicariously through

736
00:31:26,605 --> 00:31:30,125
Speaker 4: them and just have the magic of that. And I

737
00:31:30,165 --> 00:31:31,765
Speaker 4: think have an Axle is everything that I.

738
00:31:31,685 --> 00:31:33,605
Speaker 2: Would thought being a man would be.

739
00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:36,645
Speaker 4: Like, he's just an absolute who.

740
00:31:36,885 --> 00:31:40,165
Speaker 2: He's funnydic he like.

741
00:31:40,485 --> 00:31:42,325
Speaker 4: Comes out with the funniest things, and I just love

742
00:31:42,405 --> 00:31:43,565
Speaker 4: the innocence of children.

743
00:31:43,605 --> 00:31:46,805
Speaker 2: I just think that. And he's just the best thing ever.

744
00:31:46,965 --> 00:31:48,045
Speaker 2: So I just adore him.

745
00:31:48,125 --> 00:31:51,205
Speaker 4: I think when you have you know, you have big

746
00:31:51,245 --> 00:31:54,685
Speaker 4: things that impact your life drastically, but definitely becoming a

747
00:31:54,805 --> 00:31:58,725
Speaker 4: parent changes your outlook on everything. Because I used to

748
00:31:58,805 --> 00:32:01,845
Speaker 4: worry a lot about, you know how, what people thought

749
00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:02,805
Speaker 4: of me or am.

750
00:32:02,725 --> 00:32:03,525
Speaker 2: I doing enough?

751
00:32:03,645 --> 00:32:07,245
Speaker 4: And I was very critical on myself. And then once

752
00:32:07,285 --> 00:32:10,645
Speaker 4: I birthed a full on a human, I thought, why

753
00:32:10,685 --> 00:32:15,925
Speaker 4: do I care the whole humans? Yeah, now I feel

754
00:32:15,965 --> 00:32:17,925
Speaker 4: like a badass, and I feel like I just look

755
00:32:17,965 --> 00:32:20,685
Speaker 4: at things completely different Now I don't swept the small stuff.

756
00:32:21,205 --> 00:32:24,005
Speaker 2: Little things happen that would really annoy me, and now

757
00:32:24,005 --> 00:32:24,485
Speaker 2: I'm just like.

758
00:32:24,485 --> 00:32:28,125
Speaker 4: Oh, well, like, I think I've just definitely changed my

759
00:32:28,525 --> 00:32:30,965
Speaker 4: perspective on things, but in the best way possible.

760
00:32:31,005 --> 00:32:33,765
Speaker 2: I think it's made me a way about person that's a.

761
00:32:33,765 --> 00:32:35,725
Speaker 1: Really beautiful way to look at it. Does he does?

762
00:32:36,405 --> 00:32:38,125
Speaker 1: I know he's still very young, but is he the

763
00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:40,045
Speaker 1: age now that he knows that his mum is sort

764
00:32:40,085 --> 00:32:42,205
Speaker 1: of one of the most biggest musicians in the world,

765
00:32:42,325 --> 00:32:43,885
Speaker 1: or like, what's his kind of reaction to that, or

766
00:32:43,925 --> 00:32:46,965
Speaker 1: does he think everyone's mom sinks to stadiums and performs

767
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,725
Speaker 1: on TV and all those things.

768
00:32:48,885 --> 00:32:51,125
Speaker 4: He doesn't really get it, but he did, like they

769
00:32:51,125 --> 00:32:53,525
Speaker 4: did something at nursery like a few months ago. I've

770
00:32:53,525 --> 00:32:56,445
Speaker 4: seen us in big school now. Didn't know it was saying,

771
00:32:56,445 --> 00:32:58,285
Speaker 4: you know, tell us about your parents and what did.

772
00:32:58,125 --> 00:32:59,645
Speaker 2: They do and what do you want to be when

773
00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:01,885
Speaker 2: you grow up? And he was like, well, my dad

774
00:33:01,885 --> 00:33:05,005
Speaker 2: has a footballer, and I think my mom like dancers.

775
00:33:05,565 --> 00:33:09,165
Speaker 1: I mean not wrong, is this quite great?

776
00:33:09,445 --> 00:33:11,485
Speaker 2: Oh my god, two step or two?

777
00:33:11,525 --> 00:33:14,165
Speaker 4: But I'm a singer, darl and I'm like, mummy's the singer, remember,

778
00:33:14,485 --> 00:33:17,205
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh yeah. He just doesn't really get it,

779
00:33:17,245 --> 00:33:19,765
Speaker 4: to be honest, he doesn't fully connect the dots.

780
00:33:19,765 --> 00:33:21,765
Speaker 2: And if we're out in public and people want pictures

781
00:33:21,765 --> 00:33:24,245
Speaker 2: and stuff, he's a bit like what are you doing?

782
00:33:24,285 --> 00:33:26,805
Speaker 2: And then he wants to be in the So I

783
00:33:26,845 --> 00:33:29,085
Speaker 2: think he's very young at the moment. He doesn't fully

784
00:33:29,165 --> 00:33:31,885
Speaker 2: understand it. Yeah yeah, I don't know what age that

785
00:33:31,925 --> 00:33:33,805
Speaker 2: will become a thing. I don't know, maybe like.

786
00:33:34,485 --> 00:33:36,525
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm not sure. I guess. Also when a

787
00:33:36,565 --> 00:33:39,325
Speaker 1: new baby arrives and he also gets to sort of

788
00:33:40,205 --> 00:33:42,245
Speaker 1: see you be in full more Moon for like album

789
00:33:42,285 --> 00:33:45,365
Speaker 1: release mode and what do you I mean that's a lot.

790
00:33:45,405 --> 00:33:46,845
Speaker 1: I can't believe one human being is going to do

791
00:33:46,885 --> 00:33:48,965
Speaker 1: all that, But what do those next few months look

792
00:33:49,045 --> 00:33:51,685
Speaker 1: like for you? As I said, You're expecting a baby,

793
00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:55,205
Speaker 1: which is very very exciting, and you're a touring about

794
00:33:55,205 --> 00:33:57,405
Speaker 1: to release this new album and then you've got a

795
00:33:57,405 --> 00:34:00,525
Speaker 1: baby a son to look after at home. How does that?

796
00:34:01,165 --> 00:34:02,885
Speaker 1: How is that schedule going to work? Not to stress

797
00:34:02,885 --> 00:34:05,005
Speaker 1: you out on this call, I know I'm.

798
00:34:04,845 --> 00:34:07,325
Speaker 2: Thinking, Oh my John, I'm going to bring my managea.

799
00:34:08,525 --> 00:34:09,525
Speaker 1: You can do what I think, thank you.

800
00:34:10,085 --> 00:34:12,165
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've been doing it the last few months

801
00:34:12,165 --> 00:34:14,165
Speaker 2: and I think I've handled it quite well.

802
00:34:15,045 --> 00:34:17,165
Speaker 4: Obviously, act was back in school now, which is great,

803
00:34:17,205 --> 00:34:19,245
Speaker 4: so it just means I've got more time to do

804
00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:19,885
Speaker 4: my stuff.

805
00:34:20,365 --> 00:34:22,285
Speaker 2: My mum is always with me, so.

806
00:34:22,405 --> 00:34:26,125
Speaker 4: She's basically my village in Alex's home now, so that's

807
00:34:26,205 --> 00:34:29,765
Speaker 4: making things easier again. So I think like I'm definitely

808
00:34:30,605 --> 00:34:33,965
Speaker 4: You know, my album has been my dream for years

809
00:34:33,965 --> 00:34:36,565
Speaker 4: and it's what I've wanted, and I've worked so hard

810
00:34:36,605 --> 00:34:40,645
Speaker 4: and bought so much, and I had to go through

811
00:34:40,645 --> 00:34:43,645
Speaker 4: so many fricking obstacles that you wouldn't believe to get

812
00:34:43,645 --> 00:34:46,285
Speaker 4: this album to go ahead. So now that it's finally happening,

813
00:34:46,325 --> 00:34:48,005
Speaker 4: I just want to be able to do my everything

814
00:34:48,045 --> 00:34:49,245
Speaker 4: and do as much as I can.

815
00:34:49,965 --> 00:34:52,165
Speaker 2: But I think it's all about balance and like, again,

816
00:34:52,245 --> 00:34:54,285
Speaker 2: my manager's really good at doing that kind of thing.

817
00:34:54,325 --> 00:34:56,685
Speaker 2: And you know when people are like, why isn't she

818
00:34:56,765 --> 00:34:58,365
Speaker 2: doing this, why isn't she doing that? Probaly because I

819
00:34:58,405 --> 00:34:58,845
Speaker 2: don't want to.

820
00:35:00,685 --> 00:35:02,965
Speaker 4: I can't physically do it. I have so much in

821
00:35:03,005 --> 00:35:05,965
Speaker 4: my schedule and we have to prioritize everything. And it's

822
00:35:05,965 --> 00:35:08,325
Speaker 4: not as straightforward as just right, You're going to do this, this, this,

823
00:35:08,485 --> 00:35:10,885
Speaker 4: and that's the plan. We've got to plan everything ahead,

824
00:35:10,885 --> 00:35:12,965
Speaker 4: we've got to schedule everything, we've got to make sure

825
00:35:13,325 --> 00:35:17,405
Speaker 4: I have time to get myself together, and there's a

826
00:35:17,405 --> 00:35:17,965
Speaker 4: lot to do.

827
00:35:18,005 --> 00:35:20,125
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's so exciting that I'm

828
00:35:20,165 --> 00:35:22,925
Speaker 2: just like, I'm so ready for it. Yeah, and then

829
00:35:23,605 --> 00:35:25,405
Speaker 2: just before Christmas as well, so it's great so I

830
00:35:25,405 --> 00:35:29,525
Speaker 2: could work, work, work book, yes, and enjoy Christmas.

831
00:35:30,725 --> 00:35:32,885
Speaker 1: And what is it like being on I guess this

832
00:35:33,005 --> 00:35:35,085
Speaker 1: press tour for the album and also knowing that once

833
00:35:35,125 --> 00:35:37,365
Speaker 1: it comes out, there's going to be all these I

834
00:35:37,365 --> 00:35:40,205
Speaker 1: guess people like reading into different lyrics or people playing it.

835
00:35:40,285 --> 00:35:42,765
Speaker 1: And you've been in the public eye for such a

836
00:35:42,805 --> 00:35:45,445
Speaker 1: long time, do you get excited when you're leading up

837
00:35:45,445 --> 00:35:47,725
Speaker 1: to these periods where you know that people are gonna

838
00:35:47,765 --> 00:35:49,645
Speaker 1: be talking about you even more, or is there like

839
00:35:49,725 --> 00:35:52,925
Speaker 1: a little bit of anxiety of being in the public

840
00:35:52,965 --> 00:35:55,405
Speaker 1: face a little bit more during this time, Like how

841
00:35:55,405 --> 00:35:57,485
Speaker 1: do you balance that side of it?

842
00:35:58,405 --> 00:36:02,005
Speaker 4: I think I'm more just excited, and I think I'm

843
00:36:02,005 --> 00:36:03,885
Speaker 4: more just like at the stage.

844
00:36:03,565 --> 00:36:07,885
Speaker 2: Where I just want my album out so and I

845
00:36:08,125 --> 00:36:11,005
Speaker 2: love it so much. Yeah, and I'm so proud of it,

846
00:36:11,405 --> 00:36:13,565
Speaker 2: and I feel like it's everything I wanted it to be.

847
00:36:14,205 --> 00:36:15,965
Speaker 2: So now all I can do is really soon if

848
00:36:15,965 --> 00:36:17,965
Speaker 2: people like it, they like it. If they don't, they don't,

849
00:36:17,965 --> 00:36:20,245
Speaker 2: that's out of my control. So I think the parts

850
00:36:20,245 --> 00:36:23,485
Speaker 2: that I can control, I've done. Now. I've done my best,

851
00:36:23,845 --> 00:36:26,565
Speaker 2: I've worked my hardest, I've done everything to the top

852
00:36:26,645 --> 00:36:29,685
Speaker 2: standard I possibly could. And now it's just done to

853
00:36:30,365 --> 00:36:32,885
Speaker 2: the public and how they perceived it and how it does.

854
00:36:32,965 --> 00:36:35,565
Speaker 4: But I think because I feel so confident in it,

855
00:36:35,845 --> 00:36:38,765
Speaker 4: I'm just happy as long as.

856
00:36:38,685 --> 00:36:41,565
Speaker 2: My fans hear it and they love it. Yeah, very

857
00:36:41,605 --> 00:36:42,125
Speaker 2: care about.

858
00:36:42,445 --> 00:36:44,285
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really beautiful way to look at it.

859
00:36:44,325 --> 00:36:46,005
Speaker 1: I guess like that's with any piece of art, whether

860
00:36:46,005 --> 00:36:48,085
Speaker 1: it's an album or movie, a book, anything. Once you

861
00:36:48,085 --> 00:36:49,805
Speaker 1: put out into the world, it becomes the property of

862
00:36:49,805 --> 00:36:51,925
Speaker 1: the fans and the people to consume it in the

863
00:36:51,965 --> 00:36:54,805
Speaker 1: way they want to sort of take that. So that's

864
00:36:54,805 --> 00:36:57,245
Speaker 1: a really lovely way to look at it. Speaking of that,

865
00:36:57,325 --> 00:36:59,085
Speaker 1: like living in the public eye and the press too,

866
00:36:59,165 --> 00:37:02,565
Speaker 1: are recently you've talked about like a few different personal things,

867
00:37:02,605 --> 00:37:05,245
Speaker 1: and in the lead up to sharing your pregnancy, talked

868
00:37:05,245 --> 00:37:09,085
Speaker 1: a little bit about suffering pregnancy loss, which I'm very

869
00:37:09,125 --> 00:37:11,085
Speaker 1: so sorry to hear that, and I hope you and

870
00:37:11,165 --> 00:37:14,125
Speaker 1: your family are doing okay. But what I noticed after

871
00:37:14,165 --> 00:37:17,405
Speaker 1: those stories you talked about those stories publicly is just

872
00:37:17,885 --> 00:37:21,045
Speaker 1: the threads of comments underneath from women saying thank you

873
00:37:21,085 --> 00:37:23,845
Speaker 1: for sharing. I've been through this, I'm going through it now.

874
00:37:24,845 --> 00:37:27,805
Speaker 1: Was it a difficult decision to make those private parts

875
00:37:27,805 --> 00:37:30,325
Speaker 1: of your life public? And do you see that outpouring

876
00:37:30,365 --> 00:37:32,805
Speaker 1: from women thanking you for doing it.

877
00:37:33,645 --> 00:37:38,205
Speaker 4: I never intentionally wanted to go public with that.

878
00:37:38,845 --> 00:37:41,245
Speaker 2: I think you know. It happened a few years ago

879
00:37:41,285 --> 00:37:44,805
Speaker 2: and we've kind of kept it as a in our circle.

880
00:37:44,885 --> 00:37:47,605
Speaker 2: So I'm my best friend to my family obviously, Alex

881
00:37:47,645 --> 00:37:50,165
Speaker 2: and I and then I did the podcast with Paul,

882
00:37:50,205 --> 00:37:51,085
Speaker 2: and I think because you.

883
00:37:51,085 --> 00:37:55,445
Speaker 4: Were so like safe and calming, and it's almost like

884
00:37:55,445 --> 00:37:59,605
Speaker 4: a therapy session. But I don't think I was really

885
00:37:59,685 --> 00:38:02,285
Speaker 4: thinking of it like this is the time to go public.

886
00:38:03,165 --> 00:38:06,045
Speaker 2: Just came out. It felt like a natural kind of

887
00:38:06,125 --> 00:38:07,045
Speaker 2: way to do it.

888
00:38:08,285 --> 00:38:10,405
Speaker 4: But I didn't think I would have discussed things like that,

889
00:38:10,525 --> 00:38:12,485
Speaker 4: not because I didn't want to raise awareness for it,

890
00:38:12,525 --> 00:38:15,725
Speaker 4: and not because you know, I know so many people

891
00:38:15,765 --> 00:38:18,965
Speaker 4: have gone through it, like women and friends of mine,

892
00:38:19,205 --> 00:38:19,925
Speaker 4: and it's really hard.

893
00:38:19,925 --> 00:38:21,485
Speaker 2: But the only reason I didn't want to discuss it.

894
00:38:21,525 --> 00:38:24,485
Speaker 4: Is because I found it too difficult to discuss.

895
00:38:24,925 --> 00:38:27,925
Speaker 2: So I thought, I'm just never gonna talk about it.

896
00:38:27,965 --> 00:38:30,045
Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep it in and that be

897
00:38:30,085 --> 00:38:32,405
Speaker 2: that because it's really hard. It's awful.

898
00:38:32,725 --> 00:38:36,245
Speaker 1: So yes, what I did again, I was very sorry

899
00:38:36,285 --> 00:38:38,725
Speaker 1: to hear that, and I can only imagine that going

900
00:38:38,725 --> 00:38:41,165
Speaker 1: through the pain but then also having that threat of

901
00:38:41,165 --> 00:38:43,365
Speaker 1: like the public potentially finding out. I think it's really

902
00:38:43,405 --> 00:38:45,485
Speaker 1: lovely as you were saying that you're in a circle

903
00:38:45,605 --> 00:38:48,205
Speaker 1: new but a word of it was never breathed to

904
00:38:48,245 --> 00:38:49,885
Speaker 1: the public, So it must be nice to know that

905
00:38:49,885 --> 00:38:51,685
Speaker 1: you've always got that in a circle around you who

906
00:38:51,685 --> 00:38:54,525
Speaker 1: will hold tight to any of those stories.

907
00:38:55,085 --> 00:38:58,405
Speaker 2: They are the best, Like nothing gets out of my circle.

908
00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:02,485
Speaker 2: They're very strong to take that to the grove.

909
00:39:02,765 --> 00:39:04,285
Speaker 1: That is good today because I mean, there are many

910
00:39:04,365 --> 00:39:06,765
Speaker 1: celebrities who say they still I mean Pete davidsone was

911
00:39:06,805 --> 00:39:09,245
Speaker 1: saying the other day, and I've heard other celebrities say it.

912
00:39:09,445 --> 00:39:12,685
Speaker 1: They have to sometimes even now, like plant different stories

913
00:39:12,685 --> 00:39:14,965
Speaker 1: within their friendship groups to see who will leak it

914
00:39:15,005 --> 00:39:16,485
Speaker 1: and all that sort of thing. So I think that's

915
00:39:16,525 --> 00:39:18,565
Speaker 1: really lovely to not be on that.

916
00:39:18,605 --> 00:39:21,805
Speaker 4: Oh now, there's none of that for me. Everybody just

917
00:39:21,925 --> 00:39:25,365
Speaker 4: kind of knows. In my inner circle they know everything.

918
00:39:25,725 --> 00:39:29,885
Speaker 2: So luckily I don't have that issue. And yeah, someone

919
00:39:29,885 --> 00:39:31,565
Speaker 2: couldn't be trusted, I wouldn't tell them anything.

920
00:39:32,005 --> 00:39:35,565
Speaker 1: So but that is a lovely way to go through life.

921
00:39:35,765 --> 00:39:38,845
Speaker 1: And So, in anticipation of the album about to come out,

922
00:39:38,885 --> 00:39:40,885
Speaker 1: we've heard some of the singles. A lot of them

923
00:39:40,925 --> 00:39:43,925
Speaker 1: will be under wraps until it's released. What are you

924
00:39:44,005 --> 00:39:47,765
Speaker 1: hoping that people take away from this album? I know

925
00:39:47,765 --> 00:39:49,605
Speaker 1: we've talked through this sort of behind the scenes of

926
00:39:49,605 --> 00:39:51,845
Speaker 1: a few different songs, but what is the kind of

927
00:39:51,885 --> 00:39:54,045
Speaker 1: I guess journey that your hope listeners will go on

928
00:39:54,085 --> 00:39:55,845
Speaker 1: when they sit down and listen to all the songs

929
00:39:55,885 --> 00:39:56,605
Speaker 1: all the way through.

930
00:39:56,845 --> 00:40:00,925
Speaker 2: I'm just in true to say what ones people love them, what.

931
00:40:01,005 --> 00:40:04,685
Speaker 4: People like click with because it's a whole body of

932
00:40:04,725 --> 00:40:07,685
Speaker 4: work and everyone's going to have different opinions.

933
00:40:07,885 --> 00:40:10,845
Speaker 2: So I'm just so intrigued to say what everyone's going

934
00:40:10,885 --> 00:40:12,125
Speaker 2: to think, and like.

935
00:40:12,045 --> 00:40:14,485
Speaker 4: I say, I love it so much, so I'm expecting

936
00:40:14,565 --> 00:40:17,965
Speaker 4: everyone else to be like, yeah, it's a great album,

937
00:40:18,365 --> 00:40:21,005
Speaker 4: but yeah, I think I'm just excited to get it

938
00:40:21,005 --> 00:40:22,765
Speaker 4: out there so I can start having the conversations with

939
00:40:22,845 --> 00:40:25,645
Speaker 4: the fans and DM in them and just getting to

940
00:40:25,645 --> 00:40:27,725
Speaker 4: know the insights of what they think of the thing

941
00:40:27,765 --> 00:40:28,725
Speaker 4: that's the most exciting.

942
00:40:28,925 --> 00:40:32,285
Speaker 1: I think, Oh, you DM with fans, oh yeah all

943
00:40:32,285 --> 00:40:34,885
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, oh wow. I mean someone with such

944
00:40:34,885 --> 00:40:36,925
Speaker 1: a big following, I would find that surprising that you

945
00:40:37,005 --> 00:40:38,645
Speaker 1: do you ever delve in there and just think, Oh God,

946
00:40:38,685 --> 00:40:39,965
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to find in my

947
00:40:39,965 --> 00:40:43,085
Speaker 1: messages or is it usually pretty pretty just like what

948
00:40:43,125 --> 00:40:44,485
Speaker 1: people wanting to discuss the music.

949
00:40:45,325 --> 00:40:47,525
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like May the fans we talk

950
00:40:47,525 --> 00:40:49,045
Speaker 2: about all kinds of stuff we talk about, like the

951
00:40:49,045 --> 00:40:53,405
Speaker 2: summert and prey.

952
00:40:51,725 --> 00:40:55,085
Speaker 1: Wait, which teamy. I need to know Jim Conrad, what

953
00:40:55,125 --> 00:40:57,365
Speaker 1: are you? Yes, no, I am team comrade, But I

954
00:40:57,365 --> 00:40:59,485
Speaker 1: feel sad for Jeremiah. I actually think that she just

955
00:40:59,525 --> 00:41:02,005
Speaker 1: needs to go live in Paris and just not go

956
00:41:02,125 --> 00:41:04,725
Speaker 1: near those boys again because it's been a bit of

957
00:41:04,725 --> 00:41:05,565
Speaker 1: a messy situation.

958
00:41:05,765 --> 00:41:07,965
Speaker 2: I don't want to choose herself. That's cute and all,

959
00:41:08,005 --> 00:41:09,205
Speaker 2: but no, not now.

960
00:41:09,965 --> 00:41:12,925
Speaker 4: I want Connie and Belly to have forever after because

961
00:41:13,085 --> 00:41:13,805
Speaker 4: they've they've.

962
00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:17,245
Speaker 2: Always been day ones. But anyway, me, the fans get

963
00:41:17,245 --> 00:41:19,805
Speaker 2: into this constantly. We talk about all kinds of stuff.

964
00:41:20,125 --> 00:41:22,005
Speaker 2: But yeah, I always talk to my fans as much

965
00:41:22,005 --> 00:41:23,725
Speaker 2: as possible. Really, they're just so lovely.

966
00:41:23,845 --> 00:41:26,925
Speaker 4: So yeah, and that's the thing with social media you

967
00:41:26,965 --> 00:41:28,725
Speaker 4: can kind of have that platform.

968
00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:31,485
Speaker 2: We feel close to them. But yeah, we chat about

969
00:41:31,485 --> 00:41:32,245
Speaker 2: all kinds of crap.

970
00:41:32,525 --> 00:41:34,405
Speaker 1: Oh that's really well. I mean, I'm sure for many

971
00:41:34,405 --> 00:41:37,125
Speaker 1: people that's exciting for them. And having those real life

972
00:41:37,165 --> 00:41:39,885
Speaker 1: fan interactions, like, has there been a particularly memorable one?

973
00:41:39,885 --> 00:41:41,765
Speaker 1: Because I know there's so many times where as we

974
00:41:41,765 --> 00:41:44,165
Speaker 1: were saying before, I've seen fans cry in front of

975
00:41:44,245 --> 00:41:47,445
Speaker 1: you or get very excited. What's your most memorable fan interaction?

976
00:41:47,805 --> 00:41:50,685
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I couldn't say, there's just been so many.

977
00:41:50,965 --> 00:41:53,205
Speaker 4: I don't think it's very rare I've ever had like

978
00:41:53,245 --> 00:41:54,525
Speaker 4: a bad interaction with anyone.

979
00:41:54,925 --> 00:41:57,685
Speaker 1: Oh well, that is lovely, Perry. It has just been

980
00:41:57,765 --> 00:42:00,045
Speaker 1: so glorious to talk to you. And I've listened to

981
00:42:00,045 --> 00:42:02,205
Speaker 1: the album all the way through. It's just really lovely

982
00:42:02,285 --> 00:42:04,365
Speaker 1: from the songs they've sent me, and I'm so excited

983
00:42:04,405 --> 00:42:06,565
Speaker 1: for everyone else to hear it. And yeah, it's just

984
00:42:06,605 --> 00:42:08,485
Speaker 1: always such a joy to watch you on stage and

985
00:42:08,485 --> 00:42:11,045
Speaker 1: a joy to talk to you. Thank you so much

986
00:42:11,085 --> 00:42:12,565
Speaker 1: for your time, so much.

987
00:42:12,725 --> 00:42:13,845
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your day.

988
00:42:18,045 --> 00:42:21,365
Speaker 1: That was Perry Edwards. And what a journey she's been on.

989
00:42:21,725 --> 00:42:26,045
Speaker 1: From girl group success to solo artists, from heartbreak to motherhood,

990
00:42:26,485 --> 00:42:30,325
Speaker 1: from stadium tours to quiet moments at home. Perry has

991
00:42:30,365 --> 00:42:33,925
Speaker 1: lived so many lives already, whether it's through the music

992
00:42:33,965 --> 00:42:37,645
Speaker 1: she's making, the family she's building, all the voice she's

993
00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:41,325
Speaker 1: still learning to trust. Perry is stepping into something that

994
00:42:41,365 --> 00:42:46,605
Speaker 1: feels braver and more personal than ever before. She's honest, grounded,

995
00:42:46,725 --> 00:42:49,885
Speaker 1: and now finally she's starting a new chapter on her

996
00:42:49,925 --> 00:42:54,045
Speaker 1: own terms. And one thing's clear, Perry Edwards is just

997
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Speaker 1: getting started the Executive producer of No Filter is Naeima

998
00:42:58,365 --> 00:43:02,205
Speaker 1: Brown and senior producer is Tina Madlof Audio production by

999
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Speaker 1: Jacob Brown and video editing by Josh Green. I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to No Filter.